1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Welcome into the install with Greg co Cell of NFL Films. 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: We got conference championships on the horizon. We've got a 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: few head coaching hires that have been named Greg. One 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: such hire that we expect to be announced officially by 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: the team later this afternoon, but has of course already 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: been reported on. Is Robert Salak going to be the 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: next head coach of the Tennessee Titans. And there's a 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: couple of different layers to that. But of course, the 9 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: thing that you have been talking about on this podcast, 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: and I'm sure in other places as well these past 11 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: few weeks, is that everything that this organization does moving 12 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: forward has to be done in service of cam Ward. 13 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: Robert sala is an interesting figure here, and of course 14 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: we're awaiting staff hires to really determine how much sense 15 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: this is gonna make. 16 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's really hard to know. Look, people, I'm 17 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: sure you've been probably been talking about it all week 18 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 2: on your radio show, and I'm sure there's been varying opinions. 19 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: I'm sure some people think it's good, some people probably 20 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: think it's horrible. That's just the nature of fandom, you know, 21 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: it's almost impossible to know, have to really know Robert Sala. Obviously, 22 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 2: when coaches interview to become a head coach, they make 23 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: a lengthy presentation about how they see the entire organization, 24 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 2: beginning with everything basically, but obviously the nature of the 25 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: coaching staff is a big deal. How they go about 26 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: dealing with the quarterback, and particularly a young quarterback, that 27 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: becomes a big deal. So obviously he checked all those boxes. 28 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: We're not in those meetings, so I'm not going to 29 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: sit here and say it's good or bad because we 30 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 2: don't know that Robert. I can tell you as a coach, 31 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: as a defensive coach, because that's what we know for 32 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 2: the most part about Sala. Yes, he was a head coach, 33 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: you know, briefly before, but as a defensive coach, he's 34 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: highly respected. He's thought of to be very very good. 35 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: You know, as a head coach, he was put in 36 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: a tough spot with the Jets. His defense there was 37 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: very good and he called it and offensively, they really 38 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: didn't have a quarterback, so it becomes hard to really 39 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: gauge that. And he's not the one who's putting the 40 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: offense together anyway, So you know, it's there's been a 41 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 2: lot of coaches, by the way, you've not done well 42 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: in their first time around and done better their second 43 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 2: time around. Whether that happens here, no one knows, but 44 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 2: I think it's it's a little early to make any 45 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: judgment good or bad. Obviously, they went through the process 46 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: and they felt he checked all the boxes. Now we 47 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: have to wait and see, but there's no question that 48 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator and the quarterback coach are absolutely critical 49 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: to what goes on going forward. 50 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, just a quick clarification, Greg, it's it's our understanding 51 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: that he did not call the defense in New York, 52 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: but his plan is to call the defense. 53 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: Oh right, you're right. They had, I believe, Yeah, they had. 54 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: That's right. 55 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: The defensive coordinator who's now in Atlanta obviously, Yeah. 56 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 2: And who did a good job this past year in Atlanta. Actually, 57 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: so right, you're right, he did not call the defense. 58 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: But and I don't know if we call the defense here. 59 00:02:58,800 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: Has that been talked about? 60 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was reported by Mike Garriffalo of the NFL 61 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: Network that his intention is to call the defense as 62 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: the Titans head coach. 63 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 2: Well, if that's the case, then that makes the OC 64 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: and the quarterback coach even more important because during the week, 65 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,839 Speaker 2: while he's not going to be unaware of what they're 66 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 2: doing offensively, he's got to put together a whole defensive 67 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 2: game plan and spend all that time with the defense. 68 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: So it's almost as if you have a separate deal. 69 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: You have a head coach who's the defensive coach, and 70 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: then you're going to have an offensive coordinator and a 71 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: quarterback coach and you know and others. They're not the 72 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: only two offensive coaches obviously, but you know that's essentially 73 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: what it's going to be. So it makes that higher 74 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: really important because the offensive coordinator is pretty much going 75 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: to run the show on offense. 