WEBVTT - Matt Barrows Talks 49ers Australia Trip, Rams Preparation and Roster Challenges

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we are back live on the Murph and

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<v Speaker 2>Marcus Show on a Wednesday morning, and joining us now

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<v Speaker 2>on the UMA guest line is one of our favorite

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<v Speaker 2>forty nine or beat writers, Matt Barrows from The Athletic Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got John Dickinson filling in for Murph this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>How are we doing today?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing great, And you guys are a favorite of

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<v Speaker 3>mine too. I just want to let.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that, Oh, Matt, I always love hearing that.

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<v Speaker 2>You've always been one of my favorites from when I

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<v Speaker 2>used to book you for like Drew Hoffer and Ryan

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<v Speaker 2>Covey late at night, so it always appreciates time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a name drop for you. Yes, indeed. Well, Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>I know there's so many storylines to get into with

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<v Speaker 2>forty nine ers training camp, but before we get into

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<v Speaker 2>all the training camp schedules, I need to ask you

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<v Speaker 2>about the travel schedules for the forty nine ers and

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<v Speaker 2>the Rams. Five weeks and one day from today. It

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<v Speaker 2>sounds like the Rams are flying out one day before

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<v Speaker 2>the game. It was reported yesterday by ESPN's Dan Graziano.

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<v Speaker 2>If you could please break down what you know about

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<v Speaker 2>the forty nine ers travel schedule and what you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of feel about the Rams strategy to fly in one

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<v Speaker 2>day before Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a study in contrast, so this week one

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<v Speaker 3>will be a great, you know, test of different strategies.

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<v Speaker 3>The forty nine ers are going to go out I

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<v Speaker 3>think more than a week ahead of the game, so

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<v Speaker 3>they are taking a very scientific approach. They are going

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<v Speaker 3>to try to acclimate I assume if they'll be practicing

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<v Speaker 3>in the morning because that game Australia time kicks off

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<v Speaker 3>at ten thirty, which is, you know, earlier than any

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<v Speaker 3>local start that you're you're ever going to have in

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<v Speaker 3>the NFL. The Rams are doing the exact opposite. They

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<v Speaker 3>are not going to to overthink it. They're almost literally

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<v Speaker 3>parachuting in the day before the game, and the idea

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<v Speaker 3>is that we're not gonna kind of go through the

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<v Speaker 3>rigmar role of adjusting our body clocks that might fail.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just gonna react. And I believe they did something

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<v Speaker 3>similar in a game in London recently and it went

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<v Speaker 3>well for them. They blew the doors off the Jaguars

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<v Speaker 3>in that game, and I think that sort of sealed

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<v Speaker 3>their their their approach to these types of things that

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, we're not going to change things. We're

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<v Speaker 3>not going to torture ourselves through all these changes. We're

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<v Speaker 3>just going to go in and, like I said, react

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<v Speaker 3>to the situation. So it'll be interesting to see which

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<v Speaker 3>team comes out on top. I mean, talent obviously is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a big factor in this as well.

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<v Speaker 3>But my thought is that if the forty nine Ers

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<v Speaker 3>sneak out of victory in that game and then have

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<v Speaker 3>what is it, three home games later, I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 3>a really great start to the season for them, and

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<v Speaker 3>they beat their biggest rival and then they have some

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<v Speaker 3>home games. If they lose it, though, and this is

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<v Speaker 3>my point that then you know they have done a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of work for nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>No question, And they do, at least on paper, have

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<v Speaker 4>two of the more winnable home games on their home

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<v Speaker 4>schedule as those Week two and Week three games as well,

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<v Speaker 4>that I think could be perceived as as somewhat of

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<v Speaker 4>a softer landing spot considering the circumstances. I'm fascinated by

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<v Speaker 4>this The quote from Sean McVay. Going back to last year,

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<v Speaker 4>Matt and you mentioned them going over to London and

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<v Speaker 4>beating the Jaguars. They arrived the morning of the game,

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<v Speaker 4>so I guess it was a night game in London.

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<v Speaker 4>They got in the morning of the game. And the

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<v Speaker 4>quote from Sean McVay, we're like seal team sick, were

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<v Speaker 4>in and out before you know what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>See all teams score six. Yeah. I like that. I

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<v Speaker 3>like that analogy.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know who would you give the like,

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<v Speaker 4>who would Matty Barrows give the the advantage to, because

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<v Speaker 4>we were just talking about it during the break, and

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<v Speaker 4>obviously there's a track record of the Rams doing it

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<v Speaker 4>this way last year in a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 4>different circumstance. But I feel like the forty nine ers

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<v Speaker 4>would have an advantage at least going into it. Wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't you You would think if they're they're a week

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<v Speaker 4>and their their bodies have adjusted, you would think that

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<v Speaker 4>they would have an advantage.

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<v Speaker 3>And I should say that they've done well on these

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<v Speaker 3>these longer trips over the years, the weeks that they

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<v Speaker 3>spend in West Virginia or Youngstown State or Colorado, they

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<v Speaker 3>usually do well in the next game. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>their their record is perfect, but they feel like they

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<v Speaker 3>have a good handle on this bodyclock stuff, so you know.

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<v Speaker 3>But then again, you know, the Jim Harball teams that

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<v Speaker 3>I covered used to kind of handle long trips, like

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<v Speaker 3>the McVeigh teams, let's let's just get on a plane go,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they were like the I always liken those

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<v Speaker 3>teams to the outsiders. You just you just show up

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<v Speaker 3>in the park and and have a fistfight. And he

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<v Speaker 3>was a shift fall, you know what I'm saying. So

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, like I said, a study and you

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't have two more different approaches to a game in Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, two different strategies being implemented by Sean McVay and

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<v Speaker 2>Kyle Shanahan. But these are two different coaches that are

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<v Speaker 2>in two different situations right now. With of course, Kyle

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<v Speaker 2>Shanahan is still recovering from the car accident from a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks ago. Matt, what can you tell us

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<v Speaker 2>about Kyle's recovery and some of the progress he's made

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<v Speaker 2>throughout training camp.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's making progress. I don't think he's ready to

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<v Speaker 3>take on the full day to day duties of a

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<v Speaker 3>NFL head coach. From what I understand, uh stamina is

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<v Speaker 3>still an issue. He just doesn't have the ability to

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<v Speaker 3>put in that workload. But he's he's moving in that direction.

