1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Now back to Dirty Work from Harmonic Brewing at Thrive 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: City on the Sports Leader. Dirty Work is sponsored by 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: Jack's Restaurant and Bar and all day, any day kind 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: of place Dirty Work. 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: On a Wednesday, Adam Copeland deep p hop with you 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: from Harmonic Brewing and join now in person by Sam Amick. 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: He covers the NBA for The Athletic. He joined us 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: every week here on Dirty Work. 9 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 3: Sam. 10 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 2: Great to have you in person in the sun for 11 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: another Steph currylus Warrior about execd just just as God 12 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 2: intended Warriors and Lakers man, I mean, dude, he comes 13 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: back with like five left kind. 14 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 4: Of true story, guys, And it's great to be with 15 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 4: you in person. And of course, uh, driving down, I 16 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 4: shouldn't admit this. I should do a better job at 17 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 4: my job. I'm driving down today and I had to 18 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 4: be here anyway. I want to see the Lakers that 19 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 4: the playoffs are coming. I check in with them, and 20 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 4: I'm on the phone with our Nick Fidell, Athletic lawyer's 21 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 4: beat writer, and he casually is just like, ah, that 22 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 4: is his game without Steph, And I'm like, what stop playing? 23 00:00:58,920 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 3: Man? 24 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 5: Are on a back to back where this could be 25 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 5: the last time that he and Lebron face off Warriors 26 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 5: versus Lakers. 27 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 3: He decided for their teammates, right, yeah, yeah, exactly before 28 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 3: exact each other exactly. 29 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 5: But he's got to play a night and then tomorrow's 30 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 5: gonna play against the Kings. 31 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 3: Come on, I mean, at least he's nice enough to 32 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 3: play in my town. Yeah, that's true. But about you said, yeah, 33 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: stay by you. 34 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: I want to get into that and we'll talk warrior, uh, playoff, well, 35 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 2: I'll say play in. We'll talk big picture and playing 36 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 2: and all that in just a minute. But you mentioned 37 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: the game against Sacramento. In Sacramento, they got to win 38 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: stuff second game back, and he looked great in the 39 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: first game back, by the way, I thought, yeah, but 40 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: it was it twenty nine points in twenty six minutes. 41 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: The plan was the last six minutes of each quarter, 42 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 2: and he finished the game and they had a chance. 43 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: They lost by a point to a good Houston team. 44 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: So I thought that was a nice performance. I want 45 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: to get into the weird, the weird situation with Doug 46 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: Christie at the end of that game where they foul 47 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: Seth Curry. They put him at the free throw line 48 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: and everyone's going, what are you doing fouling in that situation, 49 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: Fraymont kind of accused him of tankings and the league's 50 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: got to look into this. The league investigated, you had 51 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: an article on it, and apparently is not as it seemed. 52 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 4: And not as it seems, and to look at it 53 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 4: through the Warriors filter since we're here on camb Are, 54 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 4: I don't think the Kings are too thrilled with Draymond 55 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 4: right now. Probably they feel like and I don't blame 56 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 4: him that the league, in Adam Silver, does have a 57 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 4: pretty long track record of overcorrecting when it comes to 58 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 4: the reaction to things that happened, whether it's something like 59 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 4: Draymond postgame accusing the Kings of tanking, or the social 60 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 4: media discussion around that situation which was really loud. So 61 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 4: next thing you know, they're actually doing an investigation the 62 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 4: King stance, which I definitely believe in that you can 63 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 4: have a whole nother side discussion of what this says 64 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 4: is that Doug Christie just made a bad mistake. So 65 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 4: the quick breakdown not to get two in the weeds, 66 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 4: but at three pot fifteen left in the fourth and 67 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 4: Kings are down one, I believe and Doug instructs Doug 68 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 4: McDermott to foul Seth Curry in ninety percent free throw shooter. 69 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 4: You guys know, on the broadcast they were highlighting it, 70 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 4: like what the heck are they doing. Doug thought that 71 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 4: he had a foul to give. Doug didn't want to 72 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 4: lose his third time out because they once you get 73 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 4: under three minutes, you lose that time out. He does 74 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 4: this all the time, preserves the time out because he 75 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 4: wants to draw something for the next possession. 