WEBVTT - Is SoCal Edison About to Face Criminal Charges for the Eaton Fire?

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<v Speaker 2>Eight hundred two two two five two two two is

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<v Speaker 2>a telephone number. One eight hundred two two two five

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<v Speaker 2>two two two. Well, we now know who started the

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<v Speaker 2>eaton fire, and you can't blame this one on the bumbs.

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<v Speaker 3>Even though we knew this for a very very very

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<v Speaker 3>long time. I guess it's good to know that it's official.

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<v Speaker 3>La County and CalFire have determined that yes, so cal

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<v Speaker 3>Edison and their faulty equipment were to blame for the

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<v Speaker 3>Eton fire that got destroyed nearly six thousand homes and

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<v Speaker 3>killed nineteen people. And apparently there are possible criminal charges

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<v Speaker 3>related to this. Now that's not saying much, John, As

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<v Speaker 3>we know, PG and E was convicted of killing people

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<v Speaker 3>in the campfire, and they saw very little punishment for

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<v Speaker 3>that conviction.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. One of the local das in northern California

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<v Speaker 2>actually took the case to trial and won a conviction

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<v Speaker 2>against that corporation. Nobody went to prison, but he wanted

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<v Speaker 2>the world to know that this wasn't just some kind

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<v Speaker 2>of accident, that this was something that was done by

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<v Speaker 2>the company because they didn't want to spend the money

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<v Speaker 2>to fix equipment that they knew that was dangerous.

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<v Speaker 3>And despite that, Gavin Newsom bailed out this company. And

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<v Speaker 3>you remember that press conference early on in Gavin Newsom's

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<v Speaker 3>governorship when Brandon Rediman of ABC ten asked him why

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<v Speaker 3>are you bailing out a convicted felon? And he looked

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<v Speaker 3>like he had a short circuit in his brain broke

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<v Speaker 3>and he tried to not answer the question whatsoever. But

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<v Speaker 3>let's find out exactly what happened here with so Cal Edison, who,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, just paid a massive settlement to all

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<v Speaker 3>the people's homes that they burned down in the Woolsey

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<v Speaker 3>fire and then got approval from the CPUC to pass

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<v Speaker 3>on that cost to rate payers. Let's see it all

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<v Speaker 3>happen all over again. Here is NBCLA and their great

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<v Speaker 3>investigative reporter Eric Leonard.

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<v Speaker 4>They on the Eton fire disaster investigator. They've concluded that

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<v Speaker 4>electrical equipment in the hills above alted in a cause

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<v Speaker 4>eating fire. NBC four Investigations was a first to show you.

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<v Speaker 1>More than a year ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that video started coming out in like March of

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, No, we've had the money shot for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Video of the Once again, I'm going to do you

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<v Speaker 3>a favor because I feel like I have your back.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not turning that into a drop either.

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<v Speaker 4>Fire spreading from below, power lines above, and now.

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<v Speaker 5>The official report confirms with many fire victims and their

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<v Speaker 5>lawyers have long been saying for more than a year.

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<v Speaker 5>NBC four investigative reporter Eric Leonard joins us live now

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<v Speaker 5>from our newsroom with more on today's findings. Eric we're

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<v Speaker 5>talking eighteen months now to confirm the cause.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right, and this comes from both the La County.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it made sense that he made the jump

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<v Speaker 3>from radio to TV. He's way too good looking to

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<v Speaker 3>be on radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Fire Department and cal Fire. They work together to pinpoint

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<v Speaker 1>what's caused. What's called the origin and cause of the

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<v Speaker 1>Eaton Fire. And no surprise here they say it ignited

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<v Speaker 1>in the brush right below this Southern California Edison Tower.

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<v Speaker 1>For the attorneys who are representing thousands of Eaton Fire

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<v Speaker 1>victims who are suing Edison, they say this finding doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>change much.

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<v Speaker 6>That report simply confirms what we all knew from pretty

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<v Speaker 6>much day one. Our investigators at that time confirmed that

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<v Speaker 6>it was most likely an see line that caused this fire.

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<v Speaker 1>The new official findings made public today.

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<v Speaker 2>And remember Randy, when they first started louring up and

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<v Speaker 2>they first started fingering Southern California Edison, you and I

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<v Speaker 2>had the conversation they wouldn't be doing this unless they

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<v Speaker 2>felt that they had the smoking gun, and it looks

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<v Speaker 2>like they have the smoking gun.

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<v Speaker 3>The attorneys knew early on because you're not going to

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<v Speaker 3>file that many lawsuits when it's just a possibility. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>not forget They're going all the way back to I

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<v Speaker 3>believe May of last year. In a regulatory filing, so

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<v Speaker 3>Cal Edison themselves said, yeah, it was probably us.