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<v Speaker 3>They had their longest practice of the summer on on Monday,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was out for virtually the whole practice, watching

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<v Speaker 3>it live, and he also addressed the team for the

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<v Speaker 3>first time. Over the weekend. He hadn't he hadn't held

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<v Speaker 3>any team wide meetings. So all of those are are

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<v Speaker 3>positive signs. But like I said, I don't think that

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<v Speaker 3>there's any sense that maybe in this next block of practices,

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<v Speaker 3>next four practices, he will be there in full.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Then they have next week a joint practice with the

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<v Speaker 3>Titans and the Robert Salas, and then a preseason game,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they have one in uh La with the Chargers.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's sort of the next question. Is he up

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<v Speaker 3>and running in full before those? I think I've I

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<v Speaker 3>think another legitimate question is remember they had to cancel

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<v Speaker 3>a joint practice I think it was against the Saints

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of years ago because they just ran out

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<v Speaker 3>of bodies. They couldn't hold a kind of a legitimate practice.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're starting to approach those injury levels. They're probably

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<v Speaker 3>not there yet, but there's more opportunities for guys to

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<v Speaker 3>get injured over the next few days. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>that that's always sort of a question do they have

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<v Speaker 3>enough healthy bodies for these joint sessions?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you went exactly where I was going to go next.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, what's your sense for just how the forty

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<v Speaker 4>nine ers are navigating the here we go again nature

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<v Speaker 4>of some of these injuries, whether it's a season ender

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<v Speaker 4>like Ricky Piersoll, or it's some of the more day

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<v Speaker 4>to day, you know, dealings that at least on the surface,

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<v Speaker 4>don't seem like they're going to be relatively long term.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think most of these aren't going to be

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<v Speaker 3>relatively long term, you know, but when when it happens

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<v Speaker 3>to a Jordan James or a Kaylin Black, younger guys

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<v Speaker 3>that that haven't been through it, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 3>that there is concern. You want them a practicing as

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<v Speaker 3>much as possible. In other words, now, both of those

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<v Speaker 3>guys look really good to begin camp, and it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to depend on how much time they miss. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Jordan James has a broken rib. He's a running back,

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<v Speaker 3>I would think that that rib has to fully heal

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<v Speaker 3>before he can get back into the action. But you

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<v Speaker 3>know too, I'm sure the your listeners want to know

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<v Speaker 3>why the forty nine ers have all these injuries all

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<v Speaker 3>the time, and I do believe it's because they just

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<v Speaker 3>go hard in these practices. The word callous is used

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<v Speaker 3>a lot by Kyle Shanahan, by John Lynch. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>they want these guys to get used to a certain

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<v Speaker 3>pace so that when the regulars even begins, they are

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<v Speaker 3>they are moving at a greater pace than than the opponent.

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<v Speaker 3>So they're building this callous right now, and then building

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<v Speaker 3>a callous you get wounded. So that's the that's the

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<v Speaker 3>trade off is that, yeah, you you get sort of

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<v Speaker 3>inured used to practicing hard, but you end up hurting

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<v Speaker 3>yourself as well. So that's, like I said, that's the

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<v Speaker 3>line that this team walks. I yeah, I'd love to

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<v Speaker 3>give those guys sodium pentethal and ask them if they

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<v Speaker 3>thought it was worth it last season because they were

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<v Speaker 3>a good team. They were better than a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>teams despite having so many injuries. So you saw that

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<v Speaker 3>callous in action, but you you you also saw it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know cost the team uh in the end.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Barrows is the voice here this morning on the

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<v Speaker 2>Umaguest line, and this conversation is sponsored by Redwood Credit

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<v Speaker 2>Union for You for community for seventy five years, joined

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<v Speaker 2>RCU today at Redwood CEU org and Matt. Since the

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<v Speaker 2>last time we saw the forty nine ers on the field,

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<v Speaker 2>they've made an addition bringing in Deebo Samuel over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Nineteen problems is back in the bay. What's been your

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<v Speaker 2>scattering report of what's it been like for you seeing

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<v Speaker 2>Deebo back on the field.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he looks like two thousand and in twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 3>Deebo Samuel, he's wearing nineteen. He's taking handoffs out of

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<v Speaker 3>the backfield, he's catching the short passes, lots of screens

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, his physique looks good. And that's what

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<v Speaker 3>that's what you're worried about with Deebo Samuel. That's Zeke

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<v Speaker 3>can get out of hand very quickly. But like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>remember the he was coming off of that twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 3>two season, which wasn't a good year for him, and

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<v Speaker 3>he went back and he watched the tape the following

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<v Speaker 3>off season and he didn't like what he saw, and

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<v Speaker 3>he came back inspired in twenty twenty three and he

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<v Speaker 3>didn't have a twenty twenty one like season. That was

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<v Speaker 3>his real breakthrough year, but it was better. So I

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<v Speaker 3>think that that's the reasonable, you know, optimistic expectation for

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<v Speaker 3>him is that he's back to that twenty twenty three form.

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<v Speaker 3>And Tim Kalakami made this point, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>want to steal it from him, but he noted that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, having Deebo Shamuel on the team aughta mean

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<v Speaker 3>that they don't have to lean on Christian McCaffrey for

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the pass plays that they did last year.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember early in the season, Christian McCaffrey was finishing with

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and fifty combined yards in like ninety five

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<v Speaker 3>of those were receiving yards, and so a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>the wear and tear, a lot of the touches that

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<v Speaker 3>he took last year were uh, receiving touches. So I

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<v Speaker 3>think that they're going into the season wanting to make

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<v Speaker 3>sure that Christian McCaffrey is better preserved than he was

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<v Speaker 3>a year ago. And we've all been thinking, oh, that's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be related to calin Black. It's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be related to Jordan James. I think it's also going

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<v Speaker 3>to be related to Deebo Samuel. So the addition of

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<v Speaker 3>Deebo Samuel helps the team in that regard as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Matt third block of camp begins today, these these four

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<v Speaker 4>day blocks and then an off day, and they've had

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<v Speaker 4>the jog through practices. I saw you wrote about some

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<v Speaker 4>of the early trends. It popped into my feed early

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<v Speaker 4>early here.

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<v Speaker 6>Doing this show.

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<v Speaker 4>I was able to skim it what without giving it

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<v Speaker 4>away because we obviously want people to go and read

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<v Speaker 4>it the athletic But what has stood out to this

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<v Speaker 4>point as some of the positive trends through the first.

