Speaker 1: You have time here from Fenway. Beautiful night, great crowd.
Speaker 1: Tons of memorable moments in this game. I mean lots
Speaker 1: of them. Obviously a lot of that centered around rape
Speaker 1: El Devers, but ultimately for the Giants, this one is
Speaker 1: frustrating because it was one inning from the guy you
Speaker 1: count on more than anybody.
Speaker 2: On the mound, Logan Web.
Speaker 1: And even though the Giants did a great job of
Speaker 1: getting back in the game after that inning, we saw
Speaker 1: one of the big strengths of this Red Sox team.
Speaker 2: When you are behind late against them.
Speaker 1: Their bullpen is really good, their closer is really good,
Speaker 1: and it's too much to overcome for the Giants.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what it was. I think we talked about it.
Speaker 3: We thought it was going to be a pitcher's duel
Speaker 3: between these two. They've had such almost the last three
Speaker 3: starts have almost been identical for both these guys, and
Speaker 3: you're thinking, all right, well, they're going to attack the zone.
Speaker 3: They're gonna put the pressure on the offense to try
Speaker 3: to score a little bit. We know that the ro
Speaker 3: Red Sox have been so hot in the second half
Speaker 3: and that Logan Web was gonna have his work cut
Speaker 3: out for him, and it was going to challenge the
Speaker 3: discipline of the hitters as to how they're going to
Speaker 3: put it in play.
Speaker 4: Apparently not.
Speaker 3: I mean that third inning, thirty five pitches they got
Speaker 3: out of him, and he just wasn't able to bounce
Speaker 3: back off of that, and and you thought all the
Speaker 3: momentum was going to be gone. And then the two
Speaker 3: big swings by Gilbert and by Devers. Now you're down
Speaker 3: to run. You're feeling the momentum come back. But ultimately
Speaker 3: when they got into that bullpen, it was just lights out.
Speaker 3: And that was you know, when you can't get on base,
Speaker 3: you don't touch base. Fourteen batters after that home run
Speaker 3: do not touch base? That is That just goes to
Speaker 3: show what kind of bullpen you have.
Speaker 5: I was worried that, you know, Webb had these the
Speaker 5: knat issues earlier in the year, put him on the
Speaker 5: shelf ro and he tried to pitch through it for
Speaker 5: I don't know how long, but finally they put him
Speaker 5: on the injured list, and I don't know if you
Speaker 5: ever got fully healthy. He got healthy enough where he's
Speaker 5: able to start pitching again, but man, I don't remember
Speaker 5: seeing him missed by that much to start walking guys
Speaker 5: with the base load of hitting guys.
Speaker 6: You hit two different guys. I was just a little worried.
Speaker 5: About how I'd be anxious to hear your take on
Speaker 5: a hobby.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't see anything physically. I thought more than anything,
Speaker 3: it was more the mechanics of it.
Speaker 4: His rotation.
Speaker 3: He was getting really rotational, and I think when we
Speaker 3: were kind of sitting there watching the game, they really
Speaker 3: took away the change up. They were really making sure
Speaker 3: that they were on that pitch. And once he was
Speaker 3: executing some good ones, but they were almost a misfire
Speaker 3: on the change up.
Speaker 4: So then he had to.
Speaker 3: Start incorporating the slider or the sweeper and that cutter
Speaker 3: up to try to get him off bounce. I think
Speaker 3: they told him going into this game, he's going to
Speaker 3: go fastball, change up, fastball, change up. Sit on that outspeed,
Speaker 3: you'll get one. And the Red Sox jumped on top
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 7: And how often do you see what we saw with
Speaker 7: Web where he hits two batters and walks two batters
Speaker 7: in the same ina. So that's what John and I
Speaker 7: were kind of looking at each other, going this, something
Speaker 7: seems off, and you know, who knows what it was?
