WEBVTT - Giants Lose 2-1, Drop Two of Three to the Astros

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, the funds over.

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<v Speaker 2>They've done the dirty work of the radio business. Anybody

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<v Speaker 2>messes this thing up to me tonight, it's true engineering, board,

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<v Speaker 2>operating and producing. Not only are you fired, your life

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<v Speaker 2>is old and now they have the microphone.

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<v Speaker 1>What could go wrong? Nobody messes up?

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<v Speaker 2>Understand me, don't mess up. Adam Copeland.

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<v Speaker 3>You wanted some sort of like hard hitting Bob Lee journalism.

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<v Speaker 3>He came to the wrong place. Derek Papa, Oh boy, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>feel it's getting It's a dirty job, but someone's got

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<v Speaker 3>to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Ridiculous, completely ridiculous. Welcome to dirty work. A and B

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<v Speaker 2>are one, O, four, five and six eighty the Sports Leader.

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<v Speaker 3>It's dirty work on a Wednesday afternoon, Adam Copeland Deep

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<v Speaker 3>Pop with the up life from the broadcast booth in

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<v Speaker 1>Sence dropped two of three to.

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<v Speaker 3>The Houston Astros in a game where man hold on

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<v Speaker 3>to a one nothing lead late. Didn't feel great and

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<v Speaker 3>then things go go off the hinges there in the

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<v Speaker 3>in the seventh inning, Giants end up losing it late

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<v Speaker 3>in this ballgame, drop it two to one. As Steven Oker,

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<v Speaker 3>the former Giant, ends up getting the w in this game. Deepop,

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<v Speaker 3>what's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>Bro?

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing?

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<v Speaker 4>Man?

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<v Speaker 1>On the eve of the first forty nine.

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<v Speaker 3>Or previow there we go because because you know what

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<v Speaker 3>that's I said, By the way, I watched damn near

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<v Speaker 3>the entire game with our guy jumping Johnny Lund.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sitting together.

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<v Speaker 1>It was fun.

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<v Speaker 5>Dude.

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<v Speaker 3>I came out to the to the patio early, got

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<v Speaker 3>to see some John. I want to see how he'd

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<v Speaker 3>handle the diamond notes comparison to you one of them

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<v Speaker 3>on Friday. I was like, we'll see, We'll see how

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<v Speaker 3>Derek does relative to John.

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<v Speaker 6>They will not be award winning diamondotes. They will be

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<v Speaker 6>the Razzies of Domino of diamond ootes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Razzy diamond notes. And then giants read it will

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<v Speaker 2>be all over it. He had losers.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine if giants read it was all over

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<v Speaker 1>diamond notes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh they are, I've I've seen it before. Stop better

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<v Speaker 2>than their life. They are not all over diamond notes.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah they are because as I said to you,

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<v Speaker 3>as you guys know, when we do diamond notes, there's

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<v Speaker 3>all sorts of sponsors. We got to get to your

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<v Speaker 3>starting pitchers, or who's hot you're hitting the lumber your

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<v Speaker 3>player at a bank on. My favorite is the weather

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<v Speaker 3>report because that's the one that gets me out of

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<v Speaker 3>a time jam.

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<v Speaker 2>Put your head out the window.

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<v Speaker 3>What people don't know, Derek, is that and you know this,

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<v Speaker 3>But what people don't know is that diamond notes are

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<v Speaker 3>all about sponsors. It's all about can you hit every

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<v Speaker 3>sponsor you need to?

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<v Speaker 1>And what people don't know, that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>What people who know about diamond notes is you have

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<v Speaker 3>to finish all ten of the sponsors within a certain

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<v Speaker 3>amount of time, by an exact second.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think people know listening know this.

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<v Speaker 3>So sometimes I do it like yesterday, you heard me

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<v Speaker 3>do it pretty casual, laid back. I'm giving you notes,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm giving you stats. We're talking about the scores. Then

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<v Speaker 3>two days ago there was a game where we did

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<v Speaker 3>the talk back.

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<v Speaker 1>We had John it all.

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<v Speaker 2>It depends on the talk back.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, By the way, if John Texas long,

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<v Speaker 3>more power to him.

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<v Speaker 1>I love John, Love John Miller. I love what he's

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<v Speaker 1>got to say.

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<v Speaker 3>I want you talk more than I want you or

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing this job because I like hearing John.

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<v Speaker 1>Miller of course of course, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, he was talking to us about like a Red

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<v Speaker 3>Sox game that was going on against against Toronto up

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<v Speaker 3>in Toronto, and he was waxing poetic and doing doing

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<v Speaker 3>his John Miller bit, and I was loving pain.

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<v Speaker 1>But then we get out of the John Miller talk.

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<v Speaker 3>Back, you and I and I'm like, oh boy, I

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<v Speaker 3>got to hit ten sponsors in like three and a

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<v Speaker 3>half minutes with two minutes in between as a commercial break,

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<v Speaker 3>so people don't know we've got to hit that as

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<v Speaker 3>an exact second. So to me, the weather report, that's

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<v Speaker 3>the one that bails us out.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the one where I say, weather Report, we're a jacket.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the ball. What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>There's yea were doing? But beautiful day at the yard today.

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<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately the Giants don't pull this one out. I do

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<v Speaker 3>want to note real quick because we are going to

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<v Speaker 3>talk more football. We're going to talk more about where

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<v Speaker 3>we're going forward because and I do think there's a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a release for Giants baseball, Like there's a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a weight off your shoulders. Uh, Like do

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<v Speaker 3>you remember do you remember when Tom got let go?

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<v Speaker 2>Every day?

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<v Speaker 1>How what makes you think of it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, gigantic shoes to film.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you remember though, that you and I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>had that moment where we talked to each other and

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<v Speaker 3>we're like, hey, man, like it's sort of it's there's

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<v Speaker 3>something about like the ass screw it mentality of it, like, ah,

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<v Speaker 3>if he's going, then anybody's going, Like there's something week too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was saying Tom because I didn't want to like

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<v Speaker 3>hit it on the nose, you know, but there's something

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<v Speaker 3>freeing about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think you and I had talked about it

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<v Speaker 3>for a couple of months where I said, look, we

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<v Speaker 3>knew this thing was going bad. We kept talking about

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<v Speaker 3>is this the low water mark? Is this rock bottom? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not really important anymore. And I know we mentioned

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<v Speaker 3>it yesterday they'd fallen twenty one below. I guess they're

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<v Speaker 3>twenty one below again after winning.

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<v Speaker 2>Last Is this rock bottom?

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<v Speaker 1>Copes? It doesn't really matter.

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<v Speaker 3>It does because it's almost unfair at this juncture to

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<v Speaker 3>gauge or to judge any GM President of Baseball managerial

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<v Speaker 3>move like I'd like to see Tony Vitello use this

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<v Speaker 3>time in the same way that we see the younger

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<v Speaker 3>players getting opportunity to play, not that you need to

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<v Speaker 3>just try new things out, but give guys an opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>to go longer than maybe they have in the month

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<v Speaker 3>of May or in the month.

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<v Speaker 1>Of June, right when maybe you're in the heart of

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<v Speaker 1>the or in the thick of things.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to see guys work through some things you

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<v Speaker 3>haven't things that you haven't seen them do before. I

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<v Speaker 3>want to see guys in situations you haven't seen him

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<v Speaker 3>in before. I don't know if you've noticed we've seen

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<v Speaker 3>a lot more of Bryce Eldridge at first base. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's almost like, yeah, why not now at the time,

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<v Speaker 3>run that guy out there, let them play, let them

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<v Speaker 3>make the mistakes they need to make. I felt that

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<v Speaker 3>way today about Adrian Hauser, a guy who lost his

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<v Speaker 3>job to go to the bullpen, a guy the one

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<v Speaker 3>of the two guys the Giants signed this offseason, between

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<v Speaker 3>he and Tyler Maalley, who was given a two year contract.

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<v Speaker 3>So you and I keep talking about, well, next year,

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<v Speaker 3>next year, next year, and I said, you know, they've

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<v Speaker 3>got Logan webb they traded Robbie Ray. We thought maybe

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<v Speaker 3>they'd have Trevor McDonald. They've got Landing groupe. But I

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<v Speaker 3>think now looking at Adrian Hauser like they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>go into next year with the plan for him to

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<v Speaker 3>be one of the starters, whether it's the two, whether

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<v Speaker 3>it's the three. I don't love the depth of that rotation.

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<v Speaker 3>Even if he's the two or the three. I think

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<v Speaker 3>he tracks more as a four or a five. But

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<v Speaker 3>what I do love is his performance is out of

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<v Speaker 3>the bullpen, and he's the guy who I think is

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<v Speaker 3>more comfortable now than he was early in the season,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's pitched up with a little bit of f

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<v Speaker 3>you you know what I mean, which is the way

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<v Speaker 3>you should go after it. Nothing to lose, put it

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<v Speaker 3>all on the table, pitch inside. You hit a guy,

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<v Speaker 3>let's go after him and try to get him in

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<v Speaker 3>places that he's uncomfortable. I think that works in the

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<v Speaker 3>same way for young players as it does for veterans

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<v Speaker 3>who are gonna be here beyond this season. And I

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<v Speaker 3>appreciate the way he's gone about it, and it makes

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<v Speaker 3>me look forward a bit to more of the depth

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<v Speaker 3>of what this rotation could be over the offseason into

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<v Speaker 3>next season.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, if we have a season. We talked to it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was at Morosi. Last week we talked to yes

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<v Speaker 1>It said he believed. He's an optimist.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, I believe we're playing baseball by May or

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<v Speaker 3>by the end of May. And I'm like, I Honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>to me, that was a little bit of a shock.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, man, that's the optimistic part of it. That's

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<v Speaker 3>tough that we're talking about missing a month.

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<v Speaker 6>Well that's what every national guy has said so far,

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<v Speaker 6>which is okay, okay, that's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>But in trying to find bridespots, it's almost it's almost

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<v Speaker 3>more relaxing and more enjoyable to go to a ball

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<v Speaker 3>game like this today, where there's just kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>you know, stress is off. Let's see what else we have.

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<v Speaker 3>The Giants today by Baseball America, and I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to say Baseball America means more than any other entity,

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<v Speaker 3>but in terms of covering prospects and raiding minor league systems,

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<v Speaker 3>they have been the standard of that prior to ESPN,

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<v Speaker 3>prior to MLB dot Com and all these other analysts

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<v Speaker 3>who put out what their rankings are. And as of today,

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<v Speaker 3>following the trade deadline, the Giants rank, according to Baseball

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<v Speaker 3>America as the number four organization in terms of minor

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<v Speaker 3>league system in all of baseball, and that to me

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<v Speaker 3>in the month of August, where you've gone through the

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<v Speaker 3>trade deadline, you know where the team stands. That makes

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<v Speaker 3>it a bit easier to sort of digest a game

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<v Speaker 3>like this because I want to see guys in certain situations.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see how they execute. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>see how.

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<v Speaker 3>They perform, and it makes the endgame or the results

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<v Speaker 3>of the game itself almost secondary to what this season

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<v Speaker 3>or the remainder of this season means for the team

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<v Speaker 3>going forward. And it's my first game being here like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't here last night or the night before, so

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<v Speaker 3>first time since the deadline. Then I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>this is what it's going to be. And I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 3>okay with that because we know what the goal of

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<v Speaker 3>the team is. It's evaluate and it moved forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean that should be the mentality of every fit

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<v Speaker 6>at this point, where I've said it for the longest time,

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<v Speaker 6>there's certain points of the season where Buster Posey goes

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<v Speaker 6>into evaluation mode and that's what every fan should do

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<v Speaker 6>the rest of the way. Where yes, last night, great

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<v Speaker 6>to see Bryce Elidridge Haite a home run four hundred

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<v Speaker 6>and twenty three feet. It's great to see Carson Wisdon

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<v Speaker 6>and have that performance. It's not good to see Willia

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<v Speaker 6>domis just I don't know what the hell that was

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<v Speaker 6>that with the double play today and in the seventh

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<v Speaker 6>inning there.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, I mean, I was going to say, he's

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<v Speaker 3>got something going on with his back and uh. And

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<v Speaker 3>I was sitting in the in the stands at that point,

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<v Speaker 3>and my initial thought was I was with Lunda.

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<v Speaker 1>I said he didn't forget how many outs there were,

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<v Speaker 1>did he?

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<v Speaker 2>And clearly before yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was kind of the initial thought. Clearly that

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<v Speaker 1>was not the situation.

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<v Speaker 3>He's dealing with the health issue with his back, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's why he didn't sling it the second which means

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<v Speaker 3>he didn't sling at the first base excuse me, Sabbly

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<v Speaker 3>tried to fire it but didn't have any urgency there.

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<v Speaker 3>And the injuries are concerning. But it seemingly it was

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<v Speaker 3>a backfing more than it was a mental era and

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's just part of the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is part of the game.

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<v Speaker 6>But then Victor Barracota and left field drops the ball,

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<v Speaker 6>so not great.

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<v Speaker 2>But then again, like, as John Lunz said the.

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<v Speaker 6>Other day, I thought he hit it on the head

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<v Speaker 6>where it's not about wins and losses anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about individuals.

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<v Speaker 6>And it sucks that a lot of these guys are

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<v Speaker 6>injured right now, Casey Schmidt, Daniel Sussex, Trevor McDonald's wait

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<v Speaker 6>for those guys to come back. But yeah, it really

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<v Speaker 6>is just evaluation mode as a fan and also cherishing

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<v Speaker 6>the memories of my Kruco. That's the most important thing

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<v Speaker 6>to me the rest of the way. So I know

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<v Speaker 6>some fans will be like, screw that. You still got

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<v Speaker 6>to win every game, and I'm sure Tony Vaitelo has

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<v Speaker 6>some of that mentality, But.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, did you hit him the other night, Derek Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Monday night, one day night, there.

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<v Speaker 3>Was there was a question, excuse me, a question about

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<v Speaker 3>why he pulled Tidwell when he did, Yeah, play Tidwell

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<v Speaker 3>and he'd been pitching really well. That slur of is

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<v Speaker 3>nasty And again, love what I'm seeing from him. But

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<v Speaker 3>for me, it's always about what is the second time

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<v Speaker 3>through the league. Look Like in football, you can be like, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>that quarterback's getting it, he's building, he's game. Same as

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<v Speaker 3>in basketball, not that you don't have, you know, books

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<v Speaker 3>that teams pick up on you. But it's different in

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<v Speaker 3>baseball where you hit it, situationally, what pitchers you're swinging at,

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<v Speaker 3>what you really struggle at. It's a little bit different

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of how they view you because it's pitcher

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<v Speaker 3>by pitcher trying to attack a different guy you're not

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<v Speaker 3>In basketball, you're seeing different defenders every night, but that

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<v Speaker 3>team has only got, you know, three guards that are

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<v Speaker 3>going to go up against you. Right baseball, you might

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<v Speaker 3>see eight different pitchers in one series, versus in basketball,

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<v Speaker 3>in a series, you're gonna see the same starting five

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<v Speaker 3>almost every single night.

