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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the exter Rning postgame show with Bill

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Speaker 1: last I'm excited to bring my guest down. He's been

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Speaker 1: on a show a few times the past couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Let's bring in the right hand or wearing number sixty,

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Speaker 1: Hayden Bird songing, Hayden, how were you today?

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Speaker 2: Good? How are you? Thanks for having me?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great. Hayden's pleasure always to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Of course, twenty twenty six, a new season ahead of you.

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Speaker 1: It looks like the Giants are primarily going to use

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Speaker 1: you in a starting role. What have they told you

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Speaker 1: so far in spring training?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not exactly sure. I assume I'm starting,

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Speaker 3: but we'll see when that time comes, and we'll find

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Speaker 3: out pretty quick here because game's about to start.

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Speaker 1: They sure are. Let's go a couple of things that

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Speaker 1: have changed for you. A new pitching coach in Justin Message,

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Speaker 1: another pitching coast Christian Wonders, and of course the veteran

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Speaker 1: Jesse Chavez who's going to be in the bullpen. How

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Speaker 1: three of these guys have they been picking your brain?

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Speaker 1: Have they talking to you a lot?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been. They've been great.

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Speaker 3: They've been I've seen a lot of Christians because he

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Speaker 3: lives out here in Arizona and I've been here mostly

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Speaker 3: off season, so seen him quite a bit of Papago

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Speaker 3: and uh, we just talked a lot about i mean,

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Speaker 3: mechanical stuff, but also just like mindset on like what

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Speaker 3: I should be thinking about when I'm on the mound,

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Speaker 3: which is probably nothing I shouldn't be thinking. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's kind of It's been really good.

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Speaker 1: Hayden bird Song joined me on the Extrading postgame show.

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Speaker 1: It's always great to have new voices, new new thoughts,

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Speaker 1: new you know, analytics things, and you talk about mechanical

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Speaker 1: and you talk about mental. But it's really all up

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Speaker 1: to you, Hayden. How are you accepting it? Has it

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Speaker 1: changed you a little bit moving into the twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I've seen to go out and play

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Speaker 3: baseball like I used to when I was ten years old.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm excited to keep going.

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Speaker 3: And I'm just had of pitching a game because it

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Speaker 3: feels like I'm doing a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of the same stuff over and over again, and now.

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Speaker 3: About to get gone and we'll see, we'll see where

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Speaker 3: what we can learn during spring training and hopefully they

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Speaker 3: take it into the season.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm kind of glad that you talked about when

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Speaker 1: you were younger at Matun High School and then you

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Speaker 1: ended up going to Lakeland Junior College. But I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about the next step at Eastern Illinois. You

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Speaker 1: started there as a reliever. You didn't really have a

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Speaker 1: great year your first year, but you bounced back the

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Speaker 1: following year. How did you jump into being a relief pitcher.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I started out that year. This is

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Speaker 3: my second year there. I started out. I started the

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Speaker 3: first weekend. We were at Little Rock, Arkansas. Little Rock,

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Speaker 3: and I struggled at my first inning. I think I

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Speaker 3: I didn't throw for like two weeks, so I was

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Speaker 3: not very happy. It's kind of felt like a short leash.

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Speaker 3: But I'm happy happy it went how it went.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, it turned around for you. What a great

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Speaker 1: second year. You had twenty games, pitch three, three earned

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Speaker 1: run average, forty five and two thirds innings sixty six strikeouts?

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Speaker 1: Was your same pitch selection you have now? Was it

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Speaker 2: Similar? But not?

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Speaker 3: I mean i'd say I have two other pitches that

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Speaker 3: I didn't have a change out.

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Speaker 2: I will say that I didn't have one at all.

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Speaker 2: So it's kind of a lot of things have changed.

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Speaker 1: Well, all for the good too. But I got to

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Speaker 1: ask you. I looked at your major and it was

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Speaker 1: called exercise science. Tell me a little bit about your major.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I mean, that's kinesiology. So if you use

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Speaker 2: Learning the body. Yeah, learning the body how it moves.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, it's something you learned.

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Speaker 1: It definitely something you learn and it maybe helped you

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Speaker 1: the justifications of how to turn around to stretching and

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Speaker 1: Always though baseball players, we went to playball. Correct, exactly, Well, heyd,

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Speaker 1: and let's talk a little bit about what happened last year.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the strike zone seemed like it got smaller

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not exactly sure what happened.

