WEBVTT - Becerra CANNOT Name One Difference Between Him and Newsom

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<v Speaker 2>800-222-5222 is telephone number 1-800-222-5222. Well, former California Attorney General

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<v Speaker 2>and candidate for governor, Javier Baccaria, has come out of

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden's basement to tell us there's not a dime's

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<v Speaker 2>worth of difference between him and Gavin.

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<v Speaker 1>Javier Becerra is starting to do small two or three

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<v Speaker 1>minute interviews with local outlets. He talked to ABC 10

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<v Speaker 1>the other day. He talked to ABC 7 in the

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<v Speaker 1>Bay Area yesterday. And the one thing that you can

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<v Speaker 1>take away from this governor's race is while over half

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<v Speaker 1>the state thinks that they don't like the current management

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<v Speaker 1>and we're heading in the wrong direction. Javier Becerra is

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<v Speaker 1>just going to be so much more of the same,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe even worse because he is totally bought and

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<v Speaker 1>paid for.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he's a guy who would prefer that you just

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<v Speaker 2>forget there's an election because what his entire strategy is

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<v Speaker 2>based on is the registration advantage the Democrats have over Republicans.

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<v Speaker 2>And if there's no emphasis on the race, then he

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<v Speaker 2>can't do anything stupid and that would upset the imbalance

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<v Speaker 2>in registration, and that's all he needs to win.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately for him, whenever he does decide to open his mouth,

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<v Speaker 1>it does not go well. When asked a very simple

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<v Speaker 1>question of, how are you going to accomplish housing goals

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<v Speaker 1>that Gavin couldn't, he doesn't really have an answer. For

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<v Speaker 1>more on this, Here is ABC7 in the Bay. Raised

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<v Speaker 1>to become California's next governor, Democrat Javier Becerra is betting

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<v Speaker 1>that his experience will help him win the job. Experience

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<v Speaker 1>doing what?

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<v Speaker 2>Good question.

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<v Speaker 1>He has been in some sort of elected or appointed

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<v Speaker 1>office for 30 years. What does he have to show

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<v Speaker 1>for all of his years in the Assembly or in

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<v Speaker 1>Congress or as Attorney General or as HHS except for

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<v Speaker 1>all the missing kids?

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Nancy Pelosi thought he was an idiot. The Biden people

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<v Speaker 2>thought he was an idiot. And he won't answer questions

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<v Speaker 2>for many of us in the California press corps. So

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<v Speaker 2>the voters can't tell that he's an idiot.

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<v Speaker 4>ABC 7 Eyewitness News political reporter Monica Madden sat down

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<v Speaker 4>with the former California Attorney General and U.S. Health Secretary

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<v Speaker 4>to ask what he would do differently than Governor Newsom. Monica,

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<v Speaker 4>what did he tell you?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I sat down with him when he was in

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<v Speaker 5>San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 1>What he'll do differently is I don't think Becerra is

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<v Speaker 1>going to have his own podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Not with Marshawn Lynch.

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<v Speaker 5>Doing a different event earlier this week. And, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>here's the thing. Most polls show that Becerra has a

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<v Speaker 5>double-digit lead over Republican Steve Hilton. And it's a state

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<v Speaker 5>where Democratic voter registration vastly outnumbers Republicans. But with voters'

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<v Speaker 5>frustration over California's direction, I asked the Democrat to make

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<v Speaker 5>his case for why he should lead the state. As

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<v Speaker 5>Javier Becerra crisscrosses the state... He's there for all of

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<v Speaker 5>our Democrats. the Democrat is vowing to take on President Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all he's interested in talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>So that would be year one and year two of

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<v Speaker 1>a Baccaria governorship. What does he do when Trump's gone?

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump's not going to know what hit him.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, boy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure he's real scared of you.

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<v Speaker 5>But in California, his party also has a record to defend.

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<v Speaker 5>And more than half of voters say they are unhappy

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<v Speaker 5>with the direction of the state.

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<v Speaker 1>The exact same poll where Becerra is up by over

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<v Speaker 1>double digits, 54% of the electorate says everything's going wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why he cannot talk about state subjects. If

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<v Speaker 2>he talks about state subjects, there is no defense over

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<v Speaker 2>the condition of the homeless encampments. There is no defense

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<v Speaker 2>over the bullet train. There is no defense over retail

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<v Speaker 2>theft or the insurance crisis. So what do you do

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<v Speaker 2>if there's no defense of your own record? You talk

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<v Speaker 2>about something else.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you think the Newsom administration and the Democratic legislature

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<v Speaker 5>has failed to deliver some of these things for Californians?

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<v Speaker 6>I hope to be able to do things differently. I

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<v Speaker 6>certainly will be a different governor.

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<v Speaker 1>No specifics whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what they do. It's cliches and it's empty words.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if anyone comes in with my background

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<v Speaker 6>and my level of national and state experience.

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<v Speaker 1>What exactly does that qualify him for? He was so

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<v Speaker 1>bad at his job at HHS. They hid him from

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<v Speaker 1>the public during COVID, which was probably the biggest moment

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<v Speaker 1>for that department.

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<v Speaker 2>And when they nominated him for that job, Nancy Pelosi

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<v Speaker 2>was furious that they didn't come to her and ask

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<v Speaker 2>her for her opinion because she would have told them

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<v Speaker 2>to stay far away from this dope.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, In their defense, Biden thought he was nominating somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else for a different job.

