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Speaker 1: Welcome to Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. I'm Danel Daddigan. Thank you

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Speaker 1: all for joining us today. We're delving into the powers

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Speaker 1: of mind control, hypnosis, mentalism, and magic. Think about the

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Speaker 1: movies and the television shows that utilize plot lines that

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Speaker 1: include hypnosis or mind control to force their characters into fascinating, thrilling,

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Speaker 1: or unusual situations, sometimes with a love story thrown in.

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Speaker 1: The Powers of mind control, hypnosis, mentalism, and magic play

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Speaker 1: a key role in the stories behind several important films,

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Speaker 1: starting all the way from the nineteen twenties to today.

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Speaker 1: You know, from the nineteen twenties there was that famous

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Speaker 1: silent film, The Cabinet of Doctor Kalighari, starring Werner Krauss

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Speaker 1: and Conrad Vait. You know he played major Heinrich Strausser

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Speaker 1: in nineteen forty two's iconic film Casablanca. And then, of

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Speaker 1: course there's the nineteen fifty film noir Whirlpool and The

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Speaker 1: Janet Le Psycho you remember Psycho well, And in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and one there's that comedy fantasy film Shallow How

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Speaker 1: in twenty twelve, there was that fantasy horror film Dark

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Speaker 1: and featured in the television shows The Mentalist, psych The

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Speaker 1: original Dark Shadows. You know, hypnosis, mind control and mentalism

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Speaker 1: with magic thrown in can lead to some fascinating stories,

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Speaker 1: character developments, and plot twists, and they grant filmmakers and

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Speaker 1: You know, under hypnosis, mind control and the use of mentalism,

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Speaker 1: retreat've lost memories, or even view reality in a distorted

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Speaker 1: way without us the viewers, ever realizing it. You know,

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Speaker 1: perfect for plot twists. Then read herrings, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: protagonist is in a trance, it's still thrilling to witness

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Speaker 1: them slowly discover it. For themselves. Joining us this evening

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Speaker 1: are several award winning entertainers, actresses, celebrity mentalists, a hypnosis

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Speaker 1: they started out as actors and professionals, became a mentalist,

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Speaker 1: they sought out help from these professionals. With several award

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Speaker 1: winning actors going under their spell and to think they're

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Speaker 1: all in the biz, that show business. We're thrilled to

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Speaker 1: have with us here on Hollywoods Hidden Treasures. Several well

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Speaker 1: her audience in her shows as a hypnotist. One started

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Speaker 1: sold out audiences. One of our guests is in acting

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Speaker 1: and life coach with her following golden to all of

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Speaker 1: with us how they use the services of well known

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Speaker 1: Let's meet our guests joining us throughout the show the

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Speaker 1: well respected mentalist and magician Bernie Shine. You know, Bernie

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Speaker 1: Shine says, all of life is an illusion. You never

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Speaker 1: even see your own face, but rather only its reflection

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Speaker 1: with Hollywood celebrities. I mean there's Hollywood Scores, Peter Marshall,

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Speaker 1: ABC's entertainment guru, George Panacchio, film critic Leonard Malton, Philistillar,

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Speaker 1: Also joining us this evening will be Stephanie Kramer. She's

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Speaker 1: You know, Catherine is the award winning Juilliard trained acting

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Speaker 1: known for her deep connection to her students, whom she

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Speaker 1: and zaniness. Her politics is kindness and she inspires others

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Speaker 1: winning character Lindsay Rappaport on the daytime soap One Life

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Speaker 1: As a young teen, Catherine was first inspired by hypnosis

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Speaker 1: when she watched Pat Collins, the hip Hypnotist in movies

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Speaker 1: Catherine was completely fascinated by Pat and knew one day

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Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, Nevada. Well, Hi, Catherine, welcome to Hollywood's

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you. I think that this is going to

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Speaker 2: and I've been doing this for fifteen years. I've been

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Speaker 1: Can I ask you just one question straight out of

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Speaker 2: was a really funny thing and just unknowing. But I

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Speaker 2: also remember going to see, oddly enough, a Debbie Reynolds

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Speaker 2: It was called Divorce American Style, and Comes the hypnotist

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Speaker 2: of course, when I was a little girl that one

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Speaker 2: Nor did I know that one day I would grow

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Speaker 2: That's all I knew as a little girl. So when

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Speaker 2: I started study hypnosis about sixteen years ago, while I

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Speaker 2: just a way that could help people do something I loved.

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Speaker 2: I really didn't intend to take it to the stage.

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Speaker 1: Well, now I'm just going to jump in here because

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Speaker 1: will in our next segment. So also in this studio

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Speaker 1: today is our Hollywood Museum's publicist, Roger Neil Hey, Roger.

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Speaker 3: Good Evening, Danelle.

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Speaker 1: shows at Hollywood's official museum. The Hollywood Museum showcasing ten

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Speaker 1: and when we return, we'll continue our conversation with Catherine Hickland.

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Speaker 1: She played Lindsay Rappaport for twelve years on the award

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Hollywoods Hidden Treasures. I'm Denel Daddigan. Joining

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Speaker 1: us once again is Catherine Hickland. You know Lindsey Rappaport

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Speaker 1: a certified hypnotherapist with sold out shows nationwide. Well, Hi, Catherine, Hey.

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Speaker 2: I hearing all that old music and seeing your amazing

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Speaker 1: with me as a youngster, you're fascination with your favorite hypnotist.

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Speaker 2: I saw her when I was a little girl on television.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Well, let's go back in time a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just incredible because I'm thinking to myself, what

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Speaker 2: And funny not in a way that would humiliate anyone,

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Speaker 2: Or well? I'm not going to ever betray a confidence,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, you're listening to Hollywoods Hidden Treasures. I'm going

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: You know I have to ask this question. So when

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Speaker 2: I have many many times. That is a big one

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Speaker 1: Talking about a bad relationship with cigarettes.

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Speaker 2: I would be honored to because I myself, I'm a

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Speaker 2: But the most important part of that equation is that

431
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Speaker 2: he wants to quit, and you're halfway home. If you

432
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Speaker 2: want to quit, you're halfway home. If you're quitting for

433
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Speaker 2: somebody else, it's not good. You have to want it

434
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Speaker 2: for yourself, and he does. I can tell this by

435
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Speaker 2: the fact that he asks.

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Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely, you see these commercial breaks are good for

437
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Speaker 1: many different things. Well kel, yeah, yeah. So if you

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Speaker 1: could share a few words to someone listening who may

439
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Speaker 1: think they have this gift, what would your advice be

440
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Speaker 1: to them? What would you say?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think that it's science and art

442
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Speaker 2: and you can learn it. I've taught people. I have

443
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Speaker 2: a training theater here in Las Vegas for all kinds

444
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Speaker 2: of reasons for personal development. But I think, you know,

445
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Speaker 2: people should know that the gift is wanting to do this.

446
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 2: I mean, doing it for therapy is very different from

447
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Speaker 2: doing it for stage, and you have to know, you know,

448
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Speaker 2: why do you want to do it like anything else?

449
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Speaker 2: Like what is your end goal for me? You know,

450
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Speaker 2: I've been an entertainer my whole life, so taking it

451
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Speaker 2: to stage was not anything unusual. But I enjoy hypnotherapy

452
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Speaker 2: as much as I enjoy performing it because I love

453
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Speaker 2: people and I love helping. Everybody has the ability to

454
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Speaker 2: change something in their life. We are simply the guide

455
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Speaker 2: and if anyone's out there thinking, gosh, you know, I

456
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Speaker 2: would really like to explore that then take a weekend

457
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Speaker 2: wonder class and just that's just like something that would

458
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Speaker 2: be I went to school, you know, but I but

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Speaker 2: I did first with I took a three day course

460
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Speaker 2: to see if it's anything I wanted to invest not

461
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Speaker 2: only my time but my money and especially my time

462
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Speaker 2: because it took quite a bit because I really wanted

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Speaker 2: to be good at what I did. But first I

464
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Speaker 2: wanted to know if that's something I I was really

465
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Speaker 2: interested before I invested my time my finances. Is it's

466
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Speaker 2: something I was really going to like. So I suggest

467
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Speaker 2: people do that. And of course, if anybody you know

468
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Speaker 2: wants to ask me anything about that, you can go

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Speaker 2: to my website, which is Katherine Hickland dot com. That's

470
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Speaker 2: the Captain of the Sea and there's a place that

471
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Speaker 2: says connect and I'm the only person that actually sees

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Speaker 2: those emails. Wow, So I would you know, I'd love

473
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Speaker 2: to hear from anybody if they're, you know, wanting to

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Speaker 2: take this path and wanting advice.

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Speaker 5: About her to do that. I'm happy to do that because.

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Speaker 2: I would have loved to have that when I first

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Speaker 2: started looking into.

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Speaker 1: It, Well, That's why I'm asking you this question now, Catherine,

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Speaker 1: think back, not too far back, but think back. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you've had some crazy, freaky things happened during your shows.

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Speaker 1: What's the craziest and wildest things that have happened during

482
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Speaker 1: your shows? You've got to tell us about it. I

483
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Speaker 1: know there's a couple of them. Tell us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's just every once in a while,

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Speaker 2: more often than I'd care to tell you. I think

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Speaker 2: the funniest thing this is crazy and funny because at

487
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Speaker 2: the end of my show, my last routine. It's kind

488
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Speaker 2: of my signature piece. And so you know, I tell people.

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Speaker 2: People ask me a lot of questions after a show,

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Speaker 2: and the one that I get a lot is what's

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Speaker 2: it like to date a hypnotist? So it's easier for

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Speaker 2: me to show you than to tell you. And so

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Speaker 2: that's my last routine, and I hypnotize just the men

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Speaker 2: on stage, and that I tell them, you know, they're

495
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Speaker 2: going to be in love with me, and I'm you know, whoever,

496
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Speaker 2: they whoever they want me to be in their imagination,

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Speaker 2: and I'm going to come to them and one at

498
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Speaker 2: a time and put my hand out ask them to dance.

