1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: And very Happy Friday to you. 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 2: At twelve oh seven in the West, it's the John 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 2: Phillips Show, mister Randy Wangs in Culver City. John, we 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 2: have a new poll in the LA mayors race, and 5 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: coming in first place with forty percent of the vote 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: is a candidate I haven't heard of before. His name 7 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: is not Sure. 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: That sounds episcopal. 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: The incumbent, Karen Bass is coming in in this poll 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 3: at twenty five percent. 11 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: No, that is so unbelievably pathetic. She deserves every bit 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: of it. 13 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 3: I don't know if we've ever seen, outside of Eric Adams, 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 3: an incumbent in a mayor's reelection race polling this badly. 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: The last time I think it happened was with Jimmy 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: Hahn when he was running for reelection and he made 17 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: it to the runoff and then he got obliterated by 18 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: Via Rigosa in the runoff. 19 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 3: Coming in third place behind not Sure and Karen Bass 20 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 3: is Spencer Pratt with eleven percent, followed by Nythia at 21 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 3: nine percent, and Ray Huang and Adam Miller are tied 22 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 3: for last place at three percent each. 23 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 2: All Right, so if the election were today, the November 24 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 2: runoff would be Karen Bass and Spencer Pratt. 25 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 4: If you're feeling down, if you're feeling blue, let's get 26 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 4: help for you. 27 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 3: Here's what we can see through this poll that weird 28 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 3: dsa poll that showed Nythia at thirty percent, and all 29 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 3: the polls that we've seen in this mayor's race. There 30 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 3: is a very non existent chance of Karen Bass beating 31 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: the runoff. She's going to have to go to November. 32 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: Oh, I think that that's a foregone conclusion. I don't 33 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: see her getting over fifty percent. Because any you're an 34 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: incumbent running for reelection and the undecided number is high, 35 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: that's a bad sign. That would be like asking a 36 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: married person, so you've been married to your wife for 37 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: the last four years, what do you think the odds 38 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: are you'll be married to her for the next four 39 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: If the answer is anything other than yes, that marriage 40 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 2: is doomed. 41 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 3: How irritated do you think you have to be if 42 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: you're looking at this poll and your name is Rick Caruso. 43 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 2: Quite frankly, I don't know what's going on with him. 44 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 2: I've always had a very high opinion of that guy. 45 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: I love his malls, I love the fact that he 46 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: is making Southern California look prettier whenever he has a 47 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: project going on. But when he ran for mayor of 48 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 2: Los Angeles as a Democrat, no one believed him. He 49 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: had zero authenticity. And then he started giving money to 50 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: the most destructive people on planet Earth when you know 51 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: he didn't believe in any of that. And now he's 52 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: the number one supporter of Matt Mahan and they're giving 53 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: him the same awful advice. And he took a pass 54 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: on running for mayor when I think he could have 55 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: waltzed into that office. 56 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 3: It would have been the I told you so race, 57 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 3: and it would have been fascinating. But that's okay because 58 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 3: Spencer Pratt is here to take up that mantle of 59 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 3: Instead of the I told you so race, it's the 60 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 3: you burned my house down race. 61 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 2: Whatever strategists for taking Rick Caruso's money, I'm sure they're 62 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: living high on the hog right now. But for that 63 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: amount of money, don't you think you could have given 64 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: the guy some good advice. 65 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 5: He had. 66 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 3: I mean, he was him and ing hang about that race, 67 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: either governor's race or mayor's race, for about a year, 68 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 3: so he was paying consultants for quite some time for nothing. 69 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: Didn't he go. 70 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 2: On with Elex on CNN a week before the deadline 71 00:03:58,440 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: and said that he was going to run for gov 72 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: Or Mary. 73 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: He just hadn't decided yet. Yeah, that didn't happen. 74 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what's going on over there, but 75 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: didn't work out. Eight hundred two two two five two 76 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 2: two two is telephone number one eight hundred two to 77 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: two five two two two. Well, Democrats are now in 78 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 2: panic mode as they take a look at the governor's 79 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: race because the odds of two Republicans making the November 80 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,799 Speaker 2: ballot are high enough to where the freakout has begun. 