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Speaker 3: Over on Myke Cohlers can be your ten to fifty

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Speaker 3: and we'll give you some live looking straught. The the

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Speaker 3: What are they do this?

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Speaker 5: Josh Lucas plays Don Hask Derek Luke plays Bobby Joe Hill,

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Speaker 5: and Derek Luke also played Sean Diddy Combs in Notorious

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Speaker 3: changes the way you navigate and play the sea in

436
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Speaker 3: the NFL's divisional structure. The scheduling allows for all of

437
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Speaker 3: that to be really fun with rematches and all that,

438
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Speaker 3: But in terms of how consistent March Madness has been,

439
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Speaker 3: we've changed college football in my.

440
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Speaker 1: Lifetime, in our lifetime so many times.

441
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Speaker 3: I wean know, the BCS was terrible, the CFP was

442
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Speaker 3: really fun, and then we said it wasn't good enough

443
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Speaker 3: because it wasn't big enough. Now it's big and we're

444
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Speaker 3: saying is it too big or we doing it the

445
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Speaker 3: right way? So I don't know if if the CFP

446
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Speaker 3: will ever actually offer us what college basketball does because

447
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Speaker 3: because of the nature of the sport itself, that football

448
00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,520
Speaker 3: in and of itself, like it's just the way sports work. Yeah,

449
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Speaker 3: you can you can get anybody on any given Sunday,

450
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Speaker 3: but you're still gotta have the team. You gotta have

451
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Speaker 3: the guys. I don't know that we're ever going to

452
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Speaker 3: get a George Mason like run from a college football

453
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Speaker 3: team like you can get any year Steph Curry.

454
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Speaker 5: Lake run, have Twu Lane Upside Alabama the first.

455
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Speaker 3: Roundball teams get hot, but they get hot in a

456
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Speaker 3: different way, and you just you need to have the pieces.

457
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Speaker 3: Georgia is just not going to go down and you're

458
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Speaker 3: not gonna Toulane's not going to be three teams. The

459
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Speaker 3: status in Georgia in Ohio State.

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Speaker 5: Now most fleely like that, where like you know, like

461
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Speaker 5: I remember a couple of years ago we were doing

462
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Speaker 5: the show and Princeton beat Arizona and that that brings

463
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Speaker 5: everybody together.

464
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Speaker 1: It's so much fun in that way.

465
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Speaker 5: Again, like college basketball is not really my cup of tea,

466
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Speaker 5: but when we get to this time of year, it

467
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Speaker 5: is so much fun and I do think it's the

468
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Speaker 5: perfect postseason tournament where the NFL has changed. I love

469
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Speaker 5: the structure of it, but I do think the adding

470
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Speaker 5: of more teams and not having two of the top

471
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Speaker 5: seeds get the bye week.

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Speaker 1: Kind of not ruin it for you. But it's not

473
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Speaker 1: what I grew up with.

474
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Speaker 5: And like we've seen the MLB playoffs change so much

475
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Speaker 5: as well basketball too, where this has been relatively the same.

476
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Speaker 5: We've added more teams throughout the years. In the in

477
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Speaker 5: the first four back in twenty eleven, because it used

478
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Speaker 5: to be when we.

479
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Speaker 3: Were kids, it was a sixty fourteen field and there

480
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Speaker 3: was always one team that got to play in and

481
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Speaker 3: it was a sixteen seed, and they would always be

482
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Speaker 3: the sixty fourth team would have a play in to

483
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Speaker 3: get to play the number one team because even though

484
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Speaker 3: there's four brackets of sixteen, there's a true number one overall, right,

485
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Speaker 3: number one in the nation. So yeah, that number one

486
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Speaker 3: team would always play whoever that that sixteen seed. Then

487
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Speaker 3: we started doing it like a couple elevens, maybe nine.

488
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Speaker 3: Like I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that first four.

489
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Speaker 3: But to your point, we haven't expanded to a point

490
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Speaker 3: where it's changed the landscape.

491
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Speaker 5: But it's not drastically changing like this has been the

492
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Speaker 5: same since that's change sports.

493
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Speaker 3: It's a play in, it's not a different round. Now.

494
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Speaker 3: The worst, by far, by far, the worst is the

495
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Speaker 3: NBA playoffs. How long it takes again, it takes longer

496
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Speaker 3: than the first round, takes longer than the whole summer Olympics. Yeah,

497
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like it's it takes forever.

498
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Speaker 3: It's too many teams and it's too many games, is

499
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Speaker 3: the way I see it.

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Speaker 1: In too many drastic changes.

501
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Speaker 3: We're talking about too many games in the regular season.

502
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Speaker 3: I mean we're playing we're playing seven game series for

503
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Speaker 3: four rounds yea, and teams that shouldn't be And now

504
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Speaker 3: we're adding and we've added the play in tournament, and like,

505
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Speaker 3: now we've got thirty teams in the NBA and twenty

506
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Speaker 3: of them are competing in what is technically the postseason,

507
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Speaker 3: and it's like, this is what are we even playing

508
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Speaker 3: eighty some odd games? And it's why they're so I

509
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Speaker 3: think adding the play in has added so little value.

510
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Speaker 3: That's a huge contributor to the lack of value in

511
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Speaker 3: the regular season, which now they've tried to pump up

512
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Speaker 3: by adding an in season turnament, which is like, if

513
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Speaker 3: we had just put more value in.

514
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Speaker 1: The lead season, it's a joke.

515
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Speaker 5: But the playan like unless it's the Warriors playing the

516
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Speaker 5: Kings or you know, the Lakers a couple of years

517
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Speaker 5: ago against Lebron. I have not really enjoyed the play

518
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Speaker 5: and I have not had much interest in it. And yes,

519
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Speaker 5: to your point that it goes on forever. Back in

520
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Speaker 5: the day, I remember I was a kid, it was

521
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Speaker 5: best of five in the first round.

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Speaker 3: Rounds, which is why I remember Lebron at one point

523
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Speaker 3: started setting records in the playoffs, like the most points

524
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Speaker 3: ever scored in the first round or the most whatever

525
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Speaker 3: it was. And I go, well, yeah, Jordan was dispensing

526
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Speaker 3: of teams in three.

527
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Speaker 1: Exactly, you know what I mean.

528
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Speaker 3: Jordan's like knocking teams out in four games. Lebron's gotta

529
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Speaker 3: go five or six every year.

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Speaker 5: And that's the problem with the NBA playoffs, where it

531
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Speaker 5: goes on forever, and there's some games where we don't

532
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Speaker 5: even catch it, like it's on like NBA TV and

533
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Speaker 5: you just missed it because you're watching something else. Like

534
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Speaker 5: with this it's single elimination. I know that's not like

535
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Speaker 5: real basketball, like you determined things in a series, but

536
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Speaker 5: that's the fun of it. That is college basketball. You

537
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Speaker 5: get more upsets and again like the camaraderie of it all.

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Speaker 3: Were the conference tournament nature where there are conferences that

539
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Speaker 3: are one conference bids right where if you like, if

540
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Speaker 3: you're a team that was three and twenty five, but

541
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Speaker 3: you go to your conference tournament as the bottoms and

542
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Speaker 3: you win the Horizon League tournament even though you weren't

543
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Speaker 3: gonna go, you're the one team that goes. You get

544
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Speaker 3: to so no matter how your season plays out, you

545
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Speaker 3: get one ticket to your local dance for a shot

546
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Speaker 3: to go to the big dance, which is is unique

547
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Speaker 3: in every sport.

548
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Speaker 5: No, absolutely, but yeah, the camaraderie of it all where

549
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Speaker 5: I think people that don't even pay attention to college

550
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Speaker 5: basketball do a bracket like yeah, like even if you're

551
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Speaker 5: not in sports, like people that are in our office

552
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,679
Speaker 5: today are trying to cut out earlier, you know, get

553
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Speaker 5: their laptops open while they're trying to like go like

554
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Speaker 5: go on zoom or something like. That's the fun of it,

555
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Speaker 5: and there's so many games like the sixteen playoff games today,

556
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Speaker 5: and it you know, it declines as we go through.

557
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Speaker 3: The weeks and today sixteen, Tomorrow, eight Saturday, eight Sunday.

558
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Speaker 3: Then we got our sweet sixteen. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, it's incredible.

560
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Speaker 5: So that's why I think, Look, I prefer football, but

561
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Speaker 5: as far as like the structure of it and the

562
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Speaker 5: way that it brings everybody together, this is, by farm

563
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Speaker 5: my opinion, the best playoff format.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a lot of fun and the upset

565
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Speaker 3: nature of it. I mean, I hope we get more now.

