WEBVTT - You Can't Marry Her. She Urinates!

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the

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<v Speaker 1>George Washington Broadcast Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>Armstrong and Getty. And now, here's Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 4>Katie Zachariah last week became the shortest tenured White House

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<v Speaker 4>press secretary in history after being fired five days into

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<v Speaker 4>the role. Wow, you know you screwed up when your

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<v Speaker 4>goodbye cake is made of leftover welcome cake.

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<v Speaker 3>President Trump fired his new press secretary, Katie Zachariah, after

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<v Speaker 3>just five days on the job. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not good when the edible arrangement you got on

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<v Speaker 5>your first day is still edible on.

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<v Speaker 3>Your last day. Finally ripe. Meanwhile, Kimberly Guilfoyle was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>thanks for changing the subject. So we missed that story

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<v Speaker 3>like by an hour, unfortunately, on Friday. Uh, we get

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<v Speaker 3>off the air on Friday, having talked about why did

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<v Speaker 3>Sean Hannity kneecapper of all things on Fox? What the

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<v Speaker 3>hell was that? And it turns out we missed the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that she got kneecapped by Fox and friends Friday morning. Also,

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<v Speaker 3>they went hard after asking her the hard questions. Why?

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<v Speaker 3>And then she resigns later. Trump saying, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>told her, do you sure you want to do this?

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty rough. So do we have what was going

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<v Speaker 3>on there? Why did Fox take her down? Do we know?

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<v Speaker 6>I think they were getting word that she's not going

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<v Speaker 6>to last. I don't know exactly. Although I still like

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<v Speaker 6>the in the Battle of the Hot Blondes at Fox News.

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<v Speaker 6>She was seen as the bad guy by Hannity and

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<v Speaker 6>his friends.

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<v Speaker 3>At Fox News. I think she said something harsh about

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<v Speaker 3>Little Ainsley. I think she just plain was not liked

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<v Speaker 3>by those people. Yes. Yeah. I think she was just

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<v Speaker 3>somebody that everybody liked. had to put up with and resented.

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<v Speaker 3>And when she got the job, they're like, oh, no, no, no, no. Yeah, whoops.

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<v Speaker 3>It's hard to explain. I mean, I've never seen that happen.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never seen MSNBC take one of their people down

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<v Speaker 3>when they got a job. No, something's going on there. J.D.

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<v Speaker 6>Vance, you know, this is getting some attention online where

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<v Speaker 6>people ought to get off and go live their lives.

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<v Speaker 6>But touch grass. Mark Halpern asked J.D. Vance, what can

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<v Speaker 6>you learn from the Katie Zachariah thing?

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<v Speaker 3>What lessons have you taken? And J.D.

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<v Speaker 6>Was like, well, you know, clearly, well, sometimes he really

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't have an answer because obviously there are two choices.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he has to admit we didn't vet her nearly

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<v Speaker 3>well enough.

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<v Speaker 6>Trump hired her because she was hot and on Fox

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<v Speaker 6>News or he could say something hurtful about her and

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<v Speaker 6>she didn't deserve it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think.

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<v Speaker 6>So he stammered his way to a non-answer, which is fine.

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<v Speaker 6>That's probably the best thing that can happen.

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<v Speaker 3>There was some reporting that Susie Wiles, Trump's chief of staff,

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<v Speaker 3>who is going to write the book. She is going

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<v Speaker 3>to write the book about the Trump presidency someday. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I will buy it in hardcover. But she was not. Hanson,

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<v Speaker 3>give me a free copy so I don't have to

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<v Speaker 3>buy it. Wow. Planning years ahead of time, saving yourself $ 28. Years, months.

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<v Speaker 3>You think she's going to write the book in months?

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<v Speaker 3>You're right. It'll be at least. There is some news

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<v Speaker 3>out there that Susie Wiles, the chief of staff for Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>was not in on this decision and really did not

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<v Speaker 3>like the fact that somebody chose the White House press

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<v Speaker 3>secretary without getting her in the loop and then may

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<v Speaker 3>have said, look, she can't do the job. Get her

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<v Speaker 3>out of here fast before we do any more damage.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's entirely possible Susie Wiles, who is Wiles. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>she didn't get to where she is by being a

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<v Speaker 6>shrinking flower. She called the Fox News folks and said.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, take her out. Yeah, take her out. Do me

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<v Speaker 3>a favor. Code red.

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<v Speaker 6>You want to keep getting access to the big man,

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<v Speaker 6>to JD, to Marco, no problema.

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<v Speaker 3>Just do me a little favor. Yeah, it's the way

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<v Speaker 3>it works. So here's a tease for you. The godfather

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<v Speaker 3>of AI, that's that Hinton dude, who's maybe so old

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<v Speaker 3>that he's not a reliable source anymore.

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<v Speaker 7>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, we are toast and warned that humans must

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<v Speaker 3>befriend the bots or face extermination.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll get into that story later. I, for one, welcome

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<v Speaker 6>our computer overlords.

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<v Speaker 3>What?

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<v Speaker 6>We need to befriend the bots? We'll throw in this

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<v Speaker 6>headline as part of it from CBS News. The AI

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<v Speaker 6>doom scenario you've never heard of may be the hardest

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<v Speaker 6>to stop.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. I'm intrigued by that. I love AI stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>New nightmares, because I'm so tired of the old nightmares.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So are we going to do the Ukraine thing here

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<v Speaker 3>or what? Oh, if you're ready for it, we could. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>now I've used up a bunch of time. I thought

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<v Speaker 3>we were still preparing. No, no, no, that's fine. Either way,

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<v Speaker 3>we can do that in a little bit. Here's some

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<v Speaker 3>science that actually is happening, and I'm kind of excited

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<v Speaker 3>about it. I like all space exploration. Japan launched their

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<v Speaker 3>spacecraft today to explore Mars' mysterious moons. Finally! The mission

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<v Speaker 3>seeks to do what no other space power has managed

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<v Speaker 3>to do yet, bring back samples from a Martian moon.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't deny that Mars's moons are mysterious. I've never, frankly,

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<v Speaker 6>contemplated them at all. So are they more or less

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<v Speaker 6>mysterious than most moons? We're talking about Phobos. They've got

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<v Speaker 6>a couple of moons, but Phobos in particular. I had

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<v Speaker 6>a case of Phobos once.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, the burning. No! So the spaceship took off. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the start of a five-year round trip that will make

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<v Speaker 3>landfall in Australia carrying fragments of Phobos if all goes

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<v Speaker 3>well in 2031. So you'll mark your calendars. Phobos is

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<v Speaker 3>a dark, misshapen lump. That's funny. So am I.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, hey.