Speaker 1: But I also thought he made a good point during
Speaker 1: that inning live about the pitch clock. And you know,
Speaker 1: the pitchclock's been in play for a long time now,
Speaker 1: it's not like it's brand new. But when you have
Speaker 1: an inning that's spiraling, there's nowhere to hide. Like the
Speaker 1: pitch clock is rolling, you can't just take a walk
Speaker 1: and kill some time and maybe get a breather. And
Speaker 1: it was like a downhill effect in that inning, I thought,
Speaker 1: and I mean it's sort of true. In the era
Speaker 1: of the pitch clock, it can be harder to cut
Speaker 1: off that momentum.
Speaker 5: So I mean, maybe Contraras hitting that change up almost
Speaker 5: up into New Hampshire. And because then after that somebody
Speaker 5: else had a change it up too, was it Rutchman?
Speaker 5: Maybe the and he collaborate it, But so maybe that
Speaker 5: was it that got into his head a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's certainly part of it. I mean,
Speaker 3: we got to understand that Webby is Webby's averaging ninety
Speaker 3: one to seven on his fastball, So it's not a
Speaker 3: guy that he's just gonna throw fastballs by you. He's
Speaker 3: going to rely on his command and his control and
Speaker 3: his ability to get you outside. He always tests your
Speaker 3: discipline as to what your zone is and how can
Speaker 3: I get you out of your zone. The Red Sox,
Speaker 3: I just think came in with a good game plan
Speaker 3: and they kind of they shrunk the strike zone on him.
Speaker 3: Losing the challenges early didn't help. And so when you're
Speaker 3: facing some of these power guys, especially Contraras, he's been
Speaker 3: hit twenty three times. I forgot the number twenty one times,
Speaker 3: and he's going to be on top of the plate,
Speaker 3: so you have to keep him on us, so any
Speaker 3: mistake you make in there. He was like, all right,
Speaker 3: I think I set him up. Let me throw the
Speaker 3: change up. The change up stays in that inner third
Speaker 3: turns and like you said, he hits it really well.
Speaker 4: I like it does rattle you. And talking about the
Speaker 4: pitch clock, it is a deal. You could see that
Speaker 4: he was.
Speaker 3: He took his hat off and he started playing with
Speaker 3: his the pitch calm. Whether there was an issue or not.
Speaker 3: You know, he was trying to catch his own breath.
Speaker 3: And that's where I'm surprised a catcher meeting didn't happen
Speaker 3: or anything like that to really slow him down. We
Speaker 3: had some meetings available, but ultimately he's he's the horse
Speaker 3: for a reason. He probably was telling Kavanaugh like, don't
Speaker 3: even bother coming out of here.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 4: Probably it's just how he is.
Speaker 3: And unfortunately it wasn't his night, and I think he
Speaker 3: had if he could do it again tomorrow, he would.
Speaker 4: He just it's just not Baseball's just not built like that.
Speaker 5: I was a little worried he because he was creating
Speaker 5: a way to get a little bit of a breather
Speaker 5: there with that PitchCom thing. But I didn't see the
Speaker 5: umpire doing anything. The clock kept going down, and then
Speaker 5: all of a sudden when he went back up in
Speaker 5: the mountain, it was down to like eleven seconds or whatever,
Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden the clock reset to
Speaker 5: eighteen seconds. Where I go, Oh, so I guess to
Speaker 5: play an umpire gave him a little extra time at
Speaker 5: that point. But so a veteran moved there anyway to
Speaker 5: get a little bit small but he could have gotten
Speaker 5: a lot longer one and somebody just ran out to
Speaker 5: the to the mound.
Speaker 6: For a little bit.
Speaker 7: If there's ever a time to use it, that was
Speaker 7: that inning.
Speaker 2: He used them up.
Speaker 7: But if you have to, because things are going weird
Speaker 7: quickly with your best pitcher. And yeah, you should not
Speaker 7: take any home with you, that's for sure, especially when
Speaker 7: you have a bad ending like that.
Speaker 2: They had that theory with the challenges tonight.
Speaker 1: Abs challenges, manager, challenge, use them all, don't take any home,
Speaker 1: burn them all.
Speaker 6: Early, use them all on the third inning.
Speaker 7: Yeah everything, abs man, everything, Just get rid of them.
Speaker 6: And see what happened.
Speaker 1: You know, Look, it's too bad because you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's so fun to be here.