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<v Speaker 7>For Secretary of Health and Education, I nominate Javier Baccaria.

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<v Speaker 5>Healthcare, I asked how he could protect Medi-Cal coverage while

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<v Speaker 5>balancing the state budget.

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<v Speaker 6>If we need more revenue, we'll look to make sure

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<v Speaker 6>who's not paying their fair share.

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<v Speaker 2>Never heard that one before. So that means he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to raise your taxes.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a novel concept that in California you can

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<v Speaker 1>run on the, we're going to raise your taxes and

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<v Speaker 1>still win.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the voters go, well, he hates Donald Trump, so

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<v Speaker 2>that's good enough for me. And then he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>turn around and raise your taxes, and then they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to grumble about that as if they had no clue

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<v Speaker 2>that that was exactly what was going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>This state is in a massive budget deficit, partially because

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<v Speaker 1>of Gavin Newsom's expansions of Medi-Cal to people in the

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<v Speaker 1>country illegally. Becerra wants to double down on that, but

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<v Speaker 1>instead of going into further debt, he's going to charge

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else who's not paying their fair share. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>my paycheck on Friday. I feel like I'm paying well

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<v Speaker 1>more than my fair share.

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<v Speaker 5>But he opposes the billionaire tax on November's ballot.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not a supporter of it, but I understand the sentiment.

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<v Speaker 6>And I do believe that we need to have everyone,

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<v Speaker 6>including billionaires in California, pay their fair share.

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<v Speaker 1>He has nothing. He has nothing to say.

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<v Speaker 2>So you have to try to read the tea leaves.

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<v Speaker 2>And if I'm looking at what he's saying here, he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't support this particular measure. We know that the money

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<v Speaker 2>goes to one branch of the SEIU. If I'm reading

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<v Speaker 2>him right, what I think he's going to do is

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to want some kind of tax like that,

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<v Speaker 2>only a tax that results in the money going to

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<v Speaker 2>the general fund and not to one specific union.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he has a lot of benefactors that he needs

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<v Speaker 1>to make happy. So it's not just the SEIU. He's

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<v Speaker 1>got to get the teachers union some more money. He's

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<v Speaker 1>got to get the building trades union some more money.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's also got to make sure that he gets

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<v Speaker 1>the money from the tech bros. It's a delicate balance

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<v Speaker 1>to please everybody, but Becerra is here for it.

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<v Speaker 5>Becerra says he would explore other ways to tax billionaires,

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<v Speaker 5>but didn't identify specifics.

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<v Speaker 1>You could really, if you want to, in the history books,

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what the 2026 Becerra campaign was, two phrases,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have specifics and scheduling conflict.

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<v Speaker 2>And scrub it.

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<v Speaker 1>And scrub it.

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<v Speaker 5>He also wants AI companies to invest more in California's

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<v Speaker 5>schools and communities. Isn't that tax revenue from these companies

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<v Speaker 5>already going toward those things via the general fund?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I don't think though that we see that the

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<v Speaker 6>revenue that we're collecting in the taxes that are paid

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<v Speaker 6>by some of these industries matching the wealth that California

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<v Speaker 6>is helping them create.

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<v Speaker 2>What? Okay, so you're going to chase them out of state.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to Levy additional taxes on the industry

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<v Speaker 2>that allows your state to exist on top of everything

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<v Speaker 2>that they're already paying. And you don't want to allow

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<v Speaker 2>any new data centers to come into the state, which

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<v Speaker 2>is what the Democrats are currently advocating for. How do

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<v Speaker 2>you expect to keep them here? And how do you

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<v Speaker 2>expect to keep those jobs here?

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<v Speaker 5>And among his first priorities, housing. He wants deadlines for

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<v Speaker 5>permits and more help for buyers.

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<v Speaker 6>The only thing they lack as renters versus owners is

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<v Speaker 6>usually the down payment.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no. What we need is we need a

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<v Speaker 2>larger supply of housing. We have a finite number of

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<v Speaker 2>homes because it's impossible to build anything here. The banks

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<v Speaker 2>want to loan people money. What he is advocating for

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<v Speaker 2>is he wants more loans to more deadbeats who are

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<v Speaker 2>not good for the loans. With the state on the

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<v Speaker 2>hook if they don't pay the loan back, which is

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<v Speaker 2>what one of the ballot propositions is all about. That

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<v Speaker 2>does nothing to increase the supply of housing in California.

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<v Speaker 1>And these are usually not programs where everyone can even

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<v Speaker 1>apply for this. It's a lottery system that maybe helps

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<v Speaker 1>like a thousand families a year that does not even

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<v Speaker 1>come close to putting even a tiny percentage point of

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<v Speaker 1>a dent into this problem.

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<v Speaker 2>No, and go back to what happened in 2008 when

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<v Speaker 2>we had the housing crash. The problem with that housing

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<v Speaker 2>crash was that people who should not have qualified for

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<v Speaker 2>the loans were given loans that they could then not

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<v Speaker 2>pay back.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I remember. I was watching late night TV and

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<v Speaker 1>all you would see is those commercials for no money

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<v Speaker 1>down loans for deadbeats in their 20s.