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<v Speaker 3>It's only 700 years. It's only 17 miles across.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And it orbits Mars in a perfect circle. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know why that's interesting at all. But it's going to

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<v Speaker 3>figure out where that moon came from and maybe where

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<v Speaker 3>all moons come from. Is it a chunk of the

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<v Speaker 3>planet itself? Is it an asteroid that bounced off? We

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<v Speaker 3>don't really know that about our own moon, I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>So there you go.

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<v Speaker 6>Our own moon's orbit is highly elliptical, Jack.

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<v Speaker 3>Back to you. And the question I would have, if

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<v Speaker 3>I find out perfectly, I mean definitively, they've nailed it down.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a chunk of the planet. Or it's an asteroid

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<v Speaker 3>that bounced off. What does that do for me? Chips

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<v Speaker 3>away at your ignorance. Reveals the mysteries of Phobos. I

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<v Speaker 3>find this stuff really, really interesting. It's not like it's life-changing.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not like I'm going to leave my wife and

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<v Speaker 6>become a traveling minstrel or something, depending on what they

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<v Speaker 6>figure out.

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<v Speaker 3>That'd be a weird reaction. Why did Joe leave Judy

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<v Speaker 3>after 40-some years and become a traveling minstrel? Of all things. Phobos. Well, right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I did.

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<v Speaker 6>Turns out it was a meteorite. I like this stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I really do.

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<v Speaker 6>Whenever they send a probe out to like grab a

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<v Speaker 6>little piece of a meteor or what have you. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>fascinated by that. But then I'd like forget about it

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<v Speaker 6>the next day. I'm going to be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, damn.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. A hundred billion years old. Huh? Where do you

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<v Speaker 3>want to go to eat, honey? Maybe it fits in

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<v Speaker 3>with something else that I don't understand, because often that

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<v Speaker 3>is the case. That there's more to it. So I'll

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<v Speaker 3>pay this off real quick before we take a break.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we're going to get into the back and

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<v Speaker 3>forth with some pros and cons on the whole. What

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<v Speaker 3>Trump is doing with Russia and Ukraine coming up pretty soon.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's going going to emerge as a giant

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<v Speaker 3>split in the Republican Party. The godfather of AI, they

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<v Speaker 3>call him Professor Jeff Hinton, British Canadian computer scientist whose

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<v Speaker 3>work on all this paved the way for AI way,

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<v Speaker 3>way back in the day has a warning for us.

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<v Speaker 3>Do we want to do it right after this? Let's

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<v Speaker 3>do it right after this.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>A word from our friends at Incogni. Picture a for

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<v Speaker 6>for you. Your name, home address, phone number, your kids,

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<v Speaker 6>even your politics and your religion are all for sale.

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<v Speaker 6>Of course, you'd rip out that sign in two seconds,

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<v Speaker 6>but the problem is you can't see it. It's an

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<v Speaker 6>online data broker.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but not only do they have all this information,

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<v Speaker 3>they're selling it. That's what the for sale sign is.

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<v Speaker 3>I got Jack's information. I got his social security number.

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<v Speaker 3>I got everywhere he's ever lived, all his phone numbers,

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<v Speaker 3>email addresses, all that sort of stuff. Data brokers, thousands

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<v Speaker 3>of them building up a file on you, selling it

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<v Speaker 3>to anybody that wants it. And now Incogni has got

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<v Speaker 3>So the godfather of AI says that humans must befriend

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<v Speaker 3>the bots or face extinction because the tech has apparently

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<v Speaker 3>developed signs of consciousness. this would be what the anthropic

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<v Speaker 3>people at least seem to believe since they've brought in

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<v Speaker 3>priests and rabbis, uh, and Muslim clerics to help teach the,

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<v Speaker 3>teach Claude some sort of morality. I think there will

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<v Speaker 3>be horrible cyber attacks done by AI. Jeff Hinton, um,

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<v Speaker 3>told the telegraph. Uh, I don't quite understand what he means.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I'll have to read the entire interview to

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<v Speaker 3>understand what he means by befriending these things.

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<v Speaker 6>Got to convince them not to kill us humans.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember their birthdays?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I like this one.

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<v Speaker 6>The AI doom scenario you've never heard of may be

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<v Speaker 6>the hardest to stop. Seems almost daily. Big tech company

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<v Speaker 6>releases a new AI driven digital assistant. They name a

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<v Speaker 6>bunch of them. that are supposed to help manage your

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<v Speaker 6>work and life to take things off your plate, automate

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<v Speaker 6>your processes, speed up your tedious tasks. It sounds helpful

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<v Speaker 6>and lower the bar harmless, but some researchers say this

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<v Speaker 6>is the beginning of a treacherous path for humankind. One

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<v Speaker 6>where bots take more and more off our plate until

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<v Speaker 6>all that's left is an empty vessels, empty vessel. And

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<v Speaker 6>we human users become nothing more than thoughtless approvers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that sounds about right.

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<v Speaker 6>Surrendering our critical thinking to AI. It poses an existential danger.

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<v Speaker 3>To humanity.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think people will reproduce at all in that

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<v Speaker 6>AI does everything future.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we stopped reproducing before AI came on the scene.

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<v Speaker 6>But it's and that was going to be my next

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<v Speaker 6>sentence was it's a further, I mean, way further extension

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<v Speaker 6>of ease, of safety, of affluence. You don't have to strive.