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Speaker 2: They'll take that dance.

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Speaker 1: In front of the audience this wow.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah. And then I tell the women they're just

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Speaker 2: going to remain resting and relaxing with their eyes closed.

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Speaker 2: And when I snap my fingers, the men's eyes all open.

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Speaker 2: It's really quite a beautiful choreography, you know, it really is.

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Speaker 2: And I go to them one at a time and

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Speaker 2: I ask them to dance, and I have this beautiful

507
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Speaker 2: music playing and we slow dance, and then at any

508
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Speaker 2: given point, I just whisper sleep in their ear and

509
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Speaker 2: they fall back. I have a stage assistant that catches them,

510
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Speaker 2: so nobody gets hurt. And it's a beautiful, beautiful routine.

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Speaker 2: Just a beautiful routine. And they do different things with

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Speaker 2: each one of them. But almost every every year I

513
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Speaker 2: will have like three times a year where somebody gets

514
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Speaker 2: excited in that state because remember I said, I'm whoever

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Speaker 2: you want me to be, so you know.

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Speaker 1: That they want to be they want you to be,

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 2: And they get excited. And then then the audience, well

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Speaker 2: I notice it on stage because when they're on their

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Speaker 2: back on the stage, it's like the circus is in town,

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Speaker 2: if you know what I mean. And I knew i'd

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Speaker 2: get you on that one because it's true and it

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Speaker 2: is just like you know, oh no, So if you

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Speaker 2: want to know the craziest thing, that's always it. It

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Speaker 2: never gets old.

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Speaker 1: I just oh, okay, well that's the man. Now, Now

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Speaker 1: what do you have for the women. What's a fun story?

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Speaker 2: You know, one time when I was first starting out there,

529
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Speaker 2: there was a woman when I say, I'm a teacher.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm your first grade teacher. You're five years old,

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Speaker 2: you're in class. You really hate me. I'm super mean.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's just an a little old routine that

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Speaker 2: I did in the very beginning. And then I said,

534
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Speaker 2: but you know, I usually everything's so literal to a

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Speaker 2: mind that's in trance. So I would always say, at

536
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Speaker 2: no time will you hit, hurt, pinch, kick, or molest

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Speaker 2: the teacher in any way, no matter how much you

538
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Speaker 2: get her, you know, because you have to be very

539
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Speaker 2: specific when you're giving suggestions. It's the mind is so literal.

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Speaker 2: So I forgot to add that line. And so I say,

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Speaker 2: every time I turn my back to you, you just

542
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Speaker 2: hate me. You make funny faces, you do whatever it

543
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Speaker 2: is kids do in their imagination, you know. But don't

544
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Speaker 2: let me catch you. So when I turn around, it

545
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Speaker 2: all the settles down. So I did this, and I

546
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Speaker 2: forgot to load the suggestion that they wouldn't hurt me

547
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Speaker 2: in anyway. So when TRUMP back to the audience, one

548
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Speaker 2: of the women she had done the hot cold routine

549
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Speaker 2: and she had taken her letter off and just was

550
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Speaker 2: sitting there in her bra. This is a few routines earlier.

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Speaker 2: And of course that fred freaked me out because I

552
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Speaker 2: realized that this is when I first started. You have

553
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Speaker 2: to be literal and say everything you need to say.

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Speaker 2: So the same woman we got her bra back on

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Speaker 2: and the audience was laughing, and I was like, this

556
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Speaker 2: isn't funny. You damn kids, don't you know what I mean?

557
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Speaker 2: I would turn into my mother because I was so

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Speaker 2: protective of her and the teacher.

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Speaker 1: One.

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Speaker 2: What happened was she got out of her chair when

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Speaker 2: I turned my back and faced the audience, and she

562
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Speaker 2: was going to knock my lights out. She was a

563
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Speaker 2: big lady, and she was going to punch my lights

564
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Speaker 2: out in the audience. I saw them react in a

565
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Speaker 2: way that shouldn't have been the way they were reacting.

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Speaker 2: So when I turned around, she had her fist back.

567
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Speaker 2: She was about to clock me, and I just yelled

568
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Speaker 2: sleep and she went right down to the floor and

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Speaker 2: I barely gaped getting my life's punched out.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Mikeaus Well, Catherine, I have to tell you, this

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Speaker 1: segment has just gone by so quick. It's been any pleasure.

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Speaker 2: And I had a great time me too. Thank you well.

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Speaker 1: In our final moments together, Joy, thank you. And in

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Speaker 1: our final moments together, just tell our audience how they

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Speaker 1: can follow you and where are you performing next? Where's

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Speaker 1: your next performance?

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Speaker 2: I will be at the Composer's Room in Las Vegas

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Speaker 2: May twenty second. It will be up on my website

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Speaker 2: in the next few days. So that is where I

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Speaker 2: will be in Las Vegas May twenty second, and then

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Speaker 2: I will have my other appearances there. I'm just getting

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Speaker 2: to put my calendar up. It's early in the year,

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Speaker 2: but May twenty second, I will be here in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: But that is a mentalism show and it's going to

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Speaker 2: be amazing. It's never been done what I'm about to

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Speaker 2: do with it, so it's really fun.

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Speaker 1: Listeners one more time your website so they know where

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Speaker 1: they're going.

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Speaker 2: Catherine with the see Catherine Hickland hickla dot com and

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Speaker 2: I will have my schedule up there in the next

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Speaker 2: few days. They're just an agent's just pulling it together

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Speaker 2: now and I would love to see you and love

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Speaker 2: to meet you, and please if you want to connect,

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Speaker 2: you can write me there as well.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 1: Fabulous. Well, you know, Katherine, I have to thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for joining us today. We all loved your stories.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing.

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Speaker 2: You're welcome, and everybody out there just know the power

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Speaker 2: of your mind is absolutely amazing, and your intuition even so.

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Speaker 2: So you know, just understand that you can change your

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Speaker 2: life to whatever you want it to be. And I

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Speaker 2: really do believe that. And everyone, have a fantastic rest

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Speaker 2: of the year.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you. Well, you know, we

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Speaker 1: have to take a quick break. You're listening to Hollywood

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Speaker 1: Hidden Treasures. I'm Danelle Daddigan and when we return, we'll

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Speaker 1: be speaking with the award winning Juilliard Trade acting life

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Speaker 1: coach Katherine Hart. She currently appears with her sister Morgan

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Speaker 1: Fairchild in the podcast Two Bitches from Texas. Be sure

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Speaker 1: to listen in as we ask how Katherine Hart made

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Speaker 1: her dreams come true, So stay tuned. To Hollywoods Hidden Treasures.

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Speaker 1: We've got lots to talk about. Welcome back, you're listening

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Speaker 1: to Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. I'm Danelle Daddigan and joining us

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Speaker 1: now is the award winning Julliard trained acting life coach

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Speaker 1: Katherine Hart. She currently appears with her sister Morgan Fairchild

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Speaker 1: in the podcast Well Wait for It, Two Bitches from Texas.

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Speaker 1: We have to ask Katherine all about this. Well, Hi, Catherine,

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Speaker 1: welcome to Hollywood's Hidden Treasures.

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Speaker 7: Hi.

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Speaker 8: I'm so glad you said the name of my podcast

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Speaker 8: instead of me, because I was afraid you'd censor me

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Speaker 8: if I said it.

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Speaker 1: Well, now let me tell you. You get to say it,

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Speaker 1: and you get to tell us how did that name

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Speaker 1: come to be?

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Speaker 8: Well, you know, you said Morgan Fairchild, and we're really

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Speaker 8: close and we're actually from Texas. I still live in

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Speaker 8: Texas and I coach acting here and Morgan's in LA

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Speaker 8: and we've always wanted to do something together because you know,

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Speaker 8: we used to act together. We have it for a

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Speaker 8: long time because no one has a project for us,

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Speaker 8: So we just said, you know what instead of just

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Speaker 8: yick yaking on the phone. Because every Sunday we have

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Speaker 8: girl chat and we talked for about an hour and

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Speaker 8: a half or two hours. Anybody that has a sister

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Speaker 8: you love, you know exactly what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: And we're very eclectic.

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Speaker 8: We talk about like everything like you do with your sisters.

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Speaker 8: And we said, wouldn't it be fun if we did

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Speaker 8: a podcast. We just get to sit around and you

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Speaker 8: already said the words, so I'll say it. We get

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Speaker 8: to sit around a bitch about all the stuff.

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Speaker 4: That's going on in the world.

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Speaker 1: But it's positive.

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Speaker 8: And honestly, let me tell you why we call it

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Speaker 8: two bitches, because you are a woman. You will understand this.

648
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Speaker 8: Most of the time people think of a woman as

649
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Speaker 8: either being a booby head or a bit They very

650
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 8: rarely say, look at that smart, clever woman who just

651
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Speaker 8: beat me out of my deal.

652
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Speaker 1: You were a bitch if.

653
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Speaker 8: You did that, And I would much rather be called

654
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Speaker 8: a bitch than a boobyhead. So it was really Morgan's idea. Well,

655
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Speaker 8: I mean, we could have called it too old farts

656
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Speaker 8: sitting around talked it.

657
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Speaker 2: But when we called it two bitches.

658
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Speaker 1: And I can hear your sister saying it too with

659
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Speaker 1: a smile on her face, So it's all good.

660
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Speaker 8: Oh, yeah, well you're going through Nainson And when she

661
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 8: threw that out as a joke and everybody got real quiet.