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<v Speaker 6>Couple of blocks, and what maybe is concerning.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean it's not all bad news. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that there are a couple of position groups that have

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<v Speaker 3>stood out as real strengths, real real deep positions, and

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<v Speaker 3>those are cornerback and linebacker. And I think the addition

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<v Speaker 3>of Raheem Morris, who's a sort of a dB specialist

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<v Speaker 3>throughout his career and also a guy who's whose teams

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<v Speaker 3>have come up with a lot of interceptions at times,

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<v Speaker 3>is really helping. I think he recognizes who his cornerbacks are,

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<v Speaker 3>what their strengths are, and he's putting them in position

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<v Speaker 3>to capitalize on those strengths. So those two positions look good.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, anytime you've got Fred Warner and Drake Greenlaw

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<v Speaker 3>basically in the middle of your defense, it's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a better defense. There are some concerns though, and

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<v Speaker 3>defensive end to me is just you know, sticking out

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<v Speaker 3>like a sore thumb. That should be better in a

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<v Speaker 3>few weeks when you know the Bosa is going full

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<v Speaker 3>speed and Michael Williams might be uh coming back to practice.

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<v Speaker 3>But it sort of exposes beyond them, just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the dearth of talent there. You know, none of these

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<v Speaker 3>guys has has ever been a sack master beyond beyond Bosa.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that that's going to be another concern

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<v Speaker 3>this year. Maybe Raheem Morris can sort of scheme the

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<v Speaker 3>forty nine ers around that, but that's that's been a

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<v Speaker 3>problem area. And the other problem area with with all

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<v Speaker 3>these injuries, that they don't really have any camp competitions anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, most it's usually you know, they had maybe

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<v Speaker 3>half a dozen going into camp, but you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>in five of those instances the one of the guys

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<v Speaker 3>were in one case both of the guys hurt. So

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<v Speaker 3>that iron sharpened iron cliche you here all the time

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<v Speaker 3>not really applying right now because that there's not a

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<v Speaker 3>second piece of iron or sharp in the gains as

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<v Speaker 3>far as the competition. So those are those are some

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<v Speaker 3>of the themes that are a few more that I

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<v Speaker 3>put forward. But I think that there's probably a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit more positive going on than maybe. If you're a

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<v Speaker 3>casual fan, you're you're picking up right now, Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>Never a shortage of topics down in Santa Clara. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>let you get back to work. We'll let you figure

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<v Speaker 2>out your travel plans for week one in five weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll talk to you soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks, Matt, all right, anytime guys talk to you soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate There. He is Matt Barrows from The Athletic. You

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<v Speaker 2>can check out all of his latest articles at The

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<v Speaker 2>Athletic or check them out on social media on Twitter

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<v Speaker 2>as well. Matt Barrow's with great forty nine er coverage

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<v Speaker 2>coming up next, We've got the cooler of content. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you'll hear some sites in sounds from forty nine ers

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<v Speaker 2>training camp and you will hear from Kevin to comparing

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty seventeen Warriors to the twenty twenty six Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 2>seventy six Ers. All that and more. Next in the

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<v Speaker 2>Cooler of Content, it's Murph and Marcus with JD in

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<v Speaker 2>this morning on the Sports Leader.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, everyone till this is.

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<v Speaker 6>The cooler he's been in.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to murphin Marcus on the Sports Leader.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, indeed, it is the Murph and Market Show on

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<v Speaker 2>a Wednesday morning minus Murph. Surprise, surprise, he's back on

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<v Speaker 2>And JD, We've got an interesting topic today. In the

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<v Speaker 2>Cooler of Content, it's Kevin Durant forever Warrior, trying to

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<v Speaker 2>maybe rewritee some Warriors history. I should say a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of conversation going on about Lebron James and his decision

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<v Speaker 2>to take his talents to Philadelphia, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>comparing it to Kevin Durant joining the Warriors in twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>Kd's got different takes here was KD just a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of days ago, given his thoughts on the Philadelphia seventy

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<v Speaker 2>six Ers having more twenty points scores than the Warriors

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<v Speaker 2>did in twenty seventeen, and how the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>league and social media viewed it as a problem at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, you know, like their contenders for sure.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a kid. You don't think so.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm just asking you.

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<v Speaker 7>Last time they play bought three twenty points scores on

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<v Speaker 7>the team, they said it was unfair, which is the team?

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<v Speaker 5>Ivison?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, they got four twenty five point scores in the seat,

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<v Speaker 7>So he goat that they will be a contender.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, they will be a great team to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, there's no question that the seventy six

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<v Speaker 2>ers are going to be a contender. I guess the

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<v Speaker 2>question is, how do you compare it? To Kevin Durant

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<v Speaker 2>joining the Warriors in twenty seventeen. Now KD is going

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<v Speaker 2>roster versus roster on paper and comparing the total points

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<v Speaker 2>per game for each of the players versus the overall

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<v Speaker 2>resume in my opinion, because Kevin Durant did not stop

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<v Speaker 2>there with the audio, he also went on social media

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<v Speaker 2>to clap back. Maybe forgot the log out of his

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<v Speaker 2>Burner account, or maybe he forgot the log into his

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<v Speaker 2>Burner account and started taking shots at some of his

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<v Speaker 2>former teammates, saying that Klay Thompson never an MVP candidate

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<v Speaker 2>in nothing, Draymond Green fourteen points per game, seven rebounds,

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<v Speaker 2>six to six, and Steph and Joel are essentially the

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<v Speaker 2>same because they're both MVPs. Now, I think I disagree

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<v Speaker 2>with all three of those statements because you can't compare

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<v Speaker 2>this version of Joel Embiid to a unanimous MVP in

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<v Speaker 2>Steph Curry. You also just can't look at the box

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<v Speaker 2>score with Draymond Green because you know his impact is

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<v Speaker 2>way bigger beyond the box score. And then to take

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<v Speaker 2>a stray at Klay Thompson, who in his prime was

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<v Speaker 2>arguably the best two in the entire league offensively and defensively.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of weird to see Kevin Durant trying to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of shape his own narrative to maybe take some

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<v Speaker 2>of the heat off of him after he joined the

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<v Speaker 2>Warriors team after his team lost a three to one

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<v Speaker 2>series to the Warriors in twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, Klay Thompson at that point was the

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<v Speaker 4>ultimate robin. He may not have been the best robin

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<v Speaker 4>in the league, but he was right up there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>top three, top top two, top five, like however you

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<v Speaker 4>want to categorize it. But I think and I agree

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<v Speaker 4>with you, that the Sixers obviously immediately are contenders. But

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<v Speaker 4>it's different because that Warriors team that Kadi joined was established.

