WEBVTT - Julie Watts Previews tomorrow's debate

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<v Speaker 1>And we continue at what five in the afternoon on

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<v Speaker 1>the John Phillips Show, Mister Randy weggs across the glass Well, John,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't get more California than this. A project to

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<v Speaker 1>build a bike lane on the Bay Bridge is ten

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<v Speaker 1>years late, only half complete, and needs seven hundred million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars to finish. Boy, that's right up there with a

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<v Speaker 1>bullet train, isn't it. This is for a bike lane.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of money to make people on Schwins happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight hundred two two two five two two two is

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<v Speaker 1>telephone number one. Eight hundred two two two five two

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<v Speaker 1>two two. It is our pleasure to welcome our next

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<v Speaker 1>guest to the program. Joel Gilbert is an American filmmaker

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<v Speaker 1>who is also one of the first people in the

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<v Speaker 1>media to be on Eric Swalwell. He was the one

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<v Speaker 1>who filed a lawsuit in Sacramento Superior Court trying to

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<v Speaker 1>disqualify Swallwell from running for California governor, striking him from

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<v Speaker 1>the ballot, saying that Swalwell doesn't actually live in California. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>when people started doing the digging in the mainstream media,

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<v Speaker 1>they pretty much confirmed that Swalwell lives in Maryland and

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<v Speaker 1>not in California, as he, of course spends a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of money on hotel rooms in and around his district,

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<v Speaker 1>something you wouldn't have to do if you actually lived here.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether the courts are ultimately willing to do something about it,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll never know, because Eric Swalwell has suspended

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<v Speaker 1>his campaign due too well, unfortunate circumstances. Let's just call

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<v Speaker 1>it that. Joining us right now is the man who

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<v Speaker 1>filed that lawsuit in Sacramento Superior Court. You can follow

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<v Speaker 1>him on exit. Joel S Gilbert, Joel Gilbert, welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good to be here, Thank you. Filed the lawsuit

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of months ago. It actually ran into Swalwell

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<v Speaker 2>at his town hall in Santa Monica back in January,

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<v Speaker 2>and he came around and shook every buddy's hand before

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<v Speaker 2>it started. They were only about fifty people, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think he recognized me because instead of doing a two

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<v Speaker 2>hour quan thirty minutes, so I think he didn't be

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<v Speaker 2>asking him, hey, can I get your address in California please,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know he didn't have one. I did other

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<v Speaker 2>research on Swawah. One thing led to another. I found

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<v Speaker 2>that he had an illegal alien Brazilian nanny working for

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<v Speaker 2>him for several years that he first paid her from

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<v Speaker 2>the campaign, which you're not allowed to do because the

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<v Speaker 2>campaign can only pay for childcare if it's specific event related.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to Pittsburgh and I did an event Thursday night.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to hire a babysitter. He was charging full time,

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<v Speaker 2>all year round childcare and paying this so pair from Brazil.

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<v Speaker 2>Her visa ran out, He took her off the books

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<v Speaker 2>for two years, paid her illegally, and then put her

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<v Speaker 2>back on the book. So I'd made two complaints a

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<v Speaker 2>DHS Department Homeland Security complaint against Swawall and his wife

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<v Speaker 2>illegally employing an illegal alien, second complaint with the Federal

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<v Speaker 2>Election Commission because you're not allowed to charge full time

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<v Speaker 2>childcare to your donors. Amazingly, Swawell, despite these complaints that

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<v Speaker 2>he knew about because he was retweeting me and calling

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<v Speaker 2>me names on Twitter, even when he ran for governor,

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<v Speaker 2>he paid his wife from his campaign donors to look

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<v Speaker 2>after their own kids. So Swollwell was completely corrupt. Everything

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<v Speaker 2>he did was corrupt. He took advantage of his campaign donors,

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<v Speaker 2>and it all caught up to him with these sexual

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<v Speaker 2>assault allegations, and he had to drop out.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm not mistaken, and correct me if I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>He is also one of these people who used his

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<v Speaker 1>campaign account to do things like stay in fancy hotels,

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<v Speaker 1>fly first class, go to sporting events, go to concerts,

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<v Speaker 1>essentially live a life of luxury that he otherwise would

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<v Speaker 1>not be able to afford on a mere congressman salary.

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<v Speaker 2>You're correct. He even charged one hundred orders of staggering

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred orders to Drizzly, which is a wine and

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<v Speaker 2>beer company delivering booze. So he absolutely abused his donors.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine you're working a job and you give Swallow one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred bucks only to find out he used it for

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<v Speaker 2>fancy hotels, booze, and to pay his wife. He really

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<v Speaker 2>insulted his donors. And it's all pretty amazing because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I studied Swalwell. When he ran for congress in twenty twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>he had one hundred thousand dollars in student loan debt

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<v Speaker 2>and he also owed one hundred thousand in credit cards.

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<v Speaker 2>Flash forward twenty twenty four, his campaign disclosures showed he

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't paid either one of them off. He's making one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and seventy four thousand a years a congressman. He

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<v Speaker 2>charges everything to his campaign donors. So there's still some

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<v Speaker 2>mystery out there. Where did this guy's money go? Where

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<v Speaker 2>did it go? Is he paying people off? Is he

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<v Speaker 2>paying lawyers? Is he paying settlements? Is still one more

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<v Speaker 2>thing we're going to learn about Swalwell. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>find out what he's done with his money all these years,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's just.