662
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Speaker 8: Our producer was sitting there listening and he will, oh,

663
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Speaker 8: I don't know if you can say that, and Morgan

664
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Speaker 8: and I said, oh, if you're saying that, we've got

665
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Speaker 8: to call it that.

666
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Speaker 1: You know, it's so interesting. Now I want to say

667
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Speaker 1: for our listeners, you are an award winning Julliard trained

668
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Speaker 1: acting and life coach and your clients include Debbie Ryan,

669
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Speaker 1: Jas Sinclair, Leah Hayes, Hunter Parish, Courtney Hope, all these

670
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Speaker 1: young people, and it's kind of interesting. What advice do

671
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Speaker 1: you give your clients in general to encourage them?

672
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Speaker 8: I always tell people, first of all, I never look

673
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 8: to see if people have talent. I really look to

674
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Speaker 8: see if my students love to evolve, because if you

675
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Speaker 8: love to evolve, and that's part of what drives you,

676
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 8: you will keep going until you get something done, and

677
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 8: you will grow spiritually and being in you know, every

678
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 8: other way you can. And having said that, the main

679
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 8: thing I really teach people, honestly, if I had to

680
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 8: put it into one sentence, is I teach people to

681
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Speaker 8: believe in themselves and you have to. If you don't

682
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Speaker 8: believe in yourself, why would anyone else. So that is

683
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Speaker 8: sometime number one step number one. And if you do

684
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Speaker 8: believe in yourself, you can kind of do anything.

685
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Speaker 1: Really, I love it well, you know for our listeners,

686
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Speaker 1: we chatted about it earlier that your first student is

687
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Speaker 1: your sister, Morgan Fairchild. So you know, I have to

688
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: ask you, what advice did you give your sister.

689
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Speaker 8: You're laughing, Okay, I am laughing because, okay, I'll tell

690
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Speaker 8: you my favorite I gave her. But honestly, at first,

691
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Speaker 8: the way I started coaching her is I went to

692
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Speaker 8: Juilliard and I would come back to Dallas for the

693
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Speaker 8: summer and she was doing a play.

694
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Speaker 1: She's doing Dracula.

695
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Speaker 8: Oh wow. And she said, hey, Tech, will you come

696
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Speaker 8: and watch me and take some notes of some of

697
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 8: the stuff you learned at Juilliard? And I thought, Now,

698
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Speaker 8: I'm at Juilliard and you get like twenty people a

699
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 8: year that go into that place, and so I'm used

700
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Speaker 8: to working with people who are supposedly at the top

701
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Speaker 8: of their talent. So I thought, hmm, I will just

702
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Speaker 8: take all these notes for Morgan, and I will take

703
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Speaker 8: speak notes and I will take tex notes, and I

704
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Speaker 8: will take.

705
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Speaker 4: How to build a character notes, and I will just take.

706
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Speaker 8: Every note in the entire world all through the show,

707
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Speaker 8: and I will give her this pad, and seeing how

708
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Speaker 8: fast people assimily stuck at Juilliard the top of the top, apparently,

709
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Speaker 8: I will see if she will pick one or two

710
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 8: of these things to do and she can work on those.

711
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Speaker 8: So then she says, don't come back to closing night,

712
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Speaker 8: and I go back closing night. She's done every single

713
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Speaker 8: one of the notes. I what, that's the way more

714
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Speaker 8: learned any rate said she was a very good student.

715
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Speaker 8: But I have to say the most powerful advice I

716
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Speaker 8: ever gave her was right after our mom and dad died.

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Speaker 8: You know, when that happens, you don't have a good

718
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Speaker 8: memory and you're kind of weird and wacky. She had

719
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Speaker 8: to do a play and she has kind of a

720
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Speaker 8: photographic memory, but she was terrified she's going to forget

721
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Speaker 8: all of her lines because she sort of wiped out

722
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Speaker 8: when you lose both of your parents. So I usually

723
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Speaker 8: coach her when she does plays and stuff, so but

724
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Speaker 8: usually after every night I leave. But we decided I

725
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 8: would stay in every night before first act. I would

726
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Speaker 8: go over the lines with her, and before the second

727
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 8: act at intermission, I would go to the lines with

728
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Speaker 8: her and make sure that she felt safe every time she.

729
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Speaker 5: Went on stage.

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Speaker 8: Okay, so open Mike. One of the other actresses who

731
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 8: was a TV actress. We grew up in the theater,

732
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Speaker 8: so we know, like you, you know what it is

733
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Speaker 8: to do theater. Well, apparently it just occurred to her

734
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Speaker 8: she was going to have to do this show every night,

735
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Speaker 8: and she just said, I can't do this and do TV.

736
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Speaker 8: We rehearsed it and we shoot it and we're done,

737
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Speaker 8: and she wouldn't come out of her dressing room to start.

738
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Speaker 8: And Morgan is supposed to start the show with her,

739
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Speaker 8: and she's standing backstage and they're trying to get this

740
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Speaker 8: girl out of the dressing room and Morgan looks at me.

741
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Speaker 8: She says, oh my god, Catherine, I've forgotten everything, at

742
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Speaker 8: which point the girl comes out of the dressing room

743
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Speaker 8: and says, I'm ready. Let's start the show. And they

744
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 8: say curtains up, and I look at Morgan. I grab

745
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Speaker 8: her by both shoulders, I shake her ferociously and I say, Morgan, stilly, stilly, stilly,

746
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Speaker 8: And she said thanks, I'm Okay now, and she went

747
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Speaker 8: on to page that's my best advice I gave her.

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Speaker 1: That's just wild. You know, you just got to run

749
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Speaker 1: with it. Yes, yes, and you know I was going

750
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Speaker 1: to ask about pep talks, but I have a feeling

751
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Speaker 1: that your Sunday morning conversations are like pep talks that

752
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Speaker 1: you both have together.

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Speaker 8: Well, you know that that's kind of who we both are.

754
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 8: We're both real positive and our podcast is about that too.

755
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 8: We believe in kindness, you know, helping other people, being generous,

756
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 8: be good. And yes, you can still be a celebrity

757
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 8: star and still be the same child that your mama

758
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 8: raised you to be and Morgan always has been. And

759
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Speaker 8: so that's kind of who we are. We're about kindness.

760
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Speaker 8: I always say, you know, we see each other up together.

761
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Speaker 8: Then I think everybody does, you know, don't we need

762
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Speaker 8: that today in the world.

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Speaker 1: There were a day absolutely well, friend, Now you've personally

764
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Speaker 1: had hypnosis performed on you. I understand you were using

765
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Speaker 1: hypnosis to do with several traumas in your life. Can

766
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Speaker 1: you talk about it?

767
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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I didn't go out and say hypnosis

768
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 8: is a good thing. Kind of stumbled on it, and

769
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Speaker 8: this well, this is actually a while back. It was

770
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Speaker 8: in the late nineties and I was married to my

771
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Speaker 8: last husband.

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Speaker 4: We were sort of getting a divorce.

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Speaker 8: And mom and dad. I just realized that Mom's health

774
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Speaker 8: was really, really bad and she was having these little

775
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 8: tiast strokes, and I found out during the hypnosis that

776
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 8: actually both of my parents were in the process of dying,

777
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Speaker 8: and so I moved back to Dallas to take care

778
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Speaker 8: of them. Any rate, I decided I'm going to get

779
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Speaker 8: a divorce. I moved back to Dallas to take care

780
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Speaker 8: of my mom and dad. My husband I was divorcing

781
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 8: good parts too, so he said, I'll pay for everything.

782
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Speaker 8: And I had a childhood trauma that I.

783
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Speaker 9: Had thought I dealt with about.

784
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Speaker 8: It was, you know, wearing its ugly head, and I

785
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 8: was just really stressed. And my husband said, all right,

786
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Speaker 8: kat I found you this special person in Dallas, and

787
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Speaker 8: you're gonna go see this guy. And my husband was Jewish,

788
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 8: and so he's like, he's a good jew so he'll

789
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Speaker 8: take care of him. Like, okay, I don't know what

790
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Speaker 8: that means, but okay. So I go in and I

791
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Speaker 8: didn't really know what to expect, and I thought, you know,

792
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Speaker 8: what is my ex husband. No, He's like, nah, huhm.

793
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 8: And I go in and this lovely gentleman did something

794
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Speaker 8: I didn't really know what it was going to be.

795
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Speaker 8: I think most people think hygnosis, like you see someone

796
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Speaker 8: on the stage doing things they didn't mean to do

797
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 8: because they don't know they're doing this. Someone made them

798
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Speaker 8: do it. But it's not like that. I went in

799
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Speaker 8: in this very kind, beautiful human being sat me down

800
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Speaker 8: and he basically just kind of talks me through very

801
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 8: relaxing it sort of like walk in the woods by

802
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 8: a beautiful creek or going to the side of mountains

803
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 8: and talking to God, and he just gets you into

804
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 8: that place. You just get very calm and relaxed, like

805
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 8: if you went into a very deep meditation and you

806
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 8: just get to this really relaxed place. And I remember

807
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Speaker 8: the first time I thought he doesn't know I'm not

808
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 8: really under because I'm still thinking I.

809
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Speaker 1: Was going to ask this question, yes you don't.

810
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Speaker 8: I was thinking, hmmm, does he know that I still

811
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 8: hear everything you sing and I know what's going on.

812
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 8: And then he talks to me through all this stuff.

813
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 8: And then when I came out, and then I thought,

814
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Speaker 8: I think I can go deal with stuff. So I

815
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Speaker 8: booked another appointment immediately, And that's more what it is

816
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 8: to me. It allows you to sort of go places

817
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 8: you're afraid to go alone, you know, and just made

818
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Speaker 8: me feel safe and relaxed enough to deal with whatever's there.