81 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: And part of their problem is they can't get their 82 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: voters excited about any of the candidates, let alone one 83 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: of them. And if that doesn't happen between now an 84 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 2: election day, they could be in a world hurt. 85 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 3: Enthusiasm for the governor's primary in June is still very 86 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 3: very low. Here we are in April, one month away 87 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: from the ballots going out, two months it's away from 88 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 3: the election. 89 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: For more. 90 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 3: Here is ABC ten in Sacramento. 91 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 6: Well, when it comes to the raceful California governor, it 92 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 6: is still wide open. 93 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 3: There is no clear I think not sure is also 94 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 3: polling really well in that race. 95 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: Boy, that guy's popular. 96 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 6: Well, when it comes to the raceful California governor, it 97 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 6: is still wide open. There is no clear front runner 98 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 6: in the pack of leading candidates. 99 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 7: Well, what about voters? Do people even know who's asking 100 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 7: for their vote? ABC ten State Matters political reporter Jenny 101 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 7: huh joins US Now with a reality check on voter 102 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 7: enthusiasm ahead of June. 103 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 8: Jenny, Well, right now, there's very little enthusiasm. 104 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: You don't say that could have been the whole report. Now, 105 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: let's throw it to sports. 106 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 8: Well, right now, there's very little enthusiasm for many. 107 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: Calivin you know what they did. 108 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 3: Throw it to sports, and let's check in with the 109 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 3: West Sacramento as well. 110 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 8: Right now, there's very little enthusiasm Oaklyn Bees. 111 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: Might be more enthusiasm for that team. No, no, there's not. 112 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 8: For many Californians. It still feels too early to fully 113 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 8: engage in this race, which is why a lot of 114 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 8: voters are saying they're still undecided on who they will 115 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 8: support for governor. What is the biggest indicator that there 116 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 8: is low interest overall? 117 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 9: Well, I think the buzz right, you don't hear a 118 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 9: lot of people talking about in their regular daily lives 119 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 9: who's running for governor of California. 120 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you right now, this race that 121 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 3: we've been covering pretty heavily for about a year, has 122 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 3: had two moments that made the national news. One of 123 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 3: them was this you're out of my shot, and the 124 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: other one was the debate getting canceled because of the 125 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 3: all white candidates. 126 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: Outside of that. 127 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: Nobody has really been paying attention outside of people rilled in, 128 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 3: like the listeners of this show to this race. 129 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 2: So here's my theory on that. I think there are 130 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: two main reasons on the Democratic side and one main 131 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: reason on the Republican side. Number one is that Democrats 132 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: have been taught for quite some time, ever since Donald 133 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: Trump came on the scene, that state and local politics 134 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: does not matter, that federal politics is the only thing 135 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: that matters, and stopping Donald Trump is issue number one, 136 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 2: two and three. The other thing is that it's been 137 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: beaten into their head that everything is racial. Everything is 138 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: racial with them. They see race in everything, and the 139 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: problem with trying to take those two things and apply 140 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: it to state politics is that Donald Trump really doesn't 141 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: have much to do with state policy. In California, or 142 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 2: at least he shouldn't. And there are very few state 143 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: issues where there's an obvious racial angle. If you're dealing 144 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: with the insurance crisis, or you're dealing with water, or 145 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: you're dealing with electricity, or you're dealing with fires, it's 146 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: not easy to get worked up on a racial angle 147 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: over it. Now they'll try on occasion, but it's not 148 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: a natural fit. So if they're not interested in state 149 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 2: and local issues and there's no racial angle to gin 150 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 2: them up, why should they care? You've been telling them 151 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: for a decade, that's all they need to care about. Well, okay, 152 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 2: don't be surprised when they sit out a state and 153 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: local election. And then on the Republican side, the problem 154 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: is that in a one party state, you go out 155 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 2: and you vote in every election and everything you vote 156 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 2: for loses, and at a certain point you just say 157 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 2: to yourself, Okay, what's the point of even doing that. 158 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: What's the point of taking the two minutes out of 159 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: my day to fill out the ballot, put it back 160 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: in the mailbox, and go about my day. And California 161 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 2: Republicans can't even get them to do that, which. 162 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: Is really pathetic. 163 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: And then on top of that, the cherry on top 164 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 2: of the Sunday and you can blame this on Newsom 165 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: and the Democrats was Proposition fifty. California, believe it or not, 166 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: had several congressional districts that were contested by both parties. 