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<v Speaker 2>And what he's advocating for is to go back to that.

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<v Speaker 6>Payment assistance programs so that you could actually buy a house.

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<v Speaker 5>Becerra running on his experience above all else.

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<v Speaker 6>What I intend to do is make sure that I

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<v Speaker 6>launch an effort to keep California buzzing based on what

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<v Speaker 6>I've done.

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<v Speaker 1>That means nothing. Keep California buzzing? Well, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>need to be hammered for the next four years, I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>He is going to win because this is a Democratic

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<v Speaker 2>state and there's just more Democrats and Republicans. It's simple math.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't think they understand how bad this guy

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be.

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<v Speaker 6>I've delivered, so I don't have to make these inflated promises.

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<v Speaker 1>You've made no promises. Hold billionaires accountable and help with

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<v Speaker 1>down payment assistance, maybe. Oh, and go after Trump. He'll

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<v Speaker 1>make that promise.

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<v Speaker 6>And cannot then deliver.

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<v Speaker 5>As for working with the Trump administration, Becerra told me

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<v Speaker 5>he'll work to restore federal funding cuts. And of course,

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<v Speaker 5>you can catch more from my interview with him and

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<v Speaker 5>my earlier interview with Steve Hilton on ABC7news. com. We're just

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<v Speaker 5>in the final weeks before this election.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's up by roughly 20 percentage points, depending on

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<v Speaker 1>which poll you look at.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, at a minimum 18%, maximum 25%.

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<v Speaker 2>My goodness. It's so pathetic.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be one thing if this was like Becerra

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<v Speaker 1>versus John Cox, but... Steve Hilton has actually campaigned, unlike

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<v Speaker 1>anyone in a statewide office I've seen for years and

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<v Speaker 1>years and years. And he has actual policy platforms and

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<v Speaker 1>ideas that are very nonpartisan that could help the state.

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<v Speaker 1>But it does not matter. All that matters in 2026

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<v Speaker 1>is tribalism.

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<v Speaker 2>It reminds me so much of the last mayoral election

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<v Speaker 2>when L.A. had the choice between Rick Caruso and Karen Bass.

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<v Speaker 2>And you have someone who you know is right of

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<v Speaker 2>center versus someone who you know is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a disaster. And they took the disaster willingly out of

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<v Speaker 2>pure partisanship. What you're seeing at the state level now

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<v Speaker 2>is you're seeing a Republican who is right of center,

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<v Speaker 2>who would help get the state back on track, or

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<v Speaker 2>at least not make it any worse. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what he'd be able to accomplish now. with the legislature

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<v Speaker 2>that we currently have, but through appointments and executive actions

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<v Speaker 2>and being the one who would be in charge if

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<v Speaker 2>there was, God forbid, a natural disaster that happens here,

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<v Speaker 2>we'd be in much better hands with him. And he's

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<v Speaker 2>running against someone who you know is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a disaster. If we have the big one with this

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<v Speaker 2>fool in charge, you are on your own. If there

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<v Speaker 2>is more civil unrest that happens in California with this

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<v Speaker 2>guy in charge, You are on your own. If there is,

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<v Speaker 2>God forbid, a hurricane out in the Pacific that floods

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<v Speaker 2>population centers in California, you are on your own. Do

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<v Speaker 2>not expect any help from this guy. And you know

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<v Speaker 2>this going into the election. So don't pretend to be

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<v Speaker 2>surprised the way you were with, oh my God, Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Biden's senile. If only someone told me. None of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you know going into it, He is what he is.

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<v Speaker 2>This is his level of competence. He's not going to

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<v Speaker 2>get better. He's only going to get worse over time.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're willing to sign up for that, fine,

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<v Speaker 2>but don't complain when there's no water in the fire

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<v Speaker 2>hydrants again.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the latest of any interview we have with Javier

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<v Speaker 1>Becerra because that's as much as he'll do. A three-minute

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<v Speaker 1>interview with no specifics.

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<v Speaker 2>God help us. It's the John Phillips show. 800-222-5222 is

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<v Speaker 1>It's at johnnydontlike.com. Our incredibly popular podcast with John Fleischman

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<v Speaker 1>do we have an exciting surprise. Tomorrow, on the newest

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<v Speaker 1>episode of the Accountability Podcast, we have part two, where

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<v Speaker 1>John Fleischman comes back and talks through all of the

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<v Speaker 1>statewide races, as well as the transit tax in the

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<v Speaker 1>Bay Area. We cover all of that on tomorrow's Accountability Podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>premiering at 2.59 tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>And at the end of the month, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be on the road in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I am so excited about this. We are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be doing our first live broadcast in the Bay

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<v Speaker 1>Area at the end of October. Friday, October 30th. Come

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<v Speaker 1>see Johnny and I live at Johnny Foley's in Union

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<v Speaker 1>Square in San Francisco. Very easy to get there on

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<v Speaker 1>BART or Muni. So everyone in the Bay, you got

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<v Speaker 1>no excuse not to come out and say hi. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be there with our friend Susan Shelley from the Howard

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<v Speaker 1>Jarvis Taxpayer Association talking Proposition 43. YesOn43. com. If you go

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<v Speaker 1>to that website, they will mail you a yard sign.

