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Speaker 3: This is the Wide World of Walt Ah. It's time
Speaker 3: for the segment that's sweeping the nation, The Wide World
Speaker 3: of wall where Walter grills us with some of the
Speaker 3: toughest questions in the sports world, then awards one point
Speaker 3: per question. I think those are the rules, but I
Speaker 3: don't even know, Walter, because I'm looking at your guests
Speaker 3: this right now and it says world Wide of walt
Speaker 3: Which one is it? Is it worldwide? Is it the
Speaker 3: wide world? What are we talking about this morning?
Speaker 4: That's you shouting out Curly's inability to type it out correctly.
Speaker 3: I should have known a misspelling or a mislabeling of
Speaker 3: a segment is all due to my guy John Joe
Speaker 3: Curly Well let's not get the rules backwards, lay it
Speaker 3: out for us. What can we expect, Walter?
Speaker 4: All right, it's the wide world of Waltz. Welcome in JD.
Speaker 4: What I'm going to do is I'm gonna read you
Speaker 4: a question. You guys will both have a chance to answer,
Speaker 4: and I award a point at the end, who ever
Speaker 4: has the most points. All right, but we are going
Speaker 4: to do it. Let's go ahead and do the first one.
Speaker 4: Trade deadline just happened, Derek Scoogle to the Dodgers school.
Speaker 4: Need I say anymore? Is this good or bad for baseball?
Speaker 4: Is it good or bad for baseball? The answers gotta
Speaker 4: be bad for baseball. Now, I don't know if I'm
Speaker 4: going as far to say it's ruined the game of
Speaker 4: baseball because this was a trade, not just a blanket
Speaker 4: overpaid by the LA Dodgers.
Speaker 3: But guess what that's coming soon. I'm guessing they're gonna
Speaker 3: work out a contract extension before the next potential CBA.
Speaker 3: Schooble's gonna get paid by the Dodgers, which could lead
Speaker 3: to a potential lockout. So this is all bad for baseball?
Speaker 3: How could this possibly be good for baseball? Walter, We're
Speaker 3: looking at the Dodgers trying to run off a three
Speaker 3: p This is absolutely bad for baseball and bad for
Speaker 3: Giants fans.
Speaker 5: JD.
Speaker 6: It's bad for.
Speaker 7: Baseball if twenty nine other teams are ticked off about it,
Speaker 7: and twenty nine other fan bases are ticked off about it,
Speaker 7: If you have that much negative energy, it's bad for
Speaker 7: the game. Now it's completely and fully legal within the game,
Speaker 7: and the Dodgers are very much within their right to
Speaker 7: be like, you know what, everybody.
Speaker 6: Else suck it right, you just did deal with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd say this last thoughts bad for baseball, good
Speaker 3: for the owners because they're not going to use this
Speaker 3: as a reason for a potential lockout and a salary.
Speaker 7: Again, you went, you went in an attempt to steal
Speaker 7: my point. Yes, I did to steal my thunder on
Speaker 7: the next point was going to be, which is, yes,
Speaker 7: the owners probably view it as good for baseball because
Speaker 7: it's going to give them exactly what they need to
Speaker 7: stop the game and and change the financials to essentially
Speaker 7: prevent them from themselves moving forward.
Speaker 4: Look at markets trying to steal the point, and JD
Speaker 4: caught on and defended it.
Speaker 3: JD gets the first point, kwa Z is able to
Speaker 3: swat it down. Well, hey, I'll end it on a
Speaker 3: positive note. Scooble, hold that L first start as a
Speaker 3: Dodger lost last night.
Speaker 4: You can't spell scooble without an L. See if you
Speaker 4: would have led with that, you would have got the point.
Speaker 4: Dodgers would have got a point to anybody. Want to
Speaker 4: throw that out, Doctor Fodgers. Careful lost the license?
Speaker 3: Careful, careful with that one. JD.
Speaker 6: No, but I think I.
Speaker 7: Have played this game at a different a different I think, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah yeah. A lot of moving parts here can
Speaker 3: be all right, Walter, what's next? All right, let's keep
Speaker 3: it moving and talk more trades. But from the Giants perspective,
Speaker 3: what grade would you give busher Posey on this year's
Speaker 3: trade deadline? You first, JD.
Speaker 6: I'll give him an A minus. I give my an
Speaker 6: a minus.
Speaker 7: I mean, by all accounts, he got a legitimate haul
Speaker 7: of of top end prospects in just about every one
Speaker 7: of these deals and flipped a reliever that I don't
Speaker 7: think the Giants wound up being all that high on
Speaker 7: in terms of the future. And Eric Miller, for somebody
Speaker 7: that was the fourth overall pick in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 7: it hasn't played a lot at the big league level
Speaker 7: that still could have the potential to be unlocked in
Speaker 7: mayor so I I think I think he did a
Speaker 7: really nice job considering this circumstances. I'm not going to
Speaker 7: give him a full blown A because I think he
Speaker 7: could have leaned in even harder on looking to move
Speaker 7: Logan Web, and I don't think it would have hurt
Speaker 7: as much as the perception of trading Logan Web would
Speaker 7: have hurt, right, because then then it's, oh my god,
Speaker 7: it's a full blown tear down to the studs. I
Speaker 7: think the Jung Huley opt out potential after twenty twenty
Speaker 7: seven is another reason. In hindsight, maybe I would have
Speaker 7: looked at moving him, But you can't necessarily trade everybody
Speaker 7: because you do need players to fool out the roster
Speaker 7: for next year and future years. So I'm not given
Speaker 7: the full blown A because of the unknown. And I'm
Speaker 7: not giving him the full blown A because I think
Speaker 7: he could have gone further. But I do think he
Speaker 7: gets at a minus because by all accounts on paper,
Speaker 7: he did as good as he could in terms of
Speaker 7: the prospects in the Hall that the Giants got back.
Speaker 3: You know, my gut reaction was also in a minus.