566
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Speaker 5: And that's why I think like people people are more interested.

567
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Speaker 5: Like in the NFL, I think people like it when

568
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Speaker 5: the Stars win, like really like on a national level, Like, yeah,

569
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Speaker 5: we talked.

570
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Speaker 3: About it this year. We're like, yeah, it's kind of

571
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Speaker 3: a lackluster college exactly because it was we knew whoever

572
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Speaker 3: won the NFC was going to win the Super Bowl effectively.

573
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Speaker 1: Exactly, and it was it was a proboy liked it.

574
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Speaker 3: Was an AFC playoff that like perplexingly like like without

575
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Speaker 3: great reason, didn't involve Mahomes Burrow, Lamar Jackson. You got

576
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Speaker 3: Josh Allen who gets eliminated but you didn't have the

577
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Speaker 3: biggest names in the sport, which is rare in the NFL,

578
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Speaker 3: and it would never happen in the NBA because twenty

579
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Speaker 3: teams make.

580
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Speaker 5: It exactly like we all, like, you know, hate Patrick Mahomes,

581
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Speaker 5: but there was less interest in the AMC playoffs because

582
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Speaker 5: he wasn't there. Josh Allen got eliminated, Lamar Jackson wasn't there.

583
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Speaker 5: I think in college basketball you want those upsets, Like

584
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Speaker 5: unless you're a fan of Duke or UNC or those teams,

585
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 5: you don't want to see them advanced. When George Mason

586
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Speaker 5: goes to the sweet sixteen, that's fun. When Steph Curry

587
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Speaker 5: goes on a run with Davidson, that's fun. And that's

588
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Speaker 5: how we got to know him as Bay Area fans

589
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Speaker 5: when he got drafted with the Warriors.

590
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that it's there. There's a lot.

591
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Speaker 5: I think it's kind of overload sometimes, but I do

592
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Speaker 5: love March Madness and everything that brings with it.

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Speaker 3: YEA college basketball or NBA to me is the worst.

594
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I have it to be fair.

595
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Speaker 3: When I used to watch I would say used to

596
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Speaker 3: I never watched tons of hockey, but at any point

597
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Speaker 3: that I did. It was like most casual Barrier fans.

598
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Speaker 3: I mean I checked in on the Sharks a lot

599
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Speaker 3: in the postseason when I was in high school. And

600
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Speaker 3: beyond the run against the Penguins a few years back

601
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Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, that was big, I mean the Pavelski five

602
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Speaker 3: minute major. I watched the entirety of that game. Again,

603
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Speaker 3: I'm just not a wasn't a diehard about it. But

604
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Speaker 3: playoff hockey, I think is a lot, a lot more

605
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Speaker 3: grueling and fun to me. It has more of a

606
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Speaker 3: baseball field to it than it does an NBA field.

607
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Speaker 3: So I'm excited and hope hoping that God the Sharks

608
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Speaker 3: can pull something out here. Still a game back they've

609
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Speaker 3: got again, they've got They've got the one game. They've played,

610
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Speaker 3: one game less than the Kracking and the Kings in

611
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Speaker 3: front of them there at seventy games played. Cracking and

612
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Speaker 3: Los Angeles are at seventy one. But the Sharks, I

613
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Speaker 3: think that's where they're at. But no. Sixty eight or

614
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Speaker 3: whatever it is, it's seventy and seventy one points. They're

615
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Speaker 3: a point back, but they're also a game shot. So

616
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Speaker 3: a win tonight against Buffalo at home would be huge.

617
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Speaker 3: But it's Buffalo.

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Speaker 5: We would be greating YaST the Sabers on a roll

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Speaker 5: right now, and tomorrow will be joined also by Will

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Speaker 5: Smith at two fifty.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, yes, Sharks. Will Smith joins us tomorrow at

622
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Speaker 3: two fifty. We'll be talking to him about the Sharks

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Speaker 3: stretch run eight Oway cambe our four win to five,

624
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Speaker 3: eight to eight, five six two seven is the number

625
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Speaker 3: to call and the number to text. I mean, March

626
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Speaker 3: madness provides, and this is the thing, It provides the

627
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Speaker 3: greatest opportunity for a Cinderella run. Yes, I think baseball

628
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Speaker 3: is the other sport, major sport that provides that. In

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Speaker 3: basketball and the NBA, it's tough, but in baseball it's

630
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Speaker 3: why it's it's you gotta be talented, but it's not

631
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Speaker 3: necessarily a superstar driven league, as evidence by Barry Bond's

632
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Speaker 3: going to one World Series ever, Sammy Josi, didn't you

633
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Speaker 3: know what I mean? You've got You've got Shoeyo Tani

634
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Speaker 3: and Mike Trout on the same team, on the same

635
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Speaker 3: team and they never went to the playoff. Absolutely. I

636
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Speaker 3: mean that should tell you how hard it is to

637
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Speaker 3: be a good baseball team. It's why guys jump to

638
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 3: other teams with pieces, where one guy going to a

639
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Speaker 3: lineup that's bad is not going to change entirely the

640
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Speaker 3: organization per se. No Ore's one superstar in the NBA

641
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Speaker 3: going to a team that's a playoff team, I would.

642
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Speaker 5: Say that happens in the NFL and MLB, where the

643
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Speaker 5: teams that get hot usually going to roll in the postseason.

644
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Speaker 5: Where in the NBA it doesn't matter what happens in the

645
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Speaker 5: regular season. If you have the top seed, you're probably

646
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Speaker 5: going to advance. But in recent years we've seen like

647
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Speaker 5: you know, Jimmy Butler in the heat advance.

648
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Speaker 3: But really, really does that happen?

649
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Speaker 5: He was an eight seed, an eight seed, he was

650
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Speaker 5: a fifth seed, and both times he got to the

651
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Speaker 5: finals and loss. But yeah, that really happens to the

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Speaker 5: NBA when usually teams like the Warriors dominated, right.

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Speaker 3: It's I mean, and when you do, you get a

654
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Speaker 3: little run like the we Believe Warriors, which is kind

655
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Speaker 3: of brings us to our next point. March Madness provides

656
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Speaker 3: the greatest Cinderella opportunities, but one of the best Cinderella

657
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Speaker 3: stories in Bay Area sports history. We Believe Warriors are

658
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Speaker 3: up there. Absolutely got to go to the eighty one

659
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Speaker 3: forty nine ers, right.

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Speaker 5: I think with the fact that they beat the Cowboys. Yes,

661
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Speaker 5: they had a dominant season, but many people didn't believe

662
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Speaker 5: they win that game.

663
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Speaker 3: It's also about how you reviewed coming into that season.

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Speaker 3: Can we talk about this year's forty nine ers. Is

665
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Speaker 3: that a Cinderella run? We'll talk about that eightaway? Canby

666
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Speaker 3: our four win five, eight to eight, five sixty two seven?

667
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Speaker 3: What do you think of the best Cinderella runs or

668
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Speaker 3: best Cinderella teams in Bay Area sports history? We'll talk

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Speaker 3: about that next. Dirty Work. It's a Thursday. It's the

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Speaker 3: Dirty Work on a Thursday, March Madness Thursday tournament started

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Speaker 3: this morning. We're all paying attention to our spread pool

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Speaker 3: here at the Sports Leader. The spread pool where you

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Speaker 3: get four teams, one in each region, which room out

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Speaker 3: of a hat, and then based on whatever the spread is,

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Speaker 3: you go head to head with another member of the

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Speaker 3: Camber staff. If your team covers the spread, you move

683
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Speaker 3: on either with your team if they won, or you

684
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Speaker 3: get to steal the team from your opponent. Danny and

685
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 3: I went head to head earlier, and Danny Danny had

686
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Speaker 3: Louisville at South Florida Louisville minus four and a half.

687
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Speaker 3: South Florida lost by four. Louisville advances, but I steal

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Speaker 3: Louisville from Danny. You and I are going head to head, yes,

689
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Speaker 3: we right now. We're at the half. Right now, it's

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Speaker 3: a Hawaii Derek's Hawaii Rainbow Warriors. Let's go Warriors against

691
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Speaker 3: my Arkansas Razorbacks pig suy. Yes, and they're down by

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Speaker 3: fifteen and a half point spread right now at the half.

693
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Speaker 3: Fifteen points fifty four to thirty nine is the spread.