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<v Speaker 1>Say that the sparks that ignited the brush on the

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<v Speaker 1>night of January seventh, twenty twenty five fell to the

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<v Speaker 1>ground because of electrical arking on one of three Southern

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<v Speaker 1>California Edison towers on a hill above Altadena. The report

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<v Speaker 1>says these arcing events ejected hot metal particles that fell

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<v Speaker 1>to the receptive fuel beds consisting of dry vegetation below

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<v Speaker 1>the towers.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, you know what this is extra frustrating for any

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<v Speaker 3>rate pair of Sokal Edison or PG and E or

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<v Speaker 3>SDG and E because they all do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>How many times whenever it's just a little windy, do

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<v Speaker 3>they have a public safety power shut off and shut

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<v Speaker 3>off your power and this is the one time where

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<v Speaker 3>we're having historic winds they don't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it seems like it doesn't matter which way you

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<v Speaker 2>look at it, the result is they punish us. They

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<v Speaker 2>shut off the power. They shut off the electricity out

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<v Speaker 2>of an abundance of caution because they don't want the

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<v Speaker 2>lines to go down in a fire to start, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so we all have to sit in the dark. And

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<v Speaker 2>then when they do start a fire, and they do

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<v Speaker 2>kill people, and they do burn down homes and burn

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<v Speaker 2>animals alive, they then have to pay out huge sums

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<v Speaker 2>of money to the victims. But how do they raise

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<v Speaker 2>the money to pay the victims? They raise your raids.

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<v Speaker 3>And because the CPUC is made up of appointees of

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<v Speaker 3>Gavin Newsom that are mostly former executives from so Cal

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<v Speaker 3>Edison and PG and E, they get a rubber stamp

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<v Speaker 3>on everything, including last week when PG and E a

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<v Speaker 3>pride for a rate hike specifically just to pay off shareholders.

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<v Speaker 3>And I do get to point out there's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of warranted criticism at so Cal Edison and PG and

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<v Speaker 3>E for the fires they cause, but we want to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure because I got a message in my DMS

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<v Speaker 3>last week about this. We're not blaming the linemen. We're

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<v Speaker 3>not blaming the trench diggers or the guys that work there.

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<v Speaker 3>These are failures of management. So the guy who's just

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<v Speaker 3>working on the power lines, he's not the villain here.

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<v Speaker 3>The companies are, and the governor who allows this behavior

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<v Speaker 3>is and the legislature that is mostly bought and paid

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<v Speaker 3>for by them as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And let's just be clear how this works. If you

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<v Speaker 2>are Southern California, Edison or PG and E and your

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<v Speaker 2>people come to you and they go, we have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of faulty equipment that we need to replace, and

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<v Speaker 2>if we don't replace that equipment, it could potentially cause

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<v Speaker 2>a fire and kill people and burn down homes and

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<v Speaker 2>the like. What they do is they look at the

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<v Speaker 2>number of what it would cost to fix the equipment,

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<v Speaker 2>and they look at the number of what it would

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<v Speaker 2>cost to pay out in lawsuits should a fire happen,

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<v Speaker 2>and whichever number is lower is the one that they

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<v Speaker 2>go with. They're just looking to save costs, save money.

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<v Speaker 2>What happens to the people who are impacted by the

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<v Speaker 2>fires is not material to them.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and there are specific things when you're going through

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<v Speaker 3>one of these rate hike requests, there are specific things

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<v Speaker 3>that you can use that money for. Like part of

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<v Speaker 3>the rate approvals that PG and E and so Cal

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<v Speaker 3>Edison get are specifically for wildfire mitigation improving their infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 3>And what did we find out a couple of years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>PG and E was using money that was supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>go towards wildfire prevention to pay for ad time on

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<v Speaker 3>local TV to tell you what a great job PG

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<v Speaker 3>and E is doing on preventing wildfires.

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<v Speaker 2>And go back to the fire that burned down Paradise, California,

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<v Speaker 2>when those people were saying, Okay, how are you going

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<v Speaker 2>to make us whole? PG and E paid them in

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<v Speaker 2>PG and E stock, not in cash. And believe me,

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<v Speaker 2>if Newsom would let PG and E pay them in

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<v Speaker 2>confederate money, that's what they would have paid them with.

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<v Speaker 1>Resulted in ignition, causing the e eat and fire. Cell

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<v Speaker 1>phone and security video recorded at that moment and first

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<v Speaker 1>shared publicly by NBC four investigates more than a year ago,

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<v Speaker 1>showed the first flames of the Eaton fire spreading from

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<v Speaker 1>below that tower.

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<v Speaker 2>And what was just a theory before.

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<v Speaker 1>About how all of that happened is also confirmed in

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<v Speaker 1>the report.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is, by the way, what they call a

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<v Speaker 3>zombie tower, an old piece of infrastructure that they hadn't

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<v Speaker 3>used in decades that they were supposed to remove and

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<v Speaker 3>they didn't because all that would cost money.