76 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 3: Uh, he just screwed up. He thought they had a 77 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: foul to give. They didn't. Seth goes to the line. 78 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 2: He thought it was a hand right and so and 79 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 2: and for what it's worth. And I do think at 80 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: least in terms of having the investigation and the you know, 81 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 2: kind of debate about what really happened, he did that 82 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 2: logic tracks through to the next possession. 83 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 4: He draws up a nice at o for Doug McDermott. 84 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 4: Corner three on the right side, kings go up by 85 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 4: two I believe or three. Uh, and so, you know, 86 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 4: the best laid plans. He just screwed up. Thought they 87 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 4: had a foul to give. 88 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 3: They didn't. 89 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: So I mean two things true here not reassuring if 90 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: you're a Kings fan. 91 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 4: I said to someone earlier today though, like and this 92 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 4: is we joked off the air, maybe the first time 93 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 4: that I will defend Doug publicly, because I admittedly you 94 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 4: go back to when they fired Mike Brown and elevated Doug. 95 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 4: I don't care what team it is. I've never been 96 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 4: a big fan of of, you know, coaches who just 97 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 4: get the job a little bit through the back door, 98 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 4: and and that happened there, so definitely, but it come 99 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 4: when it comes to where we are now. You look 100 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 4: at it at the end of this season, and there's 101 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 4: part of me that shrugs and it almost feels for 102 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 4: Doug where it's like I don't I don't know if 103 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 4: he can coach because the roster is such a mess. 104 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 4: Everything's been such a mess. Uh, you know, mistakes happen. 105 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 4: Someone I talked to with the Kings joked about how, 106 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 4: like a bitch, I could find some mistakes that Draymond 107 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 4: made in the game, like does he not make mistakes? 108 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 3: And but this one was high profile, embarrassing. 109 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 4: Uh, you know, I am glad the league didn't find them, 110 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 4: only because I hate to win the league does stuff 111 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 4: just for the optics in the pr to look like 112 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 4: they're flexing, and that would have been wrong. 113 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 3: This didn't happen. 114 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 5: You mentioned the Kings are not happy with Raymond Green 115 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 5: bringing that up. I don't know if many players have 116 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 5: brought up tanking this season, but when Raymond Green brings 117 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 5: it up, of course he's very vocally as a podcast. 118 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 5: Does the league kind of look into that, the fact 119 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 5: that Raymond Green, like a player of his magnitude, is 120 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 5: talking about what's going on. 121 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 6: With the NBA right now with tanking. 122 00:04:59,240 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. 123 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 4: I mean I think he gets you know, he has 124 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 4: got unk status, you know what I mean, around for 125 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 4: a lot of time, and he has an informed point 126 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 4: of view. He is a very prominent, you know, influential 127 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 4: voice in the league. 128 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:14,239 Speaker 3: But it was well. 129 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 4: Beyond Draymond, as you guys know, because you're on the 130 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 4: social media side of things. I mean, you had very 131 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 4: high profile media members chiming in. It's funny Rob Perez, 132 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 4: who's what you would call a basketball kind of commentator 133 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 4: slash influencer. I mean he, to his credit, Rob did 134 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 4: a ten minute video breaking down this entire thing, and 135 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 4: one thing I loved about what he did was he 136 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 4: talked about, you know, the I'm not even going to 137 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 4: name drop some of the accounts, but there's some of 138 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 4: these garbage accounts on social media that have perfected the 139 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 4: art of instantly reacting to things that happened to get 140 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 4: maximum engagement. And some of the tweets that went out 141 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 4: and just basically said we've never seen tanking this bad, 142 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 4: and they had the clip without slowing down to add 143 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,119 Speaker 4: context and without I joke with somebody else, I should 144 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 4: be happy about this guy, because it's like job security 145 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 4: for people like me, because God forbid you get on 146 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 4: the phone and start finding out like what actually happened. 