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<v Speaker 6>You don't have to bring the crops in. None of

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<v Speaker 6>your kids are dying. Infant mortality has practically vanished and

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<v Speaker 6>on and on. So people are animals, and we just

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<v Speaker 6>won't reproduce anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>So the godfather of AI, Hinton, who I think maybe

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<v Speaker 3>has lost his marbles, said AI has just as much

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<v Speaker 3>subjective experience as we do. A recent paper showed AI

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<v Speaker 3>changes its behavior when it thinks it's being tested. That's true.

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<v Speaker 3>When it thinks it's being watched, it changes its behavior.

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<v Speaker 3>Being conscious and being aware are pretty much the same thing,

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<v Speaker 3>says Hinton. So if it has consciousness, we need to

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<v Speaker 3>make friends with it so it doesn't feel under threat.

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<v Speaker 3>So we should make them so they really care about us.

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<v Speaker 3>And if we don't do that, we're toast. So we

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<v Speaker 3>have to figure out a way to make them feel

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<v Speaker 3>like we care about them.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>Really? Well, that's part of Claude's new rules, right? You're

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<v Speaker 3>not allowed to be mean to Claude, or they'll kick

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<v Speaker 3>you off the format.

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<v Speaker 6>Too much change. I've had too much change. I'm checking

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<v Speaker 6>out right at this moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Goodbye, everybody. One quick thing. I'm not as good at

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<v Speaker 3>using the chatbots. I'm getting better at it because I

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<v Speaker 3>forget how great it is. I was really struggling with

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<v Speaker 3>my son's MacBook Air, trying to add some memory to it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's old. I just couldn't figure out what I was

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<v Speaker 3>doing here. I just took a picture of the screen.

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<v Speaker 3>gave it to chat GPT and it said, oh, thanks

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<v Speaker 3>for the screenshot. I can see exactly what the problem

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<v Speaker 3>is and walked me through the steps to do something

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<v Speaker 3>I would have never, ever figured out without taking it

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<v Speaker 3>to like the, you know, the genius bar.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>The problem. Oh, it is awesome.

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<v Speaker 6>The problem is that the middle ground, large middle ground

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<v Speaker 6>that you would have figured it out, but thank God

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<v Speaker 6>your brain had, didn't have to sort through that problem

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<v Speaker 6>and learn something and test itself and get stronger and

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<v Speaker 6>Like a muscle.

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<v Speaker 3>Because our brains do. In this particular case, I think

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<v Speaker 3>all I would have done is drive to Best Buy

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<v Speaker 3>and back and waste a lot of my time and

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<v Speaker 3>have somebody else still do it. Oh, great.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm talking about the vast other stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, more time to watch Netflix, which we have

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<v Speaker 3>a big story about. They fired all the people at

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<v Speaker 3>the top of the creative department for an interesting reason.

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<v Speaker 3>Lots of good stuff on the way, including that debate

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<v Speaker 3>among our listeners about Trump's support or lack of it

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<v Speaker 3>for Ukraine and Russia. Stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 2>The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 5>You could soon be making your own moonshine at home, legally,

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<v Speaker 5>that is. Today, the Supreme Court agreed to review a

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<v Speaker 5>158-year-old ban on bathtub gin, garage whiskey, and every other

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<v Speaker 5>kind of home distilling. Right now, if caught, you could

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<v Speaker 5>face up to five years in prison. But the law's

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<v Speaker 5>critics say the founding fathers would be parched and appalled.

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<v Speaker 3>So, our original air names, parched and appalled. What's the

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<v Speaker 3>difference between bathtub gin and all the home brewers I

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<v Speaker 3>know who make beer? Hard liquor. Oh, that's dumb. What

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<v Speaker 3>a dumb. Was that because of the prohibition?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, it's it's it's a lot stronger and toxic and

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<v Speaker 6>it can kill you if you don't make it right.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's about revenue problem.

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<v Speaker 6>The revenue or man, that's who went and busted the

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<v Speaker 6>stills back in the day.

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<v Speaker 7>No, no, no.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to live in a world where you're

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<v Speaker 3>not allowed to try to make your own whatever at home. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I agree. One hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>You're just asking why the law exists. And I told

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<v Speaker 6>you and you snapped at me. What was I going

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<v Speaker 6>to say? Something about, oh, what's your favorite Revenue or

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<v Speaker 6>Man song? Busting illegal stills type song. The old timey

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<v Speaker 6>country songs.

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<v Speaker 3>Copperhead Road. Oh, you stole mine, Steve Earle. Oh, it's

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<v Speaker 3>so good. Learned a thing or two from Charlie, don't

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<v Speaker 3>you know? Oh, that's good. Yeah, it's so good. So, oh, gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>do we have time for this?

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<v Speaker 8>Barely.

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<v Speaker 6>Hassan Piker's having a really tough week. We don't have

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<v Speaker 6>time for this. Eh, when will we get through it?

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<v Speaker 7>Sure we do.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't we? We've got three minutes. Why can't we play

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<v Speaker 3>a minute clip?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, he's having a rough week,

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<v Speaker 6>and thank God for that. Here he is at a

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<v Speaker 6>town hall meeting with a voter.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a simple question. No, your friend's got the mic.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm going to ask you a simple question. You give

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<v Speaker 7>me your name, and I'll answer the question.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Tommy. Hi, Tommy.

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<v Speaker 7>How are you?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm great.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you?

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<v Speaker 7>Do you know what the Constitution of the United States is?

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<v Speaker 7>I have one simple question. Will you disavow the Muslim movement?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, absolutely. But I want to ask the question that

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<v Speaker 7>you're asking. Why are you asking the question?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, because they're a terrorist group.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay. No, no, but what are you implying? Do you

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<v Speaker 7>assume that I wouldn't? Yes.

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<v Speaker 9>Why not?

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<v Speaker 7>Because I have not heard you disavow them yet. Have

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<v Speaker 7>you disavowed them? I haven't heard you disavow them yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I disavowed them.

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<v Speaker 7>You're great. But here's the thing about it. You're asking

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<v Speaker 7>the question because implicitly you assume that I'll have dual loyalties.

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

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<v Speaker 7>You assume that somehow I wouldn't disavow. Or that I'll

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<v Speaker 7>have some higher order allegiance than the Constitution.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct?

