WEBVTT - This Is A Weird Conversation... 0:00:06.530 --> 0:00:10.370 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the 0:00:10.410 --> 0:00:12.369 George Washington Broadcast Center. 0:00:12.450 --> 0:00:16.739 Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now, 0:00:17.100 --> 0:00:21.940 here's Armstrong and Getty. 0:00:32.830 --> 0:00:35.209 This morning, for the first time, we're seeing the room 0:00:35.310 --> 0:00:38.270 inside the Chi Phi house at Cornell, where Jane Doe 0:00:38.310 --> 0:00:41.570 says she was drugged and raped by multiple fraternity brothers. 0:00:41.909 --> 0:00:45.030 And we're reading more of those vile Snapchat messages shared 0:00:45.090 --> 0:00:48.320 among more than 50 fraternity brothers during the alleged assault. 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:51.260 The friend Jane Doe went to see that night, messaging 0:00:51.300 --> 0:00:53.840 the group a photo that appears to show her in 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:59.040 the bedroom. One brother asking, shop still open? Another saying, LFG, 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.980 that friend of Jane Doe's inviting them all to the room, writing, boys, 0:01:03.140 --> 0:01:03.959 come whip it out. 0:01:04.980 --> 0:01:07.510 What's LFG? Let's effing go. 0:01:07.530 --> 0:01:11.250 Oh, okay. I never know what the acronyms are. So 0:01:11.350 --> 0:01:14.830 all the, I got, what, five, six televisions in front 0:01:14.850 --> 0:01:17.740 of me, and every one of them is talking the 0:01:18.100 --> 0:01:21.179 Cornell rape case, and most of them leading with some 0:01:21.220 --> 0:01:24.000 sort of headline of new details come out. Are there 0:01:24.020 --> 0:01:24.520 new details? 0:01:26.100 --> 0:01:29.720 Yes. Whether they're relevant or not is a completely different question. 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:34.480 They are absolutely lurid details that can be repeated to 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:36.600 you on the TV screen to keep you tuned in, 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:40.780 which is fine. It's an information economy. I need to 0:01:40.819 --> 0:01:42.740 grow up and get over it. But I am just 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:49.370 so horrified and disgusted by people's willingness to grab ratings 0:01:49.430 --> 0:01:51.490 and clicks and the rest of it while ignoring information. 0:01:52.610 --> 0:01:57.510 the factual, the real factual questions about that case. Did 0:01:57.550 --> 0:02:02.490 a rape take place or didn't it? And there are 0:02:02.550 --> 0:02:06.720 all sorts of different subtopics on this, including politicians' desperate need, 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:09.560 like Kathy Hochul, to get in front of the crowd 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:11.900 and make it clear that I'm against rape, too, whether 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:15.320 one occurred or not. But whether it occurred or not 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:16.919 is really not a question a lot of people are 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:19.210 interested in. But before we get on to that, just 0:02:19.220 --> 0:02:23.519 a little more from Aaron Katursky about various online communications 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:25.070 amongst the people involved. 0:02:25.590 --> 0:02:29.270 Text messages reviewed by ABC News show a second fraternity 0:02:29.310 --> 0:02:32.410 brother and one of her alleged attackers writing, I just 0:02:32.470 --> 0:02:35.520 wanted to apologize for how things went down the other night. 0:02:35.740 --> 0:02:37.920 She responded, at the end of the day, none of 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:41.300 the sexual stuff was illegal, and honestly, I really liked 0:02:41.380 --> 0:02:44.460 being with you. Nearly two weeks later, Jane Doe's view 0:02:44.540 --> 0:02:47.690 appeared to change. Let's be clear that 90% of what 0:02:47.750 --> 0:02:50.810 happened that night was not consensual. She added, all I 0:02:50.870 --> 0:02:53.290 remember after that was you giving me ketamine. 0:02:55.240 --> 0:03:04.130 All right, so where do we even start? I've recently 0:03:04.470 --> 0:03:09.290 learned that it's fairly common among victims. I don't say survivors. 