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<v Speaker 1>It found an idle or unused line with no electricity

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<v Speaker 1>that ended in the tower shown in this photo as

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<v Speaker 1>Tower three, that ran parallel to live lines, somehow became

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<v Speaker 1>energized that night, causing the arking. Nineteen people died as

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<v Speaker 1>a result of the fire, and it destroyed more than

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<v Speaker 1>nine thousand homes and businesses. Edison first flagged the idle

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<v Speaker 1>line issue in filings with state regulators shortly after the fire.

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<v Speaker 1>The suspect tower was removed and examined, and the new

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<v Speaker 1>fire report says that in inspection and lab work confirmed

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<v Speaker 1>how it happened.

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<v Speaker 7>Took them eighteen months to do this.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy, nothing happens fast here, not counting the votes, not

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<v Speaker 2>figuring out what's burning us alive.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you could have done the shortcut route that Karen

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<v Speaker 3>Bass did for the Palisades fire and just doctor up

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<v Speaker 3>a report that says it's not her fault.

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<v Speaker 1>Edison also told regulators and investors last year it suspected

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<v Speaker 1>its equipment was related to the cause of the fire.

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<v Speaker 8>We did receive the La County Fire Department's report this

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<v Speaker 8>morning and we continue to review it. We have taken

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<v Speaker 8>our potential role in the start of the fire seriously.

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<v Speaker 3>From the beginning, You guys, glasses were just a little

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<v Speaker 3>too big if.

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<v Speaker 2>You're Southern California, Edison, there's no excuse to get rid

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<v Speaker 2>of the zombie towers. You're leaving something up that belongs

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<v Speaker 2>to you, that has liability associated with it, that you're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to remove because you just don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>incur the cost for removing it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how these private energy monopoli have operated for years

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<v Speaker 3>and years and years.

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<v Speaker 7>How did the campfire start?

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<v Speaker 3>Old equipment from PG and E that was rusted and

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<v Speaker 3>broke when there was a little bit of win that

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<v Speaker 3>started that devastating fire that wiped out a whole town.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the same story over and over and over again.

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<v Speaker 3>They do not want to invest in their own infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 1>La County Fire Department told me it can't discuss any

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<v Speaker 1>of these findings in more detail because there is a

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<v Speaker 1>potential criminal case being evaluated by prosecutors and because of

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<v Speaker 1>all of the ongoing lawsuits that also involve the county.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm investigative reporter Eric Leonard NBC four.

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<v Speaker 3>News, and that could be a local criminal charge, that

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<v Speaker 3>could also be a federal criminal charge. We'll see what

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<v Speaker 3>happens from that, but so cal Leedison potentially could be

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<v Speaker 3>facing criminal charges for this not that that really means anything, because,

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<v Speaker 3>to use everybody's favorite word, that means nothing. At the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the day, so Cal Edison is not going

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<v Speaker 3>to be held accountable.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't understand why you wouldn't get rid of

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<v Speaker 2>something that you have that you have no use for.

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<v Speaker 2>Just ask Bruce Jenner, now Johnny to add insult to injury.

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<v Speaker 2>The California utility monopolies, whether we're talking about so Cal Edison,

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<v Speaker 2>or PG and E or San Diego Gas and Electric,

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<v Speaker 2>they're on Capitol Hill and they are looking to lobby

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<v Speaker 2>in Sacramento to get new laws passed that would limit

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<v Speaker 2>their liability when they start wildfires, because of course why not,

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<v Speaker 2>Because of.

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<v Speaker 3>Course it's it's the lawyer's fault that they're getting sued.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the same argument that Uber tried to make when

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<v Speaker 3>every eight second someone is getting sexually assaulted in the

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<v Speaker 3>back of an Uber. For more here at CBSLA, A high.

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<v Speaker 9>Stakes battle is brewing in Sacramento tonight.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, California's biggest utility companies, which are are raking in

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<v Speaker 10>billions of dollars and profits, want new laws to protect

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<v Speaker 10>themselves after wildfires. And CBSLA political reporter Tom Wait is

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<v Speaker 10>here to explain what could this mean to you?

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<v Speaker 11>Right, So, there's a few different issues at play here,

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<v Speaker 11>and we'll get into all of them because it is

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<v Speaker 11>a bit much. So state lawmakers went backward to work

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<v Speaker 11>today they've been They have one month before their session ends,

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<v Speaker 11>and there are reports that behind closed doors they're discussing

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<v Speaker 11>new laws that could protect electric companies from massive lawsuits.

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<v Speaker 3>Boy, that doesn't sound like a representative government that represents

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<v Speaker 3>the people. That sounds like a representative government that represents

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<v Speaker 3>their donors.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're getting all ginned up about southern California,

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<v Speaker 2>Edison and PG and E don't because they have a

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<v Speaker 2>monopoly and it's not like you can cancel your service

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<v Speaker 2>and sign up with a different company.

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<v Speaker 11>After wildfires, fire victims, consumer watchdogs, and even the insurance

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<v Speaker 11>companies are banding.

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<v Speaker 2>Together to stop all of this.