76 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of the inverse of what we had 77 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: here previously with Brian Callahan and Denard Wilson. So we 78 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: will see what becomes of Robert Sala and we await 79 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: the again. They're going to announce him later today as 80 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: we take this on a Thursday morning on a press 81 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: conference is scheduled for next week, is my understanding. So 82 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: the other domino to your point, is the offensive coordinator. Obviously, 83 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: there are many other staff fires to be made anytime 84 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,839 Speaker 1: you have a new head coach in place. The thing 85 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: that we are waiting on here in Tennessee that may 86 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: you know, maybe by the time you hear this podcast, 87 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: a decision has been made one way or the other. 88 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: Brian day Ball is interviewing to be the head coach 89 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. Diana Russini, our friend at the Athletic, 90 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: reported that if Brian day Ball does not get the 91 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: head coach job for the Bills, which is his preference, 92 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: they the expectation is that he would be the offensive 93 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: coordinator in Tennessee. So just generally, the idea of a 94 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: Brian day Ball cam Ward marriage Greg strikes you. 95 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: How Again, none of us know personality, so I can't 96 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 2: speak to that, and I don't know Brian Daball. I 97 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: once reached out to him and he actually got back 98 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: to me in ten minutes and said he loved my work. 99 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 2: So I mean, but I don't know him personally, you know, 100 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 2: and I'd like to get to know him. But the 101 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 2: point is is maybe you. 102 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: Can at the instant or training camp or something like that. 103 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,559 Speaker 2: There you go, there you go. But the bottom line 104 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: is that he is viewed as the one who really 105 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: got Josh Allen's career on the right track. What he 106 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 2: did offensively with Alan I liked, and I think since 107 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: he left that past game has not been what it 108 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: was with you know, when he was there. Now, obviously 109 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 2: Josh Allen, I think cam Ward is probably similar in 110 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 2: this regard. They're both by nature aggressive throwers. Now what 111 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: they've done in Buffalo is they really channeled Alan and 112 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 2: kind of reduced him to where he's not an aggressive thrower. 113 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 2: And and it's you know, they've still made the playoffs 114 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: and it's worked, and he was an MVP under you know, 115 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 2: Joe Brady, and but I think they're both aggressive by nature. 116 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 2: And Dable's past game with Josh was very much intermediate 117 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 2: and vertical because Josh Allen can make those throws, as 118 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 2: can cam Ward. So you know, just from again looking 119 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: at it from a thirty thousand foot view, I think 120 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: that Dable stylistically and I think what he believes philosophically 121 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: about the pass game. And it's hard to know with 122 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: the Giants because he just didn't have people nor an 123 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: offensive line, by the way, which is another factor. Hard 124 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: to have a pass game when your offensive line can't protect. 125 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 2: I personally like aggressive coaches who want to push the 126 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 2: ball down the field, you know, Ben Johnson's like that, 127 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,239 Speaker 2: you know, I you know, that's just a personal flavor. 128 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: I like that. So I think that he'd be good 129 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: for cam Ward if it were to turn out to 130 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: be the case. 131 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: And what we do know about it, one way or 132 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: the other is that they were very interested in cam 133 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: Ward in New York. That was the team that was 134 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: most interested in trading up with the Titans in last 135 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: year's draft. Ultimately, Tennessee opted to pass on the on 136 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: the draft picks that were being offered by the Giants 137 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: and take cam Warden said, So maybe it'll all come 138 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: full circle. 139 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: We'll see, We'll see what happens. 140 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: The other coaching hire that I want to ask you 141 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: about before we talk about conference championship weekend, Greg, I've 142 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: been trying to talk about this Indiana National championship on 143 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: the radio all week. They won't let me for some 144 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: reason because of all the different coaching hire stuff that's 145 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: going on. I can't possibly understand why they'd be more 146 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: interested in that than Indianamal whatever. It's personal preference, I guess. 147 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: And you were there. That must have been a lot 148 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: of fun. 149 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: It was a hell of a time. I have a 150 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: new found I have a lot of love for Fernando 151 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: Mendoza to begin with, but that you know, that solidified 152 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: it for a variety of different reasons, right right, But 153 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: quickly before we do talk about conference championships in the NFL, 154 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: Greg Mike McDaniel, with Justin Herbert going to Los Angeles, 155 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: the former Dolphins coach. We understand that, you know, maybe 156 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: if Justin Herbert has a better performance, Greg Roman still 157 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: the OC there, but that's not what ended up happening, 158 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: and the Chargers start an OC search that ends up 159 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: with Mike McDaniel. What do you like about the fit 160 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: between the player and the coach there? 