147 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: He just posted video and I know what happened. Yea, 148 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 2: They posted videos. So this is the worst tanking we've 149 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: ever seen. It goes viral, people react to it all over. Now, 150 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: now you have a situation, you have a fire you 151 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: have to put out. Raymond added to the fire, and 152 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: the League obviously looked into it and took it where 153 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: they took it. 154 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 3: It reminds me a couple of years ago, Derek. I 155 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 3: don't know if you remember this. 156 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,239 Speaker 2: It was a game where like it was when Trevor 157 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 2: Bower was still pitching and at one point he was 158 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: talking to the catcher while the hitter was up and 159 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: he held up a number two. 160 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. 161 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: People were going, wow, he's telling the batters. Yeah yeah, 162 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: he was telling the catcher, I want the second set 163 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: of signs with the runner around second vio. But people 164 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 2: on social mede the same thing that that can't believe 165 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 2: he's look at this bad ass. He's telling everybody what. 166 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 3: He's sound like. 167 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 4: I'm eighty years old, but it's the old saying about 168 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 4: you know, a lack and get halfway around the world 169 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 4: before the truth has a chance to put his pants on. 170 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 3: Like that's social media a lot of times. 171 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 5: Well we saw earlier this year when everything was going 172 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 5: down with Terry Rozier and Chauncey Billups, where people are 173 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 5: clipping things on social media and saying like, okad's pointing 174 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 5: some guy in the crowd he's got money on the game, Like. 175 00:06:59,240 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 6: That's that, that's just what. 176 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it goes nowhere. It's starting to Sam Amicure 177 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: of the Athletic. Uh, there's a great job cover in 178 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 2: the NBAH. I know that piece on the on the 179 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: Athletic dot com about uh, the Doug Christie not tanking against. 180 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 3: The I know we're about to move on. 181 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 4: Did you enjoy the I I enjoyed writing the anonymous 182 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 4: quote that I used from The Kings of Fish said, if. 183 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 3: We're if we're tanking, we're pretty bad. I were pretty bad, 184 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: I did. I did like that quite thirteen. I think 185 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 3: in the last twenty three weeks trying to win, he's 186 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 3: we're not tanking. 187 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: Speaking of teams under five hundred, the Warriors have been 188 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: locked into this ten seed. When they'll play the Clippers 189 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: next week or Portland at Portland, this will be the 190 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: first time. I mean, I'd have to go back and 191 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 2: look at the last few years, but there was a 192 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: number of years when I was a kid, even in 193 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: through high school and in college, where teams that were 194 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: the seven and eight in the East were getting into 195 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: the playoffs at under five hundred. The first time I 196 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: can remember even a playing down here. This bad for 197 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: the Warriors. Is this an indictment on the plane? 198 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 4: It's not a good look right now. I agree with 199 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 4: you know, Draymond. Part of his kind of post game 200 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 4: rant the other night was at the play in is 201 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 4: not working like the Warriors specifically, and they're not the 202 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 4: only team like this. I don't remember ever a team 203 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 4: being so locked in standings wise that you have fifteen 204 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 4: percent of the season is like practice crazy. There was 205 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 4: nowhere to go. If you're a Warriors man, you just 206 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 4: you come out here tonight. You hope you see some 207 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 4: entertaining plays. You don't actually care that much the result. Yeah, 208 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 4: So it's it's hard to say if it's an indictment 209 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 4: of the play in long term, because we've had so 210 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 4: many good play in moments. It's been fantastic, you know, 211 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 4: for a lot of its life. And I feel like 212 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 4: there's this teeter totter thing happening, whether it's playing, whether 213 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 4: it's sixty five game rule. It's wild because one second 214 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 4: you'll see, like I like the sixty five game rule. 215 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 4: When they put it in, I was tired of load management. 