0:03:09.350 --> 0:03:13.570 It's jivey. Sorry. Victims of sexual abuse, that their stories 0:03:13.690 --> 0:03:17.419 do change, and sometimes they seek to minimize what happened 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:21.040 at first. I don't know why precisely, but I'm told 0:03:21.100 --> 0:03:25.680 it's not uncommon. Really interesting. Further clouds the waters. The 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:29.359 fact that she said specifically none of the sexual stuff 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:34.239 was illegal. Don't worry about that. And then later when 0:03:34.300 --> 0:03:38.480 word around campus was this chick is a slut. And 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:40.300 a number of people reached out to her and said, 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:42.260 it sounds like rape to me. You're not a slut. 0:03:42.340 --> 0:03:46.990 You're a victim. And she said, yeah, yeah, I'm a victim. Now, 0:03:47.730 --> 0:03:51.869 does that mean Joe Getty saying she wasn't a victim? No, 0:03:51.990 --> 0:03:55.370 I don't know. I wasn't there. But anybody who's acting 0:03:55.410 --> 0:03:59.370 like it is clearly obviously A or B is, as 0:03:59.450 --> 0:04:01.590 I've said 20 times, either a liar or a fool. 0:04:02.390 --> 0:04:06.590 It was terrible and a situation you don't walk through 0:04:06.630 --> 0:04:10.860 the worst neighborhood in the world with diamonds dripping off 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:14.240 of you. Don't. If you do and you get mugged, 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:18.420 that does not excuse the brute, the criminal, the scum 0:04:18.500 --> 0:04:21.890 who robbed you. But it's a terrible idea. And that 0:04:21.950 --> 0:04:23.580 needs to be the message to a lot of young 0:04:23.620 --> 0:04:25.620 women out of this. Anyway, back to some of the 0:04:25.660 --> 0:04:26.320 factual stuff. 0:04:27.580 --> 0:04:29.900 Well, and then, like I was talking about yesterday, if 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:34.159 in her mind it was consensual and she was perfectly 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:36.590 okay with everything happening, and then at some point she wasn't, 0:04:38.250 --> 0:04:41.390 when did that occur? How would you slow it down 0:04:41.430 --> 0:04:44.529 at that point? Everybody's hammered out of their mind. 0:04:45.050 --> 0:04:50.770 Right. That's a rough situation. And if we're talking about 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:52.839 a criminal case here, there's zero chance these guys will 0:04:52.860 --> 0:04:57.539 get convicted. There's just not a chance because of all 0:04:57.580 --> 0:05:00.299 the extenuating circumstances. But if you want to get into, 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:04.210 all right, so you've got this group sex going on, 0:05:04.830 --> 0:05:07.970 and somebody does something you don't like, and you say, hey, 0:05:08.029 --> 0:05:10.730 cut it out, and everybody's wasted. And he does it 0:05:10.790 --> 0:05:12.990 for two more seconds, and you say, cut it out, 0:05:13.390 --> 0:05:18.380 and he stops. What is that? In the real world. 0:05:18.940 --> 0:05:24.000 What is that, really? Anyway, I was struck by this article. 0:05:24.380 --> 0:05:26.839 As everybody's piling on, I guess they have to report 0:05:26.860 --> 0:05:29.080 it because it happened, but the New York Times, of course, 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:34.409 Cornell students call for change at fiery public meetings. There 0:05:34.430 --> 0:05:38.560 were fiery testimonies, voices lurching in pleas for action from 0:05:38.660 --> 0:05:42.660 school leadership. There were fingers pointed angrily at Cornell University's 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:45.820 internal investigations, including by a woman who faced her student 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:49.539 government representatives and said emphatically, I am also speaking as 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:54.050 Jane Doe. And I'm sure she had a terrible experience, 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:57.010 and I'm sure it affected her, but that has nothing 0:05:57.029 --> 0:05:58.089 to do with the facts of the case. 0:05:58.110 --> 0:05:58.670 Nothing. 0:05:58.690 --> 0:05:59.010 Nothing. 