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<v Speaker 4>The seventy six Ers team is not established at all.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a tremendous amount of unknowns. Embiid is a shell

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<v Speaker 4>of his former self, which I'm with, you can't use

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<v Speaker 4>this Steph comparison in that vein because we're not talking

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<v Speaker 4>about twenty nineteen Joel Embiid.

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<v Speaker 2>At this stage.

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<v Speaker 4>Maxi is awesome and an All star, but at a

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<v Speaker 4>budding superstar. But he has not accomplished anything in the

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<v Speaker 4>game that to this point Steph and Clay hadn't accomplished

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<v Speaker 4>in fairness there. And look, Jalen Brown's a Finals MVP,

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<v Speaker 4>He's in that conversation to this point of his career.

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<v Speaker 4>I think of being the ultimate Number two or the

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<v Speaker 4>ultimate Robin. I think maybe the way things played out

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<v Speaker 4>with Boston led people nationally to think that it was

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<v Speaker 4>more of a one in a one A than it

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<v Speaker 4>actually and I think, as we talked about earlier, that

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<v Speaker 4>might have been part of why Boston was so willing

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<v Speaker 4>to move on from Jalen Brown. But there are a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of unknowns as to how these pieces, talented as

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<v Speaker 4>they may be, will fit together with Philadelphia and Lebron

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<v Speaker 4>joining that nix.

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<v Speaker 2>That Warriors team was.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely completely established in a rhythm, had won seventy three games,

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<v Speaker 4>had won a title, already should have won a second title.

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<v Speaker 4>Steph was a two time MVP unanimous in the seventy

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<v Speaker 4>three and nine year and then they just dropped KD

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<v Speaker 4>in the Harrison Barnes slot of the roster, and it

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<v Speaker 4>was an absolutely seamless fit from a basketball standpoint. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that Warriors team, by far, in my opinion, is better

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<v Speaker 4>than this Sixers team with Lebron getting dropped into it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would absolutely agree with you. Now it's a

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<v Speaker 2>different situation with this Sixers team not being able to

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<v Speaker 2>play a game yet with Jaylen Brown. So we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>how they look and how that all fits in. But

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<v Speaker 2>this is a Sixers team that went forty five and

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<v Speaker 2>thirty seven last year and lost in a second round

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<v Speaker 2>of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 4>It goes back to the I think it was Dean Oliver,

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<v Speaker 4>the analytics legend in basketball circles, who put out the

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<v Speaker 4>number on social media of all of the usage of

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<v Speaker 4>all of the individuals. And it was Maxi, and it

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<v Speaker 4>was Embeied, and it was Lebron, and it was it

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<v Speaker 4>was Jalen Brown. And the usage added up from last

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<v Speaker 4>year with all of these guys individually to like one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and thirty percent. So that's thirty percent usage that's

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<v Speaker 4>going to have to decline from somewhere, probably in some

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<v Speaker 4>form or fashion, from all four.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not easy to do.

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<v Speaker 4>If you remember, I mean Draymond took a step back

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<v Speaker 4>in terms of looking to try to score absolutely, and

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<v Speaker 4>that was coming off of a year where Draymond was

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<v Speaker 4>a thirty eight percent three point shooter.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's something to bring up a lot. Draymond was

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<v Speaker 2>improving tremendously as a three point shoot until KD came in.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he became became hesitant to shoot the ball because

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<v Speaker 2>he shouldn't be shooting the ball when you have those

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<v Speaker 2>scores on the team. And that kind of played out

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<v Speaker 2>through the remainder of his career.

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<v Speaker 4>He completely stopped focusing on scoring because they had other

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<v Speaker 4>scoring And I don't know if you recall, you probably do.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you remember what Klay Thompson said when KD came

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<v Speaker 4>and he was asked about, you know, sacrificing or maybe

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<v Speaker 4>taking taking a lesser role because of KD. He said,

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<v Speaker 4>I ain't sacrifice in ish. Hmm, That's exactly what he said, Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>in terms of, you know, hey, he gets the ball

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<v Speaker 4>kicked to him, catch and shoot, and they wanted that

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<v Speaker 4>at that point.

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<v Speaker 6>It wasn't a selfish issue or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the system at the time.

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<v Speaker 4>He was that good and that was the system and

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<v Speaker 4>that was going to be his role. But basically the

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<v Speaker 4>way and Steph at that point was the was the

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<v Speaker 4>guy who I do think did take a minor step back,

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<v Speaker 4>not that his numbers reflected. He was still uh, top

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<v Speaker 4>two three in the game at that stage. If you

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<v Speaker 4>recall it was it was Lebron and KD at that

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<v Speaker 4>point that were sort of the best two in the game,

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<v Speaker 4>and then Steph was right there as the third or

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<v Speaker 4>the two A or the one C or however you

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<v Speaker 4>want to categorize it at that point. But that team

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<v Speaker 4>had it dialed. From a collaborative flow rhythm standpoint. It

0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:22.040
<v Speaker 4>was just the perfect compilation of skill sets and offensive system.

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<v Speaker 4>And oh, by the way, the defensive system was perfect

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<v Speaker 4>two with all the switchability and the like. And then

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<v Speaker 4>you drop Kevin Durant in there, and so you had

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit more of the one on one ability

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<v Speaker 4>of Durant when you needed it. But Durant, because he

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<v Speaker 4>was so damn efficient in the mid range and so

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<v Speaker 4>good in any system, like, he could just play in

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<v Speaker 4>the flow for forty five minutes of a game and

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<v Speaker 4>then in the last three minutes you could take the

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<v Speaker 4>game over and win it if teams were going to

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<v Speaker 4>try to take away Steph or take away somebody else.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it was such a perfect fit at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>and it resulted in championships and Kevin Durant winning finals

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<v Speaker 2>MVP as well, but you still kind of have this

0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 2>narrative that Katie had to join the Warriors, and it

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<v Speaker 2>feels like that narrative is still stuck in ahead of Katie,

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<v Speaker 2>which is why he's trying to rewrite some of his history.

