WEBVTT - The Debate Over Data Centers

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<v Speaker 3>the news. It's a good time. It's very intimate, it's

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<v Speaker 3>just you and me. We start with the great data

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<v Speaker 3>center debate. CBSLA actually went inside a data center in Irvine,

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<v Speaker 3>and the first thing you need to know is that

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<v Speaker 3>this data center that they investigated has been open for

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<v Speaker 3>twenty years. I understand there are a lot of concerns

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<v Speaker 3>and there are a lot of fears about what's going

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<v Speaker 3>to happen with AI. Doesn't mean that a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of people are going to lose their jobs. I understand

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<v Speaker 3>all of that, but I feel like the fear among

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<v Speaker 3>specifically data centers and data centers don't necessarily even mean AI. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>this one in Irvine has been around for twenty years,

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<v Speaker 3>and some of the server space powers the data for hospitals,

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<v Speaker 3>some of it provides for other companies. All kinds of

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<v Speaker 3>businesses use servers and use data centers. Now, these aren't

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<v Speaker 3>as massive as the ones that are being talked about

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<v Speaker 3>in other states, but we've had these in California for

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<v Speaker 3>a very long time, and I think it's one of

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<v Speaker 3>those situations where rumors get spread on the internet, and

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<v Speaker 3>because it's hard for us in the age of the

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<v Speaker 3>Internet to really deem what's true, you hear something enough

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<v Speaker 3>times and you just believe it. So one of the

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<v Speaker 3>things that people say, oh, we don't want this, we

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<v Speaker 3>don't want the data centers is because of the noise.

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<v Speaker 3>Well there is noise inside the data center with all

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<v Speaker 3>the air conditioning running, but outside it just looks like

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<v Speaker 3>a regular industrial building. Now, you might not want these

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<v Speaker 3>in a residential neighborhood, that's fair, But in a place

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<v Speaker 3>that's zoned for industrial or anything, I don't really see

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<v Speaker 3>what the problem is here. The other big myth is

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<v Speaker 3>that is a huge drain on resources, that it is

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<v Speaker 3>a huge drain on power and a huge drain on water.

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<v Speaker 3>And that can be true for some of these data centers,

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<v Speaker 3>but a lot of them you're like, well, what is

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<v Speaker 3>the water use. The water use is from powering the

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<v Speaker 3>air conditioning, and you can use reclaimed and recycled water

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<v Speaker 3>for that, so you're not using the regular water supply.

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<v Speaker 3>And when it comes to the power, well, you can

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<v Speaker 3>do solar, you can do all kinds of things to

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<v Speaker 3>lower the impact on that. And honestly, I feel that

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<v Speaker 3>like the anger towards rising energy costs should be pointed

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<v Speaker 3>towards the energy companies that have found an excuse to

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<v Speaker 3>raise their prices because of all of this demand. Because

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<v Speaker 3>the other thing that we have learned, especially recently, is

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<v Speaker 3>the current demand isn't anywhere near what was expected, even

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<v Speaker 3>for all the AI data centers, because right now the

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<v Speaker 3>applications for AI are not as widespread as everyone hoped

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<v Speaker 3>it would be. Maybe we'll get there, you'll have the

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<v Speaker 3>tech CEOs always talking about, oh, this next update is

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<v Speaker 3>the game changer. But at the beginning of the year,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of companies that we're investing in building more

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<v Speaker 3>of these data centers and building more infrastructures change their

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<v Speaker 3>business model to actually leasing out the space they already

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<v Speaker 3>have because the demand is going way down. When you

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<v Speaker 3>talk about things like chat, GPT, and Claude. There are

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<v Speaker 3>people that use it just as a curiosity. But when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to does it actually increase efficiency, increase sales

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<v Speaker 3>in all kinds of businesses that we're paying for all

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<v Speaker 3>of these credits to be determined. So maybe the demand

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<v Speaker 3>will rise and maybe we will need it, but right

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<v Speaker 3>now I feel like that is overblown as well. And again,

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<v Speaker 3>these things power way more than AI. They power all

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<v Speaker 3>kinds of things cloud computing. For instance, I do the

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<v Speaker 3>live broadcast of the John Phillips Show through a web

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<v Speaker 3>app called Restream, and Restream, which I love, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>works out really well for us. It takes my Internet connection,

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<v Speaker 3>whether I'm broadcasting from the radio station, whether I'm broadcasting

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<v Speaker 3>from home, which I'm doing right now, or whether I'm

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<v Speaker 3>broadcasting from a hotel room with just a basic hotel

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<v Speaker 3>Internet connection, and it takes my feed. And then I

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<v Speaker 3>connect to somebody like John Phillips and it takes his feed.