Speaker 3: But after I heard your answer and the fact that
Speaker 3: I want to steal the point, I'm gonna bump it
Speaker 3: up to an A because he didn't trade Logan Webb.
Speaker 3: But I'm glad that Webby is here to stay now.
Speaker 3: I do love the Hall of Prospects that he was
Speaker 3: able to get back. The one complaint I'm hearing on
Speaker 3: the streets of San Francisco Giants social media is that
Speaker 3: he could not unload the contracts of a Matt Chapman,
Speaker 3: of Willie Domins or maybe even possibly a Raphael Devers.
Speaker 3: But it takes two to tango. I think for the
Speaker 3: dance partners that they found, they got a great return.
Speaker 3: They got three legit pitching prospects, Romo Marquez from the
Speaker 3: Philadelphia Phillies, Henry Laloni from the New York Yankees, Miguel
Speaker 3: Mendez from San Diego. Then you throw in the seventeen
Speaker 3: year old shortstop that they got from San Diego. Also,
Speaker 3: Jeff Kent's kid is in down Kate and Kent, and
Speaker 3: you throw in Marcelo Meyer, who has a chance to
Speaker 3: maybe be the steal of this year's trade deadline for
Speaker 3: a bullpen arm going out.
Speaker 4: I'm giving him an A on my report card. Walter,
Speaker 4: the future is orange. I'm gonna go with I'm gonna
Speaker 4: go with Marcus. I think I think Busher did a
Speaker 4: really good job. So Marcus gets the point ty breaker
Speaker 4: here to end the segment. Makes you go ahead, Walter,
Speaker 4: make a quick get it in before before we gotta
Speaker 4: talk to Kruk. So let's go ahead. JD is trying
Speaker 4: to read or JD kady. JD might be trying to
Speaker 4: rewrite history. It's the point Katie is trying to rewrite history.
Speaker 4: So let's do some rewriting of ourselves. Which great Bay
Speaker 4: Area team should have won a title that you'd give
Speaker 4: it to?
Speaker 3: Ooh, I'll make this quick because we gotta go. It's
Speaker 3: got to be the forty nine ers recently. I know
Speaker 3: they've won five Super Bowl immersed lifetime. They haven't won
Speaker 3: Jack Squad in my lifetime. If I'm changing one thing,
Speaker 3: I'm changing Kyle Shanahan's decision with the coin toss in overtime.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's the butterfly effect, and that gets the forty
Speaker 3: nine ers of super Bowl.
Speaker 6: So we need to change a play, or we just
Speaker 6: need to change an outcome. Just what what team? Yeah,
Speaker 6: change the outcome that should have won a title. I'm
Speaker 6: losing the point here, it's I'm fumbling the bag.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like you're losing the segment two.
Speaker 6: This is good for me. It's the Niners. It's the Niners.
Speaker 7: Whether it's the harpball era, that team could have won
Speaker 7: three Super Bowls in eleven, twelve, and thirteen.
Speaker 6: The forty nine ers could have won in nineteen.
Speaker 7: Twenty one, twenty two, twenty three, twenty five, even keep going,
Speaker 7: all right, maybe not twenty five. Yeah, the Niners should
Speaker 7: have the sixth title. They probably should have seven or eight,
Speaker 7: but they should at least have six. I'm sick of
Speaker 7: quest for six.
Speaker 4: To break the tie, give me a specific year, specific
Speaker 4: year of the team.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the last Super Bowl trip when
Speaker 3: we're all in Vegas. I forget the year because I
Speaker 3: forget most of that week.
Speaker 7: Twenty three there it was. If you remember the year,
Speaker 7: you should get the point. JD takes the campaign.
Speaker 6: Maybe you don't get the point. I don't.
Speaker 3: JD gets the point. Jada gets the point.
Speaker 6: You remember the year.
Speaker 3: JD gets the point gets a segment?
Speaker 6: Do ja do you remember the team?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: One day? Was it on? I'm gonna say a Sunday.
Speaker 6: Give me a point for that one.
Speaker 3: Come on, it was a Sunday. It had to be
Speaker 3: Super Bowl Sunday.
Speaker 6: JAD wins.
Speaker 8: Well.
Speaker 7: By the way, you guys know what the Super Bowl
Speaker 7: this year is. It's to do about yea Valentine's Day.
Speaker 3: Ooh hi, controversial, controversial Valentine's Day super Bowl. Oh, that's busy.
Speaker 7: We get the President's Day holiday. I like that because
Speaker 7: it's the it's the third Monday is the fifteenth?
Speaker 3: I like that? Yeah, true, that is to be determined.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Can I call an audible and say I want to
Speaker 3: rewrite this segment so that I can change the history.
Speaker 3: I can finally get aways time. Yeah, exactly. We got
Speaker 3: to go. Mike Cruco next on the Trade Deadline and
Speaker 3: Blade didwell last night. It's Murph and Marcus with JD
Speaker 3: in this morning on the Sports Leader.
Speaker 6: There's no question we got the best in the group.
Speaker 1: That's why Murph and Marcus catch up with Kruk right now,
Speaker 1: right now on K and D R one oh four
Speaker 1: five and six am.
Speaker 3: All right, you know the routine. Every Monday, Wednesday and Friday.
Speaker 3: Right around seven thirty, we sit down for a baseball
Speaker 3: conversation with Mike Kruco. Mike, welcome back to the Murphy
Speaker 3: Marcus Show. Murph is on vacation once again, so it's
Speaker 3: John Dickinson filling in this morning. And I know we
Speaker 3: talked to you Monday morning right before the trade deadline.
Speaker 3: But a lot to catch up on with everything that's
Speaker 3: happened since then. But also what a game last night.