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<v Speaker 3>Not clear well.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would imagine, and I'm not a lawyer, but

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine that there's an element of fraud that

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<v Speaker 1>exists if that's how you're spending the money. Because if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a little old lady getting ginned up late at

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<v Speaker 1>night watching Rachel Maddow and you see him on there

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<v Speaker 1>and you think, Okay, this guy's going to get reelected

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<v Speaker 1>and he can torment Trump for two more years, and

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<v Speaker 1>you write up a check for one hundred bucks, I

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<v Speaker 1>would imagine that little old lady thinks that money's going

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<v Speaker 1>for bumper stickers and maybe for campaign T shirts, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe for radio ads or television ads to get him reelected.

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<v Speaker 1>The money is not going to make it so that

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<v Speaker 1>he can live like Elieme Clampet.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he absolutely abused his campaign donors for Congress, his

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<v Speaker 2>gubernatorial donors were abused, high end hotels, booze paying his

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<v Speaker 2>wife to watch their kids. You can't do that. So

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<v Speaker 2>he's had a lot of arrogance and disdain, and it

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<v Speaker 2>finally caught up to him with these allegations of sexual assault.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he was a bad dude. I met him

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<v Speaker 2>in person, I shook his hand, I looked him in

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<v Speaker 2>the eye. It was very uncomfortable around him. He had

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<v Speaker 2>an attitude that he just wants to be this kind

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<v Speaker 2>of anti Trump thug. That's all he wanted to do

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<v Speaker 2>in life. And people let him do that for a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years, but it all came crashing down as

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<v Speaker 2>we saw now.

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<v Speaker 1>As a documentarian, when you put together a documentary, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing research, when you have a project that you're

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<v Speaker 1>working on, I would imagine that, as many people in

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<v Speaker 1>that industry do. You have standards and practices where you

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<v Speaker 1>hear many things, but unless you believe that you can

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<v Speaker 1>prove it, not just to yourself but to a judge.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were to be sued for defamation or libel

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, you have to have all of your claims

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<v Speaker 1>bulletproof before you're willing to run with them in any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of public forum, let alone put it into a documentary.

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<v Speaker 1>That being said, when you're researching this subject and you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing a deep dive, as you did on Eric Swalwell,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you hear a million different things when you

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<v Speaker 1>were doing your research in your due diligence on the

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<v Speaker 1>issues related to his residency and the issues related to

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<v Speaker 1>how he was spending his campaign account, how the money

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<v Speaker 1>in his campaign account, whether that was legal or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever hear any rumors from anyone about any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of inappropriate sexual relationships with staffers, with interns, or

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<v Speaker 1>any allegations of sexual assault or rape. Did that ever

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<v Speaker 1>cross you?

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<v Speaker 2>It never came up because I was relying on public

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<v Speaker 2>documents which revealed a tremendous amount it. Swallow is required

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<v Speaker 2>to make FEC filings every quarter, where it shows where

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<v Speaker 2>all his money is going, and that tells you a

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<v Speaker 2>great deal. Now, regarding his lack of any residence in California,

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<v Speaker 2>I did a search in Alameda County property records. He

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<v Speaker 2>never owned a home in California. He never rented anywhere either.

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<v Speaker 2>Three days before my court trial, some woman that used

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<v Speaker 2>to work for his campaign, who lived in a thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>hundred square foot house with her husband, dog, and kid.

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<v Speaker 2>She gave a declaration to the court saying she rented

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<v Speaker 2>her house to Swallwell five years ago, but she provided

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<v Speaker 2>no lease, no documentation. I looked up the homestead exemption

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<v Speaker 2>for Alameda County. Turns out she's taking a seven thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars homestead exemption every year, which requires you to live

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<v Speaker 2>in the house. New York Post sent a reporter after

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<v Speaker 2>her house, and there's the German shepherd. She's there with

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<v Speaker 2>her kid. The neighbors said they'd never seen Swallwell. Tom

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<v Speaker 2>Steyers campaign looked it up. I didn't even think to

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<v Speaker 2>do it. Tom Stiers campaign looked up his expenses and

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<v Speaker 2>found that every time he visited Alameda County, his home district,

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<v Speaker 2>he stayed in the Rose Hotel. So that woman gave

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<v Speaker 2>a false declaration to the court. I made a tax

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<v Speaker 2>fraud complaint against her with Alameda County because she took

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<v Speaker 2>a homestead exemption which requires her to live there. But

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<v Speaker 2>she's claiming that she doesn't live that Swalwell does. So

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people are getting in trouble because of Swalwell.

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<v Speaker 2>This girl named Kastrina Mazurka has a tax rout complaint.

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<v Speaker 2>His wife I made a complaint against her for falsifying

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<v Speaker 2>a visa application for their illegal alien Brazilian nanny, and

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<v Speaker 2>of course the illegal alien Brazilian nanny was overstaying her visa.

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<v Speaker 2>So a lot of people are getting in trouble for

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<v Speaker 2>cooperating with Swalwell's schemes, and they're going to be in

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<v Speaker 2>big trouble with him as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So let's assume that the courts pursue this, and

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<v Speaker 1>let's assume that charges are filed regarding sexual assault, and

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<v Speaker 1>we know that there are district attorneys in Alameda County,

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles County, and New York City that are looking

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<v Speaker 1>into some of these allegations. I would imagine that if

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<v Speaker 1>they're looking for some of these people who may or

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<v Speaker 1>may not know information related to the sexual assault allegations,

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<v Speaker 1>they could use this tax these tax complaints to squeeze

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<v Speaker 1>them to get them to sing on the other subjects.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, there's so much material everywhere you look at Swolwell.

