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Speaker 2: Crime is up all over the state city and out

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Speaker 3: The economy is sick, axes are high, housing is expensive,

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Speaker 3: and businesses are leaving. Leaving California means fixing, and John

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Speaker 3: Phillips is just the man to lead the charge. It's

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Speaker 3: the Fix California Hour with John Phillips and Randy wag.

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Speaker 2: And we continue at one oh five in the afternoon

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Speaker 2: on The John Phillips Show, Mister Randy Weggs in Toronto, Canada.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be a good time. Eight hundred two

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Speaker 2: It is our pleasure to welcome our next guest to

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Speaker 2: the program. She is a thirteen time Emmy Award winning

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Speaker 2: investigative correspondent for CBS News California, specializing in state capital

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Speaker 2: accountability and consumer investigations. You could watch her in Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles on k CALTV and in San Francisco on KPI X.

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Speaker 2: You can follow her on X at Julie Watts TV.

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Speaker 2: Julie Watts Welcome.

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Speaker 5: Hello, gentlemen, I am.

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Speaker 6: I'm guessing whoever gave you that intro got it from

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Speaker 6: AI because it was not actually entirely correct.

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Speaker 2: Oh is that if I'm.

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Speaker 6: Fact checking the governor, I've got a fact check you

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Speaker 6: guys as well.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, go right ahead, Thanks for having me, Thank you

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Speaker 2: for being here. Your ears must have been ringing yesterday

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Speaker 2: because all over cable news you were referenced right and left,

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Speaker 2: sometimes by name, sometimes not by name. Because yesterday Katie

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Speaker 2: Porter announced that she is getting out of politics for good.

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Speaker 2: That you won't have Katie Border to kick around anymore.

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Speaker 2: And anytime they bring on the analysts to explain why

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Speaker 2: they go. Well, the moment she lost her temper with

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Speaker 2: that reporter in Califordia, I said to myself, that's it

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Speaker 6: You know, I've said this, I think publicly a couple

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Speaker 6: this comes up a lot. Folks ask me to talk

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Speaker 6: about this. I will say that interview, certainly it inspired

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Speaker 6: you can credit that interview for the destruction of her campaign.

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Speaker 6: I think that that was probably some very powerful folks

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Speaker 5: And think about this.

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Speaker 6: If I had done that interview, let's just say, with

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Speaker 6: Gavin Newsom, and it had gone bad, I would have

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Speaker 6: been vilified, right, But nobody vilified me.

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Speaker 5: Well, a few people did.

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Speaker 6: I did get some hate mail, but for the most part, publicly,

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Speaker 2: No, and I'll tell you I've seen some of her defenders.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, well, I will say this, and you

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Speaker 2: Well, now you're working on a new one that is excellent.

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Speaker 2: We've spent a lot of time talking about it on

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Speaker 2: and that is diaper Gate.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's a fun one, right.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 6: One of the great things about this investigation is that

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Speaker 6: So, but what this with this investigation reveals is how

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Speaker 6: which is my entire mission. My position at CBS California

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Speaker 6: you know, really interestingly, when I started out on this investigation,

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Speaker 6: Steve Hilton was saying that these diapers were going to

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Speaker 6: And so I simply did a fact check to say, no, Steve,

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Speaker 6: they were saying they were making you know, six figure salaries.

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Speaker 5: They weren't.

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Speaker 6: So I was just simply doing a simple fact check.

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Speaker 6: And I reached out to the Governor's office and said Hey,

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Speaker 5: All out on the table and move on.

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Speaker 6: And there weren't really any red flags with what I

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Speaker 2: Would they say you're not entitled to it or were

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Speaker 6: Here's what I would say, you need to go read

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Speaker 6: you know, after five o'clock on a Friday, this last Friday, saying,

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Speaker 2: But yes, what was the relationship between the first partner

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Speaker 6: So you know, listen, I think to be fair, we

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Speaker 5: Sixty six days ago.

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Speaker 2: Julie Watts, CBS News California excellent, excellent, excellent reporter. You

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Speaker 4: want to keep paying for it after that.