161 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: Well as people have probably seen on social media because 162 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: it was there last week and you know, still out there. 163 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: I've been around Mike McDaniel. The people can see that. 164 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: You know, he was talking and I'm sitting next to him, 165 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: so you know, I've been around Mike McDaniel. 166 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: What was that clip from? I meant I've been meaning 167 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: to ask you about that. I'm glad you brought it up. 168 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was his I don't know if it's still 169 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: his agent, but his agent at the time was Richmond Flowers, 170 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: who's a well known coaches agent and he invited me 171 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: to an event that was on the West coast. It 172 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: was a two to three day event and I spent 173 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: a good amount of time with a number of coaches, 174 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel, Brandon Staley, Chris Foster, Frank Smith, trying to 175 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: remember some of the others. There are a lot of 176 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: coaches there, you know, And it was it was a 177 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 2: great event for a couple of days and spent you know, 178 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 2: as people could see, spent time with Mike McDaniel and 179 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 2: had some one on one conversations with him. He's an 180 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: incredibly intelligent human being. You know, he doesn't come across 181 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: as the way people think of football coaches because he's 182 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: very academic and intellectual in the way he speaks. He's 183 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: but he's super smart. Look, the bottom is, he comes 184 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 2: from the Shanahan School, but he's he's not wedded to that, 185 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: like he's not going to automatically go to the Chargers 186 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 2: with Justin Herbert, who was obviously a totally different player 187 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 2: stylistically than Tua or the quarterbacks that were in San 188 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: Francisco when he was there with with Kyle so and 189 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: don't forget I believe he was on he was with 190 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 2: Kyle when Kyle was the OC of the Falcons, when 191 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 2: the Falcons went to the Super Bowl with Matt Ryan. 192 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: So he's been around different kinds of quarterbacks. And I 193 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: think it's a really good hire because he's going to 194 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: bring new ideas and the fact that Harbaugh hired him. 195 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: I'm assuming Harball was actively involved in the hiring. You know, 196 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 2: that's what you'd like to assume that Harbaugh understands that, hey, 197 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 2: maybe we need some new ideas here. And don't forget 198 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: even if you take Keenan Allen out of the equation, 199 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: who knows what Keenan Allen's going to do. He's older. 200 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 2: I don't even know if he'll be on the roster. 201 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: They still have quality wide receivers. The running back Hampton 202 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: was injured this year. But I think with McDaniel there 203 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: that works well. I think it's a good hire. He's 204 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 2: a really good football coach and an incredibly intelligent guy. 205 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: Titans fans were a little disappointed hoping that Mike McDaniel 206 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: would come with Robert Salad to be the offensive coordinator here, 207 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: given their connection previously in San Francisco, but one could 208 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: hardly blame him for looking at the opportunity to coach 209 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert and saying, Okay, that makes a lot of 210 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: sense from that standpoint. This Conference championship weekend is an 211 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: interesting one, Greg, How do you even approach the Denver 212 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: Broncos on the Matchup show? Given the quarterbacks? 213 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: Well, it's funny you say that because Jared's didn't have 214 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 2: been with Sean Payton for three years. He's been there. 215 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: He started two games at the end of the twenty 216 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: twenty three season, and I went through those games and 217 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 2: I'm actually using a play from one of those games 218 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: in the show because it's a concept the thing, it's concepts. 219 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 2: The past game is about concepts. Now, again, we don't 220 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: know what Jared st Didham is going to do. We 221 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: don't know how Sean Payton's going to approach it. My 222 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 2: sense is Sean Payton is not going to try to 223 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: hide Jared Stidham and play the game as if he's, 224 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 2: you know, no good. Now, that doesn't mean he's gonna 225 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: have him drop back forty five times either, but I 226 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: think he's gonna run his offense now quite frankly, he's 227 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: playing against the defense that in the playoffs the Patriots 228 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: have really increased their pressure quot they play a lot 229 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: of man coverage. They probably have way better people than 230 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 2: a lot of people are aware of, you know, But 231 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna play I don't think he's I 232 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 2: don't think Shawn's going to go into this game with 233 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 2: the idea that, you know, we're going to try to 234 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 2: win this game ten to seven. I don't think he's 235 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 2: going to play that way because I don't think that's 236 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 2: his nature, and I don't think I think he believes 237 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: his offensive philosoity. Say what you want about Sean Payton. 