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<v Speaker 1>So I totally understand all that.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's also about the adjustments you make to the adjustment,

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<v Speaker 3>and we haven't seen a lot of that from a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of these guys. So when Tidwall got pulled out

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<v Speaker 3>of the game Monday night, Vaytella was asked after the game,

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<v Speaker 3>why didn't you leave him in to let him get

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<v Speaker 3>through that jam? And he said, we're trying to win

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<v Speaker 3>ball games, And I was like, what is that? Like, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's important, and for him it probably means something different

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<v Speaker 3>than it does to us, of course, right, like we're

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<v Speaker 3>willing to accept where we are in the season. He's

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<v Speaker 3>the guy who's in his first year as a manager.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, I'm not trying to lose games, and I

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<v Speaker 3>do you do an extent appreciate that. I also think

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<v Speaker 3>that the victory again and the winning means something, but

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<v Speaker 3>winning how is important as well.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean he's dictated by wins and losses, so

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<v Speaker 6>I totally understand from his standpoint.

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<v Speaker 2>But he knows the bigger picture here.

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<v Speaker 6>He knows what Buster Posey and Zack Manasin are doing

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<v Speaker 6>behind the scenes. He just has to says he just

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<v Speaker 6>has to say that to the media right now. So yes,

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<v Speaker 6>despite what happens, he doesn't really have a say in

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<v Speaker 6>what goes on in the front office.

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<v Speaker 2>So he just rolls with the punches.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, we're gonna trade away Elliott Ramos and Luisa Rise

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<v Speaker 6>and Robbie Ray and all these guys, and I have

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<v Speaker 6>to find a way to win games. Look, sure they're

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<v Speaker 6>more of a plan in the off season. If there

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<v Speaker 6>is there will be an off season. But we'll see

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<v Speaker 6>if there's a season. But yeah, I think at this

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<v Speaker 6>point it's evaluation mode for fans as well. Who do

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<v Speaker 6>you like who you don't like and let's see what

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<v Speaker 6>happens in the off season.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, who do you like as a fan?

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny, right because you can see something like let

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<v Speaker 3>me ask you, just me and you, dude fifty thousand,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, you emia nobody else listening in, Like, how

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<v Speaker 3>do you as a fan? You're a fan, I'm a fan.

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<v Speaker 3>We're guys who've never played pro sports.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you think.

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<v Speaker 3>Fans view the game relative to whether or not they're

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<v Speaker 3>right or wrong about what it is they're seeing?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, well, go ahead. You know that's where you and

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<v Speaker 6>I step in and tell them how wrong they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, you would answer this one, bro, well what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think?

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<v Speaker 3>Cause, like, dude, I like, there's a great scene and

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<v Speaker 3>I know people hate on it that movie Fever Pitch

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<v Speaker 3>for Jimmy Fallon.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually never seen it yet.

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<v Speaker 3>It's to me, I don't hate it. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>it's a great baseball movie. But there are scenes in

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<v Speaker 3>it that make me laugh. And there's one where he's okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so he's like a middle school teacher. He's talking to

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<v Speaker 3>Drew berrymore and they've been dating throughout the off season. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's trying to tell her, like, a baseball season

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<v Speaker 3>is coming, and you don't know who I am when

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<v Speaker 3>baseball starts, right, So he goes. She invites him to

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<v Speaker 3>like go to a birthday thing for her family, and

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<v Speaker 3>he goes, I, So here's the thing. Every spring break,

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<v Speaker 3>me and my buddies go down to spring training in Florida.

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<v Speaker 3>She goes, you go to Florida for spring break at

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<v Speaker 3>your age. He's like, no, no, no, no, it's not spring

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<v Speaker 3>spring break. It's spring training. She goes in the Red

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<v Speaker 3>Sox like, let you train with the team, and he goes, no, no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't get to train with him. But we look

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<v Speaker 3>at the team and we decide who we like, we

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<v Speaker 3>don't like, who they should keep, or who She goes and.

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<v Speaker 1>The Red Sox listen to you, and he goes, well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>not he not yet.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when you bring it down like that, it sounds sad.

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<v Speaker 1>It does. That's kind of the point of what I'm getting.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's sports fandom, that's exactly it is. Like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>evaluating these guys. I want to know who they should take,

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<v Speaker 3>who they should keep, what they should do in the draft,

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<v Speaker 3>who should be the starter next year. Yeah, because you're

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<v Speaker 3>an informed fan and because it all comes back to

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<v Speaker 3>your love and care for the success of this team. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>So it brings me back to like, fans are emotional.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm emotional. Yes, you're emotional. We've been around the stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>They're called fanatics for a reason, man.

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<v Speaker 3>World, Yeah, that's exactly where the word fan comes from,

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<v Speaker 3>that you're a fanatic about this team in and of itself.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just wonder, like when we talk about, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>who do fans want to see? Who do they want

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<v Speaker 3>to keep? For me, it's less about like does the

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<v Speaker 3>fan like what's happening or does the fan understand how

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<v Speaker 3>the team views this player. That's where That's how I

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<v Speaker 3>view baseball at this point of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's mixed.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that we see, we hear fans call in

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<v Speaker 6>in and it frustrates me. But the fans that call

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<v Speaker 6>in and say, why would you trade Luisa Rise He's

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<v Speaker 6>the heartbeat of the team right now, And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 6>I understand, but guys, it's an expiring contract. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 6>lose him anyway, probably in the offseason, so you would

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<v Speaker 6>have to trade him. It's not about this guy inspiring

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<v Speaker 6>your child at the game right now, it's about getting

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<v Speaker 6>prospects for him.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the ultimate goal here.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not about putting smiles on children in the ballpark.

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<v Speaker 3>Eight year old Charlie don't care about the single way

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<v Speaker 3>prospects you got from the dr that's coming over.

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<v Speaker 2>But neither does. But Buster Posey doesn't care about the kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he.

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<v Speaker 3>Does because he's the memory making Yeah he is. I

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<v Speaker 3>would say he does care about that kid. But like

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<v Speaker 3>you got a job for the lawn hall, you got

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<v Speaker 3>a job to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, of course.

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<v Speaker 3>My brother texted me today and said, with with that

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<v Speaker 3>that article tag to the text, he said, number four

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<v Speaker 3>Giants prospects system in all of baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, Buster knows what he's doing. I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I also think that.

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<v Speaker 3>In the Hunter Pence's comment earlier today, he said, look,

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna take three years before it's Buster's team. I've

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<v Speaker 3>been saying that to you since Paster took the job. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I told you that. I was like, dude, went far

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<v Speaker 3>on took the job. People were pissed day one year

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<v Speaker 3>one season. People are upset because it's the move on

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<v Speaker 3>from Boach. It's the hiring of Dave Kapler's all this

0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:20.600
<v Speaker 3>stuff people were upset about, and I go, dude, the

0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:22.920
<v Speaker 3>guy doesn't even have his system in place. Now we

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<v Speaker 3>find out his system wasn't operating at a super high level.

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<v Speaker 3>There are pieces from that system that are working out.

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<v Speaker 3>Bryce Eldridge's one Casey Schmid has won. There are pieces

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<v Speaker 3>they've gotten that are going to be a part of

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<v Speaker 3>this team going forward. That said, it's different than football.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, even Kyle Shanahan needed a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of time, took till twenty nineteen. He took over in seventeen,

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen eighteen and into nineteen before you were the team

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<v Speaker 3>that he was capable of winning with.

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<v Speaker 2>And now we have the expectations, right Yeah, No, absolutely so.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean you and I, I think have always had

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<v Speaker 6>that mentality, and like I thought it a lot more

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<v Speaker 6>last year when they brought in twenty vitto, like this

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<v Speaker 6>is gonna get Rocky a little bit, And then I

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<v Speaker 6>remember your mentality is doesn't matter he has to win

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<v Speaker 6>right away, yes and no, Like the mentality from Buster

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<v Speaker 6>Posey is I hope they win, but if it's not good,

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<v Speaker 6>at least I have a guy that can speak to

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<v Speaker 6>a younger generation if I have to flip it, and

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<v Speaker 6>we're not there in Tyler yet, but there will be.

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<v Speaker 2>There may be more moves in the offseason. We shall see.

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<v Speaker 6>But as far as fans, I mean, you should anticipate

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<v Speaker 6>this when you see six guys trade at the deadline,

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<v Speaker 6>where wins and losses don't matter at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about evaluating players. And are fans evaluations right? Sometimes?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, of course there are there's some fans that are like,

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<v Speaker 6>I like this guy because you know, I think they

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<v Speaker 6>could turn around, Like why they trade away? Why do

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<v Speaker 6>they trade away Elliott Ramos? Why they trade away this guy?

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<v Speaker 6>This team could turn around.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I test mean something, Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>But I you know, I would say, you're probably wrong

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<v Speaker 6>in that department.

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<v Speaker 2>But who knows. I don't know. We act like we

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<v Speaker 2>know as radio hosts. We don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>I just think that I don't know whatever your heart

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<v Speaker 6>feels as a fan by all means, but at this

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<v Speaker 6>point you have to accept that wins and losses do

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<v Speaker 6>not matter for this team right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously they're twenty one games, but five hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Just gonna I'm gonna parse what you said just briefly,

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<v Speaker 3>and this doesn't meant as like a criticism of what

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<v Speaker 3>you said. Matter to me, when it comes to wins

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<v Speaker 3>and losses for a sports team, they always matter. To

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<v Speaker 3>say they don't matter is in my mind, and again

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<v Speaker 3>not putting this on you, Derek, I'm saying in my mind,

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<v Speaker 3>to say it doesn't matter is almost taking away from

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<v Speaker 3>the job that so many people within the organization are

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<v Speaker 3>doing to try to get guys ready to win, right

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<v Speaker 3>And it's baseball is a different game where it's not

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<v Speaker 3>all on one guy. You know, Barry Bonds is the

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<v Speaker 3>greatest hitter I've ever seen, and he went to the

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<v Speaker 3>playoffs with the Giants a lot of times. He went

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<v Speaker 3>to one World Series, right, the best if you have

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<v Speaker 3>the best player in basketball, you're like in it every year,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, You're like in Lebron was

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<v Speaker 3>the best player for a lot of us who have

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<v Speaker 3>ever seen guy was in eight straight NBA finals. It

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't always happen that way, right, But matter to me

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes takes away from the work that they do behind

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<v Speaker 3>the scenes. And just because you put in the work

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't mean it's not real. It means it didn't it

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<v Speaker 3>didn't meet the expectation that it took to get into

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<v Speaker 3>the playoffs or succeed that year. I would say winning

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<v Speaker 3>is just not, at this point in the season, the

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<v Speaker 3>number one most important thing, because I do think winning

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<v Speaker 3>is cultural. I do think they continuing to win and

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<v Speaker 3>feeling that even when things aren't going well build something

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<v Speaker 3>in somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>Because to lose and lose and lose and.

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<v Speaker 3>Then find joy or find success in well, but that

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<v Speaker 3>guy developed that doesn't feel great, you know what I mean? Like,

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<v Speaker 3>So I think winning is important. I think winning is

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<v Speaker 3>a cultural thing. And I think that's where Tony Vitello

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<v Speaker 3>is when he says that, And that's why I respect,

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<v Speaker 3>relate and understand what he's saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I just go, yeah, but was losing this game.

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<v Speaker 3>As important as letting Tidwell get out of that jam?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, that's where I weigh that difference. But I can't.

0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:46.320
<v Speaker 3>I can't put myself in that chair, So I just

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<v Speaker 3>have to do it as a fan. I won't say

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<v Speaker 3>it won't matters, and I think that's I honestly think

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<v Speaker 3>that's kind of what you're saying too. It's not that

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't matter, it's just that it's not. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>paramount on August twelfth or whatever day we're at now. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>when when you're twenty one games back.

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<v Speaker 6>Is what I'm saying is to certain people, like if

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<v Speaker 6>you're asking me in the grand scheme of things this

0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:06.440
<v Speaker 6>giant season, no, And of course, like fans don't want

0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:08.720
<v Speaker 6>to see a one hundred lost season, but we're turning

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<v Speaker 6>in that direction right now. But does it matter to

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<v Speaker 6>Bryce Eligerridge as a matter, to Logan Webb, all these

0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:15.480
<v Speaker 6>guys on the team right now? Absolutely? Does it matter

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<v Speaker 6>to Tony Vitello, Yes? Does it matter to Buster Posey,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sure he has pride.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and what he's doing right now, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 6>But like as far as what the end goal is, no,

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<v Speaker 6>it doesn't matter. Like, yes, you can establish winning cultures

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<v Speaker 6>when you're having a losing season. Like there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 6>so many teams going into this NFL season, We're gonna

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<v Speaker 6>write them off immediately. We don't think the Miami Dolphins

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<v Speaker 6>are gonna be good, the Arizona Cardinals, the Jets.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, you don't think the Dolphins are gonna be good?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you seen the roster?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, I don't think that either, that's a that

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<v Speaker 6>that should be a gim me Week two for the Niners.

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<v Speaker 3>I heard their guy, Jeff Haffley talking their head coach,

0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:51.400
<v Speaker 3>former Niner Stafford is right, Yeah, Jeff Haffley talking about, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna give h.

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<v Speaker 1>N the ball like like eighty times a game.

0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:56.880
<v Speaker 3>He's joking, but he's like, I'm gonna I'm gonna drag

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<v Speaker 3>him off the field on for forty five carries. And

0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:01.399
<v Speaker 3>I was like, wait, is this is Is it Devon

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<v Speaker 3>h In or what's his name, Devon h Yeah or

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<v Speaker 3>is it Travis A Is it Devon atn Devon Travis Agent?

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 6>But the point with that is he for for the

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<v Speaker 6>Miami Dolphins this season, wins and losses do not matter.

0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:18.399
<v Speaker 6>It's about establishing a culture, to establish winning ways for

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<v Speaker 6>the future. So yes, twenty five Telo wants to win,

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<v Speaker 6>but it's really about establishing a culture.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now.

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<v Speaker 6>Have we seen that as media members or fans. No,

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<v Speaker 6>it could be behind closed doors in the clubhouse. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know right now. So it matters to certain people.

0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:34.520
<v Speaker 6>But like in the end, all be all, no wins

0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:37.600
<v Speaker 6>and losses I think forever for most people do not

0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:38.400
<v Speaker 6>matter at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, Cambre four one, five eight, five sixty seven the

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<v Speaker 3>number to call the detection. You got thoughts of the Giants,

0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:45.000
<v Speaker 3>we will take them. But we also now with the

0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:47.360
<v Speaker 3>Giants finishing this series against the Astros, they have another

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<v Speaker 3>series against the Rocky started on Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>We have got an off day tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>For the Giants, which means you'll hear your San Francisco

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<v Speaker 3>forty nine ers right here on the Sports Leader on

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<v Speaker 3>the blow towards starting what is it three o'clock tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>We got pregame Derek and I from two to three,

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<v Speaker 3>three to five. We got Niner pre game against the

0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:07.720
<v Speaker 3>Volunteer State Tennessee Titans. They come to town to take

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<v Speaker 3>off the Niners in a preseason opener. We got pregame

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<v Speaker 3>with myself in Todd Hustack tomorrow, which means it's time

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<v Speaker 3>to at least in some degree, really put the sites

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<v Speaker 3>on the NFL season hard knocks out and dude, I've

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<v Speaker 3>been catching I've been catching more hard knocks lately.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. You see, uh, you see what's the what's the

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<v Speaker 1>name of the the Spurscuts. Mitch mit Johnson, he was met.