Speaker 3: Mike as Basabe and Bryce Eldridge tried to wield the
Speaker 3: Giants way back into that game last night. Unfortunately it
Speaker 3: ends with a young who Lee misread on the warning track. Mike,
Speaker 3: your reaction to last night's game and good morning.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Good morning, John, Welcome to the show. Yeah. I
Speaker 5: like last night's game for a lot of reasons. I mean,
Speaker 5: number one and the Oki well, I mean I've always
Speaker 5: been intrigued by this guy because he's a bull and
Speaker 5: he's got some attack to him. I like attack. I
Speaker 5: don't like nibble, and I think people really climb the
Speaker 5: in the eyes of the organization, in the eyes of
Speaker 5: the fan base. In regard to credibility when they when
Speaker 5: they attack, nobody wants to see somebody go out there,
Speaker 5: ball on ball to nibble nibble, nibble nibble. And and
Speaker 5: I love the fact that he got after it. The
Speaker 5: other thing too, I thought it was really significant about
Speaker 5: his outing is he got down to nothing in the
Speaker 5: first inning, and you can understand, you know, he was
Speaker 5: probably you know, far away from the comfort zone. A
Speaker 5: lot of a drillinge going and uh and that's when
Speaker 5: you get a lot of a drilling going, it's really
Speaker 5: hard at times to handle your concentration. It can go
Speaker 5: out the door because you're thinking about all the people
Speaker 5: you represent, You're thinking about the people you don't want
Speaker 5: to screw up in front of, You're thinking about so
Speaker 5: many things that are kind of productive to you. But
Speaker 5: to be able to find your focus like he did
Speaker 5: and put up four zeros and go through five innings
Speaker 5: and allows just those two runs in the first inning,
Speaker 5: I thought that was that was really good. I thought that,
Speaker 5: you know this, that's that's an outing that he can
Speaker 5: be proud of and can build on. The Other about
Speaker 5: the game that I really liked was well, you know,
Speaker 5: and you know they're down and they got Lutch the
Speaker 5: hard you know, the left who's got one of the
Speaker 5: best sliders in the game. And who they threw up there.
Speaker 5: They threw three left handers up there. Gilbert down on
Speaker 5: O two County goes the Apps away base. It lead
Speaker 5: off and get a man on and then Grant mccraig
Speaker 5: comes in and he gets a a walk. What a
Speaker 5: grated bat. And then there's a you know, a wild
Speaker 5: pitch and they get over the second third and then
Speaker 5: they here comes here comes Bryce Eldridge and he knocks
Speaker 5: him in, and now we got a tie ball game.
Speaker 5: I thought that was really cool because of the fact
Speaker 5: that Lutz just eats left handers for breakfast, and here's
Speaker 5: three young left handed hitters and they had grinding, productive
Speaker 5: at bats, and the Giants got back in that game,
Speaker 5: and at that point time I thought they were going
Speaker 5: to win the ball game. Didn't happen that way. But
Speaker 5: there were a lot of significant things happening for young
Speaker 5: players in yesterday's game that I thought were fantastic.
Speaker 7: How much can the infusion of whether it's young players
Speaker 7: are just players that maybe have bounced around and haven't
Speaker 7: had opportunities at the big league level, how much can
Speaker 7: that just infuse a team with with energy at at
Speaker 7: what's obviously a difficult part of the season, considering the
Speaker 7: way everything went down on Monday.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean it changes the dynamic certainly, But you
Speaker 5: do have the three anchors. I mean, I mean, you've
Speaker 5: got guys in the in that lineup that are you
Speaker 5: know there are you know, Jung Huli and Raphaeldevers and
Speaker 5: William Donalds are there pros. So that's those that's your base,
Speaker 5: that's your foundation right there. And everybody else comes in
Speaker 5: and they're a bit disoriented with all that has happened
Speaker 5: the wind tour, and now of a sudden, you see
Speaker 5: you guys come walking in and it changes the whole
Speaker 5: dynamic of the room. Everybody. I know, there's that period
Speaker 5: where you're looking around this guy, good guy? You know?
Speaker 5: Is he not a good guy? Is he does he work?
Speaker 5: I mean what? So you're learning the team and here
Speaker 5: we are with two months left in the season. So
Speaker 5: I mean, that's always one of the major distractions of
Speaker 5: the trade deadline. But you know, I thought that their
Speaker 5: first game when they came together on the first game
Speaker 5: of the series, behind a spirited out and from Logan Web,
Speaker 5: I thought that was a tremendous game given the amount
Speaker 5: of distraction that they had to overcome. But I thought
Speaker 5: that they played well. It came back twice and last
Speaker 5: night's game, and I think that that has everything to
Speaker 5: do with finding a little calm uh and it may
Speaker 5: have been found during the course of the ball game itself,
Speaker 5: But I like, what what what what happened when you
Speaker 5: know the fact that they were able to come back
Speaker 5: twice with new guys, Usabi coming up with a two
Speaker 5: on Homer time. I mean, those are big deals. So
Speaker 5: the more that those young guys have success, the more
Speaker 5: that the new guys have success, the easier it's going
Speaker 5: to be to go to work and you know, kind
Speaker 5: of nestle in and feel like you belong and that
Speaker 5: there's a harmony within the clubhouse. So that's what's at
Speaker 5: stake right now. But I think so far they passed
Speaker 5: tests in a big way.
Speaker 3: Mike Blade saidwell, was one of the players that the
Speaker 3: Giants got in returned last year at the trade deadline
Speaker 3: in the Tyler Rogers trade to the New York Mets. So,
Speaker 3: circling back to this year's trade deadline, were there any
Speaker 3: big prospects that maybe stood out to you in any
Speaker 3: of these packages with the Giants trading six active players
Speaker 3: off the major league roster, but if not, just your
Speaker 3: thoughts on the overall direction and the messaging of Buster
Speaker 3: Posey bringing in some of these prospects and trading away
Speaker 3: major league talent.
Speaker 5: I can't remember a time in since I've been with
Speaker 5: the Giants, and that goes back to nineteen eighty two
Speaker 5: where there has been this many prospects that have reputation
Speaker 5: come into the organization after a trade deadline. This was
Speaker 5: a hall and you know, I haven't seen all these guys.
Speaker 5: I've just I've just heard a lot about these guys,
Speaker 5: and until I actually see them on video, you know,
Speaker 5: I'm not going to formulate any any creditible opinion. I mean,
Speaker 5: I just don't pass something on unless I see it.