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<v Speaker 2>He's done something inappropriate or outright illegal in my opinion

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<v Speaker 2>from looking at his document it's all public documents, So

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<v Speaker 2>he has at least seven investigations going on between the

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<v Speaker 2>fec DHS criminal complaints. This guy, you just can imagine there.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in the same room with him in January.

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<v Speaker 2>He's looking me in the eye and he's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>takes a half a step back. I don't think he

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<v Speaker 2>knew who he was dealing with, because I was not

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<v Speaker 2>going to give up till I exposed this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you get the impression that he thought, because he

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<v Speaker 1>had a safe seat in Congress and he was a

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<v Speaker 1>star on the impeachment circuit and he was a regular

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<v Speaker 1>on cable news, that he thought that he was bulletproof

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<v Speaker 1>and he could do whatever he wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a phenomenon we've seen both in New York

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<v Speaker 2>State and California, where you have these politicians that grow

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<v Speaker 2>up in a Democrat state where they're never questioned, media

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<v Speaker 2>only applauds whatever they do. There's never any opposition when

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<v Speaker 2>they run for office, so when they got into the

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<v Speaker 2>national stage, they really still believe they can do whatever

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<v Speaker 2>they want and they don't have to be questioned. Remember

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris when she appeared in the debate running for

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<v Speaker 2>president and Tulci Gabbert just took her apart. She couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>handle it because she'd never been criticized. So it is

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<v Speaker 2>a phenomenon we see with these Democrats coming out of

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<v Speaker 2>blue states and blue districts, where they just don't understand

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<v Speaker 2>that they have to follow the law on the rules

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<v Speaker 2>because they'd never been asked to before.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you surprised that so many of his allies, both

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<v Speaker 1>within the Democratic Party and the mainstream media abandoned him

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<v Speaker 1>as quickly as they did as soon as the allegation

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<v Speaker 1>started coming out.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I wasn't surprised because I had already softened him

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<v Speaker 2>up for a couple of months. He had to say, oh, well, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't live in that woman's house, but I rent

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<v Speaker 2>a room. I showed that he clearly was employing an

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<v Speaker 2>illegal alien, So he had no credibility. By the time

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<v Speaker 2>these sexual assault claims came out, he had no credibility.

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<v Speaker 2>Even one of the first accusers said, the only reason

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't come out when he started running for governors

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<v Speaker 2>because I didn't think anyone would believe me. But I

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<v Speaker 2>had knocked down his credibility so much. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats realized that they couldn't stick with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you surprised that more Democrats didn't abandon him after

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<v Speaker 1>you revealed the information that you uncovered, because I looked

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<v Speaker 1>at your stuff and you had him dead to rights.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there was really not a question as to

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not Eric Swalwell lived in Maryland or lived

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<v Speaker 1>in California in his home district. You pretty much nailed

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<v Speaker 1>him on that one. But his people didn't abandon him

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<v Speaker 1>when you came out with that information. Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Steyer that certainly did, who was a rival in

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<v Speaker 1>that race for governor. But the people that had endorsed

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<v Speaker 1>to Eric Swalwell, they weren't pulling their endorsements from him.

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<v Speaker 1>The donors weren't pulling their money from him. They were

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<v Speaker 1>stalling him despite the fact that you had the goods

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<v Speaker 1>on him.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, it's a good point. Look Swawa would attack me

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<v Speaker 2>on Twitter. He'd call me an idiot, he'd call me names.

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<v Speaker 2>He'd say it was a Maga conspiracy without even looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the facts. So these are the way the Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>work is they're used to the media supporting them, so

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<v Speaker 2>they simply deny everything and they think, well, people will

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<v Speaker 2>just move on. The media is not going to say anything,

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<v Speaker 2>just everyone's going to move on. So that's why I

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<v Speaker 2>just kept at it, one thing after the other, FEC complaints,

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<v Speaker 2>tax fraud complaints, Department of Labor complaint against his wife,

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<v Speaker 2>ice complaint, till it just beat his credibility up so

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<v Speaker 2>much that once the woman came forward, that was it.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is a shame that they don't immediately look

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<v Speaker 2>at the facts. And Swollwell tried to deflect by calling

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<v Speaker 2>me names and denying everything, even though the facts were

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<v Speaker 2>right there.

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<v Speaker 1>So the court rejected your challenge. You're appealing that decision

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<v Speaker 1>in the court. Do you believe that if your court

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<v Speaker 1>date happened after this story, the story of sexual assault,

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<v Speaker 1>the allegations of sexual assault, after that story broke, do

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<v Speaker 1>you think you would have gotten a different result.

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<v Speaker 2>I can update you what happened. Look all by myself

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<v Speaker 2>without an attorney. I filed the lawsuit in Sacramento court

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<v Speaker 2>three days before the court case. This woman said, oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>I ran in my house to him. I gave the

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<v Speaker 2>court the information showing that she lived there. They ignored

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<v Speaker 2>it and they found in Swalwell's favor. I appealed to

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<v Speaker 2>the third District Court the same day, the Third District

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<v Speaker 2>Appeals Court of California two pm the same day, they

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<v Speaker 2>denied it. Then I appealed to the California Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 2>They accepted my case. This was on a Monday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>On Wednesday, the California Supreme Court ruled in Swalwell's favor.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was completely papered over the fact that the

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<v Speaker 2>California Constitution requires someone to live in the state of

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<v Speaker 2>California for five full years before running for governor, and

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<v Speaker 2>you have to have a legitimate residence, which she didn't have.

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<v Speaker 2>Theifn on a Supreme court is a dei Supreme court.