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<v Speaker 3>You see that that clip of him talking to Mike McDonald, Dude,

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<v Speaker 3>I like that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he is a Seahawks fan, I guess lives in

0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:35.280
<v Speaker 6>the area and the off season and the GM joined

0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:37.960
<v Speaker 6>him in a little meeting about how can I establish

0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:39.760
<v Speaker 6>a certain culture that you got going on right now?

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<v Speaker 2>I lost my championship. You won yours. Mike McDonald, Yeah,

0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:44.120
<v Speaker 2>they lost their championship.

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<v Speaker 3>He also, like the GAM also like openly admits to

0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:49.720
<v Speaker 3>tanking the team two years in advance. Yeah, we looked

0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:51.479
<v Speaker 3>at we looked at at Wemby, and we were like,

0:21:51.680 --> 0:21:52.520
<v Speaker 3>we gotta get this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's a great player. We gotta started losing. We

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<v Speaker 2>gotta start We're better start losing.

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<v Speaker 6>And how see like that that's sports. He sometimes like,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not saying the Giants are intentionally losing.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not doing that.

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<v Speaker 6>But you got to set yourself up for failure a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit and then but you establish something within the

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<v Speaker 6>locker room and then you find that winning culture with

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<v Speaker 6>whoever you have in place.

0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:10.880
<v Speaker 2>As the coach.

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<v Speaker 3>Ataway Cambre four one, five, eight, five, six, twenty seven,

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<v Speaker 3>we will get into some football tog next. You gotta

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<v Speaker 3>hear when Mike McDonald said it's gonna I think what

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<v Speaker 3>did you say? Derek is gonna promote a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>new drops for us.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, clip this is this this this clip last

0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:26.960
<v Speaker 6>night featured Mike McDonald chewing into Derek Hall, So we

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<v Speaker 6>can use a lot of these the these sound bites

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<v Speaker 6>in this clip.

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<v Speaker 1>Does he say Derek a lot?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, dude.

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<v Speaker 3>If you if you were looking for some new drops

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<v Speaker 3>to rip Derek, you're gonna want to be here next. Also, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>there better not be anything from Michael McDonald on Yamo

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<v Speaker 3>be there, bro.

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<v Speaker 6>If I'm a Yama, if I hear that song one

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<v Speaker 6>more time, I yamo burned this place of the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I want to say the next person minute if

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<v Speaker 3>I here, Yamo b there one more time. By the way,

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<v Speaker 3>my guy Paul Road, he's wearing my shoes.

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<v Speaker 1>He's in that movie.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought Matt Dame was kind of like a Streisand,

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<v Speaker 6>but he's a kicking ass in this movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of like bag sand All right, we'll take a

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<v Speaker 3>quick break. Adam Copeland deep pop, Danny done hanging out

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<v Speaker 3>with you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a Friday. It's a friday. It's a Wednesday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>We're hanging out with you. I wish it was due.

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<v Speaker 3>We're live from the well. I'm lie from the broadcast

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<v Speaker 3>booth at Oracle Park. Giants fall to the Astros two

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<v Speaker 3>or three, but we get the nighter preseason kicking off tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>More to come. Dirty Work on a Wednesday on The

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Leader.

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<v Speaker 8>Now back to dirty Work Adam Copeland and Derek Papa

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<v Speaker 8>on K and B R one O four, five and

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<v Speaker 8>six eighty Am The Sports Leader.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, Danny, Hell yeah, Dan.

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<v Speaker 3>Dirty work on a Wednesday afternoon, Adam Copeland, deep pop,

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<v Speaker 3>Danny done hanging out with you?

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, I got I got on.

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<v Speaker 3>A crow kick yesterday, Derek. Yeah yeah, dude, I was

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<v Speaker 3>all over it this morning. It applies to what's going

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<v Speaker 3>on with the Giants right now. If baseball makes you happy,

0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:57.000
<v Speaker 3>it can't be that bad. They're twenty one games below

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<v Speaker 3>five hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>But then why said, oh it's a twenty one Oh

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<v Speaker 1>yeah under yeah. Yeah. We're trying to laugh, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm just trying to have a good times, to

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<v Speaker 2>some fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little easier when you're not in July.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean with things that I've long thought the worst

0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:14.720
<v Speaker 3>thing for a baseball team, especially like in the job

0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:17.920
<v Speaker 3>that we have is being like a seventy seven win team,

0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:20.640
<v Speaker 3>seventy eight win team, because you're like, you're not good

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<v Speaker 3>enough to be in it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're just out of it.

0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:25.160
<v Speaker 3>You're clamoring all year. But at least at those points

0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:27.720
<v Speaker 3>you're more interested in, like, can we do something to

0:24:27.800 --> 0:24:30.639
<v Speaker 3>be relevant? Can we be a playoff team? Versus this

0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:33.600
<v Speaker 3>year where it kept thinking, we kept thinking, they can't

0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:36.000
<v Speaker 3>be this bad, right, They're not this bad. They've got

0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:38.040
<v Speaker 3>more talent than this. They can't keep losing the way

0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:40.480
<v Speaker 3>they're losing. They are, and they they just couldn't turn

0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:42.760
<v Speaker 3>it around. And then after July you get to the

0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:47.840
<v Speaker 3>trade deadline and Buster Posey, to his credit, has has

0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:50.240
<v Speaker 3>made a change in his focus for the organization. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean he took over with a team that he thought

0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:55.080
<v Speaker 3>was capable of winning and made a move. I still,

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<v Speaker 3>to this point, I am a little perplexed about the

0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:01.440
<v Speaker 3>Vitello higher. Like if you hire Tony Vitello and you

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<v Speaker 3>told me that they were going to go the path

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<v Speaker 3>that they went at the deadline, I'd be like, this

0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:09.639
<v Speaker 3>makes sense, Yeah, this is a somewhat rebuild, But it

0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:11.639
<v Speaker 3>was almost like they tried to do the Joe Lakob

0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:14.159
<v Speaker 3>two timeline thing, right, Like, let's try to win with

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 3>this team, but also develop with a manager who we

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:19.200
<v Speaker 3>think is a guy who's capable of developing young talent

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<v Speaker 3>like we saw at the college ranks, and instead of that,

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<v Speaker 3>we saw a team that, not to his complete fault

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<v Speaker 3>or detriment, has not succeeded.

0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:31.399
<v Speaker 1>And yet anyway, we're in the spot where they need

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<v Speaker 1>to rebuild and develop talent.

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<v Speaker 3>But you look today and Baseball America's got them ranked

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<v Speaker 3>as the number four pharm system in all of baseball.

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:40.200
<v Speaker 3>And more to that point, it's not just that their

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<v Speaker 3>rant number four, it's that their top prospects are all

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<v Speaker 3>having very good seasons and that means.

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<v Speaker 1>A bit more so. Still perplexed about that, but we've

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<v Speaker 1>got plenty of time to talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, go ahead, real quick.

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<v Speaker 6>Would you feel better about let's say they have the

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<v Speaker 6>same season going right now, but Nick Hunley is the manager.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you feeling better about the giant situation.

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<v Speaker 9>Right now?

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<v Speaker 6>We're going forward, Let's say the seasons the same thing,

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<v Speaker 6>but Nick Cunley's in as manager.

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<v Speaker 2>As a post a twenty Vitel.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't feel much different Okay, to be honest,

0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:10.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't. Okay, if it's if it's Bob Melvin, I

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:12.640
<v Speaker 3>actually feel worse. Yeah, to be honest with you, because

0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:15.399
<v Speaker 3>they regressed. They would have regressed, yeah, and they were

0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:17.359
<v Speaker 3>a worse team. Would they have been better with Melvin?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe?

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<v Speaker 3>Incrementally, I don't know. And like what I'm saying when

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<v Speaker 3>I mean my incremental is like five wins?

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<v Speaker 2>Did I mean?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think there are a team that's over five

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<v Speaker 3>hundred or add five hundred. I don't think I Tello's

0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:29.119
<v Speaker 3>had that impact on this team. There's no way to

0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:31.720
<v Speaker 3>actually measure that, right, There's no way to actually know,

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:35.000
<v Speaker 3>But I like, I understand the higher of Iello. If

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<v Speaker 3>the thought is they gotta get younger, we got to develop,

0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:39.600
<v Speaker 3>it's going to be a different situation, right, But that

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:41.960
<v Speaker 3>wasn't the plan. It was it's time to go, and

0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:44.080
<v Speaker 3>this isn't the guy to help us go, so let's

0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:47.359
<v Speaker 3>get somebody else. And instead it feels like, okay, Buster

0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:49.920
<v Speaker 3>might have had one eye on this version of this

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 3>team mm hmm, and then one eye on but we

0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 3>have this roster and I traded for Devers and we've

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:57.280
<v Speaker 3>got committed money to guys who can help us win. Now,

0:26:57.680 --> 0:26:58.560
<v Speaker 3>it just didn't go the path.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't take him off the hook for how they

0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:02.359
<v Speaker 3>went about the offseason. I still I won't let them

0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:04.359
<v Speaker 3>off the hook for how that went for the bullpen

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:05.960
<v Speaker 3>and the pitching staff. I don't agree with it, and

0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 3>we've watched it play out. That said, we're seeing more

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:10.520
<v Speaker 3>of the howser they thought they were getting than the

0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:12.320
<v Speaker 3>hawser that started the season in the rotation.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely, And I understand the sentiment as well from fans

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 6>that are like, Okay, I get it, like, yes, this

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:20.640
<v Speaker 6>the rest of the season really doesn't matter. But we've

0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:22.159
<v Speaker 6>been seeing this for a long time now, and this

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:24.720
<v Speaker 6>is by far the worst Since twenty twenty one, this

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:27.560
<v Speaker 6>team has been mediocre or just downright terrible, and that's

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 6>this season. So I understand the frustrations. It needs to change.

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 6>I just don't know when it's going to change. Probably

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:33.359
<v Speaker 6>not anytime soon right now.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm with you on that one.

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, came to our four one, five eightyweight, five sixty seven,

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:38.840
<v Speaker 3>the number to call and the number of ten, let's

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:40.400
<v Speaker 3>go out to Chris. Chris is on the the phone

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<v Speaker 3>lines before we get into some NFL stuff. Chris, you're

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 3>in Santa Clara, You're on the Sports Leader.

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:46.240
<v Speaker 1>What's up, dude? Hey?

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks. You know, guys, I'm curious when you look at

0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:52.520
<v Speaker 4>who played today for the Giants, what I see is

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 4>I see the Giants twenty twenty seven, and frankly, I

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:58.760
<v Speaker 4>see Giants twenty twenty eight. And I'm going to ask,

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<v Speaker 4>out of today's life, who do you suggest may not

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<v Speaker 4>be on the opening day lineup, not even opening day

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 4>roster or twenty twenty seven, whenever that does happen, and

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 4>eight who played today is on the roster.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you, Chris.

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 3>This is why Chris, let's run through the lineup today,

0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:19.119
<v Speaker 3>because because I'm with you, dude. Like, we had a

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:21.320
<v Speaker 3>couple of calls right after the deadline and a couple

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:22.879
<v Speaker 3>of people were calling this a fire.

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Sale, and I was like, well, not really, because a fire.

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 3>Sale is like selling off everything you've got for parts,

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:30.399
<v Speaker 3>get rid of, everything must go. And that was another

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:32.440
<v Speaker 3>Giants went about it. They went about it in the

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<v Speaker 3>in the the scope in my mind of like, anybody

0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 3>who's not necessarily guaranteed to be under contract next year

0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 3>is somebody we can get something for So if we

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 3>run through it, Chris and Danny Mitchull, he's potted up here.

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:46.880
<v Speaker 3>If we go Jung Hou Lee Lee's in the opening

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<v Speaker 3>day lineup next year?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yep?

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<v Speaker 1>Chris, you with me?

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 4>Yep, I'm with you.

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 3>I agree, okay. Williadomas yep, yep, yep. Bryce Heldridge yep, yep.

0:28:58.560 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 3>Raphile Devers yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay.

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:04.080
<v Speaker 3>Barrakoto's the one where you go, I gotta see something

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 3>and you don't even have to show it all this year.

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 3>You got to show it this year and in spring.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 4>Agree, He's a he's an interesting one. Let's watch and

0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 4>see what's happening.

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 3>I also Chris would add that like Barracoto's in the spot,

0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:19.600
<v Speaker 3>Like there's some guys who we anticipate will be here,

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 3>like Casey Schmidt. He's going to be an opening day

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 3>starter for the Giants. I would assume health permitting next year.

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 3>But he's a guy who's like they have an option

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:28.600
<v Speaker 3>to figure out is he going to be the second baseman,

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 3>is he the left fielder?

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:29.680
<v Speaker 5>What?

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 6>Like?

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Where is he playing?

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 3>But Schmid's a guy I think gives them versusile. So

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 3>Barrakoto to me, is not an absolute for sure, he's

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:39.480
<v Speaker 3>out there, Drew Gilbert, I'm gonna go opening day roster,

0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:42.360
<v Speaker 3>not necessarily starter, but I think he's opening day roster.

0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Are you with me there?

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 3>I think he's a platoon guy unless they find somebody

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:49.480
<v Speaker 3>who's an everyday center fielder. He's a left handed bat

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 3>who's not good against left handed pitching, but has been

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 3>pretty damn good against Righty's connection.

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:55.720
<v Speaker 1>To yeah, connection to Tony.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, a slave. This pasab is maybe my favorite. Didn't

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:01.720
<v Speaker 3>know he existed, dude in the last two years, you

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean?

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think he's been kind of intero. I mean

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:08.160
<v Speaker 4>he's gonna say that's actually interesting just to kind of

0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 4>watch him. He really hustle.

0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's and he's a guy who's got a glove.

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 3>He swings out of his ass, which I love, dude,

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 3>you guys swinging, swinging hard every time out. Also a

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 3>guy with a little bit of big league experience. He's

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 3>a dude I look at is like he'll have a

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 3>chance to make the team next year because he's versatile.

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:25.440
<v Speaker 3>I see him as a guy that could be the

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:29.440
<v Speaker 3>Christian cost version of the around the diamond infield or

0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:32.160
<v Speaker 3>backup that the Giants are looking for, because I don't

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 3>see Costs as a guaranteed every day guy.

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:37.840
<v Speaker 4>Do you see Costs as being on the roster.

0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 3>I think he's in competition. I think he's I think

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:43.760
<v Speaker 3>if a guy like Basab performs here at the end

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 3>of the year the way he has, I think it's

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 3>a spring competition. I think bench rolls, oftentimes, unless under contract,

0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 3>are kind of up for grabs, and for a team

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 3>like the Giants, who have been lacking in a lot

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 3>of areas, I think there's a true opportunity for some

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 3>guys to make noise or to try to claim a spot.

0:30:57.480 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 3>So I would say it's up in the air. But

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<v Speaker 3>I would say Besoe aban cost one of the two

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:02.880
<v Speaker 3>is an opening day guy.

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:05.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, fair enough. And I think Kavanaugh's got a shot

0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:07.960
<v Speaker 4>to at least be on the roster, right, Yeah, exactly.

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you.

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 3>It's like, dude, I think he's a right now what

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 3>I've seen from him, And he had a nice game today,

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 3>hit the ball hard a couple of times, had a

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 3>nice swing a couple.

0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Of nights ago.