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<v Speaker 3>And then let's say we add a guest like Jennifer

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<v Speaker 3>Van Laher or Mike Netter or Seneca Scott, it takes

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<v Speaker 3>in their feed. The whole show is actually being hosted,

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<v Speaker 3>not on my computer with my bandwidth. It's being hosted

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<v Speaker 3>at a data center on a server farm. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>even know where the cloud computing is hosting everything, using

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<v Speaker 3>all the bandwidth, and then pushing out our product to

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<v Speaker 3>YouTube and Facebook and Twitter and Twitch all at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time. That would not be possible without data centers.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, this one's more of a lark.

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<v Speaker 3>But the silly little graphics that I create for this show,

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<v Speaker 3>and obviously for the John Phillips Show, those use AI,

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<v Speaker 3>and well people seem to be a big fan of those.

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<v Speaker 3>And look, I think AI is slowly doing a whole

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of things to make our lives a little easier

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<v Speaker 3>here and there. And I do understand there are fears,

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<v Speaker 3>but this is also people just get into these knee

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<v Speaker 3>jerk reactions, which turns into what is plagued California for many,

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<v Speaker 3>many men years. And there are legitimate concerns around every corner.

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<v Speaker 3>We've even had guests this week where we talk to

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<v Speaker 3>people that were opposed to a development in Woodland Hills.

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<v Speaker 3>We talk to people that were opposed to a bus

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<v Speaker 3>rapid transit line in Burbank, and there are legitimate.

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<v Speaker 2>Concerns to both of those.

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<v Speaker 3>Course, there are, especially when it comes to clogging up

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<v Speaker 3>the streets with a bus rapid transit line. When it

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<v Speaker 3>also comes to making sure that there is fire access

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<v Speaker 3>for building a development in the Woodland Hills fire zone area.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand all of that, but this is the attitude

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<v Speaker 3>that got California to a point where we don't build

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<v Speaker 3>things and it takes forever to build things. This kind

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<v Speaker 3>of attitude of well, we don't want this and we

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<v Speaker 3>don't want that, because these things are coming whether you

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<v Speaker 3>like them or not, and we can either take the

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<v Speaker 3>economic benefit we get from them, or they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be built in Texas, They're going to be built in Utah.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't want.

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<v Speaker 3>Them literally in your neighborhood, okay, but what's the big

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<v Speaker 3>deal about having one of these in an industrial center?

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<v Speaker 3>Because again, the top line thing that you need to

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<v Speaker 3>know if you're freaked out about data centers is we've

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<v Speaker 3>had them for a very long time and you only

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<v Speaker 3>realize that recently, and you only realized what they were recently.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think a lot of these fears are completely unfounded.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether it's the noise, whether it is.

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<v Speaker 3>The use of resources, or the proliferation of AI. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just a building with a bunch of servers in air conditioning,

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<v Speaker 3>so I do not. I think this is one of

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<v Speaker 3>these things where people hear something and they play telephone

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<v Speaker 3>or fantastic board game, tell illustrations.

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<v Speaker 2>Look it up. You will love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Where you hear something, you repeat it to somebody else,

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<v Speaker 3>except it's not the exact same thing, and then they

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<v Speaker 3>repeat it to somebody else, and then all of sudden

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<v Speaker 3>you have a situation like I wasn't gonna tell this story,

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<v Speaker 3>but I have to because it is the funniest thing

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<v Speaker 3>that I have heard all week. So one of my

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<v Speaker 3>closest friends is a big fan of sparkling water. As

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<v Speaker 3>I am, I am drinking a Trader Joe's Tangerine Vanilla

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<v Speaker 3>sparkling water.

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<v Speaker 2>As we do this show very good.

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<v Speaker 3>My friend really likes the brand Liquid Death, which is

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<v Speaker 3>some of the smartest marketing I have ever seen. They

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<v Speaker 3>came out around COVID and it is just water, bottled water,

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<v Speaker 3>flavored water, well not bottled but canned water, flavored water,

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<v Speaker 3>sparkling water and like much healthier soda option. But they

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<v Speaker 3>call themselves Liquid Death, and the branding is fantastic, especially

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<v Speaker 3>for people that you know, want to hold something that

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<v Speaker 3>looks like they're drinking a tall Boy, but they don't

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<v Speaker 3>drink It is a very, very, very popular brand. So

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<v Speaker 3>we're doing trivia the other night with my friend and

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<v Speaker 3>she tells me that she and her girlfriend are no

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<v Speaker 3>longer drinking Liquid Death and I'm like, wait, you love

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<v Speaker 3>Liquid Death and the girlfriend's like, yeah, she won't let

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<v Speaker 3>me drink it anymore. She saw on TikTok that it

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<v Speaker 3>contains arsenic and I said, what, There's no way that's true,

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<v Speaker 3>and she said, yeah, no, that's what I saw. And

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<v Speaker 3>so she had autoshipments of Liquid Death on Amazon that

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<v Speaker 3>she canceled and then switched to another less tasty brand.