167 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 2: After Proposition fifty, there's what three competitive congressional races in California. 168 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: So you're dealing with a huge population of people who 169 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: really are expected to fill out a ballot when there's 170 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: nothing competitive on there. And the one competitive race, which 171 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: is the primary election and for governor, is a state race, 172 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 2: so they don't care about those issues. Use I think 173 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 2: turnout is going to be really low, and I think 174 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 2: both parties if they intend on getting what they want 175 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: out of the primary, if they're going to be successful, 176 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 2: they need to figure out how to turn their people 177 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 2: out when their people have been trained not to. 178 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 9: You know, regular Daily Lives, who's running for governor of California. 179 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 10: The polling is showing that, you know, there's nobody that's 180 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 10: consolidated the Democratic If. 181 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 3: You ask the average California voter two questions, I wonder 182 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 3: which one they would know better. What's the premiere date 183 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 3: for Love Island beyond the villa on Peacock Or when's 184 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: the governor's race? 185 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: Should we check in with the average California voter. 186 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 7: No, I don't know enough to give you any good information, 187 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 7: but the luck finding someone who does. 188 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 3: When's the Love Island Thing? Premiere April fifteenth. 189 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:52,479 Speaker 1: Marct Calendars. 190 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 10: The polling is showing that, you know, there's nobody that's 191 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 10: consolidated the Democratic majority in the race. 192 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 11: To succeed Govin Newsom as governor of California. Poll after 193 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 11: a poll shows no clear front runner amid the ten 194 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 11: top candidates eight Democrats, two Republicans. In fact, the biggest 195 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 11: number in surveys of likely voters is the percentage of 196 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 11: those still undecided. 197 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 10: People are just saying, I can to be super excited 198 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 10: about the race for governor. 199 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 9: They're also just not finding these candidates interesting. 200 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but I think that Katie 201 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 2: Porter is very interesting. 202 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 3: You can small you are borderline obsessed with her. 203 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: I kind of am I'm pulling in to the bakery. 204 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 3: You can say a lot of things about Katie Porter, 205 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 3: and a lot of people have emailed us a lot 206 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 3: of things about Katie Porter. Not interesting is something I 207 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 3: have never heard anyone say about Kat Porter. 208 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 11: Sorry for the noise, I'm cutting carrots. 209 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 2: Nope, if we were playing family feud, that wouldn't make 210 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 2: the list. 211 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 11: There will be more than sixty candidates on the June 212 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 11: ballot for governor. 213 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 12: A crowded ballot really shouldn't discourage purchase of I really 214 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 12: don't see. 215 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 3: And by the way, everyone talks about the ten candidates 216 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 3: that you know, when you actually get that ballot in 217 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 3: the mail, it's going to be several pages long because 218 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 3: on top of all the other races you're going to 219 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 3: vote for, like community college board, you're going to be 220 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 3: voting and choosing between sixty one candidates that made the 221 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 3: ballot for governor. 222 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: Sixty one and it's not even a recall election. I 223 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 2: think the recall only had like forty. 224 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 12: See Californians as disengaged. I just think everyone's navigating a 225 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 12: lot of noise right now. 226 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 11: Expect a lot more noise from NonStop campaign ads to 227 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 11: intensifying partisan politics, all of it ramping up as we 228 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 11: get closer to election day. 229 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 3: Experts say the political tone is, you know, it's interesting 230 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 3: with this many candidates. There's only so much TV inventory, 231 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 3: there's only so much radio inventory. I mean, we have 232 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 3: some room here of Tom Steyer if you want to 233 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 3: buy some. But if you've got ten candidates there, it's 234 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 3: going to be every single ad in every single break. 235 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: And there's so many other things that are also going 236 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: to be on the ballot, like propositions. 237 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 2: Oh and it's so annoying when you're watching something on 238 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 2: YouTube and you're watching Vegas Matt play the Buffalo Machine 239 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: and then they cut into it for a Tom Styer ad. 240 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 3: Dude, you got to pay for premium. It's the best 241 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 3: eighteen bucks a month you'll ever spend. You don't see 242 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 3: any ads on YouTube. It's great. 