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Speaker 2: Right now, it's time to open up the California Crime Bludder.

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Speaker 1: It's happened yet again, NYE.

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Speaker 3: See time for the California Crime Bludder.

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Speaker 2: The first edition takes us to Pasadena.

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Speaker 4: Where, in the middle of a heat wave, copper wire

443
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Speaker 4: thieves are ripping out all the copper in the AC units,

444
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Speaker 4: disabling them.

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00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,880
Speaker 2: Great. It's like the flooded Oakland DMV.

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Speaker 4: Over and over and over again for mar Here's Fox

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Speaker 4: eleven in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 9: You know, small businesses are feeling the heat after thieves

449
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Speaker 9: rip apart their air conditioning units and steal the copper

450
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Speaker 9: inside this Fox eleves gy to Silver reports in some

451
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Speaker 9: shops temperatures are climbing as high as ninety degrees.

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Speaker 2: How much money could they be getting from every one

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Speaker 2: of those.

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Speaker 4: Units, like twenty thirty dollars and you're talking about thousands

455
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Speaker 4: of dollars of damage and having to rebuild these entire units.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be sweating in Pasadena.

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Speaker 10: We're a small business, independently owned, and to think that

458
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Speaker 10: somebody can just come in and do something like this.

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Speaker 11: It's it's terrible small businesses, you know what.

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Speaker 2: It's a I like her glasses, but why didn't she

461
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Speaker 2: go for the big ones.

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Speaker 11: Dinai Animal Hospital are sweltering in the middle of a

463
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Speaker 11: heat wave after copper thiefs ripped apart there.

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Speaker 4: Okay, this is getting extra cruel. They stole the air

465
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Speaker 4: conditioning unit from a veterinary hospital.

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Speaker 2: Well maybe they thought that they specialize in reptiles because

467
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Speaker 2: they're cold blooded.

468
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Speaker 11: Air conditioning units to steal the copper inside.

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Speaker 10: And I'm sure whatever easy money they got from the

470
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Speaker 10: scraps is already spent and done, and we're still here

471
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Speaker 10: with the after effects.

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Speaker 11: Security cameras captured the thieves jumping over a block wall

473
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Speaker 11: while another man on a bicycle lingered in the alley.

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Speaker 11: Moments later, the suspects climbed back over the wall, carrying

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Speaker 11: something with them before taking off.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's absolutely not fair the heat.

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Speaker 12: It's like it's on you directly. But we're still trying

478
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Speaker 12: to provide customer service and I'm sweating to priestly.

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Speaker 11: The same thing happened at Sweet Peach, a popular Pasadena bakery.

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Speaker 11: Thieves climbed on.

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Speaker 2: You know, it sounds real good in July, hot cake.

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Speaker 13: You know.

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Speaker 2: I recently went out to a restaurant for breakfast and

484
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Speaker 2: I walked in and I saw a million fans all

485
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Speaker 2: over the place that we're all on. And I walk

486
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Speaker 2: up to the hostess and I go, is your ac out?

487
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Speaker 2: And she goes, yeah, but we have many, many, many fans,

488
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Speaker 2: And she goes, how many can I put you down for?

489
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Speaker 2: I said zero, and I turned around and walked out to.

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Speaker 11: The roof tore apart. The air conditioning unit stole the

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Speaker 11: copper inside and left the owners with an expensive repair built.

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Speaker 12: And then we discovered that they we were one of

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Speaker 12: the fifth or six locations that this has happened to.

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Speaker 11: Now, with no air conditioning, temperatures inside the bakery have

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Speaker 11: climbed to around ninety degrees.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 4: The bakeries as hot as the oven. The whipped creams

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Speaker 4: to start curdling.

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Speaker 11: Employees are doing their best to keep things running, and

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Speaker 11: even customers are feeling the heat.

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Speaker 5: It's hot. It feels so hot. It's just as hot

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Speaker 5: in here as it is outside. So it's very uncomfortable.

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Speaker 7: But yet the faithful employees of this business are still

504
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Speaker 7: here working serving on This.