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:04.100 Student government convened a special hearing on public hearing on 0:06:04.339 --> 0:06:07.219 sexual assault Thursday. Some 100 people turned out to share 0:06:07.260 --> 0:06:10.880 their raw emotions in a student union auditorium. Cornell flags 0:06:10.930 --> 0:06:14.950 and chandeliers hanging overhead. Some broke down in tears, channeling 0:06:14.990 --> 0:06:17.930 the churning emotions of the broader campus. They walked forward 0:06:18.010 --> 0:06:20.950 one by one to offer testimonies, facing a semicircle of 0:06:21.110 --> 0:06:25.070 somber-faced student assembly representatives who are surrounded by backpacks and 0:06:25.130 --> 0:06:31.070 soda bottles. The problem with this is you could describe 0:06:31.110 --> 0:06:35.230 that scene and say about global warming and climate change 0:06:35.870 --> 0:06:39.310 or about the genocide in Gaza or about half a 0:06:39.350 --> 0:06:42.810 dozen other topics. You got a bunch of angry college 0:06:42.850 --> 0:06:45.070 students lecturing adults on what they should have done. 0:06:45.210 --> 0:06:45.549 Sorry. 0:06:45.589 --> 0:06:47.730 All right, click. That story's done. It has nothing to 0:06:47.770 --> 0:06:51.070 do with what really happened here. I don't know. It's 0:06:51.110 --> 0:06:55.620 just so frustrating. Oh, and Kathy Hochul said she doesn't 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:57.650 trust the local process. prosecutor. 0:06:57.890 --> 0:06:58.210 I don't know. 0:06:58.250 --> 0:07:00.370 Maybe he is tainted. Maybe he is biased. He's trying 0:07:00.390 --> 0:07:03.490 to cover his tracks. That's worth looking into. But to 0:07:03.730 --> 0:07:09.980 return to reliability and impartiality, she has appointed Letitia James 0:07:10.500 --> 0:07:14.300 to look into the case. The same gal who cooked 0:07:14.420 --> 0:07:18.540 up all those fanciful charges against Trump in the victimless 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:19.320 fraud case. 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:22.930 Yeah, man, it sure doesn't help anything when you have 0:07:23.450 --> 0:07:28.150 politicians jump in who are obviously just trying to show, hey, 0:07:28.250 --> 0:07:30.970 I'm on the side of the crowd that's angry about this. 0:07:31.490 --> 0:07:33.540 That is not the best way to get to the 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:34.540 truth on anything. 0:07:35.260 --> 0:07:35.560 Right. 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:40.140 At the you know, even without knowing any of the facts, it's. 0:07:43.630 --> 0:07:49.090 The climate of campuses at prestigious universities across the country 0:07:49.230 --> 0:07:51.410 is not believe men. 0:07:52.870 --> 0:07:55.110 No. No. 0:07:55.250 --> 0:07:58.670 And it hasn't been for, you know, since the 50s, 0:07:58.810 --> 0:08:04.040 I'm guessing. If it even was then. So it's just 0:08:04.060 --> 0:08:07.080 hard to imagine that the campus would have downplayed this 0:08:07.420 --> 0:08:10.300 if there was much there there anyway. 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:11.120 Mm-hmm. 0:08:12.570 --> 0:08:17.650 So what question are you trying to answer? I guess 0:08:17.790 --> 0:08:21.750 I would ask everybody involved, including the folks listening. I 0:08:21.790 --> 0:08:25.980 have been focused on whether a sexual assault took place 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:30.220 according to the law. Because, for instance, at this student 0:08:30.300 --> 0:08:33.060 meeting and the politicians, they're howling for these guys to 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:36.960 be prosecuted. Howling that anything short of long prison sentences 0:08:37.220 --> 0:08:41.130 is a miscarriage of justice. A notion I find abhorrent. 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:45.280 Because as one of the young men's lawyers pointed out, look, 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:49.380 with all due respect for the victim and her rights 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:53.120 and all that, the rights of the accused are like 0:08:53.179 --> 0:08:56.559 a really important part of our constitution. And it seems 0:08:56.620 --> 0:08:59.819 like people are howling to throw them out. We can't 0:08:59.880 --> 0:09:01.400 do that. We shouldn't do that. 0:09:01.660 --> 0:09:04.860 Well, I'm guessing very quickly after that night, she wished 0:09:04.900 --> 0:09:07.760 that night had never happened, but the way it seems 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:13.200 to have played out, uh, Clearly, it's not the same 0:09:13.300 --> 0:09:15.660 situation for all seven of those dudes. 