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Speaker 2: Dirty Work with you on a Thursday afternoon, Adam Copland

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Speaker 2: Deep Pop with You.

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Speaker 3: Join now on the UMA.

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Speaker 2: Guest line by Sam Ammick covers the NBA for the

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Speaker 2: athletic We do it with Sam each in every week.

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Speaker 1: Sam.

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Speaker 3: What's going on? Man? How are you?

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Speaker 2: It's him?

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Speaker 4: Good afternoon, gentlemen, doing well? Actually mixing things up today

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Speaker 4: down here at a good old SAP center for some

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Speaker 4: March madness. How about that?

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Speaker 3: Nice?

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Speaker 2: Give us some college hoops?

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Speaker 4: Do that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, are you just taking in as a fan

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Speaker 2: or you covering it?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: I mean I'm credentialed. It's honestly, years and years ago,

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Speaker 4: I used to dive in a whole lot more to

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Speaker 4: the draft than I do now. But this draft is

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Speaker 4: so strong that, if I'm being honest with you, the

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Speaker 4: calculus was the go watch these young fellas who were

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Speaker 4: going to be in the association pretty soon, and they

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Speaker 4: have some.

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Speaker 3: Pretty good ones here tonight.

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Speaker 4: Or watch the Warriors play the nets and the Wizards,

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Speaker 4: which was not as compelling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would tend to agree, Yeah, I would.

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Speaker 2: I would tend to agree that just Purdue it. What's

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Speaker 2: the other.

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Speaker 3: Matchup Arizona Arkansas. Oh yeah, you Dan have some good games. Man,

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Speaker 3: there's a couple of good ones.

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Speaker 2: So great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the nightcap, Yeah, we were just doing the count.

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Speaker 4: I think there's I think five guys in our athletic

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Speaker 4: mock draft that were that were in the top thirty five.

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Speaker 3: So it would be fun to try to get a

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Speaker 3: taste of the up and tellers.

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Speaker 2: Good deal talking to Sam may makeure covers the NBA

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Speaker 2: for the athletics. So I want to ask you about

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Speaker 2: how I should view this because I saw the other

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Speaker 2: day there was a vote by the owners I guess

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Speaker 2: to then vote on the cities of Seattle in Las

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Speaker 2: Vegas expansion teams. I didn't totally understand if this is

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Speaker 2: like they're going to do it, or they're voting now

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Speaker 2: to do it, like they voted to vote. It's sort

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Speaker 2: of like in the movie Basketball when he goes, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna give you a pre commitment ring so that we

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Speaker 2: decide we're gonna get serious. It's something we can actually

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Speaker 2: talk about. So it's not a commitment ring. So like,

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Speaker 2: what's the status right now, and are they going to

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Speaker 2: vote on.

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Speaker 3: These two cities officially? Yeah, I mean you're not that

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Speaker 3: far off, Adam.

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Speaker 4: It's it is a funny kind of logistical layout here.

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Speaker 3: They are they voted to explore, you know, specifically Vegas

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Speaker 4: And to your point, I will say, you know, on

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Speaker 4: the back end of the press conference, our reporter on

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Speaker 4: location was Mike working off from the athletics, and Mike

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Speaker 4: asked a really good question of Adam Silver and he said, Adam,

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Speaker 4: still a chance that you don't expand or that you

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Speaker 3: And he said, yes, both of those scenarios are still

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Speaker 4: So technically nothing is promised, you know, and I think

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Speaker 4: Adam even phrased it is you know, there's no handshake deals.

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Speaker 3: This is still a process. You know.

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Speaker 4: The word on the street is that people would be

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Speaker 4: saying that Adam made a few big picture comments just

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Speaker 4: Pretty volatile at the moment, and that impacts economies, and

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Speaker 3: Are they going to be successful basketball wise?

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Speaker 4: So they're going to try to peel the onion back

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Speaker 5: Talking to Sam amic on the UMA guest line, as

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Speaker 5: far as the Warriors, just the season of hell continues

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Speaker 5: where the other night in Dallas, just a horrible scene

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Speaker 5: at this point, like I you know, it impacts them

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Speaker 5: next season. So as far as just like a younger

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Speaker 5: this team, how much is Moses Moody's injury, Sam impact

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Speaker 5: their twenty twenty six twenty twenty seven season where you're

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Speaker 5: but also a possible trade piece.

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Speaker 4: No, it's brutal, I mean, Moses, it's funny for all

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Speaker 4: the kind of you know, the you know, hotly contested

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Speaker 4: was like Switzerland, you know what I mean, Like everybody told.