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<v Speaker 2>There's one white guy, one black guy, one Asian guy,

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<v Speaker 2>one female Hispanic, one female black, one female white. It's

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<v Speaker 2>all a dei court. When you have a dei court,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll vote in favor of the people that gave them

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<v Speaker 2>the job they weren't qualified for. So that's why they've

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<v Speaker 2>already voted in the Supreme Court. Now, I'm actually proud

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<v Speaker 2>that I was able to take it to the Supreme

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<v Speaker 2>Court all by myself and it did get denied, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think it did expose Swalwell's argument that he was

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<v Speaker 2>first They said oh, he was renting this house. Then

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<v Speaker 2>he said, oh no, no, no, I'm renting a room. A

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<v Speaker 2>renting a room is not a legitimate residence. He's never

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<v Speaker 2>been there, And I think it really took down Swalwell's

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<v Speaker 2>standing as a legitimate commentator because he was just so

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<v Speaker 2>full of bull by then he was on the way out.

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<v Speaker 1>Are there any other politicians currently running for office who's

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<v Speaker 1>residency you're taking a look at.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been taking a look at a lot of them

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<v Speaker 2>all the time because what's nice is mortgages are public,

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<v Speaker 2>So anybody I encourage everyone else listening to start downloading

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<v Speaker 2>mortgages of any politician who's a real low life and

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<v Speaker 2>look whether or not they're obeying the mortgage laws. Some

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<v Speaker 2>people I've looked at and they're violating the laws, like Swallwell.

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<v Speaker 2>Even in Washington, d C. He told his lender that

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<v Speaker 2>that would be his primary residence, and now he's telling

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<v Speaker 2>the state of California that he lives in California. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>either he's committee mortgage fraud in DC or he's not

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<v Speaker 2>qualified to run for governor. But definitely, looking at mortgages

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<v Speaker 2>is a way to see if politicians are following the

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<v Speaker 2>law in their personal life, and you'll be surprised to

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<v Speaker 2>find out a lot of them don't follow the law.

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<v Speaker 1>Jiell Gilbert independent filmmaker. You can follow him on x

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<v Speaker 1>at Joel S. Gilbert Jill Gilbert. Excellent work and thanks

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<v Speaker 1>so much for stopping by.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay anytime?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Hundred two two two five two two two. He is

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<v Speaker 1>a telephone number. What eight hundred two two two five

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<v Speaker 1>two two two. If you'd like to email the show,

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<v Speaker 1>you can do so at Johnny Don't Like show at

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<v Speaker 1>gmail dot com. That's Johnny Don't Like Show at gmail

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<v Speaker 1>dot com and Randy. Earlier in the show, we revealed

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<v Speaker 1>some big news. We have re signed with the company

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<v Speaker 1>that operates this radio station in southern California and our

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<v Speaker 1>radio station in Northern California, Cumulus Media, for another three

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<v Speaker 1>plus years. So we are going to continue to do

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<v Speaker 1>this from noon to three every single day on seven

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<v Speaker 1>ninety KABC in Los Angeles on eight ten KSFO in

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<v Speaker 1>the Bay Area, and we've got that one hour on

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<v Speaker 1>the weekends on KMJ. Of course, we have the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and let me just say it's very important that everybody

0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:50.320
<v Speaker 1>subscribes to that podcast because it's going to be very

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<v Speaker 1>important someday. That's as much as I will reveal right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But we are so excited to be here. We have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of plans for the future. But the most

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<v Speaker 1>important thing you need to know is that this show

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<v Speaker 1>is not going anywhere for at least three years. And

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<v Speaker 1>coming up tomorrow, we're going on the road. We're leaving

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<v Speaker 1>the studios and we're going to Claremont. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be doing the show live from the city of Claremont

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<v Speaker 1>because immediately after we sign off at three, Randy, you

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<v Speaker 1>and I are going to the gubernatorial debate. So CBS

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<v Speaker 1>News California is putting on a gubernatorial debate at Pomona

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<v Speaker 1>College tomorrow. I believe it airs at five point thirty

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<v Speaker 1>at all statewide CBS stations. We were invited by Julie

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<v Speaker 1>Watts to attend and to hang out, and maybe John

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<v Speaker 1>has a little running with Katie Porter. Who knows, but

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<v Speaker 1>we are very excited to be there. And because you

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<v Speaker 1>have to check in at four o'clock and this show

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<v Speaker 1>ends at three o'clock, it was going to be really, really,

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<v Speaker 1>really really tough to get there from either the Coachella

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<v Speaker 1>Valley or Culver City. So we're going to be doing

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<v Speaker 1>the show nearby on location, and then we will be

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<v Speaker 1>attending the debate and we will have lots to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about on Wednesday show. But we are super psyched about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And in fact, Johnny, you think you're talking to Julie

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<v Speaker 1>Watson just a couple minutes here.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Julie Watts of CBS News will be moderating tomorrow's debate.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight hundred two two two five two two two is

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<v Speaker 1>a telephone number one eight hundred two two two five

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<v Speaker 1>two two two. As we mentioned before, tomorrow night, in Claremont,

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<v Speaker 1>Randy and I will be attending the gubernatorial debate. It's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen at Pomoda College, which is part of

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<v Speaker 1>the Claremont Colleges. I went to Claremont Graduate University for

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<v Speaker 1>my master's degree, and Pomona is on the same campus

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<v Speaker 1>as CGU. They're all there together. It's a beautiful campus.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've never been there before, I highly recommend going

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<v Speaker 1>out there and having a Sunday Brian Shu a dinner

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<v Speaker 1>sometime because it's like an East Coast college town right

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of California. But Randy, you were profiled

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<v Speaker 1>on CBS News with Julie Watts when you were able

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<v Speaker 1>to get some money that the state of California owed

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<v Speaker 1>to you, based off of a report that she did

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<v Speaker 1>explaining just exactly how to get that money. Thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>Julie Watts's reporting, we found out about claimate dot ca

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<v Speaker 1>dot gov, a website that the California Controller's Office tells

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<v Speaker 1>you if you have money that they owe you, probably

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<v Speaker 1>that was sent to an address you haven't lived to

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<v Speaker 1>in ten years.

