WEBVTT - The Giants go into full "sell mode": Silver & JD react to the haul, plus Eric Branch on the latest outside 49er camp 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:04.240 Running here from Berkeley cal Football Media Day. We got 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:07.040 a whole mishmash to get to on a Tuesday, busy, 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:10.960 busy day yesterday on Papa and Silver with the trade deadline, 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:13.360 and it didn't stop because we signed off and then 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:16.480 the Elliott Ramos news became official. On top of that, 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:19.560 Eric Miller got traded as well. So we were kind 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:21.680 of talking at the very end of the show and 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:24.239 I said, JD, I'm a little bit afraid this is 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:29.040 going to be just the status quo Ray Arise Killian 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:32.159 attached in the Arise deal. Tyler Mallley was the night before. 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:33.960 I don't know if we were gonna get much more. 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:37.599 I was incorrect by that. And Buster Posey ends up 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:41.120 flipping six different players at the deadline, a whole bunch 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:43.519 of prospects to get to. And we are off and 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:45.440 running in Berkeley today. So we got to talk a 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:48.600 lot of Niners. We certainly will rehash the trade deadline, 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:50.639 and we got a couple of Berkeley guests coming by 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:52.199 as well, so it should be a nice fun day. 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:54.080 What's going on, man, Yeah, it's great to be out here. 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:59.440 The fog, the malaise starting to burn off out here. Beautiful. 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:03.920 I forg gotten and how beautiful this this stadium is, frankly, 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:06.319 and I've not been here a lot through the years, 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:08.520 even growing up in northern California working in the Bay 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:10.800 Area for for a long time. But this is a 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:12.840 this is a venue, man Like, I'm just kind of 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:16.680 taking away a little bit by by just being here 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:18.479 in the perch and where we're set up, and it's 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:19.720 it's gonna be a lot of fun. 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:21.880 Not a terrible office for the day. And Tyler tim 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:23.880 is one of the best at getting all the logistics 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:24.360 all set up. 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:27.040 He's like, work here semi regularly. That's right, that's right. 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:28.800 In fact, stay tuned for a little bit of news 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:30.559 coming later toward the end of the show. 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:31.759 We'll talk all about that. 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:34.800 Yeah, And the fog is burning off quickly and so 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:37.360 ever since they did the renovations there in the early 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:40.240 mid twenty tens, I mean, this is something that it's 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:41.600 a pretty good view to be out here. 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:43.160 And another reminder, as we see. 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:45.679 A lot of our local media hanging out as players 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:48.320 are on the field, they got the pillars of excellence 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:49.600 up on the scoreboard right now. 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:52.360 Relentless effort, ball excellence, power of unit. 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.800 We'll talk all about that, we'll touch the boy, but 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:57.680 just to recap the end of yesterday, I mean, yeah, 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:00.440 Buster Posey, this is two trade deadlines around now where 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.240 he has gone to selling. And Dwaynekuiper said it well 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:05.880 on the Morning Show. We're not really used todays like 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:08.960 yesterday where Brian Sabian would do a lot of buying. 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:11.120 There would be investment in trying to make something out 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:13.760 of the end of the season, going aggressive to try 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:17.200 to win. Buster Posey was pretty aggressive. On the other end, 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:19.520 we weren't sure Elliott Ramos was going to find a 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:21.840 new home. He's now in New York Yankee. And then, 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:24.200 as we talked about in the weeks leading up to 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:27.200 the trade deadline, if you can flip a bullpen arm 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:29.960 for anybody of value, I think you go and do that. 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:32.440 They decided that Eric Miller was a chance to take 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:33.800 a flyer on Marcelo Meyer. 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:36.560 Yeah, they did it, and we talked about Eric Miller 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:40.120 a lot yesterday and the Giants. I think Buster Posey 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:42.400 would have loved going back to the start of the 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:44.359 season to be in a position to where he could 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:47.360 have added and been among the many teams who did 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:50.160 add But the one thing now we've seen, unfortunately two 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:53.240 years in a row, is the Giants being this position 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:57.799 where the appropriate measure is to sell and to what level? 