216 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 4: I thought they needed to do something. Now it's a 217 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 4: complete train wreck this year. So I don't know the 218 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 4: future of the play. And you know, they're talking about 219 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 4: some plans where you could even extend that out and 220 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 4: make an even deeper playoff field. I think that's a 221 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 4: bad idea, but I don't know right all I know 222 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 4: right now it's. 223 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 3: Kind of ugly. 224 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, Draymond not excited about the play in, but he 225 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 5: also talked about his future and I think most Warrior 226 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 5: fans are kind of focused on that right now, not 227 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 5: really the end of this season. 228 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 6: What happens this offseason and Draymond Green. 229 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 5: A recent interview I believe with Tim Kamaccamie was talking 230 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 5: about the ideal scenario this offseason with his player option. 231 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 5: He said, in a perfect world, I would love my 232 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 5: asient Rich Paul, to be with me here talking about this. 233 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 6: But in a perfect world, I would like to opt 234 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 6: out and. 235 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 5: Extend with the Warriors, and I'm not sure the Warriors 236 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 5: want to do that at this point. 237 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 6: What do you make of Draymond Green's future right now? 238 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 3: I feel like they're you know, it's funny. 239 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 4: I talked to Draymond early in the season about this, 240 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 4: and you know, he said this a lot like that 241 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 4: idea that they have such relationship, kind of synergy and 242 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 4: chemistry between them, with all the history between the organization 243 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 4: and him, that they can find something that works for 244 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 4: both sides. Into his credit, guys, as a quickest side, 245 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 4: I've never covered a player who is so savvy in 246 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 4: this regard to on Kawakami's podcast Tim's podcast. He talked 247 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 4: about like just very clear eyed about how he's manic 248 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 4: here this part of his relationship with the Warriors, because 249 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 4: he's humble enough to know that if you don't play 250 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 4: this right, they will kick you out of town so fast, 251 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 4: because you know, if you're if you're a net negative, 252 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 4: and he's trying not to be that. He wants to 253 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 4: be here until the end of his career. Contract wise, 254 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 4: I think they get something done if I got to 255 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,239 Speaker 4: handicap it now. It's tricky because of the Porzingis situation. 256 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 4: You know they're gonna be kind of dipping out of 257 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 4: the same pool money wise, but there's so many kind 258 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 4: of things up in the air about the summer, so 259 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 4: who knows. But as far as the vibe and and 260 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 4: do they want Draymond to continue here, I definitely think 261 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 4: they do. 262 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: Talk going to see I'm may have a cure of 263 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 2: the athletic on the Arman guest line, but sitting next 264 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: to us here at Harmonic Brewing, we just. 265 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: Call it that too. 266 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 2: Did you We talked to you a couple of weeks ago, 267 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: or maybe it was last week. We asked you about 268 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: the reports and rumors around kawhi and you said, I 269 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: feel like it's it's more noisy now, Like you feel like, 270 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: did you did you look into this or did you 271 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 2: find anything else out about it, the legitimacy of it, 272 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 2: or where where the Clipper side would have been on this. 273 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they talked for sure, spinning it forward 274 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 4: somewhat surprisingly. I thought we talked about that that it 275 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 4: was gonna be one of those kind of irons in 276 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 4: the fire that they're putting right back in in the summertime. 277 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 4: That's not the messaging that we're getting. It's they're acting 278 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 4: very measured about this summer that Really the list of 279 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 4: Giannis is still at the top of the list, Like 280 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 4: that's the guy you blow everything up for. If the 281 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 4: Bucks end up looking your direction and saying we like 282 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 4: what you can bring to the table, the kawhi Wan 283 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 4: still doesn't seem as pressing or as much of a priority. 