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<v Speaker 11>A showdown in Sacramento over wildfires and California's biggest for

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<v Speaker 11>profit electric companies. With just weeks to go until this

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<v Speaker 11>year's legislative session ends, electric companies are spending a record

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<v Speaker 11>amount on lobbying to get new laws passed that would

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<v Speaker 11>limit their liability.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder how much lower your rates could be for

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<v Speaker 3>PGN and SoCal Edison if they weren't spending millions of

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<v Speaker 3>dollars every year on bribing politicians.

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<v Speaker 2>Just imagine if any other industry did this. If this

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<v Speaker 2>was the tobacco industry, or this was the gun industry

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<v Speaker 2>that wanted a special carve out for liability, people would

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<v Speaker 2>go nuts. But when utilities do it, it's like, why not.

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<v Speaker 11>In future fires? Fire victims and consumer watchdog groups are

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<v Speaker 11>sounding an alarm this year.

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<v Speaker 12>All three utilities are doing just fine. They're making big profits,

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<v Speaker 12>they have big rate hikes, They got a lot of

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<v Speaker 12>money in the bank.

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<v Speaker 3>Pg and E got six rate hikes last year.

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<v Speaker 7>Six.

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<v Speaker 12>So they have to spend this money on lobbying to

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<v Speaker 12>convince legislators they're in trouble. Because they're not in trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>You do what PGNE stands for. What's that pillage gouge

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<v Speaker 2>and exterminate.

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<v Speaker 12>Accurate, protect us eating fire survivors, not the perpetrators of

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<v Speaker 12>catastrophic fires.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to lose your home to be hurt

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<v Speaker 1>by wildfire.

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<v Speaker 11>The electric companies also launched this public campaign called Wildfire

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<v Speaker 11>Victims First.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, this might be the most insulting thing to all

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<v Speaker 3>this is that the electric companies have created a fake

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<v Speaker 3>political action committee that's supposed to be helping wildfire victims,

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<v Speaker 3>but really they're an advocacy group for PG and E

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<v Speaker 3>and so cal Edison.

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<v Speaker 11>Trying to convince the public that California.

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<v Speaker 3>Needs Like, if you want any more evidence that politics

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<v Speaker 3>in California is disgusting, here you go.

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<v Speaker 11>These new laws that limit how much attorneys can sue

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<v Speaker 11>for after fires.

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<v Speaker 12>The worst part is in public. They're not even talking

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<v Speaker 12>publicly to the media. They're talking through this group called

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<v Speaker 12>Wildfire Victims First, which is funded one hundred percent by

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<v Speaker 12>the utilities.

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<v Speaker 11>A spokesperson for Wildfire Victims First, in a statement said

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<v Speaker 11>this about Consumer Watchdog, it should come as no surprise

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<v Speaker 11>that they are trying to protect a system that prioritizes

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<v Speaker 11>trial attorneys over wildfe Okay, victim.

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<v Speaker 2>Nathan Klick, he's the spokesman for the Wildfire Victims First organization.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct that name rings a bell that is fully funded

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<v Speaker 2>by the utilities. Correct, Yes, Okay, he was a spokesman

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<v Speaker 2>for Newsom. Yep, it all goes together. And let's just

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<v Speaker 2>remind you one last time, Gavin Newsom, when he was

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<v Speaker 2>caught drinking twelve thousand dollars worth of wine and not

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<v Speaker 2>wearing a mask at the French laundry. Was there to

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<v Speaker 2>celebrate his buddy's birthday. His buddy is the lobbyist for

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<v Speaker 2>PG and E. Would you see PG and E and

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<v Speaker 2>you see Southern California, Edison understand their appendages of Gavin Newsom.

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<v Speaker 11>Fire survivors were lawmakers and the governor are meeting behind

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<v Speaker 11>closed doors to discuss protections for the utilities. But no

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<v Speaker 11>one in Sacramento will confirm that on the record.

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<v Speaker 7>I have not been subject to a quote unquote lobbying campaign.

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<v Speaker 11>Democratic Assemblyman John Harbetian represents Altadena. He says he's not

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<v Speaker 11>aware of any pending legislation that would provide bailouts or

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<v Speaker 11>any other new protection.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they don't go for the guy that's in the

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<v Speaker 3>district that has the fire that's affected. They know how

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<v Speaker 3>he's going to vote. But Johnny wasn't it Chad Mays

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<v Speaker 3>that helped bail out PG and E and he was

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<v Speaker 3>in southern California, nowhere near PG.

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<v Speaker 7>And e'es rat area.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. He was the Republican leader who did exactly

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing that the current leader did, which is

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<v Speaker 2>sell out the Republicans to do the bidding of the Democrats.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he switched parties and authored legislation that would bail

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<v Speaker 2>out PG and E even though he represented Yuka Valley,

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<v Speaker 2>which is in San Bernardino County the legislature, an area

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<v Speaker 2>that PG and E did not service. And then he

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<v Speaker 2>went to work for a firm that handled the lobbying

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<v Speaker 2>for PG and E once he got out of the legislature.

