WEBVTT - Matt Maiocco on the best from 49ers training camp

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<v Speaker 1>Joining us on the UMA guest Line.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Mayoko does a great job covering the Niners for

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<v Speaker 2>NBC Sports Bay Area, and he's with on the UMA

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<v Speaker 2>Guest Line to talk a little bit about the Niners.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight days into training camp. Matt, how are you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing great, enjoying this Friday. Don't have to get

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<v Speaker 3>in my car and drive to Santa Clara. So uh,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll be back at it on on Saturday and Sunday

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<v Speaker 3>when the traffic's a little bit lighter. But no, everything's

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<v Speaker 3>everything's going well. We're both enjoying camp, are we.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it's always It's always enjoyable.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you are the pro who has the big camp hat.

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<v Speaker 1>I did buy a big camp hat. I just haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been able to really. It's like I can't. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I can't wear it. I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wearing baseball hats. I've got other hats because I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't. I can't wear I bought like a World

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<v Speaker 2>Cup sombrero, and it's just I don't know. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like it's gonna be too big of a statement to

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<v Speaker 2>wear it out there. So I've kind of I have it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I haven't actually busted it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet.

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<v Speaker 3>I even saw you wearing a backwards hat the other day. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I was, yeah, I mean you look like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you got the baggy shorts. He got the backwards hat.

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<v Speaker 3>You're you're appealing to the young crowd. Craig, there you.

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<v Speaker 1>Go, Thank you, thank you? Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh So, then I don't get you know, people donating

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<v Speaker 2>to my channel saying calling me unk.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting a lot of a lot of unk lately.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I want to ask you about Raheem Morris,

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<v Speaker 2>because Jade Dugger, the rookie from Louisiana, is a very

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<v Speaker 2>unique prospect. He was he's very young, he's the youngest

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<v Speaker 2>guy on the team. He's long, he's rangey, thirty five

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<v Speaker 2>inch arms. But he was running with the first team

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<v Speaker 2>defense this week and that kind of surprised me. Obviously

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<v Speaker 2>it's a very positive sign. But then we kind of

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<v Speaker 2>heard from Drake Greenlaw, the Fever linebacker. He mentioned the

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<v Speaker 2>Fever linebacker, and then Raheem's talking about, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of that hybrid player who's a kind of a star player,

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<v Speaker 2>or he used the word a spinner outside edge of

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<v Speaker 2>fender who can cover the slot receiver and tackle the

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<v Speaker 2>running back and rush the pastor And I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>this is kind of a new frontier here.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you axpecting?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think Jaden Dugger is kind of a one

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<v Speaker 2>of one or does he fit into a category with

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<v Speaker 2>guys like Nick Martin and Larry Wirth. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>is interesting. It's a whole new kind of wrinkle.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think he's completely different than those guys. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I do want to get Raheem at some

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<v Speaker 3>point to explain and maybe the next time he's up there,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, kind of explain maybe the job descriptions of

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<v Speaker 3>those different titles. But the way I see it is,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they're certainly doing whether it's experimenting or whether

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<v Speaker 3>it's this is what we're doing. I think it'll be

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of both here in training camp and

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<v Speaker 3>certainly in the joint practices and everything else. But I

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<v Speaker 3>think Jaden Dugger's background makes him uniquely qualified for what

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<v Speaker 3>the forty nine ers are looking for they deploy more

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<v Speaker 3>of those five man fronts. You know, he's got the size,

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<v Speaker 3>he's got the length, he's got the athleticism, he's got

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<v Speaker 3>the versatility. He played safety at Georgetown, he played edge

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<v Speaker 3>at Louisiana Lafayette. Then he played stack linebacker Louisiana Lafayette,

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<v Speaker 3>so he's done a little bit of everything. And when

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<v Speaker 3>you have a five man line and if they're only

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<v Speaker 3>defensive lineman, there's going to be some shortcomings because quite

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<v Speaker 3>obviously on passing situations, not all five guys are going

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<v Speaker 3>to be rushing on the same play, So there will

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<v Speaker 3>be times when that happens, but there will be a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of dropping and trying to create confusion for the

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<v Speaker 3>offensive line and for the quarterback. And so Douger gives

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<v Speaker 3>them a guy that is, you know, would be I

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<v Speaker 3>think by definition their best cover guy dropping into coverage,

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<v Speaker 3>but he also has the pass rush skills to do

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<v Speaker 3>that as well as playing the run and everything else.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think for what the forty nine ers are