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Speaker 3: So Derek needs to needs some help in the second half. Yeah,

695
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 3: to move on. I'd like to hold on to Arkansas,

696
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 3: so we'll see what happens. SEC was tough this year, so.

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Speaker 1: I'm told I wouldn't know either.

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Speaker 3: The game of the day so far for me was Sienna.

699
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Speaker 3: I know they lost well the game the episode was

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Speaker 3: high point over Wisconsin, of course, Yes, eighty three. As

701
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 3: far as upsets, yes, that's the first big upset, but

702
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Speaker 3: the the high point of their season.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't a bad call. That wasn't a bad call.

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Speaker 3: But the the other game with Siena was up at

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Speaker 3: the half against Duke sixteen seeded CNA against Duke, what.

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Speaker 1: Was their biggest lead?

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Speaker 3: To think double digits?

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Speaker 4: I think so.

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Speaker 3: I think they're double digits the half. They only played

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Speaker 3: five guys for all forty minutes. Yeah, that's insane forty minutes.

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Speaker 1: Aha, when's do really to say, like, you know, like,

712
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Speaker 1: oh this is overseen? Is gonna win first half?

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Speaker 9: Right?

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Speaker 3: College basketball? Tell you this? College basketball is a game

715
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Speaker 3: of runs. Yes, it's all about is your team going

716
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 3: to get the run? And usually about like your team

717
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 3: hasn't got on the run into the better team, and

718
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 3: it's like the seven minute mark, six minute mark of

719
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Speaker 3: the second half, you get to that under eight time out,

720
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Speaker 3: TV time out and they haven't gone on the run.

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Speaker 3: You're like, it's about time to do that. If they

722
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Speaker 3: don't go on the runner, shots aren't fallow.

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Speaker 1: That makes sense in the second half.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've watched.

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Speaker 1: So many games with Dan Dunn.

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Speaker 5: Well he'll he will say in the first half of

727
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Speaker 5: anything football, basketball, Like, oh.

728
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Speaker 1: This is over.

729
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Speaker 5: I were watching the game today with CNN and Duke,

730
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Speaker 5: and I'm like, dude, they have a whole second half

731
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Speaker 5: to play. Also, they're Duke, They're bound to turn it

732
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Speaker 5: on the second half. He goes, now it's over, Derek

733
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Speaker 5: s whate of this thing.

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Speaker 3: Danny sees a game down in the first half, a

735
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Speaker 3: team down in the first half of any sporting event,

736
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Speaker 3: and he has the same reactions when he sees a

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Speaker 3: pack ketchup. This is over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is throwing in my mouth, my mouth, this is.

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Speaker 3: Over, dude, just laughing, packed mouth, dude, Danil, would you

740
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Speaker 3: call yourself a pessimist high point panther?

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Speaker 2: Uh, generally speaking, no, because uh, I remember a couple

742
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Speaker 2: of years ago, Derek, just converse to your point, is

743
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Speaker 2: that the Giants were what I don't know, Oh yeah,

744
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 2: you'll still very aistic.

745
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: You're very you were.

746
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: You were taking the opposite approach where you're like, damn

747
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: their seasons though.

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Speaker 3: Was it in a game or was it in a season?

749
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Speaker 3: In the season, yeah, through twenty sixteen. I remember Bonte

750
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Speaker 3: was still working at the Leader and at one point

751
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: was going to train me when I started. I remember

752
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 3: the Giants kind of were teetering in twenty sixteen, and

753
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Speaker 3: then they started to go on that run at the end,

754
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Speaker 3: because remember the second half, they were the worst team

755
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 3: in baseball after being the best in the first half.

756
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 3: Johnnyquita started the All Star Game, and then they all

757
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 3: just kind of kind of fell apart. But they still

758
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 3: made the playoffs, ended up losing to the Cubs. But

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Speaker 3: I kept saying, there was that magical feeling about the ten, twelve, fourteen,

760
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 3: even w sixteen Giants or Bonta kept saying to me,

761
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 3: it's over, Bro, it's over. And I kept saying, I'm

762
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 3: just saying, Bro, I'm just saying And that's that's been

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Speaker 3: one of our things for years, is when something flares

764
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Speaker 3: up for the Giants, I'll text them I'm just saying, bro.

765
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Speaker 3: And of course we were both stoked that they ended

766
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Speaker 3: up making the postseason, but I in general, that ero

767
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Speaker 3: was magical. Twenty ten. Though we're talking Cinderella runs, the

768
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Speaker 3: twenty ten Giants is near the top of my list,

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Speaker 3: and people on the text line we're checking a nine

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Speaker 3: to one sixes. I didn't hear a mention of the

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Speaker 3: twenty ten San Francisco Giants. We didn't get into the

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Speaker 3: list yet of best Bay Area Cinderella teams.

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Speaker 5: Okay, but how we how we saying teams are Cinderella's

774
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Speaker 5: it that to be where they were a low sea

775
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Speaker 5: going into the postseason or expectations when the season started.

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Speaker 3: I don't think all. I mean, I think you're I

777
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 3: think it changes. It's a right, like a team that

778
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Speaker 3: goes on a run at the end of the season

779
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Speaker 3: and wasn't expected to make the playoffs. Like a couple

780
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Speaker 3: of years ago, the Tigers were absolutely a Cinderella story.

781
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Speaker 3: Remember they were like under five hundred and they lost

782
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Speaker 3: to the Giants at Oracle Park, and then they went

783
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Speaker 3: on that run where like they didn't they lose nothing

784
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Speaker 3: for like the rest of August and September and marched

785
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Speaker 3: into the Alcs, right, and the Guardians had like a

786
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Speaker 3: big like you know, the Guardians did that this year

787
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: where they were about five hundred. The problem was the

788
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Speaker 3: Guardians were viewed as a top team in the Central

789
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Speaker 3: coming into the season, right. Yeah, while they had one

790
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Speaker 3: of the greatest comebacks or like a top three or

791
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Speaker 3: or top two comeback in the history of any division

792
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Speaker 3: that late in the season because this year the Guardians

793
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 3: went on that crazy run and then got bounced, But

794
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Speaker 3: I think they were it was like that was perplexing

795
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Speaker 3: based on how the season had gone. But I think

796
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Speaker 3: they were viewed because of how how well they played

797
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Speaker 3: the year season before. Vote was Manager of the Year

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Speaker 3: the season before exactly, I think they were looked at

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Speaker 3: as a better team. So it just sort of depends

800
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Speaker 3: on one how the season goes. Like, nobody I don't

801
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 3: think saw the Niners as a super low end team

802
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 3: coming into this year. There was just a lot of questions.

803
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Speaker 3: But after how the season played out, I think you

804
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 3: look back and retroactively say they were kind of a

805
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,959
Speaker 3: Cinderella team who's clock struck midnight on there and they

806
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 3: turned into a pumpkin against against Seattle.

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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, the injuries played a factor in that.

808
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Speaker 5: And yes, going into the season, I think we expected

809
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 5: them to be a wildcard team. I think the favor

810
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Speaker 5: wears was the Rams for the additions they made with

811
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Speaker 5: Devonte Adams and then yeah, I remember us doing the

812
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Speaker 5: round table and all of a sudd maybe eleven and.

813
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Speaker 1: Six and they were a fifth seed to sixth seed

814
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Speaker 1: this year.

815
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Speaker 3: In the postseason, Cinderella can also be a team of

816
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 3: like nobody's yeah, except like the twenty ten Giants. That

817
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 3: was their whole thing was they were a team of

818
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 3: misfits and cast offs, is what they said, right. Aubrey

819
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Speaker 3: Huff was not a like an elite player. He done

820
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 3: a pretty good career, pretty bad post career, yeah, but

821
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Speaker 3: he's a he had like he was a good player

822
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 3: for Tampa and for Baltimore, but had never been on

823
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Speaker 3: winning teams. And when they signed him, I remember being like, ah,

824
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 3: it's kind of a DH, Like he's a power hit.

825
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 3: In first basement, I kind of viewed him as a

826
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Speaker 3: clesco but he'd had a decent career to that point.

827
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Speaker 3: Drosa they had signed, but he had gotten hurt. And

828
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 3: then they you know, John Bowker's the opening day rightfielder.