505
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Speaker 4: Is the most damaging crime for the littlest reward possible,

506
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Speaker 4: and the only way we're going to crack down on this,

507
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Speaker 4: outside of you know, arresting the people stealing this, is

508
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Speaker 4: actually shutting down the smelters and the junkers that are

509
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Speaker 4: buying the stolen goods that apparently are untouchable in the

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Speaker 4: state of California.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's how you fix this. What you do because

512
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Speaker 2: the crackheads are going to do what the crackheads are

513
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Speaker 2: going to do, and you have no control over them

514
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Speaker 2: because you refuse to put them in prison. So set

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Speaker 2: that aside for a moment. All of the scrapyards rely

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Speaker 2: on business licenses from the state of California to be operational.

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Speaker 2: You can lean on them, You can go to them

518
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Speaker 2: and say, listen, if we hear that you're accepting any

519
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Speaker 2: copper wire from any crackheads, we're going to shut you

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00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: down lickety split. But for whatever reason, they refuse to

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Speaker 2: do that.

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Speaker 4: Chris writes in is this just an HVAC company looking

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Speaker 4: for business?

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's what this is. No, it's crackheads

525
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Speaker 2: looking for things that they can get drug money with.

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Speaker 4: And honestly, this time of year, HVAC companies are way

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Speaker 4: too busy to begin.

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Speaker 5: With, so it's really sad.

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Speaker 11: All of the businesses targeted by copper thieves were hit

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Speaker 11: within the past two months. The most recent theft happened

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Speaker 11: just last Tuesday. In every case, the air conditioning units

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Speaker 11: that were damaged were located on the roof.

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Speaker 14: Once they start, they think they can keep on going passaging.

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Speaker 11: A public Information officer, Lisa R. Darien says business owners

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Speaker 11: should remove or secure anything that could give thieves access

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Speaker 11: to the roof, making it harder for them to reach

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Speaker 11: air conditioning units.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but wouldn't that violate some kind of fire code.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And if you make it harder for the crackheads

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Speaker 2: to get there, you make it harder for the people

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Speaker 2: who need to be up there.

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Speaker 14: They can be stacking the boxes that are left there,

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Speaker 14: There can be ladders that are not secure, There can

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Speaker 14: be picnic tables or cars, anything they can climb to

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Speaker 14: gain access to the rooftop.

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Speaker 12: You're hurting so many people, including yourself, including your own family.

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Speaker 4: If we're going to harden our places, maybe we start

548
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Speaker 4: with electrifying the wall around the air conditioning units.

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Speaker 2: Oh, they'd sue you in a heartbeat.

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Speaker 12: All businesses, we're one community. Let's stick together and help

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Speaker 12: one another.

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Speaker 2: This poor lady, you can see the sweat coming out

553
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Speaker 2: of her face. Oh I'm getting hot just watching her.

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00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 12: You're out instead of taking from one another.

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Speaker 11: Gina Silva Fox elevenues.

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Speaker 2: So there you go.

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Speaker 4: More copper wired destruction in the state of California, this

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Speaker 4: time in Pasadena. It does remind me of that DMV

559
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Speaker 4: in Oakland where they ripped out the ac They ripped

560
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 4: out the copper wire and the building flooded and it

561
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 4: was closed for like six months. All right, Randy, it's

562
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Speaker 4: time to reopen The California Crime Blodder's dummy.

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Speaker 3: We couldn't make this stuff up if we tried.

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Speaker 2: I said, Hell no, boy, let me get up one

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Speaker 2: out of here.

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Speaker 3: It's the California Crime Blodder.

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Speaker 2: And this edition takes us up north to the city

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Speaker 2: of Hayward.

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Speaker 4: Where a smash and grab happened in a cell phone

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Speaker 4: repair shop.

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Speaker 2: And guess what, it's not the first time.

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Speaker 1: It's happened yet again.

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Speaker 8: For more, here is kron four and surveillance video captures

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Speaker 8: arm thieves taking into a Hayward Phone Repair shop and

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Speaker 8: taking off with hundreds of dollars worth of merchandise.