Speaker 5: But I I from what I hear and from what uh.
Speaker 5: You know, you're looking at the rankings and the rankings
Speaker 5: now with the way that that the minor leagues are
Speaker 5: ranked and prospects are ranked, I mean that that's I
Speaker 5: think it's incredible help to organizations as they go evaluate.
Speaker 5: Uh and during the weeks in a certain day of
Speaker 5: the trade deadline, I mean, they it's become a whole
Speaker 5: lot easier just because of that. There's so much information
Speaker 5: regarding prospects throughout every every organization. Based on all that,
Speaker 5: I think they did extremely well. They brought back some
Speaker 5: some just raw talent. There's there's other guys who are
Speaker 5: strike throwers with great stuff. There's uh other guys who
Speaker 5: are funky that you know, are six seven and they
Speaker 5: throw left handed with a low th recorder and they
Speaker 5: you know, they can hit high nineties. I mean everything
Speaker 5: I hear about these guys is so intriguing that in
Speaker 5: you know, in the next week's I really am looking
Speaker 5: forward to being able to go back into YouTube and
Speaker 5: bringing up some of these little little blips of what
Speaker 5: they can do. But I think they did extremely well.
Speaker 7: When you look at Tidwell, going back to him, what
Speaker 7: you know, the opportunity that he has in front of
Speaker 7: him and others Carson wizen Hunt today.
Speaker 6: To earn spots on this team.
Speaker 7: Like, what do you think of the way that he's
Speaker 7: transitioned from you know, somebody that now is projected as
Speaker 7: a starter. We saw him as a reliever earlier in
Speaker 7: the year and sort of doing that in season.
Speaker 5: Well, let's talk about Tidwell first when I first saw him,
Speaker 5: you know, I talked about the attack right. One thing
Speaker 5: he learned when he first got here was Okay, the
Speaker 5: attack part is really good. I've got stuff that can
Speaker 5: play here. I need to improve on my location, and
Speaker 5: I think that was one of the big things that
Speaker 5: he did in last night's ball game that I thought
Speaker 5: was different than the previous times that I saw him.
Speaker 5: Before I saw him, he had good stuff and he
Speaker 5: wasn't afraid to throw it up there. But you know,
Speaker 5: location is essential up here. Mean, these are big league hitters.
Speaker 5: You have to be able to locate. So I thought
Speaker 5: that he really made a nice forward taking the ball
Speaker 5: yesterday and locating better. In regards to Wizard Hunt, Uh,
Speaker 5: your Wizard Hunt is still learning. And you know he
Speaker 5: showed up with three pitches. He's got one grip on
Speaker 5: the fastball. He's got to change up and to break
Speaker 5: the ball, go get him. What he has to learn
Speaker 5: and where his growth is going to come quickly is
Speaker 5: new grips. Now they that's the one thing you learn
Speaker 5: up here at the big league level. You learn what
Speaker 5: other guys on your staff are doing. How do they
Speaker 5: grip the ball? How do they hold the sinker? You
Speaker 5: can hold a sinker to fourteen different ways. You can
Speaker 5: hold a change of fourteen different ways. Well, which grip
Speaker 5: is best suited for you? What? What? What grip is
Speaker 5: best suited for your your arm squat and and the
Speaker 5: way that you pronate through the ball. How do you
Speaker 5: turn the ball over? How the maximized movement that runs
Speaker 5: away from a right handed hit or if you're with
Speaker 5: ing not well, you've got to throw a two seamed
Speaker 5: fastball right now, he's throwing a course seamer. Now he
Speaker 5: throws it well, and he can pitch inside the ridings.
Speaker 5: I love that. But there's there's an area of growth
Speaker 5: here that you know he needs to catch hold of
Speaker 5: and learn how to apply, because you know that's how
Speaker 5: he's going to grow and get better. So I like this.
Speaker 5: I like the foundation on both guys.
Speaker 6: I do.
Speaker 5: I do believe that you know, given enough innings and
Speaker 5: and enough instruction, that they'll be able to go out
Speaker 5: there and uh and get better. And I think they
Speaker 5: get better in a hurry. I like the athleticism of
Speaker 5: those guys. That's the other thing you look at. Look
Speaker 5: at a guy's feet, How does he move? How does
Speaker 5: he feel as a position, how does he hold runners
Speaker 5: on like going on out there. You've got to be
Speaker 5: able to control the rhythm of the runner. You've got
Speaker 5: to be able to control the rhythm of the of
Speaker 5: the hitter. You have to control your own rhythm. And
Speaker 5: I would never forget the Hermit Franks, who my first
Speaker 5: manager said, if you're going to be a pitcher in
Speaker 5: the big leagues, it's just like being a traffic cop
Speaker 5: at rush hour on Michigan Avenue Chicago. You have to
Speaker 5: be in control of everything, and that's what these guys
Speaker 5: are learning. Mike.
Speaker 3: It was no surprise to see guys like Luisa Rise,
Speaker 3: Robbie Ray, and even Tyler Mallley traded away at this
Speaker 3: year's trade deadline with them being on expiring contracts. But
Speaker 3: one guy I wanted to ask you about was Elliott Ramos,
Speaker 3: who was one of the last trades that the Giants
Speaker 3: made right before the trade deadline. He was a guy
Speaker 3: that still had team control, was a homegrown kid, first
Speaker 3: round draft pick, had a breakout year a couple of
Speaker 3: years ago, and went to the All Star Game. Your
Speaker 3: thoughts on trading away a bet and a homegrown prospect
Speaker 3: like Elliott Ramos and what that message kind of since
Speaker 3: the clubhouse in the organization.
Speaker 5: Well, I was surprised by that, but I guess, you know,
Speaker 5: we really shouldn't be, because they said they were shopping everybody.