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<v Speaker 1>We're trying to get the message out about Prop 43

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<v Speaker 1>because a yes on 43 means it is harder to

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<v Speaker 1>raise your taxes. And that is a message I believe

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<v Speaker 1>we can all get behind today. So come down with

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<v Speaker 1>us as we spread that message to the Bay Area.

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny Foley's in Union Square in San Francisco from noon

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<v Speaker 1>to 3 on Friday, October 30th.

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<v Speaker 2>And on Election Day, we're doing two shows.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to be here for the regular live show

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<v Speaker 1>from noon to 3, but we come back at 7 p.m.

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<v Speaker 1>for a live and statewide election special on the radio

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<v Speaker 1>and on the YouTubes. From 7 to 9 p.m., you'll

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<v Speaker 1>be able to hear us on KABC in Southern California,

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<v Speaker 1>KSFO in the Bay Area and the North State, and,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, the big KMJ in Fresno. We will also

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<v Speaker 1>be broadcasting on YouTube at johnnydontlike.com until at least 10 p.m.

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<v Speaker 1>So one hour will be exclusive to the Internet only,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I haven't even checked it yet. Let me pull

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<v Speaker 1>out the old phone. Let me go to the YouTube app,

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<v Speaker 1>and let me go to your videos, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to go to live. And we are at 177 likes,

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<v Speaker 1>and the show just got started. The more likes we get,

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<v Speaker 1>the more people check in and hang out in the

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<v Speaker 1>chat room and respond to the news of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>the more YouTube pushes us out to new people, which

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<v Speaker 1>is how this channel grew from 1,000 to almost 9,000

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<v Speaker 1>subscribers in just three months. You hear that, advertisers?

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<v Speaker 2>In the meantime, what do you say we make a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of listeners very happy?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's do that right now. 790k ABC welcomes Bonnie

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<v Speaker 1>luck dialing.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things that is very common in politics

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<v Speaker 2>now is for influencers, people who have large followings on

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<v Speaker 2>social media, to be on the take from political campaigns

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<v Speaker 2>to shill for a specific candidate. The problem for voters,

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<v Speaker 2>or I guess I should say consumers, is that you

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<v Speaker 2>may not necessarily know that your favorite influencer is getting

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<v Speaker 2>paid by that candidate.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was very evident in the 2026 gubernatorial primary.

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<v Speaker 1>Because a certain candidate that had too much money. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Steyer and I'm about to ride the D. Was

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<v Speaker 1>paying all kinds of influencers, including one from Dallas, like

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<v Speaker 1>$ 150, 000 to endorse his campaign. But unlike with radio and

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<v Speaker 1>TV ads, the influencers don't have to tell you they're

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<v Speaker 1>being paid to say that they like Tom Steyer.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's now an effort to change that.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a new law that is going to go

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<v Speaker 1>into effect that would make it so if you are

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<v Speaker 1>an influencer and you're endorsing a candidate, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>disclose if they paid you to do that. For more

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<v Speaker 1>on this, here is Fox 40 in Sacramento.

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<v Speaker 7>Fox 40 is your local election headquarters. Should social media

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<v Speaker 7>influencers have to disclose when they're paid to promote or

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<v Speaker 7>criticize political candidates online? A new California law says they should.

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<v Speaker 7>If not, they could be facing some serious consequences. Thanks

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<v Speaker 7>for joining us here for Fox 40 News at 630.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Eric Harriman.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm Nikki Lorenzo, Fox 40 Capital Report. I would

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<v Speaker 2>also add this to it. It's not even just elected

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<v Speaker 2>officials who do this. It's people who want appointments in

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<v Speaker 2>an administration that hire these people, as hired guns to

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<v Speaker 2>then go out and either predict that that person is

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<v Speaker 2>going to get it or start a campaign that the

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<v Speaker 2>person's going to get the appointment or attack the people

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<v Speaker 2>who they believe are threats to their preferred person getting

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<v Speaker 2>the job.

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<v Speaker 8>Hey, Tom, all this explains what the law requires and

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<v Speaker 8>when it takes effect.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when an influencer posts on social media to endorse

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<v Speaker 3>or oppose a candidate, they certainly make their position clear.

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<v Speaker 3>But what's not always clear, did a campaign pay them

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<v Speaker 3>to say it? Well, now a new California Limes to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure you know.

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<v Speaker 9>The public deserves to know whether or not a post

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<v Speaker 9>from a social media influencer was authentic and organic, or

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<v Speaker 9>if it's really.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, did we really think all of these young

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<v Speaker 1>20-something influencers... gave a damn about Tom Steyer's campaign, especially

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that weren't even from California?

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<v Speaker 2>I think for a lot of it, it's just obvious

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<v Speaker 2>if you're paying attention. And if you're not paying attention,

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<v Speaker 2>you're probably not voting anyway, so who cares?

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<v Speaker 1>We're in a big-ass crisis. Any excuse.

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<v Speaker 2>It's paid political advertising.

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<v Speaker 3>Assemblymember Mark Berman says that's the crux of his new

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<v Speaker 3>legislation just signed by Governor Gavin Newsom, requiring influencers to

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<v Speaker 3>disclose when they have been paid by political campaigns to

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<v Speaker 3>post about candidates or measures on the ballot.

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<v Speaker 9>Newsom, Becerra, and Hilton are all voting no.