243 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 9: The political tone has become toxic, or more toxic than 244 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 9: it's been. 245 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 11: Which strate to just say, are all indications of likely 246 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 11: low voter turnout, especially since it's the most part is 247 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 11: in voters that participated primaries. 248 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 12: Anyways, I don't think the issue is trying to make 249 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 12: people care they do. It's just that we need to 250 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 12: meet them where they're at and meet what. 251 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: Does that mean? It's psychobabble. 252 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 3: We all nothing are sending a ballot to everybody's mailbox, 253 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: so everybody will know that there's an election unless they 254 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 3: just don't check their mail, which there are some people 255 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 3: that do that, but everyone knows there's an election, and 256 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 3: you have the thing, you just have to fill it 257 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: out and put it in a box. And still turnout 258 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 3: is very low in this state. 259 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 12: I don't think the issue is trying to make people 260 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 12: care they do. It's just that we need to meet 261 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 12: them where. 262 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 3: They're at and meet you know who uses that term, 263 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 3: meet them where they are Barbara Ferrara when she says 264 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 3: we need to give meth heads pipes, that. 265 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: Is quite a woman to take cues from. 266 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 12: No thank you, participation in our democracy feel relevant and accessible. 267 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 11: Jenni Ferrell, executive director of the League of Women Voters 268 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 11: of California, a non partisan group that advocates for vote That's. 269 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: Why she made no sense. She's with them. 270 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 11: California, a non partisan group that advocates for voting rights 271 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 11: and access, says when people believe their vote matters, they're 272 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 11: more likely to show up and vote. 273 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 12: They're feeling it at the gas pump, they're feeling it 274 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 12: with their health insurance bills, and with grocery bills. 275 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 8: Turnout can have a significant impact. It could even determine 276 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 8: whether two Republicans advance to the November runoff, if Democrats 277 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 8: split their vote and no Democratic. 278 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know who's not helping that situation, Bianca with 279 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 3: this investigation into the top fifty vote in Riverside. You 280 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 3: know what that does tells people not to vote, Well, 281 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 3: it's cut through the noise. 282 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: He has been in the news cycle pretty much every 283 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 2: single day since he did that, which is very difficult 284 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 2: to do when you have all of the international news, 285 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: national news, and Gavin Newsom taking up all the oxygen 286 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: in the room. 287 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 3: That's true, but when you're on the news every day 288 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 3: saying that the elections are rigged, you depress turnout among 289 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 3: your own voters. 290 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: Well, and that's part of the problem with Republicans. Many 291 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 2: Republicans do not want to send their ballots out in 292 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:00,239 Speaker 2: the mail. Well, fine, vote on election day. The problem 293 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 2: is going to be if you don't take the sure thing, 294 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 2: then some of them are going to forget its election day. 295 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: Some of them are going to get sick, some of 296 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: them are going to have to leave the state on 297 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: a business trip. Something's going to happen, and you're going 298 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: to lose a certain percentage of your vote. 299 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 8: And no Democrat for governor in November would affect turnout 300 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 8: there as well. 301 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 10: What's driving turnout is top of the ticket, which means 302 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 10: the governor's race is going to drive turnout. It's not 303 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 10: going to be, you know, the local school board race. 304 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 11: These experts say, with ballots going out in a month, 305 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 11: it's up to voters to do their research and for 306 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 11: candidates to go beyond nay I D. 307 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 10: That alone does not win you the race. Now you 308 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 10: have to close the deal with voters of what you 309 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 10: know at some point how you're going to be a 310 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 10: better governor. 311 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 9: People are very hard to reach. 312 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 3: Well, they're easy to reach, but they're very distracted. 313 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 8: And some key primary election dates. County elections offices will 314 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 8: start mailing ballots on May fourth, The last date a 315 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 8: registered to vote is May eighteenth, and the primary election 316 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 8: is on June second. 317 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 13: Chris, Laura, Ry, Jenny H. 318 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 14: Thank you. 319 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: There you go. 320 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 3: The lack of enthusiasm among California voters in the governor's race. 321 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: And the ballots go out in the mail a month 322 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 2: from tomorrow. 