Speaker 5: And I think that the package that the Yankees gave
Speaker 5: him was was one that they felt was something they
Speaker 5: couldn't they couldn't refuse. And I wish Shellia ra almost
Speaker 5: nothing but the best. And he's one of those guys
Speaker 5: that I'll be following every time I get the box
Speaker 5: scorers of you know, last night's score, I'm going to
Speaker 5: go right to the Yankees to see how he did.
Speaker 5: I mean, he went took an over four yesterday that
Speaker 5: he hit fourth, you know. And I don't think I
Speaker 5: don't think he's come close to the ceiling yet. I
Speaker 5: think he can be a player that can be a
Speaker 5: perennial All Star. But you know, when you're making a transition,
Speaker 5: you can't make a move like that unless you have
Speaker 5: a belief that you have somebody to fill his shoes
Speaker 5: and uh and I do believe they think they have
Speaker 5: that in Arracoto. And there's other intriguing outfield prospects. There
Speaker 5: are other guys who will be given an opportunity, maybe
Speaker 5: even this year. So I think from the prospects of
Speaker 5: building up your your minor league system and h and
Speaker 5: being excited about some of your existing prospects, I think
Speaker 5: this is exactly what this whole trade represents.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's no question about that. Gihnts have definitely
Speaker 3: restocked their farm system over the last season, including the
Speaker 3: trade deadline, and even go back to the draft this year. Now,
Speaker 3: you mentioned one of the players in return for Elliot
Speaker 3: Ramos Henry Lalani, the left handed pitcher from the New
Speaker 3: York Yankees, but they also got a familiar name, Kadi
Speaker 3: and Kent, the son of Jeff Kent. And regardless of
Speaker 3: what the scouting report is, Mike, it's pretty cool that
Speaker 3: the Giants have a Kent and a Bonds both back
Speaker 3: in the organization.
Speaker 5: Well, I followed him when he was a Texas A
Speaker 5: and m They had a coach down there by the
Speaker 5: name of Jason Kelly, who my son played ball with
Speaker 5: and one of his best friends. And Jason Kelly loved him.
Speaker 5: And the one thing that he talked about was work ethic.
Speaker 5: He says, you can't outwork the guy. He's as tough
Speaker 5: as nails and and he works hard. Well, I mean
Speaker 5: some kind of reminds you of somebody we heard of,
Speaker 5: didn't it, And a lot of similarities to his father,
Speaker 5: and in his makeup and approach going to the game.
Speaker 5: It's all business. And you know, we high draft pick
Speaker 5: out of Texas A and M. You know, it's a
Speaker 5: big program, so there's lots of expectations. So hopefully he
Speaker 5: gets to the where he climbs the ladder and we
Speaker 5: see him in the big league someday because it would
Speaker 5: be a great story.
Speaker 7: How impressed have you been with a Sabe. I mean,
Speaker 7: he's not afraid to swing it, and he's got some pop.
Speaker 5: I've been impressed with his bats. I haven't been that
Speaker 5: impressed in the field yet. Fair you know, a couple
Speaker 5: of things that he has to, uh, you know, be
Speaker 5: aware of. He's got to speed up his game, and
Speaker 5: and that that just the defensive game. He had a
Speaker 5: series he had in San Diego and there were a
Speaker 5: couple of instants there where he just didn't react to
Speaker 5: the speed of the game. So you know that that's
Speaker 5: something that you got to work on and that just
Speaker 5: takes reps. But what he does have is he's got,
Speaker 5: he's got bat speed. He turns around one hundred mile
Speaker 5: an hour fastball and above the hands, middle end against
Speaker 5: Mason Miller, and everybody in my room we were watching
Speaker 5: kind of looked around and nobody said a word, but
Speaker 5: a lot of eyebrows were raised, like, okay, you know
Speaker 5: that you do that one time against Mason Miller, and
Speaker 5: the all of baseball who was probably watching that game,
Speaker 5: they kind of, well, that guy getting hit a fastball,
Speaker 5: maybe we better do the pitch him with something out
Speaker 5: because once you hit the premier fastball in baseball, it's
Speaker 5: established you've got credibility. And I think is that bats
Speaker 5: a bit exciting? And he's surely not afraid of the moment.
Speaker 5: I mean he's not afraid to leave the yard, not
Speaker 5: afraid to hit down on the count or down in
Speaker 5: the in the score. I mean he's got some big,
Speaker 5: good bats where he's brought his team back with the
Speaker 5: long ball.
Speaker 7: Or or against Mason Miller, or against Mason Miller, who
Speaker 7: nobody's touched for like a year.
Speaker 5: He hit that ball. I got one hundred nine miles
Speaker 5: an hour, the hardest ball hit off of Mason Miller,
Speaker 5: and he pulled it. That's the other things. It's one
Speaker 5: thing to hit a hundred and three when you're pulling
Speaker 5: it off the wall to one on nine that just
Speaker 5: you know, it gets you a lot of job offers.
Speaker 3: Mike's speaking a defense one to end it on a
Speaker 3: Matt Chapman update, because we haven't seen the Platinum Gold
Speaker 3: Glove winner in quite a while. He's been dealing with
Speaker 3: an abdominal strain. Now, there was an update yesterday that
Speaker 3: he's gonna fly out the Philadelphia to see a specialist
Speaker 3: to see how severe that injury is, and Tony vide
Speaker 3: Tello says there's a chance that we don't se him
Speaker 3: again the season. Now, I'm assuming that Matchapman wants to
Speaker 3: get back on the field, but with the way this
Speaker 3: season has played out, maybe it's not the worst thing
Speaker 3: in the world that they shut down Matt Chapman to
Speaker 3: give some of these opportunities to some of these young
Speaker 3: guys around the Diamond.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean it's unfortunate that not only he
Speaker 5: goes down, but Casey Schmid goes down. I mean, that's
Speaker 5: that's a double thud, and it's killing both these guys.
Speaker 5: You know, they're they're they're don't do well on the
Speaker 5: bench watching the game. But you know, I don't trust
Speaker 5: core injuries. You know, you have enough dominal injury, or
Speaker 5: you have an oblique injury. I mean, you can throw
Speaker 5: hamstrings in there, any big muscle. It just seems like
Speaker 5: it's worse than a broken bone because you can't fully
Speaker 5: really believe that it's completely healed up within the timeframe.