819
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Speaker 8: I honestly don't think that you ever deal with something

820
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 8: that you're really not ready to deal with anytime. Your

821
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 8: mind just won't let you go there. But if it's

822
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Speaker 8: something that you're ready to deal with, or you just

823
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 8: need to stop spinning and so slow down and just breathe.

824
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Speaker 8: And honestly, it's a lot like what I do with

825
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Speaker 8: some acting students, because in order to act, you do

826
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Speaker 8: kind of a form of self hypnosis. And I actually

827
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Speaker 8: use the tone of voice that that lovely man used

828
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Speaker 8: with me that really helped me to just calm down

829
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Speaker 8: and let go very very quickly. I would highly recommend

830
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Speaker 8: it to know in this day and age, don't you

831
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Speaker 8: run into people that are just dressed out like crazy

832
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Speaker 8: all the time.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, this is the perfect moment for me

834
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Speaker 1: to jump in and say, I cannot believe how quickly

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Speaker 1: this segment went by it So, Catherine, it's been a

836
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Speaker 1: real pleasure having you, Catherine Hart here on Hollywoods Hidden

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Speaker 1: Treasures in our final moments together. Please tell our listeners

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Speaker 1: how they can follow you and your podcast.

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Speaker 8: Oh well, it's an easy name to remember. Just get

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Speaker 8: to Bitches from Texas and we're on Spotify, YouTube, Apple,

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Speaker 8: any place to get your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's just fabulous. Well, Katherine, I can't thank you

843
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Speaker 1: enough for joining us today. We all loved your stories

844
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Speaker 1: and I thank you for sharing them and being so open. Well,

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Speaker 1: when we return, joining us is Stephanie Kramer. You know

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Speaker 1: her for her starring role is that tough minded detective

847
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Speaker 1: Sergeant d. D. McCall on the popular NBCTV crime drama

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Speaker 1: series Hunter. Stephanie is going to chat with us about

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Speaker 1: her career and hypnosis. We're listening to Hollywood's Sidden Treasures

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Speaker 1: and we've got lots to talk about. Welcome back, you're

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Speaker 1: listening to Hollywoods Hidden Treasures. I'm Denel Daddigan. We know

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Speaker 1: Stephanie Kramer for her starring role as the tough minded

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Speaker 1: detective Sergeant D. D. McCall on the popular NBCTV crime

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Speaker 1: drama series Hunter that became a major international hit, and

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Speaker 1: the young lady that we're going to speak with I

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Speaker 1: love that young lady. That's fabulous. Well, we know Stephanie Kramer,

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Speaker 1: and Stephanie's fan base spans the globe, and Stephanie is

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Speaker 1: truly much more than a popular actress. She was trained

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Speaker 1: early on as a powerful and unique singer. She is

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Speaker 1: a mezzo soprano, and her first CD one Dream showcases

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Speaker 1: her talents as a singer, composer, and lyricist. And for me,

862
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: this is something new because I remember her on Hunter

863
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: and I just thought, Wow, this lady is one. Can

864
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: I say it? Kick ass? Broad Wow? You know I

865
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: have to tell you. TV Guide's nineteen eighty eight national

866
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Speaker 1: poll named Stephanie Kramer as one of the most beautiful

867
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: women in the history of television. And you know, today

868
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: Stephanie will share with us how she used hypnosis in

869
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: her adult life. But Stephanie, it's a pleasure to have you,

870
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: and I'm just overwhelmed with all that you have accomplished.

871
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 5: Oh Donella, that's so sweet of you.

872
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 4: I'm happy to join you. I truly am well.

873
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 1: I think it's so exciting. I'm a nice I'll see

874
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: you on the TV show Hunter. I mean, with your

875
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: badge with the gun with the whole nine yards, oh

876
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: my goodness. And running, wow, a lot of running, a

877
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: lot of hair and it was fabulous. Yes, I remember

878
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: the eighties, Oh my god.

879
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 4: It was giant, frizzy hair and way too much makeup

880
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 4: and shoulder pads so you didn't have a neck. Really,

881
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 4: the jacket came out of your ears, you know.

882
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: And let me tell you, Stephanie, all of us that

883
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: were watching you on TV, we all wanted to be you.

884
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: So there you go.

885
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness.

886
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: Okay, So you know, today we're talking about various forms

887
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: of hypnosis and mentalism. So may I ask what interested

888
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: you about hypnosis?

889
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 4: Well, you know, my first introduction to hypnosis was back

890
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 4: when I was still a teenager. There was a lady

891
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 4: out here in LA.

892
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: Her name was Pat Colin.

893
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 4: Oh yes, he was called the Hip Hypnotis and I'm

894
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 4: trying to remember. I think the name of the place

895
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 4: where she would have her shows was that Celebrity Club

896
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 4: on Sunset down West Hollywood.

897
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, there you go.

898
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 4: That's right, that's right. So a group of us, we're teenagers,

899
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 4: and we would go and it was always incredibly entertaining

900
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 4: and quite funny. So I went there once with my

901
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 4: boyfriend and all these other kids, and he goes, you

902
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 4: should go up there, and I'm.

903
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 9: Like, na, I don't like to go up there.

904
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 4: He goes, no, no, no, and he grabbed my arm and

905
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 4: threw it up. You know.

906
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 5: It was like, oh, thank you so much.

907
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: So she goes, yeah, come.

908
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 4: On up here, darling. So I went up and that

909
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 4: was my first introduction, and I found out that I

910
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 4: was quite easily hypnotized, and it was just funny and entertaining.

911
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 4: And you're up there voluntarily, and it's not like somebody

912
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 4: has like some sort of complete power over you or something.

913
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 4: Some people are quite afraid of it because they think

914
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 4: I won't be in control. But nothing can happen to

915
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 4: you that you don't allow to happen to you.

916
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 6: Yeah.

917
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: Yes, So when you went to a hypnotist, did you

918
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: go for a one time visit or was it repeated visit.

919
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 4: I wound up not going to a hypnotist for a

920
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 4: specific issue. I did not have to quit smoking or drinking,

921
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 4: or you know, people lose weight, or fear of driving

922
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 4: over a bridge or all of those sorts of things.

923
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 4: It happened where I had a friend who had studied

924
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 4: to be a hypnotist. There were three of us gals.

925
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 4: We went away for a vacation to Mexico, and one

926
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 4: night she said, hey, why don't I just hypnotize you

927
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 4: each other? You know, see what happened. So she did

928
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 4: our one friend first, and it was quite interesting, and

929
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 4: she said, okay, now she was going to hypnotize me.

930
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 4: And the thing that was so wild about it. I

931
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 4: suddenly found myself in this altered state. I was in

932
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 4: an ancient city in Europe. I was standing and looking

933
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,919
Speaker 4: at this beautiful city at the edge of a river

934
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 4: where there was this quite a gorgeous bridge that spanned

935
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 4: this river. It was at night, and there were two

936
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 4: young men, boys really like eighteen nineteen year olds, and

937
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 4: they were dressed in black military uniforms, and they were

938
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 4: smoking cigarettes and talking. And I was observing them, and

939
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 4: I knew, well, you were under while I was under,

940
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 4: completely under. Yeah, I'm in Mexico, I wasn't in Europe.

941
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 4: On watching some young men on a bridge, I got transported.

942
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: To another life. Wow.

943
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,439
Speaker 4: And some people don't believe in that, but I certainly do.

944
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 4: And I'm looking at these two young men and as

945
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 4: I started to speak, I was saying in my mind

946
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 4: that that was my son and he was going to war,

947
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 4: and I was very upset about it. But I wasn't

948
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 4: speaking English. I started speaking in fluent German.

949
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: Wow. And did you actually speak German in real life?

950
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 4: No?

951
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 5: Are you kidding?

952
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 4: I speak German and I was beginning German, you know,

953
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:04,439
Speaker 4: except dunka. And actually I became very upset and quite agitated.

954
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 4: I remember I was saying, this is my child and

955
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 4: he's going to be.

956
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 1: Killed in this war.

957
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 4: Oh wow, and that it was a very fearful memory

958
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 4: that apparently, for whatever reason, had to be reintegrated psychologically

959
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 4: or dimensionally, whatever you want to say. And I became

960
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 4: so upset and just talking and talking in German that

961
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 4: finally she brought me out of it because I was

962
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 4: just so distraught.

963
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: So let me ask you question. When you were brought

964
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: out of it. Did she snap her fingers or was

965
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 1: there a special word that was uttered? How did that happen?

966
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 7: Yeah?

967
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 4: I believe she just talked and said, OK, you know,

968
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 4: I want you to hear my voice, and I'm an

969
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 4: account from whatever number from five to one or something,

970
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 4: and when I get to one, you will be fully

971
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 4: returned into your body. You will be aware, conscious of

972
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,959
Speaker 4: this reality where we are here today, that sort of thing.

973
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 4: I'm paraphrasing because it was quite some time ago. But

974
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 4: when that happened, I mean, they're looking at me and

975
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 4: my one friend said, I didn't know you spoke German,

976
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 4: and I said, well, I don't.

977
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:11,280
Speaker 1: Wow.

978
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 4: So the hypnosis took me into a different realm.

979
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: Did you ever feel like you were under a spell

980
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: or was it just the most natural thing for you

981
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: when you were being him?

982
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 4: There was no spell, there was no something like that. No,

983
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 4: it was just a natural doorway opened up for me.

984
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 4: And the thing that's interesting about this is that about

985
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 4: a month or two later, I was visiting my mother,

986
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 4: who had come back from a long trip throughout Europe,

987
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 4: and she had, you know, eighteen thousand and four by

988
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 4: six photographs, you know how you used to come back

989
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 4: with all the pictures, And so I'm sitting there looking

990
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 4: at them and talking to her, and all of a

991
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 4: sudden I come upon this picture and I was like,

992
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 4: where is this and she said, well, that's Prague and

993
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 4: it was exactly what it was I saw when I

994
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 4: was under hypnosis.