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<v Speaker 3>So we asked, can you send us this video?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll look for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Why again, do you think that it's not safe to

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<v Speaker 3>drink this stuff that's in every single grocery store. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>well they banded in Europe. Do a quick Google search.

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<v Speaker 3>No they didn't do a quick Google search. Does Liquid

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<v Speaker 3>Death have arsenic in it?

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<v Speaker 2>No it doesn't. So I'm so confused.

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<v Speaker 3>Where did she get this information and why does she

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<v Speaker 3>think Liquid Death contains arsenic to the point where she

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<v Speaker 3>had to completely change her drinking habits of sparkling water.

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<v Speaker 3>The next day, she sends us a text message in

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<v Speaker 3>one of our friend group chats, Hey, I found the video.

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<v Speaker 3>It didn't even say anything about liquid death. That was

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<v Speaker 3>completely wrong about that. I've reordered the stuff. And this

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<v Speaker 3>is what happens in our age of too much information.

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<v Speaker 3>You hear something, maybe you have an emotional reaction to it,

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe you are only half listening or half paying attention,

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<v Speaker 3>as we all do when we're doom scrolling on our phone,

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<v Speaker 3>and all of a sudden, something that you heard wrong

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<v Speaker 3>or you weren't really paying attention to gets edged in

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<v Speaker 3>your brain as fact, and it makes you make irrational

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<v Speaker 3>decisions based on nothing. Now I'm not directly comparing the

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<v Speaker 3>liquid death thing with the fear over data centers, but

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's very important that we all get educated

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<v Speaker 3>on the subject. Realize that these are just buildings with servers.

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<v Speaker 3>We've had them for decades, and they're not really that

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<v Speaker 3>big of a deal. And so while it might feel

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<v Speaker 3>real good emotionally to ban them in places like Monterey

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<v Speaker 3>Park and Gilroy doesn't want them on unused farmland, that

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<v Speaker 3>just means that your cities are going to lose out

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<v Speaker 3>on the tax benefits, on the job benefits, and all

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<v Speaker 3>kinds of other things, because we have arbitrarily decided that

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<v Speaker 3>this business is bad and it is based on a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of whoy.

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<v Speaker 2>That is at least my opinion.

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<v Speaker 3>If you have a different opinion, maybe you find yourself

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<v Speaker 3>to be more educated on this subject than me.

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<v Speaker 2>Send me an email.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very easy to do so at randywangradio at gmail

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<v Speaker 3>dot com. That's Randy Wang radio at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>I have no problem with the data centers. Again, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>you think it's a noise thing. Well, if you live

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<v Speaker 3>next to one and there's a lot of noise, please

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<v Speaker 3>tell me about it. Because I literally had somebody. When

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<v Speaker 3>we were talking about this the other day. We got

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of response on the email, including from one

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<v Speaker 3>guy who sent me a message, well, I heard they're

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<v Speaker 3>really loud. Yeah, but did you hear the loud noises?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you were you next to one? Or did you

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<v Speaker 3>just hear that from somebody who heard it from somebody else.

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<v Speaker 3>This is true for so many different aspects of our life.

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<v Speaker 3>It's why you know, as somebody that delivers the news

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<v Speaker 3>to you, I trade and make sure that I'm never

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<v Speaker 3>pushing out any unwonted fears, and I have my facts

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<v Speaker 3>straight on everything. Even though I'm not technically a journalist,

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<v Speaker 3>I still feel that I have to do that as

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<v Speaker 3>I give you the news. It's the News Blitz with

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<v Speaker 3>Randy Wang on Talk Radio seven ninety KABC. It's the

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<v Speaker 3>News Blitz with Randy Wang on KABC. In the age

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<v Speaker 3>of technology that we are moving into, there is a

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<v Speaker 3>Bay Area startup that has started to put out there

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<v Speaker 3>robot maids, and this is way more than a roomba,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's still not Rosy the robot and Rosy the

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<v Speaker 3>robot didn't really have like the best hands to be

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<v Speaker 3>picking up things and sweeping and mopping, but it worked

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<v Speaker 3>in a cartoon. But we are at a point where

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to start seeing robotics. I've been listening to

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of podcasts on this stuff lately, and there

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<v Speaker 3>are some things that AI and robotics can do better

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<v Speaker 3>than humans. But when it comes to like physical manipulation

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<v Speaker 3>of things with your hands, robots are not nearly as

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<v Speaker 3>adept as we are, and will not be for a very,

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<v Speaker 3>very very long time. When you talk about specifically things

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<v Speaker 3>like cleaning, when you talk about things like sweeping up

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<v Speaker 3>loading things into a dishwasher, being gentle. It's that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of technology. Work quite a while from and they say, well,