0:09:16.210 --> 0:09:16.470 Oh, no. 0:09:16.590 --> 0:09:20.089 Because by her own description, there was, you know, there 0:09:20.130 --> 0:09:23.189 was one guy she's actually interested in, you know, romantically 0:09:23.250 --> 0:09:26.670 interested in. Then another guy she was OK with being around. Then, 0:09:26.850 --> 0:09:29.089 you know. I don't know who the last guy was 0:09:29.110 --> 0:09:31.410 that was involved that she might not have known at all, 0:09:31.850 --> 0:09:34.610 but those are all very different circumstances. So you can't 0:09:34.690 --> 0:09:36.880 just lump them all together. So now you've got a 0:09:36.929 --> 0:09:38.770 trial where you've got to nail down. 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:39.120 Okay. 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:42.360 You were in the room at nine Oh six. And, 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:45.300 but you, that guy came in at 10 30 or whatever. 0:09:45.340 --> 0:09:47.120 I mean, how would you possibly nail that stuff down 0:09:47.140 --> 0:09:48.420 when everybody's hammered out of their mind? 0:09:48.980 --> 0:09:49.260 Right. 0:09:49.420 --> 0:09:52.140 And this guy wandered in, said, Holy crap. And walked 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:55.120 out again. And this guy touched her on a butt. 0:09:55.860 --> 0:09:59.980 Who knows? And nobody can testify with any authority to that, 0:10:00.020 --> 0:10:04.580 including her. She said so herself. Things are really fuzzy. Oh, boy. 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:06.040 In fairness, yes. 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:07.620 Where do you think this is going to go? Do 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:10.770 you think this is going to reach a peak of 0:10:10.830 --> 0:10:14.630 like maybe yesterday? And then it kind of just goes away. 0:10:14.670 --> 0:10:16.870 No prosecutions ever come forward. 0:10:17.670 --> 0:10:21.719 There will be charges. No charges. Yeah, ultimately, there will 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:25.240 be various civil suits that will be settled and or dismissed. 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:29.160 I think that's most of it. The criminal stuff. See, 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:32.460 the problem is a person like Letitia James or any 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:36.720 elected prosecutor is politician. And so they may well run 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.860 a case up the flagpole because they know how easy 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:42.680 it would be to run against them saying she didn't 0:10:42.900 --> 0:10:46.990 even prosecute these people. And she's thinking, well, there's no 0:10:47.070 --> 0:10:50.750 case here. But because it's politics, you do it anyway. 0:10:51.230 --> 0:10:53.550 So it could end like that. I don't know. I 0:10:53.550 --> 0:10:57.150 was going to say, in fairness, here is the attorney 0:10:57.590 --> 0:11:02.189 for the alleged victim. Whoops, Hanson is redoing the sheet 0:11:02.309 --> 0:11:06.480 as we speak, and the numbers have disappeared. Number 44, please, Michael. 0:11:06.980 --> 0:11:09.920 I've handled abuse cases for most of my career. I've 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:13.940 handled Harvey Weinstein cases, Sean Combs cases, tons of these cases. 0:11:14.300 --> 0:11:19.620 There's a process that rape survivors go through. First one 0:11:19.780 --> 0:11:21.960 is denial. That's what she did at the beginning. It's 0:11:22.020 --> 0:11:26.720 classic textbook. Then shame. Everybody's saying I'm a tramp, all 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:30.050 this kind of classic thing. And then it's the acceptance that, hey, 0:11:30.210 --> 0:11:32.530 I'm a victim of a rape. This is what happened 0:11:32.550 --> 0:11:34.290 to me. I need to do something and I've got 0:11:34.309 --> 0:11:37.349 to protect myself. And that's what she did. It's textbook. 