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<v Speaker 3>So there you go. Here's what you need to know today.

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<v Speaker 3>It's official. So Cal Edison started the eaton fire, and

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<v Speaker 3>Sokel Edison and PG and E are trying to lobby

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<v Speaker 3>Sacramento politicians right now to limit their liability when they

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<v Speaker 3>start fires.

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<v Speaker 2>In Alameda County, they're kicking the minimum wage and Randy,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you could call that hazard pay at least

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<v Speaker 2>if you're in the city of Oakland.

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<v Speaker 3>So in Alameda County, there was an effort to collect

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<v Speaker 3>signatures to put a thirty dollars minimum wage on the

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<v Speaker 3>November ballot, and they got the amount of signatures that

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<v Speaker 3>they needed, and the bord of Supervisors had a meeting

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<v Speaker 3>to decide what they were going to call the measure,

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<v Speaker 3>and the Border Supervisors voted to not put it on

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<v Speaker 3>the November ballot, which has a lot of Alameda County

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<v Speaker 3>people very very very pissed off.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh oh, I bet your Luigi Mangioni is particularly upset

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<v Speaker 2>in his prison cell.

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<v Speaker 3>For more on this, here is NBC in the Bay.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at that large woman with pink hair at this meeting.

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<v Speaker 2>You think the curtains matched the carpet.

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<v Speaker 7>I had a feeling you would point that out.

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<v Speaker 13>They are yelling shame right now.

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<v Speaker 7>Why did she bring flowers?

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<v Speaker 2>I know a guy didn't give them to her.

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<v Speaker 13>Nice out eleven o'clock angry protests, A sharp reversal and

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<v Speaker 13>a controversial plan is in limbo. Tonight. The proposed thirty

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<v Speaker 13>dollars an hour minimum wage in Alameda County is on hold,

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<v Speaker 13>meaning it won't be on the upcoming November ballot.

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<v Speaker 9>It is a no for now.

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<v Speaker 14>That decision tonight, though, didn't happen without a loud debate.

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<v Speaker 14>Nbcbara's Giva is live in Alameda County to break it down,

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<v Speaker 14>and GIA a lot of people were paying attention to

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<v Speaker 14>this one, a lot of back and forth.

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<v Speaker 15>Jessamrage, They really were, so it will know.

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<v Speaker 3>These people are probably pissed thirty dollars an hour when

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<v Speaker 3>Barbara Lee was running for Senate, they wanted fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, think about what this would do to the restaurant industry.

0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:48.720
<v Speaker 2>Think about what this would do to businesses that rely

0:22:49.240 --> 0:22:55.280
<v Speaker 2>on people a lot of labor, human labor to get

0:22:55.320 --> 0:22:59.159
<v Speaker 2>their product to their customers. It would absolutely kill them.

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<v Speaker 2>This happened in West Hollywood, didn't West Hollywood put together

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<v Speaker 2>a minimum wage that was totally ridiculous and it's driving

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<v Speaker 2>all the restaurants out of the city.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're paying restaurant workers thirty dollars an hour, probably

0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:16.560
<v Speaker 3>shouldn't expect the tip. And by the way, there are

0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:19.199
<v Speaker 3>some restaurants in San Francisco that do that. They're like,

0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:21.480
<v Speaker 3>do not give us tips. We pay our people like

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<v Speaker 3>thirty forty dollars an hour.

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<v Speaker 9>Out a month.

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<v Speaker 15>Which way the board goes on this tonight, though, supervisors

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<v Speaker 15>say they wanted to slow down and try to figure

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<v Speaker 15>out if there are any unintended consequences.

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<v Speaker 7>There She is again, Oh yeah, that.

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<v Speaker 15>Was the reaction from a large group of the public

0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:44.760
<v Speaker 15>inside the Alameda County Board of Supervisors meeting tonight in Oakland.

0:23:44.960 --> 0:23:46.000
<v Speaker 9>They were briefly.

0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:47.720
<v Speaker 15>Kicked out of the room, unhappy with a vote that

0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:48.400
<v Speaker 15>just happened.

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<v Speaker 3>So I do wonder how you can do this though.

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<v Speaker 3>If they collected the signatures and the signatures were verified,

0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:58.680
<v Speaker 3>how can the Board of Supervisors then decide, Oh, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not going on the ballot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you see the crowd that supports the minimum wage increase,

0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:08.760
<v Speaker 2>they usually benefit from these sorts of things. It's not

0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:12.119
<v Speaker 2>very often that these tricks that they pull to screw

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 2>the voters over are screwing these voters over.

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<v Speaker 5>No super residuum, Yes, super resume, Yes, super reciportion of

0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:24.760
<v Speaker 5>the bus now doesn't helper?