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<v Speaker 3>looking at, I think that makes a lot more sense

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<v Speaker 3>than saying, have Luke Gifford as the third linebacker or

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<v Speaker 3>you know the linebacker slash d n that hybrid guy

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<v Speaker 3>who's you know, lines up on the at the line

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<v Speaker 3>of screamage. So I do think that early on, even

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<v Speaker 3>when they drafted him, he kind of thought like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>how exactly does he fit? And now as we watch

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<v Speaker 3>practice two weeks into practice, now we can see like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that makes a lot of sense why they would take

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<v Speaker 3>him and how they can find a way to get

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<v Speaker 3>him on the field right away.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt, I've seen reports of twenty guy the ninety man

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<v Speaker 2>camp roster dinged up. Some of these guys are it's

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<v Speaker 2>more precautionary. I think that if there was a game,

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<v Speaker 2>they probably would be playing.

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<v Speaker 1>But still it's a lot of injured guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Fister was asked the question the other day at

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<v Speaker 2>the presser, Hey, are the joint practices with the Titans,

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<v Speaker 2>you know in Jeopardy? And he made it seem like absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>not that it's like a full go, But then the

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<v Speaker 2>way he kind of stated it, it almost sounded like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe like he's obviously it's not his call directly,

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<v Speaker 2>but he is kind of the messenger at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you do you think that the Tennessee joint practice

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<v Speaker 2>is is it up in the air, Do you think

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<v Speaker 2>it's a slam dunk that it's gonna happen, or do

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<v Speaker 2>you think first or kind.

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<v Speaker 3>Of I don't know, I would think that they're gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna happen. Uh, but we'll see. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna stake my you know, my claim on that one.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, for the Titans, they would want to know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if if we were to happen, I think

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<v Speaker 3>they would have or if it wasn't gonna happen, I

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<v Speaker 3>would think that they would have already canceled it because

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<v Speaker 3>the Titans aren't going to be coming out here. What

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<v Speaker 3>would that be three days early for a preseason game,

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, they have to kind of figure out

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<v Speaker 3>what they're going to do. If you know, they're not

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<v Speaker 3>going to fly out on a Monday to practice on

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<v Speaker 3>Tuesday in Santa Clara and then the game's on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 3>so that's when the practice is scheduled to happen. The

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<v Speaker 3>joint practice would be on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I'm less alarmed by the actual reality of

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<v Speaker 3>the injuries during training camp than just putting out the

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<v Speaker 3>list every day. Of these are the guys who aren't practicing.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the one, the one injury that's the big one,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think it's far and away the biggest one.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't even know if there's a number two

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<v Speaker 3>injury that would be a reason for concern. It's Ricky Piersoll.

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<v Speaker 3>Why because he's out for the season. He's not going

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<v Speaker 3>to play this season. But every other injury. Maybe next

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<v Speaker 3>on the list would probably be Vederian Low, the swing tackle,

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<v Speaker 3>who got injured on the very first day of practice

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<v Speaker 3>and has a high inkle spring, so that's usually a

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<v Speaker 3>four to six week injury. But I don't know that

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<v Speaker 3>any of the other injuries. Maybe Jacob Cowing with the

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<v Speaker 3>hip flexer, I don't know. I mean, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>that any of these are at all concerning as it

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<v Speaker 3>relates to impacting the regular season. You know, the adductor

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<v Speaker 3>injury of Kylon Black, it depends on how serious that is.

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<v Speaker 3>Kean White has the same injury, at least described the

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<v Speaker 3>same way, the adductor, which is basically growing. But I

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<v Speaker 3>really see him out there. I already see him out

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<v Speaker 3>there working. I don't think the Mike Evans thing is

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<v Speaker 3>any big deal. I don't think Christian Kirk at this

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<v Speaker 3>point is a big deal because it looks like he's

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<v Speaker 3>running pretty well. Stribbling is already back. So you know

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<v Speaker 3>the one that I thought, oh, that could be a

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<v Speaker 3>bad one was Grayson Halton. You know, a bone bruise

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<v Speaker 3>of the knee. We've seen that turn into something bad,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's already back and making an impact felt. So

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<v Speaker 3>I don't see the injury situation. I know, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>people love to talk about it because of where that

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<v Speaker 3>practice facility is located and everything else in the history,

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<v Speaker 3>but I don't at this point. Again, I mean, things

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<v Speaker 3>can change, but at this point, I don't see the