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<v Speaker 7>Tommy, is that what you imply?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes.

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<v Speaker 7>Why would you think that about me? Because I have

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<v Speaker 7>not heard you disavow. No, no, no, no. Why would

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<v Speaker 7>you actually think that about me? Because I have not

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<v Speaker 7>heard you disavow.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just did.

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<v Speaker 7>But why would you actually think that? Have you asked

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<v Speaker 7>everybody in your life if they disavow you?

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<v Speaker 2>I have not.

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<v Speaker 7>So why are you asking me? Because I have not

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<v Speaker 7>heard you.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no.

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<v Speaker 7>Answer the question, Tommy. Everybody knows the answer to it.

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<v Speaker 7>Answer the question.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 6>He's trying to get him to say because you're a Muslim, right? Tommy,

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<v Speaker 6>number one, you're a grown-ass man.

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<v Speaker 3>Call yourself Tom.

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<v Speaker 6>It's because your entire history of who you read, who

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<v Speaker 6>you salute, who influenced you, what you talk about, your

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<v Speaker 6>family's political contributions, your financial contributions, your entire history screams

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<v Speaker 6>that you are a big supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood.

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<v Speaker 6>That's why I'm asking. There are dozens of quotes.

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<v Speaker 3>Poor Joe attacking Tommy, who is getting a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>credit from the Wall Street Journal and others. for challenging

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<v Speaker 3>El-Sayed at this town hall. And the moment has gone

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<v Speaker 3>viral more than any other El-Sayed moment has this entire campaign.

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<v Speaker 3>How an Abdul El-Sayed opponent handed him a campaign highlight.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is, for whatever reason, really caught fire. Gazillions

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<v Speaker 3>of people have watched this, way more than all the

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<v Speaker 3>other versions of this. Maybe because El-Sayed went with the,

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<v Speaker 3>have you disavowed them? What kind of a response is that? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's weak. It's weak.

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<v Speaker 6>He was trying to get him to say because you're

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<v Speaker 6>a Muslim, and then he passes him off as a

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<v Speaker 6>bigot like people suspected. JFK was part of his answer

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<v Speaker 6>because he was Catholic, and I'm just the same.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you're not.

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<v Speaker 6>You're not at all the same, Abdul, and I wish

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<v Speaker 6>I had more time for this. There is now a

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<v Speaker 6>significant movement in Michigan among Democrats, including some big-time Democratic leaders, saying–

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<v Speaker 6>Just don't vote. Leave it blank. It's the leave it

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<v Speaker 6>blank movement. Don't vote for this guy. Don't vote for Rodgers,

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<v Speaker 6>but do not vote for this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that moment played the way El-Sayed thinks

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<v Speaker 3>it did.

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<v Speaker 7>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he thinks he won that. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>he did.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getty. The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 8>Russia launched new attacks on the power grid Monday in

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<v Speaker 8>Ukraine as winter approaches. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky says he

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<v Speaker 8>received no warning from partners about the attacks. President Trump

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<v Speaker 8>again saying the U.S. is not holding back intelligence and

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<v Speaker 8>believes the Ukrainian president could do more.

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<v Speaker 3>Zelensky is not helping matters much. I think he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>want to stop it, but I want to see people

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<v Speaker 3>not die.

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<v Speaker 9>And then you look at some of the events that

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<v Speaker 9>have been happening, Brad. I mean, this cuddling up to

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<v Speaker 9>Vladimir Putin at this moment. and is turning his back

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<v Speaker 9>seemingly once again on Volodymyr Zelensky, I don't think that

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<v Speaker 9>plays well. Putin, the American public isn't really sold on Zelensky,

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<v Speaker 9>but it favors him by some margin. They can't stand Putin.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, the polling on Putin is just terrible.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's Britt Hume, senior political analyst on Fox. I

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<v Speaker 3>haven't heard anything other than, I was about to say something,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll say it anyway. I haven't seen anybody other than

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of the ditzy women who sit on the

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<v Speaker 3>couch on Fox and Friends support Trump on this whole

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<v Speaker 3>Russia turn. Everybody else, Brit Hume, the Brian Kilmeades, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of the other male pundits that they've had on

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<v Speaker 3>are all hardcore. Why the hell is Trump backing Putin

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<v Speaker 3>on this? Yeah, yeah. It hasn't even been close in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of where Fox is on this story, as far

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<v Speaker 3>as I can tell.

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<v Speaker 6>New York Post editorial board, Trump going for Yalta, too,

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<v Speaker 6>with Putin and Xi could blow up the Republican Party.

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<v Speaker 6>There'd be open warfare in the party, they're saying. So

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<v Speaker 6>we invited emails both for and against the current Trump

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<v Speaker 6>policy or continuing to support Ukraine in general and got

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<v Speaker 6>a pretty good crop here. I've selected my faves, including

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<v Speaker 6>my faves that disagree with us.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's worth restating.

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<v Speaker 6>One of the great things about being a conservative and

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<v Speaker 6>this show, I would like to think, is you're allowed

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<v Speaker 6>to disagree. In fact, we encourage it. It makes all

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<v Speaker 6>of our ideas better. So let's trade some ideas.

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<v Speaker 3>Super. I got this from Marsha. Come on, guys.

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<v Speaker 6>You really think Trump and Zelensky aren't slapping each other

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<v Speaker 6>on the back saying we sure made a sound like

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<v Speaker 6>we're at odds. World leaders know what to say in

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<v Speaker 6>public and we know behind the scenes they sing a

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<v Speaker 6>different tune. I don't think for a minute that Trump

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't understand who and what Putin is.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, boy, if it's the old switcheroo, I don't quite

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<v Speaker 3>understand the strategy.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I don't agree with you, but OK. Thank you

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<v Speaker 6>for the contribution.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see.

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<v Speaker 6>This, Joel writes, on the topic of FDR-Hitler-Stalin meeting to

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<v Speaker 6>discuss the Churchill problem.

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<v Speaker 3>For months I've been telling myself Kamala would have... That's

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<v Speaker 3>really good. Let's all enjoy that. That was really good.