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We told you about that building 361 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 3: in Van Eyes that has eighty seven of these businesses, Well, 362 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 3: it looks like Bill A. Saley and federal law enforcement 363 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 3: have made some huge bus in people that were stealing 364 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 3: millions of dollars from your tax money because they were 365 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 3: stealing for medicare. For more on this, here is CBSLA 366 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 3: and their investigative reporter Ross Palumbo. 367 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 15: Now this finding fraud early morning raids across southern California 368 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 15: following a CBS investigation into hundreds of millions of dollars 369 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 15: allegedly stolen from medicare. 370 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 16: CBSLA Senior Investigative Reporter Ross Plumbo is here now with 371 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 16: the unprecedented access the Feds gave us as they made 372 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 16: several including a married couple, accused of stealing nearly eight 373 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 16: million dollars. 374 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 2: Oh boy, well, they're going to start spending their anniversaries apart. 375 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:10,479 Speaker 4: That's right. 376 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 17: Well, that's right, Rudebay and Pat. More than a dozen 377 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 17: were detained, eight people and all were arrested, all of 378 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 17: them accused of stealing millions of dollars in Medicare money, 379 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 17: a problem we first exposed after finding more than seven 380 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 17: hundred hospice locations across LA County that experts say all 381 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 17: had serious signs of fraud. 382 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 3: Yes, this was from the own state auditors report of 383 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 3: all the signs for fraud. So many of these businesses 384 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 3: have three or more of the red flags. And yet 385 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 3: what does our Attorney general do, Bob Bonta Ben's Blackjack. 386 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 3: We have great information from the state Auditor. It's just 387 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 3: no one in Sacramento has decided to do anything with it. 388 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 3: In fact, that's another great piece from our friend Julie 389 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 3: Watts at CBS Sacramento, is that the California State Auditor 390 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 3: puts out all these reports of all of the waste, 391 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 3: fraud and abuse and inefficiencies in our government and the 392 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 3: legislature and the governor ignore all of them. 393 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 17: Dozens of agents descending on a send Demas home, getting 394 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 17: in through the gate and getting out, multiple people, all 395 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 17: cuffed and carted away. 396 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 3: Now do you think any of these suspects were shnging 397 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 3: it in the morning? 398 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: Are you alleging that some of them slept in the nude? 399 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 12: Absolutely? Absolutely. 400 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 3: When Shanghy got raided by the FBI, the FBI agent 401 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 3: had to watch as she put on her bra because 402 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 3: they thought she was going to sneak something out of there. 403 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you this. 404 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: Once these San Dimas residents were put in the back 405 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 2: of a black and white, they went on Bill and 406 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 2: Ted's excellent adventure. 407 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 3: That's right. 408 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 18: I like that that all cuffed and carted away, including 409 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 18: this couple accused of committee nearly eight million dollars in 410 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 18: Medicare fraud. 411 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: Look at that, I mean. 412 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 5: Part of the eight million dollars, and most of that 413 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 5: money went, as you could see, mortgage payments, cars, vacations, 414 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 5: personal expenses. 415 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 3: The only people that can afford to live in California 416 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 3: are the people that are stealing. 417 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: That actually makes sense, personal expenses. 418 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 17: At least eight people arrested today at several locations, all 419 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 17: of it coming after our CBS investigation finding more than 420 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 17: seven hundred questionable hospice sites across La County in unusual 421 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 17: office locations, costing hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars. 422 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 2: Bonta, where are you he's going after the card clubs 423 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 2: and Donald Trump, Bob Bonta. 424 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 5: Nothing is more important right now than rooting out the 425 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 5: corruption and fraud that's happening with the tax dollars. 426 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 17: Federally claiming the state of California should have rooted it 427 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 17: out long ago before licensing these hospices to operate. 428 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 3: And of course Gavin's press office will get extra caddy 429 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 3: and say hey, Gavin Band and put a moratorium on 430 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 3: new hospice businesses in twenty twenty one. That's fine, but 431 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 3: why didn't you look at your own state audit showing 432 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 3: you all the existing ones that were frauds. 433 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: And let's not forget it's the California Secretary of State 434 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 2: that hands out the business licenses and gave the licenses 435 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: to many of these fraudulent hospice care organizations. And it 436 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: was Gavin Newsom who appointed Shirley Weber to that post. 437 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 5: They are not taking it seriously. They're not passing the regulations, 438 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 5: and they're not sending people to prison. 439 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: What's the first place. 440 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 17: It also comes in the wake of our CBS investigation 441 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 17: into more than eight hundred other fake businesses. 