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<v Speaker 2>It's where Klay Thompson responded on social media saying, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 2>you good? Why you call me up by my government name?

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<v Speaker 4>It just continues to seem, doesn't it like he doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>have the fondest appreciation for the three years that he

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<v Speaker 4>was here.

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<v Speaker 7>No.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he hates the fact that he doesn't get all

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<v Speaker 2>the credit in the world and he's viewed as a

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<v Speaker 2>ring chaser for joining this team after losing a three

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<v Speaker 2>to one series that season.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you're spot on with that, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>he felt he didn't quite get enough of the credit

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<v Speaker 4>for being the Finals MVP.

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<v Speaker 2>In two of those years.

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<v Speaker 4>And basically, I would bet internally as stacked as the

0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:49.160
<v Speaker 4>Warriors were, And that's part of.

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:51.080
<v Speaker 2>This conversation and debate today.

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't be surprised if internally Durant is of the

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<v Speaker 4>belief like, hey, we don't win either one of these

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:00.560
<v Speaker 4>if I don't come, and then the.

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<v Speaker 2>Legacies of all these dudes are different, Yeah, which is

0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:07.280
<v Speaker 2>wild to say. When they won before and after Kevin Durant,

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:07.960
<v Speaker 2>was there no doubt?

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:10.840
<v Speaker 4>And that's where twenty twenty two is the ultimate in

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:14.439
<v Speaker 4>terms of because it was. And I will admit fully

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 4>that I often wondered, had Durant not come, would they

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:23.320
<v Speaker 4>have won another one? Like we know they won in fifteen,

0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 4>We know they lost in sixteen with the circumstances and

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:29.720
<v Speaker 4>Draymond's suspension and all of that. Would they have won

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<v Speaker 4>another one seventeen eighteen nineteen had Kevin.

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<v Speaker 2>Durant not come.

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<v Speaker 6>I initially had leaned no.

0:26:40.680 --> 0:26:42.879
<v Speaker 4>But it's funny when they went back and won in

0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 4>twenty two with a completely different team, essentially with Steph

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 4>and Clay coming back off the injury in Draymond, that

0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:55.520
<v Speaker 4>actually changed my opinion of seventeen eighteen nine.

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:58.680
<v Speaker 2>I think they probably would have gotten another one. Yeahsight,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd say, to answer your QUI question, as Kevin Durant,

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<v Speaker 2>he would say no, answer your question, would say no.

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 2>To answer your question, as Draymond Green, he would say yes.

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:10.119
<v Speaker 2>And guess what. Draymond Green had a response yesterday on

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:11.200
<v Speaker 2>his podcast.

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:11.760
<v Speaker 5>You're Gonna Get This Pod?

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:15.639
<v Speaker 2>Here was Draymond Green on The Draymond Green Show, given

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:20.240
<v Speaker 2>his response on KT's latest comments comparing the Warriors in

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 2>the Sixers or is it really a comparison, Draymond.

0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 7>Green, everyone's making a big deal out of kd's comments

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 7>on Lebron joining the Sixers. KD said, the last time

0:27:29.600 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 7>they put three twenty point scores on the team, they

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:34.040
<v Speaker 7>said it was unfair, which was the Warriors team I

0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:34.359
<v Speaker 7>was on.

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:36.200
<v Speaker 5>The Sixers got four to twenty.

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:38.199
<v Speaker 7>Five point scores on this team, So hell yeah, I

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:39.919
<v Speaker 7>think they're going to be a contender number one.

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 5>I think that's KD giving them their respect.

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<v Speaker 7>Y'all make it as if kat was saying, oh, man,

0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 7>Lebron did the same thing KD did. When people try

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 7>to negatively throw out there like oh he did what

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 7>KD did, I don't really respect that.

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:53.120
<v Speaker 5>I think.

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<v Speaker 7>To understand his statement, though, you also have to understand

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 7>the way kdview basketball.

0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 5>The way kdview basketball is very Uncle drewish.

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:04.960
<v Speaker 7>This game will and always will be about buckets.

0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:06.680
<v Speaker 5>That's how Katie viewed the game.

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<v Speaker 7>So when KAD said, Yo, they got four twenty five

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 7>point scores, you have to understand that KD mind what

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 7>that means that is how KDC the game, so he's

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<v Speaker 7>going to mention it to twenty five point scores.

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 5>He also said that the.

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<v Speaker 7>Sixers are better on paper than the Warriors were in

0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 7>twenty sixteen seventeen. I don't know that I can agree

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:28.440
<v Speaker 7>with that. I don't really think it works, but that's

0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 7>Kd's opinion.

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think it works either. Draymond Green, and

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:33.639
<v Speaker 2>I think those are two important things to kind of

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:37.160
<v Speaker 2>bounce off there. From Draymond Green's comments, He's right, it's

0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 2>not the same. Katie was in his prime in his

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 2>mid twenties when he joined the Warriors. Lebron is now

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 2>in his forties joining this Philadelphia team. The second opinion

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 2>he had is about how Katie views a game of basketball.

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Uncle Drewish, it's all about buckets, young blood. The game

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:54.840
<v Speaker 2>is all about scoring. But no, it's not that simple,

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 2>because going back to Katie's comparison on paper of this

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.720
<v Speaker 2>seventy six Ers team versus the Warriors team, you got

0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 2>to dive deeper than just a points per game. What

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 2>we were just saying about the boss score, Draymond Green

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 2>and the defensive ability of a Klay Thompson and hell,

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:12.280
<v Speaker 2>even the versatility of a guy like Andre Gudala.

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<v Speaker 4>He's right, and and I think Draymond explains how KDE

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:20.479
<v Speaker 4>views it really well, and I think, I mean, it's

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 4>spot on, But yeah, there is more to the game.

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:24.840
<v Speaker 6>Than than just buckets and just scoring.

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 4>And it's it's fit in usage and flow and all

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 4>of those things offensively, and then it's the ability to

0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:35.320
<v Speaker 4>defend and come up with a system to play both ends.

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 4>And and I also took similarly the way Draymond did

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 4>the initial part of like I didn't think when I

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 4>heard the KD clip that we played a couple of

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 4>times that he was necessarily taken a shot at at

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 4>the Warriors or at his time. But I think the

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 4>follow up with the with the burner, you know that,

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 4>and and Draymond joked about that as well on social media.