829
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Speaker 3: They had a bunch of pitching, but they weren't viewed

830
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Speaker 3: as a team that was going to go on a

831
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Speaker 3: big run. Even after the eighty eight win season. They

832
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Speaker 3: were picked to win the division in twenty ten, and

833
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 3: then they go on that run in August and September,

834
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Speaker 3: the Padres end up kind of peeing the bed, and

835
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Speaker 3: the Padres even in the final day of the final

836
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 3: weekend of the season had to sweep. The Giants only

837
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 3: needed to win one. They lost Friday. Saturday, they lose

838
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 3: and they get the Don't Stop Believing from from Steve

839
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Speaker 3: Perry at the ballpark leads the songs Perry and then

840
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 3: they come out on that final day where I left

841
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 3: work and I got written up.

842
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, remember yep.

843
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 3: I called my manager and she's like, well, if you

844
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 3: get written up, and I said, well, what happens? Then

845
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 3: she goaes, well, then then as you get a second one,

846
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 3: then you can end up with a third time. It's

847
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 3: an opportunity check and then you can get fired strike.

848
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 3: So this is strike one of four. See on Monday,

849
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 3: go to the ball game to watch John Sanchez. But

850
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 3: I mean that was was unexpected. And then they go

851
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: on the run, of course through the postseason and and win.

852
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 3: I mean twenty twelve was fairly unexpected. I mean they

853
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: go down also two, and then that becomes a huge

854
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 3: comeback and they sweep.

855
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Speaker 1: And I wouldn't call them, Can you a Cinderella when

856
00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: you've already won not two years?

857
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Speaker 3: Not really so ten I would say yes, they're in

858
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 3: the Cinderella window absolutely, because they came out of nowhere too.

859
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: Okay, but what was the bigger surprise?

860
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 3: I had and made the playoffs and were like clawing

861
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 3: at it and then finally got it done.

862
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Speaker 5: As far as the playoff run, what was a bigger

863
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 5: surprise the O two Giants being a wild card team

864
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Speaker 5: or the twenty ten Giants.

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Speaker 3: The two Giants were. Barry Bonds was hurt at the deadline.

866
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Speaker 3: They traded for Kenny Lofton. They didn't have a leadoff hitter.

867
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 3: They were a wildcard team. Yeah, I think the O

868
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 3: two Giants were maybe more of a This is the

869
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 3: thing though, when they had that payroll and they had

870
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 3: that talent, you had bonds off of seventy three.

871
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: They still had bonds ye by the way, there you.

872
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 3: Go, had bonds at seventy three homers. Jeff Kent was

873
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 3: the reigning MVP, and they didn't make the playoffs. You know,

874
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 3: one if they didn't have the pitching. Yep, they just

875
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 3: didn't and still didn't really have tons of it in

876
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 3: two thousand and and two, but they'd made moves in

877
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 3: the offseason to acquire more.

878
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 5: They also lost the division by two games of the

879
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 5: d Becks, so not that wide of a margin.

880
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 3: What in O two you know too, right, But the

881
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 3: d Backs were far and away the best team they

882
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 3: won in two thousand and one. They still had Johnson

883
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 3: and Shilling. Yep, they were. They were pretty incredible that duo.

884
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 3: So and then and then the Potters weren't all that good.

885
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 3: The Rockies were nothing really at that point. The Dodgers

886
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 3: were around, but they were were near the end of

887
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 3: the McCourt era, and they weren't weren't doing a ton

888
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 3: They were actually weren't near the end yet. They hadn't

889
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 3: gone into their Manny Would era quite yet.

890
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 6: And No. Two.

891
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 3: The point was the O two Giants once they got

892
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 3: in and they made that run like they weren't supposed

893
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 3: to get past the Braves. They weren't supposed toet past

894
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 3: the Cardinals, who I feared was a team of destiny.

895
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 3: With all the emotions around around the loss of Darryl

896
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 3: Kyle and Jack Buck that same season, I remember being like,

897
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 3: oh man, they lost Daryl Kyle and Jack Buck and

898
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 3: were playing against them, and he got Joe Buck and

899
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 3: Tim McCarver on the call with the Cardinal Hall of

900
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 3: Fame broadcaster and the son of the guy who passed

901
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 3: the legendary broadcaster and Giants ended up pulling it out

902
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 3: in five, and then they end up losing to the Angels,

903
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 3: who by the way, were also a walk card Cinderella team.

904
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 3: They got past the Yankees Adam Kennedy hit like two

905
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 3: homers in a in a playoff game, and when MVP,

906
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 3: they got past the Twins. After the Twins beat the A's.

907
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 5: There cinere Cinderella story in themselves with the run the

908
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 5: A's had that year, going.

909
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: Twenty two consecutive victory twenty yes, get twenty.

910
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: I was gonna say the two. If the O two

911
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 3: Giants or Cinderella, the A's have to be two because

912
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 3: that's the moneyball story, right. Yes, they lost the MVP

913
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 3: and Jason Isringhausen their closer, and there was another big piece.

914
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: I think they lost Jonny Damon.

915
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 3: Johnny Damon leaves right and goes to Boston and they

916
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 3: traded for Johnny Damon from Kansas City previously on a

917
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 3: cheaper deal. So they then have Migdelta Hoda who becomes

918
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 3: the MVP that year. Yep, Zito wins the sy Molder

919
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 3: and Honey, you are incredible, but they weren't Still, they

920
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 3: weren't expected to be better than they were the year

921
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 3: before after losing those players. Usually when you lose talent,

922
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 3: you don't get better. They lost the MVP.

923
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 1: That one team was miles better than the two team.

924
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 3: And the O two team. Then with Scott, I mean

925
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 3: that has to be viewed as a Cinderella story. Oh, absolutely,

926
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 3: twenty twelve days for where they were, were they finished, Yes,

927
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 3: Bob Melvin, twenty twelveays is a Cinderella story for me.

928
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 3: Two yes, with no expectition like the cy eight wins

929
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 3: or something the year before, and they come back and

930
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 3: win ninety six or ninety seven and win the division. Also,

931
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 3: what was that year? Might have been the following year,

932
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 3: but they were better that year when they beat the

933
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 3: actually might have been the twenty twelve season. I think

934
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 3: when they beat Texas in the final day of the year. Yes,

935
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 3: Coco say No No, the Bay doing like Coco's burning

936
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 3: then at home plate. The twenty twelve Days were a party.

937
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 3: That was a really fun team, and I thought that

938
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 3: was I thought that was Cinderella. Then Verlander, oh seven yeays,

939
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 3: Well you see Verlander in the playoffs unless you're the Giants. Yeah,

940
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 3: in the World Series. Uh, the seven. We believe Warriors

941
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 3: because they were an eight seed.

942
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 5: I think that's like when when we're talking about like

943
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 5: the definition of a Cinderella team, like that was an

944
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 5: eight seed. They were going up against the mighty Dallas

945
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 5: Mavericks and even though they beat them.

946
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: I think it was the MVP.

947
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 5: I think he was and they I think they beat

948
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 5: them three times in the regular season.

949
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: But no one put a lot.

950
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 5: Of stock into that because I think the Mavericks were resting.

951
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 5: But the fact that Don Nelson going up against his

952
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 5: former team, they dominated that series. And I remember living

953
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 5: in Houston at the time, there were some Mavericks fans

954
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 5: like he sorry, I asked Warriors they win in this,

955
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 5: and sure enough Baron.

956
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 3: Davis and they made that Jackson. Yes, it was an

957
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 3: in season trade for because I think they got Barren

958
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 3: the year before. Uh yeah, I believe they they traded

959
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 3: for Barron the season before and then that season in

960
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 3: season or O seven was the year six or seven

961
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 3: was either they traded for with the Pacers. Right, they

962
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 3: traded Speedy Claccid and Dale Davis. Yes, I want to

963
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 3: say for Al Harrington and stack Jack What a deal

964
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 3: that was absolutely and then and then don Nelson just

965
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 3: rolled the ball out and said, go play ball, bulls,

966
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, just like, oh yeah, go run,

967
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 3: go run until you can't run anymore.

968
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 5: But that, to me, like that team is the epitome

969
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 5: of Cinderella, where I don't think anybody was expecting that,

970
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 5: And the dominating way that they finished that series, Uh

971
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 5: Carolinko the dunk on him. And then yes, they ultimately

972
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 5: lose to the the the Utah Jazz next series, but for.

973
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 3: A while, was the Carolina dunk? Was the Jazz? Oh yeah,

974
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 3: jez series?

975
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, But for my money, like I I think

976
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 5: that's that's pretty much number one in my book when

977
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 5: it comes to Cinderella Bay Area teams, Like, yes, you

978
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 5: could say like the twenty ten Giants went on a roll,

979
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 5: the nineteen eighty one forty nine Ers went on a role,

980
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 5: but that's where we knew they were good in the

981
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 5: regular season. This is where I was complete surprise once

982
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 5: we started the postseason. So I think that the Warriors,

983
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 5: if I'm gonna say a Cinderella team, it's the we

984
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 5: believe team.