0:11:39.050 --> 0:11:42.330 Yeah, yeah. I don't doubt that there's a lot of 0:11:42.530 --> 0:11:46.120 truth to that. The problem is, again, and I'm defaulting 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:52.320 to The criminal question. I'd be happy to lecture everyone 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:54.819 for 15 minutes on all the things the young men 0:11:54.860 --> 0:11:57.140 did that was immoral and disgusting, and you ought to 0:11:57.160 --> 0:12:01.360 be better than that. But anyway, lecturing drunk 20-year-olds who 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:07.380 are horny is a thankless task. Anyway, so I keep 0:12:07.620 --> 0:12:10.170 thinking about the criminal process. With all due respect to 0:12:10.230 --> 0:12:16.300 what the gentleman said, it's also absolutely possible that this 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:20.480 gal who at one point afterward was messaging people about, hey, 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:24.280 about how, hey, sexual norms have changed. What we did 0:12:24.300 --> 0:12:27.410 the other night was fine and none of it was illegal. 0:12:27.850 --> 0:12:29.870 And yeah, I guess I am a bit of a slut. 0:12:30.010 --> 0:12:32.770 That was one of the conversations. 0:12:34.309 --> 0:12:36.270 Which for some women in the modern world is a 0:12:36.370 --> 0:12:40.320 point of coolness and honor. I mean, see female comedians 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.510 and all that sort of stuff. It's kind of, become 0:12:42.550 --> 0:12:44.620 kind of a cool thing but that doesn't mean you're 0:12:44.770 --> 0:12:47.620 okay with having sex with some dude you've never met 0:12:47.700 --> 0:12:49.719 before while you're hammered and you wish he wasn't in 0:12:49.740 --> 0:12:51.939 the room i'm guessing that there are some people some 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:53.880 of those dudes at the tail end of this are 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:55.939 probably guilty of something but there'd be no way to 0:12:56.020 --> 0:12:59.690 prove that uh well i suspect you're right yeah yeah 0:12:59.950 --> 0:13:01.650 but what i was going to say is that just 0:13:01.750 --> 0:13:05.690 as a defense attorney the fact that this this poor 0:13:05.750 --> 0:13:07.670 girl and i'm calling her a poor girl because she's 0:13:07.670 --> 0:13:11.130 20 years old i mean her judgment is hardly formed 0:13:12.940 --> 0:13:16.020 Kids have been coddled so much, they haven't learned risk assessment. 0:13:16.420 --> 0:13:18.480 And this is one of the results of what we've 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:21.160 talked about so much. You haven't been allowed to make 0:13:21.179 --> 0:13:23.190 your mistakes and the rest of it, so you get 0:13:23.210 --> 0:13:26.050 off to college and you're naive. But anyway, this girl, 0:13:26.150 --> 0:13:29.030 having made the mistake of engaging in what she engaged in, 0:13:29.330 --> 0:13:31.510 to whatever extent it was willing, is now being called 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:34.200 a slut by everybody on her campus. 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:39.250 That'd be rough. Oh, it's unthinkable. Oh, it'd be miserable. 0:13:39.290 --> 0:13:42.790 You'd puke all day long from shame and regret and 0:13:42.990 --> 0:13:45.970 fear and social pressure. And then somebody says, you're not 0:13:46.010 --> 0:13:49.370 a slut if it was rape. I'm sorry. I don't 0:13:49.450 --> 0:13:52.010 know that that was her thought process. But in a 0:13:52.150 --> 0:13:59.230 criminal case, that's a gigantic reasonable doubt. Anyway, it's ugly stuff. 0:13:59.330 --> 0:14:04.179 Ugly stuff. 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Oddly enough, 0:15:56.420 --> 0:16:00.430 it's a kid's show that adults also really seem to enjoy. 0:16:00.470 --> 0:16:01.590 Those are always the best. 0:16:01.850 --> 0:16:04.530 Yeah, that's not odd at all to me. There are 0:16:04.550 --> 0:16:06.310 a lot of good shows my kids watched. I thought, 0:16:06.330 --> 0:16:07.310 you know, that's pretty clever. 0:16:08.050 --> 0:16:10.560 A lot of adults that don't have kids watching Bluey. 0:16:10.580 --> 0:16:12.120 I'll put it that way. 0:16:12.140 --> 0:16:14.880 Okay, that's a little weirder. Yeah, that's a little weirder. Okay, 0:16:14.900 --> 0:16:17.400 I'll grant you that. There's no way to cram in 0:16:17.420 --> 0:16:19.690 what I was going to talk about here. It's super interesting. 