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:00.680 I don't think anybody fully knew, but I think if 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:04.560 you took twenty twenty five Giants trade deadline as a 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:08.440 primer for the twenty twenty six Giants trade deadline, you 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:11.680 knew that at a minimum, everybody on an expiring deal 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:15.240 was probably going to be moved. And they Giants were 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:19.120 able to check those boxes relatively early in the morning 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:22.760 and heading toward the afternoon, which left them some time 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:25.079 to be able to determine, all right, do you really 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:28.800 want to give up Eric Miller for Meyer? Do you 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:31.760 and a flyer on somebody that was at one point 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:34.920 a top top prospect in the majors and the number 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:37.320 four overall pick in the draft? The answer is I 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:39.680 think yes, like that makes a lot of sense to 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:43.040 take that level of flyer. And then you had some 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:46.320 time to sort through what could you get from the 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:49.880 Yankees for a right handed bat in Elliott Ramos that 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:53.800 still has a couple of years left of team control, 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:57.800 and how do you continue to bolster the pitching depth 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:00.000 and the pitching in the minor leagues to set up 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:05.160 what could very well be a formidable giant staff toward 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:07.880 the back end of say twenty twenty eight and twenty 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:09.240 twenty nine and beyond. 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:12.560 Well, just to recap it all, yesterday, Tyler Mallley went 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:14.520 to the Braves. That was his Sunday night news. They 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:17.480 got Anthony Molina, right handed pitcher, just talked about Eric 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:20.240 Miller to the Red Sox, Marcelo Meyer, Robbie Ray. That 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:22.640 happened during our show goes to the Padres and they 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:25.280 got a couple of prospects in return, right handed pitcher 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:29.040 Miguel Mendez and then the seventeen year old shortstop prospect 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:32.400 Jony al Hernandez in the Luisa Rise deal with Caleb 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:34.440 Killy and attached to it. They got a reliever from 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:37.520 Marty Jaiyere and then probably along with Marcelo Meyer, the 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:40.800 other highly touted prospect that now is number two in 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:44.839 pitching behind Jackson Flora in the farm system. That's Ramon Marquez, 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:47.080 the rity that they feel really good about. And then 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:50.200 with Elliott Ramos, it was a six foot seven lefty 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:54.440 Henry Lalaine. And then of course Jeff Kent's son, Kayden Kent. 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:57.000 It's funny Jeff Kent. They played the audio on the 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:59.039 Morning Show How he was on after the Hall of 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:02.159 Fame induction, talked about having still a little bit of 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:04.400 love there for the Yankees can't go full giant. 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:05.560 Well now that's changed. 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:07.600 And he also said, if he's sitting two forty in 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:08.880 the miners, I'm gonna kill him. 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:12.520 Yeah, forget about the Yankees. Now he's a Giant. And 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:15.120 so that that was another cool part of the way 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:17.880 everything wound up playing out. But I think the big 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:20.680 thing that stands out to me as you look through 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:23.280 a lot of these deals, and I won't run through 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:27.640 all of them because you just did, but Ramon Marquez 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:32.599 fourth ranked prospect in terms of the Phillies, you look 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:35.640 at at a lot of these guys, your fourth ranked prospect, 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:39.080 one of the guys they get from the Padres, ninth 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:42.440 ranked prospect. The other player that they get from the 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:46.720 Padres that the seventeen year old infielder Hernandez, and then 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:50.200 you've got Lelane, fifth ranked prospect. It's just it's the 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:54.440 high it's the high numbers. It feels as if the Giants, 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:57.240 at least on paper, at least on paper, and you know, 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:01.400 on paper doesn't always matter. We have those discussions with 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:03.920 the forty nine ers draft, right, the four inch draft 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:09.440 on paper for the experts always looks less than they 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:12.119 think it is internally. Right, Well, the Giants are winning 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:14.160 a lot of They're winning a lot of people over 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:17.960 on paper here with the prospects that they've acquired, to 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:21.640 what level do they turn into the next generation of 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:25.039 great Giants? We shall see. But at this point all 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:29.240 you can do is deal with what's in front of you, 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:32.479 and with the Giants having such a miserably disappointing season, 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:35.800 it's the right course of action to pivot toward the 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:39.839 future to the greatest extent that you're comfortable with. I 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:41.840 think we can debate, and today is probably going to 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.640 be the last day. Should they have gone farther? Jung 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:48.159 Hulee Logan Web two of ironically the Stars from last 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:53.960 night's August third win against the Rangers in Arlington would 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:55.440 tell you, all right, maybe you want to keep those 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:59.000 guys around a little bit. But I think they handled 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:03.160 a really difficult situation probably as best as they can. 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:05.400 And now time will tell as to whether or not 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.520 they acquired the right players, but moving on from the 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:10.880 players they chose to move on from. We could debate 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.680 Elliott Ramos a little bit, but everybody else it was 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:15.800 kind of a no brainer. I'm also gonna make fun 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.400 of myself as we get going on a Tuesday, because 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:20.080 how else would I want to start the show? 