238 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: Some people like him, some people don't, but there's no 239 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: question he's an aggressive guy who leaves in what he does. 240 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 2: Someone says he goes too big. That's fine, that's a 241 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: personal thing. But he believes in his system and what 242 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 2: he does. And he's not going to just say, well, 243 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 2: we're going to hand the ball off and we don't 244 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: even know if Dobbins is playing. I guess he theoretically could, 245 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: but I don't think he's going to go in this 246 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: game and say, well, we're just going to hand it 247 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 2: to Dobbins and and McLaughlin and Harvey and that's all 248 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: we're going to do. And hope that you know that 249 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 2: and then punt and hopefully we play field position. I 250 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 2: don't think he's going to do that. 251 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think just because of the nature of him 252 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: making his first start of the season in the postseason, 253 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: people are having a visceral reaction to the idea of, 254 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: oh my god, what are the Broncos going to do? 255 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: But it's worth noting Greg that Jared Stidham is one 256 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: of the highest paid backups in the league. To your point, 257 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: Sean Payton obviously values him and his skill set. 258 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 2: Been there for three years. He knows the system. 259 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: You know. 260 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: Again, that's different from playing in the game. I don't 261 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: want what I'm saying for people to think he's going 262 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: to come out here and go, you know, twenty five 263 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: for thirty five for four hundred and five touchdowns. That's 264 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 2: not my point. But my point is you're not dealing 265 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: with a guy that doesn't understand the Peytent system and 266 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 2: how to run it. Now, obviously, running it in a 267 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: meeting or on an iPad is different than running it 268 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: in a game. But he knows it, so, you know, 269 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 2: the big The bigger issue to me, and I'm very curious, 270 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 2: is you know, obviously I've watched Denver all year. There 271 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: were good team, so I've probably watched every one of 272 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 2: their games. You know, they've had a really good defense, 273 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 2: and they led the league in sacks. They have a 274 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 2: really good defense. They've got good people, and their defense 275 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 2: gave up thirty points last week, you know, to a 276 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: quarterback apparently, from what I'm seeing all through this week 277 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 2: in social media, is one of the worst quarterbacks in 278 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 2: the league. But they gave up thirty points to Josh Allen. 279 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 2: You know, and in fact, you know this is you know, 280 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: you know, you're in the sports talk radio business, and 281 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 2: you get it. The conversations this week about that, this 282 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: is where people, you know, it's just show how stupid 283 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 2: they are in this conversation. I mean, they might as 284 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 2: well just wear signs on their head that's say I'm 285 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: an idiot. You know, it's it's so, you know, the 286 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: guy put up thirty points, Now did he turn it over? Sure? 287 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 2: And then the one at the end of the half 288 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: was egregious and truly stupid. But you know, keep in 289 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: mind the week before Josh Allen did the same thing, 290 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 2: and then his defense had an interception late in the game. 291 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: What happened what would have happened if the Bills defense 292 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: stopped the Broncos on that you know, that final drive 293 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: that ended up being a touchdown. What would we be saying? 294 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: You know, so these conversations are ironic. But anyway, getting 295 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: back to Denver, their defense was not very good last 296 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 2: week and we'll see, you know how it happens to So. 297 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: I think the whole Will Campbell thing had left tackles 298 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: a big deal. He has not been very good in 299 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: his last number of games, and in fact, they have 300 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: had to help him because he can't block these guys. 301 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: He wasn't able to block mac and Oway, he wasn't 302 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 2: able to block Hunter or Anderson, and now he gets 303 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: Nick Bonito predominantly. But Cooper will line up there every 304 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 2: once in a while. 305 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, to your point about the Denver defense, sixty eight 306 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: sacks in the regular season, they are excellent by any 307 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: stretch of the imagination at every level of that defense. 