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Speaker 2: I think my mindset wasn't where it was when I

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Speaker 3: I flipped over to starting again, it just I don't

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Speaker 3: can't figure out what, like what went wrong, what what changed,

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Speaker 3: And then I'm trying to I'm thinking about, Okay, I

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Speaker 3: And when I'm so when I'm thinking about that, in

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you, from a picture to a picture,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to think. I want to pitch, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's what you did two years ago because

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Speaker 3: Your rookie Year's exactly that's exactly what I was doing.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's go back to July twenty first and Colorado, Boy,

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Speaker 1: oh boy, that was one hell of a game. You

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Speaker 1: pitched their six innings, twelve strikeouts. Let's go to those

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's those four pitches trying to tweak some of them,

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Speaker 1: Now, when we talk about ketcher Patrick Bailey's behind the plate,

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Speaker 3: Yes, and though I mean he catches a lot of

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Speaker 2: But he just got here this week, so there's a

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Speaker 3: And We've talked a little bit about this little stuff,

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Speaker 3: and I know what I have to do.

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Speaker 2: He knows that.

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Speaker 3: So it's one of those things where it's like a

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Speaker 3: repetitive Hey, you just go pound the zone.

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Speaker 2: Your stuff's good enough. Yeah, I know that. I just

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Speaker 2: I mean, basically, not really mechanical things. It's more just

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Speaker 3: I'd say it's a kind of last year I started

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Speaker 3: It's just an inconsistent arm path in reality, and then

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Speaker 2: Really just go back to high school and playing catch

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Speaker 1: Basic things to get you back in the zone. Both

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Speaker 1: That's where all the balls seem to get higher, the

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Speaker 1: high elevated pitches. Is that something they're trying to work

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Speaker 3: I mean my fastball plays up, so it's a tricky

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Speaker 3: That's awesome, But at the same time, I know where

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Speaker 1: for a few more minutes. I want to talk about

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Speaker 1: your change up. One of the best change ups I've seen,

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Speaker 1: and you use it very well at different times. Is

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Speaker 1: there something in your repertoire pitches when you like to

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Speaker 3: There's not a specific time I like to throw it. Really,

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Speaker 3: when I have it, when I know I have it,

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Speaker 3: I'll throw it whenever. Honestly, I enjoy throwing it because

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Speaker 3: it looks completely I could throw a bad change up

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Speaker 3: and it looks so different than my fastball, so it

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Speaker 3: plays no matter. Sometimes I could throw right down the

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Speaker 3: middle and it works. Now, sometimes that doesn't work all

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Speaker 3: the time because there are good hitters and they hit

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Speaker 3: the ball pretty far. But that's what I'm learning, is

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Speaker 2: Pretty good amount of the time. So just gotta really just.

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Speaker 1: Fill it up well, Hayden. You know, in Arizona it's

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Speaker 1: tough getting that breaking ball sharp. That's one of the

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Speaker 1: bigges worst things that can happen in Arizona. You've been

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Speaker 1: in spring training a few years. Is this a pitch

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Speaker 1: that comes later in spring training or are you snapping

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Speaker 1: it pretty good so far?

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Speaker 3: Honestly, it's been pretty good last week and a half,

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Speaker 3: two weeks. But I'm excited to see what happens when

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Speaker 3: we get to I don't know what it is about Arizona,

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Speaker 3: but some things work really well and somethings, and I'm

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Speaker 3: trying to make it all work here. And then if

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really happy to hear that too. I'm looking

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Speaker 1: forward for a rebound year from you, Rayden. The last

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Speaker 1: couple of things I want to throw to you over

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Speaker 1: the winner. What was kind of the things to forget

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Speaker 1: about what happened last year year and build on this year?

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts of that?

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Speaker 3: I don't see just time you just I feel like

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Speaker 3: it just kind of goes away after a while. You

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Speaker 3: and think, oh, well, I should have done this or

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Speaker 3: done it I mean, you can't. It's already over. You

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Speaker 3: can't do anything about it. So you just kind of

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Speaker 3: next step and figure out what that is. That well,

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Speaker 3: I don't take a step in the right direction the

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Speaker 3: next year.

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Speaker 1: So well, one of the things that people don't understand.

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Speaker 1: Fans don't understand you're only twenty four years old and

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Speaker 1: you've been into big leagues for two years. Successful and

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Speaker 1: I really believe last year was successful at different times

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Speaker 1: really good too. But I think the word is consistency.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest thing that you did two

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Speaker 1: years ago as a starting pitcher, and I'm sure that's

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Speaker 1: what you're thinking of doing this year.

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Speaker 2: Yep, that's the idea. Ideas just throw all year long

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Speaker 2: up there.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, help this team win by eating innings and throwing

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Speaker 3: strikes and not having to deal with.

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Speaker 2: Those blow up outings. Just make those blow up outings

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Speaker 2: a little smaller.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well, Hayden, I want to thank you for

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Speaker 1: your time today. You know, I'm a big fan of yours.

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Speaker 1: Love talking to you as the season progresses, and I'll

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Speaker 1: definitely do that more often. But again, stay healthy, have

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Speaker 1: a great spring, and I want to see you back

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Speaker 1: up in the big leagues.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, I appreciate it. Thanks for having me.

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