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<v Speaker 15>I wrote yes in a three to two vote. The

0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:29.840
<v Speaker 15>board is pumping the brakes on sending a proposal to

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<v Speaker 15>the November ballot that would raise the minimum wage to

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<v Speaker 15>thirty dollars an hour.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, it's something that needed to be done.

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<v Speaker 12>It goes without saying, because you can't make a rush

0:24:39.640 --> 0:24:42.760
<v Speaker 12>to judgment on something that's going to have severe impact

0:24:43.240 --> 0:24:45.119
<v Speaker 12>on many communities across the board.

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<v Speaker 15>The measure would nearly double Alameda County's minimum wage compared

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<v Speaker 15>to California state rate. In unincorporated areas. Using a phased approach,

0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:55.520
<v Speaker 15>larger employers would reach that level by twenty thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, so this would only affect unincorporated Alameda County. So

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:03.280
<v Speaker 3>if you're in between Oakland and San Leandro, then you

0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:03.919
<v Speaker 3>have to pay this.

0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:05.280
<v Speaker 7>That's a little confusing.

0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:08.800
<v Speaker 2>They're going to make this so confusing. Even if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to comply, you can't comply. Remember going back to

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<v Speaker 2>the fast food minimum wage when Gavin raised that and

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<v Speaker 2>there were people that owned I don't know if it

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<v Speaker 2>was an ice cream shop or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was an ice cream shop. It handles ice

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<v Speaker 3>cream shop that just wanted clarification as to does this

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<v Speaker 3>law apply to me? And two years later, nobody from

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<v Speaker 3>Gavin Newsom's Fast Food Council has even gotten back to.

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<v Speaker 15>Her size businesses by twenty thirty five and the smallest

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<v Speaker 15>ones by twenty thirty seven. Opponents say, even with the time,

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<v Speaker 15>many won't be able to hang on.

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<v Speaker 4>I urge you to move forward with the economic impact study.

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<v Speaker 15>That's what supervisors are now doing, saying they'll study the

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<v Speaker 15>measures potential impacts. The supporters of the proposal also showed

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<v Speaker 15>up passionately today.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm a resident of a corn project, the most notorious

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<v Speaker 10>place in Oakland right now, if we just had.

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<v Speaker 7>Enough, if we just had enough, then she can move out.

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<v Speaker 2>So wait a minute. She lives in the most notorious

0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:15.120
<v Speaker 2>project in Oakland, and she thinks that's not a nice

0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:17.960
<v Speaker 2>place to live because the minimum wage is not high enough.

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<v Speaker 7>That is what she is saying.

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<v Speaker 2>You see, I think it's not a nice place to

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<v Speaker 2>live because people like shooting at each other.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's also that who chose salmon as the color

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<v Speaker 3>for the activist shirts.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting choice.

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<v Speaker 15>Proponents are calling this a delay tactic since the county

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<v Speaker 15>has already certified the group has collected enough signatures about

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<v Speaker 15>one hundred and seventeen thousand to get it.

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<v Speaker 9>On a ballot.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't this how our direct democracy system is supposed to work.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't matter how weird the initiative is. If you

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<v Speaker 3>get the signatures, people get to vote on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you a question, give me an honest

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<v Speaker 2>answer here, knowing the politics of Alameda County, if they

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:05.440
<v Speaker 2>put an initiative on the ballot that mandated a one

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:07.639
<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars an hour minimum wage, do you think it

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<v Speaker 2>would pass.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, I do too.

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<v Speaker 4>The only thing they can do is delay it.

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<v Speaker 14>And so we already won. It's going to be on

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<v Speaker 14>the ballot, it's polling above seventy one percent. It's gonna pass.

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:20.960
<v Speaker 14>The only question is when.

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<v Speaker 3>So no history, by the way, this is a trend

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<v Speaker 3>going up and down the state of trying to walk

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<v Speaker 3>back these proposals. Let's not forget that. In Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 3>the LA City Council went ahead with this proposal to

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<v Speaker 3>increase the minimum wage for tourism workers to thirty dollars

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:40.639
<v Speaker 3>an hour by twenty twenty eight. If you're wondering what

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<v Speaker 3>is a tourism worker. It's not the guy who drives

0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 3>the TMZ bus in Hollywood. It's not the guy at Ripley's,

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:51.520
<v Speaker 3>believe it or not. It's hotel workers, including restaurant workers

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 3>at hotels and people that work concessions at the airport.

0:27:55.480 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 3>And there we was so much negative outlook on how

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<v Speaker 3>this was going to impact the hotel industry, that places

0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:05.880
<v Speaker 3>that we're going to expand were going to move out

0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 3>of the city of Los Angeles, that now they have decided, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe instead of by twenty twenty eight, maybe we'll do

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 3>it by twenty thirty. There's a whole big fight going

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<v Speaker 3>on right now, and the fight for thirty. People down

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:20.680
<v Speaker 3>there feel like they've been betrayed by the La City Council. Well,

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 3>had they passed that, Tom Bodett would turn the light

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<v Speaker 3>off for us.