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<v Speaker 3>the maids that we have, it will be at a

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<v Speaker 3>cheap price. I think it's like thirty dollars an hour

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<v Speaker 3>for the robot. But how efficient is the robot. We

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<v Speaker 3>have maids and we love them. My wife realized a

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<v Speaker 3>long time ago that if she did not get house cleaner,

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<v Speaker 3>she was gonna murder me. And we pay our maid

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<v Speaker 3>and it's a woman and her niece and they come

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<v Speaker 3>every two weeks. Pay them one hundred and forty dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes our life way easier. I don't see replacing

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<v Speaker 3>them with robots ever, because I trust these people. They

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<v Speaker 3>do a fantastic job, and I feel like I am

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<v Speaker 3>contributing to the economy in a great way. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>not only am I getting a huge benefit out of it,

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<v Speaker 3>but they're making money.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see hiring a robot to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Even if it is a little cheaper, because well, for

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<v Speaker 3>certain things, maybe you want that personal touch, maybe you don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe you'd rather have a robot that's just sweeping around

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<v Speaker 3>your house all day long.

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<v Speaker 2>That's definitely possible.

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<v Speaker 3>Does this mean though, that we are slowly but surely

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<v Speaker 3>getting into the Wally future that was predicted in that

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<v Speaker 3>movie from two thousand and eight, you know, the little

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<v Speaker 3>one with the robot Wally and Eva. You remember how

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<v Speaker 3>all the humans in that movie lived on an intergalactic

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<v Speaker 3>cruise ship and they were all five hundred pounds on

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<v Speaker 3>floating movable recliners and couldn't do anything for themselves. Are

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<v Speaker 3>we at the beginning of that story? Is that possible?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean maybe in like a few hundred years, Although

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<v Speaker 3>if you listen to the AI CEOs, like next year,

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<v Speaker 3>AI is going to be smarter than every human combined.

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<v Speaker 2>And what is that going to mean? I don't really know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think the AI robot maids are going to

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<v Speaker 3>be completely changing that industry anytime soon. Some industries they will.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't see for that one happening. It at least

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<v Speaker 3>in the next few years. I'll be keeping my mates.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much. Hey, if you've ever missed in

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<v Speaker 3>With Randy Wang on Talk Radio seven ninety KABC. This

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<v Speaker 3>is your daily rundown of everything you need to know

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<v Speaker 3>that is going on in southern California as well as

0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:02.280
<v Speaker 3>the Bay Area, Sacramento, San Diego, and the Central Valley.

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<v Speaker 3>I compile a list every single day of all the

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<v Speaker 3>stories that I think you need to know about, the

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<v Speaker 3>stories that I found interesting. You know, I usually go

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<v Speaker 3>through about thirty stories and I whittle it down to

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen to twenty. So there's plenty of stuff that I

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<v Speaker 3>listen to them like this is not worth your time,

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<v Speaker 3>but there is stuff that I find interesting that you

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<v Speaker 3>find interesting that affects us, and it's all local. You

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<v Speaker 3>will almost never hear me talk about national or international politics,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's a specific reason for that. There are plenty

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<v Speaker 3>of other places where you can get that information on

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<v Speaker 3>every side of the political spectrum. But for the most part,

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<v Speaker 3>this show is apolitical. It's about what's going on locally,

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<v Speaker 3>and we talk about things that affect you, maybe in

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<v Speaker 3>a lot bigger sense than what goes on in Washington

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<v Speaker 3>or what goes on around the world. One of the

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<v Speaker 3>things that California is known for is being the big

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<v Speaker 3>bigas state in the Union to have legal cannabis. We

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<v Speaker 3>weren't the first, but we definitely are the biggest, and

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<v Speaker 3>cannabis tourism is a thing, and we have done a

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<v Speaker 3>whole lot of things recently to make it easier in

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<v Speaker 3>the state of California to consume cannabis, including now you

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<v Speaker 3>can buy food and drink at the pot lounges and

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<v Speaker 3>make it feel like Amsterdam at a coffee shop. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>spoiler alert, if you're ever in Amsterdam, the coffee shops

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<v Speaker 3>are not coffee shops, and if you're actually looking for coffee,

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<v Speaker 3>it can be kind of confusing. And no, I did

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<v Speaker 3>not parteke in any space cakes or hashish or smoking

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<v Speaker 3>in Amsterdam, because well, that part of my life is over.