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:17.240
<v Speaker 3>I think he's struggled a bit at the plate, but

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 3>his numbers aren't as bad as you might think, but

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:21.520
<v Speaker 3>I view him as more of a if he gets

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 3>comfortable catching a game, I love a backup defensive catcher,

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 3>and I think he offers you that if if Sue

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 3>Sack is your opening day, dude, yeah sounds good.

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 4>So the reason why I asked the question, I really

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:34.480
<v Speaker 4>appreciate the conversation, Yeah, man, is that this is not

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 4>This is not what used to be a late September

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 4>calling up a bunch of minor league right chapter of

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:44.240
<v Speaker 4>a sucky season, right, yep, this is the next two

0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 4>hundred games before the guants are going to be right.

0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 4>And I think it's important to kind of approach it

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 4>that way because, you know, it kind of feels like

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:55.240
<v Speaker 4>what it used to be when we were younger. Right, hey, September,

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:57.640
<v Speaker 4>you know, dog and a whole freaking minor leagues come up.

0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 4>Let's go watch what's maybe gonna happen? Sure, no, no, no,

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 4>this is it. This is the best that they have

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 4>to offer for the next year, if not two years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do agree with you.

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 3>And what's funny is I don't hate this lineup, man like,

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 3>and I know Chapman's probably a guy who's a part

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 3>of this as well, right in Casey Schmid, who we mentioned.

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 1>But that's that was kind of my point is like,

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 1>I think we enter.

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 3>Next year, dude, with like seven of at least seven

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 3>of the same guys that we opened this year with

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:22.920
<v Speaker 3>on opening day.

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:25.160
<v Speaker 4>What's gonna be different?

0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 3>Hopefully the pitching staff, that would be my hope, because

0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 3>that's the side that really let him down.

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 4>Well, okay, I figured I would at least just kind

0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 4>of kind of bring it up because now you're right,

0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 4>I don't disagree, man, Yeah, yeah, yeah, just kind of

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:40.960
<v Speaker 4>how we look at the rest of the season because

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 4>I think it's easy to go, oh, you know, it's over.

0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 9>You know, let's just see.

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 4>But you know that's what it used to feel like

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:48.240
<v Speaker 4>when we were younger, right, and we just think it's different.

0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 4>So anyway, Hey, I just wanted to kind of chip

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:52.160
<v Speaker 4>that in, and I you know, to me, it means

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 4>that if they really can't cut it now, I'm not

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 4>talking on the pitching side. I mean today pitching was great, right,

0:32:58.360 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 4>I mean, what are you gonna do complain two runs?

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 1>How's it was great?

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 3>And it's the offensive. Let you know, today I appreciate

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:05.360
<v Speaker 3>the conquerors, thanks so much. And that's the thing too,

0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:07.400
<v Speaker 3>is is look at what was it, seven or eight

0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:09.640
<v Speaker 3>games now they've led at the end of the eighth inning,

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 3>and they've lost those games this year. Seventeen blown saves,

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:14.320
<v Speaker 3>like that doesn't mean you lost. I mean you didn't

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 3>close the door when you had the lead late in

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:19.440
<v Speaker 3>the game. And that's not neither here nor there, but

0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 3>it is. It's part of the game. That's too many

0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 3>times to have that happen. And I do think not

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 3>naming a closer was a big issue. I mean, look

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 3>no further than than Caleb Killian's numbers in the ninth

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 3>inning versus outside of the ninth, right, Like, the ninth

0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 3>inning is different. Sergio Romo has told me as much.

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 3>Different Different guys who have been in the ninth across

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 3>baseball for years will tell you the eighth is different

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 3>than the ninth because the ninth it's almost like you

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 3>blow it in the eighth, Derek. The mindset for me

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 3>is like, man, that's stunk, but we have a chance

0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 3>still to win this game. Right, you blow it in

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 3>the ninth, You're like, dude, we were about to win. Yeah,

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 3>it was over and you didn't get you didn't close

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 3>the door.

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:56.560
<v Speaker 6>No, I mean that's been the case for most of

0:33:56.600 --> 0:33:59.160
<v Speaker 6>the season. And yeah, you're hoping that the pitching turns

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:01.600
<v Speaker 6>around next year. But if this is the lineup we

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:04.480
<v Speaker 6>have next year too, I mean, yeah, to his point,

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 6>what changes, hopefully the pitching, but it's gonna be the

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:10.719
<v Speaker 6>same product on the field as far as wins and losses. Yeah, maybe, yeah,

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:14.000
<v Speaker 6>I like I would I would really hope not. You know,

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:16.400
<v Speaker 6>of course not hope not, but say, is it the

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:19.799
<v Speaker 6>same as wins and losses? Like I if you if

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 6>you go into that year where a bullpen constructed the

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 6>same way as you did this year, you're asking for trouble, right,

0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:27.839
<v Speaker 6>Like I would expect them to say that can't happen again.

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:30.440
<v Speaker 6>If anything, that will be something that's fixed.

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 2>I would hope.

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I would hope they overcorrect on that front.

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:36.239
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I would think that Busher would take accountability for

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 6>his mistakes. And it may not be him, and maybe

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 6>the whole you know, as far as the front office

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 6>and you know, the owners as well, like putting some

0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:47.319
<v Speaker 6>value into the into the bullpen and hopefully the rain

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:49.960
<v Speaker 6>of Rodriguez comes back. But yeah, I mean, if this

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:52.239
<v Speaker 6>is what we're looking at I get it, like you know,

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 6>it is what it is at this point, and you

0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:56.120
<v Speaker 6>hope that things are turned around, but I do not know.

0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know about the future right now.

0:34:57.440 --> 0:34:59.239
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, Cam yours and I'm gonna call four and five

0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 3>eighty eight five six said, let's go to Donald Donald

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:02.440
<v Speaker 3>is in Stockton.

0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:02.799
<v Speaker 1>What's up?

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 7>Donald?

0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 1>You're on the Sports Leader. Hell you guys.

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:11.399
<v Speaker 7>I was kind of upset that Logan Web pitched that's

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:15.919
<v Speaker 7>a great game the other day, and uh, I wish

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:18.319
<v Speaker 7>he would have like taken a day off and they

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 7>moved him into the second game. Uh, but it's the

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 7>leadoff game for some reason. Is uh, I don't know.

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 7>The picture was fantastic for the other for who the

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:36.840
<v Speaker 7>help we play? Yeah, the Asters and the leadoff spot

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:40.279
<v Speaker 7>is a questionable thing. I don't think Jung Ho Lee

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:44.720
<v Speaker 7>should be a leadoff position. I mean, he plays great

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 7>when he's batten five and uh, you know he's got

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:51.680
<v Speaker 7>men on base. Maybe he's just not a leadoff hitter.

0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 7>We don't have a Mike Hargrove or a who's he

0:35:55.239 --> 0:36:01.120
<v Speaker 7>as leadoff hitter man? Ricky Anderson, My god, the guy

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:03.319
<v Speaker 7>was slamming slamming Hall.

0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you mean you mean the greatest leadoff hitter who

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 1>ever lived?

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree.

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:10.840
<v Speaker 7>They don't have a Yeah, and you're not going to

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:13.239
<v Speaker 7>find players like that. But you know, how about how

0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:16.000
<v Speaker 7>about Devers? The guy can smack the ball out of

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:18.640
<v Speaker 7>the park and you get on base too. Right, But

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:22.840
<v Speaker 7>we lost Matt, we lost Matt Chapman, we lost Casey.

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 7>They're probably gone for the rest of the year. And uh,

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 7>now we've got players that I don't know who they are.

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:32.360
<v Speaker 7>I mean, it's like it's tough. And Robbie Ray was

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:35.400
<v Speaker 7>pitching great, he gets traded? What else happened?

0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Boy? Hold on? Hold on, Hong Hong.

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:41.319
<v Speaker 3>You thought they should have kept Robbi Ray? You thought

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:42.880
<v Speaker 3>they should have kept Robby Ray when they were like

0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 3>seventeen games under five hundred.

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 7>Though, Well, if they if they're going to trade him

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:48.759
<v Speaker 7>and get something for him, he.

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Did they do? They got something for him.

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:52.799
<v Speaker 3>They got something for him, to the point that now

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:55.480
<v Speaker 3>the Giants are raided by Baseball America the number four

0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:57.400
<v Speaker 3>team in all of baseball in their minor league system.

0:36:57.480 --> 0:36:59.719
<v Speaker 3>Like that's something we as Giants fans, have talked about

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:02.520
<v Speaker 3>for it decade at not being good at So if

0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 3>you're not gonna win games, isn't the alternate, Like, let's

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:07.680
<v Speaker 3>get better somewhere else. And I think they did at

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 3>least on paper, and the guys they got are having

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:13.440
<v Speaker 3>good years. Like I can't I can't do and honestly,

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 3>I can't keep thinking back to, well they shouldn't have

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:17.520
<v Speaker 3>traded away. I wanted to see a rise play. Does

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:19.880
<v Speaker 3>it really matter who you're seeing? Like the guys you

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:22.120
<v Speaker 3>saw today, So many of these guys we just named,

0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:23.839
<v Speaker 3>like five of them. You're saying you don't know who

0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 3>they are. They were in the opening day lineup. Lee

0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:28.360
<v Speaker 3>Adamis Eldridge wasn't there, but you expected him to be

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:30.799
<v Speaker 3>here at some point. Drew Gilbert we saw last year.

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:32.440
<v Speaker 3>You knew he'd be up at some point this year.

0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 3>Raphael Devers, Christian Kass was on the roster most of

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 3>last year.

0:37:35.800 --> 0:37:36.719
<v Speaker 1>That's six of your.

0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:39.200
<v Speaker 3>Opening day lineup right now, you know what I mean?

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 3>Or not opening day line that's six of your lineup today.

0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:43.480
<v Speaker 3>And those guys were all guys we expected to see

0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:45.800
<v Speaker 3>this year. So like, I get what you're saying, but

0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 3>we also don't have to our previous collegs point dude,

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 3>we don't have the forty man roster or the rosterer.

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:52.840
<v Speaker 3>You have the forty man roster, we don't have the

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:55.759
<v Speaker 3>roster expansion to forty guys. In September, you only get

0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:57.680
<v Speaker 3>to go to twenty eight. So when the Giants were

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:00.879
<v Speaker 3>in it in the Dusty Baker era, in the Bruce

0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:03.799
<v Speaker 3>Bogi arrow with Sabian, we would be in the playoff hunt.

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:05.799
<v Speaker 3>Then you get to September and you'd see all these

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:08.320
<v Speaker 3>guys come up that maybe we don't remember or weren't

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 3>factors in the postseason, but they were there to alleviate

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:13.400
<v Speaker 3>some of the pressure and stress on the guys who'd

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:15.719
<v Speaker 3>been grinding through the first five months. When you're out

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:17.200
<v Speaker 3>of it, these are the guys you got to take

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 3>a look at. Eddi's Leonard's already gone, you know what

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:21.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean. Barracota they're getting a look at because they

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:23.319
<v Speaker 3>traded Ramos, So they need to know are we going

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:25.240
<v Speaker 3>to go into the offseason looking for a left fielder

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:26.960
<v Speaker 3>or do we have a guy we think can be

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:29.360
<v Speaker 3>a left fielder. Like I really do think that we

0:38:29.480 --> 0:38:32.319
<v Speaker 3>got more scope on the vision forward, whether it means

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:35.799
<v Speaker 3>succeeding now or in three years when the minor league

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 3>system gets here. I think we've got more vision for

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:40.720
<v Speaker 3>this team going forward because to my point from earlier,

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:43.480
<v Speaker 3>man like the wins and losses at this point in

0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:46.279
<v Speaker 3>the season, twenty one games under, it's not the most

0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:48.799
<v Speaker 3>important thing. I think it's important because I think it's

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:51.160
<v Speaker 3>culture for the team and for the organization. But I

0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 3>don't think that's the end all, be all goal for

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:54.480
<v Speaker 3>the month of August.

0:38:56.680 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I agree. I'm just I'm glad they didn't get

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:01.839
<v Speaker 7>rid of a few players. I mean, I heard Jung

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:04.080
<v Speaker 7>Ho Lee was on the block, and I'm like, oh, please,

0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:05.279
<v Speaker 7>don't get rid of Jung Ho Lee.

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:06.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you, I'm with you.

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:09.759
<v Speaker 7>He was hurt, he got hurt last year, but he

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:13.279
<v Speaker 7>he is just tearing it up this year. But uh no,

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:16.480
<v Speaker 7>I agree, and uh Casey Smith is going to be

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:20.239
<v Speaker 7>uh back in next year and look at Yeah, next

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:22.439
<v Speaker 7>year is what we're looking at. I know, but we've

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:24.920
<v Speaker 7>got to be positive for this year. I don't want

0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:27.279
<v Speaker 7>to hear this. We might win, we might lose a

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:29.520
<v Speaker 7>hundred games. I don't want to hear that because we're

0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:31.840
<v Speaker 7>not going to lose a hundred games. You know, We're

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:35.040
<v Speaker 7>gonna win enough to you know, we're not gonna be

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:37.440
<v Speaker 7>in the playoffs, of course, but you know, I just

0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:40.520
<v Speaker 7>wanted to get past this year and get Chapman and

0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:43.120
<v Speaker 7>Casey Smith back and we'll be fine.

0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:45.960
<v Speaker 3>I appreture the call brother thinks so much, but they might.

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:48.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't ye, I don't know what they're gonna lose.

0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Or what they're gonna win. N I will say this, Uh.

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:53.759
<v Speaker 3>I love the idea of a guy like Eldridge coming

0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 3>up when it's not going good and then things turning around.

0:39:57.280 --> 0:39:58.759
<v Speaker 3>Like I like when guys you know what I mean,

0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:00.920
<v Speaker 3>Like you see that with the The best example of that,

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 3>Derek is like NFL quarterbacks because the number one guy

0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:06.360
<v Speaker 3>gets drafted to the worst team right where the Bengals good.

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 1>When they got Burrow. No, don't want to look at

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 1>them now, like, dude, they have a shot.

0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 2>Every they turned it around, Yes they have Burrow.

0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Right, Like we look at that them, We're like, dude,

0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:13.839
<v Speaker 1>they got a shot.

0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:16.360
<v Speaker 6>So you're hopeing Bryce Eldridge is the quarterback that changes

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:19.719
<v Speaker 6>the franchise, except the baseball doesn't work exactly like it's

0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 6>It's it's very different. Like Cam Warren needs to be

0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:24.880
<v Speaker 6>that guy for the Tennessee Titans right now. But you

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 6>need pitching. You need a ton like not not a

0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:29.080
<v Speaker 6>ton of guys on the Giants right now.

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:31.759
<v Speaker 3>He's could hit seventy three and miss the playoffs. Like

0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:34.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, Barry Bonds, you know what I mean.

0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 3>He hit seventy three and they didn't go.

0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 1>To the playoffs.

0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, Like that's that's my point.

0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:42.000
<v Speaker 1>He threw seventy three touchdowns, dude, I swear to god,

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:43.719
<v Speaker 1>you're you have a buye Like.

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 2>If you throw seventy three, only a bye, my friend,

0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:48.399
<v Speaker 2>you are seventeen to oh, you might.

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Get a buy into the NFC championship.

0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, seventy three touchdowns?

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Good lord. That's what I'm saying is like.

0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow through sixty to college season.