308 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: And we will see how Drake may manages the situation 309 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: because I, you know, Greg, the Patriots game against the Texans, 310 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what that looks like if C. J. 311 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: Stroud just plays it an even replacement level game. He 312 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: had such a hard time in the post. 313 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: What's going on with him? It's funny. Joe Flacco's in 314 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: our building today and I've known Joe for years and 315 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 2: I was talking to him, you know, for ten minutes, 316 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: and we were talking about c. J. Stroud and he 317 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: was just saying, you know, because obviously he's played the 318 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: position for a long time, you know, and he just said, 319 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: you know, when you don't see things, it's just you know, 320 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: he said, everything's a blur to him. And he said, 321 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 2: it's just everything's a blur. You can't play. And you 322 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: can tell his mental and physical processes are they're going 323 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: one thousand miles per hour. And I thought Troy Aikman 324 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 2: han really professionally and well on the telecast when he said, 325 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 2: you know, they've got to figure this out. He's not 326 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 2: the same quarterback he was as a rookie, and somewhere 327 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 2: you've got to figure it out. That doesn't mean we 328 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 2: get to the right answer. Maybe this is who he is. 329 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: We don't know, but everything is just happening so fast 330 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: to him. And I thought the word blur that Joe 331 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: Flacco used was great because that's what it is. It's 332 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: a blur. 333 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: Well, and you and you and other people who do 334 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: what you do. Greg have talked about this many times, 335 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: just the idea of how how much more difficult it 336 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: is to play that position when you're playing so so 337 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: sped up for lack of a better Yeah, and that 338 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: feels like what we're seeing from CJ. Stroud at this 339 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: point in time. They do. You know, this is not 340 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: necessarily for our conversation, but they do have the luxury 341 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: of a fifth year option to kind of play it 342 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: out a little bit with c J. Stroud, though that 343 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: has to be weighing heavily again. 344 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I doubt that they're getting rid of him, 345 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: and I assume he'll be their quarterback next year, but 346 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: it's if the season starts off in a similar fashion, 347 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 2: they would have a major decision to make. 348 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: Here. On the other side of things, in the NFC, 349 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: we will see the NFC West continue to rule the roost. 350 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: It's just an awesome division. I don't blame anybody for 351 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: not necessarily jumping at the opportunity to be the Arizona 352 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: Cardinals head coach, because my god, that division is tough 353 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: top to bottom at this point in time. So it'll 354 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: be the Rams and the Seahawks Mike McDonald with fourteen 355 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: wins during the regular season this year, a single season 356 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: franchise record for Seattle. An excellent defensive play caller Greg 357 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: we knew this somebody who's really balancing that head coach 358 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: and play calling line very very well. 359 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: You know that defense, you know, in some ways, in 360 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 2: some ways by NFL standards, it's not overly complex. Now again, 361 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 2: I hate using that term because there's always little things 362 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 2: that I can't possibly know even watching tape because I'm 363 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 2: not in their meetings. But you know, they're basically play 364 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 2: out of a two shell even their pressures, so a 365 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: lot of their pressures they still play with two shell 366 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: behind it. And I'll tell you what, those two interior guys, 367 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 2: Murphy and Williams, they are so hard to block. I mean, 368 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 2: they are dominant in the run game, and that's a 369 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 2: big deal. Although the Rams in the two games against 370 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 2: them Week eleven, week sixteen, actually ran the ball well, 371 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: and that's an overlooked element of the Rams. They run 372 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 2: the ball pretty well. Now it neither back is explosive, 373 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 2: so you don't see those thirty yard runs where you go, wow, 374 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 2: that's an unbelievable run. The Rams backs are more like 375 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: the eight to nine yard grinded out, sustaining guys. But 376 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 2: you know, I think they ran for something like one 377 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty and one hundred and fifty yards against 378 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 2: the Seahawks and the two games that they played. In fact, 379 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 2: in the second game, I think the Rams might have 380 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 2: put up like five hundred yards of offense, you know, 381 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 2: some ridiculous number, because I think Stafford might have thrown 382 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 2: for over four hundred by himself. So you know, they've 383 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: shown the ability to move the ball. I think with 384 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 2: the Rams, what you don't know is are they going 385 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 2: to be heavy thirteen? Are they going to be how 386 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: much twelve personnel? And by thirteen for people don't know, 387 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 2: I mean three tight ends, they're going to be heavy 388 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 2: eleven personnel with three wide You almost don't know with 389 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 2: what mcveigh's done in recent weeks. But this is a 390 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: really good defense that Seattle has. And then on the 391 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: other side, you know, in some ways, I was kind 392 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 2: of surprised at how well that defense played in Chicago. 393 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 2: I mean, because I view their corners as definitely beatable. 