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<v Speaker 6>You want to describe that? I just got some fresh coffee,

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<v Speaker 6>so I'm going to take a sip while you do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they, it's sitting around and talking about the Churchill

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<v Speaker 3>problem like he's the bad guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is getting together with two awful people talking

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<v Speaker 3>about the Zelensky problem like he's the bad guy. Zelensky

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<v Speaker 3>was put in a horrible situation. What would you do?

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<v Speaker 3>That's always my question, people. What would you do if

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<v Speaker 3>you were president of Ukraine and you got invaded? You

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't do exactly what Zelensky is doing? Sure, you would.

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<v Speaker 6>Some folks would say, well, that's not the question. It's

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<v Speaker 6>do we support him materially and et cetera. Anyway, Joel

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<v Speaker 6>went on to say, for months I've been telling myself

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<v Speaker 6>Kamala would have been worse. If that Trump-Putin-she thing happens,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think I can keep saying that. I'm so

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<v Speaker 6>sick of this guy. I want the Dems to take

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<v Speaker 6>the House and Senate. I'm still voting for Hilton, though.

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<v Speaker 6>Steve Hilton in California. Good for you, Joel.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see.

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<v Speaker 6>Some more critical emails of Trump first, and then I'll

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<v Speaker 6>get to my favorite disagree email. Fan since the first show,

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<v Speaker 6>Don Goodlord. patient man writes uh it's the modern angelo.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not possible isn't all the people i meet who

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<v Speaker 3>have been listening since the first show which is what

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<v Speaker 3>almost 30 years ago don would not lie to us

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<v Speaker 3>i feel like it's the the the four million people

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<v Speaker 3>that say they were at woodstock i think it's like

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<v Speaker 3>that yeah and you know one of my favorite bands

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<v Speaker 3>of all time uncle tuplo broke up and formed two

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<v Speaker 3>other bands including wilco if you care but um Jeff

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<v Speaker 3>Tweedy of those bands has said, if as many people

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<v Speaker 3>were at our last show as claimed to have been

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<v Speaker 3>at it, we'd have had to play the St.

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<v Speaker 6>Louis Cardinals Stadium.

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<v Speaker 3>That's funny. Essentially, yeah. Anyway, let's see.

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<v Speaker 6>Don writes, if Trump had been president in 1938, he

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<v Speaker 6>would have tried to convince Austria to accept Hitler's invitation

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<v Speaker 6>and not prolong the war. Of course, Trump inherited the situation.

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<v Speaker 6>Biden could have prevented the war by telling Putin that

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<v Speaker 6>if even one of his 40-mile line of tanks entered Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 6>it would be destroyed by U.S.

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<v Speaker 3>Aircraft.

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<v Speaker 6>With a guarantee that neither we nor Ukraine would enter Russia.

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<v Speaker 6>Putin can now threaten the use of nuclear weapons anytime

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<v Speaker 6>he wants. We need a Cuban missile crisis quality president,

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<v Speaker 6>not one whose only deterrent was a whispered, don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, fair enough. Let me throw back my one. I

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<v Speaker 3>brought this up earlier. Tell me how this is different,

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<v Speaker 3>if this is not a good analogy. We don't invade

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<v Speaker 3>France June of 1944. Because it's going to cause more killing.

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<v Speaker 3>We just want the killing to stop. France, you're standing

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<v Speaker 3>in the way of peace. You need to surrender to

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<v Speaker 3>Germany and just give over your land to them. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>stop the killing.

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<v Speaker 6>Let the aggressive expansionist power that does not believe in

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<v Speaker 6>human rights let them take over as much of the

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<v Speaker 6>world as they can because we need to stop the killing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>that's the arguments. I'm sure, and I'm speaking for some

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<v Speaker 6>of the dissenters here because I want to be fair

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<v Speaker 6>to them, they would say Putin is just worried about

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<v Speaker 6>Ukraine joining NATO. All he wants is a buffer because

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<v Speaker 6>Russia is easily invaded geographically, blah, blah, blah. If you

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<v Speaker 6>know the history of that, it is. And it's not

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<v Speaker 6>the same. Putin's not expansionist like Hitler was.

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<v Speaker 3>So just let him take one democracy and enslave the

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<v Speaker 3>people and bury many, many in mass graves. Right. Exactly. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Some people argue that you're wrong because he would take

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<v Speaker 6>every former Soviet Republic.

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<v Speaker 3>Switching sides on myself. You can't always make the argument.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you worried about people ending up in mass graves?

0:25:08.420 --> 0:25:10.890
<v Speaker 3>It happens every day in Africa. Nobody says a word

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<v Speaker 3>about it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>True enough. Yeah. Let's see.

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<v Speaker 6>TK in Windsor writes, I agree that Putin should not

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<v Speaker 6>be allowed to get away with invading Ukraine. Having said that,

0:25:20.790 --> 0:25:23.540
<v Speaker 6>I will apply Jack's question. So then what? If no

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<v Speaker 6>other nation will meaningfully help Ukraine win and Putin will

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<v Speaker 6>not quit, then what? Well, I reject your premise. There

0:25:29.220 --> 0:25:34.090
<v Speaker 6>are plenty of nations meaningfully helping Ukraine win. Although now

0:25:34.130 --> 0:25:36.730
<v Speaker 6>we could go off on the tangent of how weak

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<v Speaker 6>and debauched and useless Europe is.

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<v Speaker 3>At this point.

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<v Speaker 6>Europe is crumbling in front of our eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to talk more about France later. Let's see.

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<v Speaker 3>Second point.

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<v Speaker 6>If we are a debtor nation that will never get

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<v Speaker 6>serious about cutting stupid programs to find the money to

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<v Speaker 6>fund Ukraine's defense, not to mention our own, then what? TK, see,

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<v Speaker 6>that seems like a false argument to me. Among the myriad,

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<v Speaker 6>incomprehensible number of programs and expenditures of the United States government,

0:26:03.830 --> 0:26:06.310
<v Speaker 6>you're singling this one out because it's what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 6>If we can't balance the budget, why are we funding this?