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Speaker 3: Agree on him, and he was.

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Speaker 4: He was in that positive and and he didn't rile

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Speaker 4: didn't you know, certainly create the hubbub that Kamena did.

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Speaker 4: and a fantastic guy by all accounts, especially in the.

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Speaker 4: So you saw the depth of kind of disappointment and

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Speaker 4: going through. And then to your question, Derek, planning wise,

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Speaker 4: factor in Jimmy Butler and his injury bleeding over into

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Speaker 4: next year. Moses, same scenario, you know, similar timelines.

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Speaker 3: That does not make.

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Speaker 4: It easy to really flesh out different trade scenarios. And

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Speaker 4: you know during a summer where if we fast forward

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Speaker 4: get pieces around him to contend, and right now, the

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Speaker 4: movie situation just makes that pathway even more problematic.

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Speaker 5: Now, it definitely does, and we'll see what happens this offseason,

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Speaker 5: but as far as the hearing, now, Steph will return,

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Speaker 5: but Wiggins wasn't a free agent, and I'm not sure

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Speaker 5: about Porzingis's future with the team now. They could still

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Speaker 5: play for the plan and they probably won't make it.

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Speaker 5: But do you think there's much of a benefit to

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 4: I'm a little bit old school when it comes to

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Speaker 4: It's funny because you could you could kind of juxtapose

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Speaker 4: the staff situation with Giannes's situation in Milwaukee, and I

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Speaker 4: wrote about that a little bit today where it's like

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Speaker 3: A living, you know.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, I know it's not real life money,

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Speaker 4: their money even if it's not meaningful basketball, which is

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Speaker 4: obviously a'll become a well known phrase in the Warriors world.

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Speaker 4: So I think, if Seth's ready, you just you let

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Speaker 4: them go. Steph, you know, this is what these guys

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Speaker 4: do for a living. I just don't feel comfortable with

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Speaker 4: they're doing. So you know, it's you hear people and

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Speaker 3: You know, I think telling Staph to sit.

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Speaker 4: Uh when when he's ready to go, what would be

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna sam I have here a few more minutes

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Speaker 2: on the Umber guest line. Uh covers the NBA for

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Speaker 2: the athletic for your money. I mean, we're talking NBA

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Speaker 3: Your money are they?

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Speaker 2: Are they using this draft pick or are they trade

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Speaker 3: Total speculation?

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Speaker 4: Uh, you know, I would probably lean towards training it

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Speaker 3: It's you know, it is.

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Speaker 5: the other day. You talked about Lebron james future, and

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's any surprise that this will be

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Speaker 5: his last season with the Lakers, and the teams that

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Speaker 5: So you brought up Jannis and that relationship seems very

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Speaker 5: think is more likely this offseason the Warriors trading for

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Speaker 5: Steph and not have the power that he's had in

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean to that last point, Derek, he's probably

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Speaker 3: Much power with the Lakers. True, yeah, you know, that's

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Speaker 4: And honestly, even Austin Reeves has surpassed Lebron on the old,

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Speaker 4: because of how well he's played in this this third

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Speaker 4: Maybe that helps the dynamics. So who knows, But you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Those are both pretty unlikely. I just

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Speaker 3: But the Lebron's and the Warriors won.

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Speaker 3: Back to the Paris Olympics and how much.

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Speaker 4: Fun it was to see Lebron and Steph to their thing,

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Speaker 5: Last one for you, Sam, I heard you the other

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Speaker 3: I don't. It's funny.

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Speaker 4: Adam Silver is absolutely you know, kind of hit check

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Speaker 4: Joker, the Why, Leonard Wemby, Shay Gilbs, Alexander Anthony Edwards,

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Speaker 2: Say man at the voice you hear on the my guest,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do with them every Wednesday talking NBA covers

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Speaker 2: the NBA for the athletic Sam always appreciate the time,

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Speaker 2: enjoy the college hoops down at SAP and we'll talk

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Speaker 2: to you next week.

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Speaker 5: Thanks sim Thank you.

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Speaker 3: It's a good, good deal there.

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Speaker 2: The great Sam may make by the way, still read

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Speaker 3: We'll see.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like there has to be had here.

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Speaker 5: It sounds like that, and I'll be glued as uh,

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Speaker 1: We're talking about I created Austin Reeves.

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Speaker 2: He's like, no, dude, you gotta ask Austin's like, what

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's uh, who's my guy with the Trail

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Speaker 2: It's Lebron, Like, please, I was thinking Sun's first rate

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