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<v Speaker 3>So we did the story.

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<v Speaker 1>I put in my name, I put in all my

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<v Speaker 1>old addresses, and I found three hundred dollars and I

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<v Speaker 1>got three hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>I put it in the bank.

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<v Speaker 1>How great is that?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>How long did it take before that money went to

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<v Speaker 1>a wine club immediately?

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<v Speaker 3>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Julie was kind enough to invite us as her

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<v Speaker 1>guest to tomorrow night's debate because she is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the moderators at the debate, and she is kind enough

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<v Speaker 1>to join us right now. Julie Watts is an investigative

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<v Speaker 1>correspondent for CBS News California, specializing in state capital accountability

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<v Speaker 1>and consumer investigations. You can follow her on Exit Julie

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<v Speaker 1>Watts TV. Julie Watts, thanks so much for stopping by.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for having me, gentlemen. It's a pleasure to be

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<v Speaker 4>here now.

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine that for you today is like the

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<v Speaker 1>day before the term paper is due in college, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're going through all your notes and you're sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>front of your laptop and you're writing the questions and

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to figure out just exactly what topics to

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<v Speaker 1>bring up, what topics to leave out, who which candidates

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<v Speaker 1>should you ask? What question to those sorts of things?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you a stramra on me?

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<v Speaker 4>Right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Is this play?

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<v Speaker 2>Literally? Literally?

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<v Speaker 5>What's happening right now? Although I will say I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 5>in the Bridges Auditorium and they're doing a run through

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<v Speaker 5>right now. They've got Pomona students on stage standing in

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<v Speaker 5>for all of the candidates, and it is in front

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<v Speaker 5>of I do have my laptop in my lap, and

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<v Speaker 5>I was just retiming because we just had a last

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<v Speaker 5>minute candidate we sent out last night that Katie Porter

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<v Speaker 5>is joining us, So I'm retiming and reformatting all of

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<v Speaker 5>my questions to fit in another candidate. So very much

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<v Speaker 5>is like that last minute term paper. But I have

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<v Speaker 5>to tell you, sitting in this auditorium writing these questions

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<v Speaker 5>is incredible. I can't wait for you guys, just see

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<v Speaker 5>it tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I would imagine there are people who think, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a trick question. You're trying to find out how

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<v Speaker 1>to cleverly write a trick question to get the candidate

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<v Speaker 1>to look ill prepared. And I look at it and

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<v Speaker 1>I think the exact opposite. I think, Okay, one of

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<v Speaker 1>these people is going to be governor, so you almost

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<v Speaker 1>want to distill it down to just the absolute basics

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<v Speaker 1>because one of them is going to run the state.

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<v Speaker 1>So you want to know what they think about any

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<v Speaker 1>number of subjects that the next governor of California is

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<v Speaker 1>going to have to deal with. So you want to know,

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<v Speaker 1>and is clear of term as possible, what they think

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<v Speaker 1>about subject X, Y or Z. And that's got to

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<v Speaker 1>be difficult to write the question in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>gets that answer.

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<v Speaker 5>Out of them, you know, So I have I'm in

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<v Speaker 5>a really unique situation right because I've sat down with

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<v Speaker 5>most of these folks for upwards of two hours, most

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<v Speaker 5>of them, some a few a little bit shorter. But

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<v Speaker 5>I got to interview all of them. And I have

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<v Speaker 5>sort of built a relationship with many of these candidates

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<v Speaker 5>over the last eight months since I started this interview series,

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<v Speaker 5>and so I kind of know what they're going to

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<v Speaker 5>say already. My job right now is how do I

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<v Speaker 5>get them to still it down and present to I

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<v Speaker 5>always like to say I'm speaking to Mabel and Modesto.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sure there is a Mabel in Medesto, but I

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<v Speaker 5>like to write my questions and frankly, my stories for Mabel,

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<v Speaker 5>right like I understand the inside baseball, They understand the

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<v Speaker 5>inside baseball, but Mabel doesn't understand how that impacts her. Right,

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<v Speaker 5>So I will say for my segment, I have a

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<v Speaker 5>thirty minute segment in the middle of a debate, and

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<v Speaker 5>it's sort of the accountability segment. And I am really

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<v Speaker 5>trying to say, listen, we're not going to debate to

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<v Speaker 5>the next half hour who is going to be governor

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<v Speaker 5>or who's to blame for California's problems. I want you

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<v Speaker 5>to debate your solutions. And what's really interesting is, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I know what all of them think about all of

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<v Speaker 5>these issues, and so I want to put them side

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<v Speaker 5>by side. You know, you think we need to completely

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<v Speaker 5>outsource all oil refining. You think we need to drill more.

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<v Speaker 5>So let's talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>Those two solutions and why you think your answer is correct.

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<v Speaker 5>And then we let you know the audience decide which

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<v Speaker 5>one do I like better. So to the extent that

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<v Speaker 5>I can do it, my goal is going to try

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<v Speaker 5>to keep them on what is your solution to this problem?

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<v Speaker 5>And by no means do I want to trick them? Is?