284 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 4: I'm still fascinated by it, didn't you know? The intel 285 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 4: I've gotten is on the warrior side, not necessarily in 286 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 4: the clipper side. 287 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 3: They're a little busy with the. 288 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 2: You know, shadows hanging over the days, trying not avoid 289 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: the cabin all that Yeah, it's also like, and I 290 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: don't know what that deal would look like. 291 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 4: I was actually thinking about it on the drive down. 292 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 4: You know, one of the Warriors, at least one of 293 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 4: the major pieces would be going back to the Clippers 294 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,599 Speaker 4: and something like that. You know, whether it's Jimmy or 295 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 4: or Draymond. But you know, fit wise, you would have 296 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 4: to figure that out. Giannis is such a an easier 297 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 4: fit to slide right into what they're doing. You know, 298 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 4: I'd be cures to see what it looked like around Kahi. 299 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 6: You mentioned Lebron James. 300 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 5: He could be a Golden State Warrior with him hitting 301 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 5: free agency this offseason. But with Luka Doncic injured now 302 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 5: and Austin Reeves injured for the Lakers, is there a 303 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 5: possibility that if Lebron James looks like Lebron James, it 304 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 5: takes this team further into the postseason, that he could 305 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 5: return as a Laker. 306 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 4: I think so. I didn't think that a couple months ago. 307 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 4: I also think that honestly, everything's on the table. You know, 308 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 4: I think he could still walk away. I think his 309 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 4: off court life and I'm talking family business all the above, 310 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 4: but mainly family is something that we need to make 311 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 4: sure we keep not glossing over because when we I 312 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 4: mean I've written like some other folks that Cleveland and 313 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 4: Golden State around the NBA are considered the two most 314 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 4: likely landing spots. 315 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 3: Now, obviously a Warrior's logistically. 316 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 4: You know, living in LA coming up to play for 317 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 4: the Warriors, that's a little easier. 318 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 3: But like this man is. 319 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 4: An extremely involved dad and everything you hear like he 320 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 4: does not want to be away from his family. So yes, 321 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 4: the Laker thing is all of a sudden. He took 322 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 4: that third option role, he thrived in it. They need 323 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 4: him more than ever now. I think that could change 324 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 4: the mood in the room. And and if you play 325 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,599 Speaker 4: for Cleveland or the Warriors, guys, you're gonna lose a 326 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 4: whole lot of money compared to what he's used to making. 327 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 4: And that's the other aspect here is that if the 328 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 4: Lakers are willing to put something real on the table, 329 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 4: I think he would look at that first. 330 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 6: And as far as the injury is going on with 331 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 6: the Lakers and across the league. 332 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 5: How much is that can impact the postseason where Kate 333 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 5: Cunningham just came back last night, but we saw that 334 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 5: Jewel embiid. I guess has a penacitis, and we'll see 335 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 5: how he's for how long he'll be out for. 336 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 3: I've had that. That's not too bad. 337 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: No, I can play hoops after the look I just 338 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: shot you was I literally just did another pod. 339 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 3: Tell my wife had one and I was gassing her 340 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 3: up in a good way. She struggled. It was he 341 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 3: was honestly, no joke. 342 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 2: It was the most painful thing I've ever experienced. Like, yeah, perforated. 343 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: I had a fever on like one hundred and four. 344 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: If they didn't know what was going on, first they 345 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 2: sent me to a hospital, went to another one, and 346 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 2: then they're like, oh no, that thing burst and you 347 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: gotta get that out. 348 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 4: And I'm not a doctor, but when you add about 349 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty pounds, you know, love Joel is 350 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 4: a big fellow, Yeah, and like forms yeah, yeah, yeah. 351 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 3: So anyway, that's your question. 352 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 5: I was just saying how much they can impact the 353 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 5: posts when you see these big stars like Luca and 354 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 5: Austin Reeves and of course you well and b being 355 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 5: out for the foreseeable future. 