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:22.040 Look, the young guy loves the young guy. I know 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:24.520 everyone's gonna say, oh my god. Silver freaked out every 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:27.200 time Eldridge wasn't in the lineup because they wanted to. 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:29.080 I want to see him as much as possible. 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:32.320 Yesterday I was really glad to see Bryce Eldridge not 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:32.880 in the lineup. 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:34.880 I just wanted him to have a day off. 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:37.280 But man, looking at that lineup, I was like, whoa, 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:39.440 that's the other side of the trade deadline. 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:41.280 Like you knew they were gonna sell, you knew they 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:42.160 had to do all that. 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:44.520 But then just looking at the lineup when it finally 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:46.760 came out, I was like, oh, man, maybe JD would 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:48.120 have a field day with this one if we were 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:48.560 on the show. 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:51.920 Yeah, it's funny you had that reaction about Eldridge. I 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:54.440 actually had the opposite reaction. I was like, why would 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:58.520 today be the day I really that was my initial reaction. 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:00.840 To me, it makes no sense the day in which 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:05.560 the season is in many ways formally over right. I mean, 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.200 even though I think you could make the case that 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:10.080 it has been for two to three months at this point. 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:14.760 So I just I was, yeah, to your point, you 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.280 look at that lineup, But if Chung Houlei's gonna go 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:21.080 double dong and Logan Webb's gonna throw shut out ball, 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:24.560 doesn't matter. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:27.320 My Heidie's mom texted me in the ninth because the 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:29.360 game was national. She goes, Hey, the Giants gonna hold 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:32.080 onto this lead, And I was like, I mean theoretically, yes, 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:35.400 I also don't know anything about this bullpen right now. 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:36.880 And then they did. They did. 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:38.439 They only allowed one and that's because they won the 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:41.599 challenge right before that homer. So look, I'm getting a 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:43.360 lot of reaction, and this is where I want to 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:45.480 open it up at eight to eight K and b are. Yeah, 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:47.800 we're still live in Berkeley. Yeah, we're still rehashing the 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:51.280 Giants trade deadline. Did the Giants do enough? And how 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:54.559 satisfied are you? Because I'm gonna stop shy of the 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:58.000 notion of Buster Posey and the Giants cooked yesterday, Like 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:00.319 I was seeing some of that discourse, and we just 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:03.320 don't know. Because the timeline of the prospects that they 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:05.720 ended up taking back, we're probably not going to have 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:06.880 those answers on paper. 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:08.280 He did, though, or at least two years. 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.760 Sure, Sure, I would love to look back and say 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:13.640 that was a really effective day. What I can say 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:17.320 here on August fourth of twenty twenty six is that 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:19.760 Buster Posey did the right thing and wasn't living in 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:22.559 some kind of fantasy land of what the Giants might 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:25.280 be and how close they were and maybe there was 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.480 some variability of bad luck and oh if we just 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:30.000 had a closer, we'd be a team that's a playoff team. 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:32.760 Like there was no operation under the premise that the 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:36.360 Giants were at all close to being a contender. And 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:38.720 for that reason, Buster Posey I think deserves credit for 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:40.319 how he's handled both trade deadlines. 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:44.200 Yeah, he did the minimum I think in both years 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:47.840 of what's appropriate considering the circumstances. And it can't be 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:51.880 easy for Buster Posey because again, both of these trade 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:56.120 deadlines have been indicators that teams that he's put together 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:59.840 have failed, at least up until the point where you 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:03.040 each you know, August in the first two thirds of 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:06.560 the season. So as difficult a pill as that probably 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.560 is for him to swallow, you gotta pivot and you 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:13.360 gotta do what's right. And I think again we'll see 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:16.800 to what level the guys that the Giants were able 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:21.240 to acquire wind up being the next generation, as I've said, 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:26.640 of great Giants. But for now, all you can do 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:30.080 is put yourself in position to where you're acquiring these 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:31.960 guys and now you've got to look to develop them 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.200 and see if they can come up and help you 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:36.680 come maybe twenty twenty eight for a lot of them, 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.040 or some of them, twenty twenty nine to twenty thirty 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.560 for most of them, and maybe that coincides with a 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:44.240 lot of the other guys that are already in your 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:47.240 minor league system or that you drafted going back to 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:50.880 the middle of July, and then you're cooking. Now you 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:52.880 still got to deal with the now, you still got 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:54.640 to deal with And I think that's in part why 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:57.760 the Giants didn't trade Logan Web and didn't trade Junghu 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.160 Lee is because and no, I'm not going to go 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:04.640 two timelines, but they wanted to have the ability to 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:08.200 try to put together a team that can compete in 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.640 twenty seven and try to put together maybe a team 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:13.839 that can compete in twenty twenty eight while they're developing 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:16.320 all of these guys in the minor league system that 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:18.679 they project to come up at some point towards the 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:20.440 back end maybe of twenty eight and beyond. 