985
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: For a while.

986
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 5: They're like before Steph and Clay and Raymond won their championships,

987
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 5: everybody's favorite Warrior season if you're watching them in Oakland,

988
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 5: were definitely the we believe Wars.

989
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 3: It was our only it was our only run. So

990
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 3: the I think what Bay Area fans would say, people

991
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 3: older than us, and I think this has to be it.

992
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 3: I know you said the eighty one nine ers had

993
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 3: a good season in eighty one of them going into

994
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 3: a no one expected them to do. I think that

995
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 3: has to be it because that is the number one

996
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 3: like the eighties nine ers, and you have to have

997
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 3: this perspective about them, like they fostered and built the

998
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 3: foundation of what fandom for any sport became in the

999
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 3: Bay Area for a generation beyond. Like again, my parents

1000
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 3: are of the eighties forty nine er generation. Right, the

1001
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 3: Giants came in fifty eight and the Maze era was

1002
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 3: all good, and that helped build the baseball foundation here.

1003
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 3: And I think in twenty ten and twelve and fourteen

1004
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 3: he showed we're a baseball town. And now we're starving

1005
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 3: for a super Bowl title. Because again, if you're our

1006
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 3: age or my age, you haven't seen one. They're two

1007
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 3: and three in my life and I don't remember the

1008
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 3: two they won in eighty nine and uh in ninety four.

1009
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 3: So the eighty one nine ers though, as somebody checks

1010
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 3: in here on the text line four ohits is dude,

1011
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: they were four to one to win the Super Bowl.

1012
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 3: Going into excuse me, the eighty one nine Ers were

1013
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 3: plus five thy fifty to one to win the Super

1014
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 3: Bowl in eighty one. The twenty ten Giants were forty

1015
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 3: to one. So we're pretty good on the twenty ten Giants.

1016
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 3: I'm with you, but it's more to me about exactly

1017
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 3: why the twenty ten Giants I view as a cinderella

1018
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers in eighty one, like if you

1019
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 3: hadn't been clawing in the playoffs like it was, it

1020
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 3: was a surprise the Warriors became as good and as

1021
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 3: dominant as they were. Yeah, of course with Steph Curry

1022
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 3: once the hired Steve Kerr. But they were in the

1023
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 3: post seas, been to the playoffs, and it was it was, man,

1024
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 3: they can't get over the hump. Can't get over the hump.

1025
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 3: Same as as Oklahoma City last year. They were clawed

1026
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 3: already and we kept saying they're coming, They're coming, They're

1027
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 3: gonna be really, really good. They're on their way and

1028
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 3: sure enough, now they're building the dynasty. But for teams

1029
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 3: that weren't in the playoffs jump in and then explode,

1030
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: That's where you're like, how could they not be viewed

1031
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 3: that way when they weren't viewed as an up and

1032
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 3: coming team in the preseason.

1033
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 5: No, it went from them in nineteen seventy nine having

1034
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 5: two wins, and then nineteen eighty six wins and then

1035
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 5: nineteen eighty one thirteen and three. I just think that

1036
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 5: they were dominant that season. So again, like, what's their

1037
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,959
Speaker 5: different Cinderella? But it does apply because at that point

1038
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 5: in time, the Dallas Cowboys dominate the NFC and historically

1039
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 5: always dominated the forty nine ers of the postseason. That

1040
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 5: moment is a Cinderella moment where Dwight Clark goes against

1041
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 5: the catch, so that you know, changed the fortune of

1042
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 5: both franchises. Where the Niners dominating the eighties and the

1043
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 5: Cowboys lose conference championships, that's, to me the Cinderella moment.

1044
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 5: I don't know if nineteen eighty one to forty nine

1045
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 5: ers are a Cinderella team, I would say, yeah, it's funny.

1046
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 3: There are some organizations like there's no such thing as

1047
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 3: a Cinderella team in Yankee lore.

1048
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: No, of course not if you're the Yankees. It depends

1049
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: on the franchise.

1050
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 3: Nobody would ever be like this lowly duke basketball team

1051
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 3: defies the odds and shocks the world. We're like, yeah, no,

1052
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 3: you're dude, Yeah exactly, You're a blue bo You may

1053
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 3: have a down year, but come on now, okay, let

1054
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 3: me ask you this. When weal we talked Cinderella a lot.

1055
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 3: I think Cinderella gets the most run of any princess

1056
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 3: in just like general talk, because of sports talk. Yeah,

1057
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 3: Cinderella story.

1058
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: Started with the night the caddy shack, Bill Murray Cinderella.

1059
00:40:54,760 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 3: Story, Say, California Cinsimelia blue. It's a hybrid. You play

1060
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 3: thirty six holes on in the afternoon, get stoned to

1061
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 3: the bejeezs on her ton't they? Where does Cinderella rank though,

1062
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 3: among among the great princesses? And oh in like good

1063
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 3: storybook lore, Like I don't know that I even rank

1064
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 3: her that high.

1065
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: Well, just name alone, that's the go to or like

1066
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: Rapunzel or who else?

1067
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, Like she's sort of interchangeable. But I

1068
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 3: feel like the Cinderella in nature of it is because

1069
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 3: she's the downtrodden, like she's got the evil stepsisters. It's

1070
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 3: almost like she's third in the division. They're picking on her.

1071
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 3: And then she makes she has a flare up, she

1072
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 3: gets like Kurt Warner and Steve Breaston and fits and

1073
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 3: all of a sudden she's a force for a minute.

1074
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 3: But then she gets to the ball against the Pittsburgh Steelers,

1075
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: she turns into a pumpkin. Yeah, it's almost like a

1076
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 3: Cinderella story. Isn't a Cinderella story? Not really? When they're

1077
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 3: like they're completely I mean really to complete the Cinderella story,

1078
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 3: you've got to win it all. Yes, you know what

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00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 3: I mean, Because doesn't she the Prince finds her in

1080
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 3: the glass slipper, Yeah, which I always wonder why wins

1081
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 3: at all? Why doesn't the glass slipper turn back when

1082
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 3: she puts like how like everything else, like it turns

1083
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 3: back into a pumpkin. The dress is gone, but not

1084
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 3: the glass slipper. Why does the Yeah, how come that

1085
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 3: still exists?

1086
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: She could have walk in those things?

1087
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 3: Why was the like the Prince finds it like it's

1088
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 3: like sit still it is you know what I mean?

1089
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 3: Why is it not like a pile of leaves. Let's

1090
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like what whatever godmother made it?

1091
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: That's an oversent on Disney.

1092
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, we have to get into the sience of

1093
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 3: everything wrong with Cinderella.

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00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: We definitely do, Okay, so.

1095
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 3: Let's get into this because I'm not even talking about like, yeah,

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00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 3: I mean like she's pretty, she's not my type Cinderella, Okay,

1097
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 3: but like that's not what I'm going after. I mean,

1098
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 3: like if we were going to break them down.

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00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: Like like on looks or are we going by like

1100
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: cinderella story?

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00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 3: No, maybe like Cinderella's story, like she has obviously a

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00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: top one, but like did she overcome more adversity than anybody?

1103
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 3: I sort of feel like her adversity was light?

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00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she wasn't like comparison to recent Disney movies.

1105
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean like dude, Rapunzel got gas lit into

1106
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: us into a tower for the entire like you can't leave, no,

1107
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 3: if you leave the less it man. Yeah, you know

1108
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 3: what I mean. She didn't have any witches or poisonous apples.

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00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 5: Or or beasts or I would say snow White did

1110
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 5: dealt with more adversity than Cinderella did?

1111
00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 3: I mean, you got the yeah seven men, the internal one.

1112
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 3: Let's get into this in a way, KNBR where does

1113
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 3: Cinderella rank. I think we've got to break it down

1114
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 3: in terms of like which which Disney princess did, Like

1115
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 3: like if we're gonna go category and we're gonna break

1116
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 3: it down like it was like a draft prospect if

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00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 3: we went by like adversity overcome, like the curse slash

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Speaker 3: spell difficulty that they had spell. I think you played

1119
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 3: the cast and spells and stuff. But we're getting at

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Speaker 3: and then there's gotta be like a dirty work index

1121
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 3: dirty work rating. Okay, like they're not just singing in

1122
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 3: a castle, right, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: They're actually like going through it.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna break this down like Enosaurus has help with

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Speaker 5: the analytics on this.