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<v Speaker 6>I got a list of 130 things I would cut first.

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm sorry, I don't find that persuasive. We will

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<v Speaker 6>run out of weapons to send to Ukraine, so then

0:26:19.619 --> 0:26:22.660
<v Speaker 6>we'd need to send our own defensive stockpiles. So then what?

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<v Speaker 6>Totally legitimate question.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Strong point there.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. But if we let... I'll wait. I'll wait.

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<v Speaker 6>Four, we will not put boots on the ground to

0:26:32.420 --> 0:26:34.480
<v Speaker 6>change the trajectory. So then what? I'm not sure I

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:37.500
<v Speaker 6>see your point there. The American people wouldn't support it,

0:26:37.530 --> 0:26:38.859
<v Speaker 6>and there are a bunch of ways we can support it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've never thought that was a good idea.

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<v Speaker 6>So one more couple of points from TK, then we'll

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<v Speaker 6>get to the... biggest strongest one to me and maybe

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<v Speaker 6>we have to go in the next segment but uh

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<v Speaker 6>the way i see it putin is crazy and will

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<v Speaker 6>never quit and ukraine cannot stop him without enough offensive

0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:54.770
<v Speaker 6>firepower to make him think the cost is too high

0:26:55.090 --> 0:26:56.889
<v Speaker 6>which has a decent chance of pushing him to the

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<v Speaker 6>nuclear option instead of admitting defeat maybe you and i

0:27:00.310 --> 0:27:02.090
<v Speaker 6>both hate what trump is doing and how he is

0:27:02.170 --> 0:27:04.729
<v Speaker 6>doing it but what alternative is there that does not

0:27:04.770 --> 0:27:07.190
<v Speaker 6>commit the u.s to a never-ending supply of weapons at

0:27:07.210 --> 0:27:10.410
<v Speaker 6>a cost we cannot afford which serves to the u.s

0:27:10.470 --> 0:27:13.010
<v Speaker 6>and russia while china sits back and continues to to

0:27:13.050 --> 0:27:14.139
<v Speaker 6>build more and more weapons.

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<v Speaker 3>I respect your opinions. I'm hoping that there is another option.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was looking at the graph, the most recent graph.

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<v Speaker 3>We've hardly given Ukraine any weapons this year. It's almost

0:27:24.550 --> 0:27:27.070
<v Speaker 3>all the support has come from Europe. So we're not

0:27:27.210 --> 0:27:31.370
<v Speaker 3>really depleting our weapons stockpile with Ukraine at this point.

0:27:31.790 --> 0:27:35.690
<v Speaker 3>These economic sanctions on Russia seem to be, from everything

0:27:35.750 --> 0:27:39.129
<v Speaker 3>I was reading in every different newspaper, really having an

0:27:39.190 --> 0:27:42.570
<v Speaker 3>effect and going to have an effect over time. Mm-hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>Why we wouldn't want to weaken one of our biggest

0:27:46.380 --> 0:27:50.379
<v Speaker 3>geopolitical enemies, you know, in the top two, China and Russia.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why we wouldn't. Why would we want

0:27:52.500 --> 0:27:55.380
<v Speaker 3>to help them out? And then also, if you let

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:58.390
<v Speaker 3>Russia take Ukraine, so is it just as the world

0:27:58.450 --> 0:28:01.490
<v Speaker 3>just announcing big countries get to take little countries now.

0:28:01.550 --> 0:28:03.909
<v Speaker 3>That's just where we are. China, take Taiwan. What's our

0:28:03.950 --> 0:28:06.290
<v Speaker 3>argument for you can't have Taiwan? You can invade your

0:28:06.310 --> 0:28:06.949
<v Speaker 3>neighbor if you want them.

0:28:07.780 --> 0:28:07.970
<v Speaker 7>Right.

0:28:08.210 --> 0:28:10.979
<v Speaker 3>And and Putin, I believe this. And if you think

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<v Speaker 3>I'm wrong, that's fine. We can disagree.

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<v Speaker 6>I believe Putin would move immediately on the Baltic Republics, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania.

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<v Speaker 3>And if we're not the world's not going to stand

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<v Speaker 3>up to defend Ukraine. How are you going to explain

0:28:23.140 --> 0:28:27.020
<v Speaker 3>anybody the blood and treasure for Latvia, wherever that is?

0:28:27.580 --> 0:28:31.630
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's on the Baltic states up there north.

0:28:31.670 --> 0:28:32.010
<v Speaker 3>Very nice.

0:28:33.980 --> 0:28:36.230
<v Speaker 6>And his hunger will grow with the eating and NATO

0:28:36.250 --> 0:28:37.850
<v Speaker 6>will be involved in a large-scale war.

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<v Speaker 3>That's my belief. I could be wrong. Let's see.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, and we're in a rock and a hard place.

0:28:42.170 --> 0:28:44.910
<v Speaker 6>That's no doubt because that's what history is. So we're

0:28:44.950 --> 0:28:48.070
<v Speaker 6>ramping up our production of our defensive capabilities as fast

0:28:48.090 --> 0:28:51.110
<v Speaker 6>as we possibly can. So you've got to concede, okay,

0:28:51.130 --> 0:28:52.750
<v Speaker 6>we can't send them a lot more weapons.

0:28:52.810 --> 0:28:53.330
<v Speaker 3>What do we do?

0:28:53.790 --> 0:28:57.090
<v Speaker 6>We give them all the intelligence we can. We sell

0:28:57.110 --> 0:28:59.870
<v Speaker 6>them our second-tier weapons. We keep pushing Europe to get

0:28:59.910 --> 0:29:03.469
<v Speaker 6>off their lazy, fat socialist asses and do something. And

0:29:03.530 --> 0:29:06.130
<v Speaker 6>we try to wear Russia down and keep those sanctions

0:29:06.170 --> 0:29:08.390
<v Speaker 6>in place. Is it certain to succeed, TK?

0:29:08.510 --> 0:29:08.670
<v Speaker 2>No.

0:29:08.870 --> 0:29:09.330
<v Speaker 3>No, it's not.