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<v Speaker 3>I did have Heineken and let me just tell you

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<v Speaker 3>if you're ever in Amsterdam and you think Heineken taste

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<v Speaker 3>like butt, which I did for many years, it's because

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<v Speaker 3>it does not travel well. If you have it at

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<v Speaker 3>the source, it's one of the best beers you will

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<v Speaker 3>ever taste. Am still light the exact same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll get to the legal cannabis industry in a second,

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<v Speaker 3>but I feel like I have to make this pitch

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<v Speaker 3>to you. One of the things that I have really

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<v Speaker 3>really loved in my travels around the world, which is

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<v Speaker 3>something that I've only been doing for a little while now,

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<v Speaker 3>is trying the local beverages. And while I do love

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<v Speaker 3>wine and I do love spirits, and even in when

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<v Speaker 3>I was in Amsterdam, I learned about Jinnvader, the Dutch

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<v Speaker 3>version of gin, and I thought it was very good,

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<v Speaker 3>especially when you do a kopstut, which is Dutch for headbutt,

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<v Speaker 3>where you drink the Jinnovader with the beer back. Not

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<v Speaker 3>as a shot, because again I'm forty, but I really

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<v Speaker 3>love trying the local beers of a foreign country. I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like you get a really good flavor not only

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<v Speaker 3>for the country that you're in, but also the city

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<v Speaker 3>that you're in and of course, when you're in Dublin,

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna try the Guinness, and I love the Guinness.

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<v Speaker 3>Guinness was like, oh yeah, it's pretty good. And then

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<v Speaker 3>you go to Dublin, you go to Ireland where it

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<v Speaker 3>is made, and it is fantastic. But there are other

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<v Speaker 3>Irish stouts that you may not know about. Beamish. I

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<v Speaker 3>thought Beamish was fantastic. I tried a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>different Irish beers and was very happy, including a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of Irish craft beers and some IPAs. When I was

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<v Speaker 3>in Amsterdam, of course you had Honeken and amstell Light.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I was in Toronto last week, I tried

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<v Speaker 3>so many different Canadian beers and specifically all of them

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<v Speaker 3>from the Ontario province and local ones. Found this bar

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<v Speaker 3>called beer Town, which was it was maybe my favorite

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<v Speaker 3>place we went to. Well, the steakhouse was pretty good,

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<v Speaker 3>but that place was pretty excellent, and you could get

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<v Speaker 3>a plank of four different local beers and they had

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<v Speaker 3>one that was all different kinds of loggers, one that

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<v Speaker 3>was all different kinds of IPAs, one that was all

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<v Speaker 3>different kinds of sour. I got such a great taste

0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:04.280
<v Speaker 3>for it, and I'm not a big beer drinker at

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<v Speaker 3>home because my wife has a glute analogy. But when

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<v Speaker 3>I'm traveling, it is a fun way to experience what

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<v Speaker 3>the locals enjoy, especially when you're talking about the craft

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<v Speaker 3>beer world, which you know it's huge here, especially in

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<v Speaker 3>places like San Diego.

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<v Speaker 2>But I love.

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<v Speaker 3>Trying that stuff internationally Anyway. Some people don't like to drink.

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<v Speaker 3>They like pot and whatever works for you. I learned

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<v Speaker 3>about eight years ago that pot does not work for me.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes me way too lazy, It makes me way

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<v Speaker 3>too what's the opposite of ambitious? That But if it's

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<v Speaker 3>good for you, I mean, it also gave me crippling

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<v Speaker 3>anxiety the older I got. So I feel like for

0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:49.280
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people it turns on you at some point.

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<v Speaker 3>But if it's what you like, and maybe you just

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<v Speaker 3>do the CBD, what have you. The problem with the

0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:59.840
<v Speaker 3>legal cannabis industry in California is the way that we

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<v Speaker 3>implemented it was incredibly stupid. Now there are some major

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<v Speaker 3>hurdles because it's still illegal at the federal level, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I was just hearing on the news today

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:14.840
<v Speaker 3>that this is still actually I heard it in this story, Mike,

0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:16.920
<v Speaker 3>where did I hear this, Oh the story that I'm

0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:19.480
<v Speaker 3>talking about from ABC ten as I was driving to

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<v Speaker 3>my pilates class that you know, the federal government is

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<v Speaker 3>still debating taking cannabis off of the Schedule one, which

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<v Speaker 3>I thought the President like said, we're doing that, but

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's one of those things where everyone talks

0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:36.159
<v Speaker 3>about it and it takes Congress of bazillion years to

0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:40.080
<v Speaker 3>do anything. But one of the issues with cannabis being

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<v Speaker 3>a Schedule one drug being classified in the same categories

0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:48.280
<v Speaker 3>as cocaine and meth is it makes all of the

0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:52.879
<v Speaker 3>legal cannabis businesses, whether you're talking about in California or

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<v Speaker 3>in Colorado, what have you, not eligible to participate in

0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 3>the banking system. They cannot use banks for their business,

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:07.760
<v Speaker 3>which means a lot of them keep all of their

0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:12.160
<v Speaker 3>cash on the premises in a safe, which means these

0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:16.199
<v Speaker 3>places are very likely to get robbed. I don't like that,

0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 3>especially if they are operating within the letter of the law.