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00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 3: Cinderella stories and sports. But also I don't know that

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00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 3: Cinderella cracks my top five in terms of Disney princesses

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Speaker 3: or a princess lore. We'll get into that next dirty work.

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Speaker 3: On a Thursday, Jilly Place, you're getting Cinderella breakdowns on

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Speaker 3: the Sports Leader.

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Speaker 5: Dirty Work On a Thursday, Adam Copeland Derek Poppa the

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Speaker 5: first day of the tourney March Madness. Later on the show,

1141
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 5: we'll be joined by Sam Amock at three point fifty

1142
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 5: and Enosaurus at four to fifty. Earlier in the show,

1143
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 5: we were talking about the best Bay Area Cinderella teams

1144
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 5: and we did not mention. I gotta mention this the

1145
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 5: nineteen eighty Oakland Raiders because they were the first wildcard

1146
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 5: team to make the Super Bowl and they wanted against

1147
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 5: the nineteen eighty Philadelphia Eagles, who were at the.

1148
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Speaker 1: Top of the NFC.

1149
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 5: So yes, you gotta mention them when you're talking about

1150
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 5: the best Bay Area Cinderella teams. But before we went

1151
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 5: to break Copes mentioned Cinderella. Is she actually a Cinderella story,

1152
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 5: because when you think about it, like a Disney princess lore,

1153
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 5: Is she at the top, Yes, she goes through adversity.

1154
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 5: But there's other princess out there. Mu launce a white

1155
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 5: Bill Pocahontas, like crack even the top five there.

1156
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 3: I come back from the bathroom. I was like, oh man,

1157
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 3: we're on it. I said, the light on and that

1158
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 3: I come in out here. Derrek Quinn. Yesderella is great,

1159
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 3: but is she at the top? Man on coming into

1160
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 3: serious breakdown. This is the kind of stuff you're getting

1161
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 3: on dirty work. Oh yeah, that's why. Like yesterday when

1162
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 3: Van said, dude, I don't come to dirty work. He

1163
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: texted and he said, I don't come to dirty work

1164
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 3: for you guys to break down the rotation for four hours.

1165
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 3: And I was like you, I mean you're gonna get that.

1166
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 3: That's what we're here for. Yeah, we're here to be

1167
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 3: your sports talk buddies.

1168
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: We'll do that during baseball season.

1169
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 3: Absolute these people would check in here, like would you

1170
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 3: guys become Cisco and Eber And I was like when

1171
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 3: when they gave me a microphone and I and I

1172
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 3: had to fill four hours and I like talking about

1173
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 3: what I two thumbs and I like speaking of and

1174
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 3: we'll get into this later. I went and saw I

1175
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 3: saw the press screening of Project, Hail Mary Last.

1176
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 1: Nice dude, solid movie, yeah.

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00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's one of those movies where I've been

1178
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 3: thinking about it since.

1179
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 8: I saw it.

1180
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: Got Me, Got Me to that sign.

1181
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 3: Dude, hits on multiple levels. I was thinking though, at

1182
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 3: one point in the movie, I'm like, I think this

1183
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 3: is one of those movies we talked about, Yeah, where

1184
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 3: they tell they tell you the plot of the movie

1185
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 3: a couple of times throughout.

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00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: Oh they pulled a conan in Sterling K.

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Speaker 6: Brown.

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00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have to tell you a few times what's

1189
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 3: going on, which I didn't forget right, But also the

1190
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 3: character himself, it's a little bit like that.

1191
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: The character himself has a.

1192
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 3: Memory loss and he's trying to figure out exactly what

1193
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 3: he's doing too, so you're sort of doing it with him.

1194
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 3: But the premise of the movie, it does one of

1195
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 3: those like Tarantino things where it kind of starts at

1196
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 3: the end that it comes back you they sort of

1197
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 3: meet in the middle.

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Speaker 8: You see.

1199
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Speaker 3: But it's dude, it's a solid movie, lighthearted, good laughs,

1200
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 3: good sort of sci fi movie, good story. Written by

1201
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 3: the same dude. I forget the guy's name, Andrew Weir

1202
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 3: or something.

1203
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 1: Weird guy wrote No, not No, not not Peter Weirs.

1204
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Speaker 3: It's the same guy I wrote The Martian. Yeah, the

1205
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 3: same guy who adapted The Martian to the screenplay did

1206
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 3: this book to screenplay anyway, It's about two and a

1207
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 3: half hours, and didn't feel like it was like too long.

1208
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Speaker 3: Get moves. It's lighthearted. There's some good comedy stuff and

1209
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Speaker 3: some heartfelt stuff. I really it was a good movie.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a big sci fi guy, but I haven't

1211
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Speaker 1: seen The Martian. I heard it's very good.

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Speaker 3: Parson's great. Yeah, that's not really I'm gonna guess it's

1213
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 3: sci fi, but it's it's good premise of a movie.

1214
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 3: Dude gets stranded on Mars and he's a botanist and

1215
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 3: has to figure out how to survive. So technically scia.

1216
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: In comparison to was it Interstellar?

1217
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 3: How is it much different? Way different? Interstellar is more

1218
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 3: like a psychological thriller almost and.

1219
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: A little too much.

1220
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Speaker 3: If I had to say, well, do you ever see Tenant? Yes,

1221
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 3: way too senas work. Chris Nolan Jumped the Shark. That's

1222
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 3: a movie where they stopped it like five times to

1223
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 3: retail you with the plot, and I never doubt it.

1224
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 3: They're like by the way, this isn't time travel, it's

1225
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 3: just a mirror universe. Like I've always said, he's out

1226
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 3: of his mind.

1227
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 5: No, I've always said Tennant is basically Christopher Nolan loving

1228
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 5: the smell of his own farts, just like, Oh yeah,

1229
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 5: this is my script. And and I'm gonna say over

1230
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 5: and over again why this script is so fantastic although

1231
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 5: you guys can't comprehend it.

1232
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 3: So the question at hand is in the Cinderella runs

1233
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 3: that happen in March Madison, we're talking the best Cinderella

1234
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 3: teams in uh, in the sport's history. I asked the question,

1235
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 3: what is Cinderella even the top princess in Princess lor

1236
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Speaker 3: I don't even want to say Disney just sort of

1237
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 3: like in Princess Laura, I don't think she is.

1238
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Speaker 1: And we're gonna be like like epitomizing the Cinderella story.

1239
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 3: You're saying, yeah, we're gonna break this deck because I'm

1240
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 3: sort of talking about different things. He're not just like,

1241
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 3: you know, would you make it with Ario? I'm getting

1242
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 3: into like and we'll get into that, uh not what

1243
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 3: she's on land Bro different scenario. She does seem she

1244
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 3: probably wouldn't need some strong SPF, though, is the impression

1245
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 3: I yet? Yeah? I think Ariel would probably burn he's past.

1246
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 3: She kind of burned easily. She got the red hair too.

1247
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 3: Adversity overcome by each princess, like how much do they overcome?

1248
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 3: How much do they have to come with their we'll

1249
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 3: call it the CSD the curse slash spelled difficulty? Okay,

1250
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 3: Like what's that rating? And then their dirty work index?

1251
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 3: Were they really doing the dirty work? Or were they

1252
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 3: in a castle singing? You know what I mean? It's

1253
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 3: not to the phone lines? It away CAMBYR. Jennifer is

1254
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 3: in Oakland. Jennifer's got a thought on the princesses on

1255
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Speaker 3: dirty work? Jennifer, what's up? You're on the sports Leader?

1256
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Speaker 9: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call.

1257
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Speaker 3: Jennifer. What's up?

1258
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 8: Well?

1259
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 10: I mean, you know how that I have the opportunity

1260
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 10: to showcase my encyclopaedic knowledge and Disney princess n what

1261
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 10: you got in general with my favorite sports talker or

1262
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 10: so I couldn't pass it?

1263
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Speaker 1: What part of the film?

1264
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you got for us to answer your question?

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00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 10: The reason why Cinderella is the gold standard for Cinderella

1266
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Speaker 10: teams and a sports analogy is because she's one of

1267
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Speaker 10: the only rags to riches princesses.

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Speaker 9: In the iconography.

1269
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 10: True, so essentially everybody else is a princess who is

1270
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Speaker 10: then restored to what is owed to her. She's born

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Speaker 10: a princess, where Cinderella is a slave in her own

1272
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Speaker 10: house because she's orphaned and then becomes a princess. But

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Speaker 10: there are two other princesses I would like to offer

1274
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Speaker 10: you that I think qualified.