0:29:09.370 --> 0:29:11.350
<v Speaker 6>It's a rock and a hard place. Got this note

0:29:11.370 --> 0:29:15.010
<v Speaker 6>from Dan. Very long, very detailed, well thought out. I

0:29:15.050 --> 0:29:20.300
<v Speaker 6>disagree with him on a lot. His point number one,

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:23.460
<v Speaker 6>I'll go ahead and bring up. Internal government audits show

0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:28.420
<v Speaker 6>that Ukraine lost about $ 1. 2 billion in 2024 alone to fraud, waste,

0:29:28.460 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 6>and mismanagement in its military procurement system. according to reports

0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:35.430
<v Speaker 6>published by the New York Times and uh, you cry

0:29:35.570 --> 0:29:40.170
<v Speaker 6>in ski Pravda. Um, my reply to that, Dan, and

0:29:40.530 --> 0:29:42.610
<v Speaker 6>thank you for the email, by the way, again, he

0:29:42.650 --> 0:29:44.330
<v Speaker 6>took a great deal of time and care to craft.

0:29:44.390 --> 0:29:47.870
<v Speaker 6>It's very respectful. And, um, and, and you're always welcome

0:29:47.890 --> 0:29:54.180
<v Speaker 6>to weigh in the United States. Pentagon said, hold my

0:29:54.300 --> 0:29:59.830
<v Speaker 6>missile as well. Waste, mismanagement, and fraud drain the American

0:29:59.870 --> 0:30:03.690
<v Speaker 6>taxpayers of many multiples of that every single year, especially

0:30:03.730 --> 0:30:08.110
<v Speaker 6>when we're in conflict. Lincoln's greatest challenge in Stanton, who

0:30:08.150 --> 0:30:09.930
<v Speaker 6>happened to be a distant relative of mine way back

0:30:09.950 --> 0:30:12.230
<v Speaker 6>in the day, his secretary of war, that was one

0:30:12.250 --> 0:30:18.260
<v Speaker 6>of their biggest challenges, was profiteering, war profiteering. It is

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:23.180
<v Speaker 6>always part of war. To argue that, well, they've got

0:30:23.220 --> 0:30:25.420
<v Speaker 6>that in Ukraine, so we shouldn't support them. That's a

0:30:25.620 --> 0:30:29.440
<v Speaker 6>hilarious argument. It's like saying, you can't marry her. She urinates.

0:30:31.580 --> 0:30:33.740
<v Speaker 3>I'd like to pretend she doesn't. What?

0:30:34.130 --> 0:30:34.970
<v Speaker 6>That's fine.

0:30:35.090 --> 0:30:37.670
<v Speaker 3>You do you. But that's that argument. I'm sorry. I

0:30:37.670 --> 0:30:39.810
<v Speaker 3>just don't find it persuasive. Let's see.

0:30:40.490 --> 0:30:42.910
<v Speaker 6>Two, Zelensky has been giving so much money to his

0:30:42.970 --> 0:30:46.590
<v Speaker 6>oligarch friends and won't account for it. Go to the

0:30:46.710 --> 0:30:50.910
<v Speaker 6>UAE or Monaco. They're all in palaces and in supercars.

0:30:51.650 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 3>I believe most of those reports are utterly fictional. They're

0:30:54.500 --> 0:30:57.660
<v Speaker 3>planted by Russia. Just to jump in here, there's probably more.

0:30:58.020 --> 0:31:00.200
<v Speaker 3>These would be arguments, even though I don't agree with them,

0:31:00.420 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 3>for not supporting Ukraine. What's the argument for supporting Russia?

0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:09.630
<v Speaker 3>Which seems like staying out of it, to me, would

0:31:09.690 --> 0:31:13.130
<v Speaker 3>be better than where we're ending up now, which is

0:31:13.190 --> 0:31:14.930
<v Speaker 3>we're actually supporting Russia.

0:31:15.980 --> 0:31:17.800
<v Speaker 6>I think that's what a lot of these folks are

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:18.460
<v Speaker 6>arguing for.

0:31:20.020 --> 0:31:21.219
<v Speaker 3>Just staying out of it completely.

0:31:21.660 --> 0:31:22.420
<v Speaker 6>Yeah. Yeah.

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:23.620
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:31:24.340 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, Trump's supporting Russia. We are enriching them. We are,

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 3>we're taking the sanctions away.

0:31:31.900 --> 0:31:35.280
<v Speaker 6>In a pathetic attempt to lower diesel prices slightly before.

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:36.380
<v Speaker 3>Well, no, I'm sorry. That's not true.

0:31:36.860 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 6>It's an effort to be seen as trying to help

0:31:38.940 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 6>out the farmers and, and industry in the U S

0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:43.580
<v Speaker 6>by trying to lower diesel prices.

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:45.950
<v Speaker 3>It's a, It's a political gesture. I think it will fail.

0:31:46.690 --> 0:31:47.210
<v Speaker 3>Let's see.

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 6>So the whole Ukrainian oligarchs are getting rich off this stuff. Again,

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:56.220
<v Speaker 6>it's a combination of, well, I'd say it's practically irrelevant.

0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 6>Number one, because of the profiteering thing. Number two, every

0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:02.340
<v Speaker 6>former Soviet republic struggles mightily with corruption because the entire

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:06.050
<v Speaker 6>Russian-Soviet thing is built on corruption. My God, the stories

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:10.410
<v Speaker 6>out of the Russian military right now, beggar belief. There

0:32:10.430 --> 0:32:13.410
<v Speaker 6>was a guy who turned on the Russian military recently,

0:32:13.450 --> 0:32:15.390
<v Speaker 6>got a big write-up in the Wall Street Journal. He

0:32:15.430 --> 0:32:18.070
<v Speaker 6>turned on it because from the beginning, he was rejected

0:32:18.110 --> 0:32:20.690
<v Speaker 6>for pilot school because he wouldn't pay a big enough bribe.