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<v Speaker 3>Strict disclosure rules already apply to traditional TV and radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, is Katie Porter getting paid to oppose Prop 40?

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<v Speaker 2>She might.

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<v Speaker 1>We know she got a nice appointment for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Video ads requiring them to identify who paid for the ad.

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<v Speaker 3>But Berman says those rules have not been as clear

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<v Speaker 3>for social media influencers paid to promote political campaigns.

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<v Speaker 9>You deserve to know if a campaign is paying to

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<v Speaker 9>try to influence your vote. And so whether that's on

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<v Speaker 9>TV or that's on radio or that's on television, Facebook.

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<v Speaker 1>There are so many rules and regulations for how political

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<v Speaker 1>advertising can be done on television, on radio, and on print.

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<v Speaker 1>There are all kinds of things that you have to disclose.

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<v Speaker 1>You can say pretty inflammatory things, but it is, to

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<v Speaker 1>use a phrase that's overused, the wild, wild west when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to this technology and this kind of entertainment

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<v Speaker 1>medium has evolved to a point where the people who

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<v Speaker 1>are making the laws don't even know what to do

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<v Speaker 1>about it.

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<v Speaker 6>No.

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<v Speaker 2>And the moment they figure it out, there's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be some new technology that renders it useless.

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<v Speaker 9>Or Instagram or TikTok. Voters have a right to know

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<v Speaker 9>when the person that's making that communication is really just

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<v Speaker 9>a paid sort of operative of the campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>And this isn't just statewide races. Nithya Raman paid thousands

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<v Speaker 1>and thousands of dollars to this influencer, Adam Conover, who

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<v Speaker 1>interviewed her on his podcast a bunch of times. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's one thing if you're interviewing somebody because, well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>an important race and you care about it. Maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>even endorse them. But it makes it a lot harder

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<v Speaker 1>to believe what's going on in that interview when you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting paid to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>And also, here's something that you know is going to happen. Take,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, network television. There are standards in all of

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<v Speaker 2>the big newsrooms against paying people for stories. The National

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<v Speaker 2>Enquirer is happy to pay someone for a story. They

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<v Speaker 2>acknowledge that going into it. But ABC News, CBS News,

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<v Speaker 2>NBC News, they say they're above that. They don't pay

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<v Speaker 2>people for their stories. But here's what they do. If

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<v Speaker 2>they want you to appear on, let's say, Good Morning America,

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<v Speaker 2>and they don't want you to appear on any of

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<v Speaker 2>those other networks, well, you're not an employee, so they

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<v Speaker 2>can't treat you like an employee. And they don't pay

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<v Speaker 2>you for your stories. But here's what they can do.

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<v Speaker 2>They can say, all right, we're going to license your

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<v Speaker 2>photos that we're going to play when your segment is airing.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're going to give you this amount of money

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<v Speaker 2>to license your photos. And we're going to pay for

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<v Speaker 2>you to come to New York City for the interview.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're going to fly you first class. And we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to put you in a suite at the Ritz-Carlton.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're going to give you a per diem budget.

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<v Speaker 2>And they find ways to pay you without actually paying

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<v Speaker 2>you for the story. If you're an influencer and you're

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<v Speaker 2>selling out, let's say to Tom Steyer, and Tom Steyer said, okay,

0:26:03.619 --> 0:26:05.879
<v Speaker 2>I want you to promote me and my campaign to

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<v Speaker 2>your followers on social media, he's not gonna pay you

0:26:10.980 --> 0:26:15.080
<v Speaker 2>for your endorsement. He's not gonna pay you for your support.

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:17.699
<v Speaker 2>What he's gonna say is, I'm gonna pay you for

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<v Speaker 2>consulting services. I'm gonna pay you for social media advice. Whatever.

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:27.360
<v Speaker 2>There's going to be some other excuse with the implied

0:26:30.060 --> 0:26:33.379
<v Speaker 2>exchange that you were also going to promote his campaign.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But what would change now is that influencer would have

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<v Speaker 1>to disclose that Tom Steyer gave me $ 150, 000. And you

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<v Speaker 1>can literally see it, smell it, and feel it. We

0:26:45.890 --> 0:26:48.450
<v Speaker 1>saw it and smelled it and felt it. Well, we

0:26:48.490 --> 0:26:51.210
<v Speaker 1>didn't feel it. We didn't go in the water. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not that crazy.

0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:57.179
<v Speaker 3>Legislation specifically gives the state's political watchdog, the Fair Political

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<v Speaker 3>Practices Commission, the power to fine influencers and political action

0:27:01.380 --> 0:27:09.389
<v Speaker 3>committees for violations, up to $ 5, 000 per violation. The issue

0:27:09.430 --> 0:27:12.869
<v Speaker 3>surrounding influencers and their political posts came to the spotlight

0:27:12.890 --> 0:27:16.710
<v Speaker 3>during the California gubernatorial primary in the spring, when CalMatters

0:27:16.810 --> 0:27:19.129
<v Speaker 3>and the New York Times reported as of April.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at those stupid sneakers.

0:27:23.060 --> 0:27:26.879
<v Speaker 3>Then Democratic candidate Tom Steyer paid more than $ 120, 000 to

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<v Speaker 3>at least eight influencers to post in support of his candidacy.