394 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 2: But the reality is the Bears only really scored one touchdown. 395 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 2: I mean that last play I mean, obviously it's an 396 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 2: unbelievable play by Williams, but they you know, it was 397 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 2: just throwing it up in a Hal Mary type throw. 398 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 2: But they only gave up the one real touchdown in 399 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 2: that game, so their defense really played well and even 400 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 2: on the back end. So it's this is a fascinating matchup. 401 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 2: I mean, I hope it plays out the way we 402 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: all feel it's going to play out, but you know, 403 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 2: you never know until you until they play it well. 404 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: And I wonder of how you viewed Matt Stafford these 405 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: last few games in the postseason, Greg, because he's you know, 406 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: obviously he's a front runner for MVP this year. He 407 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: led the league in passing and with touchdown passes. Diana 408 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: I brought up the Diana Receiver was on the radio 409 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 1: show earlier this week, and she said, talking about these games, 410 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: the idea that Matt Stafford hasn't necessarily put the cape 411 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: on in these games quite as much as you might 412 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: expect him to do, which is not necessarily you know, 413 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: the kind of analysis that you approached these games with. 414 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: But I wonder what you've made of his performances so far. 415 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, and again no knocking Diana Rassini. I know, Anna, 416 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 2: she's wonderful, but she's not the only one talking like that. 417 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 2: That's like the same conversation with Josh Allen. I mean, 418 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 2: you know that conversation doesn't mean anything to me. It's 419 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 2: a team game. Stafford, in a game with not great conditions, 420 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 2: did not turn the ball over. You know, it was 421 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 2: not likely that that game was going to be you know, 422 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 2: forty two thirty five, so he didn't turn it over. 423 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 2: He missed some throws that I know he would love 424 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 2: to have back, but you know he also made someone 425 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 2: when it was necessary. I think each game plays out 426 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 2: the way each game plays out. I mean, you can't 427 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 2: you know when Sean McVay is putting his game plan together, 428 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: and certainly against this defense, he's not sitting there with 429 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: his coaching staff saying, you know what, Matthew's got to 430 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 2: wear the cape this week. You know that's that's no 431 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 2: knocking anybody, but that's media bs talk. That's not the 432 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 2: way coaches are seeing it. You know, they're gonna put 433 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: together a plan. They know Stafford's a great player and 434 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 2: can make any throw at any time, but they're not 435 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 2: thinking in terms of oh Man Matthew's gonna you know, 436 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 2: he's gonna have to have the cape on or we 437 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 2: can't win. That's not the way they're thinking about it. 438 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 2: You know, no team thinks about it like that. You 439 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: put together your plan and hey, do you know your 440 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 2: quarterback is gonna have to make some throws? Of course, 441 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 2: you know that he's a quarterback. He's gonna have to 442 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 2: make some throws. But you know, let's see how the 443 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 2: game plays out. You know, it's very possible this game 444 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 2: could play out and be a seventeenth thirteen game. You know, 445 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: it's you don't know how it's gonna. Look, look what's 446 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 2: happening with Donald in the playoffs, and I know there's 447 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 2: people waiting for Donald to throw three picks and blow 448 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 2: and be bad. Could that happen, of course it could. 449 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 2: But you know, Seattle's not looking for Donald to drop 450 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 2: back forty five times. They're looking for Donald to do 451 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: what happened last week he was twelve for seventeen or 452 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 2: the week before, well not the week before, but the 453 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 2: week they played San Francisco to wrap up the season, 454 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: when I think he threw like twenty balls. They would 455 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: love the game to play out like that, not because 456 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 2: they don't want Donald to throw it. But that means 457 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: they're controlling the pace and tempo of the game and 458 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 2: playing the game they want it to be played out 459 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: as Yeah. 460 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: No, I think just from like me having a case 461 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: of media brain sometimes as well, we talk in terms 462 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: of storylines are in media versus football. 463 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 2: Coaches talk about this, Yeah, everybody is a narrative. Yeah, 464 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 2: you know, so and and and you know, people including yourself, 465 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 2: are really good talking. You know, there's so many people 466 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: obviously who talk football now, some being better than others, 467 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 2: and you know, and there's a lot of people who 468 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 2: are really good in the way they talk, but the 469 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 2: way they talk, while it sounds great, is kind of 470 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 2: removed from the reality of what the way coaches really deal. 471 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,239 Speaker 1: With things' It's that's why those conversations with not just 472 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: you know, the head coaches that we do with the 473 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: press conferences, but the assistant coaches and the position coaches 474 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: and things like that, Greg just to kind of ground 475 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: you every once in a while in case of media brain. 