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Speaker 4: And the owner of this store has only been opened

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Speaker 4: since April and this is now the second time it's

578
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Speaker 4: been hit.

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Speaker 2: Crown Fourth Sarah Stinson has the store.

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Speaker 4: Wait a second April, May, June, July. Two break ins

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Speaker 4: in four months.

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Speaker 2: Hey, give it time, they could get a hat trick.

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Speaker 13: The owner and manager here at Mister Phone Repair are

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Speaker 13: still reeling from the smash and grab and counting inventory

585
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Speaker 13: to see just how much was stolen.

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Speaker 2: See my goodness, it always sounds like an explosion and.

587
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 4: This is old school, while if you're listening, that sounds

588
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 4: like a Kia. It's a good old fashioned crowbar, probably

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Speaker 4: stolen from home depot.

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Speaker 13: Curity video captures masked thieves using a crowbar to break

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Speaker 13: through the front window of Mister Phone Repair and Hayward.

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Speaker 2: They're so violent with it, going Barry bonds on it.

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Speaker 13: After several attempts, they break through the glass and heads

594
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 13: straight for high price itups like gaming consoles, iPhones, speakers,

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Speaker 13: and other merchandise smashed.

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Speaker 15: They broke the glass, they broke the showcase coming here

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Speaker 15: stealing in if they.

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Speaker 3: Still the mis.

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Speaker 4: I do like the logo for his business, A little

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Speaker 4: phone with a mustache.

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Speaker 2: This poor guy, he could have staw a bunch of stuff.

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Speaker 13: Clothing manager Sammy Saban says the store has only been

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Speaker 13: open since April, but this is already the second time

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Speaker 13: it's been hit.

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Speaker 15: I feel like we're getting targeted, to be honest with you,

606
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Speaker 15: the latest man.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm not used to going into one of

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Speaker 4: these shops. But is it common for you to go

609
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Speaker 4: to a cell phone repair shop and they're also selling

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Speaker 4: energy drinks?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that seems like an odd combination.

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Speaker 13: Cash and grab happened early Friday morning, just after three

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Speaker 13: point fifteen at the store in Gateway Plaza. At one point,

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Speaker 13: one of the thieves appears to be holding a gun

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Speaker 13: as he runs towards the back of the store. Saban says,

616
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Speaker 13: that's the room where the owner sometimes sleeps while working

617
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 13: overnight phone repairs. This time he wasn't there.

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Speaker 4: It was wait, an overnight phone repair job, so wait

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Speaker 4: a minute.

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Speaker 2: So they were fully prepared to kill him.

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Speaker 4: Apparently over some iPhones and what a ps five.

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Speaker 15: Just heartbreaking because he was about to sleep that day

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Speaker 15: and who knows if he go out. He was on

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Speaker 15: the trigger ready.

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Speaker 13: Another suspect is seen filling a box with merchandise before

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Speaker 13: the group takes off. When the owner and Saban arrived

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Speaker 13: later that morning, they found shattered glass scattered across the

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Speaker 13: floor and empty showcases.

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Speaker 2: Just upsetting.

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Speaker 15: Is a sad world we live in. Though we have

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Speaker 15: to come next day, open up and then we see

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Speaker 15: the business broken into pieces.

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Speaker 13: Heyward. Police say the investigation is still in its early

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Speaker 13: stages and no rests have been made.

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Speaker 2: Well, we knew that was coming. In the old days,

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Speaker 2: you used to go to prison for a long time

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Speaker 2: for doing something like this.

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Speaker 4: You have to get caught first, and when it comes

639
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 4: to burglaries, whether it's commercial burglaries or home burglaries, right

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Speaker 4: now these guys have like an eighty five percent success

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Speaker 4: rate of not getting caught.

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00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 13: Despite another setback, Saban says they have no plans to

643
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Speaker 13: close their doors.

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Speaker 15: Gl William Da kashmur no.

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Speaker 4: And behoefully okay again not an important part of the story.

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Speaker 4: But there is nothing to me more crass than a

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Speaker 4: phone case that says Louis Vaton. If you have a

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Speaker 4: phone case that says Gucci or Louis Vatan, you've got issues.