442 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 3: See there you go, right there, there's the Shirley Webbers story. 443 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: She might be well that we do have Ricardo Laura. 444 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 2: She might be the most incompetent statewide official we have here. 445 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm very kind of sketch. It's real close an elderly 446 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: care facility. This is supposed to be a construction company. 447 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: Now we're heading to a. 448 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 17: Spa also in bizarre locations, also registered with the state 449 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 17: of California. What are your thoughts about the state's role 450 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 17: in that crime. 451 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 5: What you're talking about is exactly what we highlighted. California 452 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 5: has totally given up its responsibility to make sure that 453 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 5: fraud isn't happening. 454 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,719 Speaker 3: Why would why is it so difficult to verify somebody 455 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 3: applying for a business license in the state is real? 456 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 2: Because if you don't care about state issues, you only 457 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 2: care about federal issues. Why would you spend any time 458 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: paying attention to that. 459 00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 17: In these cases? 460 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 3: Or is this a since you like with the illegal 461 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 3: smoke shops and massage parlors, We're looking the other way 462 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 3: because all we care about is that eight hundred dollars fee. 463 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: Maybe, but I don't know. I think they're just asleep 464 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: at the switch. 465 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,959 Speaker 17: In these cases. The California Secretary of State and Governor 466 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 17: Newsom refused our request to sit down and speak about it, 467 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 17: despite tens of thousands of dollars in fraud. 468 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: You know you should have done ross. You should have said, Gavin, 469 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about your book. 470 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: Oh, he would have been there, lickety split. 471 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 3: We'll talk a little young man in a hurry. And 472 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 3: then you slip in the question about the fraudulent businesses. 473 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 2: But surely weberman. She doesn't talk to anyone, and she 474 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 2: only makes the news when she does something illegal. Remember 475 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 2: what she did to Claudia Pascucci when she ran for US. 476 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 3: Senate, Christina Pascucci. You are confusing Claudia Pastchuda and Christina Pascucci. 477 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: That's what I said. 478 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 2: But remember when she was running for US Senate and 479 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 2: they screwed up the ballot designation. Yes, And then remember 480 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 2: when there was a race in Bakersfield for Congress after 481 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 2: Kevin McCarthy dropped out, and she said that the assemblyman 482 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 2: from the area, Vince Pong, couldn't run for it because 483 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 2: he had already applied to run for another office. But 484 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 2: that was before the congressional seat opened up, and she 485 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 2: tried to keep him off the ballot, and she lost 486 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 2: that one too well. 487 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 3: And you remember, going back to the recall, she tried 488 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 3: to keep Larry Elder off the ballot. 489 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 2: She did because he turned in the complete paperwork, but 490 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 2: for whatever reason, she wanted like two or three copies 491 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 2: of it, and one of the copies was incomplete, but 492 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 2: she had the completed paperwork and she tried to keep 493 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 2: him off the ballot for that reason and countless victims. 494 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 13: I feel like I want to scream. 495 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 9: I'm not entirely sure who is who to blame the most. 496 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 17: Now, today the federal government says the blame rest squarely 497 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 17: on the shoulders of California officials. 498 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 5: From our experience, the state of California does no vetting, 499 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 5: no checking the state. 500 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: Yep. 501 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 2: Surely Webber essentially verified that claim. She said it wasn't 502 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 2: her job, so stop asking her. 503 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 5: Has failed to take meaningful action in pretty much every 504 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 5: single fraud case you've seen us bring. 505 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 17: Well, we still haven't seen any action on those eight 506 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 17: hundred plus fraudulent businesses that we identified, But the Governor's office. 507 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 3: Said, seriously, it's not a good look when the television 508 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 3: news reporters, especially CBS investigates, whether you're talking Ross Palumbo 509 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 3: in LA or Julie Watt statewide, it's not a good 510 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 3: look when they're able to identify all this stuff before 511 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 3: the state investigators do. I'm telling you Rob Bonta is 512 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 3: going to get in big trouble. 513 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: Who Bob Bonta. Bob Bonta. He's got bigger fish to 514 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: fry than to worry about this. Does it involve a dong? 515 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: I think it might. 516 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 17: Well, we still haven't seen any action on those eight 517 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 17: hundred plus fraudulent businesses that we identified, but the Governor's 518 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 17: office says, they have cracked on on hospice fraud, investigating 519 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 17: one hundred and one cases in the last five years 520 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 17: and charging one hundred and nine people in fact. On 521 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 17: social media, Governor Knewso posted this quote, great to see 522 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 17: the federal government root out fraud in Trump's federal healthcare 523 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 17: system in California, we are fully supportive. 