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Speaker 1: It's the Ray Appleton Podcast from KMJ and KMJ now

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Speaker 1: dot com.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I have the feeling this is going to be

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Speaker 2: a lot of fun today. But before I give you,

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Speaker 2: Katie Grimes from the California Globe, I got to tell

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Speaker 2: you this. The Supreme Court has allowed California to use

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Speaker 2: the new voter approved congressional map that is favorable to

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Speaker 2: the Democrats. So it sounds like Gavin Newsom wins on

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Speaker 2: something the day may go a little better for him. Katie,

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Speaker 2: how are you are you aware of that by the

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court?

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Speaker 1: No, Ray, I wasn't. I hadn't heard that yet.

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Speaker 2: This will reject I mean, they rejected the last ditch

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Speaker 2: please from the state Republicans and the Trump administration. You know,

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Speaker 2: the Justice has had previously kind of gave a look

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Speaker 2: see at it, but we thought it was going to

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Speaker 2: go one direction, but it went another.

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Speaker 1: You know. On one hand, I'm really not that surprised though,

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Speaker 1: just because of the state's rights in you know, in

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Speaker 1: how they conduct elections, voting, et cetera. So I think

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Speaker 1: this will probably end up being litigated after the fact.

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Speaker 2: And what what do you think will happen then? I mean,

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Speaker 2: we don't have crystal balls. But what do you think

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Speaker 2: that's going to go? Yeah, litigated after the fact.

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Speaker 1: Because I think there's going to be a national push

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Speaker 1: at least for federal elections to have some I think

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Speaker 1: that's where it's going to go. So, you know, we

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Speaker 1: hope that this would have been decided with you know,

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Speaker 1: what you and I thought would have been the right

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Speaker 1: way this time. But I have a funny feeling there's

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Speaker 1: going to be some federal precedence that is set, as

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Speaker 1: I said, on federal elections that should indicate how states

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Speaker 1: also conduct their elections and congressional maps and and you

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Speaker 1: know census and all that.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're a California native, just like I'm a California native, Yes, sir. Now,

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Speaker 2: we've had a couple of terms of Governor Moonbeam, and

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Speaker 2: we've had a couple of terms of Gavin Newsom. Your

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Speaker 2: thoughts who did the most damage?

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Speaker 1: Well, I've always said that Jerry Brown is the one

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Speaker 1: that destroyed the state. But you know that's going back

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Speaker 1: to the seventies. In his first two terms, then he

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Speaker 1: came back with what I said, he was trying to

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Speaker 1: finish it off at the time, but nobody could have

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Speaker 1: seen what an incomp well, I won't even say incompetent boob,

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Speaker 1: because I think Gavin Newsom is probably one of them,

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Speaker 1: probably the most destructive governor we've ever seen in this state.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think it's due to incompetence. I think

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Speaker 1: it is deliberate. So Jerry might have set it all up.

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Speaker 1: But as I said in my article yesterday, Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 1: put on the after burners.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like that. And you know Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 2: and his claim of a poor childhood, from a poor childhood,

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Speaker 2: opening up a winery and now we understand even taking

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Speaker 2: money from his campaign to support that wine shop in

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Speaker 2: San Francisco. This is not good.

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Speaker 1: No, that that is that is so unethical. I'll even

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Speaker 1: just leave it at that. I'm not going to say

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Speaker 1: illegal because the Fair Political Practices Commission is supposed to

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Speaker 1: determine or you know, follow up on those kinds of charges.

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Speaker 1: But he appointed all the members, so we know that's

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Speaker 1: not going to go anywhere. But I think it shows

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Speaker 1: you a he's not the businessman he claims to be.

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Speaker 1: He's certainly not self made, since he opened up his

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Speaker 1: winery at age twenty five with getty money. And you know,

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Speaker 1: his claims of having to subsist on mac and cheese

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Speaker 1: he was so poor and sleeping on a couch as

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Speaker 1: and then I said, bam, then he opens a winery.

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Speaker 1: But no, it doesn't ad up. Plus, I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: too many photos of Gavin out there, you know that

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Speaker 1: that one of in his in his yearbook, the senior

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Speaker 1: in high school with a very excessive burbery burbery scarf

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Speaker 1: around snack, you know. And the thing that I point

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Speaker 1: out is I'm a few years older than Gavin, and

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Speaker 1: I knew poor kids growing up, and they were skinny,

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Speaker 1: It wasn't you know, package expensive packaged food. And I

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Speaker 1: mean his tail just doesn't. It never passes the smell test.