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<v Speaker 5>It is not my job. I would not be doing

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<v Speaker 5>my job if they can't answer the question right. I actually,

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<v Speaker 5>I genuinely want them to share their thoughts and their

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<v Speaker 5>answers to California's problems.

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<v Speaker 1>We went through a lot of your interviews with a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the candidates.

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<v Speaker 3>You interviewed all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>And you posted portions of the interviews based on subjects.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do they think about transgender athletes? Sports, what

0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:03.879
<v Speaker 1>do they think about crime? What do they think about

0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:08.000
<v Speaker 1>the bullets? Whatever? The one that I thought that they

0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:11.200
<v Speaker 1>did the worst on, and this is collectively speaking, here

0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:19.120
<v Speaker 1>was the answer to California's insurance crisis, where you pressed

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 1>them on the fact that so many homeowners in California

0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:25.480
<v Speaker 1>cannot buy insurance. Many of them are on the fair plan.

0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:28.879
<v Speaker 1>Many of them who have lost their homes to wildfires

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<v Speaker 1>in Pacific Palisades, Altadena, they're having a tough time getting

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<v Speaker 1>paid on what was supposed to be paid to them

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<v Speaker 1>based on the contracts that they had with those insurance companies.

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<v Speaker 1>And it seemed like for many of the candidates that

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<v Speaker 1>was the one subject that they really hadn't thought through.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>I think there's probably a couple of them that had,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, thought it through. But it actually, interestingly, I

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<v Speaker 5>do think maybe Katie Porter had the best answer on

0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:01.479
<v Speaker 5>that one, because my understanding is she has somebody who

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<v Speaker 5>works in the insurance industry in her family, so I

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<v Speaker 5>did think that was she was pretty well thought out

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<v Speaker 5>on that answer specifically. It's interesting, though, Jack gun John,

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<v Speaker 5>Now you have me rethinking my questions because I do

0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:13.840
<v Speaker 5>have insurance on one of my questions, but I'm only

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:16.080
<v Speaker 5>asking a handful of the candidates, and the way I'm

0:26:16.080 --> 0:26:19.840
<v Speaker 5>framing it is, Listen, half of the folks up there say,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, forget the insurance. They're price gouging us, We

0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:25.440
<v Speaker 5>don't need them, and the other half is saying, no,

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<v Speaker 5>we need to allow them to charge a fair rate

0:26:27.880 --> 0:26:30.840
<v Speaker 5>In order to keep them in the state. And really,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, to your point, I think what people are

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<v Speaker 5>dealing with right now is you've got half the folks

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:37.919
<v Speaker 5>who can't get insurance. Because keep in mind, insurance is

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<v Speaker 5>a private you know, they're part of companies. They don't

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<v Speaker 5>have to offer you their product, and so if they

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<v Speaker 5>can't make money off that.

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<v Speaker 4>Product, or if there's too much of a risk, they're.

0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:49.919
<v Speaker 5>Not going to offer it. And so right now you

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:52.760
<v Speaker 5>have politicians having to balance looking like they're siding with

0:26:52.800 --> 0:26:55.280
<v Speaker 5>the insurance industry. But if they fight them too hard,

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:57.199
<v Speaker 5>you lose the insurance industry, and then nobody can get

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<v Speaker 5>insurance and everyone's on the fair plan, and we all

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 5>know how that goes. And then at the same time,

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<v Speaker 5>you have these insurers, to your point, who are not

0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:07.480
<v Speaker 5>necessary we're under investigation, i should say, for not paying

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<v Speaker 5>out claims appropriately in the wake of the fires, and

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:13.680
<v Speaker 5>they're also at the same time getting these rate increases. Well,

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:17.360
<v Speaker 5>those are two separate regulations, and you can't consider whether

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 5>or not they're paying out properly or at least according

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 5>to the way the law's currently written, while you're considering

0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 5>whether or not they can get a rate increase. They're

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:29.440
<v Speaker 5>a very specific criteria determining that rate increase. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think the vast majority of these candidates understand that nuance

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<v Speaker 5>coming into the threes, but I have heard I will

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<v Speaker 5>tell you from some of the folks in the insurance

0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:39.719
<v Speaker 5>industry that there are a couple of candidates who call

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:41.119
<v Speaker 5>them and said, sit down with me. I want to

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<v Speaker 5>hear everything, I want to understand everything. And so people

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 5>are now trying to I can do their homework and

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:49.440
<v Speaker 5>learn these issues, and you know, John, I get you

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<v Speaker 5>know to In their defense, also, a lot of these

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:54.160
<v Speaker 5>interviews that we did were early on. They were still

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:56.280
<v Speaker 5>learning the issues. So I am hopeful that by now

0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 5>they are more well versed.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's also an issue I think that relates directly

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<v Speaker 1>to the failure of California government, because it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>homeowner's insurance that we're talking about here. We do a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of crime stories here, and whenever, for example, a

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:16.679
<v Speaker 1>jewelry store gets hit, one of the aspects of that

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 1>story that inevitably comes up is they are uninsured because

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 1>they can't buy insurance because the jewelry stores get hit

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 1>so often that no insurance company is willing to sell

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:31.119
<v Speaker 1>them a policy, and if they are, it's so expensive

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:34.359
<v Speaker 1>that the small business can't afford to buy it. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, Okay, this is where the state not being

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<v Speaker 1>tough enough on crime is directly jeopardizing an entire industry

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 1>in the state where I don't even know how these

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 1>people survive. I mean, how do you own a business

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:49.840
<v Speaker 1>that you can't buy an insurance policy on when you

0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 1>know it's likely that you're going to get robbed at

0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:55.280
<v Speaker 1>some point in the future. But that's just the reality

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:57.720
<v Speaker 1>for that industry right now. And oh boy, are they

0:28:57.760 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 1>suffering because of it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's terrifying. And you know, additionally, if.