524 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: Now the Feds say that it's so caddy he. 525 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 2: Is, And I'll tell you something else. Wouldn't you be 526 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 2: embarrassed if you allowed this to go on for this 527 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 2: long and your people did nothing about it. Your people 528 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,959 Speaker 2: won't even talk to the news about it, and the 529 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 2: Feds come in and do something about it finally, and 530 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 2: all you can do is take a shot at the Feds. 531 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: He's more offended at the Feds being the ones to 532 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 2: get the credit for this than for the money being 533 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 2: stolen from California taxpayers. 534 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 3: Like this is a situation where everybody should be on 535 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 3: the same page, everyone's playing for the same. 536 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: Team, or they should be that we. 537 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 3: Our system, our medicare system in the state, is so 538 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,719 Speaker 3: unbelievably expensive, and a lot of it is because of 539 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 3: all of this fraud. We should all want to be 540 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 3: rooting out the people that are ripping off the state 541 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 3: and the federal government. 542 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 2: But don't forget when it was a reporter who first 543 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 2: came out and said this was going on, What did 544 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 2: Izzy and Newsom's online team do they attack the reporter. 545 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 2: Were more offended that the reporter put that out there 546 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 2: than that people were stealing the money. 547 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 17: Now offense say that this is actually just the beginning. 548 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 17: They are going to be going after many, many, many 549 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 17: many more people, not only here in California, but across 550 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 17: the country. In fact, I think that they may be 551 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 17: focusing on Texas next. 552 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: Oh boy, oh, I'm sure there's fraud there too. 553 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 3: Go get it and you can root out that fraud 554 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 3: and get some good barbecue. 555 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 15: Well, what does Governor news He's saying that they are 556 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 15: continuing their investigations and charging people. 557 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 4: Has anybody gone to jail? 558 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: Did you know? The good question, Pat, very good question. 559 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 17: Well, these people have gone to jail. In Newsom's case, 560 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 17: they say only four people have gone to jail. 561 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 3: You know, so Gavin did what one hundred investigations in 562 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 3: the last five years, and only four people went to jail. 563 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: That's evidence that he doesn't want to know what's going on. 564 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 19: Bob Bonta. 565 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: Case. 566 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 17: They say only four people have gone to jail. You know, 567 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 17: the governor's people are actually saying this is all politically motivated. 568 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 3: How is rooting out fraud a political motivation? 569 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 2: Because again, if everything is a federal issue and everything 570 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,479 Speaker 2: is about Trump, if Trump wants the fraudsters to go 571 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 2: to prison, then that's bad. 572 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: That is at Newsom's take. 573 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 17: But the DOJ says that a federal judge did sign 574 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 17: these warrants, and they say that is proof that they 575 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 17: are not politically motivated. 576 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 4: You decide your boot out fraud anywhere you can. 577 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: Right yep. 578 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 2: Pats on board, Yeah, Pat knows. And by the way, 579 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 2: you take one look at the mugshots of these people. 580 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 2: I know you're not supposed to judge a book by 581 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 2: its cover. They're all guilty in my opinion. 582 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 4: Any where you can, right yep, absolutely, thank you us. 583 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 3: Of course, let's just get a quick little assist from 584 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 3: my girl on that one. 585 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 4: Anywhere you can, right yep, absolutely, absolutely, of course. 586 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: But first we have some good dues for you. 587 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,959 Speaker 2: It looks like the voter ID initiative will be making 588 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: the November ballot. 589 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 3: For more on this, here is kpix in the Bay. 590 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 19: Should Californians have to show ID every time they vote 591 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 19: in an election? So that question could go before voters 592 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 19: this November. California is among fourteen states that. 593 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 3: Hey, can ID be anything like can you use your 594 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 3: Costco card? 595 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: Well? Costco is pretty thorough. 596 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 19: California is among fourteen states that do not require identification 597 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 19: when voting, although it does require ID when people register 598 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 19: to vote. So now there is a Republican led push 599 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 19: to change those rules. Kara Saints Heer heard from people 600 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 19: on both sides of this debate. 601 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 20: Good morning, would you like to assign the petitions? 