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:23.199 And it's just daunting looking at the pitching rotation because 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:26.080 Logan Webb is your ace pitched like one yesterday went 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:28.440 the six shoutout innings and then today you're like, oh, 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:29.280 it's gonna be Tidwell. 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:31.080 Who's now gonna be a mainstay down the stretch. 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.320 So they did the right thing by it, but yeah, 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:35.840 it's gonna be a lot of piecemealing together and for 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.360 what's been a challenging year for a first year manager, 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:40.959 and Tony Vizello now gets to plug and play a 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:42.880 little bit more pieces. Yeah, And you know what's interesting 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.480 too is you know everybody and we've done it, everybody 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:49.640 assumes that it's gonna be worse because on paper, again 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:53.320 there's less talent, but you know what, maybe it's not 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:56.040 like and if it is, how much And if I 0:11:56.040 --> 0:12:00.400 mean if it is, who cares. Honestly, that's just keeping 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:03.320 it a buck if it is worse. But at the 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:07.200 same time, maybe it's not as bad, and maybe you 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:09.560 do find a couple of guys that can help you. 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:12.120 Maybe you do. I mean, the Giant's best stretch of 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:15.560 baseball over the last two years has been the stretch 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:18.560 of baseball that wasn't supposed to be the best stretch, 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:21.240 or maybe the stretch which they had the least amount 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:24.000 of talent top to bottom on their roster. So you 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.480 never know when it's all said and done. 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:28.559 All right, eight O KNBR is your number. We can 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:30.520 still take calls. We got the Golden sat Lumber and 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:32.280 show room text line. We got a lot of the 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:34.520 mids hanging out in the YouTube chat. We still got 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:37.560 Tim back in the studio making this all happen. Josh 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:39.680 Shepherd hanging out here, making sure that we stay on 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:42.320 the air. We're in good hands another Birds by the way, 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:45.440 among other things. Always in good hands in Berkeley, California, 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:48.760 Giants trade deadline. Eightaway canbr. I'll tease the guest list 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:50.240 when we come on back on these Sports Leader. 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:20.839 This is poplay in silver on knbr's a Z Sports Leader. 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:27.560 We are live in Berkeley at Cal Football Media Day. 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:30.240 We'll be talking all about that later in the show. 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:32.680 We also got some good Niners to get to with 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.319 the player's day off. Of course, the Giants fall out 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:38.240 of the trade deadline is where we're starting today. Few 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:41.000 different things because I'm showing Tim how responsible I am 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:43.160 even if I'm away from the studio. 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And it's a Tuesday, so 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:30.680 that means we will catch up with Susan Slusser, who 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:33.880 will join us at eleven fifty, fresh off of her 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:36.840 handling of all the chaos of yesterday. And because we 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:38.760 are in Berkeley, we got to get a couple of 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:43.480 the best Toash Lapoi thirty fifth Travers family, head football 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:47.040 coach and program history and former player himself right here 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.480 in the stadium coming by at twelve thirty, and then 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:54.000 the talented sophomore left handed quarterback Jaron Kiave Sanga Pola 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:56.880 tell we'll be coming by right around one. So we 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:59.560 got a busy day and I'm feeling fantastic about it. 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:02.240 To continue where we left off at the end of 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:05.920 last segment, JD. It was really interesting. We got so 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:10.040 many great local media who are much smarter than definitely myself. 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:12.960 And what I kept seeing as a common theme last 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:15.200 night in the aftermath of the trade deadline is people 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:18.720 saying the Giants' ownership will never call it a rebuild. 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.520 They're never gonna brand it as a rebuild. But Buster 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:25.440 Posey and his action said otherwise, I don't know if 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:29.320 I necessarily agreed with that statement. Now, am I glad 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:32.440 that he went beyond just trading Ray and Arise and 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:35.200 what we all expected? Yes, I am. I don't think 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.920 Buster Posey had to trade Elliot Ramos. He didn't have 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:41.000 to take the risk on Marcelo Meyer. Those are moves 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:44.280 that I admire. But with the timeline of the prospects 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:46.480 that came back, just because we're looking at say maybe 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:49.480 more twenty twenty eight twenty twenty nine. If it truly 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:52.160 was going to be a rebuild, well then Jung hou 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:54.280 Lee and Logan Webb probably would have been dealt as well. 