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<v Speaker 7>And this is the funny thing about this.

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<v Speaker 3>Even with a thirty dollar an hour minimum wage, you

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:30.239
<v Speaker 3>can't get by on that.

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<v Speaker 7>No, it's never enough.

0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 3>The cost of living is way higher than what they're

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:38.480
<v Speaker 3>even asking for. So you know they're going to have

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<v Speaker 3>to go back again and raise it again. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it was only what seven years ago where we were

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<v Speaker 3>talking about fight for fifteen. I know there's been a

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 3>lot of inflation, but that's double what the big ask

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<v Speaker 3>for was just a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at what Klaus just put in the chat, all right,

0:28:55.480 --> 0:29:04.080
<v Speaker 2>class roll that pink is more pepto bismol than salmon.

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 2>Like there it is, Klausmeister one three to three. See.

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<v Speaker 3>The thing is, there's so much going on in the

0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 3>chat sometimes I have a hard time following it while

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 3>we're playing a news story. But we're glad everyone's having

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 3>a good time in there tonight.

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<v Speaker 15>With what would become the highest minimum wage in the

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 15>country if pass but voters will have to pick a side.

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 3>Barbara Lay wanted fifty. Is there a natural hair color

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<v Speaker 3>in that room? Who's wearing the bonnet?

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<v Speaker 7>Also? Is that a guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Soon enough?

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<v Speaker 16>The important thing to keep in mind here, though this

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 16>is unincorporated Alameda County. You look at the cities within

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<v Speaker 16>the county, Oakland, Berkeley, they already have their own minimum wages.

0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 16>This would not override that, but this would be really

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<v Speaker 16>impactful for workers who are working in the unincorporated parts

0:29:57.480 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 16>of the county.

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<v Speaker 3>In Alameda County, they're going to be so many people

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 3>if this passes that think this applies to them, and

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 3>then they find out that it doesn't apply to Fremont,

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't apply to Walnut Creek, it doesn't apply to Oakland,

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 3>and they're going to bring the pitchforks to the border supervisors.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine if that woman with pink hair finds out it

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 2>doesn't apply to her.

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 3>It was a guy wearing the bonnet, You're right, like, wait,

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:28.360
<v Speaker 3>his neck was too big news, So there you go.

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 3>The fight for thirty continues in Alameda County. They collected

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 3>enough signatures to get it on the ballot. But the

0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 3>Border Supervisors knows that it would be an economic disaster

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:42.680
<v Speaker 3>pushing all kinds of businesses outside of at least the

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 3>unincorporated parts of the county that they'd like to study

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 3>it for a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 2>If it doesn't apply to that ro Ton woman with

0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 2>the pink hair, my guess is she's going to break

0:30:54.520 --> 0:31:01.840
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<v Speaker 2>The high cost of living in the state of California

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 2>may prevent you from getting the office you've always wanted,

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 2>or the gym that you've always wanted, or the Christmas

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 2>wrapping room you've always wanted because your adult children are

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 2>never moving out.

0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 3>It has gotten so expensive to live in California that

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:47.400
<v Speaker 3>more and more young people are moving back in with

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 3>mom and dad. They call it the Costanza effect. For more,

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<v Speaker 3>here is CBS eight.

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<v Speaker 4>With Housing and Consumer prices sky high.

0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 14>Millions of adults are moving back home.

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<v Speaker 4>Jarika Dongan has more on the trend.

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<v Speaker 3>And get the guest room ready. Hope you didn't throw

0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 3>out any of my old sheets.

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<v Speaker 4>Talks with one woman now living with her parents.

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<v Speaker 9>Thirty four year old Carly Gudrow appears to be in

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 9>great shape physically, but financially it's been a struggle. This

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:20.959
<v Speaker 9>one is just super relatable. The business coach and content creator.

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 7>She can't make a living doing that.

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:30.680
<v Speaker 2>She should be able to do fine if she's a

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 2>successful content creator. Either that or Mary, a Japanese businessman.

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<v Speaker 9>In documenting the ups and downs, I am thirty four

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 9>years old.

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 3>I just moved back in with my parents for a

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 3>few months with my two Golden Retrievers.

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 9>So this is the room. This is the room, and

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 9>then this is the workspace. This is my office. It

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<v Speaker 9>looks terrible right now.

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:52.920
<v Speaker 7>He at least she's got a standing desk. I have

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<v Speaker 7>one of those.

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<v Speaker 9>When you think about what you imagined for your life

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<v Speaker 9>at thirty four, was it this?

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<v Speaker 2>No? Definitely not.

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<v Speaker 16>What do you do it?

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<v Speaker 9>Before moving back home, Carly says she was living with

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<v Speaker 9>her boyfriend in South Carolina on a sixty thousand dollars

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 9>a year salary.

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<v Speaker 3>Something you can do in South Carolina.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, not here.