995
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm getting shivers. Oh my goodness, Stephanie, Wow, I have

996
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: ships that city.

997
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 4: It was the bridge everything. I said, Oh my god,

998
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 4: this was what I was looking at when I was

999
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 4: under hypnosis.

1000
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: So let me ask you, because I think I gathered

1001
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: you didn't do this alone. There was a girlfriend or

1002
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: someone else that was with you.

1003
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 4: There were three of us. We were on a Gallas vacation,

1004
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 4: and one of them was studying to be a hypnotic regressionist.

1005
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 4: I guess, oh, wow, that was a very pronounced session,

1006
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 4: I would say, and totally unexpected. So I think hypnosis

1007
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 4: allows for people if they're open and receptive and not

1008
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 4: in fear, not lockdown and holding on. You know, if

1009
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 4: you can relax and be open to the journey that

1010
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 4: it can offer you, you can overcome and or let

1011
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 4: go of certain soul memories that you still carry around

1012
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 4: in your cellular structure or your higher consciousness that you

1013
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 4: still haven't integrated or let go of and clear. I

1014
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 4: think that is what happened in my session, you know,

1015
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 4: completely unexpected, and I was still carrying the trauma and

1016
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 4: the grief of losing my son at this time in

1017
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 4: history to a war. Wow, that means it's profound.

1018
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: More than profound, I mean, it's it's chilling, but the

1019
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: life lessons that we learn from this inadvertently, it's just extraordinary.

1020
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Well yeah, let me ask you, switching

1021
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: gears completely, what is the best advice someone gave you

1022
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 1: that you carry with you to this day and why

1023
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: does it mean so much to you?

1024
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 4: Wow, that's a heck of a question. I'm not sure

1025
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 4: I have a heck of an answer.

1026
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: You know, we always think about it. People tell us things,

1027
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: and sometimes, you know, it goes past us and we

1028
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: forget about it. But sometimes some things do stay with us.

1029
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 8: You know.

1030
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 4: I can remember just moments working with certain people, yes,

1031
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 4: that I held in great esteem, like Bob Hope and

1032
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 4: him speaking to me and telling me You've got a

1033
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 4: beautiful voice, don't ever forget to use it. And Sammy

1034
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 4: Davis Junior was saying, you know, you're such a talented girl.

1035
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 4: You know, stuff like that, People that I held up

1036
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 4: in a steme due to their abilities and their gifts

1037
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 4: that I'd watched since I was a little kid. And

1038
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 4: then just by the luck of thank you God, you know,

1039
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 4: I was able to work with these people and meet

1040
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 4: them in my late twenties and that was exceptional. So

1041
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 4: that was nice. I mean they didn't have to say anything.

1042
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 4: They could have, you know, just been polite, nodded, but

1043
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 4: they went out of.

1044
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 1: Their way and they spoke from the heart.

1045
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 5: They did.

1046
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 2: God bless them.

1047
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 4: And Bob in particular always included me in whatever specials

1048
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 4: he was doing. If I was available, he'd go, come on, kid,

1049
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 4: come and join me, and we'd you know, and it

1050
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 4: was just wonderful. It was incredible. So I look back

1051
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:01,439
Speaker 4: at that and.

1052
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: Go, Wow, was I fortunate as you were?

1053
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 4: Yes?

1054
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: Kind of moment, so true, so true. And this segment

1055
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: has come to an end. I just can't believe how

1056
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: quickly our time together has gone. But it's been a

1057
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:16,720
Speaker 1: real pleasure having you, Stephanie Kramer here on Hollywood's Hidden

1058
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: Treasures in our final moments together. Please tell our listeners

1059
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: how they can follow you.

1060
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 4: Well, you can follow me on Facebook, on Instagram. My

1061
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 4: website is Stephanie Kramer dot com. And I'm about to

1062
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 4: put out a new podcast on YouTube called The Other

1063
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 4: Side with Stephanie Kramer, and that's going to be me

1064
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 4: in an hour long conversation with very special guests into

1065
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 4: understanding of reality, our expanded awareness, and I think our

1066
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 4: guests will bring insight and clarity into what lies beyond.

1067
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 5: And it'll be.

1068
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 4: From spiritual enlightenment to paranormal to the unexplained. And these

1069
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 4: are really voices that illuminate, inspire and awaken. When this

1070
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 4: comes out, and it'll be the this year, I hope

1071
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 4: people will come and enjoy the other side.

1072
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Speaker 1: Well, thank you Stephanie Kramer for joining us today here

1073
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: on Hollywoods Hidden Treasures. We all love your stories. Thank

1074
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: you so much for sharing.

1075
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 4: Thank you for having me, and I hope you have

1076
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 4: an outstanding day and happy Easter.

1077
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Speaker 1: Thank you safe for you. Well, we have to take

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Speaker 1: a quick break. Stay tuned to Hollywood Hidden Treasures. I'm

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Speaker 1: Denell Daddigan and when we return, we'll continue our conversation

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Speaker 1: with a great friend of the Hollywood Museum, Kate Linder.

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Speaker 1: You know, for the past forty three years she's been

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Speaker 1: playing Estra Valentine on The Young and the Restless and

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Speaker 1: she has used professional services of a hypnotist and I

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Speaker 1: can hardly wait to hear why. So stay tuned, we

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Speaker 1: have lots to talk about. Welcome back, you're listening to

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Speaker 1: Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. I'm Danell Daddigan and joining us once

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Speaker 1: again a great friend of the Hollywood Museum. The award

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Speaker 1: winning actress Kate Linder. For more than forty three years,

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Speaker 1: she has been playing Esther Valentine on the Ward award

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Speaker 1: winning daytime drama The Young and the Restless. You know

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Speaker 1: Kate received her star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

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Speaker 1: She's been elected to two terms as the Television Academy's

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Speaker 1: Governor of Daytime Programming Peer Group, and was elected to

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Speaker 1: multiple terms as a sag After board member. And of course,

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Speaker 1: she has been on several USO tours with the late,

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Speaker 1: Great Honorary Mayor of Hollywood, Johnny Grant. Kate, it's just

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Speaker 1: a pleasure to have you on the show. And every

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Speaker 1: time we chat, I always think of Johnny Grant.

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Speaker 5: Well me too.

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Speaker 6: I know we both loved him so much, absolutely extremely

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Speaker 6: close to him, and we both miss him.

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Speaker 1: I know I do, and I know you do absolutely

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Speaker 1: And you traveled the world with him in the USO shows,

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Speaker 1: which is.

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Speaker 6: Quite excited for USO tours.

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Speaker 1: It was amazing, absolutely well for our listeners. Here's a

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Speaker 1: did you know about Kate? Kate never quit her pre

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Speaker 1: Young and Restless weekend job as a United Airlines flight

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Speaker 1: attendant saying it keeps me grounded. I enjoy the best

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Speaker 1: of both worlds on the air and in the air. Kate,

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Speaker 1: you know, I have to ask, how did you come

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Speaker 1: to make this decision of being employed in two fabulous

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Speaker 1: jobs at the same time.

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Speaker 7: Well, I became a flight attendant because I needed a

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Speaker 7: job that would be flexible so that I could pursue

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Speaker 7: my acting career. So that's why I became a flight attendant.

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Speaker 7: And then as I was doing that, was so lucky

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Speaker 7: and honored to well, actually I was hired for Young

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Speaker 7: and the wrestlers for one day.

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Speaker 5: It was always supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: That's why just tell the story.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, April eighth, coming up is my forty fourth anniversary.

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Speaker 5: Oh we on the show. Yeah, so I kept.

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Speaker 6: Flying because you know, it was only hired for one day.

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Speaker 5: That's all it was supposed to be.

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Speaker 7: But as that kept growing, I thought, you know, I

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Speaker 7: have seen so many people come and go, and people

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Speaker 7: believe in their own press, and you know, you can't

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Speaker 7: take yourself for granted or any I was of your

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Speaker 7: one day, I'm on this set, the next day I'm

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Speaker 7: talking to you, and then the next day I'm serving

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Speaker 7: coffee at thirty five.

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Speaker 6: Thousand feet you know, you you.

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Speaker 5: Know, And I thought, as long as I can do.

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Speaker 7: These jobs both, well, then I'm going to keep doing them.

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Speaker 7: And I've met a lot of fans on the on

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Speaker 7: the airplane too, so many crazy, crazy things. One actually,

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Speaker 7: this gentleman came up to me and he said, you're

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Speaker 7: my mother. And I said, okay, I can't remember a

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Speaker 7: lot of things, but I think I would know that.

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Speaker 7: He said, oh, no, no, my mother does your voice

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Speaker 7: in Turkey?

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Speaker 6: And I said, oh, because Young and the restlesses.

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Speaker 1: All over the world, so it is, yes, it is.

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Speaker 7: So I went, wow, that's pretty amazing. So all kinds

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Speaker 7: of crazy things.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: Today we're talking about the various forms of hypnosis and

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Speaker 1: mentalism with a little magic thrown in may I ask,

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Speaker 1: what interested you about hypnosis?

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Speaker 5: Well, we're talking about a really long time ago.

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Speaker 7: In college, and you know, it was very very stressful,

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Speaker 7: and so many classes and someone had suggested hypnosis.

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Speaker 5: So I could you know, remember things better or.

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Speaker 1: Do some Come on, I remember these scripts write and live.

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Speaker 7: Yeah now, but this was way back there, before I

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Speaker 7: even had Young and the Restles, And so I went, okay, well, yeah,

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Speaker 7: I'll try it, and It's interesting because when you're under hypnosis,

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Speaker 7: I thought to myself, well.