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<v Speaker 1>And it still didn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>Nope, not on the November ballot.

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<v Speaker 3>At the time, several of those influencers had not publicly

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<v Speaker 3>disclosed they were paid by his campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them was a guy in Texas who was

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<v Speaker 1>asking Tom Steyer about his favorite tacos.

0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:52.240
<v Speaker 3>And it's not just Tom Steyer. Across the country, cases

0:27:52.260 --> 0:27:52.850
<v Speaker 3>have emerged.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I still don't know, but it's always been my

0:27:55.310 --> 0:28:00.030
<v Speaker 1>theory that Tom Steyer did that interview on Real 92.3's

0:28:00.109 --> 0:28:04.330
<v Speaker 1>Jay Cruz show. We're in a big-ass crisis. Because that

0:28:04.390 --> 0:28:07.169
<v Speaker 1>is part of the iHeart cluster in Los Angeles, and

0:28:07.190 --> 0:28:09.510
<v Speaker 1>they did a huge buy on all of those stations.

0:28:09.609 --> 0:28:11.689
<v Speaker 1>And so, hey, would you like to come on our

0:28:11.730 --> 0:28:16.880
<v Speaker 1>hip-hop station and talk about your kicks? I just don't believe,

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:19.780
<v Speaker 1>and maybe I'm wrong, but I don't believe that the

0:28:20.340 --> 0:28:24.080
<v Speaker 1>booking producer for the hip-hop morning show in Los Angeles

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:28.500
<v Speaker 1>would have ever invited Tom Steyer on if upper management

0:28:28.540 --> 0:28:31.830
<v Speaker 1>didn't beg them to because he's doing a big sales buy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd love to know how many 70-something-year-old white guys

0:28:37.150 --> 0:28:40.550
<v Speaker 2>who talk about environmental issues get booked on that show.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Tom Steyer, and I'm about to ride the D.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when we get to December and we do

0:28:49.770 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 1>our drop of the year, for a long time, I

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:54.860
<v Speaker 1>thought Katie had it in the bag with, of course,

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 1>the greatest clip that's ever happened.

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<v Speaker 5>You can smell it right here.

0:28:58.460 --> 0:29:00.870
<v Speaker 1>But Tom Steyer riding the D, I think that is

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<v Speaker 1>a close second.

0:29:02.460 --> 0:29:03.660
<v Speaker 2>It is for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Involving both Republican and Democratic political efforts, paying influencers to

0:29:08.660 --> 0:29:13.430
<v Speaker 3>promote political messages, sometimes without disclosing that content was sponsored.

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<v Speaker 9>I was hearing from people in the campaign world that

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<v Speaker 9>this was happening more and more.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all the more so why Berman, himself a Menlo

0:29:20.150 --> 0:29:23.400
<v Speaker 3>Park Democrat who serves on the Assembly Elections Committee, says

0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:25.860
<v Speaker 3>his bill received bipartisan support.

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<v Speaker 9>Voters have faith in their democracy. when they feel like

0:29:30.900 --> 0:29:33.770
<v Speaker 9>everything's honest and out in the open. But when you

0:29:33.790 --> 0:29:37.690
<v Speaker 9>start hiding things and you start, you know, sort of

0:29:38.610 --> 0:29:42.400
<v Speaker 9>obfuscating with voters about about why you're doing something or

0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:46.630
<v Speaker 9>about who's influencing you to do something, then voters lose faith.

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<v Speaker 3>And a caveat here, Berman's legislation does not apply to

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<v Speaker 3>this election cycle.

0:29:51.750 --> 0:29:53.210
<v Speaker 1>So go nuts, influencers.

0:29:55.350 --> 0:29:58.710
<v Speaker 2>Because the law takes effect.

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<v Speaker 3>In the new year. From there, it will apply to

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<v Speaker 3>all election cycles in the state moving forward. In Sacramento,

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<v Speaker 3>covering local news that matters, Eitan Wallace, Fox 40 News.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if, since this is still allowed and you

0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 1>don't have to disclose it, if the people behind Props

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<v Speaker 1>41 and 42, who are the people that are also

0:30:16.580 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 1>behind No on 40, the billionaire's tax, I wonder if

0:30:20.020 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 1>they're paying any influencers to constantly post about how bad

0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:26.820
<v Speaker 1>this tax is. It would be a decent use of

0:30:26.860 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 1>their money outside of nonstop TV ads.

0:30:30.500 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a good question. Usually, you can tell if

0:30:35.270 --> 0:30:40.250
<v Speaker 2>someone's being paid if they don't typically tweet about politics

0:30:40.450 --> 0:30:44.590
<v Speaker 2>or post about politics or post about a particular subject,

0:30:45.050 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden... they're 24 seven on

0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 2>that subject.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the latest on the new rules for influencers

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<v Speaker 2>Here with an update on the great highway to San Francisco, Mr.