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00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 3: Please do because I want to like to counter with

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00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 3: if you don't name her, So we'll go with Cinderella

1277
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 3: to start. You're saying gold standard rags to riches. I

1278
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 3: do have a counter on that, but go ahead.

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Speaker 9: Okay.

1280
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 10: So I would say Princess Tiana because she's also poor

1281
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 10: and it becomes a princess and works for it. But

1282
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Speaker 10: I think Mulan offers the opportunity, yes, because she becomes

1283
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 10: a literal warrior after being a civilian and then is

1284
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 10: elevated to empress.

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Speaker 9: And I think that's probably the best.

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Speaker 3: Okay, now I'm just a heard of my book. Dude,

1287
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Speaker 3: you nailed it. That's where I am number one princess.

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00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 3: I'm going I'm going Mulan. It's funny you said Tiana,

1289
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 3: because I've got Tiana number two on my list for

1290
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 3: the exact reason you mentioned. I mean, she went poverty

1291
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 3: to business owner and she got turned I mean getting

1292
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 3: turned into a frog top that adversity, you know what

1293
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 3: I mean. I mean that's a pretty high index. She

1294
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 3: I mean, she's pretty high on the gold standard for

1295
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 3: the dirty work index. But when you're talking Mulan having

1296
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 3: to defeat the Huns, saving China while hiding her identity

1297
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 3: while dishonor looms, yes, I mean she's she's down the

1298
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 3: number one of the dragon exactly. The training for war infiltration,

1299
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 3: the blue collar trench work, you can't top Mulan in

1300
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 3: my mind, absolutely.

1301
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 10: So I do think that the you know, the term

1302
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 10: Cinderella story is probably more ubiquitous, but again that's because

1303
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 10: we adopt from Western culture rather than Eastern culture. But

1304
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 10: you know, it was always opportunity to change that. So also,

1305
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 10: the reason Cinderella shoes don't disappear is because they are

1306
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 10: magic pulled out of cinner where everything else is something

1307
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 10: raggedy that's converted to something fantastic, which is why they

1308
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 10: go back.

1309
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 3: It's a kind, it's a kind to Dorothy's her slippers

1310
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 3: at the end, right, I mean they make they make

1311
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 3: it back from from what might have been a dream. Okay.

1312
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 3: The one thing I would say to counter the Cinderella,

1313
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 3: I would see, I don't have her at the top.

1314
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 3: I've got Mulan there, I've got Siana there. You know what,

1315
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 3: I've even got a buffer. I've got to go Bell,

1316
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 3: because I know you said true rags to riches. I

1317
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 3: mean Belle voluntarily in prison to save her father's life.

1318
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: She's not a princess's start.

1319
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 3: She's not a princess's start either.

1320
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 9: Jeffer True, I would agree with that. And you know

1321
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 9: I like that she reads.

1322
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 8: I don't.

1323
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: I don't know that.

1324
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 3: Jennifer are the best call anytime. She absolutely forget appreciated. Yeah,

1325
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 3: no time for Gastondie. She's not more that's upsetting. It's Belle, dude,

1326
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,479
Speaker 3: from the I mean, she's reading books. She's flying around

1327
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 3: on that ladder trying to get books on the top shelf.

1328
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 1: So I have her in the top three. So I'll

1329
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: got Bell top three. I'll give you my list real quick.

1330
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 5: I got Mulan number one for the exact reasons that

1331
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 5: Jennifer just so it's tough to be dude. I gotta

1332
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,760
Speaker 5: go snow white because yes, okay, she started as a princess.

1333
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 3: Correct, uh, yeah, I was she a princess or was she?

1334
00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 8: Well?

1335
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 3: I can't remember how she gets put to sleep by

1336
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 3: the apple. Yes she got I thought she had. I

1337
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 3: thought she wasn't. I thought she was like a I

1338
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 3: didn't think she was a princess. She's I mean, I'll

1339
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 3: give her like a legacy pick.

1340
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 5: But but she comes back from the dead basically and

1341
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 5: has to deal with seven dwarfs and all and that

1342
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 5: whole scenario. So she's number two on my list. I

1343
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 5: had to go Bell three because she's not a princess

1344
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 5: to start. She has to deal with the beast and

1345
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 5: the talking clock and guest or guest on and who's.

1346
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 3: The uh talking clock? Don't forget about ship, dude, he's

1347
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 3: out there ship and lumineer the uh the candlestick yes,

1348
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 3: the guest the French candlesticks yes uh.

1349
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 5: And she has to, you know, basically make it with

1350
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 5: the beast and learn how to love him and then

1351
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 5: in the end he becomes a normal person.

1352
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 3: But I think I think Belle is like she's a value,

1353
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 3: Like if you get Bell like where you could get

1354
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson, or you get her in like the middle

1355
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 3: rounds Like she's I think she's a steal of a pick, dude.

1356
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 3: I would those she stands up to the beast. She's

1357
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 3: more like emotionally resilient. Yeah, you know what I mean.

1358
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 3: Like she's not it's not it's not a big power play,

1359
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 3: but she helps break that curse through compassion. Yes, which

1360
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 3: is is something that can't be lost on.

1361
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: Agree with all that. Okay, number four, I have Pocahontas.

1362
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 5: Does it start a princess either, And she's got to

1363
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 5: deal with obviously everything going on mel Gibson telling her

1364
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 5: what to do.

1365
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 3: You gotta deal with Gibson.

1366
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 5: That's anversity, dude, Yeah, it's it's the most tolerant I've

1367
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 5: ever seen mel Gibson in a movie.

1368
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 3: See, she's got guidance through. She got grandmother Willow out

1369
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 3: there in the tree telling her what listen with your heart.

1370
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 3: You won't understand.

1371
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: She's the power of the wind.

1372
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 3: Let's go out to Shanna Shanas in Los Gatto. Seana's

1373
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 3: got a thought on on Cinderella. Seana, you're on the

1374
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 3: sports theater. Where does Cinderella rank in the lore that

1375
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 3: is Disney princesses.

1376
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 9: You guys, this is one of the most hard hitting

1377
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 9: conversations I have ever heard on K and B R

1378
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 9: nineteen ninety two. I couldn't help but call in. So

1379
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 9: Cinderella has the world's worst stepmother in the world. She's

1380
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 9: constantly abused by humans, right, I get it. Like the

1381
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 9: girls who got the Seven Dwarfs, they kind of like

1382
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 9: her and Lumier in you know, bell, like they're fun.

1383
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 9: She's got like a fun f French guy around. She

1384
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 9: falls in love. Like Cinderella is constantly being you know,

1385
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 9: spad on, and she's actually doing dirty work every day.

1386
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 9: She's on hands and knees, she's cleaning things up. And

1387
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 9: then I just have to imagine it would be so

1388
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 9: psychologically debilitating to have this random woman turn your pumpkin

1389
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 9: into a whatever glass thing. You've got this whole night

1390
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 9: that you think happened, but then maybe it didn't really happen,

1391
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 9: and nobody believes you, and like you're living in this

1392
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 9: constant state of was that even real or not? And

1393
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 9: I just think psychologically she had the most to overcome.

1394
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 9: I think Mulan still ranks up there. Obviously she did

1395
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 9: the most dirty work, but like the lan story doesn't

1396
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 9: roll off the tongue the way Cinderella story does.

1397
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 8: Right.

1398
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 9: Yeah, And one other thing is, I know we're not

1399
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 9: like comparing it to athletes, but when I think about Cinderella,

1400
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 9: I do think about Sir Jimmy Butler and just everything

1401
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 9: he had to overcome, and I like bring them like

1402
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 9: Jimmy is my Cinderella. When I think about it, I.

1403
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 3: Give you a Patrick Willis too. I do like a

1404
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 3: p Willis on a gradual Just here, here's the thing.

1405
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: I think what you you just kind of.

1406
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 3: Brought it home a little bit because we're talking about

1407
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 3: like the Disney lore of it. But Cinderella relatable in

1408
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 3: the fact that she's not like a magical curse. He's

1409
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 3: trapped in life, you know what I mean? Seana, Oh,

1410
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 3: this is real stuff.

1411
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,280
Speaker 9: Really out there, guys. All of these princesses are relatable

1412
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 9: to the majority of women today. Like one of these

1413
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 9: gals has had it handed to her in one way

1414
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 9: or the other. Ariels Ant took her voice and her

1415
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 9: boyfriend her aunt.