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:22.200
<v Speaker 3>We should have a banking system that works for them.

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<v Speaker 3>So hopefully that gets resolved pretty soon. But there are

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<v Speaker 3>other major challenges, which mostly have to do with California

0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:37.639
<v Speaker 3>over taxing this product. And by the way, you should

0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:40.840
<v Speaker 3>ask yourself where all that money has gone towards? All

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:46.240
<v Speaker 3>the tax revenue money from the cannabis tax, which was

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 3>supposed to go towards things like drug treatment. You ever

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:52.880
<v Speaker 3>wonder what it's really going towards. I bet you lots

0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:58.000
<v Speaker 3>of it's going towards harm reduction and other weird nonprofits

0:26:58.000 --> 0:27:00.879
<v Speaker 3>that what have you. But let's fore get about where

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:03.720
<v Speaker 3>the money's going. But it is very interesting to wonder

0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:08.560
<v Speaker 3>where it is. And let's just talk about why they're

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:13.719
<v Speaker 3>making it so expensive yet not going after the illegal market.

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<v Speaker 2>Because when Prop. Sixty four was on.

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<v Speaker 3>The ballot in what twenty sixteen, twenty eighteen, it was

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<v Speaker 3>sold as we're going to wipe out the black market

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:29.720
<v Speaker 3>by legalizing this product that everyone was smoking anyway because

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:34.679
<v Speaker 3>of their medical cards. I had a medical card because

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:38.200
<v Speaker 3>I had insomnia and then my wife flies. You realize

0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:45.639
<v Speaker 3>that is causing you you're insomnia. Yes, well, now we

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 3>legalized it. We taxed it so high. Where the effective

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:54.160
<v Speaker 3>tax rate for a cannabis purchase, when you're talking about

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 3>the excise taxes and the sales tax and the taxes

0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 3>the businesses have to pay it, it's like forty percent

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:04.159
<v Speaker 3>of what it costs to grow the stuff, and then

0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 3>there's taxes on top of that, so the product is

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 3>artificially more expensive than it needs to be. And that's

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:16.399
<v Speaker 3>fine if there's nowhere else you can get it. But

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:22.639
<v Speaker 3>there are plenty of people who can buy this stuff illegally,

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 3>whether it's just through a dealer somebody you know that's

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:28.440
<v Speaker 3>growing it. Because anybody can grow it, even though you're

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:30.840
<v Speaker 3>not really supposed to unless you have a permit. Anybody

0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:33.919
<v Speaker 3>could grow it, you know. I had friends that had

0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 3>little grows. I never tried to do that. I can

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 3>barely take care of the plants we have in the house.

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh boy, I forget to water my wife's plant in

0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 3>the office for the last three weeks. Okay, I need

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 3>to do that as soon as I get off the air.

0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 3>Should be fine, right maybe whoops? Yeah, so I was

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 3>never a grower. Don't use that as a drop. When

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 3>you have situation where you've made it very expensive to

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 3>do things the right way and there is little to

0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 3>no punishment for doing things the wrong way, to the

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 3>point where you have illegal grows that are well known,

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:14.280
<v Speaker 3>and you want to talk about something that is using

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:18.560
<v Speaker 3>a lot of water. The illegal cannabis grows in places

0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 3>like the Antelote Valley. That's something you should be way

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:25.959
<v Speaker 3>more upset about than data centers, because those are definitely

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 3>using a ridiculous amount of water to grow those crops,

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 3>and they're not paying for the water rights, and they're

0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 3>operating illegally. They don't have licenses. They are selling at

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 3>forty percent lower because they're not paying the taxes and

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 3>we're not enforcing those laws. Whether it's just there's the

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 3>occasional bus that you see, but the thing that really

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:52.920
<v Speaker 3>really really kind of just irked me earlier this year,

0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 3>it was like, wait, what almost had to do a

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<v Speaker 3>double take when I heard this.

0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Listen to an LA City.

0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 3>Council meeting because apparently our current city attorney, who was

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<v Speaker 3>so bad at her job she got knocked out in

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 3>the primary, says that they have no power to shut

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:16.640
<v Speaker 3>down an illegally operating pot store, whether it's a smoke

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 3>shop that's selling things they're not supposed to, somebody that

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 3>moved into a storefront that is leasing from a commercial

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:26.320
<v Speaker 3>property in a strip mall, but they do not have

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 3>a license. We cannot shut them down. Why I don't

0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 3>understand it. I have the same issue when it comes

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 3>to the very obvious illicit massage parlors. I have a

0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 3>strip mall, and I'll mention this all the time because

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 3>it's so funny. There's a strip mall near my house.