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<v Speaker 4>I have time, I'm going allude to this in one

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<v Speaker 4>of my questions.

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 5>Right now, school districts insurance are going up to the

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 5>point where they're laying off teachers just to be able

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 5>to afford insurance. It's partially because they're seeing an influx

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 5>in litigation due to old lawsuits. But as insurance is increasing,

0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 5>these education pools are all in the same insurance pools.

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 5>So it may be that somebody else has a claim,

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 5>but your school district now has an insurance premium increase,

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 5>and so now your school district has to let go

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<v Speaker 5>of three teachers.

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<v Speaker 4>It is.

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<v Speaker 5>You're right. I think insurance is one of we can

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 5>do a whole debate unjust insurance. Really there's so many

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:40.720
<v Speaker 5>nuanced issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I mean it relates to everything, Like we said, crime, fires,

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 1>the high cost of living. There are very few subjects

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 1>that the insurance crisis doesn't touch here in the state

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<v Speaker 1>of California right now.

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<v Speaker 5>That's so true, although I think you probably didn't say for.

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<v Speaker 3>Gas, right that's very tent too.

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<v Speaker 5>That's everything requires jaff or how the ripple effects off

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<v Speaker 5>the gap.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the debate is going to be a big one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's tomorrow night in Claremont, and I believe there's another

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 1>debate or maybe even two more coming up next week.

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 1>So right now they're sharpening their skills and hoping to

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>put their best foot forward. And I can't remember a

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:25.320
<v Speaker 1>gubernatorial election in the state of California where this late

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:27.560
<v Speaker 1>in the game we really didn't know what was going

0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:34.120
<v Speaker 1>to happen. This is the first truly contested truly, I

0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 1>don't know. It could go to maybe four or five

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:39.479
<v Speaker 1>different candidates, and I can't remember the last time that

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 1>that was that was in play.

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:44.920
<v Speaker 5>You know, it makes it so exciting. And these guys, listen,

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 5>they all have dirt on each other two and so

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 5>I'm just sitting here at my popcorn waiting to see

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 5>what next. Much of the next scandal is going to drop,

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 5>and you know, we just we just never know what's

0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 5>going to happen next. It's the reason that CBS from

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 5>the beginning has always really wanted to have the most

0:30:56.920 --> 0:31:00.360
<v Speaker 5>inclusive debate and things back to the usc ADC debate.

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<v Speaker 5>They there are people now. Javier Baveras is pulling, you know,

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 5>is near right now, and he wouldn't even been included

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 5>in that debate. So I really think that goes to

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 5>show that anything can happen. And you know, we are

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 5>the very last debate before ballots dropped, so we're hopeful

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 5>that you know, everybody watches our debate. I like to

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 5>think that we're the biggest debate and we'll have you guys.

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 3>In the crowds.

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 5>Of course, it's going to be fun. But yeah, I

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 5>really think tomorrow night is going to be consequential. I

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 5>think it's going to be a turning point in this race,

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<v Speaker 5>and I would not be surprised if the field changes

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<v Speaker 5>after tomorrow night.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Michael Trachio, who is the Via Regosa affiliated strategist

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 1>who tweeted out that Eric Swalwell was going to have

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 1>problems with aids and with interns, has tweeted out that

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<v Speaker 1>there are more Katie Porter videos that will drop before

0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 1>the ballots go out. So maybe he's right, maybe he's wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:53.800
<v Speaker 1>He was right on the last one and he put

0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 1>it out on x for the world to see with

0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 1>this problem tweeted.

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<v Speaker 5>About concluded about a few different candidates. So I'm just

0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:04.280
<v Speaker 5>sitting here. Wait. You know, we hear a lot. Hear

0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 5>a lot of rumors, right that we never report. We

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 5>just kind of have to wait till they're verified. So

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:10.479
<v Speaker 5>you and I'll be finding out the same time as

0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:12.320
<v Speaker 5>any of these rumors end up being true.

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<v Speaker 3>That is very true.

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<v Speaker 1>Julie Watts, who's going to be hosting tomorrow's debate, which

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 1>is going to be aired statewide here in the state

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 1>of California, CBS locally in Los Angeles, kpi X in

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>San Francisco, KOVR in Sacramento, KKEL I guess is also

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 1>going to be airing it as well, so make sure

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 1>you tune in tomorrow at five thirty, Julie'll be asking

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:40.440
<v Speaker 1>the questions to all the candidates who are running for

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<v Speaker 1>governor here in California. Julie, thanks so much for stopping by.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much. John Oh And it's streaming nationally

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<v Speaker 5>on CBS and twenty four seven.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Julie Watts, you can follow her on Twitter

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 1>at Julie Watts TV.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight hundred two two two five two two two is

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<v Speaker 1>a telephone number, one eight hundred two five to two two.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go back to Javier bach Rhea and Ashley Zavala

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 1>and find out what he had to say about Dana Williamson,

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:15.720
<v Speaker 1>who was his top aid, who was allegedly Gavin's top aide,

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<v Speaker 1>and his top aid stole his money.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, allegedly speaking.