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Speaker 5: This is ridiculous.

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Speaker 6: This isn't happening, you know.

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Speaker 5: And I remember the hypn just said to.

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Speaker 7: Me, Okay, when I tell you, you know, bring you

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Speaker 7: out of it and you feel totally awake and you

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Speaker 7: feel totally normal. And then he said, okay, raise your

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Speaker 7: right hand. And I thought, I'm not going to raise

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Speaker 7: my right hand. I'm not under hypnosis. And Deanelle, I

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Speaker 7: tried really hard not to raise my hand, and my

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Speaker 7: hand just shot up there.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness, that is just wild.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I'll never forget it now, you know, I did.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: But then I remember being on a stage two where

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Speaker 7: they did, like they put a lot of us under hypnosis,

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Speaker 7: you know, with.

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Speaker 5: Some event or something, and.

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Speaker 7: And once again I thought, you know, oh I'm not

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Speaker 7: this is ridiculous. And then you know, they tell you

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Speaker 7: to do something or lift your left leg and you

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Speaker 7: try really hard not to lift at me, and you

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Speaker 7: do it.

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Speaker 5: You can't, you can't not do it. So I've done

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Speaker 5: it a couple of times.

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Speaker 6: It's really really interesting, and people use it, you know, to.

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Speaker 5: Quit smoking or quit eating or you know, all kinds

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Speaker 5: of Okay, So when.

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Speaker 1: You went to a hypnotist, what did you learn from it?

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Speaker 1: What were you going for? You were going to learn

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Speaker 1: how to?

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Speaker 7: I was it must have worked because I graduated. Anyway,

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Speaker 7: I haven't done it in years.

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Speaker 1: So now did you go one time or did you

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Speaker 1: go multiple times?

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Speaker 5: You know? I haven't went them one time?

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Speaker 7: Oh, I think because at that back then, because it

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Speaker 7: kind of I thought, this is, you know.

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Speaker 5: Tennant strange.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, now that we're talking about it might.

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Speaker 5: Be interesting to do it again. I haven't. I haven't

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Speaker 5: been hypnotizing years.

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Speaker 6: Maybe you and I should go together try.

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Speaker 1: We can make sure that we're getting hypnotized for the

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Speaker 1: thing that we want and not something else. Yes, that's right,

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Speaker 1: absolutely goodness. Well, let me ask you the question. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean I used the word when you were under hypnosis.

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Speaker 1: How did the hypnotists bring you back into real life?

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Speaker 1: Real time? Did they snap their fingers? Did they utter?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they do something where they just I remember him said,

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Speaker 7: when I count to three, you will be instantly awake and.

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Speaker 6: You won't have any problems.

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Speaker 5: You will feel great. I remember him saying that you

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Speaker 5: will feel fine.

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Speaker 7: You will be happy and you know, and then they

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Speaker 7: go one, two, three steps things and you're out.

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Speaker 5: It's kind of interesting. Actually, maybe I need to do

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Speaker 5: this again.

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Speaker 1: I guess.

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Speaker 5: It's been a while. It's been years since I did that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, you know, I want to ask this question

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Speaker 1: because you're such a positive person. You know, you have

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Speaker 1: been able to keep your career going I don't know

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Speaker 1: for forty four years now, almost wow, and you're always

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Speaker 1: so positive. Tell our listeners how are you able to

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Speaker 1: do that? Because I mean you must have something that

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Speaker 1: you tell yourself daily or a thought that you have

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Speaker 1: because you have chosen a very competitive and a difficult career.

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Speaker 7: It's really interesting because I do these Sunday messages. You

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Speaker 7: can find them on Instagram that I do. I started

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Speaker 7: it when the pandemic started, and so this last Sunday

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Speaker 7: I did it was number three hundred and twelve. That's

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Speaker 7: how many weeks I know it has been the pandemic.

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Speaker 7: And I've never missed a Sunday. And I just do

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Speaker 7: one minute and I keep them really short and really positive,

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Speaker 7: saying something and I say things that.

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Speaker 6: I need to hear myself, you know, like keep going.

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Speaker 7: And just put one foot in front of the other

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Speaker 7: and don't give up. Or I'll say a quote. I'll

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Speaker 7: find a famous quote that has something to do with positivity.

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Speaker 7: I always make keep them positive.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it is for myself as well.

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to think of what my last you know,

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Speaker 5: every Sunday I do. It's something like if you want

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Speaker 5: something like.

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Speaker 7: For instance, if you want something to happen, and you

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Speaker 7: want something to happen.

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Speaker 5: For you, you need to get off the shore. You know.

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Speaker 6: That was a quote meaning if you don't get going,

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Speaker 6: nothing's going to happen.

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Speaker 5: You can't wait for someone to come to you. I

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Speaker 5: hear you. Class.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me just ask one more question. What was

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Speaker 1: your first break? Because I think everyone who knows you

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Speaker 1: as Esther Valentine, you know, they would like to know

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Speaker 1: what was your first break?

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Speaker 7: Well, that was my first big break. I mean it's

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Speaker 7: well because I've been on for now almost forty four years,

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Speaker 7: but I had done other things. I had done, you know,

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Speaker 7: I had an extra part in an archie Bunker's place,

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Speaker 7: or I had something on days of our lives. I mean,

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Speaker 7: I have little, little little parts, but I'd have to

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Speaker 7: say young and the Restles definitely was my big break

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Speaker 7: and it has afforded me the opportunity to give back,

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Speaker 7: which makes me really happy because I'm a celebrity spokesperson

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Speaker 7: for the ALS Network and ambassador for Lupus and do

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Speaker 7: things for La Mission, and I'm so honored with the

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Speaker 7: and the.

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Speaker 1: March of Dimes. Let's remember the March Yees.

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Speaker 5: March of Dimes had done so many things from March.

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Speaker 7: Of Dimes, you know, and that makes me really happy

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Speaker 7: because I know if all of us just gave back

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Speaker 7: a little.

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Speaker 5: I mean, can you imagine where we'd.

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Speaker 1: All be great advice at great advice, great advice. And

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Speaker 1: I thank you so much. You know, I can't get

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Speaker 1: over how quickly this segment has just flown by. It

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Speaker 1: has been a pleasure having you Kate Linder here on

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Speaker 1: Hollywoods Hidden Treasures in our final moments together. Please tell

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Speaker 1: our listeners how they can follow you, Kate.

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Speaker 7: Well, if you go to www. Dot Kleinder dot com.

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Speaker 7: It's all right here. You can just put on it

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Speaker 7: fabulous Instagram, Facebook, and that's all those things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fantastic. Well, Kate, thank you so much for joining

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Speaker 1: us today. We've all loved your stories. Thank you for sharing.

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Speaker 5: Thank you Dennil anytime. I always enjoyed talking to you.

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Speaker 1: Oh me too, me too. Well, you've heard it from

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Speaker 1: Kate Linder and you are listening to Hollywoods Hidden Treasures.

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Speaker 1: I'm Deanell Daddigan and when we return, we'll be speaking

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Speaker 1: with Bernie Shine. You know, Bernie built his life in

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Speaker 1: the court of law, but walked away to spend time

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Speaker 1: doing what he loves to do. Now, he's an amazing

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Speaker 1: mentalist and magician, and let's be honest, he's a pretty

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Speaker 1: wise man. So stay tuned to hear more about celebrity

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Speaker 1: hypnotist and mentalists and several celebrities who've gone under their spell.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Hollywoods Hidden Treasures, and we've got lots

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Speaker 1: to talk about. Welcome back. You're listening to Hollywoods Hidden Treasures.

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Speaker 1: I'm Denel Daddigan and joining us is mentalist and magician

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Speaker 1: Bernie Shine. Bernie says, all of life is an illusion.

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Speaker 1: You have never even seen your own face, but rather

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Speaker 1: only its reflection in the mirror, and even that has

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Speaker 1: reversed reality. Wow, that's pretty deep, you know. But let

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Speaker 1: me say that Bernie has built his life in the

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Speaker 1: court of law, but walked away to spend time doing

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Speaker 1: what he loves to do. He is an amazing mentalist

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Speaker 1: and magician, and for decades he has enjoyed great friendships

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Speaker 1: with Hollywood celebrities, Hollywood Squares, Peter Marshall, ABC's Entertainment Guru,

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Speaker 1: George Panacchio, Film Cretic, Leonard Malton, Phyllis Diller, Doris Roberts,

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Speaker 1: Comedy Central's Roastmaster General, Jeff Ross, Joe Anne Whorley, rut

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Speaker 1: A Lye, and Moore. Now, Bernie Shine has created many

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Speaker 1: of his own effects. His magic is close up and personal,

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Speaker 1: intimate and inexplicable. He mixes magic with mentalism in a

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Speaker 1: manner never quite seen before, and he continues to perform

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Speaker 1: to sold out audiences throughout the United States and the world.

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Speaker 1: So Bernie Shine, welcome to Hollywood's Hidden treasures.

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Speaker 9: Oh, it's a pleasure to be with you to now

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Speaker 9: thank you.

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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely well, Bernie. You studied law, you passed the bar,

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Speaker 1: You had more than a successful law practice here in

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles and Hollywood with celebrity clients. And then what happened.

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Speaker 9: Well, I walked away from it because you know, you're

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Speaker 9: a long time dead, so you might as well be

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Speaker 9: doing something. My friend Divernie, a very famous magician, said,

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Speaker 9: you've got to find something you do for the pure

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Speaker 9: love of it. And what gets me up in the

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Speaker 9: morning keeps me up at night. It's always been my

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Speaker 9: magic and mentalism career. So that's where I went.