Speaker 5: But you want to get it healed up. And this
Speaker 5: is this is not responding. And I mean we watched
Speaker 5: them take batting practice in San Diego. I thought it
Speaker 5: was a pretty good session, but then he was having probably, well,
Speaker 5: if you can run, you can't play defense. You can't
Speaker 5: I mean, you can't play baseball. And so there's more
Speaker 5: to what's going on, and it might even wind up
Speaker 5: in a small surgical repair type of thing. And so
Speaker 5: that happens that he's now for the rest of the year,
Speaker 5: and that's awful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see what happens with Matcha've been moving forward,
Speaker 3: and let's see what happens today with the Giants in
Speaker 3: the final game of the series out in Texas, eleven
Speaker 3: thirty five. First pitch today with Carson Wison Hunt back
Speaker 3: on the bump, Mike appreciate your time this morning, and
Speaker 3: we'll talk to you on Friday. There he is Mike
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Speaker 8: been you know, the focus of defenses when we play them.
Speaker 8: I'm sure I still will be. But if they worry
Speaker 8: about me too much, you know, we got all the
Speaker 8: guys that you mentioned, and that's why I'm super excited
Speaker 8: for the season to see how we all put it
Speaker 8: together and see what defenses are gonna do, who they're
Speaker 8: gonna pick to focus on because we have so many guys,
Speaker 8: And that's another big reason why I came here.
Speaker 3: The voice of future Hall of Fame Mike Evans live
Speaker 3: with the Murph and Marcus Show this past Monday down
Speaker 3: at Levi Stadium, and you are listening to cambyr AM
Speaker 3: and cambyr FM, San Francisco. The Sports Leader, a Cumulus
Speaker 3: Media station. Really enjoyed our sit down conversation with Mike Evans.
Speaker 3: If you missed any of that interview, you can check
Speaker 3: out the podcast on cambar dot com or wherever you
Speaker 3: download your cambr podcast. The one problem is JD. We
Speaker 3: didn't ask him about his quad during that interview because
Speaker 3: Mike Evans later that day did sit out practice with
Speaker 3: a tai quad now. Ian Rappaport yesterday on NFL Network
Speaker 3: clarified that the forty nine Ers do not view this
Speaker 3: as a serious issue, which is great news for this
Speaker 3: forty nine ers wide receiver room that looks a lot
Speaker 3: different than it did just a few days ago. We
Speaker 3: got the news over the weekend that Ricky Piersaw is
Speaker 3: done for the season, having surgery on that PCL injury
Speaker 3: on the same knee that he injured last season, which
Speaker 3: led to the forty nine Ers bringing in Deebo Samuel
Speaker 3: last Friday. Now, JD, I know you were down at
Speaker 3: Levi Stadium last Friday. We were there on Monday, so
Speaker 3: I had the opportunity to see nineteen problems back in action.
Speaker 3: Were there any sightings of Debo? Were you right behind
Speaker 3: George Kittle giving him a hug when he hopped out
Speaker 3: of the car.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I didn't see him on Friday when I was
Speaker 7: down there. I did see him on the practice field Saturday.
Speaker 7: I did hop down to practice on Saturday, so that
Speaker 7: was the debo day and it felt like it felt
Speaker 7: like a Deebo showcase practice. They had I think eight,
Speaker 7: eight or nine passes or plays for him and the
Speaker 7: fans were there and kind of kind of getting into
Speaker 7: it with the site of debo back on the practice field.
Speaker 7: So it makes a lot of sense that the one
Speaker 7: concern I have is and we discussed this in our
Speaker 7: time together over the last couple of weeks. I like
Speaker 7: the idea of debo as more of a luxury item
Speaker 7: as opposed to a necessity. And given the state of
Speaker 7: the wide receiver room and Ricky Piersall being done for
Speaker 7: the year and stribbling concerns there and Evans, even if
Speaker 7: they're minor concerns with some of those injuries, I feel
Speaker 7: like Deebo's very quickly getting bumped up as much as
Speaker 7: he's a great fit to necessity need this guy now
Speaker 7: to be a major factor, and I don't know that
Speaker 7: that's necessarily the best position for him and for the
Speaker 7: forty nine ers to be the most successful.
Speaker 3: No, I think the ideal role for Deebo Samuel is
Speaker 3: to be that gadget guy, and maybe even more to
Speaker 3: an extent of what we saw in his previous stint
Speaker 3: with the forty nine ers. They want to use him
Speaker 3: as a kick returner, they want to get him involved
Speaker 3: in the backfield, all things that we've seen before. But
Speaker 3: you're right they might have to rely on him more,
Speaker 3: but they're also not relying on him as a twenty
Speaker 3: million dollar wide receiver anymore, because, let's be honest, Deebo
Speaker 3: Samuel did not show that version of himself last year.
Speaker 3: What the Washington Commanders now, maybe he can't bring back
Speaker 3: some of that yack element that was missing from this
Speaker 3: forty nine Ers offense last year. But some interesting contract
Speaker 3: details that came out yesterday, Deebo Samuel only has a
Speaker 3: guaranteed base salary of three point two seven million dollars.
Speaker 3: Now that contract can get upwards the seven million dollars
Speaker 3: including incentives, which means to me, if Deebo Samuel earns
Speaker 3: that seven million dollars this year with these incentives, then
Speaker 3: he was worth every single penny this offseason. This seems
Speaker 3: like a great deal and a great fit becking his
Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan's system and a problem that the forty nine
Speaker 3: Ers needed to address, and here's nineteen problems back in
Speaker 3: red and gold.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think they're going to get a motivated Deebo Samuel.