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 3>It's next to a seven to eleven. There are four

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 3>potential stores that could be in there. Two of them

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 3>are out of business, one's been vacant forever, one's at

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 3>bakery that definitely closed a couple of years ago. But

0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 3>the two things that are thriving in there a smoke

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 3>shop that is selling a whole bunch of stuff that

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:08.280
<v Speaker 3>should be illegal, like kretum and selling stuff I'm sure

0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 3>that is illegal like pot. And what's next to it

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 3>a massage parlia with flashing lights.

0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 2>That say open late at night.

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 3>And I always wonder if the reason a city attorney

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:25.920
<v Speaker 3>in a place like Los Angeles doesn't shut them down

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 3>is because and why the landlords of these strip malls

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 3>aren't evicting these tenants is because it's like who else

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:38.840
<v Speaker 3>is going to move in? And are we all on

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 3>this commercial real estate bubble that is going to burst?

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 3>Where if we actually shut down all these criminal enterprises,

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 3>well then there'd be nobody to pay the rent to

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 3>the landlord, and the strip malls would all go bankrupt.

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 2>Just something to think about. It is interesting.

0:31:55.480 --> 0:32:01.200
<v Speaker 3>There is a establish a place on Woodland and Victory,

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 3>near the old Vayarta near Metro. That is, it's a

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 3>strip mall that has been empty for a very long time.

0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 3>There's one building that is zoned to be a pot

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:15.440
<v Speaker 3>store that nobody will move into. There's one building that's

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 3>zoned to be a restaurant, and every restaurant goes out

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 3>of business in six months. Currently both places are completely

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 3>empty and the only thing that does any business there

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 3>is a Leo's Taco truck because everyone loves that alpast

0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:31.720
<v Speaker 3>or taco. But it's like we've made it so impossible

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:34.560
<v Speaker 3>to do business the right way that there's been an

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:37.480
<v Speaker 3>empty storefront that is zoned for this in a very

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 3>highly populated area and nobody wants to move in because

0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:46.000
<v Speaker 3>we can't shut down the illegal competition, which is unacceptable.

0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 3>So this brings me to the insane thing that I

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:51.320
<v Speaker 3>heard at the La City Council, something that people voted

0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 3>on in June. Well, we can't shut down the illegally

0:32:56.680 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 3>operating pot stores. So what if instead of shutting them

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:06.479
<v Speaker 3>down we sent them a bill to pay taxes, and

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 3>it is something that people voted on in June, and

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:12.360
<v Speaker 3>the residents of the Los Angeles, whether they understood what

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 3>that proposition was or didn't, voted to pass it. So

0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:23.400
<v Speaker 3>good luck collecting the taxes on that. Until we knock

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 3>down the illegal market and actually take it seriously. The

0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 3>illegal pop market is bigger today than it was before

0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 3>Prop sixty four. And until we lower the taxes in

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:40.040
<v Speaker 3>the fees to where they are reasonable that people can

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 3>not only operate as a business the right way, but

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:49.000
<v Speaker 3>the consumer isn't so priced out that they will purchase

0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:52.960
<v Speaker 3>it the right way. This market is a complete mess,

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:58.240
<v Speaker 3>and it completely deflates the argument that the super libertarians

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 3>have that I probably had when I was in my twenties,

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:04.440
<v Speaker 3>that well, why don't we just legalize all drugs because

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 3>that would get rid of the black market. Nope, not

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:10.440
<v Speaker 3>the way California did it.

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:11.360
<v Speaker 2>It's the News.

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 3>Blitz with Randy Wang on KABC. It's the News Blitz

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:24.920
<v Speaker 3>with Randy Wang on KABC. The City Attorney of San Francisco,

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:28.840
<v Speaker 3>David Chu is cracking down on what he calls hotel

0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:33.919
<v Speaker 3>booking scams where you're looking for a hotel room. Maybe

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:36.840
<v Speaker 3>it's in San Francisco, maybe it's in a place like Wyoming,

0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:40.800
<v Speaker 3>and you Google. What you think is you know, where's

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:44.239
<v Speaker 3>the best deal. You think you're clicking on the hotel's website,

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:47.720
<v Speaker 3>but it is a third party website that is charging

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:52.319
<v Speaker 3>all kinds of fees, and it's way more expensive than

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:54.800
<v Speaker 3>it should have been, and trying to get a refund

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:57.799
<v Speaker 3>because you bought it at the wrong place is almost impossible.

0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:00.920
<v Speaker 3>The city attorney wants to shut the kind of practice down.