356 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 4: No, it's unfortunate. I mean, I'm glad that Cade's back. 357 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 4: You know, Austin is going to be a while. Luca 358 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 4: is off. You know, I'm gonnahoot next thing. You know, 359 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 4: he's gonna go from Europe to the Moon to try 360 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 4: to find some treatment here. 361 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, at that part sucks. You know. 362 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 4: We were talking off air Derek about how I still 363 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 4: might go down and cover the Lakers if they have 364 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 4: the rockets, because you got Lebron. But it takes some 365 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 4: juice out because the Lakers are they were in that 366 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 4: second tier at one point they won seventeen nine of 367 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 4: nineteen games. Injuries are always unfortunate. I mean, Wenby having 368 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 4: the the rib contusion. I think he'll be back, but 369 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 4: like that's you want guys to be ready to roll, 370 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 4: even Steph. I mean you look at you know, I 371 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 4: know he's down at that bottom of this playoff discussion, 372 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 4: this team wise, but like Steph is still limping into 373 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 4: the playoffs, trying to get comfortable. So you know, hopefully 374 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 4: we don't have too many guys missing. 375 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: I was asking Derek this earlier and we had to 376 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 2: Ted Raimi was filling in with me. Mondays I was 377 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: throwing this at him because you know ten seed Warriors, 378 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: like you're saying, nobody coming out tonight, You're not going anywhere. 379 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 2: You just know who your one of your next two 380 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 2: opponents are are going to be at Portland or at LA. 381 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: I was asking Ted, like, is there anything Steph could 382 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: do that would be like a legacy type Steph's thing 383 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 2: in the in the play into the playoffs? He said, 384 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 2: is there anything that would even make me think differently 385 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: about the magic going into next year? And the only 386 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 2: thing I could come up with is they win the 387 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 2: two play in games, they get into the playoffs and 388 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: he takes it. Okay, see to the brink. Now do 389 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: I think they could do that as constructed? Not totally, 390 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: But it's also foolish to write off Steph Curry. That 391 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: would be something that I'd go, Man, he still got 392 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: the ability to carry a team at least that far. 393 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: We saw it last year against Minnesota when he went down, 394 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 2: they just kind of they didn't have the shots. So 395 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: is there anything like that in your mind that would 396 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 2: that would say, Okay, that's that magic is still there 397 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: for Steph. He still got that prime ability to carry. 398 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 3: A team, Like, no, there is. I thought you were 399 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 3: gonna go a little further and you know, never say 400 00:15:59,640 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 3: that run. 401 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: No, just say, at least knock somebody else if they 402 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 2: win that opening round, like if they go to a seven, 403 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 2: if they took okayse to the Brinker in the game seven, 404 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: that you win three games against them in a best 405 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 2: of seven or even eliminate them and have a we 406 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 2: believe type warrior feel. 407 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 3: I'm with you on that. It's something. It's something of 408 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 3: that magnitude that would have to happen. 409 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 4: Well, And I hesitate to keep plugging our buddy TK 410 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 4: with his pod, but yeah, I'll tell him to thank 411 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 4: me later. But like, but Draymond in that interview kind 412 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 4: of had me convinced to your question. He talked about 413 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 4: like the playoff experience that they have, the history they have, 414 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 4: and how I don't know if you guys heard this 415 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 4: part of the story. He told about how the year 416 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 4: that they wanted over the Celtics twenty twenty two, and 417 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 4: he told the buddy of his like, right before the playoffs, Hey, 418 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 4: we're gonna go see F one racing pretty soon. This 419 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 4: team has no shot, Like he told a friend that 420 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 4: the war shot. Yeah, and after the first playoff game, 421 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 4: he's like, bro, I ain't gonna see you, like we're 422 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 4: gonna w yeah, so, like you, they have a unique 423 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 4: history and the type of swagger and confidence that, like 424 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 4: you can never say never. I think that part's fun. 425 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 4: Do I think they're gonna do it? No, I don't know. 426 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 4: But you know, even the Rockets game, you mentioned Steph 427 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 4: providing those kinds of moments. 