0:31:49.630 --> 0:31:50.290
<v Speaker 2>Randy Wang.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it sure seems that there's a lot of

0:31:54.310 --> 0:31:58.310
<v Speaker 1>deja vu when we have elections. There's always a kidney

0:31:58.350 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 1>bill on the ballot, and there is another one this

0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:03.660
<v Speaker 1>year on Prop 44. You can learn about that on

0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 1>the Accountability Podcast. And yet again... Residents of San Francisco

0:32:09.140 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 1>will vote on the issue of the Great Highway, where

0:32:12.420 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 1>a year and a half ago, voters decided to turn

0:32:16.540 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 1>the Great Highway into a park, except the people who

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 1>actually live in that neighborhood got so pissed off that

0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:27.100
<v Speaker 1>they recalled their supervisor over it. And this issue has

0:32:27.300 --> 0:32:31.590
<v Speaker 1>never been settled because some people love the park and

0:32:31.660 --> 0:32:37.110
<v Speaker 1>some people hate the traffic. So San Francisco voters get

0:32:37.130 --> 0:32:39.930
<v Speaker 1>to vote on the Great Highway yet again. For more

0:32:40.020 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 1>on this, here is NBC in the Bay.

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<v Speaker 8>This coming election day will be something of a deja

0:32:45.060 --> 0:32:48.500
<v Speaker 8>vu for San Francisco voters. For the second time, they'll

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:50.240
<v Speaker 8>be asked to weigh in on the future of the

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:52.710
<v Speaker 8>Great Highway and the new Sunset Dunes Park.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, technically it's the second time, but it's also

0:32:55.450 --> 0:32:58.890
<v Speaker 1>like the fourth time because the recall of Ingardia was

0:32:58.950 --> 0:33:01.870
<v Speaker 1>about this, and then the special election was about this

0:33:01.950 --> 0:33:03.980
<v Speaker 1>as well. And then in the middle of that was

0:33:04.020 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 1>when Lurie appointed that weird pet shop owner to fill

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:07.540
<v Speaker 1>the seat.

0:33:08.580 --> 0:33:11.900
<v Speaker 2>When I was growing up in Orange County, we had

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:15.650
<v Speaker 2>a similar debate that just would never end over what

0:33:15.690 --> 0:33:19.990
<v Speaker 2>to do about the El Toro Air Base. At one point,

0:33:20.030 --> 0:33:23.550
<v Speaker 2>it was going to be a USC was thinking about

0:33:23.590 --> 0:33:26.850
<v Speaker 2>moving down there. They wanted to turn it into an airport,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it ended up as a park.

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<v Speaker 8>NBC Bay Area's Joe Rosado Jr. shows us what's at

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<v Speaker 8>stake for both sides with Prop G.

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<v Speaker 10>On the western edge of San Francisco, near the crashing

0:33:40.670 --> 0:33:45.290
<v Speaker 10>waves of Ocean Beach, a once busy road has become

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<v Speaker 10>a full-time park.

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<v Speaker 1>Except it still has the lane lines on it.

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<v Speaker 10>Back in 2024, San Francisco voters approved Prop K, which

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<v Speaker 10>closed a stretch of the Great Highway permanently to make

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<v Speaker 10>way for Sunset Dunes Park. The result was so controversial.

0:34:05.810 --> 0:34:08.110
<v Speaker 1>It's already a magical, transformational space.

0:34:08.170 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 10>Sunset District residents voted to recall then-supervisor Joel Engardio for

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<v Speaker 10>supporting it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say one thing about San Francisco voters. If you

0:34:17.660 --> 0:34:20.440
<v Speaker 1>piss them off, they will kick you out of office. L.A.

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:21.700
<v Speaker 1>voters are too apathetic.

0:34:22.330 --> 0:34:24.069
<v Speaker 2>They did it to the DA, they did it to

0:34:24.090 --> 0:34:25.910
<v Speaker 2>the school board, they did it to this guy.

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<v Speaker 10>But ever since Sunset Dunes officially became a full-time park

0:34:31.350 --> 0:34:35.850
<v Speaker 10>in April of 2025, it's been embraced by its fans.

0:34:36.150 --> 0:34:39.410
<v Speaker 11>It has been amazing just to see the community and

0:34:39.430 --> 0:34:41.430
<v Speaker 11>the city kind of make this space their own.

0:34:41.650 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 10>Sunset resident Heidi Moseson, who campaigned for Prop K as

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:49.040
<v Speaker 10>part of the Friends of Sunset Dunes, calls the park

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<v Speaker 10>a success.

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:54.020
<v Speaker 1>It's It's literally just a highway that's closed to people.

0:34:54.620 --> 0:34:55.100
<v Speaker 1>Closed to cars.

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:58.270
<v Speaker 2>Did you see what Rocket Scientist just posted in the chat?

0:34:58.690 --> 0:35:01.230
<v Speaker 1>Make it into a nude beach? No thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>They might recall the entire board of supervisors if they

0:35:04.430 --> 0:35:04.910
<v Speaker 2>do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I never understand about this, look, I'm all

0:35:07.969 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 1>for a park, but... We're talking about an area that's

0:35:11.140 --> 0:35:13.799
<v Speaker 1>less than a mile away from Golden Gate Park, which

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:16.870
<v Speaker 1>is a massive, massive, massive gem.

0:35:17.130 --> 0:35:21.730
<v Speaker 11>Seeing the way neighbors have created little music stations or

0:35:22.030 --> 0:35:25.210
<v Speaker 11>chalk art or made memorials in certain places.

0:35:26.590 --> 0:35:28.379
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, it really makes a park when we

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:30.259
<v Speaker 1>have a memorial to someone that got run over.