0:40:57.560 --> 0:41:00.160
<v Speaker 3>You can give up all the touchdowns you want. He's

0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:02.040
<v Speaker 3>gonna throw seventy three. I don't care how good your

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:04.960
<v Speaker 3>defense is. Dude, throw seventy three teddies. You're going to

0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:07.120
<v Speaker 3>the playoffs. That's happening, yes, without question.

0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, come on, you hit seventy three, But Madden seasons

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:12.040
<v Speaker 6>you play, you don't get seventy three touchdowns thrown.

0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:14.040
<v Speaker 3>You hit seventy three bombs. You're like, oh, dude, that

0:41:14.080 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 3>team's got showing Anne Johnson, we're not going.

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:18.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, that's really how it worked out.

0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 3>An away camby are four one, five, eight, five, sixty

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:23.240
<v Speaker 3>two seven Dandy a little on air producing were we behind?

0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:25.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what my clock is, brother, I think.

0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:26.120
<v Speaker 2>We're in the four.

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 4>We're behind.

0:41:26.680 --> 0:41:28.120
<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're really behind.

0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:30.799
<v Speaker 1>I think, well, say you know what, Danny, stuff, you're stuff.

0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 1>You're behind in a sack? You asked. Yeah.

0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:35.800
<v Speaker 2>It was like it came on the air and be like,

0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:36.480
<v Speaker 2>guys were behind.

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:37.120
<v Speaker 1>He's in my ear.

0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:38.840
<v Speaker 2>He's like, we got it going. Okay, it's come on.

0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's my birthday, It's we're twenty three. All right.

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:44.879
<v Speaker 3>This is never a time we've ever gone to break.

0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:47.560
<v Speaker 3>This is actually an exact time we would never break, right, Derek.

0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Not usually at this time. We come back. Yeah, exactly.

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:53.200
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Danny, I don't need you talking ask either. Okay,

0:41:53.200 --> 0:41:54.359
<v Speaker 3>I don't need you to tell me I'm late off.

0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:57.080
<v Speaker 2>I like this, Come on, Daddy, let's go. Let's go

0:41:57.760 --> 0:41:58.560
<v Speaker 2>take them off.

0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 1>In a way camp we are, y'amo, b there a

0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:01.759
<v Speaker 1>little Michael.

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:03.719
<v Speaker 2>McDonald's service down Seahawk's action.

0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Next on the Sports Leader.

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:08.440
<v Speaker 7>The picture was fantastic for the other for who the

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 7>hell do we play?

0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Now?

0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:14.480
<v Speaker 8>Back to Dirty Work with Copes and d Pop on

0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:18.440
<v Speaker 8>one oh four five FM and six eighty am v

0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:20.279
<v Speaker 8>Sports Leader.

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:28.400
<v Speaker 3>Dirty Work with You on a Wednesday afternoon, Adam Coupling

0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:30.440
<v Speaker 3>depop Danny Down hanging out with the online from.

0:42:30.280 --> 0:42:31.719
<v Speaker 1>The broadcast booth at Oracle Park.

0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:34.759
<v Speaker 3>Giants fall to the Astros two to one, But I

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:36.319
<v Speaker 3>don't think the end results is really what.

0:42:37.320 --> 0:42:39.080
<v Speaker 1>What we should be focused on now.

0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:40.920
<v Speaker 3>People have been calling in at eight o a KMBR

0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:43.480
<v Speaker 3>four one five eight five sixty seven, Derek, I was

0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:46.680
<v Speaker 3>just discussing behind the scenes here with Danny. Now, in

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:49.440
<v Speaker 3>front of the scenes. Nobody ever talks about in front

0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:51.160
<v Speaker 3>of the scenes. It's always behind you ever know that?

0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:53.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, I guess that's the right term, behind the scenes.

0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:55.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, let's talk about in front of the scenes.

0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 6>Is it ever really in front of the scenes, like

0:42:57.640 --> 0:42:59.879
<v Speaker 6>in front of the scenes would be us. It's just this, Yeah,

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:03.120
<v Speaker 6>this is the scene. Danny's behind the scenes. And sometimes

0:43:03.200 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 6>on the scene.

0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:05.720
<v Speaker 3>I said to Danny, you know, Danny, when the Giants

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 3>lose like a heartbreaking game, and today it was frustrated.

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 3>Of course they lost, but I'm like, it's I'm sort

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 3>of bey on that at this point, you can't hurt me,

0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:12.960
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean?

0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:15.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, you can't hurt me and you can't break me.

0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:18.920
<v Speaker 1>But you won't break me now, not in August, when.

0:43:18.800 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 2>You can't break out of these cuffs. I can break

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:21.160
<v Speaker 2>out of these cuffs.

0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:23.840
<v Speaker 3>Now when preseason starts tomorrow, I can break out of

0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 3>these cuffs. I said to Danny, I said, why we're

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:27.799
<v Speaker 3>getting calls? Man, I didn't know we'd get calls today

0:43:27.800 --> 0:43:29.279
<v Speaker 3>on the Giants. He's like, yeah, I thought we would

0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:35.040
<v Speaker 3>really damn Now, Dan, why would you say that fans

0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:35.960
<v Speaker 3>are frustrated, Derek?

0:43:36.000 --> 0:43:39.239
<v Speaker 2>They want to vent Okay about this game, No about

0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:40.480
<v Speaker 2>the season? All right, Okay, that that.

0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:43.680
<v Speaker 6>Makes more sense if we're analyzing every game at this point.

0:43:43.719 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 6>I'm like, come on, guys, but I get it, Like,

0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:48.680
<v Speaker 6>it's not just this season. It's been a long time

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:51.319
<v Speaker 6>now that the Giants have been mediocre, or as fans

0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:53.400
<v Speaker 6>have said, ass, here's here's where.

0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:54.319
<v Speaker 1>I would feel better though, Derek.

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 3>Do you think do you think people who are calling

0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:57.799
<v Speaker 3>in we got Mario Patrick and Jonathan on the line,

0:43:57.840 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 3>We'll get the calsure in just to say.

0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:01.200
<v Speaker 1>You think people calling in turn on the radio and

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:04.600
<v Speaker 1>we're like, I'm I'm provoked. I'd like to call. Or

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:06.399
<v Speaker 1>do you think they saw the Giants lose the game

0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:08.279
<v Speaker 1>and they were like, I gotta get this off my chest?

0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 2>A little bit of both.

0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I like to think it's us.

0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's probably us. We probably provoked them a little bit.

0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:15.840
<v Speaker 6>But also I'm sure people are like, I kind of

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:17.319
<v Speaker 6>want to hear that Mike McDonald's sound too.

0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 1>People, are you gonna play that Yamo b there?

0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:19.800
<v Speaker 10>Or what?

0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:22.800
<v Speaker 3>Let's go to Mario Mario's and Mario, when did you

0:44:22.880 --> 0:44:24.560
<v Speaker 3>decide to call You're on the Sports Leader.

0:44:26.719 --> 0:44:29.400
<v Speaker 5>Oh, I decided to call after the game because I

0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:32.839
<v Speaker 5>honestly believe that the Giants, I will believe they will

0:44:32.920 --> 0:44:34.839
<v Speaker 5>lose one hundred games for the next ten years.

0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 1>And I'm come on, lose one hundred games. We got

0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:43.759
<v Speaker 1>a buster voodoo dollar there? What are you doing?

0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:44.960
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:48.280
<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, this is the biggest buster voodoo doll I've ever created,

0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:51.800
<v Speaker 5>because think about he's gonna be gone. He's gonna be

0:44:52.600 --> 0:44:54.759
<v Speaker 5>and it's gonna take at least six years for these

0:44:54.800 --> 0:44:56.920
<v Speaker 5>players to come up and do what you guys want

0:44:56.960 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 5>to do. That's assuming that they developed them in they perform,

0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 5>which they won't. That guy they got from the Yankees

0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:06.200
<v Speaker 5>is a stiff. Jackson Florida dropped at number four because

0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:08.960
<v Speaker 5>his slider speed is off. That means the draft is

0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:11.680
<v Speaker 5>gonna be a bust. Those guys are not gonna perform.

0:45:11.960 --> 0:45:14.040
<v Speaker 5>They passed on all the hitters. There's not gonna be

0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:16.400
<v Speaker 5>hitters for the next ten years. And what are you

0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:19.279
<v Speaker 5>gonna do? How are you gonna You're digging yourself a hole.

0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:21.279
<v Speaker 5>How are you gonna dig yourself out of that hole?

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:23.520
<v Speaker 5>And then come up above all these other teams that

0:45:23.600 --> 0:45:26.719
<v Speaker 5>have their younger players getting experienced and getting better and better.

0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:29.400
<v Speaker 5>The Giants always believes that the other the rest of

0:45:29.440 --> 0:45:31.319
<v Speaker 5>the league stays the same, and then they're gonna get

0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:33.719
<v Speaker 5>better and then they're gonna win. They're crazy. This is

0:45:33.760 --> 0:45:37.160
<v Speaker 5>the curse of Buster Posey. It will live forever. People

0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:39.560
<v Speaker 5>will die before they have a championship. He said, we

0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:42.359
<v Speaker 5>make memories here. We make memories here.

0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:43.160
<v Speaker 4>Hitters hit.

0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:45.920
<v Speaker 5>We have the best left side of the infield in baseball.

0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:48.080
<v Speaker 5>Those were all lies. You have the worst left side

0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:49.960
<v Speaker 5>of the infield in baseball, and it costs you three

0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:52.480
<v Speaker 5>hundred and fifty million dollars. And then you got Devers

0:45:52.520 --> 0:45:54.680
<v Speaker 5>for another two hundred and eighty million, and you got

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:58.200
<v Speaker 5>Harrison Bader, and you got the Justin Verlan.

0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, they're not paying baby, going hold on, they're

0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:04.440
<v Speaker 1>not paying him. Okay, Mario, let me ask you this.

0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:07.560
<v Speaker 3>One thing I totally respect and love about Mario already

0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:09.560
<v Speaker 3>is the dudes got to take and the dude is

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:10.160
<v Speaker 3>just standing buy it.

0:46:10.360 --> 0:46:11.080
<v Speaker 1>And that's you know what.

0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:13.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't agree with you, Mario, but I'm good with

0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:15.840
<v Speaker 3>with you having your take in believing it. What I

0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:18.880
<v Speaker 3>would ask you is this, do you believe gms are

0:46:18.920 --> 0:46:22.080
<v Speaker 3>presidents of baseball? In any sport? Let's call it baseball

0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:24.239
<v Speaker 3>but for now, But in any sport? Do you think

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:27.840
<v Speaker 3>they're capable of changing who they are? Especially early in

0:46:27.920 --> 0:46:30.280
<v Speaker 3>Buster's tenure here, do you think they can change? Because

0:46:30.560 --> 0:46:33.120
<v Speaker 3>you have no idea. I have no idea if Buster's

0:46:33.160 --> 0:46:36.320
<v Speaker 3>capable of putting together a minor league system that can develop.

0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:39.520
<v Speaker 3>Because I'll tell you what, dude, I never thought for

0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:43.040
<v Speaker 3>a long time that Brian Sabian was capable of developing

0:46:43.160 --> 0:46:46.799
<v Speaker 3>talent until the end of the Bonds era, when all

0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:49.800
<v Speaker 3>they did was develop talent because they were not a

0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:52.400
<v Speaker 3>team that brought up young players that were of great success.

0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:54.520
<v Speaker 3>They were not a team that had tons of young pitching.

0:46:54.520 --> 0:46:57.040
<v Speaker 3>They would acquire it from other teams. They would acquire

0:46:57.080 --> 0:46:59.680
<v Speaker 3>fielders from other teams, and then they would become stables.

0:46:59.360 --> 0:47:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Like Ken, like Richard really who they brought up. But

0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:03.719
<v Speaker 1>there weren't a ton of guys like that.

0:47:04.160 --> 0:47:06.520
<v Speaker 3>So until that era, when Tim Let's come out here,

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:10.440
<v Speaker 3>Matt came down here, Buster Posey got here, Madison Bumgunder

0:47:10.480 --> 0:47:13.239
<v Speaker 3>got here, Joe Panic, Brandon Crawford, Brandon Belt, like, they

0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:15.640
<v Speaker 3>weren't developing tons of talent. Do you do you not

0:47:15.920 --> 0:47:18.600
<v Speaker 3>believe that a guy is capable of doing that? Because

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:21.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't think we've seen any We have not to

0:47:21.480 --> 0:47:24.960
<v Speaker 3>this point seen any player Buster Posey is drafted, So like,

0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:28.080
<v Speaker 3>how can you be so sure when we've seen a

0:47:28.560 --> 0:47:30.320
<v Speaker 3>season and change of a guy's system.

0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:31.359
<v Speaker 2>How could you be so sure?

0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:32.720
<v Speaker 1>How could you be so sure?

0:47:34.200 --> 0:47:38.880
<v Speaker 5>I'm positive? Is this because pos not developed talent? Because

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:42.000
<v Speaker 5>he is not a Billy Martin? That the information? Okay,

0:47:42.160 --> 0:47:44.560
<v Speaker 5>So these hitters in these minor league hitters are intellectually

0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:47.680
<v Speaker 5>dependent on him. The draft is intellectually dependent on him.

0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:50.480
<v Speaker 5>But he's deferring all this stuff to Zach Manasian and

0:47:50.560 --> 0:47:52.920
<v Speaker 5>the other troops, so he's really not doing any of

0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:55.040
<v Speaker 5>the filtering. That's how he's not going to be able

0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:57.759
<v Speaker 5>to develop all these players. And another thing, all those

0:47:57.800 --> 0:48:00.360
<v Speaker 5>players you develop, You're right, Brian Samian didn't developing in

0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:02.520
<v Speaker 5>those players. Brandon Crawford was ready made.

0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:05.640
<v Speaker 3>But hold on, hold on, hold on, No, he was not.

0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:08.520
<v Speaker 3>Bro hold on, now, I'm gonna stop you. Brandon Crawford

0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:12.160
<v Speaker 3>was ready made. Brandon Crawford was a defensive shortstop that

0:48:12.280 --> 0:48:14.480
<v Speaker 3>they drafted to be a defensive short stop. The guy

0:48:14.520 --> 0:48:16.680
<v Speaker 3>came up, ended up making multiple All Star teams, became

0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:18.919
<v Speaker 3>a guy who had multiple seasons of twenty home runs.

0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:22.000
<v Speaker 3>He was ready made. He went from rookie ball to

0:48:22.120 --> 0:48:23.000
<v Speaker 3>the majors over a.

0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:24.839
<v Speaker 1>Number of years. What do you mean he was ready made?

0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:27.840
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean, sod so, bron hold on, so.

0:48:27.920 --> 0:48:30.200
<v Speaker 3>Brian Saban couldn't draft a guy who was ready made

0:48:30.280 --> 0:48:31.600
<v Speaker 3>until Brandon Crawford showed up.

0:48:31.640 --> 0:48:33.879
<v Speaker 1>Is that what you're saying? Buster Posey was ready made?

0:48:34.080 --> 0:48:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Madison Bumguard was an eighteen year old a seventeen year

0:48:36.680 --> 0:48:38.839
<v Speaker 1>old when they drafted him in two thousand and seven.

0:48:38.880 --> 0:48:40.759
<v Speaker 1>He was the same grade I was in high school.