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:05.840
<v Speaker 4>But I think that that's when I thought, Okay, that

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 4>that hit me a little bit a little bit different.

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 2>And then even when you pile it on from his

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 2>comment a couple of weeks ago about how Katie viewed

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:17.200
<v Speaker 2>the entire organization as like an underdog organization, which makes

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 2>sense if you talk about pretty Steph Clay and Draymond

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 2>but they've also turned into one of the best dynasties

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 2>in the NBA, and they won before you got there,

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Katie totally.

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<v Speaker 4>I also I also sort of give him the benefit

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 4>of the doubt on the underdog organization comment, just based

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 4>on I think it's it's you got to think of

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 4>it in terms of Katie's perspective on the Warriors, when

0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 4>when he came into the league, and he came into

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:45.160
<v Speaker 4>the league, what the year after we believe and when

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 4>he was still what a supersonic? Yeah, we tried one

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 4>year as a supersonic exactly right, and so that was

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 4>the year after we believe. So that's like in the

0:30:57.600 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 4>you know what the the year were the Warriors won

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 4>I think forty eight games and missed the playoffs after

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:04.120
<v Speaker 4>we Believe and then Baron Davis wanted out and then

0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 4>everything kind of fell apart. But I think Katie's perception

0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 4>of the Warriors growing up is that of anybody's perception

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 4>of the Warriors growing up that's older than maybe the

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 4>age of I don't know, thirty two.

0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Yeah, it's a lot different when we were showing

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 2>up at Oracle and you gotta freek chalupa because I

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 2>scored one hundred points.

0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 4>I Katie remembered those days, I think from being a

0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:30.479
<v Speaker 4>kid growing up following the league, and then also I

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 4>think remembered what they became after his rookie year and

0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 4>Seattle turned into Oklahoma City and the Warriors were back

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 4>to being in a really bad way there nine, ten, eleven, twelve,

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<v Speaker 4>all the way up until twenty thirteen when it started

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 4>to flip with Steph Curry and Klay Thompson and Draymond Green.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but now we're at the point where Kevin Durant

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<v Speaker 2>is criticizing the twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen Warriors as well.

0:31:57.840 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 2>Everybody's a critic, including NFL executives around the league. Yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>the Athletic and Mike Sando dropped their quarterback tier list,

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<v Speaker 2>and there are still critics on Brock Party about being

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<v Speaker 2>or should I say not being a top ten quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>We will react to the QB tier list before we

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<v Speaker 2>check in with Blade Tidwell this morning at nine to

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<v Speaker 8>I think he's really established himself as an upper tier

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<v Speaker 8>quarterback who is probably not going to go, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>to into cheer one unless he were to really put

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<v Speaker 8>it on his back and maybe do some things physically.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, it's harder to do. But all the comments

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<v Speaker 8>on him are pretty much positive. I think he's just

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<v Speaker 8>he's had a career high number in this thing. Is

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<v Speaker 8>votes for the best they've ever been. I don't, but

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<v Speaker 8>I don't think anyone's saying he's necessarily going to go

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<v Speaker 8>to A one. I think people still do give some credit,

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 8>I think rightfully so to Kyle Shanan, who does a

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 8>great job with the offense. But shoot, this is not

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<v Speaker 8>a bad place to be. He's tied for eleventh with

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<v Speaker 8>what is tied with Killer Williams. I believe m hm,

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<v Speaker 8>And you know, you'd probably if I had to go

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<v Speaker 8>with the next five games, I'd probably take Rock Purty.

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<v Speaker 2>The voice of Mike Sando from The Athletic who joined

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<v Speaker 2>closer to the NFL season. Once Mike Sando drops his

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<v Speaker 2>QB Tier list, it's one of the most popular articles

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<v Speaker 2>that comes out every single year, not just because of

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<v Speaker 2>how great of a rider Mike Sandowy is. It's because

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<v Speaker 2>he pulls fifty total coaches and executives from around the

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<v Speaker 2>league to get their thoughts and their opinions on the

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<v Speaker 2>best quarterbacks in the league. And you just heard him

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<v Speaker 2>give his thoughts on Brock Purty, who was ranked eleventh

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<v Speaker 2>according to these fifty NFL coaches and executives. Now it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a no brainer. When you look at this

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<v Speaker 2>tier list. There's your usual suspects right at the top

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:35.279
<v Speaker 2>of the tier, your elite quarterbacks, your tier one quarterbacks,

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:38.720
<v Speaker 2>led by Patrick Mahomes, who is still considered the number

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<v Speaker 2>one quarterback in the league despite having a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a down season and recovering from a knee injury himself.

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<v Speaker 2>Number two, Josh Allen, the Kid out of Fireball California

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<v Speaker 2>with the Buffalo Bills. Matthew Stafford the defending MVP at

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<v Speaker 2>number three, actually tied at number two with Josh Allen,

0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 2>and then Joe Cool two point zero Joe Burrow. I

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<v Speaker 2>apologie Joe Montana fans Joe Burrow at number four. That

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:06.239
<v Speaker 2>cuts off the first tier. Then you get into the

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Lamar Jackson Justin Herbert debate me personally, I think that

0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 2>Lamar Jackson could be considered a Tier one quarterback, but

0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 2>we're splitting hairs here. In the top ten Justin Herbert

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<v Speaker 2>from the Chargers number six, Dak Prescott number seven, Drake

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:24.959
<v Speaker 2>May and Jared Goff tied at number eight, Jordan Love

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 2>number ten. Then we get to your boy brock Party

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<v Speaker 2>at number eleven, which I don't think is too unfair

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:35.799
<v Speaker 2>of a ranking, despite the fact that Murphy and I

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<v Speaker 2>did our top ten quarterback rankings just a couple of

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:41.240
<v Speaker 2>weeks ago, and Murphy and myself both had brock Party

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<v Speaker 2>at number nine in the NFL kind of in that

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<v Speaker 2>same range. It feels like out after you get outside

0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 2>of tier one, you can kind of mix and match

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 2>to your own personal preference where you rank Brock Party,

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<v Speaker 2>but according to this survey, survey says he's right in

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<v Speaker 2>the mix with Kayleb Williams, Jaden Daniels, Aker Mayfield, Sam Darnold,

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan Love, Jared golf In, Drake may your reaction to

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<v Speaker 2>where brock Party was ranked in these QB tiers, I.