Speaker 7: They're going to get an in shape Deebo Samuel, which
Speaker 7: at times maybe they didn't have toward the end of
Speaker 7: his tenure with San Francisco before he ended up in
Speaker 7: Washington for twenty and twenty five. So all of that
Speaker 7: checks and I think actually puts the forty nine ers
Speaker 7: in a great spot in terms of Deebo's mentality. The
Speaker 7: only question I have in the contract structure and all
Speaker 7: that's a part of it. The only question I have
Speaker 7: is are they set up potential to be a little
Speaker 7: too Debo dependent, because I don't necessarily think that's best
Speaker 7: for that, But you know, he's a weapon, and he's
Speaker 7: a weapon in many different ways. It is a nice
Speaker 7: problem to have and one of the nineteen nice problems
Speaker 7: to have back in Deebo Sama.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that might be one of my concerns
Speaker 3: is how dependent they might need to be on Deebo
Speaker 3: early on in the season, with Ricky Piersov being done
Speaker 3: for the entire year, with George Kittle still coming back
Speaker 3: from that Achilles injury, his status is up.
Speaker 6: In the air for a week one down in Australia.
Speaker 3: And yes, it does seem like these are minor concerns
Speaker 3: early on for Mike Evans and Dejon Stripling, but we've
Speaker 3: seen these minor concerns morph into major concerns right next
Speaker 3: to that substation down in Santa Clara, so JD. Let
Speaker 3: me ask you, even though it is early on in
Speaker 3: training camp, even though we are over a week away
Speaker 3: from the forty nine ers first preseason game of the year,
Speaker 3: how concerned are you with the total amount of injuries
Speaker 3: with the forty nine ers in and outside of the
Speaker 3: wide receiver room. I mean, it's not like the forty
Speaker 3: are the only team around the league dealing with injuries,
Speaker 3: but it seems like every single season we're talking about
Speaker 3: the same topics. At least they're getting it out of
Speaker 3: the way early on. Or do you think this is
Speaker 3: something I could linger on into Week one of the
Speaker 3: season in Australia.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean you never know, but history would tell
Speaker 7: you that it. Yes, I mean it's the NFL and
Speaker 7: guys get hurt in the NFL with regularity, And I
Speaker 7: think it's it's where the entire history of the forty
Speaker 7: nine Ers and having so many seasons impacted in meaningful
Speaker 7: ways to a greater extent. At least it feels that
Speaker 7: way here in the Bay to other teams. How can
Speaker 7: it not at least concern you in terms of, Oh God,
Speaker 7: here we go again, Oh God, is this happening again?
Speaker 6: Like because I mean, think about it.
Speaker 7: How many years do you look back at the end
Speaker 7: of a forty nine er season and basically say injuries cost.
Speaker 6: Them X or Y or z or Lombardi.
Speaker 7: I mean, it's it feels like it's a part of
Speaker 7: the conversation every year, and again, a lot of that's
Speaker 7: the nature of the NFL, but the forty nine ers
Speaker 7: have been hit as hard as anybody by it in
Speaker 7: a lot of these years and over the last decade
Speaker 7: as a whole.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it almost feels like Groundhog Day every
Speaker 3: time one of these injury report comes out, and it's like,
Speaker 3: all right, now, this guy's hurt. Now, this guy's hurt.
Speaker 3: Now there's more issues and more question marks leading into
Speaker 3: the season when we just heard Mike Evans talk about
Speaker 3: all the talent when this is a healthy offense overall.
Speaker 3: Now there's also questions with Mike Evans at this stage
Speaker 3: in his career, did have a streak of eleven straight
Speaker 3: seasons with over a thousand yards, becoming the first wide
Speaker 3: receiver to do that, you know, since a guy named
Speaker 3: Jerry Rice did it. With the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 3: Now that streak came to an end last year and
Speaker 3: Mike Evans only played eight games, which has led to
Speaker 3: some overall concerns about him being that wide receiver number
Speaker 3: one in your wide receiver room. Here was our conversation
Speaker 3: yesterday with Mike Sando about the addition of Mike Evans
Speaker 3: and whether or not he's concerned about some of these
Speaker 3: early training camp injuries.
Speaker 5: I'm worried now.
Speaker 9: A lot of people really applauded that move to get him,
Speaker 9: but he missed a bunch of the year last year.
Speaker 9: I think the the odds are the Bucks, you know,
Speaker 9: got out. Probably they didn't get out a year too late, right,
Speaker 9: They probably got out on time. And so you know,
Speaker 9: I was already worried about Christian McCaffrey because the other
Speaker 9: two times he led the league in touches, he had
Speaker 9: injuries the next year. So now he's obviously older than
Speaker 9: he was then. And you know, are we taking him
Speaker 9: for granted right where all the focuses on the wide receivers.
Speaker 9: But yeah, Kittle coming off of the injury Evans, who
Speaker 9: probably even if he isn't missing time right now, I
Speaker 9: would tell you he's going to miss games this year.
Speaker 9: Pearsall now is out. I'm definitely worried, and I'm sure
Speaker 9: forty nine Er fans are too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there should be some cause for concern with the
Speaker 3: amount of injuries, with the fact that the forty nine
Speaker 3: ers have gone through this process. Then you throw the
Speaker 3: additional storyline of Kyle Shanahan in the car accident, in
Speaker 3: his recovery, in the concussion protocol, and his status for
Speaker 3: Week one down in Australia. I mean, these are all
Speaker 3: factors that we're going to be talking about for the
Speaker 3: next month of the season, leading up to the actual
Speaker 3: date where the forty nine Ers decide to travel down
Speaker 3: to Australia, whether it's nine days before or one day before,
Speaker 3: whenever those two teams show up down down Under. I
Speaker 3: should say there's plenty of time for the injuries to
Speaker 3: not be the factor that it looks like they could
Speaker 3: be right now.