602 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 13: For five months, Alice Quay has dedicated her weekends to canvassing. 603 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 20: Stay within the box if you can. 604 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 13: She's a volunteer. 605 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: Those are some rough weekends. Hey, they were able to 606 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: get the signatures though. 607 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 13: She's a volunteer with the Santa Clara GOP. 608 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 3: But this is one of the organizations that wasn't paying 609 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 3: homeless people to fill out fake names. 610 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: Now they put in the shoe leather. 611 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 13: She's a volunteer with the Santa Clara GOP working to 612 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 13: get several initiatives on the ballot, the biggest being voter. 613 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 20: Iding you've got enough signatures by February. 614 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 13: This initiative would require everyone to carry identification to the polls. 615 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: How does that work with a mail in ballot? 616 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 2: Though, Well, if you do it through the mail, I 617 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 2: don't think you have to provide. 618 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:12,719 Speaker 1: A picture. 619 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 3: I d like, is it that you get the ballot 620 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 3: sent to you, but when you turn it in you 621 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 3: got to show your ID? 622 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 4: Like? 623 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 3: How does I'm just curious how this all would work, 624 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 3: because I don't think we're getting rid of all of 625 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 3: mo vote by mail in the state. 626 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure. 627 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 2: Personally, I would like to go back to the old 628 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 2: days when you had to request the absentee ballot for 629 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 2: every election where you wanted it. That way, you don't 630 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 2: have a gazillion ballots floating around in the ether, and 631 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 2: if someone wants to be unethical, they can fill them 632 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 2: out and turn them in. 633 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 13: This initiative would require everyone to carry identification to the polls. 634 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 13: Mail in voters would add the last four digits of 635 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 13: their social or driver's license to. 636 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 3: The ballot bold yea, I'm many use driver's license. I'm 637 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 3: not using social So there you go. I have to 638 00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 3: put in the last four digits of my drive. 639 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: That'll do it. 640 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 20: Okay, voter idea is going to get on the ballot 641 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 20: in November quasis. 642 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 13: The goal is to prevent fraud. 643 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 20: If you go to banks, you go to buy alcohol, 644 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 20: you go take airline flights, you're required to show an ID. 645 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 20: An election is such a sacred civic duty, and requiring 646 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 20: the ID and requiring that the voters are legal is 647 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 20: super critical. 648 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 2: You know, you go back to that COVID election, that 649 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 2: twenty twenty election with Joe Biden beating Donald Trump, and 650 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 2: you look at the number of votes cast in that 651 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 2: election compared to the one before it and the one 652 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 2: after it, and it just spiked because everyone, not just 653 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 2: in California, but in other states voted by mail and 654 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 2: there were a gazillion ballots that were out there. My 655 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 2: guess would be, if this were to pass, you're going 656 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 2: to see less participation in terms of ballots being turned in. 657 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 2: But I think you're also going to see a whole 658 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 2: lot less fraud where only the people who are in 659 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 2: legal possession of the ballot can turn it in, as 660 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 2: opposed to people who want to go to an apartment 661 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 2: building and see a stack of unopened ballots in the 662 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 2: mailbox and fill them out and turn. 663 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 13: Them in something. It seems most Californians are aligned with 664 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,439 Speaker 13: the GOP gathered a million signatures, just enough to add 665 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 13: the measure to November's ballot box. This signals a change 666 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 13: in California politics. For Santa Clara GOP chair David Johnson. 667 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 14: One party rule can be eliminated by having common sense 668 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 14: things like voter id on the ballot, one step at 669 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 14: a time. It's going to take to restore some balance 670 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 14: political balance in the state of California. 671 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 3: It would definitely make it harder to do things like 672 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 3: ballot harvesting. 673 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that, oh a lot harder. 674 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 13: But the opponents don't see it that way. 675 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 16: This initiative is really voter suppression and pure and simple 676 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 16: was part of a coordinated national strategy to make it 677 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:03,959 Speaker 16: harder to vote. 678 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 13: Angelica Elcida, the program director. 679 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 3: Well, it's already super easy to vote and most people don't. 680 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 3: So what's your answer to that? Yeah, their argument doesn't 681 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 3: hold up. All right, We've got two more hours coming 682 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 3: up on the John Phillips Show, The Fix California Hours next. 683 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: Don't you go anywhere