0:48:40.800 --> 0:48:42.799
<v Speaker 1>He turned eighteen in August of that year. He's four

0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:44.640
<v Speaker 1>months younger than I am. None of these guys were

0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:47.080
<v Speaker 1>ready made. Matt Cain was a high school pitcher.

0:48:47.280 --> 0:48:49.680
<v Speaker 3>Tim Linsekam was a guy who was drafted three times

0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:51.520
<v Speaker 3>and wouldn't go as high as he did because he

0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:54.279
<v Speaker 3>was a five foot nothing threw one hundred miles an hour.

0:48:54.320 --> 0:48:55.880
<v Speaker 3>They thought he'd break down, and he did with the

0:48:55.960 --> 0:48:58.840
<v Speaker 3>Giants capitalized on what he was capable of. You're not

0:48:58.920 --> 0:49:00.880
<v Speaker 3>gonna look at a player now and say, well, he

0:49:01.000 --> 0:49:03.680
<v Speaker 3>doesn't count, So you're gonna take away credit from Buster

0:49:04.080 --> 0:49:06.320
<v Speaker 3>when you haven't seen any of his results from anybody

0:49:06.360 --> 0:49:09.040
<v Speaker 3>he's drafted. But you're not going to give credit to Sabian. Also,

0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:12.360
<v Speaker 3>because you think that Brandon Crawford was ready made, Brendan

0:49:12.400 --> 0:49:15.000
<v Speaker 3>Crawford would tell you to your face he was not

0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:15.640
<v Speaker 3>ready made.

0:49:17.400 --> 0:49:19.840
<v Speaker 5>Well, the thing is, Brandon Crawford, I knew him and

0:49:20.239 --> 0:49:21.240
<v Speaker 5>he was seventeen years.

0:49:21.120 --> 0:49:21.920
<v Speaker 1>That's not what I asked you.

0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:23.719
<v Speaker 3>I don't care when you knew him I'm asking you

0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:26.239
<v Speaker 3>who else was ready made? And why don't you think

0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:28.840
<v Speaker 3>Buster is capable of developing talent when you've seen a

0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:29.600
<v Speaker 3>year in change?

0:49:30.640 --> 0:49:32.439
<v Speaker 5>Okay, Buster Posey was ready made?

0:49:32.520 --> 0:49:34.799
<v Speaker 1>Now he wasn't he was ready made?

0:49:34.880 --> 0:49:38.359
<v Speaker 5>How Florida State made him into a superstar. He would

0:49:38.400 --> 0:49:41.319
<v Speaker 5>not be anything. If he didn't go to Florida State,

0:49:41.360 --> 0:49:43.160
<v Speaker 5>he would have been nothing. He'd have been a fat

0:49:43.239 --> 0:49:44.040
<v Speaker 5>short stop. Is so?

0:49:44.360 --> 0:49:44.400
<v Speaker 6>So?

0:49:44.480 --> 0:49:44.920
<v Speaker 5>Then? So?

0:49:45.000 --> 0:49:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Then who's who's the best GM in baseball? Who do

0:49:47.000 --> 0:49:47.520
<v Speaker 1>you think.

0:49:48.920 --> 0:49:52.560
<v Speaker 5>Right now the best GM in baseball? Wow, that's a

0:49:52.600 --> 0:49:52.960
<v Speaker 5>good question.

0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:55.319
<v Speaker 1>How many? How a better question? How many GMS can

0:49:55.360 --> 0:49:56.400
<v Speaker 1>you name in baseball?

0:49:57.719 --> 0:49:59.520
<v Speaker 5>I can name all. I've met almost all of them, and.

0:49:59.640 --> 0:50:02.160
<v Speaker 1>They didn't name one named the best one?

0:50:02.200 --> 0:50:02.319
<v Speaker 7>Then?

0:50:02.400 --> 0:50:02.480
<v Speaker 4>Right?

0:50:02.520 --> 0:50:06.080
<v Speaker 5>Rand Brandon dom date, Okay, Dave Cavo said he wanted

0:50:06.120 --> 0:50:06.520
<v Speaker 5>me to work with.

0:50:06.640 --> 0:50:08.520
<v Speaker 1>David Cowell was the president of a team and he's

0:50:08.560 --> 0:50:12.040
<v Speaker 1>not even there anymore. Wrong, Give me another one, David

0:50:12.160 --> 0:50:15.120
<v Speaker 1>Forest days ago?

0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:16.920
<v Speaker 3>Give me another one. You named all of the ones

0:50:16.960 --> 0:50:18.640
<v Speaker 3>in but you know all the ones in baseball. You

0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:21.240
<v Speaker 3>named a dude who's not employed anymore in a former president.

0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:22.239
<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, give me another one.

0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:24.080
<v Speaker 5>How about John Moselek.

0:50:24.120 --> 0:50:27.120
<v Speaker 1>How about David John Mazeliak. Yeah, okay, so you've met

0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:29.600
<v Speaker 1>him and you know him, he's the best of baseball.

0:50:29.800 --> 0:50:33.560
<v Speaker 1>I met, I met Who's the best GM? And how

0:50:33.600 --> 0:50:35.000
<v Speaker 1>many rings does a J. Pereler have?

0:50:35.239 --> 0:50:37.640
<v Speaker 3>Who's the best GM in baseball? Because you clearly don't

0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:40.160
<v Speaker 3>value them? How do you guys if you think they're

0:50:40.200 --> 0:50:40.520
<v Speaker 3>who mey?

0:50:40.760 --> 0:50:42.200
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I'm just saying like, he's met all

0:50:42.239 --> 0:50:42.720
<v Speaker 2>these gms.

0:50:42.800 --> 0:50:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, where do you hang out, dude?

0:50:44.600 --> 0:50:44.640
<v Speaker 5>No?

0:50:44.840 --> 0:50:45.360
<v Speaker 1>No, I want to know.

0:50:45.480 --> 0:50:46.960
<v Speaker 3>I want to know who you think the best one

0:50:47.120 --> 0:50:50.239
<v Speaker 3>is and what they're what their good qualities are. How

0:50:50.280 --> 0:50:52.799
<v Speaker 3>do you gauge a GM by saying no, they were

0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:55.440
<v Speaker 3>ready made? Don't you get credit for drafting a guy?

0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:57.440
<v Speaker 3>By the way, Buster won the number one pick one,

0:50:57.480 --> 0:50:59.440
<v Speaker 3>the number two pick one, the number three pick one,

0:50:59.480 --> 0:51:01.440
<v Speaker 3>the number four pick. How are you gonna say that

0:51:01.560 --> 0:51:03.800
<v Speaker 3>this guy was ready made, had to go through years

0:51:03.840 --> 0:51:05.960
<v Speaker 3>of monorn League baseball before he got here, and that

0:51:06.080 --> 0:51:08.640
<v Speaker 3>he was he was ready made and you shouldn't get

0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:09.799
<v Speaker 3>credit for drafting him.

0:51:09.920 --> 0:51:10.960
<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about? Bro?

0:51:12.440 --> 0:51:12.960
<v Speaker 9>Oh mate?

0:51:13.000 --> 0:51:15.320
<v Speaker 5>You're you trying to say Ron Wotis helped Brandon.

0:51:15.480 --> 0:51:18.160
<v Speaker 1>I didn't say anything. You're the only person saying names. Brother,

0:51:18.280 --> 0:51:21.040
<v Speaker 1>you are the only guys saying names. I haven't brought

0:51:21.120 --> 0:51:22.560
<v Speaker 1>up a name. You came with a name.

0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:24.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm asking you to answer the question because you're naming

0:51:24.800 --> 0:51:27.200
<v Speaker 3>things as fact that are completely your opinion.

0:51:28.440 --> 0:51:31.200
<v Speaker 5>Okay, well, I'm gonna drop another name. Mike Martin made

0:51:31.280 --> 0:51:36.320
<v Speaker 5>Buster Posey. There, he made Cal Rawley, Okay. JD Drew, Stephen.

0:51:36.000 --> 0:51:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Drew, Stephen J. D Drew and Stephen Okay. JD Drew.

0:51:38.480 --> 0:51:40.759
<v Speaker 3>Who was the greatest college baseball player we'd ever seen

0:51:40.920 --> 0:51:42.960
<v Speaker 3>since like the great We thought he was gonna be

0:51:42.960 --> 0:51:45.080
<v Speaker 3>Mickey Mantle and he wasn't. So I guess the GM

0:51:45.200 --> 0:51:47.960
<v Speaker 3>of the uh who drafted the Cardinals, the Braves, whoever

0:51:48.120 --> 0:51:51.040
<v Speaker 3>was what team? Whatever team drafted you saying they ruined him?

0:51:51.080 --> 0:51:52.839
<v Speaker 3>Then he was ready made and they ruined him.

0:51:52.840 --> 0:51:53.319
<v Speaker 1>I guess right.

0:51:54.800 --> 0:51:56.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, And I didn't say any of what you claimed.

0:51:56.800 --> 0:51:59.520
<v Speaker 3>I was saying about Ron Wotis. So give me back

0:51:59.560 --> 0:52:02.080
<v Speaker 3>to who's the best GM in baseball?

0:52:02.440 --> 0:52:02.879
<v Speaker 1>Right now?

0:52:03.200 --> 0:52:05.440
<v Speaker 3>You named three guys. One of them was a president,

0:52:05.640 --> 0:52:07.400
<v Speaker 3>and two of them weren't employed anymore.

0:52:08.560 --> 0:52:08.840
<v Speaker 11>Okay.

0:52:08.960 --> 0:52:10.640
<v Speaker 5>I met Brian Cashman of the Yankees.

0:52:10.400 --> 0:52:12.359
<v Speaker 1>Her a call, dog, thank you for the call.

0:52:12.520 --> 0:52:14.120
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he lost me on the original point that they

0:52:14.120 --> 0:52:15.759
<v Speaker 6>would lose one hundred games the next ten years.

0:52:15.840 --> 0:52:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I just want to I just wanted to hand him

0:52:17.120 --> 0:52:17.520
<v Speaker 1>the shovel.

0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:19.680
<v Speaker 2>No, it's fair. I was like, you take the shovel.

0:52:19.760 --> 0:52:20.080
<v Speaker 1>You did.

0:52:20.239 --> 0:52:22.040
<v Speaker 6>I mean, he made some good points initially with the

0:52:22.120 --> 0:52:24.399
<v Speaker 6>Giants when it came to you know, why they would

0:52:24.440 --> 0:52:26.759
<v Speaker 6>lose one hundred games, But that's not happening. Like, what

0:52:27.200 --> 0:52:30.440
<v Speaker 6>is he Stephen Colbert in Kirby Enthusiasm, you shall lose?

0:52:32.560 --> 0:52:34.279
<v Speaker 1>I was like, dude, I love him there.

0:52:34.320 --> 0:52:37.640
<v Speaker 3>And finally, Cavil, the guy I saw at Connecticut Yankee

0:52:37.760 --> 0:52:38.160
<v Speaker 3>last week.

0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:40.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, are you talking? He's hanging out with GM's all

0:52:40.320 --> 0:52:40.560
<v Speaker 2>the time.

0:52:40.680 --> 0:52:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you hanging out with you?

0:52:41.719 --> 0:52:45.920
<v Speaker 2>I met Maziliak Okay, that was interesting.

0:52:46.000 --> 0:52:48.799
<v Speaker 1>I met. I said, who's the best? I met Cashman once?

0:52:49.160 --> 0:52:49.480
<v Speaker 1>All right?

0:52:49.560 --> 0:52:50.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah good.

0:52:50.360 --> 0:52:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Sure.

0:52:50.840 --> 0:52:52.920
<v Speaker 3>He's been winning a lot lately, a lot of rings

0:52:52.960 --> 0:52:56.319
<v Speaker 3>since O nine. And also, dud Judge was ready made.

0:52:56.320 --> 0:52:58.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't know why you're giving him credit. Yeah, Judge

0:52:58.239 --> 0:53:01.000
<v Speaker 3>was ready made. Let's go to Patrick and Sider for Cisco. Patrick,

0:53:01.040 --> 0:53:03.480
<v Speaker 3>I promise I'll be Oh no, he's gone, all right,

0:53:03.480 --> 0:53:06.239
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna wait. We gotta break again. Dan, you're being

0:53:06.360 --> 0:53:10.200
<v Speaker 3>real communicative dog? What was all get that other?

0:53:10.520 --> 0:53:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Danny? Why don't you tell me who the best at?

0:53:12.920 --> 0:53:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Did you start yelling at him? Start yelling at I

0:53:14.880 --> 0:53:16.320
<v Speaker 2>don't know all the gms.

0:53:17.640 --> 0:53:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, Camby are I'm not even mad. I'm I told

0:53:25.280 --> 0:53:26.799
<v Speaker 1>the her to keep that around. Iim I get that call.

0:53:26.960 --> 0:53:27.480
<v Speaker 2>That's a good one.

0:53:28.600 --> 0:53:31.319
<v Speaker 1>That was like, Yeah, Webb was great the other night against.

0:53:31.120 --> 0:53:34.040
<v Speaker 2>Uh play same team you played today?

0:53:34.120 --> 0:53:37.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and yesterday to eight away? Canvy are four and five?

0:53:40.320 --> 0:53:43.640
<v Speaker 3>Over to call dirty work on a Wednesday afternoon. I

0:53:43.680 --> 0:53:45.680
<v Speaker 3>don't know how many more breaks? Danny's just rolling him

0:53:45.680 --> 0:53:46.040
<v Speaker 3>out at you.

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<v Speaker 8>Copeland and Derek Poppa where no job is too dirty.

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<v Speaker 3>Leader Dirty work with y'all on a Wednesday afternoon, Adam Copeland,

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<v Speaker 3>d Pop, Danny done hanging out with you. I'm live

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<v Speaker 3>from the broadcast booth at Oracle partsill let you know.

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<v Speaker 3>The Dirty Work is sponsored by Redwood Credit Union for

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<v Speaker 3>at REDWOODCU dot org Look, I'm a big believer in

0:54:22.120 --> 0:54:25.960
<v Speaker 3>gms being judged or presidents being judged by the amount

0:54:25.960 --> 0:54:29.279
<v Speaker 3>of success that they're able to get from the team

0:54:29.320 --> 0:54:30.360
<v Speaker 3>that they put on the field.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>They're responsible for the acquiring of talent, for the drafting

0:54:34.360 --> 0:54:36.279
<v Speaker 3>of talent, for the developing of talent. I think a

0:54:36.320 --> 0:54:39.320
<v Speaker 3>lot of times we give credit to gms or presidents

0:54:39.360 --> 0:54:43.000
<v Speaker 3>of baseball, and mostly it's baseball. I mean, because it takes,

0:54:43.040 --> 0:54:45.279
<v Speaker 3>as I said, a long time for guys to reach

0:54:45.480 --> 0:54:49.439
<v Speaker 3>their potential. Right, Like in football, Kyle Shannon had showed

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<v Speaker 3>up in twenty seventeen, and I talk to you about

0:54:51.960 --> 0:54:54.239
<v Speaker 3>this all the time, Derek, that first press conference they

0:54:54.280 --> 0:54:56.360
<v Speaker 3>had where they had like eight guys up there on

0:54:56.480 --> 0:54:57.360
<v Speaker 3>the podium.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh we're up there.