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<v Speaker 9>But after they broke up, she couldn't afford to pay

0:33:18.680 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 9>rent alone.

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<v Speaker 11>To be able to afford that on top of your

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:25.200
<v Speaker 11>student loans, a car payment, it's really hard to function.

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<v Speaker 7>Jeeps ain't cheap.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's all working out for her, But now her

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 2>parents can't walk around on the nude.

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<v Speaker 1>Off of anything.

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<v Speaker 8>I believe like less than eighty five.

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<v Speaker 9>K according to realtor dot com.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think you can do okay on eighty five

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<v Speaker 7>k here.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 3>Especially San Diego. San Diego is expensive. By the way,

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<v Speaker 3>the number five market that watches this show is San Diego,

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:56.000
<v Speaker 3>La San Francisco, San Jose, Sacramento, San Diego. You listening, cogo.

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<v Speaker 9>A record twenty five point two million adults under thirty

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<v Speaker 9>five we're living with their parents in twenty twenty five.

0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 9>That's more than any point on record, including the COVID

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 9>nineteen pandemic peak.

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<v Speaker 7>Think about that.

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 3>There are more adult children living at home now than

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<v Speaker 3>during the lockdown.

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:19.400
<v Speaker 14>Society as a whole has to respond.

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 9>Wharton School of Business professor Susan Walkker has been studying

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:24.239
<v Speaker 9>this trend.

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 7>This affordability across the board. It's not just the price

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:31.520
<v Speaker 7>of home in the mortgage you rease for me.

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<v Speaker 9>Carly's parents say they welcome the full house.

0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:36.280
<v Speaker 7>For well, that's what they say.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if they're irritated with her being back at home,

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 2>they're not going to say that to the news.

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:46.840
<v Speaker 3>You're excited to have the house guest for May definitely

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:52.359
<v Speaker 3>the first week, maybe the second week. Then everything they

0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 3>do gets real old, real fast.

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:57.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, if those two go on the news and say

0:34:57.360 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 2>that their daughter's a free loader and getting on their

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:02.320
<v Speaker 2>last nur, they're going to have to sleep in shifts

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:04.480
<v Speaker 2>for adults.

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<v Speaker 9>Four dogs crossing paths once again.

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<v Speaker 7>So there you go.

0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 3>More and more adult children are moving back home because well,

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:19.920
<v Speaker 3>it's real expensive to make a living as a single

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 3>person nowadays.

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 2>You want a prediction, Yes, she's going to end up

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:25.960
<v Speaker 2>with that Japanese businessman.

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:29.200
<v Speaker 3>You know the fact that she moved in with mommy

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 3>and Daddy tells you that she doesn't want to end

0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:35.399
<v Speaker 3>up with the Japanese businessman. She is definitely attractive enough

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:38.840
<v Speaker 3>to attract any kind of sugar daddy. Steve Klupek single

0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 3>right now. She could go after him, but she's trying

0:35:41.640 --> 0:35:42.719
<v Speaker 3>to do it the right way.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, how long do you give it before they have

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:50.640
<v Speaker 2>a falling out? Because you can't have that many adults

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:52.880
<v Speaker 2>living under the same roof without a whole lot of

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:55.560
<v Speaker 2>fighting going on. Didn't you watch The Golden Girls.

0:35:57.719 --> 0:35:59.280
<v Speaker 7>That is a good point.

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:03.840
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna be at each other's throats almost immediately. People

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 2>need space. If I don't have my space, if people

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:11.800
<v Speaker 2>are staying over house guests for too long, I'm crawling

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:15.799
<v Speaker 2>the walls because house guests are like fish. After three

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:19.319
<v Speaker 2>days they start to stink. They stick around longer than that.

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:23.080
<v Speaker 2>And let me tell you, you're at each other's throats.

0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:26.319
<v Speaker 2>And if they're your adult children and you're used to

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:29.200
<v Speaker 2>telling them what to do, they're gonna hate you too.

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:33.720
<v Speaker 3>It's not gonna end well for anybody in this family,

0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 3>is it.

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:37.759
<v Speaker 2>No? No, If you have adult children moving back in

0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:39.920
<v Speaker 2>with mom and dad, it's gonna end in a nine

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Speaker 2>to one to one call for many of them.

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 3>Maybe someone watching CBS eight or someone watching this broadcast

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:50.439
<v Speaker 3>right now will see her story be like I want

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 3>her to be my whenever she is influencer, coach and Uh,

0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:58.400
<v Speaker 3>maybe she'll get enough business to move out on her own.

0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 3>Probably not in San Diego, but you'll have to go

0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:02.120
<v Speaker 3>up to fifteen to Riverside.

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:05.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, no, some guy is watching this thinking, I

0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 2>got plenty of our room for her at my house.

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<v Speaker 7>So there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody looks like more and more people are starting to

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<v Speaker 3>move back in with their parents. That is not a

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<v Speaker 3>good trend for the economy, but that's where we are

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<v Speaker 3>right now.

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