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<v Speaker 3>forty nine ers being that adversely impacted from by injuries

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<v Speaker 3>other than pearsall. I mean, I look around the league

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<v Speaker 3>and I see, you know, Jayalen Walker with the Falcons

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<v Speaker 3>out for the year, Nick Scorton out for the year,

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<v Speaker 3>the other the draft pick for the Panthers as well,

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<v Speaker 3>Chris Brasel out for the year. So and the New

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<v Speaker 3>York Giants lost their seventeen games starting nose tackle out

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<v Speaker 3>for the year. So I don't see. To me, the

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<v Speaker 3>bigger concern is when's Kittle coming back. When's mikeel Williams

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<v Speaker 3>coming back off the pup list from injuries last year?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I think you're right, and we don't know

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<v Speaker 2>the answer to those questions quite yet. Robert Jones suddenly,

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<v Speaker 2>out of nowhere went from the backup to Connor Colby

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<v Speaker 2>at left guard to the starter at left guard, with

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<v Speaker 2>Colby running with the twos and threes and running some

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<v Speaker 2>reps at right guard. Do you think this is a

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<v Speaker 2>momentary thing? I mean, Barrows had written a piece that

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<v Speaker 2>Colby had commandeered this job, and it's almost like the

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<v Speaker 2>niners said, hey, hey, no, he has it, you know

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<v Speaker 2>we Jones has got to say some say here too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, literally, after that story hit the press, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like Jones was inserted as the starter at left guard.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think Jones is going to be the starter

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<v Speaker 2>at left guard or do you think it's he's the

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<v Speaker 2>starter for the moment?

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<v Speaker 3>I would I would think it's still Connor Colby. But

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<v Speaker 3>that was interesting I did early in training camp. I

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<v Speaker 3>asked Chris Furster, you know, is it possible that there's

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<v Speaker 3>no competition? You know, is it possible because open competition

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<v Speaker 3>implies that one guy's running with the ones one day,

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<v Speaker 3>the next day or maybe even later in the same practice,

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<v Speaker 3>the other guy's running with the ones, and they have

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<v Speaker 3>a competition. And it appeared to me that if cole

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<v Speaker 3>Be Kolbe was just going to stay in that job

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<v Speaker 3>as long as he gave the forty nine ers, no

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<v Speaker 3>reason to replace him first also said that, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll end up going with the best guy, but if

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<v Speaker 3>the best guy is Connor Colby from start to finish,

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<v Speaker 3>then then what you said is true. There won't be

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<v Speaker 3>any kind of back and forth. Let's have this guy

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<v Speaker 3>work with the one. So it was a little bit surprising,

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<v Speaker 3>and to me, it's an indication that whatever they're they're

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<v Speaker 3>looking at behind the scenes, film study, everything else, player

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<v Speaker 3>evaluation looks to me like it means that it's not

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<v Speaker 3>a fait a company that Connor Colby is the starter.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that Robert Jones had a great day

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<v Speaker 3>of practice yesterday when he was running with the ones,

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<v Speaker 3>so I would still kind of expect Colby to be that.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think it's also probably a reason for concern

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<v Speaker 3>that they felt the need to put somebody else in there,

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<v Speaker 3>because ideally you'd want your five guarding guys to just

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<v Speaker 3>line up day one and be that way, no deviations

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<v Speaker 3>at all through the end of the season, and that

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<v Speaker 3>certainly wasn't the case. So certainly be watching on practice

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<v Speaker 3>during practice on Saturday to see who's out there with

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<v Speaker 3>the ones.

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<v Speaker 2>Two quick hitters will Pauling, Junior berg and Jordan Watkins.

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<v Speaker 2>All these guys to me look like they're outshining Jacob Cowing.

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<v Speaker 2>Bergins really surprised me. But I while Pat Pauling is

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<v Speaker 2>coming on, he looks very solid catching punts. Watkins looks bigger, stronger, faster.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you see the same thing I'm seeing that It

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<v Speaker 2>seems like Cowing is falling behind these other receivers.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I would say falling behind the other receivers, but

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<v Speaker 3>his ticket is not as a receiver. I mean, what's

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<v Speaker 3>the same way that that Sky Moore, you know, was

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<v Speaker 3>a factor for the forty hours last year. He was

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<v Speaker 3>a factor without ever really stepping on the field and

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<v Speaker 3>playing offense. So Pauling is interesting. He would be kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a guy that could come out of the out

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<v Speaker 3>of the shadows and win that job. To meet Jordan

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<v Speaker 3>Walkins seems a little less comfortable handling punts. That's the key.