0:35:30.940 --> 0:35:31.300
<v Speaker 11>Yeah.

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:34.100
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if the headstones are the type of

0:35:34.219 --> 0:35:34.900
<v Speaker 2>art you're wanting.

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 10>Since its opening, the park has grown with new artworks

0:35:38.969 --> 0:35:40.790
<v Speaker 10>and a new kids' playground.

0:35:41.110 --> 0:35:44.549
<v Speaker 11>So right behind me is Sunset Dunes' newest addition. It's

0:35:44.570 --> 0:35:48.770
<v Speaker 11>called Shipwreck Cove. This is our one stretch of coastline

0:35:48.790 --> 0:35:51.969
<v Speaker 11>here in San Francisco. But for people who use wheelchairs,

0:35:52.070 --> 0:35:56.020
<v Speaker 11>for people who use walkers, for parents pushing strollers, bikes, rollerblades,

0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:57.140
<v Speaker 11>you can't do that on the sand.

0:35:58.489 --> 0:36:02.410
<v Speaker 10>Despite the park's loyal fan base, critics are still upset

0:36:02.450 --> 0:36:05.190
<v Speaker 10>at the closure of the Great Highway, which they say

0:36:05.250 --> 0:36:08.650
<v Speaker 10>has dumped thousands of cars onto residential streets.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this was kind of a thing where the entire

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:13.760
<v Speaker 1>city got to vote on this, but it really affected

0:36:13.820 --> 0:36:16.140
<v Speaker 1>people that lived in the sunset, and that's what pissed

0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 1>off the people in the sunset.

0:36:18.219 --> 0:36:21.780
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's also what upsets people about apps like Waze,

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:25.930
<v Speaker 2>because instead of people taking the normal freeways and thoroughfares,

0:36:26.469 --> 0:36:30.630
<v Speaker 2>Waze directs them to residential streets to bypass the traffic,

0:36:31.130 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 2>and suddenly residential streets that had no traffic ever now

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:37.160
<v Speaker 2>are like the Indianapolis 500.

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:43.689
<v Speaker 12>And the impacts are slower ambulance response times, People having

0:36:43.730 --> 0:36:48.670
<v Speaker 12>to take circuitous routes to get around. Just really difficult

0:36:48.730 --> 0:36:50.469
<v Speaker 12>and has impacted the quality of life.

0:36:50.660 --> 0:36:54.520
<v Speaker 10>Retired San Francisco police commander Richard Correa also lives in

0:36:54.580 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 10>the neighborhood and has a different take on the park's impact.

0:36:58.420 --> 0:37:02.690
<v Speaker 12>You can't take 15,000 to 20,000 cars a day and

0:37:02.810 --> 0:37:04.910
<v Speaker 12>squeeze them into a neighborhood without impact.

0:37:05.670 --> 0:37:08.990
<v Speaker 10>But now the park's future is going back to the voters.

0:37:09.500 --> 0:37:12.340
<v Speaker 10>Opponents of the park have now placed Prop G on

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:15.700
<v Speaker 10>the November ballot, which would reopen the Great Highway to

0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:19.260
<v Speaker 10>traffic during the week while remaining a park on weekends

0:37:19.340 --> 0:37:22.489
<v Speaker 10>and holidays. It's similar to the compromise that was in

0:37:22.550 --> 0:37:24.550
<v Speaker 10>place before Prop K passed.

0:37:24.730 --> 0:37:26.930
<v Speaker 1>You know, I constantly think to myself, I would have

0:37:26.969 --> 0:37:29.750
<v Speaker 1>a completely different opinion of San Francisco if I had

0:37:29.770 --> 0:37:32.870
<v Speaker 1>to actually drive and find parking in it. You're just

0:37:32.930 --> 0:37:36.210
<v Speaker 1>walking around and taking Waymos and maybe the occasional Muni.

0:37:36.489 --> 0:37:38.870
<v Speaker 1>It's so much fun. But having to park in that

0:37:38.950 --> 0:37:40.090
<v Speaker 1>city would be a nightmare.

0:37:40.750 --> 0:37:43.330
<v Speaker 2>It's easier to find an Easter egg than a parking spot.

0:37:44.010 --> 0:37:46.489
<v Speaker 12>And we're simply saying, well, then let's share it. Let's

0:37:46.530 --> 0:37:48.879
<v Speaker 12>share it during the week when people need to get around.

0:37:49.550 --> 0:37:52.640
<v Speaker 12>And on the weekends and holidays, let's recreate here.

0:37:53.820 --> 0:37:57.300
<v Speaker 10>In the windows of the sunset, evidence of the mixed

0:37:57.340 --> 0:37:59.950
<v Speaker 10>feelings people have for the park and Prop G.

0:38:01.150 --> 0:38:03.770
<v Speaker 1>I feel like residents are still so divided that even

0:38:03.810 --> 0:38:06.390
<v Speaker 1>if this passes, it'll be on the ballot next year

0:38:06.410 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 1>to take it away.

0:38:08.860 --> 0:38:10.580
<v Speaker 2>Like the kidney dialysis pills.

0:38:11.000 --> 0:38:13.419
<v Speaker 1>It's just going to be a constant debate in San

0:38:13.460 --> 0:38:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Francisco's West Side.