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Speaker 2: You know. And this one is so easily debunked. I

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Speaker 2: don't know how he can think I can get away

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I agree, and that when that's part

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Speaker 1: of why I wrote the article is that, you know,

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Speaker 1: of us when he ran for office. Gavin Newsom's life

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Speaker 1: is out there. There are news articles, magazine articles, tons

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Speaker 1: of photos of him, always growing up getty as has

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Speaker 1: a really diabolical human being he is, because he really

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Speaker 1: And you know, obviously the Vogue magazine was all too

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Speaker 1: happy to god to partake in the slobbering Love Affair

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Speaker 1: to steal from Bernie Goldberg's book.

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Speaker 2: Complete with a Nanny Liebowitch photo shoot. I mean they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, it's it's it's absolutely pathetic. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: you know. Vogue magazine has turned into a joke. They

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Speaker 1: everybody's right about it, which is what he wanted in

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Speaker 1: the first place. So you know, the truth, the reality

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Speaker 1: never matters to Gavin Newsom as long as he can

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Speaker 1: get out what he wants out at that moment in time.

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Speaker 2: What do you think spawned this? This Times Square billboard

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Speaker 2: in New York City comparing him to the the the Jets.

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Speaker 2: This was boy, I didn't see this coming.

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Speaker 1: Wow, pretty funny. Huh oh yeah, yeah, it's uh, well,

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Speaker 1: the organization that did it, the California Business and Industrial Alliance,

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Speaker 1: has had quite a good sparring with Gavin Newsom for

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Speaker 1: a long time. Their name tells you why. The Business

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Speaker 1: and Industrial Alliance, you know, they've been after Gavin since

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Speaker 1: AB five, you know, destroyed the giggee con you know,

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Speaker 1: the gig gig jobs and independent contractors. This was absolutely

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Speaker 1: delicious that they did that, and I love it. His

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Speaker 1: record is worse than the Jets. I had to include

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Speaker 1: And then below it ray I took that photo of

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Speaker 1: Yolo County yesterday, And my favorite, I think is even

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Speaker 1: my dog hates Scavin Newsom.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, when you know you've had a long time

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Speaker 2: to take a look at what he's done and what

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Speaker 2: he's not done, and when it comes to money that's

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Speaker 2: just flat missing. Can you run down that list? I'm

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Speaker 2: sure you're you're quite able to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is unbelievable. I mean, well, the most recent, frankly,

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Speaker 1: that was so deliberate. It makes me sick because what

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Speaker 1: the what they are ed D did under the California

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Speaker 1: Labor Agency is they lifted all the guard rails that

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Speaker 1: couldn't happen. So it's like double fraud. It makes it

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Speaker 1: even worse. Ray. So, I mean, there is so much

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Speaker 1: right the home. Where's the homeless money? Where's the thirty

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Speaker 1: seven billion that our legislative analyst has identified that you know,

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Speaker 1: we think has gone primarily to you know, NGOs and

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Speaker 1: nonprofit organizations that magically popped up. You know since since

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Speaker 1: Newsom's been governor. How about all the money that's gone

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Speaker 1: to the high speed rail scheme? Where is that There's

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Speaker 1: not a piece of track laid and yet billions are gone.

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Speaker 1: And I mean I refer to it as a you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a jobs program for union members as well as

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Speaker 1: a political consultant scam. And that seems to be what

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Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom UH has become an expert at, is lining

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Speaker 1: the pockets of the rent seekers in our state, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of them, unfortunately, are new to rent seeking.

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Speaker 1: There was absolutely you know, it's not like it's just

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Speaker 1: actually has a business. These are people that came out

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Speaker 2: Well, well, will the day ever come that he's going

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Speaker 2: to have to uh face up to a lot of this.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he just seems like it gets away with it,

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Speaker 2: gets away with it, gets away with it, gets away

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Speaker 2: with it. What's going to happen now before it hits

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Speaker 1: Well, certainly nothing's going to happen in California with our

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Speaker 1: corrupt attorney general. The corrupt Fair Political Practices Commission is

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Speaker 1: the only Yeah, the only two agencies that have any

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Speaker 1: ability to attempt to hold somebody accountable are the Legislative Analyst,

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Speaker 1: which you know they expose this stuff, and the State Auditor,

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that's a good example. You bring up

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Speaker 2: the Clintons, and I was going to bring them up

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Speaker 2: Clintons to sing a little bit, and maybe the same

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Speaker 2: type of thing needs to happen with this governor in

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Speaker 2: the state of California. We continue with our conversation with

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Speaker 2: Katie Gribes, editor of the California Globe, and we're talking

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Speaker 2: about the great pretender today, Gavin Newsom. It was the

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Speaker 2: noise of a majority of Democrats on the Oversight Committee