0:16:19.810 --> 0:16:22.410 I loved King Julian when my kids were into that 0:16:22.490 --> 0:16:23.110 when they were kids. 0:16:23.290 --> 0:16:26.070 Only vaguely aware, I love the character from the, which 0:16:26.090 --> 0:16:26.710 movies was he? 0:16:27.570 --> 0:16:29.770 He is from Madagascar. 0:16:29.930 --> 0:16:30.950 Madagascar, that's it. 0:16:31.090 --> 0:16:35.760 And he is a very, very funny ferret? No. Lemur. Lemur, 0:16:35.860 --> 0:16:40.280 that's right. My peoples, my peoples love me. King Julian 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:41.000 is hilarious. 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:41.800 Very nice. 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:43.500 And when my kids were into that, I'd watch as 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:45.120 many episodes as they wanted to watch. 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:46.160 Yeah. 0:16:47.550 --> 0:16:50.650 Coming up, why I, Joe Getty, have renamed the Internet 0:16:50.890 --> 0:16:51.850 the Evil Net. 0:16:52.770 --> 0:16:53.960 That's what we ought to be calling it. I wonder 0:16:53.980 --> 0:16:54.500 if that'll catch on. 0:16:54.700 --> 0:16:58.420 The Evil Net. Huh? Who's with me? 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:01.960 We need to hear from that pilot who saved that plane, 0:17:02.940 --> 0:17:05.109 describing what it was like laying there on the floor 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:08.110 fighting the guy and getting the door open with seconds 0:17:08.210 --> 0:17:11.130 before they were all going to die. It's pretty compelling stuff. 0:17:11.650 --> 0:17:15.909 And in other grim news, history of botched executions in 0:17:15.930 --> 0:17:16.770 the United States. 0:17:17.390 --> 0:17:18.389 Oh, I saw that. 0:17:19.260 --> 0:17:21.439 Oh, if you're not a fan of people's heads becoming 0:17:22.300 --> 0:17:25.639 separated from the rest of them, probably not the segment 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:27.080 for you. We'll get to that eventually. 0:17:27.140 --> 0:17:28.320 Does that happen fairly often? 0:17:30.940 --> 0:17:34.000 Well, I will tell you, in the history of botched executions, 0:17:34.619 --> 0:17:37.200 a huge percentage of them were botched hangings. 0:17:37.940 --> 0:17:39.639 Wow, it seems like that'd be an easy one. 0:17:40.220 --> 0:17:40.340 But. 0:17:40.980 --> 0:17:47.609 Oh, no, no. See, that's where you're wrong. Okay. Guilty. Well, 0:17:47.900 --> 0:17:50.090 I'm not going to hang you for it because I 0:17:50.130 --> 0:17:52.389 would probably botch it. It's harder than it looks. On 0:17:52.410 --> 0:17:55.690 the other hand, if the point was that the person 0:17:55.830 --> 0:17:56.649 ended up dead. 0:17:56.710 --> 0:17:56.930 Right. 0:17:56.970 --> 0:17:58.250 If my head pulls off, I don't care. 0:17:58.670 --> 0:18:01.750 And they end up sans noggin as opposed to, sorry, 0:18:01.770 --> 0:18:03.150 it's grim, but this is the fact of it, having 0:18:03.190 --> 0:18:08.210 their neck broken and instantaneous death. Is that a botching? Right. 0:18:09.090 --> 0:18:13.250 I mean, it's unfair. Unfortunate? Wow, this is a weird conversation. 0:18:13.410 --> 0:18:16.750 All right, yeah, let's end it now. Boy, Friday's great. 0:18:16.770 --> 0:18:18.429 I think I'll take a walk in the sunshine with 0:18:18.470 --> 0:18:19.530 my wife. 0:18:19.670 --> 0:18:21.730 Why are we sending another carrier with a bunch of 0:18:21.770 --> 0:18:25.429 troops to the Middle East? What's going on there? Got 0:18:25.450 --> 0:18:26.629 to check in on that story. 0:18:27.100 --> 0:18:29.700 And why I've renamed the Internet the Evil Net. I 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:33.260 think it's catching on. Stay with us. Armstrong and Getty. 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:38.400 The Armstrong and Getty Show. 0:18:42.290 --> 0:18:46.830 This guy could rip those rebounds. Best rebounder in the 0:18:46.910 --> 0:18:49.450 history of basketball. 0:18:49.730 --> 0:18:52.090 My friend, my friend. You know what, you look good too, Dennis. 0:18:52.130 --> 0:18:52.810 Thank you, thank you. 0:18:53.530 --> 0:18:57.470 Of course that's Donald Trump talking to Dennis Rodman backstage 0:18:58.030 --> 0:19:01.510 before the political rally yesterday, and he brings Dennis Rodman 0:19:01.710 --> 0:19:03.780 on stage when they have this conversation. 