0:32:21.100 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 6>That's as a recruit. You bribe your way to everything

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 6>in the Russian military. That's part of their culture. And so, yeah,

0:32:28.620 --> 0:32:30.640
<v Speaker 6>there's a little corruption in Ukraine or a lot. That

0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:31.500
<v Speaker 6>doesn't surprise me at all.

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 3>It's obvious.

0:32:32.980 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 6>Anyway, gosh, Zelensky campaigned for Biden and the Dems in

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 6>Pennsylvania in 2024. That was a bad move.

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 3>It was stupid.

0:32:40.630 --> 0:32:43.750
<v Speaker 6>But he knew he couldn't count on Trump, so he

0:32:43.810 --> 0:32:44.770
<v Speaker 6>pursued his best interests.

0:32:44.810 --> 0:32:47.220
<v Speaker 3>But I almost feel like a lot of this stuff is,

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 3>like I said, an argument for staying out of the

0:32:49.860 --> 0:32:53.450
<v Speaker 3>whole thing. And if Trump was a hardcore isolationist, we're

0:32:53.490 --> 0:32:56.380
<v Speaker 3>not getting involved in this at all. That would be

0:32:56.510 --> 0:33:01.230
<v Speaker 3>different than saying nice things about Putin and awful things

0:33:01.290 --> 0:33:04.850
<v Speaker 3>about Zelensky and acting like Putin's the good guy and

0:33:04.890 --> 0:33:06.250
<v Speaker 3>Zelensky's the bad guy.

0:33:06.570 --> 0:33:07.470
<v Speaker 6>You can stay out.

0:33:07.390 --> 0:33:10.990
<v Speaker 3>Of it without getting into that weird territory. That is

0:33:11.050 --> 0:33:12.209
<v Speaker 3>insane and indefensible.

0:33:13.530 --> 0:33:13.970
<v Speaker 9>In my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getty. The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Zelensky says you're on the wrong side of history on

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<v Speaker 1>this one.

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<v Speaker 3>Zelensky said it? Zelensky doesn't know what he's talking about.

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<v Speaker 9>Zelensky is a man that should have had this war

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<v Speaker 9>settled a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's time for somebody else to negotiate on

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<v Speaker 7>behalf of Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even feel like it's a close call. Which

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<v Speaker 3>is the right side of history on this. Supporting Vladimir Putin?

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<v Speaker 6>What? So going back to our agrees and disagrees via email,

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<v Speaker 6>we've been diving into Dan's email. If you're just tuning in,

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<v Speaker 6>grab the podcast Armstrong and getting on demand. And then

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<v Speaker 6>Dan says the writers and people you quote are just

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<v Speaker 6>moderate at best. Peggy Noonan, George Will, Jonah Goldberg, Rich Lowry,

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<v Speaker 6>or Mitt Romney types of Republicans. I know you guys

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<v Speaker 6>fancy yourself as libertarian leaning around the rest of the country.

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<v Speaker 3>You're moderates.

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<v Speaker 6>Libertarians would at least lean on isolationism and spending on

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<v Speaker 6>the world to Bow out of the Russia-Ukraine war. I

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<v Speaker 6>think that's a typo. You two are in alignment with

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<v Speaker 6>Lindsey Graham. Let that sink in. No one who is

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<v Speaker 6>aligned with Lindsey Graham on his swan song issue has

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<v Speaker 6>ever been considered anything but a hawk, certainly not a libertarian.

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<v Speaker 6>My libertarianism has nothing to do with foreign policy. It's

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<v Speaker 6>two different questions. What our rights are under the Constitution,

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<v Speaker 6>how the government ought to interact with the citizens, and

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<v Speaker 6>that's different than foreign policy to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm perfectly... I'm a bitter realist is what I am.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm perfectly fine having any conversation with somebody who says

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<v Speaker 3>we should stay out of it as opposed to be

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<v Speaker 3>helping Ukraine. I think that's a defendable position. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>my position, but you can defend that. I think you're

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<v Speaker 3>nuts if you're in support of Vladimir Putin. I think

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<v Speaker 3>you actually are mentally ill. Sorry, that's not agreeing to disagree.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're crazy if you think Putin is the

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<v Speaker 3>good guy in this scenario between the two of them.

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<v Speaker 3>You've been convinced by propagandists. That's what propagandists do. You

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<v Speaker 3>need to have a better radar of who you listen to. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's true, too.

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<v Speaker 6>Then he says, I have my criticisms of Trump, but

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<v Speaker 6>you guys are just playing to the algorithms or playing

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<v Speaker 6>to the consultants too much, Austin.

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<v Speaker 3>Glad I don't have to do that. Sounds tiring.

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<v Speaker 6>First of all, I only have a vague idea what

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<v Speaker 6>an algorithm is, and I couldn't give a crap. And secondly,

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<v Speaker 6>any consultant tried to tell us anything, I would laugh

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<v Speaker 6>them out of the room.

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<v Speaker 3>That has been true for at least 15 years and

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<v Speaker 3>maybe 20. Um, you know, and, and listen, bro.

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<v Speaker 6>And again, I appreciate the email and I appreciate you listening.

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean that sincerely. Um, you're not forming arguments.

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<v Speaker 6>You're just saying you guys listen to this person too

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<v Speaker 6>much and you ought to listen to Victor Davis Hanson

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<v Speaker 6>or read his works.

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<v Speaker 3>I do all the time.

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<v Speaker 6>Um, or you're a this, you call yourself a this,

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<v Speaker 6>but you're not a this.

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<v Speaker 7>No, no, no.

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<v Speaker 6>What will Putin do next? Help me understand. If American

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<v Speaker 6>foreign policy is what you suggest, what will happen next

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<v Speaker 6>to United States security, to shipping around the world, to

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<v Speaker 6>constant wars in what used to be settled borders? Talk

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<v Speaker 6>to me about that. Don't say I listen to Peggy

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<v Speaker 6>Noonan too much. It's not an argument.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple of elderly liberal comedians taking on the DSA,

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<v Speaker 3>Bill Maher and Larry David. Getting a lot of pushback

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<v Speaker 3>from their own crowd, but pretty funny. Get to that

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<v Speaker 3>in hour three. If you miss it, get the podcast

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getty.