Speaker 2: We only get to come here every other year.
Speaker 1: And the Devers stuff was kind of incredible and and
Speaker 1: Gilbert Endeavors together.
Speaker 2: I mean that that was one.
Speaker 1: Of the more impressive moments in the last couple months
Speaker 1: for the Giants, those two swings against Sonny Gray. So
Speaker 1: it's not like the Giants went down without a fight tonight,
Speaker 1: that's true.
Speaker 5: And and I'm happy for Devers. I don't know what
Speaker 5: all was going through his head, but it's all those
Speaker 5: years and all those I mean, I'm sure he had
Speaker 5: a lot of great memories here, but and then it
Speaker 5: hits one. So because this is not a game where
Speaker 5: you can if you're trying too hard and you want
Speaker 5: to do something too badly. And I loved the comment
Speaker 5: they made before the game about it at the press conference.
Speaker 6: So, so, are you hoping to hit a home run?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 6: Would that be a goal for you?
Speaker 5: He's just I'm I'm missing pitches that I should be
Speaker 5: hitting all the time.
Speaker 6: I'm not.
Speaker 5: I'm just trying to help the team win. I'm I'm
Speaker 5: just hoping this some time to soon started hitting the
Speaker 5: pitches I was supposed to hit, So I thought that
Speaker 5: was a cool.
Speaker 6: Way to handle it.
Speaker 2: It was, and he hit one.
Speaker 7: So for you guys that were here, what was cooler
Speaker 7: the Yeas home run or the Devor's home run.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we definitely paired him up. We talked about it
Speaker 2: over It was pretty cool.
Speaker 1: It was there was a lot going on that weekend
Speaker 1: and then that that was cool in its own way.
Speaker 2: But I thought.
Speaker 1: Tonight because of the booze and then watching the Giants
Speaker 1: dug out how they reacted when Devs hit that one.
Speaker 1: I mean, it tells you they do care about this
Speaker 1: guy a lot, and I think it hurt everybody. I
Speaker 1: mean it shocked me. I knew some booze were coming,
Speaker 1: and they bowed the hell out of him as first
Speaker 1: at bat for a guy who was one of the
Speaker 1: great players here. He was pretty good here.
Speaker 2: He was really good here. So I got pretty juiced
Speaker 2: over the dev so run personally, I did.
Speaker 4: I told you that's that's your own fault. You should.
Speaker 4: I know, they hit everybody here if you're not.
Speaker 7: Wearing a hobby. When you came back here and pitched,
Speaker 7: did they bow you?
Speaker 4: They boomed me every single time I walk on that field.
Speaker 7: I thought I heard some of that before.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's we all know that.
Speaker 3: But you know they they gave him his flowers, but again,
Speaker 3: he's not wearing the uniform anymore, so they're gonna boo him.
Speaker 6: Should have known, my brother should.
Speaker 4: Have given you the heads up.
Speaker 1: Failed by him. Okay, we'll pick players when we come back. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's a post game brad Park two. We're gonna pick players.
Speaker 1: H Glenn, why don't you lead a sally?
Speaker 7: Okay, you know what, I don't want to be too obvious.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna take Drew Gilbert. You know, big home run,
Speaker 7: first pitch of the game, he hits it, hard to
Speaker 7: do on the right field line. A couple of hits
Speaker 7: for him, and listen, I think we've all looked at
Speaker 7: Drew Gilbert as the years going on and said, you know,
Speaker 7: is he a regular? Is he a fourth outfield is
Speaker 7: he a fifth outfielder? We don't know yet, but what
Speaker 7: we've seen is a lot of offensive progress from Gilbert.
Speaker 7: He looks a lot better. At bats are better. He's
Speaker 7: starting to grind a little bit his at bats, and
Speaker 7: now he's starting to hit the ball hard, and he's
Speaker 7: starting to hit the ball on the ballpark and you
Speaker 7: do it here in this environment. I thought it was
Speaker 7: a pretty good performance by Drew Gilbert. So he's my guy.
Speaker 6: That's a good call.
Speaker 2: Totally agree.