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Speaker 2: New money their doors.

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Speaker 15: Gl William D. Kashimur No and behoeflly. We will still

651
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Speaker 15: keep going positive no matter what. We're gonna keep going

652
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Speaker 15: stronger than ever.

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Speaker 13: The owner has already replaced the massive window that shattered,

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Speaker 13: saying it's just one.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned the logo of the guy the phone with

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Speaker 2: the mustache on it, and I thought to myself, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it kind of does look like a can of pringles.

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Speaker 2: Go back to the logo. There are pringles in the logo.

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Speaker 4: Well, we don't want this guy to get sued over

660
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Speaker 4: copyright infringement, so we won't highlight this too long.

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Speaker 2: But that's pretty good.

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Speaker 15: Stronger than ever.

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Speaker 13: The owner has already replaced the massive window that was shattered,

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Speaker 13: saying it's just one added cost to this theft. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 13: next door at Ohana Hawaiian Barbecue, one of its doors

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Speaker 13: is covered in this plywood. Employees telling me off camera

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Speaker 13: they left it up after a break in that happened

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Speaker 13: earlier this year.

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Speaker 2: Boy, it's rough in that shopping center. Well, this is

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Speaker 2: what I don't understand.

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Speaker 4: When these things are happening over and over and over again,

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Speaker 4: why don't more businesses just say screw it, We're gonna

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Speaker 4: stick with the wood because every time we put up glass,

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Speaker 4: it's gonna get broken again.

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Speaker 2: Hayward. That's where the rock is from, isn't it.

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Speaker 13: They say these overnight theaths are a growing concern in

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Speaker 13: this shopping center. I'm Sarah Stinson reporting in Hayward backs you.

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Speaker 4: So there you go the smash and grab at mister

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Speaker 4: phone in Hayward.

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Speaker 2: And if you don't want to get robbed, I'm not

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Speaker 2: gonna blame the victim here because had that guy been

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Speaker 2: there and been in the back office, he could have

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Speaker 2: been shot and killed. But don't make your logo a

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Speaker 2: cell phone that looks like the Pringles man if he

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Speaker 2: was in a street gang. You put that logo up

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Speaker 2: and people make certain assumptions about what other businesses you

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Speaker 2: might have going on out of that location, and you

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Speaker 2: make yourself a target. Just a little advice from the

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Speaker 2: John Phillips Show. If you're watching us live on YouTube,

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Speaker 2: make sure to hit that like button. We're at one

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Speaker 2: hundred and forty one likes. We want to get that

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Speaker 2: number as high as humanly possible, so please hit that

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Speaker 2: button if you haven't done it already. All right, it's

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Speaker 2: time to reopen the California crime blodder.

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Speaker 1: It's happened yet again.

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Speaker 2: This whoa, whoa, what's up here?

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Speaker 3: Dumb preached the Califonia crime blodder.

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Speaker 1: With John.

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Speaker 2: And Randy. This would involve Facebook Marketplace.

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Speaker 4: One thing that you can take away from this show,

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Speaker 4: nothing good ever happens on Facebook marketplace.

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Speaker 2: I should know.

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Speaker 4: You should have seen all the scam messages I got

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Speaker 4: when I tried to sell my rowing machine and then

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Speaker 4: decided to just donate it to the LAFD.

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Speaker 2: For more, here is Fox five in San Diego.

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Speaker 8: Morning Tonight from a man who says he got swindled

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Speaker 8: while trying to sell one of his old belongings on

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Speaker 8: face Book Marketplace.

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Speaker 16: That man telling Fox five that it seemed like a

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Speaker 16: normal transaction, even got a confirmation of payment, but when

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Speaker 16: it was all over, he realized he was only.

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Speaker 3: Paid a penny.

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Speaker 16: Juliet Vara spoke with him and joins us live in Curnie,

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Speaker 16: Mesa with the warning and his story.

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Speaker 11: Hi Andrew, Yeah, so the victim.