476 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I hear, just to bring it back to 477 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 2: the Titans, you know, because that's you know, basically, what 478 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 2: will we do is whoever gets hired as the OC 479 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 2: is not going to come in and say, Man, you 480 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 2: know what, I'm coming in, Kim, were's gonna have to 481 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: wear the cape every week and we can't win. They're 482 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 2: not going to come in like that. That's not the 483 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 2: way they're going to see it. Fans might think that 484 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: that's what has to happen, but coaches are not going 485 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: to approach it like that. 486 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: Correct. It should be a fascinating weekend of football for 487 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: a couple of different reasons, Greg. I can't wait to 488 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: see how it plays out. And to your point about potentially, 489 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: you know, the idea of a low scoring game in 490 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game, it almost feels more likely than 491 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: a high scoring affair given these two teams, how they 492 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: know each other. 493 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, and let's turnovers which you can never predict. 494 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, So you can get ready for the 495 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: weekend of football as always with the NFL Matchup show 496 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: on ESPN with our buddy Greg co Selderius Butler in 497 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: South Platonio making you smarter? Are there anything beyond what 498 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: we talked about, Greg that will be highlighted in the 499 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: show this week that people should be key. 500 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 2: You know, as I said, I went back, and I 501 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 2: looked at Stidham, so there'll be a piece because you 502 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: have to see him. I mean, he's playing quarterback. But 503 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 2: you know, because in the NFC Championship game in particular, 504 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 2: these teams played Week eleven and Week sixteen, we did 505 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 2: pieces that are you know, very much focused on the 506 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: head to head because you know these teams know each 507 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: other well. This is a classic coaches coach against coaches game, 508 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 2: but particularly on the offensive side of the ball, Rams 509 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball Seahawks. You know, it's McVeigh 510 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 2: in many ways versus McDonald. You know, it's it's they're 511 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 2: going to be coaching against philosophies, and which plays into 512 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 2: again about Matthew Stafford. It's not putting the cape on. 513 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 2: They're going to be coaching against philosophies. Mcveigh's gonna have 514 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 2: some plays where we feel like, hey, in this particular situation, 515 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 2: if I come out with this personnel in this formation, 516 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 2: I think I can have an opportunity to do this. 517 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 2: You know, that's the way these guys think about it. 518 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,239 Speaker 2: He's not thinking like, oh man, Matthew Stafford, you know, 519 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 2: he better be superman this week or we can't win 520 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 2: he's not thinking like that. 521 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: Well, we'll look forward to seeing the breakdowns on TV 522 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: before the football gets underway, and Buddy or next we 523 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: meet we I mean, I don't know, Greg, We'll have 524 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: a little Super Bowl analysis we can do it also 525 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: be ahead of the Senior Bowl, where there's a lot 526 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: of fun draft products started. 527 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: Believe it or not, I've actually started because with less 528 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: NFL tape to watch, as you know, and the matchup show, 529 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 2: even though we don't shoot it till Fridays, the matchup 530 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 2: show essentially in the can as far as all the 531 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 2: film segments, and I have prep work to do, but 532 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 2: you know that doesn't take five hours because I've been 533 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 2: prepping all week and all season essentially, I've started. You know, 534 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 2: I've looked. I'm trying to get a feel for a 535 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 2: bunch of guys early as opposed to doing them all 536 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 2: in detail. So I've taken a peek of ty Simpson. 537 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 2: I'm starting with some receivers. I've looked at Cornell Tate, 538 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 2: I've looked at I'm looking at Kevin conception on right now. 539 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 2: I've looked at Jordan Tyson. So you know, I'm just 540 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 2: trying to get a feel for some guys, and then 541 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 2: you know, because you know what happens, You go to 542 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 2: the combine and everybody starts asking me about you know guys, 543 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 2: and I want to do a lot of the main guys, 544 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 2: at least get a feel for him. 545 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: God knows that that is. It's the same time every 546 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: year of the combine, but it is rapidly approaching, so 547 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: best make preparations as fast as humanly possible at this point. 548 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: All right, buddy, enjoy the football. We'll do it again 549 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: next week. 550 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 2: All right, Thanks a lot, buck, appreciate it.