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<v Speaker 6>Of following the law, I mean you were a victim

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:27.040
<v Speaker 6>of a crime that really, I mean shook Sacramento this

0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:32.200
<v Speaker 6>past late late last fall. A couple of people who

0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:35.360
<v Speaker 6>are close to you are now facing prison time for it,

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:38.200
<v Speaker 6>for stealing nearly a quarter of a million dollars in

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:41.720
<v Speaker 6>your campaign funds. I just I know you've said it

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<v Speaker 6>was a gut punch to see that. Dana Williamson, who's

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<v Speaker 6>a well known political consultant. Your former chief of staff

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<v Speaker 6>had this scheme essentially to funnel money from your campaign

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<v Speaker 6>account to this longtime chief of staff of yours. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>I just want to confirm on the record here.

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<v Speaker 3>Had funneled money. I think she was funneling beer. Oh yeah,

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:03.040
<v Speaker 3>she was funneling lots of liquids.

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<v Speaker 6>To this longtime chief of staff of yours. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>I just want to confirm on the record here, like

0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 6>you were really truly misled there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>As I said, gut punch, you put your trust in people.

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<v Speaker 7>But what you also have to remember is as much

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 7>as you've had a working relationship over years, as much

0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 7>as you've done things together and succeeded in so many ways,

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 7>at the end of the day, we're all accountable.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it with being Attorney General of California that

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 1>makes you so wed to the cliches?

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<v Speaker 3>Bob Bonta?

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<v Speaker 7>The law is the law, and no one is above

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:39.880
<v Speaker 7>the law. And so when accountability comes knocking your way.

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<v Speaker 1>Boy, he's saying it so many times now, he's getting

0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:43.359
<v Speaker 1>tongue tied.

0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:48.680
<v Speaker 7>You got to show up. And so I don't think

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 7>anyone will challenge what the law is, and we all

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 7>have to face up to it. But it was a

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:55.800
<v Speaker 7>real gut punch.

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<v Speaker 6>This scheme, I mean involved taking ten thousand dollars a

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 6>month up to from this dormant state campaign account of yours,

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:09.760
<v Speaker 6>and I just I mean looking through your congressional campaigns,

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:12.360
<v Speaker 6>I mean dating back to the nineties, like never once

0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:15.880
<v Speaker 6>did you pay that amount for this kind of maintenance

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:19.759
<v Speaker 6>for legal services for nothing? I mean, like, did you really.

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<v Speaker 1>I want this guy looking at our budget? Keep in

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:26.760
<v Speaker 1>mind how many hospice care facilities were in one building

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<v Speaker 1>in the San Fernando Valley seventy eight. How many billions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars were stolen from us in EDD fraud thirty

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<v Speaker 1>how many millions of dollars billions of dollars have been

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<v Speaker 1>stolen from us in the phony Bologney homeless services organizations

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<v Speaker 1>at least twenty five billion. And this guy can't keep

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<v Speaker 1>an eye on one bank account that belongs to him,

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<v Speaker 1>and he wants to be in charge of protecting California's budget,

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<v Speaker 1>Like did you really not?

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<v Speaker 6>That wasn't that didn't raise any flags for you that

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<v Speaker 6>those payments.

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<v Speaker 7>So we were paying for management of a dormant account,

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<v Speaker 7>making sure that nothing was no laws were violated. Because

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<v Speaker 7>I was Secretary of Health and Human Service as a

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<v Speaker 7>cabinet member.

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<v Speaker 1>He has name dropped that job so many times. How

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<v Speaker 1>much could it cost to maintain a dormant account? What

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<v Speaker 1>do you have to do? Maybe fill out forms once

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<v Speaker 1>a year, that's it.

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<v Speaker 7>I had to distance myself from anything that looked political

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<v Speaker 7>or campaign related. I had ethics rules that were in

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<v Speaker 7>place that required me to distance myself, and so I

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<v Speaker 7>depended on people that I trusted to be able to

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<v Speaker 7>manage that the right way.

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<v Speaker 1>We were they managed it in Mexico. Oh yes, with

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<v Speaker 1>very expensive handbags.

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<v Speaker 7>We were going to pay for the management. You always

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<v Speaker 7>pay for someone to oversee to file the right documents

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<v Speaker 7>in the rest, and I was willing to pay the

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<v Speaker 7>price to make sure that I didn't have to worry

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<v Speaker 7>about it. Lo and behold, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Paid the most and I got nothing for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Finally got dragged into a scandal while I.

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<v Speaker 7>Was willing to pay a price. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 7>the attorneys of the campaign account signed off on all

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<v Speaker 7>those payments as well. Wasn't as if there wasn't someone

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<v Speaker 7>who was checking. The attorneys were checking and they were, so.

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<v Speaker 3>They're probably crooked too.

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<v Speaker 1>How many crooked people did this guy have on staff? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Sacramento was full of crooked consultants and crooked strategists and

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<v Speaker 1>crooked attorneys.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, and they were saying, you know, everything seemed kosher.

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<v Speaker 7>What happened was after the payments, the way the money

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<v Speaker 7>was used is where the violation occurred. There was no

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<v Speaker 7>violation in terms of the payment. That's why I and

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<v Speaker 7>my campaign were not implicated in the actual activities.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean the people involved. I mean a really well

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<v Speaker 6>known lobbyist and consultant. I mean two of them, Dana Williamson,

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<v Speaker 6>and one is escaping me right now.

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<v Speaker 1>That was his chief of staff, wasn't it. And there

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<v Speaker 1>was another lobbyist too, But.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean they just these are powerful people in Sacramento.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, like, just not to speak for you, but

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<v Speaker 6>it sounds like you were swindled or.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>This might go down as a worse interview for him

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<v Speaker 1>than the Alex interview, the scrubb At interview. I think

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<v Speaker 1>this one makes him look even dumber. And he looked

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<v Speaker 1>pretty dumb on that debate stage too.

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<v Speaker 7>But when you do the scrub