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:56.480 And I understand there's the element of what you brought 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:59.080 up of hey not to two timeline this thing, but 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:00.640 you do got to figure out how you could be 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:03.400 competitive in the meantime as you look to rebuild with 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:04.440 the farm system. 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:05.680 Well, you at least have to sell that. You got 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:06.080 to sell that. 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:07.880 I'm not going to go as far as to call 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:11.120 it a rebuild, but it definitely was a greater overhaul 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:12.720 than I would have anticipated. 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:17.440 Yeah, they are, they are rebuilding for that other time, 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.600 that twenty eight twenty nine timeline, But you also have 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:21.160 to look at where you are in the calendar. I mean, 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:25.040 twenty twenty six essentially is over barring some kind of 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:30.360 all time miracle level run that isn't going to happen. 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:34.800 So then you've got the twenty twenty seven question marks 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:37.000 as it relates to just how much of a baseball 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:38.960 season is they're going to be. And now you start 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:41.200 to think, all right, some of these players in the 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:43.560 Giant system will start to be coming up as early 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:47.920 as two thousand and twenty eight, and then beyond as 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.160 you get, you know, into twenty twenty nine, So it's 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:55.240 it's not really that long. And so I think that's 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:57.840 where you I agree with you that it doesn't feel 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:00.600 like it's a rebuild because the gap that they're trying 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:03.320 to bridge is what are we talking about? A season 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:05.760 and a half or maybe half a season doesn't even 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:11.679 happen next year. So to me, it's they're rebuilding, but 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:15.919 they're also trying to keep appearances up is probably the 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.720 best way to put it for twenty twenty seven. If 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:22.520 there is a meaningful twenty twenty seven to be played 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:26.120 across Major League baseball. I also think as much as 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:29.359 I was along the lines of hey, I would have 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:31.400 looked to have moved Logan web I would have gone 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:35.000 full bore. I think you could have turbocharged even what 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:38.640 you did accomplish yesterday to another level if you would 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:42.360 look to ship him to a contender with the remainder 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:45.399 of this year plus two more on his contract. I 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:48.800 think with jung Ulee having the opt out after twenty 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:51.280 twenty seven, you could make the case that maybe he 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:53.800 should have been the guy that the Giants were more 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:56.920 app to trade right now instead of say maybe in 0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:59.439 Elliott Ramos. But I think the flip side of that 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:05.440 conversation is not completely in fairness to the Giants about 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:09.280 keeping appearances up for twenty twenty seven, and it's also 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:13.400 somewhat And this is where I do believe them, even 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:17.000 if I don't agree with them, Like they do want 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:19.400 someone with the skill set of like Jung who lead 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:23.440 the player fits the type of offense that the Giants 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:27.040 want to have, So you want to keep somebody around 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:32.159 that fits that identity. Logan Webb does fit the identity 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:35.679 of what the Giants want their pitching staff to look like. 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:39.400 And so I understand why you would want maybe from 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:42.880 that standpoint where Elliott Ramos in fairness, even with years 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:45.240 left on his deal, even though he's a productive hitter 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:47.920 in a different way than Jung Hulee when you look 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:51.879 at his overall game and the defensive deficiencies and the 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:54.120 fact that he has, at least for this year, become 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:57.159 somebody that's probably in a lot of team's eyes, more 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:01.200 of a platoon player than an everyday player, maybe somebody 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:03.879 that's better suited for a different ballpark as well to 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:07.200 have some of the power numbers truly come to fruition. 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:11.439 So he in essence, I think the Giants made the 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:15.160 determination doesn't fit the mold for what they want this 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:17.800 next era to look like, or that they already have. 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:21.639 You know, guys that are maybe more the bopper less 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:27.160 defense type, you know in their everyday concoction right at 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:32.679 different positions, Rafael Devers and Bryce Eldridge highlighting it among 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:35.920 those players, so I can understand where, yes, I would 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:38.960 have gone all in. I think they might have wound 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:41.480 up better for it in twenty eight and twenty nine 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:44.240 and beyond, at the expense of how good are you 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:46.199 really going to be next year? How much of a 0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:48.040