Speaker 7: But again, the history makes you worried in a major,
Speaker 7: major way because typically during an NFL season, Yeah, you're
Speaker 7: gonna get some guys back that are dealing with minor injuries,
Speaker 7: but you're also going to have other players that are
Speaker 7: going to deal with minor injuries, and eventually every team's
Speaker 7: going to have a handful of players at a minimum
Speaker 7: that deal with major injuries, and the forty nine Ers
Speaker 7: already have one of those that's impacted a big part
Speaker 7: of this team, which is the wide receiver room in
Speaker 7: Ricky pearsall being done for the entire season. So it's
Speaker 7: absolutely an issue, although again and you have to try,
Speaker 7: I think, if you're the forty nine ers internally, to
Speaker 7: just not overreact to it because there still is so
Speaker 7: much time to go, what five weeks from tomorrow before
Speaker 7: they're gonna play that first game down in Melbourne, and
Speaker 7: a lot of things can go right.
Speaker 6: Between now and then as well to heal up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they still have time, but man, that time is
Speaker 3: moving quickly. Five weeks until that game, but it might
Speaker 3: be four weeks until they're actually flying out to Australia.
Speaker 3: A little bit of news, yes, so that we can
Speaker 3: talk about in a few minutes with Matt Barrows. Now,
Speaker 3: I believe the original plan for the forty nine ers
Speaker 3: was to fly out around nine days early to get
Speaker 3: out to Australia. Not sure if that timeline is gonna
Speaker 3: be affected at all by the Kyle Shanahan situation, or
Speaker 3: maybe even some of these injury concerns that they are
Speaker 3: dealing with. But how about this kind of curveball thrown
Speaker 3: into the storyline. Yesterday I was reported by ESPN's Dan
Speaker 3: Graziano that the La Rams are gonna fly in the
Speaker 3: day before Week one game against the forty nine ers
Speaker 3: and then fly out immediately after. Not sure about that
Speaker 3: strategy of maybe not trying to adjust your plot but
Speaker 3: your body clock getting in and out. Your reaction to
Speaker 3: the news that the La Rams are trying to be
Speaker 3: one and done down in Australia.
Speaker 7: I found it to be stunning, And I think the
Speaker 7: forty nine er plan is to go the Wednesday before,
Speaker 7: So here the game is going to be Thursday night football,
Speaker 7: right five thirty five Pacific, but it's actually going to
Speaker 7: be Friday morning in Melbourne. We talked about that. I
Speaker 7: think ten ten thirty in the morning, ten thirty five, Yeah.
Speaker 6: I believe.
Speaker 3: I think that's yeah, ten thirty or eleven thirty in
Speaker 3: the morning, well as Matty Barrows.
Speaker 7: But so there's that component to it. But then they're going,
Speaker 7: I believe, on the prior Wednesday to that. So that
Speaker 7: is quite the juxtaposition, and I find it stunning that
Speaker 7: the RAMS would do that for what is essentially a
Speaker 7: fifteen hour flight. And so you look at it and
Speaker 7: I mean, there, it's funny. I reading up on this
Speaker 7: during the show a little bit. You guys mentioned it
Speaker 7: in the pre show meeting, and I was thinking, well,
Speaker 7: what are they gonna what are they trying to do, like.
Speaker 6: Just get their sleep on the plane?
Speaker 7: One night of rest and basically, you know we've all
Speaker 7: done this right, you pull almost it all nighter and
Speaker 7: then you just ride out the next day on adrenaline.
Speaker 7: And I'm reading through articles and it's basically, yeah, the
Speaker 7: RAMS leadership hopts to rely on adrenaline and avoid prolonged
Speaker 7: jet lag disruptions by just by just.
Speaker 6: Go lock and load.
Speaker 3: I mean, they're gonna spend more time on the flight
Speaker 3: flying two and back from Australia than they actually will
Speaker 3: spend down in Australia.
Speaker 7: It sounds like that's the case, although again I wonder,
Speaker 7: you know, day before, day before is it's like probably
Speaker 7: Wednesday early, so they get their Wednesday night like our time,
Speaker 7: and so they would have it's it's gonna be two nights,
Speaker 7: Like there's no way they're getting their Thursday night and
Speaker 7: then playing and then playing at you know, ten thirty
Speaker 7: five in the morning local time. Then following mornings, there's
Speaker 7: got to be at least one more day in there.
Speaker 6: You're not gonna get a fifteen hour flight. Get in it,
Speaker 6: get in at eight o'clock at night, and then we'll.
Speaker 3: Come straight off the plane and play and then JB.
Speaker 3: I can just say from my own past experience, I've
Speaker 3: pulled plenty of all nighters and taken red eyes the
Speaker 3: night before. My body does not feel great the next day.
Speaker 3: So we'll see if this strategy plays out for the
Speaker 3: Rams in week one down in Australia only five weeks away.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 7: I am rereading it now just to make sure on
Speaker 7: the details of it, because again you have the difference
Speaker 7: in time, and like I said, the game is, the
Speaker 7: game is going to be, you know, one day here
Speaker 7: and the next day there you know as well, which
Speaker 7: also factors into this. But but yeah, it's it's incredible
Speaker 7: when you think about it. Yeah, seventeen hour difference between
Speaker 7: the Pacific time zone and Melbourne. The forty nine ers
Speaker 7: are going to get acclimated having the full nine days
Speaker 7: before the kickoff and so yeah, they've got their plan
Speaker 7: and McVeigh says, we're like sealed team six.
Speaker 6: We're in and out before you know what happened.
Speaker 3: Oh that's a bold strategy. Caught in eight three one
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Speaker 3: They asked the silple question, what if the Rams have
Speaker 3: their flight delayed? Like, how's that factor?
Speaker 1: And I don't know.
Speaker 3: They got their own private jet. I'm sure they'll be
Speaker 3: able to get down to Australia. We'll break down travel
Speaker 3: plans with Matt Barrow's next, who is one of the
Speaker 3: best beat riders on the scene. Right now, we'll get
Speaker 3: a live check in from Levi Stadium with all of
Speaker 3: your forty nine er injury updates and your travel plans
Speaker 3: for the Rams and for the forty nine ers. Five
Speaker 3: weeks away from Week one of the NFL season, one
Speaker 3: week away from the preseason, and one day away from
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame game tomorrow, a lot to break
Speaker 3: down with Matt Barrow's next on The Sports Leader