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<v Speaker 3>Whoever is the most sure handed, the most reliable, the

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<v Speaker 3>most comfortable handling punts is going to be one of

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<v Speaker 3>the receivers on the team and one of the guys

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<v Speaker 3>who's going to have a uniform on game days. So

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<v Speaker 3>I still think it's it's Cowing. However, this hip flexer

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<v Speaker 3>that we just talked about, if that keeps him out

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<v Speaker 3>a period of time, then that does open the door

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<v Speaker 3>for somebody else. But I would agree, as far as

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<v Speaker 3>you know plays being made as a wide receiver Cowing,

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<v Speaker 3>it hasn't been able to you know, last year he

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<v Speaker 3>had a lot of momentum going into camp and got injured.

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<v Speaker 3>This year, you know, the ford AMers expected him to

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<v Speaker 3>kind of step in where he left off last year

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<v Speaker 3>before he missed the entire season, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>that that's happened, so that there is is definitely a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of gray area when it comes to how that

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<v Speaker 3>wide receiver depth chart will look and how the punt

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<v Speaker 3>return aspect will really impact their final decision, because it

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<v Speaker 3>certainly looks like Deebo Samuel is going to be the

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<v Speaker 3>kickoff returner, but now who's going to be the punt returner.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Mioko with us on the Yuma Guest Line, covers

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<v Speaker 2>the Niners for NBC Sports Bay Area and does an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing job. Mattie will let you go, but today I'd

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<v Speaker 2>be remiss if I didn't ask you one about our friend,

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<v Speaker 2>our fallen friend, the Great late Great Dwight Clark. Today

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<v Speaker 2>is August seventh. Today is my twenty seventh wedding anniversary,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is also Dwight Clark Day. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up as a kid in this city. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was eleven when he scored that touchdown in the

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<v Speaker 2>corner of the end zone, and he was my idol.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he became a friend of mine and we

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<v Speaker 2>had a chance to go golf a few times and

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<v Speaker 2>do some events, and I miss him terribly. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>he was one of my favorite Niners, and then when

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<v Speaker 2>I got to know him, he became.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite Niner.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to spend a lot, a lot of time

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<v Speaker 2>with him and did a lot of great things with

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<v Speaker 2>d C before he passed, and got a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>visit with him. Just your recollections, Dwight Clark before we

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<v Speaker 2>let you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, I remember watching the Catch on my

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<v Speaker 3>couch in the U in northern California and little community Richfield,

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<v Speaker 3>where we could only get two channels at the time,

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<v Speaker 3>And to get to know him as you did. The

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<v Speaker 3>private thing that strikes me is it was the most

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<v Speaker 3>important play in forty nine Ers history and one of

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<v Speaker 3>the most impactful plays in NFL history and for it

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<v Speaker 3>to happen to the organization, for him to be the

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<v Speaker 3>author of that play, he always joked, you know, to

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Montana, they called it the catch, not the throw.

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<v Speaker 3>For it for it to be him. He was the

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<v Speaker 3>perfect person for that because of how he embraced it

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<v Speaker 3>and how he made every fan who came up to

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<v Speaker 3>him feel special, and when they would ask him about

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<v Speaker 3>the play or whatever, he acted like it was always

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<v Speaker 3>the first time anybody had ever come up to him

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<v Speaker 3>and asked about that. And so I remember one time, going, man,

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<v Speaker 3>does it ever? I'm sure we were someplace and two

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<v Speaker 3>or three people came up to him separately and they

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<v Speaker 3>walked away, and I said, does that ever get tiring

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<v Speaker 3>for you to talk about that? And he just stopped

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<v Speaker 3>dead in his tracks and he looked at me and

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<v Speaker 3>he goes, would you ever get tired about talking about

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<v Speaker 3>that play? And I'm like, you're absolutely not. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>get tired, and he goes, exactly. So he really embraced it,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was the perfect guy to be the man

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<v Speaker 3>who made the play that changed the organization.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what a kind soul he was, And man, I

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<v Speaker 2>miss him. I miss him a lot. Maddy, great stuff man,

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<v Speaker 2>you always doing an incredible stuff, incredible job. We love

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<v Speaker 2>your segments on The Leader. Thanks for jumping on.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Urug, thanks so much. I'll see tomorrow