Speaker 1: He has definitely taken advantage of opportunity. That's what you
Speaker 1: want these young guys to do. He's doing it probably
Speaker 1: more than anybody right now of the guys who are
Speaker 1: getting a chance to play.
Speaker 7: And a little maybe a little uh, I don't know
Speaker 7: if this is the right word, but little attitude change.
Speaker 7: I think he's a little less collegiate and a little
Speaker 7: more professional, and I think it shows.
Speaker 2: A little bit tone down.
Speaker 1: But you can play hard and play tough and play
Speaker 1: hard nosed and still kind of maybe keep your motions
Speaker 1: in check. I think Tony's talked to us about that
Speaker 1: with him, like don't get too high, don't get too
Speaker 1: juiced out there. You channel it in a positive way.
Speaker 1: So good pick, Thank you, it's good call John who.
Speaker 5: You got well because I talked to him before the
Speaker 5: game about whether he'd ever played here before, Christian Kosts,
Speaker 5: I had forgotten he had been with the Red Sox
Speaker 5: for a while, but he never played here, he said.
Speaker 5: The whole coaching staff, all these coaches who are here now.
Speaker 5: After the they reworked everything and fired Alex Korra. He
Speaker 5: played with all those coaches in the minor leagues when
Speaker 5: he was here. The only time he ever played here before,
Speaker 5: and he didn't play. It was kind of a showcase
Speaker 5: for everybody in the Cape Cod League, the college the
Speaker 5: great College league. That did kind of a showcase here.
Speaker 5: And I said, well, did you hit one over the
Speaker 5: wall and left? He says, yeah, And I wanted to
Speaker 5: hit one over the wall. I was trying to hit
Speaker 5: one over the wall, and then I did, and then
Speaker 5: one of the coaches said, what are you doing.
Speaker 6: Don't do that. Don't be an idiot. That's not your game.
Speaker 6: Don't do that. Stop doing that.
Speaker 5: And he said, but I hit won, and I wasn't
Speaker 5: gonna let that opportunity to go by, so but I
Speaker 5: think he was. He was just as excited, and I
Speaker 5: probably Gilbert was as well. But uh, to finally play
Speaker 5: here and against all these guys that he knew so
Speaker 5: well from the being in the minor leagues.
Speaker 6: With them, and I thought he had a heck of
Speaker 6: a game.
Speaker 5: So swum the bad as well as anybody in the
Speaker 5: lineup today and had a really nice game at third
Speaker 5: base too. So Christian cost of my guy, feel good
Speaker 5: for him.
Speaker 2: He was great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he had a Michael Angelo teenager to the
Speaker 1: glove mutant ninja turtle?
Speaker 6: Is that what it is?
Speaker 2: I almost I did WI.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a long time agobble players weekend.
Speaker 2: He had a glove out there with.
Speaker 4: Some personality with the nunchucks.
Speaker 2: Good Michael Angelo, hobby who you got?
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with raver Sam Martin. I think when
Speaker 3: I look at what he's been able to do, I
Speaker 3: know the stuff's not overpowering. And in today's game, when
Speaker 3: you see so many guys with big arms and kind
Speaker 3: of do those things. Ultimately, your job in the bullpen
Speaker 3: you gotta throw strikes and you got to try to
Speaker 3: get people out. And I think the way he was
Speaker 3: used today, the way he's been used the last couple
Speaker 3: of times, I think it's the right spot. Form the
Speaker 3: pocket right after the starter. If you got to get
Speaker 3: a couple of innings out of a guy, he's the
Speaker 3: guy's gonna most of the time he throwing strikes and
Speaker 3: he's gonna keep the ball down in the zone. He's
Speaker 3: gonna get you a lot of contact. He's not a
Speaker 3: big punch out guy, but it's a guy that can
Speaker 3: kind of settle it down to get your bridge. Be
Speaker 3: a bridge guy in the future to the bullpen the
Speaker 3: way it's currently constructed. That's his best role right now.
Speaker 5: Yeah good, This whole thing could have gotten out of
Speaker 5: control right now as soon as he came in.
Speaker 6: So I think he did a heck of a job.