0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 3>By the way, doesn't this sound exactly like the need

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:08.280
<v Speaker 3>tags websites that the state of California allows to operate

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 3>because they're profiting from those ripoff fees. Interesting thing to

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 3>think about. Here's what I will say, as somebody that

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 3>books hotels quite frequently, I never use Google to try

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:29.760
<v Speaker 3>to figure out where's the best place to stay because Google,

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 3>which is a service that I use a lot. I mean,

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:36.759
<v Speaker 3>YouTube is Google. I watch almost everything on that. I've

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:39.400
<v Speaker 3>had a Gmail account since two thousand and nine and

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:42.920
<v Speaker 3>it is my file cabinet for life. I use Google

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:45.480
<v Speaker 3>Gemini to make the AI images for this show and

0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:49.240
<v Speaker 3>The John Phillips Show. But when I'm doing a Google search.

0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:54.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm well aware that so many of the search results

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 3>for things like when you're shopping for a hotel, well,

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:03.880
<v Speaker 3>they are coming from sponsored content and third party links.

0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 3>And it's one thing to search for a hotel, look

0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 3>up like on the map where the hotels are, and

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:14.799
<v Speaker 3>then find the real website for the hotel chain or

0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:18.759
<v Speaker 3>the hotel if it's an independent operator. But it is

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 3>so much smarter too if it is, like you know,

0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:24.400
<v Speaker 3>if you're looking for stuff that are Hilton or Marriott properties,

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:27.360
<v Speaker 3>go straight on their websites, go on their apps.

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:29.240
<v Speaker 2>You can even pay for some things with points.

0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 3>You might get better rates any of these third party sites,

0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:34.920
<v Speaker 3>whether it be the big ones that you know about,

0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:39.440
<v Speaker 3>the travelocities, the expedias, or all of these ones that

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:42.319
<v Speaker 3>like when you shop on Google for a hotel, it'll

0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:44.880
<v Speaker 3>be like, well, this website says it's way cheaper than

0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:48.560
<v Speaker 3>everything else. Sometimes those are a scam, so try to

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:52.799
<v Speaker 3>book directly with everybody, or you know, sometimes I sound

0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 3>like a show for it, and I'd love to be

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 3>somebody that endorses this. But the credit card companies really

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:04.400
<v Speaker 3>do a great job with booking travel, specifically American Express.

0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:07.680
<v Speaker 3>We've booked hotels through them, especially when we're trying to

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:10.839
<v Speaker 3>use those hotel credits to go to places like San Francisco.

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 3>They make the process really easy. And if you have

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:17.920
<v Speaker 3>American Express, it's like you have a little travel agent

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:20.640
<v Speaker 3>in your pocket that can make the system a lot easier.

0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:24.160
<v Speaker 3>And you know that you're getting a good price, you

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 3>know that you're getting good points, and you know that

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:30.879
<v Speaker 3>if there's any situation that comes up, the credit card

0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:34.279
<v Speaker 3>company has got your back. I think Chas does a

0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 3>great job as well, because I have that card. We

0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:40.360
<v Speaker 3>have booked hotels through Chase when we went to Europe.

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:45.320
<v Speaker 3>It worked really really well. So that's my advice book.

0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:48.400
<v Speaker 3>Direct with the hotel chains, John would say, you know,

0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:51.839
<v Speaker 3>your best option is to be like a hotel chain

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:54.839
<v Speaker 3>partisan he's a Hilton guy for everything, because then you're

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:57.360
<v Speaker 3>going to accumulate so many nights and so many points

0:37:57.600 --> 0:37:58.920
<v Speaker 3>that you'll get Diamond status.

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Although there is a credit card hard for that.

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:03.400
<v Speaker 3>If you pay the annual fee, you'll get Diamond status,

0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:05.480
<v Speaker 3>which means you get room upgrades and you get the

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:08.440
<v Speaker 3>free water bottles and the food credit, and sometimes that

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:10.920
<v Speaker 3>really pays off. But maybe you want to be a

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:14.239
<v Speaker 3>little more flexible because you're flying to places that may

0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:16.759
<v Speaker 3>not have a bunch of Hilton's or Marriotts, although they

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:20.120
<v Speaker 3>do seem to have them almost everywhere. But I really

0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:23.120
<v Speaker 3>like booking hotels and stuff through the credit card apps,

0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:24.840
<v Speaker 3>and I feel like I'm a little more protected.

0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:28.400
<v Speaker 3>The credit card company usually has your back in so

0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 3>many ways that these third party sites that are making

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:34.279
<v Speaker 3>money off of all kinds of hidden fees do not.

0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:38.279
<v Speaker 3>It was also that story of the couple from San Francisco,

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:40.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, from San Diego. They were staying in Puerto

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:46.320
<v Speaker 3>Varta during the whole lockdown because of the cartel boss

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:49.560
<v Speaker 3>that got hit, and they were trying to get their

0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:52.000
<v Speaker 3>money back from Expedia when they found a flight that

0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 3>was easier, and it was a nightmare to get that

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:58.440
<v Speaker 3>taken care of. So yeah, go through the credit card companies.

0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 3>That's my advice. I have a wonderful weekend everybody. We'll

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