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Speaker 1: So were you doing magic as a young boy.

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Speaker 9: I've been doing magic since I'm seven years old. And again,

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Speaker 9: to quote my friend Dive Vernon, I wasted the first

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Speaker 9: of my life.

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Speaker 1: So what inspired you to become a mentalist and a magician?

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Speaker 1: Do they go hand in hand? How does it work?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 9: I started doing magic and started doing close up magic,

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Speaker 9: and I would I worked up the Magic Castle, and

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Speaker 9: I'm in their Walls of Fame book and on their

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Speaker 9: Walls of Fame and that sort of thing. And I

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Speaker 9: kind of transitioned because you know, I've seen people do

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Speaker 9: tricks with cards and coins and cups and balls and

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Speaker 9: all these things, and it got to be where everyone

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Speaker 9: was doing the same stuff, and I had transitioned into

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Speaker 9: doing things that were so inexplicable that they shocked me sometimes.

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Speaker 9: And that's how I got into the mentalism, or we

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Speaker 9: call mind reading. And there's a whole different experience for

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Speaker 9: the audience, the fact that they can believe that anything

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Speaker 9: is possible in this world. And in my shows I do.

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Speaker 9: I like to work in theaters now for larger groups,

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Speaker 9: and at my shows, I would like to feel like

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Speaker 9: I'm a host at a party and there, I guess,

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Speaker 9: and there's a lot of audience participation and audience work,

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Speaker 9: you know.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of this, I mean, you've been doing your show

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Speaker 1: for about how many years now?

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Speaker 9: I've been doing magic since I'm seven. I started performing,

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Speaker 9: I would say, well, even as a teenager, I was

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Speaker 9: performing profresh, yes, arcade gigs. But when I came out

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Speaker 9: to California and started with the Magic Castle, that's when

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Speaker 9: really started to my magic and menalism career really started

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Speaker 9: to take off.

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Speaker 1: So with mentalism, about how many decades would it be?

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Speaker 9: Oh, I've been doing that, Oh gosh, several decades, you know,

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Speaker 9: in one way or another. You know, there's all kinds

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Speaker 9: of forms of mentalism, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So can you tell our listeners exactly what does

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Speaker 1: a mentalist do well?

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Speaker 9: In the simplest terms, they purport to read your mind

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Speaker 9: or read your thoughts. But there's a lot of ways

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Speaker 9: that can be done. It could be by be done

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Speaker 9: by a prediction of something that's going to happen. I

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Speaker 9: use a very little crystal ball and I said, this

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Speaker 9: is the world's smallest crystal ball. It tells me to

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Speaker 9: see into the future, but not very far into the future,

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Speaker 9: and I predict something that's going to happen moments later,

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Speaker 9: for example, what a person will do or what number

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Speaker 9: they'll be thinking, So I predict that. That's a prediction.

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Speaker 9: The other aspect could be a revelation where they have

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Speaker 9: thought of something and I reveal what their thoughts are,

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Speaker 9: which is a different approach to the same conclusion. But

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Speaker 9: there's all kinds of twists and turns on the theme,

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Speaker 9: from you know telekinesis to psychometry, remote viewing to you know,

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Speaker 9: question and answer as well. Telekinesis is someone who purports

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Speaker 9: to move objects by their psychic power. Psychometry is the

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Speaker 9: taken object and describing the person who's hands. You could

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Speaker 9: be blindfolded, or the group of objects brought up and

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Speaker 9: concealed in velvet bags and you pick it up and

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Speaker 9: you describe in great ds tale who that odd belongs to.

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Speaker 9: Remote Viewing is, for example, if someone draws a drawing

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Speaker 9: and you have your back towards them, you draw the

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Speaker 9: same drawing they're drawing. That's an example of remote viewing.

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Speaker 9: The question answer act is where the spectators submit questions

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Speaker 9: that the mentalist does not see. They're written down, but

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Speaker 9: he's not seeing them. It's almost like what Johnny Carson

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Speaker 9: did with the Karnak thing. As a joke. We'd hold

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Speaker 9: the question up to his head and give an answer,

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Speaker 9: but a menalist does it for real, purportedly for real

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Speaker 9: that he holds the question up without seeing it and

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Speaker 9: answers the question. Probably the greatest question an answer act

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Speaker 9: was a guy named Glenn Falkenstein and his wife Francis Willard,

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Speaker 9: where he would be blindfolded and questions would be tossed

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Speaker 9: into a basket and he'd pick up each question with

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Speaker 9: folded not opening and hold up to his head and

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Speaker 9: answer the question wow. And the greatest the greatest blindfold

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Speaker 9: act was a guy named Kuda Bucks who was called

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Speaker 9: the Man.

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Speaker 2: With the X Ray Eyes.

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Speaker 9: And there was again Die Vernon and Joe Casarah, another

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Speaker 9: magician Joe Berg who owned the Magic Shop on Hollywood Boulevard,

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Speaker 9: and Kudabucks would play a game called Hearts. They were

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Speaker 9: always playing arts. If they were my house, to'd be

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Speaker 9: playing hearts. If they're at another magician's house, the table

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Speaker 9: just went with them wherever they were. They're always playing

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Speaker 9: hearts and kudabucks. Was the man with the x ray's

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Speaker 9: eyes but all these blindfolds on then be able to

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Speaker 9: duplicate drawings and could see with his eyes blindfolded, and

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Speaker 9: Divernon when they'd be playing hearts. For God's sakes, don't

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Speaker 9: let who to put his blindfold on. He'll kick and cheet.

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 1: For our listeners, I just have to share with them

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Speaker 1: that Bernie back in the nineteen seventies was a favorite

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Speaker 1: performer in the close up room at the famous Magic

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Speaker 1: Castle in Hollywood. And he was at that time a

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Speaker 1: magician and a law school student. And you were befriended

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Speaker 1: by several of the gentlemen that you just spoke about.

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Speaker 1: They were conjuryring icons of the day, Die Vernon, Francis Carlyle,

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Speaker 1: and even Senator Clark Crandall. Wow.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Clark Crandall was a crmungeon and a lot of

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Speaker 9: people don't along with him, but I got along fabulously

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Speaker 9: with him. He was a dear, dear friend. And Francis

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Speaker 9: Carl was one of my mentors who was a very

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Speaker 9: interesting character that I have written about on occasions. And

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Speaker 9: di Vernon is the professor. He was the magician's magician,

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Speaker 9: the finest probably.

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Speaker 2: In the world.

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Speaker 9: Ben vern was also a law quiet of mine.

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Speaker 1: Actually, I had read that and I thought that is

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Speaker 1: so interesting.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, he was a wonderful, wonderful human being, one of

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Speaker 9: the most interesting characters I ever met in my life.

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Speaker 1: Well, being a mentalist. Is this solely a gift? Or

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Speaker 1: is this something you have to work on or be taught.

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Speaker 9: I don't make any representations as to what it is.

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Speaker 9: People can draw their own conclusions as to whether it's

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Speaker 9: reality or whether it's illusion. I simply perform it and

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Speaker 9: then let them, And I believe that probably well, can

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Speaker 9: anyone learn it? You know? I think you have to

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Speaker 9: have a passion to learn it. Did anyone learn to

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Speaker 9: play the piano? I don't know. Maybe, can anyone say maybe?

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Speaker 9: But I think your DNA has to be pointing in

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Speaker 9: that direction too.

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Speaker 5: I have to sell in any.

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Speaker 1: Feel I have to agree with you because during the

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Speaker 1: commercial break, all of us in the studio we're talking

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Speaker 1: about you may be gifted, but you still need to

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Speaker 1: have the discipline that goes with it, to learn more

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Speaker 1: about it so that you can become the best at it.

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Speaker 9: Well, that's it, and it's the paying attention to minute

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Speaker 9: details in great effort to perfect the most minute details

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Speaker 9: to which the audience should wear of none of it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. Well, I just

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Speaker 1: can't get over how quickly this segment has gone by.

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Speaker 1: Can you stay with us for the next segment? Oh,

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Speaker 1: it would be my pleasure, absolutely wonderful. Well, you're listening

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Speaker 1: to Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. I'm Daniel Daddigan, and when we return,

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Speaker 1: we'll continue our conversation with mentalist and magician Bernie Shine,

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Speaker 1: the man who befriended many classic celebrities, and these celebrities

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Speaker 1: were proud to call Bernie Shine their friend. You won't

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Speaker 1: want to miss this next segment. Stay tuned to hear

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Speaker 1: more from Bernie Shine, sharing his inspirational, personal and professional stories.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned. You're listening to Hollywoods Hidden Treasures. We've got

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Speaker 1: lots to talk about. Welcome back. You're listening to Hollywoods

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Speaker 1: Hidden Treasures. I'm Daniel Daddigan and joining us once again

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Speaker 1: is Bernie Shine. You know, Bernie built his life in

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Speaker 1: the court of law, but walked away to spend time

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Speaker 1: doing what he loves to do. He's an amazing mentalist

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Speaker 1: and magician and was a great friend of the comedian

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Speaker 1: Phillis Diller. They spoke every day and got together twice

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Speaker 1: a week. And you know, miss Diller said, Bernie Shine

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Speaker 1: is a brilliant magician and a darling person. Bernie, you

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Speaker 1: even played Gin rummy with Phyllis once a week. I

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Speaker 1: wonder who wanted these games of cards.

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Speaker 9: Every time I would win, I'd make her sign something

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Speaker 9: on the scorecard. I have all these scorecards, you know,

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Speaker 9: where wrote some funny thing to be about whatever I

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Speaker 9: would win. And I told her i'd be I told

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Speaker 9: her I'd win a hell of a lot more if

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Speaker 9: I cheated.

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Speaker 6: Her.