0:54:58.600 --> 0:55:00.600
<v Speaker 3>They had you check up there. You're like good Win

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<v Speaker 3>Western Richburg. I mean that all kinds of guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember recom.

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<v Speaker 3>Minute for Kyle de Bick. These are the guys that

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<v Speaker 3>are gonna fit into my system. Then you draft. It

0:55:07.760 --> 0:55:09.920
<v Speaker 3>took a couple of years for dudes to work out.

0:55:10.280 --> 0:55:12.800
<v Speaker 3>In baseball, it takes amount of time. Also in football,

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<v Speaker 3>I always think it's a little bit ridiculous, not always,

0:55:15.960 --> 0:55:18.759
<v Speaker 3>not always ridiculous. Sometimes you act a guy after year

0:55:18.800 --> 0:55:21.000
<v Speaker 3>one and you're like, yeah, but you see something coming,

0:55:21.080 --> 0:55:22.719
<v Speaker 3>or you see a system and things get ripped down

0:55:22.760 --> 0:55:24.600
<v Speaker 3>and guy's development goes out the window.

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<v Speaker 1>And baseball it's a bit different.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys will take over an organization and Buster inherits all

0:55:29.040 --> 0:55:31.719
<v Speaker 3>of the talent or lack thereof that far Anxiety put

0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:32.320
<v Speaker 3>into the system.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, he brought in.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's going to take a number of years. But

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not the one saying that the number fourteen or

0:55:38.440 --> 0:55:41.760
<v Speaker 3>minor league system in baseball, that's evaluators, that's Baseball America.

0:55:42.239 --> 0:55:43.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm a firm believer that it's going to take a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of years before we actually see that talent hit

0:55:46.480 --> 0:55:48.839
<v Speaker 3>the field. The difference is that Farhun was here from

0:55:48.960 --> 0:55:52.439
<v Speaker 3>nineteen until two years ago. Right, that's a long time,

0:55:52.600 --> 0:55:55.200
<v Speaker 3>and we didn't see a lot come from his system,

0:55:55.320 --> 0:55:57.600
<v Speaker 3>And that was something I thought was gonna happen.

0:55:58.000 --> 0:55:58.120
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:55:58.280 --> 0:56:01.120
<v Speaker 3>I understood all of the the margin moves, all the

0:56:01.160 --> 0:56:03.440
<v Speaker 3>small moves, and I've actually not hated a lot of

0:56:03.480 --> 0:56:05.440
<v Speaker 3>the moves on the margins for Buster Posey this year.

0:56:06.400 --> 0:56:08.800
<v Speaker 3>It's the moves of magnitude of things that are supposed

0:56:08.800 --> 0:56:12.080
<v Speaker 3>to be tectonic plate moving moves that are supposed to

0:56:12.080 --> 0:56:15.000
<v Speaker 3>make a difference for the organization, And it's the margin

0:56:15.080 --> 0:56:17.359
<v Speaker 3>moves that can make you better, incrementally better than teams

0:56:17.400 --> 0:56:19.880
<v Speaker 3>that are also quality teams. The margins don't matter as

0:56:19.960 --> 0:56:22.239
<v Speaker 3>much when the meat and potatoes aren't doing what they're

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, That's where I'm at.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you're telling me that this isn't gonna work

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<v Speaker 3>because Buster doesn't know what he's doing and developing talent,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you know? How do you know? None of

0:56:33.320 --> 0:56:35.440
<v Speaker 1>us know? And to tell me that I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>or that you know and nobody else.

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<v Speaker 3>Does is outrageous because you're just giving an opinion.

0:56:41.840 --> 0:56:43.040
<v Speaker 1>You're preaching it as fact.

0:56:43.600 --> 0:56:47.279
<v Speaker 3>And there are gms and talent like Brian Sabian. In

0:56:47.360 --> 0:56:49.680
<v Speaker 3>twenty sixty there were people wearing and this was a

0:56:49.719 --> 0:56:51.680
<v Speaker 3>whole thing with Ralph on the air and Tom. There

0:56:51.760 --> 0:56:53.960
<v Speaker 3>was a fire Sabian dot com that was out there.

0:56:54.200 --> 0:56:56.320
<v Speaker 3>I remember seeing guys at the ballpark wearing shirts with

0:56:56.480 --> 0:56:59.200
<v Speaker 3>a cartoon face of Brian Zabian that said fire Brian Sabian.

0:56:59.400 --> 0:57:00.960
<v Speaker 3>Because we were any of the end of the Bonds

0:57:01.000 --> 0:57:05.200
<v Speaker 3>era and to that group of fans or that mindset then,

0:57:05.239 --> 0:57:07.719
<v Speaker 3>and I was not a big believer in that. But

0:57:07.840 --> 0:57:12.080
<v Speaker 3>at that point we hadn't seen an NLCS, they hadn't

0:57:12.120 --> 0:57:14.400
<v Speaker 3>been to a World Series. They'd been invested in the

0:57:14.440 --> 0:57:17.680
<v Speaker 3>Bonds era. But like Steph Curry, your job was to

0:57:17.720 --> 0:57:19.800
<v Speaker 3>put talent around the best player in the game or

0:57:19.800 --> 0:57:22.360
<v Speaker 3>the best player of the organization had seen. And that's

0:57:22.400 --> 0:57:25.560
<v Speaker 3>what Brian Sabian did. As soon as Brian Sabian's gone

0:57:25.720 --> 0:57:27.120
<v Speaker 3>or not gone, as soon as we know it's the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the Bonds era, what happens. Tim Moltagon came up,

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<v Speaker 3>Tim Moldzgabon, Berry, Bonds played together Bro from May until

0:57:33.200 --> 0:57:34.880
<v Speaker 3>September of that year. They were on the same team

0:57:34.920 --> 0:57:37.560
<v Speaker 3>in O seven. Brian Wilson was on the seven Giants,

0:57:37.720 --> 0:57:39.960
<v Speaker 3>played with Barry Bonds. I think people forget that they

0:57:40.000 --> 0:57:44.280
<v Speaker 3>were moving towards that generation three years prior to winning

0:57:44.280 --> 0:57:46.480
<v Speaker 3>a World Series. Matt Kine was here in two thousand

0:57:46.480 --> 0:57:49.400
<v Speaker 3>and five, he made his debut. He played with Berry

0:57:49.480 --> 0:57:52.840
<v Speaker 3>for three seasons. Right, So you've got to be willing

0:57:52.920 --> 0:57:55.480
<v Speaker 3>to look forward and say, all right, we've got a

0:57:55.560 --> 0:57:58.280
<v Speaker 3>vision for the future. I think now based on what

0:57:58.320 --> 0:58:01.200
<v Speaker 3>happened at the trade deadline. We've seen Buster has and

0:58:01.320 --> 0:58:04.000
<v Speaker 3>he told this as much, we've got to shift gears,

0:58:04.160 --> 0:58:07.400
<v Speaker 3>We've got to focus on that while also probably trying

0:58:07.440 --> 0:58:09.960
<v Speaker 3>to fix a two timeline system where I don't think

0:58:10.040 --> 0:58:12.960
<v Speaker 3>the talent on this team right now is incapable of

0:58:13.080 --> 0:58:17.280
<v Speaker 3>being a team that is competitive, far more competitive than

0:58:17.320 --> 0:58:19.360
<v Speaker 3>what we saw this year. But in my mind, you

0:58:19.560 --> 0:58:22.480
<v Speaker 3>do not compete in baseball if you can't pitch it.

0:58:22.880 --> 0:58:25.080
<v Speaker 3>It's the number one thing. I'd rather be a pitching

0:58:25.120 --> 0:58:27.320
<v Speaker 3>team than a hitting team eight days a week, because

0:58:27.320 --> 0:58:29.480
<v Speaker 3>you can win games like you won today, right, You

0:58:29.520 --> 0:58:31.840
<v Speaker 3>can win it two to one, and winning eight seven

0:58:32.040 --> 0:58:34.160
<v Speaker 3>is sometimes harder to do. You gotta keep scoring, and

0:58:34.200 --> 0:58:37.200
<v Speaker 3>you gotta keep runs off the board. Defense wins championships,

0:58:37.360 --> 0:58:39.600
<v Speaker 3>as they say in every sport, because it turns into

0:58:39.640 --> 0:58:42.920
<v Speaker 3>offensive opportunities. In baseball, that's not exactly the same, right,

0:58:43.000 --> 0:58:44.720
<v Speaker 3>Because you make a great defensive play, you don't get

0:58:44.720 --> 0:58:47.040
<v Speaker 3>a good field position, you don't get a transition bucket

0:58:47.080 --> 0:58:49.240
<v Speaker 3>out of it, but you do build momentum, and you

0:58:49.320 --> 0:58:52.080
<v Speaker 3>do shut down the opposition's offense, and you build momentum

0:58:52.200 --> 0:58:55.560
<v Speaker 3>for your offense. So it's a different situation. But I'm

0:58:55.600 --> 0:59:00.760
<v Speaker 3>a big believer in drafting and defense and pitching for

0:59:01.160 --> 0:59:03.480
<v Speaker 3>the future, and I'm to say that Buster is incapable

0:59:03.520 --> 0:59:05.520
<v Speaker 3>of that or is not able to do that, I

0:59:05.560 --> 0:59:06.560
<v Speaker 3>think is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I would agree. I don't think we can say that. No,

0:59:08.880 --> 0:59:10.680
<v Speaker 6>And let's not act like Buster is not gonna get

0:59:10.720 --> 0:59:13.000
<v Speaker 6>like a huge leash here. He's Buster posey. Some people

0:59:13.040 --> 0:59:14.640
<v Speaker 6>are saying like, well, he's not gonna be here, why

0:59:14.680 --> 0:59:16.680
<v Speaker 6>because he chooses not to. Yeah, I could see that,

0:59:16.800 --> 0:59:18.920
<v Speaker 6>but he's not gonna be fired, so he'll get plenty

0:59:18.960 --> 0:59:20.280
<v Speaker 6>of time to develop players.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's ridiculous to say that.

0:59:22.040 --> 0:59:22.160
<v Speaker 4>Now.

0:59:22.200 --> 0:59:23.200
<v Speaker 2>Could you question him and what.

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<v Speaker 6>He did this offseason, yes, absolutely, But as far as

0:59:25.840 --> 0:59:28.480
<v Speaker 6>what he'll do in the future, No, that's ridiculous. But

0:59:28.560 --> 0:59:31.720
<v Speaker 6>we should be able to criticize gms, especially when they

0:59:31.760 --> 0:59:34.680
<v Speaker 6>have press conferences yesterday or whatever it was, media zooms

0:59:34.760 --> 0:59:37.160
<v Speaker 6>and you give up a hypothetical though maybe you'll trade

0:59:37.200 --> 0:59:37.640
<v Speaker 6>away your.

0:59:37.560 --> 0:59:40.360
<v Speaker 2>Star athlete if he wants to have that conversation.

0:59:40.480 --> 0:59:42.440
<v Speaker 1>You're not talking, Steph Curry, are you? Oh? I am

0:59:42.640 --> 0:59:43.880
<v Speaker 1>you know I'm not hearing. I'm not hearing.

0:59:43.960 --> 0:59:46.440
<v Speaker 3>Mike Greer being like, yeah, dude, we'll listen and we'll

0:59:46.440 --> 0:59:48.240
<v Speaker 3>talk about it with Macklin because.

0:59:48.080 --> 0:59:52.520
<v Speaker 6>Uh, I gotta say, dude, I've not criticized Monk Michaelivy

0:59:52.560 --> 0:59:54.440
<v Speaker 6>Junior in a lot of things. He's in a hard position.

0:59:54.840 --> 0:59:57.960
<v Speaker 6>But that quote yesterday, like unprompted, Danny Amerman asked him

0:59:57.960 --> 1:00:00.840
<v Speaker 6>like about Steph Curry's future, but out of nowhere at

1:00:00.880 --> 1:00:02.480
<v Speaker 6>a left field to be like, now Steph wants to

1:00:02.520 --> 1:00:04.959
<v Speaker 6>have a conversation about, you know, being traded away.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have that conversation with him, and he's earned the

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<v Speaker 2>right to be granted that. Why would you say that?

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<v Speaker 2>What the hell would you say that? You don't need

1:00:11.720 --> 1:00:12.320
<v Speaker 2>to bring that up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now, I'm with you. I don't know what are

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<v Speaker 1>you talking about. I don't want to It almost sounded

1:00:17.400 --> 1:00:18.240
<v Speaker 1>and we'll talk more about it.

1:00:18.440 --> 1:00:20.800
<v Speaker 3>Almost sounds as though they were like greasing the skids

1:00:20.880 --> 1:00:23.600
<v Speaker 3>for Steph to request the trade, until.

1:00:23.680 --> 1:00:26.520
<v Speaker 6>Joe Lakeup went on Tim Kellacami's podcast and said no, no, no, no, no,

1:00:26.560 --> 1:00:27.640
<v Speaker 6>no no no a I'm not doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>No no, no, no no no.

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<v Speaker 6>So there's a lot of audio we'll get to, but

1:00:31.200 --> 1:00:33.760
<v Speaker 6>I think Joe went on Tim's podcast today to be like,

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<v Speaker 6>let me put out the fire a little bit eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Away, cambe our four one five eightyway five sixty seven

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<v Speaker 3>the number to call in text. We got this guy

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<v Speaker 3>who hit us on the YouTube chat.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, uh, the sports.

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<v Speaker 3>Leader in camby our YouTube video stream. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if it seekins or seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>Four all of seconds.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I bet you do, he says a side note.

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<v Speaker 3>I went into a local dispensary over the weekend. Yeah,

1:00:55.120 --> 1:00:57.400
<v Speaker 3>the dirty Work song was being played. Felt like I

1:00:57.520 --> 1:00:58.400
<v Speaker 3>was walking into heaven.

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<v Speaker 2>Helly, that's our audience, BA boy, I like you, dude, my.

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<v Speaker 3>Tablet down here, Danny, I can't find my charger while

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<v Speaker 3>we're in Sigmiquele. You know who's next on the on

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<v Speaker 3>the phone lines.

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<v Speaker 2>That's to Patrick in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick in San Francisco. You're on the sports lead. What's up, bro?

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<v Speaker 11>What's up?

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<v Speaker 7>Guys?

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<v Speaker 10>I'm gonna take the opposite track of Mario and his

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<v Speaker 10>fifty year old Billy Martin reference here. Have a little optimism,

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<v Speaker 10>all right?

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, me too. I'm trying to be more optimistic.

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<v Speaker 10>Bro. There's you can look twenty four months from now.

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<v Speaker 10>August of twenty twenty eight, There is a very good

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<v Speaker 10>chance if they keep playing like they are that Parks Harbor,

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<v Speaker 10>Gavin Kielin, and Johnny Level could be on the major

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<v Speaker 10>league roster, with Bryce Eldred's under team control and Casey

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<v Speaker 10>Schmidt in his first year of arbitration behind that. A

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<v Speaker 10>year after that could be Luis Hernandez and Joshua ar Gonzalez.