Speaker 2: Great guy, Webbo's him.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he held momentum in the Giants, dugout for a
Speaker 7: little bit.
Speaker 2: In he did good.
Speaker 1: Pick Well, then I'm gonna take Devers. Nobody took Devers,
Speaker 1: so I'm going with Raffi. He's not a very introspective guy.
Speaker 1: He doesn't like talking about himself, he doesn't express his emotions.
Speaker 1: He just wants to play ball, doesn't want to do
Speaker 1: a lot of talking, but I guarantee you he'll never
Speaker 1: forget that ever like that, and that was a meaningful
Speaker 1: moment for him.
Speaker 2: So good for Raffi Devers.
Speaker 5: And he went deep to put him right back in
Speaker 5: the game against one of the guys who's been the
Speaker 5: best in baseball this year. He won the sixteenth game tonight,
Speaker 5: Sonny Gray.
Speaker 6: Yeah, pretty good, pretty good.
Speaker 2: Took on the big part of Fenway. I liked those
Speaker 2: home runs.
Speaker 6: Not easy.
Speaker 5: I've seen really high fly balls, and you played here, Hobby,
Speaker 5: but I've seen high fly balls at lend Out just
Speaker 5: sometimes get pushed by the wind. A little harder to
Speaker 5: hit a line drive that still clears that eighteen foot
Speaker 5: high wall out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's twenty five degree launch angle. I mean, he's
Speaker 3: we talked about it. When he hits them. He's more
Speaker 3: of a line drive, low line drive home run guy.
Speaker 3: He's not majestic shot home run guys. So that was
Speaker 3: fun to watch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the majestic. We left that to Wilson Contreras.
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, that was maestic.
Speaker 2: Ooh boy, wow.
Speaker 7: Where the New Hampshire. I'm not great geographically on New Hampshire.
Speaker 7: With that f be appropriate. Yeah, direction.
Speaker 6: I think it may be landing in the Manchester anytime now, so.
Speaker 2: It's a little early for the Fall Foliage tour. But
Speaker 2: he Be's man got ahead start.
Speaker 7: I mean, if you were looking down and you just
Speaker 7: heard the sound, you would say, that's four fifty Yeah,
Speaker 7: that's what.
Speaker 6: One hundred and sixteen miles an hour.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, giants will try to regroup, and I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, learning experience is for all these young guys play.
Speaker 2: Tidwell gets the.
Speaker 1: Ball tomorrow, this place will be rocking again. It'll be
Speaker 1: a Saturday night. The lights are on. They're driving for
Speaker 1: the playoffs. That's if you want to learn and be
Speaker 1: thrown into the mix.
Speaker 2: It's as good as it gets for Tidwell tomorrow.
Speaker 7: Two things, two words. Throw strikes. The kid just has
Speaker 7: to throw strikes because the stuff is good. We saw
Speaker 7: him in Texas. He threw strikes. He was pretty good.
Speaker 7: We've seen him at home last outing all over the place.
Speaker 7: If he's going to be successful at the big league level,
Speaker 7: he's gotta be near the strike zone because the stuff
Speaker 7: is pretty good.
Speaker 3: I totally agree, and I think Patrick Sanderbal wobbled bad
Speaker 3: on his last outing.
Speaker 4: There's a chance.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's you know, he's still a lefty
Speaker 3: pitching against the Giants, and that's so far that's been
Speaker 3: a good luck charm. But it's a guy that's not
Speaker 3: coming off of a of a high at a start.
Speaker 3: So if you can get on them early, you might
Speaker 3: have a chance.
Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, bring him on. He's got no idea.
Speaker 1: What's coming tomorrow the Giants and I'm leaving. I hate
Speaker 1: to miss the last two games of this series, but
Speaker 1: I'm I'm.
Speaker 6: Going to national man.
Speaker 2: The nation needs a lot more of me. Not disagree, David,
Speaker 2: but I'll be watching and listening to you guys.
Speaker 6: NBC doesn't agree with it.
Speaker 2: They don't agree with that. But have fun at Fenway
Speaker 2: for the next two days.
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