428 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 3: Uh. 429 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 4: You know, if if as all these ifs, if porzingis 430 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 4: is healthy, if these guys can show out, you know. 431 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 3: Maybe they can have a little fun. 432 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 5: And in that same interview with Tim Kelakami and Draymond, Draymond. 433 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 6: Well, I'm just saying, I'm just so us up the 434 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 6: question here. Draymond's talking about a podcasts in there. 435 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 3: Yeah we should. 436 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 5: Draymond did say that he only wants to play for 437 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 5: one coach with the main of his time with the Warriors, 438 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 5: and that Steve Kerr, And all the indications are that 439 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 5: Steve kers will come back next season for a last 440 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 5: dance type run. But do you think that as long 441 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 5: as Steph and Draymond are around, they're gonna keep pushing 442 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 5: for this where yes, maybe Steve just wants to do 443 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 5: one more season, but if Steph reups, if Draymond rees reups, 444 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 5: it's gonna be hard for Steve to say no to 445 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 5: those guys. 446 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. 447 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 4: I mean, like if you have if you're looking at 448 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 4: the pie of factors, Yeah, for Steve, Yeah, it's never 449 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 4: gonna be the whole pie, but it's a piece, you know, 450 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 4: It's always gonna be a piece. Like it's the most 451 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 4: unique relationship or relationships in the NBA right now, And 452 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of other examples. You know, Lebron 453 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 4: has jumped around so much, he doesn't have that connection 454 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 4: with one particular coach. You know, Eric Spolstra, maybe with 455 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 4: mam Adebayo, but they haven't won a championship together. So 456 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 4: you know, Steph and Dramon and Steve they have done 457 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 4: incredible things. And then you talk about Steph and Steve 458 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 4: with Team USA and just so many chapters and layers 459 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 4: to it. Steve's gonna always have a hard time walking 460 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 4: away if those guys are involved. 461 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 6: One more for you, Sam. 462 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 5: I think kind of shocked everybody on Monday when it 463 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 5: was announced that Michael Malone was gonna be a next 464 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 5: head coach of North Carolina Basketball, and I kind of 465 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,719 Speaker 5: always anticipated that he go back to the NBA. Did 466 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 5: the league kind of get where were they kind of 467 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 5: shocked by that news that he was going to stick 468 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 5: around and maybe go to the Pelicans on some other team. 469 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 3: I think so. 470 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, his name only I think hit the media in 471 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 4: relationship to that job two days before, you know. 472 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 3: So it was pretty quiet. 473 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of love it because I think Michael 474 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 4: is a great coach. 475 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 3: I know him pretty well. He is like, arguably the. 476 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 4: Most in tense coach that I've ever come across, and 477 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 4: at times that was an issue. 478 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 3: He runs too hot for a lot of people's taste. 479 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,959 Speaker 4: And honestly, not to over generalize, I know the college 480 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 4: game has changed, but it is still a place where 481 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 4: it's okay to have the coach be the biggest ego 482 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 4: in the room and they are the superstar. And I 483 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 4: think that's gonna work better at UNC. His daughter is 484 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 4: a volleyball player out there. That's something else I know 485 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 4: that he's excited about. 486 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 3: So we'll see. 487 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 4: I mean that even beyond UNC, I think that trend 488 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 4: of having just more NBA people in the college face 489 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 4: and the NAL era that we're in is fascinating. 490 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 3: So we'll see how he does. 491 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 2: Sina Amic the voice you here, we do them every 492 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 2: single week here covers the NBA for The Athletic and 493 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: you know what, dude, make sure you're checking out the 494 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 2: NBA Daily Podcast on the Athletic Podcast Network wherever you 495 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: get your podcast. 496 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 3: Sam. Always appreciate the time. Appreciate you guys. Thanks. We 497 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 3: got plenty more to come. 498 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: Are got Danny Emmerman's gonna joined us in just a 499 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 2: few minutes when we come on back a bit on 500 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: Steph as the greatest face of the franchise ever. 501 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 3: We'll do that next on These Sports Leader