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<v Speaker 10>That seems to be a pretty solid foundation if we're

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<v Speaker 10>basing it on their current minor league production. Sure that's

1:02:03.440 --> 1:02:06.080
<v Speaker 10>some optimism for the future. Now you go back to

1:02:06.160 --> 1:02:09.040
<v Speaker 10>that Joe Lake up two track thing and who's blocking

1:02:09.320 --> 1:02:12.040
<v Speaker 10>and clogging up the infield. We all know who. I

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<v Speaker 10>think the hope for the next year or two is

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<v Speaker 10>somehow Chapman, Adamis and Devers can hopefully have bounce back

1:02:21.520 --> 1:02:24.440
<v Speaker 10>seasons and we can maybe get out of these contracts.

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<v Speaker 11>Somehow.

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<v Speaker 10>We'll have to pay him down. But I would encourage

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<v Speaker 10>for the optimism every Giants fan out there, if they

1:02:31.520 --> 1:02:36.080
<v Speaker 10>haven't already, go download the Minor League Baseball app and

1:02:36.160 --> 1:02:39.480
<v Speaker 10>I look at the box scores. There is hope for

1:02:39.560 --> 1:02:42.920
<v Speaker 10>the future. Thank you, guys, Love you guys. Billy Martin, really.

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<v Speaker 3>Billy Marten, Billy Marden, do you remember in a by

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<v Speaker 3>the way, just just uh you know, I'm a big

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<v Speaker 3>ocean's eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>Twelve, Yeah, twelve, not so much. I love Julia Roberts

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<v Speaker 2>is here.

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<v Speaker 1>She's playing how many of her?

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<v Speaker 2>Ridiculous? That was a choice, said Julia Roberts.

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<v Speaker 1>That test.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know who that is.

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<v Speaker 1>What the hell?

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<v Speaker 3>She looks just like Julia Roberts. You know, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>forget that the Night Fox. I don't need twelve. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>forget twelve. Okay, thirteen is great, Yeah, it's a perfect

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<v Speaker 3>it's good. You know how I feel about thirteen is

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<v Speaker 3>how I feel.

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<v Speaker 1>About the Hangover. If you eliminate two, one and three

1:03:18.960 --> 1:03:19.360
<v Speaker 1>are fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually never saw three. I was so turned off by two.

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<v Speaker 3>Three is a good sequel to two because it's a

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<v Speaker 3>virtual it's like sort of the same not the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But they didn't just try to put it in Thailand

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<v Speaker 3>and Bangkok, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>Has there ever been where a comedy had like three

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<v Speaker 6>great like movies? I guess Austin Powers that's about it.

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<v Speaker 3>See, I would would, just it's funny. In hindsight, I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't love three as much as I do now. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>come on, goal member, No, I like it better now,

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<v Speaker 3>but when it kept like I don't I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Sequel eight away came to our best.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the only one of my book that's comedic. Sequel

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<v Speaker 3>Are we going to Meet the Fox?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't say? Schindler's List two.

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<v Speaker 6>It's good, but it's not as funny electric boogloo.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not as funny as the first. Oh, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kidding you know what I mean on that one?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Godfather too, not quite as funny as.

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<v Speaker 2>The first one either.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>Got from the three is hilarious though, Sophia Coppola, she

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<v Speaker 6>makes me laugh.

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<v Speaker 3>Dying on the steps and all that du Yeah, get

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<v Speaker 3>Andy Garcia the yeah, uh just what I thought out

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<v Speaker 3>they pulled me back in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, I saw somebody and don't get back

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<v Speaker 3>to Oceans thirteen. OK, speaking of Pacino, I saw somebody

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<v Speaker 3>put out a video on Twitter earlier today. It was

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<v Speaker 3>a bootleg VHS of Heat, the original movie Heat, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's you could tell, it's like literally, it's like somebody

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<v Speaker 3>brought a video camera into a theater right in. Whenever

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<v Speaker 3>you hear that movie, you're talking about the audience reaction,

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, did you see this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when he when he screamed, she had a great ass.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, yeah, but you hear the whole crowd in

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<v Speaker 1>the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>How could you not laugh at that?

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<v Speaker 1>I laughed? Still you got your head all the way

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<v Speaker 1>up it.

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<v Speaker 6>And then Hank Kazaria like it's not scripted. He actually says, Jesus, he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Quoting gregor greg.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>But in Oceans thirteen and just back to Billy Martin,

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<v Speaker 3>remember in the Oceans movies, they've gotten names for all

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<v Speaker 3>the moves that they put on. So in like Ocean's Eleven,

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<v Speaker 3>they're looking for somebody and they end up getting at

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<v Speaker 3>Carl Reiner, who plays Saul. They said, we need the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest el Fitzgerald there is right, we need to have

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<v Speaker 3>all these names for it. Right, He's gonna play our

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<v Speaker 3>Elephantzgerald A sall will be a great one. In the

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<v Speaker 3>third one, when they screw over Saul, they steal his

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<v Speaker 3>hotel and all that. Willie Bank is the character and

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<v Speaker 3>it's al Pacino and the group of guys Danny Ocean's

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<v Speaker 3>eleven are talking about, well, what should we do to

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<v Speaker 3>get back at him? And he goes out of respect

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<v Speaker 3>because he's an old school guy. He shook Sinatra's hand,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's a cote amongst guys that shook Sinatra's hand. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>He goes, you got to offer him? And out it's

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<v Speaker 3>the Billy Martin. It's almost a second chance.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and Billy.

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<v Speaker 3>I always try to figure out what the meaning is

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<v Speaker 3>of the fake names they use for it. My understanding,

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<v Speaker 3>and just because I've seen the movie a thousand times,

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<v Speaker 3>I assume that Billy Martin is the second chance to

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<v Speaker 3>make it right. Because Billy Martin got fired by George

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<v Speaker 3>Steinberg three times. Right, that's the story, right, So fired

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<v Speaker 3>by Billy Martin three times?

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<v Speaker 1>He goes.

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<v Speaker 3>And then at one point, Danny Ocean George Kliney goes

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<v Speaker 3>to meet with alput you know, and he goes, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna give you a chance to make it right.

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<v Speaker 1>Give u what's his name?

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<v Speaker 2>Car now?

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<v Speaker 3>The other guy who steals a hotel from blanking, He goes,

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<v Speaker 3>give him his give him his half share, give him

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<v Speaker 3>his no, not talking about it's the dude Elliott Gould.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Elliott Gould.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm blaking on his name of oh the character

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<v Speaker 3>because he goes give him his half share. And then

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<v Speaker 3>at one point out of nowhere. You get, you get,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know going, is this a Billy Martin? I

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<v Speaker 3>pass if he was too dumb or too stupid, did

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<v Speaker 3>not know what was coming to him. But he knows

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<v Speaker 3>that Billy Martin is a second sho like that. I

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<v Speaker 3>like that reference better than I like Mario's reference to

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<v Speaker 3>Billy Martin.

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<v Speaker 6>No, it's code amongst the Vegas you know, it's it's elitist,

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<v Speaker 6>not even elites.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the guys who are in that crime community, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>connartist passed Rubin, that's his name anyway, the Billy Martin

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<v Speaker 3>and Ocean's thirteen Danny. Who's our next collar on the line?

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<v Speaker 2>Jonathan leaving the game?

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<v Speaker 3>Jonathan, Well, I bet he's long left because I'm looking

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<v Speaker 3>at seagulls now, Jonathan, you're on these sports leader, Hey.

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<v Speaker 10>What's up?

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<v Speaker 7>Coach with de pop love your should.

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<v Speaker 11>Thanks for letting me on.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, leave that game sitting in traffic on the way

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<v Speaker 9>home the.

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<v Speaker 11>Second So I'm obviously extra frustrated, but totally understand your

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<v Speaker 11>guys's view. I'm letting the young guys play it. That's

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<v Speaker 11>super exciting.

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<v Speaker 9>I just I do get a little frustrated with we're

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<v Speaker 9>all excited that a bunch of Pods they made all

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<v Speaker 9>these great moves at the trade deadline this year and

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<v Speaker 9>last year. But it's a little frustrated, and it's like

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<v Speaker 9>he's making those moves to get back to five hundred,

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<v Speaker 9>which you know, we fired farm On and Melvin for

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<v Speaker 9>being five hundred, and he's like trying to make up

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<v Speaker 9>for what he kind of is already best up, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>And I know that bunch of pod is he's god

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<v Speaker 9>as far.

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<v Speaker 11>As a player, right, I mean, that's that's a different thing.

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<v Speaker 11>But as a GM it's like, man, like we're we're

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<v Speaker 11>just trying to get back to normal, which normal apparently

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<v Speaker 11>it's five hundred, and it's like we're like, yeah, great moves,

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<v Speaker 11>but I mean that's all we're doing. It's getting back

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<v Speaker 11>to like being average. And it's just I thought he

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<v Speaker 11>was hired to like excel us to the next level,

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<v Speaker 11>not break us back to evening, if you know what

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<v Speaker 11>I mean. And sorry guys, but you know, thank you

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<v Speaker 11>for letting me on to the laid off leader kN

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<v Speaker 11>the art.

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<v Speaker 2>So no, I appreciate the laid off leader. That's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, better than who is that guy the A's had

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<v Speaker 1>who is that leadoff.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy is, oh, yeah, have a Ricky the greatest of

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<v Speaker 2>all time?

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<v Speaker 1>Do we have that call?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I was asking, like their current lead off.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was too if any.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, Jacob Wilf, who as you talking about

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<v Speaker 3>right now? And I was like he was like that

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<v Speaker 3>leadoff in of the A's had.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like Ricky.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like yeah, yeah, Ricky, oh yeah, Ricky. He's out

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<v Speaker 3>there smacking him out.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, you're right, you got.

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<v Speaker 2>It, Yeah, Ricky, let's rick up to these days.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, yeah, the Giants will have one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, nobody, nobody does. No, he's the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>lead off inter of all time.

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<v Speaker 6>No, but I mean I understand what he's saying, like, yes,

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<v Speaker 6>it's it's hard to say. Are these moves great? I

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<v Speaker 6>mean right now? Yeah, to set yourself up for success,

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<v Speaker 6>But we don't know, we have no idea. I mean, like,

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<v Speaker 6>are you saying, like they me these moves to get

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<v Speaker 6>back to five hundred in time or right now? Because

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<v Speaker 6>they're not going back to five hundred right.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you this right now, Buster, Posey's goal is

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<v Speaker 3>not to get to five hundred. Yeah, Buster, Posey's goal

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<v Speaker 3>is not he wants to blow past five hundred. His

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<v Speaker 3>goal last year was to finish in the playoff race

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<v Speaker 3>or in the postseason. I would be I think Buster

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<v Speaker 3>would tell you to your face and Derek, you know

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<v Speaker 3>I'm big on truth serum. I've always got vials of

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<v Speaker 3>it laying around. If Buster were to drink some of that,

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<v Speaker 3>some of that truth serum, it's more hooch than truth zerum.

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<v Speaker 3>Prison wine and my toilet if you in my but

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<v Speaker 3>it is, don't forget my toilet's it's nice, Derek. Remember, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>got that big shower.

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<v Speaker 2>The smurfs, the yeah whatever, this stirst of joy?

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<v Speaker 3>How many smurfs could I fit in the showers, the

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<v Speaker 3>free and the toilet apparently? Yeah, well that's that's a

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<v Speaker 3>little smaller room, but it is off the main forget

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<v Speaker 3>about We won't get into the dynamics enough from at home.

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<v Speaker 3>But the Buster Posy's goal is not to get to

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<v Speaker 3>five hundred. Buster Pos's goal is to make the postseason

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<v Speaker 3>and to compete for world titles. So to say, the

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<v Speaker 3>goal is to get back to the status quote. The

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<v Speaker 3>status quote unfortunately became five hundred, and Buster didn't want

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<v Speaker 3>that At all, he doesn't want mediocre. Buster wants to

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<v Speaker 3>be elite, right, So to say these moves are just

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<v Speaker 3>to get back to five hundred. If they got back

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<v Speaker 3>to five hundred next year, I don't think people are happy,

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<v Speaker 3>do you, Derek, I don't. I think we're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's better than last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just back to where we were when you took over.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not what's gonna make anybody happy, and that's not

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<v Speaker 3>what's gonna make Buster or this organization happen. No, it's

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<v Speaker 3>progress is turning the pit to that college point. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know that that's progress depending on how you get there.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, if you just compare it to what's going on

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<v Speaker 6>this season and say that Tony Vaitello mates tries as

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<v Speaker 6>a manager, then yes it is progress. But in the

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<v Speaker 6>grand scheme of things, what we've seen for the last

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<v Speaker 6>five or six years, No, it's still disappointing.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't think the goal is five hundred. But

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<v Speaker 3>I hear what he said, the goal. He made these moves,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, I think they underachieved this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Once you say, even with the roster they had.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was an underachievement, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Like even like I just even though they didn't add

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<v Speaker 3>to the bullpen, even though the rotation wasn't where we

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<v Speaker 3>hoped it would be, I can't help but feel like

1:11:00.680 --> 1:11:04.120
<v Speaker 3>this team underperformed even what we thought they were capable of,

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<v Speaker 3>which means I still have got some hope for next year.

1:11:07.120 --> 1:11:09.519
<v Speaker 3>And I think people will have lower expectations next year

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<v Speaker 3>because of what happened this season. But I do not

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<v Speaker 3>think that you should be in the mindset that Buster

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<v Speaker 3>Posey's trying to get back to five hundred, Buster Posey's

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<v Speaker 3>trying to make the playoffs. The goal is not next year,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, well, let's just get back to where we

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<v Speaker 3>were two years ago. That's that's not a way to

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<v Speaker 3>come about building a winning team.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he's not trying to do that.

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<v Speaker 6>That may be the case, but no, his end goal

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<v Speaker 6>is to get this team back in the memory making

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<v Speaker 6>business to win World Series.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what he wants to do. This may take longer

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<v Speaker 2>than anticipated.

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<v Speaker 3>Eight away came to our four one, five, five to

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<v Speaker 3>sixty seven. We got to take a quick break another one, Danny,

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<v Speaker 3>is anybody still on the liner, come and get into

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<v Speaker 3>some some sound from uh from around the sports world.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we're okay with Danny. We can do niners. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to niners. We doing niners. We're getting into Michael McDonald.

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<v Speaker 6>I'd say, let's let's let's save Mike McDonald's. Let's let's

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<v Speaker 6>get to this Joe Lake up in. Dun't leavey Sudi.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this McDonald sounds better.

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<v Speaker 3>Live up to it, all right, as much as five

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<v Speaker 3>and teas in it. Dude, let's get into this because

1:12:02.280 --> 1:12:03.280
<v Speaker 3>I think this is a big story.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>You got Mike Dunleavy yesterday saying, hey, you know, if

1:12:06.520 --> 1:12:09.160
<v Speaker 3>Steph Curry, if some team called for a trade, we

1:12:09.200 --> 1:12:11.240
<v Speaker 3>would ask Steph about it because he's earned that right.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, yo, yo, yo, why are you talking

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<v Speaker 3>about trading Steph? After you're like, hey, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>we took a lot of calls on a lot of players.

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<v Speaker 3>I cold called a lot of teams. I'm trying hard.

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<v Speaker 1>I just haven't succeeded.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm trying to.

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<v Speaker 3>That's maybe the most frustrating part of this away KMBR

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<v Speaker 3>is a number to call. Mike dunleyvy taking calls on

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<v Speaker 3>how he would go about trading Steph Curry. Why is

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<v Speaker 3>he even talking about this. We'll do it next.

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<v Speaker 1>On The Sports Leader, she got off great ass