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Speaker 17: In this case is speaking out because he doesn't want

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Speaker 17: anyone else to be a victim, and he says it

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Speaker 17: really it's so important to be extra careful. The Better

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Speaker 17: Business Bureau also saying that it's so important to.

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Speaker 18: Be vigilant so that you're not a target. In the

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Speaker 18: world of online business, you can find anything and anyone

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Speaker 18: by sell you name it. Fritz patidi One considers himself

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Speaker 18: pretty savvy, but says he is now the victim of

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Speaker 18: being ripped off and scammed by a con man. He

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Speaker 18: engaged on the popular Facebook marketplace, and this is.

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Speaker 19: The first time that I've dealt something not very pleasant.

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Speaker 18: Fritz used Facebook marketplace to sell an led light. After

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Speaker 18: numerous conversations with a buyer and an agreed amount of

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Speaker 18: forty five dollars, the two.

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Speaker 4: Wait, why are you even wasting your time to sell

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Speaker 4: something for forty bucks?

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Speaker 2: Risking your life for that amount of money?

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Speaker 18: Come on, decided to meet in a public parking lot.

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Speaker 18: Fritz's car even captured video, which we've blurred for now,

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Speaker 18: of the two meeting.

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Speaker 19: He asked me if it could take the zell which

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Speaker 19: you know, my gut feeling was saying.

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Speaker 4: I should wait for a forty five dollars payment. He

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Speaker 4: asked if he could wire you the money. By the way,

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Speaker 4: it look like a drug deal little bit. By the way,

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Speaker 4: if you're going to do one of these things. Do

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Speaker 4: it in front of the sheriff's station. They actually have

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Speaker 4: a parking space ready for.

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Speaker 3: You, just like said Cash.

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Speaker 19: Because he wasn't not much.

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Speaker 18: Going against his intuition, Fritz agreed to receiving a Zell payment.

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Speaker 18: A few seconds later, he got this text message that

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Speaker 18: confirmed a forty five dollars payment was sent to him.

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Speaker 19: And I said, okay, legitimate. I'll walk into my car,

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Speaker 19: grabbed the item and then handed it to the gentleman

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Speaker 19: and he said thank you, and he took off immediately

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Speaker 19: while I was still waiting for a transaction to show

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Speaker 19: up on my account.

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Speaker 18: A couple of minutes later, though, he still didn't see

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Speaker 18: a deposit into his bank account, and instead got a

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Speaker 18: new notification from Zell showing a new amount of only

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Speaker 18: one cent was deposited.

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Speaker 2: That's one hell of a discount. This is better than

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Speaker 2: Black Friday.

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Speaker 18: Fritz new he'd been duped, especially when attempts to reach

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Speaker 18: the guy failed.

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Speaker 3: Immediately block me.

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Speaker 2: Or look at this from the other side.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna scam a guy and risk yourself and screw

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Speaker 4: up all this stuff with Zell over a forty five

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Speaker 4: dollars light.

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Speaker 2: Loser of his account.

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Speaker 18: Corey Schnyder with the Better Business Bureau says it's unclear

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Speaker 18: how the scammer pulled this off, but says he's not

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Speaker 18: surprised because creative con artists tend to find a way.

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Speaker 7: There's always loopholes that people find or work arounds. If

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Speaker 7: you're not on top of it all the time, you

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Speaker 7: don't know about it. And most legitimate people who are doing,

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Speaker 7: you know, just using the platform as intended, don't know

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Speaker 7: about these workarounds.

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Speaker 18: So his expert advice always use a credit card when

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Speaker 18: you can. It has the best fraud protection and tracking,

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Speaker 18: or only exchange.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, MX won't even judge you when you tell them

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Speaker 4: you got scammed. Why are they blurring out the crook's face?

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Speaker 4: Wouldn't you want to put his face out there so

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Speaker 4: people know not to do business with him.

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Speaker 2: I think they wait until he's actually been charged with

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Speaker 2: a crime. He's not going to be charged with anything.

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Speaker 2: All right, We've got one more hour coming up out

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Speaker 2: of John Villa. Joe, don't you go anywhere