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:05.659 And we have another star. 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:06.340 Stay standing. 0:19:06.660 --> 0:19:12.330 Where's Dennis Rodman, the great Dennis Rodman? Where's Dennis? I 0:19:12.369 --> 0:19:15.159 took pictures with these guys backstage. I didn't like it. 0:19:16.290 --> 0:19:18.650 I'm supposed to be a large person. I didn't feel 0:19:18.690 --> 0:19:19.330 large at all. 0:19:19.369 --> 0:19:22.600 I felt very small. Now, look at these guys. They're 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:24.260 seven feet tall. They're monsters. 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:28.419 And, you know, Dennis is the all-time rebounding king in 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:29.050 the history of the.... 0:19:32.750 --> 0:19:34.630 Go Republicans! 0:19:34.650 --> 0:19:36.720 So Dennis, you're a little bit older now, but you're 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:39.020 in great shape. Do you think you'd be able to 0:19:39.100 --> 0:19:40.780 make it in women's basketball? 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:41.679 I don't know, Dennis. 0:19:41.780 --> 0:19:42.810 I'm very worried about you. 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:44.609 I'm very worried about you. 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:47.260 Gotta see this guy's is crazy. 0:19:48.020 --> 0:19:50.120 So i just am i missing something why was dennis 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:53.460 rodman on stage for the political rally is he did 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:55.300 he come out as like a republican guy or trump 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:57.420 guy or is there a policy. 0:19:56.940 --> 0:20:00.970 A policy the dennis rodman. 0:20:00.570 --> 0:20:04.310 Policy well you know he got behind no women and 0:20:04.570 --> 0:20:06.409 men in the women's sports or anything. 0:20:06.810 --> 0:20:09.590 I have not heard a word about that. Maybe I 0:20:09.609 --> 0:20:10.139 just missed it. 0:20:10.170 --> 0:20:12.369 Does anybody know why Dennis Rodman was brought up by 0:20:12.390 --> 0:20:15.450 Donald Trump? Didn't he meet with like Kim Jong-un? Didn't 0:20:15.470 --> 0:20:18.119 he like go to North Korea 25 years ago? And 0:20:18.140 --> 0:20:20.139 he was a regular star on The Apprentice. None of 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:24.040 these things point to why he was on stage yesterday 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:26.520 as they try to rally the base for the midterms. 0:20:27.700 --> 0:20:30.440 That's Trump's idea of a celebrity, I guess. Or that's, 0:20:30.900 --> 0:20:33.510 you know, frankly, folks, and this is not a measure 0:20:33.550 --> 0:20:37.500 of anything. But if you're looking for a Republican celebrity, 0:20:37.859 --> 0:20:40.980 it's slimmer pickings. I'd say you're looking for a Democrat. 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:44.460 I'd say. What are you going to do? 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:49.010 Well, maybe it'll maybe it'll turn the midterms around. So 0:20:49.030 --> 0:20:50.480 you've renamed the Internet, you say? 0:20:51.030 --> 0:20:54.889 Yes, the evil net, indeed, partly because, you know, I've 0:20:54.910 --> 0:20:59.949 been watching the fever pitch conversation around the Cornell alleged 0:21:00.070 --> 0:21:03.490 rape thing, and it's stupid and Everybody's super passionate and 0:21:03.510 --> 0:21:07.210 just trying to outdo each other and showing how anti-rape 0:21:07.290 --> 0:21:11.129 they are. Well, good. You should be. Then you've got this. Apparently, 0:21:11.150 --> 0:21:13.669 and I had not observed this personally, but Drew the 0:21:13.690 --> 0:21:16.190 Millennial has hipped us to this. The Internet is now 0:21:16.310 --> 0:21:22.670 abuzz with the incredible, plain, hijacking, heroic saving of the people. 0:21:23.100 --> 0:21:27.409 It's a Jewish plot. The Jews. It's a Mossad false 0:21:27.490 --> 0:21:34.220 flag thing. It never happened. Okay. All right. Drew points 0:21:34.340 --> 0:21:37.790 out the two main points I've seen people making so 0:21:37.869 --> 0:21:40.850 far in a 9-11 truth or style is the oxygen 0:21:40.869 --> 0:21:43.150