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Speaker 2: wanting to throw the book at the Clintons about Epstein

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Speaker 2: Epstein that got them to sing, got the mister and

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Speaker 2: missus Clinton to finally come to some sort of terms

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Speaker 2: to testify as to what their relationship was with this

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Speaker 2: dead pedophile. You know, it could possibly the same kind

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Speaker 2: of thing be happening. I don't know what it would

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Speaker 2: be in the future. To Gavin Newsom. I mean, he

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Speaker 2: thinks he owes every single Democrat in the world. And

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Speaker 2: if they start turning on him, and I think they are,

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Speaker 2: he's gonna he's not gonna make it. He's not going

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I hope you're right. Ray. I continue

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Speaker 1: to write exposing what he's done in this state. I

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Speaker 1: Newsom how to destroy California in two terms. And I've

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Speaker 1: got a list a mile long of if you were

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Speaker 1: somebody who was who was installed to destroy the state

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Speaker 1: of California, here's how you do it. And it is,

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Speaker 1: you know, everything from the fraud we were just discussing

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Speaker 1: know the mileage tax, the gas taxes, the billionaires taxing

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Speaker 1: their assets and everything. I mean, you just think about

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Speaker 1: you you would legalize drugs, decriminalize crimes, and then open

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Speaker 1: up the prisons. All these are things that he's done,

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Speaker 2: I think you're right. I really think you're right. You know.

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Speaker 2: And and when it comes to those aspirations, you know,

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Speaker 2: just like they're they're getting wise to this guy. Finally

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Speaker 2: they're getting wise that he's not He's not the fair

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Speaker 2: haired child that he makes himself out to be. He's

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Speaker 2: a big fat phony. And even in the book, you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean this, this it's a little thing not wanting

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Speaker 1: You know, if you're going to do your your your

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Speaker 1: on autobiography and not relinquish it to somebody to do

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Speaker 1: your biography. You're supposed to be taking a pretty hard

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Speaker 1: look at things, even you know, there's always there's always

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Speaker 1: a conscience. You know, it's the book is just insulting

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Speaker 1: that anybody would buy it. Also, it's you know, I

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Speaker 1: this Vogue article and his book. So this is obviously

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Speaker 1: just a very carefully constructed campaign to rewrite Gavin Newsom's history,

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Speaker 2: And I think because of Gavin Newsom's history, we're seeing

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Speaker 2: Steve Hilton do very very well. If I can switch

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Speaker 2: gears a little bit. Yeah, we said debate last night,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Steve is a good guy. I love him

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Speaker 2: Newsom to sort of hand him a lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be interesting? You know? I think what's so

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Speaker 1: what's wrong with the entire gubernatorial campaign right now, in

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, in recent days there's been a lot

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Speaker 2: of talk about comparing California to Minnesota, you know, and

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Speaker 2: we hear you know, some breathing that no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: that's in California. It's happened there. I wonder how far

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Speaker 1: Well, Congressman Kevin Kylie is like a dog with a

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Speaker 1: We've got the Susan Crabtree who wrote Fool's Gold along

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Speaker 1: mcfatter works with Peter Schweizer's so you know that's not

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Speaker 1: going to be left alone. There are journalists in our state.

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Speaker 1: We now have the California Post in our state, which

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Speaker 1: So I I think this next few months is going

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Speaker 2: And you just have to wonder how much at this

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Speaker 2: is going to be shot across How you know exactly

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Speaker 2: how much he's responsible for, obviously exactly.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and that's what I know. I prove in

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Speaker 1: my article today. These are all his policies, legalizing drugs,

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Speaker 1: He signed all those bills into law. He's authorized more

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Speaker 1: tribal gambling casinos, just you know, help destroy the public

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Speaker 1: education system. Uh, you know, with all this horror of

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Speaker 1: So I mean there's a long list of things that

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Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom's fingerprints are all over that he cannot run from.

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Speaker 2: Well, I look forward to you continuing to beat this

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Speaker 2: guy over the head with whatever he puts out there,

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Speaker 2: and let's uh, let's just you know, get rid of

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Speaker 2: him once and for all. And I think that the

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Speaker 2: beginning of the end is near. Katie, thanks for the

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Speaker 2: time today. I really appreciate it. And uh, tell everybody

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Speaker 2: how to find you.

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Speaker 1: I'm at Katie sex that has been on x Katie

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Speaker 1: Grimes on Facebook and California Globe dot com.

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Speaker 2: Beautiful, You're doing an amazing job. Thanks much, we'll talk

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Speaker 2: to you soon. Thanks Ray, take care, Katie Grimes on KMJ. Next,

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Speaker 2: a great congressman named McClintock