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Speaker 9: Other great gin buddy was Elliott Gould. Yes, we'd drink

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Speaker 9: gin and we would play gin. And Phyllis said that

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Speaker 9: she taught two people to drink, Elliott Gould and Bernie Shine,

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Speaker 9: which I responded, well, it's not so much you'd taught

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Speaker 9: us to drink. It was more like you drove us

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Speaker 9: to it.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty funny, So let me ask you. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you must have some crazy, freaky things that happened during

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Speaker 1: your shows. What was the craziest, wildest thing that's happened

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Speaker 1: during one of your shows? Can you tell us?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: I was doing a show at the Bob Baker Marionette Theater. Oh, yes,

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Speaker 9: and there was a guy there who were there, if

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Speaker 9: I recall, he was the photographer or something. And I

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01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 9: in the middle of my show and I hadn't met

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01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 9: the guy. I met him for a brief moment backstage,

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01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 9: just for his name, and that was it. And during

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01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 9: the show, I stopped the show and I looked at

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01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 9: this guy and I started telling him stuff about himself

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01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 9: that I couldn't possibly go and it kind of shocked me,

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01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 9: shocked him, and I assumed the audience probably thought that,

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01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 9: you know, somehow I've gained this information about him, but

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01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 9: I didn't. And it was one of those magical moments

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01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 9: that even I was taken back by it. It's like

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01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 9: something there was like a void, just something came to

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01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 9: me about this guy and I was close to having,

1515
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 9: you know, a thing that shocked me in my own show.

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01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 9: And that was a great moment actor for me.

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01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 1: Oh, it must have been.

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01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 9: Different. Well, no, it doesn't. Each show is different, And

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01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:58,560
Speaker 9: the nicest compliment I get is I have people that

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01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 9: have come to every show and they bring new people,

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01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:05,600
Speaker 9: and that's a nice compliment because that tells me that

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01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 9: they now only enjoyed the show. They said, oh, you've

1523
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 9: got to see this guy. And it's one of the

1524
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 9: greatest compliments. I had one guy that's come to every

1525
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 9: show I've done. In the middle of the show, I

1526
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:16,679
Speaker 9: said to them, you know, you're either my greatest fan

1527
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 9: or a stalker. And he said, why would to keep

1528
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 9: coming till I can figure this out? I said, well,

1529
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:26,719
Speaker 9: you're going to make me very wealthy. I said, because

1530
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 9: I can't even figure out I do so. In fact,

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01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 9: I became a medalist so I can learn how it.

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01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 5: Is to do this.

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01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. Well, you know it's

1534
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:39,679
Speaker 1: so interesting. I mean, you do both mentalism and magic

1535
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 1: at the same time. How do you intertwine them?

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01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 9: Well, for some reason, it seems to work. It's hard

1537
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 9: to explain. There's a part of me that doesn't even

1538
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 9: I don't go see a lot of other magicians or medalists.

1539
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 9: I don't want to be influenced by them, and I

1540
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 9: want to just do a show that's so unique and

1541
01:18:57,280 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 9: it's entertaining, and that people leave feeling uplifted and feeling

1542
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 9: that they've been a part of something like I say,

1543
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 9: invited to a party where I'm merely the host. And

1544
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 9: a lot of times they're doing the mentalism in a sense,

1545
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 9: in other words, predicting what it is that I've written

1546
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 9: down and kind of reversing the roles. So it's very

1547
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:19,679
Speaker 9: each show, and that's why I enjoy doing it because

1548
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 9: it sometimes surprises me, particularly with the audience work. You know,

1549
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 9: you had your basic structure, but each show kind of

1550
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 9: takes its own root, twists and turns based upon what

1551
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 9: the audience does and what they say, so on and

1552
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 9: so forth, and it's a very you know, it's a

1553
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:38,640
Speaker 9: funny show. I don't take it all terribly seriously. I

1554
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 9: come out to the music in a Persian market wearing

1555
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 9: a turbin, looking quite pompous and errgan and so on

1556
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 9: and so forth, and I do a little dance to

1557
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 9: that music, and then I'll look at someone like if

1558
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 9: Ruda's in the Rudle is in the audience or something,

1559
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 9: I say, Ruda, you're a show business icon. Tell me

1560
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 9: the truth. The turbine too much, and that I take

1561
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 9: off the turbin so it'll but kind of comically.

1562
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 1: Well, you know, you are an entertainment professional and you

1563
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 1: have worn so many hats, an attorney, respected magician who

1564
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:11,799
Speaker 1: in the seventies you performed regularly at the Magic Castle

1565
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 1: in Hollywood. You're an amazing mentalist. By the way, to

1566
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,640
Speaker 1: our listeners, be sure to catch Bernie's shows. They are

1567
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 1: absolutely amazing. Let me just say that, Bernie, tell us,

1568
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:25,640
Speaker 1: what is the best advice someone gave you that you

1569
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 1: carry with you to this day and why does it mean.

1570
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 9: So much to you. That's a very interesting question. The

1571
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 9: best advice I ever received? Yeah, now, if I could

1572
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 9: only come up with an equally interesting answer to that question.

1573
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 9: The best advice, Well, I think that that is to

1574
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 9: be yourself, to be who you are and know who

1575
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 9: you are, and not try to be imitating somebody else,

1576
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 9: and be comfortable in your own skin. I think that

1577
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 9: that's probably good for anyone, anywhere, anytime. So it's either

1578
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:00,080
Speaker 9: the best advice I ever received or the worst. I

1579
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:03,600
Speaker 9: don't know, to be myself. You know you said that

1580
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 9: that Stephanie was one of the most beautiful women on

1581
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 9: TV and I thought, well, that's interesting because I have

1582
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 9: the perfect face for radio.

1583
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 1: Here, I've got two of the best we've heard it

1584
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 1: here first on Hollywood's Hidden Treasures, the best for television

1585
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 1: and the best for radio. Wow wow wow, I love it. Well.

1586
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 1: I just have to say, you know, if you could

1587
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 1: pass on a few words to a young boy or

1588
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 1: girl wanting to follow their dreams, what positive message can

1589
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 1: you share with our young people out there that maybe

1590
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 1: listening to the show.

1591
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 9: Well, it's the advice that divernon, which is to do

1592
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 9: something for the pure love of it, to do something

1593
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 9: about a pure passion. Because when you do that, it's

1594
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 9: not work. You can do it twenty four hours a day,

1595
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:53,680
Speaker 9: seven days a week, and you can enjoy it. And

1596
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 9: that's a real gift. If you can find something that

1597
01:21:57,160 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 9: gives you joy and then can also be your form

1598
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 9: of business or income, that's a great thing if you

1599
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:07,679
Speaker 9: can achieve that. So that's the best advice I could

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01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 9: think of it the moment.

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01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 1: I think that's the best advice before now and in

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01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:17,559
Speaker 1: the future. That's fabulous. You know, our evening show has

1603
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 1: gone by with lightning speed. Bernie. I want to thank

1604
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 1: you so much. It has been a real pleasure having

1605
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 1: you here on Hollywood's Hidden Treasures and to have us

1606
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 1: leave with this advice. This is fabulous. So in our

1607
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 1: final moments together, please tell our listeners how they can

1608
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 1: follow you your website social handle.

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01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 9: Oh, thank you. My website is Bernie Shine dot com

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01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 9: B R and I E S H I N E.

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01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 9: They can find you also on Instagram and on Facebook.

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01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:46,560
Speaker 9: And if they follow me on Instagram, I will be

1613
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 9: posting whenever I'm doing any upcoming shows that'll be posted

1614
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 9: on Instagram.

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01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 1: Perfect. Well, Bernie Shine, thank you for joining us today.

1616
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:57,800
Speaker 1: Thank you, my dear, thank you, thank you, see you soon.

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01:22:58,320 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 9: Bye bye.

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01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 1: Well, I have love tonight's stories, Roger, what was your

1619
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:03,599
Speaker 1: favorite story?

1620
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:06,719
Speaker 3: I think my favorite was probably Stephanie Kramer talking about

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01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 3: how she was transported and she was speaking German.

1622
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 1: Was very fascinating, know how to speak how to speak

1623
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 1: German life.

1624
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that was a great story.

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01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 1: Actually, absolutely absolutely.

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01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:17,680
Speaker 9: Well.

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01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,679
Speaker 1: Before we sign off this evening, let's tell our listeners

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Speaker 1: to visit the Hollywood Museum in the historic Max Factory building.

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Speaker 1: something for everyone at the Hollywood Museum in the historic

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Speaker 1: Max Factor Building. This evening here on Hollywood Hidden Treasures

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01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:55,640
Speaker 1: once again has just flown by. Tonight was amazing. I

1638
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 1: enjoyed hearing the personal stories from our friends. You know,

1639
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 1: it was just so extraordinary hip mentalism. Oh my goodness.

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01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 1: A big thank you to our guest Katherine Hicklund, Stephanie Kramer,

1641
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:10,799
Speaker 1: Katherine Hart, Kate Linder, and Bernie Shine. Oh my goodness,

1642
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 1: what a lineup. And thank you to our listeners for

1643
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:17,639
Speaker 1: joining us this evening with our guests, award winning actress

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01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:21,480
Speaker 1: and entertainment professionals. We have had so many celebrity hypnotists

1645
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 1: this evening, mentalists and several award winning actors speaking about

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Speaker 1: how they've gone under their spell and to think all

1647
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Speaker 1: of this we find in our favorite films and television shows.

1648
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 1: And if you're listening at home, tell us what was

1649
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 1: your favorite story? Thank you for joining us this evening.

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Speaker 1: From all of us here at Hollywood's Hidden Treasures, Stay strong,

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Speaker 1: stay safe, and stay well. I have enjoyed my time

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