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:12.360
<v Speaker 4>Think it's about right in terms of the overall number.

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 4>I would probably have him up a couple of spots.

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 6>No real qualms with the tier one.

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 4>I think that Lamar being on the fringe there and

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 4>the top tier two quarterback is an indicator that maybe

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 4>he's going to be on a little bit of a

0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:33.200
<v Speaker 4>decline or some of the availability issues that have plagued

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:36.839
<v Speaker 4>him or maybe hurt his mobility which has been such

0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:40.000
<v Speaker 4>a big part of his You know why he's so

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:43.759
<v Speaker 4>dynamic is a quarterback in addition to being able to

0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 4>make big plays with his arms. So Mahomes Alan Stafford Burrow,

0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:55.399
<v Speaker 4>I like, and I think are accurate. Lamar certainly would

0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 4>be the next guy in that whether you want to

0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 4>put him, as you said, in one or tier two.

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<v Speaker 6>Here's where it.

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 4>Gets a little interesting for me, Like and this is

0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:10.279
<v Speaker 4>so that's five? I think clear cut, yes, justin Herbert

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:14.600
<v Speaker 4>has got all the tools. Justin Herbert's got all the tools,

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:18.200
<v Speaker 4>he doesn't have the playoff success to this point. And

0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:20.560
<v Speaker 4>I think in some ways he's having a is he

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 4>having like an identical career to Philip Rivers.

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Pretty close great during the regular season, kind of disappears

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:31.000
<v Speaker 2>in the postseason and just yeah, and always viewed as

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 2>higher than the overall team win lost success because he

0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:39.759
<v Speaker 2>looks like a quarterback, he talks like a quarterback, and

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:42.480
<v Speaker 2>plays like a pretty damn good quarterback during the regular season.

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<v Speaker 2>We just haven't seen that playoff success. We haven't seen

0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 2>that clutch gene that we've seen from other some of

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:47.960
<v Speaker 2>these other quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'll even give the benefit of the doubt because

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:53.239
<v Speaker 4>of everything you said. Looks like a quarterback, talks like

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 4>a quarterback, acts like a quarterback. The numbers kind of

0:37:56.160 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 4>speak for themselves. As I like to say, the numbers

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:01.920
<v Speaker 4>are the numbers, whether you know the eye test been

0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 4>damned on that. So I'll even give Herbert as as

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:07.719
<v Speaker 4>clearly a tier two and it's fine if you want

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:10.839
<v Speaker 4>to put him at six. Where I start to think

0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:15.799
<v Speaker 4>there's a legitimate debate is when you get into Dak Prescott,

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 4>Drake May, Jared Goff, Jordan Love, Brock Purdy, and even

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 4>Caleb Williams now because I think you could make the case, like,

0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:27.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, there's a lot going on here, Like Dak

0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:29.759
<v Speaker 4>has a lot of great regular season numbers in and

0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:34.040
<v Speaker 4>of his own right, but again he, in a similar

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<v Speaker 4>fashion to Herbert, has the lack of the playoffs success

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:42.359
<v Speaker 4>or the lack of overall team success that I think

0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:44.239
<v Speaker 4>you know you would want to see. But again, how

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:46.480
<v Speaker 4>much of that is tied to quarterback play versus other

0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:50.319
<v Speaker 4>factors and all of that, But I don't know, man, Like,

0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:52.920
<v Speaker 4>if you wanted to tell me you'd put brock Perty

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<v Speaker 4>ahead of Dak Prescott, I'd be fine with that, if

0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:56.959
<v Speaker 4>you wanted to tell me you'd put brock Perty ahead

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<v Speaker 4>of Drake May. Considering we're talking about one one great

0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:04.560
<v Speaker 4>year to this point for Drake May, I think Perdy

0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:09.160
<v Speaker 4>has done more for longer with that clearly, and also

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:11.840
<v Speaker 4>has made it to a super Bowl in addition to

0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 4>multiple playoff wins in multiple seasons at this stage. So

0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:22.400
<v Speaker 4>and again that's where I feel like Perdy gets penalized

0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:28.600
<v Speaker 4>unfairly for being paired with Kyle Shanahan specifically, So I

0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:32.120
<v Speaker 4>also think Brought Perdy is better than Jordan Love. I

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:34.440
<v Speaker 4>think Jordan Love's the most overrated quarterback in the NFL

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:37.000
<v Speaker 4>at this point. I think he's good, not great. I

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:39.160
<v Speaker 4>think he's still kind of living off the back end

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 4>of that twenty twenty three season when he ended up

0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:46.920
<v Speaker 4>playing the forty nine ers and had the great game

0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:48.960
<v Speaker 4>against Dallas, ended up playing the forty nine ers before

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:51.719
<v Speaker 4>the forty Niners came back and beat them. And then

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:53.800
<v Speaker 4>I think Caleb Williams is sort of on the ascent,

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:56.840
<v Speaker 4>and look, I get it, Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, Baker Mayfield,

0:39:56.920 --> 0:39:59.319
<v Speaker 4>Sam Darnold, Trevor Lawrence, Jaye Hurt, Like, all these guys

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:01.720
<v Speaker 4>are in the same same tier, in the same tier,

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:06.000
<v Speaker 4>So it's not necessarily an argument about level of play.

0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 6>But I think Party to me feels more like coming in.

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't have had an issue if you wanted to

0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:15.640
<v Speaker 4>put Caleb Williams given the year he had on par

0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:20.040
<v Speaker 4>or closer to Rock Party. But both of those guys

0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:21.640
<v Speaker 4>may be ahead of some of these others. And then

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 4>I think Jared Goff is the ultimate in system and

0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:27.839
<v Speaker 4>everything has to be right, even more than Brock Purty.

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<v Speaker 2>Is yeah, I mean because we saw Jared Goff take

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:31.680
<v Speaker 2>a step last year when Ben Johnson left to go

0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:34.160
<v Speaker 2>coach Caleb william with the Chicago Bears. So when I

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<v Speaker 2>did my top ten lists, I had Brock Party and

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 2>Caleb Williams both ranked above Dak Prescott, Drake May, Jared Goff,

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:43.759
<v Speaker 2>and Jordan Love. Like I had Brock Party at number ten,

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 2>I think I had Caleb right around seven or a

0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:49.040
<v Speaker 2>because I do think that he's on the rise. Dak Prescott.