1416
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 3: Dude, Yeah that's true, Yeah she did.

1417
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: She took her voice and her boyfriend Ursula's her aunt. Yeah, dude,

1418
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: Ursula's out here messing around.

1419
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 3: Man, a lot of Jesus see.

1420
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 9: The original you know Aerial Story. Until I was thirty

1421
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 9: and I watched the movie. When they did the remake,

1422
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 9: I was like, this is horrific. And we're showing these

1423
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 9: things the six year old girls. This is no wonder.

1424
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 9: I was kind of sketched out by my aunt when

1425
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 9: I was younger.

1426
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 3: You one more real life. When I said this to

1427
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 3: Derek earlier, Rapunzel just gas lit her entire life into oblivion. Yeah,

1428
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

1429
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 9: I know these girls. I really it's really good work

1430
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 9: what you're doing today bringing this to the forefront. I

1431
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 9: really appreciate it, and I.

1432
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 3: Appreciate you calling. Thanks so much. I love that we've

1433
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 3: I love that we've hit the Van Diagram of dirty

1434
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 3: work and and uh and like Disney the Princess Lord,

1435
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 3: because again, this isn't just about like, yeah, she's a babe,

1436
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 3: I'm talking. And here's where I think, like, if we're

1437
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 3: going draft pick, I got nothing wrong with anything, because

1438
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 3: Cinderella makes my list. Yeah, looking American? Everything she said

1439
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 3: absolutely true. Dude. Being abused emotionally by by family members

1440
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 3: by this this horrific stepmother, which, by the way, that

1441
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,919
Speaker 3: great stuff. I love my Mama, Suzi. Step Mom's gonna

1442
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 3: get a rough get a rough rap because of some

1443
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 3: of these these Disney prints they do. They do so

1444
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 3: of women who love Dalmatians. But that's a whole nother story.

1445
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 3: That's a whole different deal. I think what I would

1446
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 3: say is like Cinderella, when I'm looking for like high

1447
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 3: character for my organization, like she offers like elite character

1448
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 3: but limited upside. I would say that, like she's a

1449
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 3: bit more passive.

1450
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: Well, she's the originator of this whole thing. So I

1451
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: I think you have to put her on the list.

1452
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 3: She has to make a list.

1453
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: She's top five.

1454
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 3: Snow White, she said, snow and I'm going legacy pitch

1455
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 3: for he do you know what, Snowy may be too high.

1456
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 3: I Am just got to think about it. Like I'm

1457
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 3: putting her on my like you know, like like Clayton

1458
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 3: Kersha just gets to make the All Star team. Yeah,

1459
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 3: I'm just putting her on like that.

1460
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's there.

1461
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 3: She's gonna retire the withered veteran. That's while she trusts

1462
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 3: a random old woman with food. That's not that's not smart.

1463
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: The deal with these seven guys all the time.

1464
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 3: A random old woman. Eat this lady, it'll be delicious.

1465
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 3: She goes down early, by the way she does. Said,

1466
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 3: that's a red flag, an injury red flag for me. Yeah,

1467
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 3: not early snow like those down Yeah, not good. Let's

1468
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 3: go back down to the phone line. It's go to

1469
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 3: Mario Mario's and Hollister. We'll stalk underdogs. Mario here on

1470
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:18,479
Speaker 3: the Sports Leader.

1471
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 8: Hey, guys, how you doing. Enjoy the show, and I

1472
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 8: enjoy your candor way and your take on most things.

1473
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 8: My Cinderella story is the dance, and you guys probably

1474
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 8: remember it because you've got great knowledge. As Radis used

1475
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 8: to say, you remember when Santa Clara was a sixteenth

1476
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 8: seed and they beat U of A, which is number

1477
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 8: one seed, and I believe they had the Ogden brothers

1478
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 8: and they just hit a bunch of threes.

1479
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 3: I don't remember that. I don't think it was a

1480
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 3: sixteen one though, was it. You're talking nineteen ninety three.

1481
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 8: Right right, It wasn't six Okay, the first sixteen one.

1482
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 3: Was just a four years ago, but it was it was.

1483
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 3: I'm trying to find the seeding here that was a

1484
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 3: major upset. That was in Salt Lake. Yeah, sixty four

1485
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 3: to sixty one. Santa Clara upsets upsets Arizona. I'm trying

1486
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 3: to see who's on this Arizona team too. Yeah, Chris

1487
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 3: Mills was on this Arizona team.

1488
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 8: How about that wasn't on that team.

1489
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 3: Kenny Laughton was not on that Arizona team. He played

1490
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 3: with Tom Damon Stottamar was on that team. And on

1491
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,919
Speaker 3: Santa Clara. You know they featured Steve Nash played thirty

1492
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 3: minutes in that game, of course off the bench. Didn't

1493
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 3: have a big day though, one of seven from the

1494
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 3: field for Steve Nash. We do you got to run.

1495
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 3: I appreciate the call, Mario colin It. Yeah, there's a

1496
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 3: big upset. I do have to shout out one more

1497
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 3: because we were talking the best Cinderella teams in Bayria

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Speaker 3: sports history, our guy Todd Hustat checked and of course

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Speaker 3: he did. This is a great one. Todd, Props to

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Speaker 3: you man, you're the man. Nineteen ninety nine Stanford Cardinal Football. Okay,

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Speaker 3: they were picked. Remember there was ten teams in the pack.

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Speaker 6: Ten.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I used to actually have the number of teams

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Speaker 3: that associated the number to the conference. Like the Big

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Speaker 3: Ten had ten teams who'd have thought, yeah, now, what

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Speaker 3: is it? There's twenty seventeen ninety nine Cardinal were finished,

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Speaker 3: picked to finish tenth in the Pac Ten. They lost

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Speaker 3: their opener by fifty two to who they went to,

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Speaker 3: their first Rose Bull in thirty years.

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Speaker 1: Oh nice.

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Speaker 3: I didn't looking at who they lost to, but Hughesac

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Speaker 3: shout him out.

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Speaker 1: Dude, good rebound those to a Rose Bull.

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Speaker 3: Adam Copeland deep pop and I got Dan done with you.

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Speaker 3: We got plenty to get to. Danny's double dips is

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Speaker 3: coming up. Plus we get you and update on what's

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Speaker 3: going on across March Madness. Also, we got plenty more

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Speaker 3: to get into in terms of your picks for the top. Well,

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Speaker 3: we're going princesses.

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Speaker 1: The princess that epitomizes really the Cinderella story.

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Speaker 3: I'm going, like again, I gotta go, I gotta go

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Speaker 3: Mula number one with you because she she fights the

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Speaker 3: hardest man. She fights the hardest for it.

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Speaker 1: She has to become a man to get respect.

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Speaker 3: I love that, my girls. Tiana's getting love because she

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Speaker 3: is a dog again. Poverty to a business owner overcomes

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Speaker 3: the adversity of the frog one.

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Speaker 1: Of the absolute. I have not seen that, but I'll

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Speaker 1: take your word for it.

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Speaker 3: But Princess the Frog, you know also, but Tim hasn't

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Speaker 3: seen it either. Get a couple, we didn't even mention it.

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Speaker 6: A couple.

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Speaker 3: We didn't even mention like when we were in high

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Speaker 3: school maybe or a little before. We haven't talked much

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Speaker 3: about Jasmine and Ariel. Seanna did bring up Aerial. We

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Speaker 3: gotta get into them too.

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Speaker 1: She has really good through a lot of diversities.

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Speaker 3: Jasmine was more of the I would say, she's more

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Speaker 3: of like the the steph or the Clay like there.

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Speaker 3: She was born into you you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: She's the nepo princess.

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Speaker 3: I mean, really, the the rags to riches. Here's our

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Speaker 3: guy Aladdin. Well, yeah, I don't know, man, Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 3: she's got to overcome Jafar.

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Speaker 1: He's the male Cinderella.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, Jasmin's tough, She's got pet tiger.

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Speaker 3: We gotta get into this more. Anyway, cam Yard, A

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Speaker 3: lot of people have checked in on the Golden State

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Speaker 3: Lumber and Showgroom touch line. I will get to your

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Speaker 3: thoughts on the rankings, but a lot of Mulan, a

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Speaker 3: lot of Tiana and not as much Cinderella. So I'm

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Speaker 3: with my girl Shawna being like she's she's trapped in

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Speaker 3: lives on the list. We've got plenty more to come.

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Speaker 3: Dirty Work rolls on on a Thursday on The Princess Leader.