0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:51.319
<v Speaker 2>I thought Matt Mayoko had the perfect line the other day,

0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:54.160
<v Speaker 2>so that might be the most overrated but also most

0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:57.160
<v Speaker 2>underrated quarterback in the league. And I think he does

0:40:57.440 --> 0:41:01.480
<v Speaker 2>have some really good talent. I also think there's some flaws.

0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:03.879
<v Speaker 2>I think Dak Prescott has taken a step back since

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:05.600
<v Speaker 2>he had that ankle injury a couple of years ago,

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 2>not as mobile as he used to be. You look

0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:09.920
<v Speaker 2>at the mobility of Brock Purty, you look at the

0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:12.719
<v Speaker 2>playoff success. That's why I have Brock ranked a head

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 2>of Jordan Love, ranked ahead of Jared Goff, ranked above

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:18.759
<v Speaker 2>Drake May, who I think after one outlier season where

0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 2>the Patriots had the softest schedule in the NFL. I'm

0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:24.000
<v Speaker 2>surprised to see him in the top ten. Dak Prescott,

0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:26.600
<v Speaker 2>seems like you're still gonna get that love from all

0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:29.440
<v Speaker 2>the Cowboys fans out there. Blah blah blah. But it

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:31.480
<v Speaker 2>is interesting what you say. A lot of people still

0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:36.319
<v Speaker 2>hold Kyle Shanahan against the brock Party argument, but they

0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:39.160
<v Speaker 2>also hold his draft stock against him, like that's what

0:41:39.200 --> 0:41:43.040
<v Speaker 2>Mike Sandels said, Like, these are all NFL executives and

0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:46.239
<v Speaker 2>coaches that had the opportunity to draft brock Party and

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:48.960
<v Speaker 2>they let him fall to the final draft pick. He's

0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:52.200
<v Speaker 2>mister Irrelevant. So it still seems like there's people who

0:41:52.320 --> 0:41:55.160
<v Speaker 2>don't want to validate that they were wrong about passing

0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:57.480
<v Speaker 2>on brock Party, and maybe they just can't believe what

0:41:57.480 --> 0:41:59.960
<v Speaker 2>they're seeing something that we've now seen for five seasons

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:00.920
<v Speaker 2>here in San Francisco.

0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:03.880
<v Speaker 4>And it is interesting too because I think the overarching point,

0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:07.279
<v Speaker 4>and Sando would tell you the overarching thing is the

0:42:07.400 --> 0:42:10.759
<v Speaker 4>tier and not the specific number, because all of these

0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:14.880
<v Speaker 4>guys in this tier are essentially equal, right, It's or

0:42:14.920 --> 0:42:18.919
<v Speaker 4>the level at which can be adjusted by one year

0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:22.200
<v Speaker 4>up and down. So prety tier two, he wasn't tier

0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:25.680
<v Speaker 4>two last year. Party ranks tied for eleventh with with

0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 4>Caleb Williams. He was fourteenth last year, so he actually

0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:34.280
<v Speaker 4>moved up all right, moving three spots, and then his

0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:37.360
<v Speaker 4>his voting average improved as well. I guess he was

0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:40.480
<v Speaker 4>a two point two eight, which, obviously, given the formula

0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:43.320
<v Speaker 4>that he uses, puts him in the you know, clearly

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:43.840
<v Speaker 4>in the twos.

0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Two points to eight sounds like my my GPN high school.

0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:49.680
<v Speaker 2>And obviously you want to have a lower you want

0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:52.759
<v Speaker 2>to yeah, derease JD. Yeah, you want to have a

0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:54.719
<v Speaker 2>well in this, you want to have a lower number. Yeah,

0:42:54.719 --> 0:42:56.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to get ineligible, That's what I'm trying to do.

0:42:56.920 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 4>So his his average improved by h went from two

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:03.239
<v Speaker 4>point four to six to two point two eight, So

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:07.160
<v Speaker 4>eighteen hundreds of a of an addition there.

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:08.839
<v Speaker 2>So my junior year, it's my senior year.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think two point four to six to two

0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:12.960
<v Speaker 4>point seven two.

0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:14.879
<v Speaker 2>Then I'm dropping I'm dropping down JD.

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<v Speaker 6>So yeah, it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think I would have done the ranking a

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 4>little bit differently. But I do think, you know, to

0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:27.840
<v Speaker 4>not have the rage that I think a lot of

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:30.319
<v Speaker 4>forty Niner fans do when stuff like this comes out.

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:36.160
<v Speaker 4>I do think he is appropriately tiered, but I'm sorry,

0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:37.919
<v Speaker 4>like I think there's a case to be made about

0:43:37.960 --> 0:43:39.839
<v Speaker 4>him and Dak. I would put him ahead of May,

0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:43.680
<v Speaker 4>I'd put him ahead of goth at this stage, I'd

0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:46.400
<v Speaker 4>put him ahead of Love. I think, you know, Caleb

0:43:46.440 --> 0:43:49.719
<v Speaker 4>Williams had one year, Jayden Daniels had one year, so

0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 4>i'd put him ahead of both of those, which he is.

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:53.480
<v Speaker 4>I think, you know again, he's ahead of Baker, He's

0:43:53.520 --> 0:43:55.480
<v Speaker 4>ahead of Darnold, He's ahead of Lawrence, which I think

0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 4>is all fair and appropriate.

0:43:57.520 --> 0:43:58.120
<v Speaker 6>But I don't know.

0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:02.160
<v Speaker 4>I feel like coming into this year, he probably should

0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:04.520
<v Speaker 4>be eight or nine.

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:07.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that's exactly where Murphy and I had him

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:09.640
<v Speaker 2>in both of our rankings, two different lists, both had

0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:12.120
<v Speaker 2>him as the ninth best quarterback in the league. And

0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:13.960
<v Speaker 2>we'll see if he can lead the forty nine ers

0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:16.319
<v Speaker 2>back to the Promised Land. But coming up next, we'll

0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:19.040
<v Speaker 2>talk about the future of the San Francisco Giants with

0:44:19.239 --> 0:44:23.439
<v Speaker 2>last night starter Blade Tidwell makes his Camyard debut. We'll

0:44:23.480 --> 0:44:27.040
<v Speaker 2>talk all things Giants baseball with Blade Tidwell next on

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<v Speaker 2>The Sports Leader