WEBVTT - Freedom God Sends

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<v Speaker 1>Well, good morning and welcome. We are continuing to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about freedom and how God provides freedom in our lives,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe you're asking the question, what does freedom have

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<v Speaker 1>to do with our overall well being? Well, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the founding Father said it pretty clearly. We hold these

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<v Speaker 1>truths to be self evident, that all people are created

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<v Speaker 1>equal and endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights

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<v Speaker 1>like life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. And so

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<v Speaker 1>in this country we have seen freedom as a God

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<v Speaker 1>given gift. It's not something we get from the government.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not something we get from royalty, our kings and queens.

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<v Speaker 1>But God gives each person freedom and with freedom comes choice,

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to pursue life, liberty, and fulfillment, a meaningful

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<v Speaker 1>kind of lives. So freedom plays a big role in that.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've been talking about the attributes of God. God

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<v Speaker 1>hears us, God heals trauma in our story and in

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<v Speaker 1>our lives. And today we're thinking about the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>God sends and so when you begin to analyze that

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<v Speaker 1>and think about that, God has a pattern of sending

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<v Speaker 1>people Exodus three ten. So now go I'm sending you

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<v Speaker 1>to Pharuoh to bring my people, the Israelites out of Egypt.

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<v Speaker 1>So we kind of seen these concepts. The covenant, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the relationship the Biblical model tells us, is the

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<v Speaker 1>nature of the relationship we have with God. We're in

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<v Speaker 1>a covenant relationship, and that just means that God has

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<v Speaker 1>a part, certainly the majority part, but we have a

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<v Speaker 1>part too. That God gives us grace and forgiveness and love,

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<v Speaker 1>and we, in response to that grace and love and forgiveness,

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<v Speaker 1>we follow. We have a responsibility to listen and obey

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<v Speaker 1>and become a disciple. And so this idea of covenant

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<v Speaker 1>then is built around an idea of sending. You can

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<v Speaker 1>go all the way back to Abraham and the original Covenant,

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<v Speaker 1>and God is sending Abraham away from his home to

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<v Speaker 1>the land of Canaan to the Promised Land. And that

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<v Speaker 1>process goes on throughout the scriptures. A pattern starts to develop.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very vivid in Isaiah six. Maybe you've heard these words.

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<v Speaker 1>In the year that King Uziah died, I saw the

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<v Speaker 1>Lord high and exalted, seated on the throne. The train

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<v Speaker 1>of his robe filled the temple above him, where the

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<v Speaker 1>seraphim each had six wings, with two they covered their

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<v Speaker 1>faces with two they covered their feet with who they

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<v Speaker 1>were flying, and they were calling to one another. Holy, Holy, Holy,

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<v Speaker 1>is the Lord God Almighty. The whole earth is full

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<v Speaker 1>of his glory. And at the sound of their voices,

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<v Speaker 1>of the doorposts and threshold shook, and the temple was

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<v Speaker 1>filled with smoke. Whoe to me, I cried, I'm ruined,

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<v Speaker 1>for I'm a man of unclean lips, and I live

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<v Speaker 1>among a people of unclean lips. In my eyes of

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<v Speaker 1>seeing the King, the Lord Almighty. And then one of

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<v Speaker 1>the seraphims flew to me with a live coal in

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<v Speaker 1>his hand. He had taken with tongs from the alter,

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<v Speaker 1>and with it he touched my mouth and said, see

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<v Speaker 1>this has touched your lips. Your guilt is taken away,

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<v Speaker 1>your sin is atoned for. And then I heard the

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<v Speaker 1>voice of the Lord saying, whom shall I send and

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<v Speaker 1>who will go for us? And I said, here, am

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<v Speaker 1>I send me. That's a very powerful image of the

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<v Speaker 1>calling of Isaiah. And notice how quickly and closely his

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<v Speaker 1>deliverance from what he calls unclean lips and unclean people

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<v Speaker 1>goes from being forgiven to being sent. Sometimes we think

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<v Speaker 1>the journey from our brokenness to the place where we're

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<v Speaker 1>sin is some long, long journey, but in this story

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<v Speaker 1>it's very closely related. And I think for a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of us, it's a question that we could ask, who

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<v Speaker 1>will go for me? Who will I send? In what

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<v Speaker 1>way am I being sent? And to whom? And where

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<v Speaker 1>am I being sent? Am I being sent? It is

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<v Speaker 1>a part of the conversation that has to do with freedom,

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<v Speaker 1>real freedom, real purpose in life, real meaning, and that

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<v Speaker 1>fits into the pattern Jesus in the Great Commission sends

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<v Speaker 1>us to make disciples in Jerusalem and Judaea, Samaria and

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<v Speaker 1>then to the ends of the earth. That's worth stopping

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<v Speaker 1>and thinking about. It's not just a random phrase, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just poetry. You'll be my disciples, and I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to go and make disciples, first in Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria,

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<v Speaker 1>and then to the ends of the earth Jerusalem home

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<v Speaker 1>right where you live, right in the places that you're

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<v Speaker 1>already occupying, Judea, the surrounding community, Samaria close by, but

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<v Speaker 1>very different people, very different belief systems, and then to

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<v Speaker 1>the ends of the earth. I want us to keep

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<v Speaker 1>that in mind as we chat today. John twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus sums it up. Peace be with you. As the

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<v Speaker 1>Father has sent me, I am sending you. Maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>most famous verse in the Bible, John three sixteen. God

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<v Speaker 1>so loved the world that he sent his son, the sending.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of this story, of this legacy, of this covenant

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<v Speaker 1>is that God has sent Jesus, and just as God

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<v Speaker 1>sent him, now he's sending us. Where are you being sent?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think about that much? Is that a question

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<v Speaker 1>that occupies any of your consciousness? Calling the sending is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty important. Otherwise it's just a job. Otherwise it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a function of logistics. I just need to make money

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<v Speaker 1>and spend money, and there's not a ton of fulfillment

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<v Speaker 1>in just living logistically. Paul gets into the conversation in

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<v Speaker 1>Romans ten, and this is what he writes in verses

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<v Speaker 1>twelve through fifteen. For there's no difference between jew and gentile.

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<v Speaker 1>The same Lord as Lord of all, and richly blesses

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<v Speaker 1>all who call on him. For everyone calls on the

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<v Speaker 1>name of the Lord will be saved. How then, can

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<v Speaker 1>they call on the one that they have not believed in?

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<v Speaker 1>And how can they believe in the one whom they

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<v Speaker 1>have not heard? And how can they hear without someone

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<v Speaker 1>preaching to them, And how can anyone preach unless they

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<v Speaker 1>are sent? As it is written? And how beautiful are

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<v Speaker 1>the few of those who bring good news? What an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing thought that you and I are being sent to

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<v Speaker 1>bring good news? What does that look like in this

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<v Speaker 1>culture and in this world, into a world where people

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<v Speaker 1>are angry and afraid and constantly upset and highly divided

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<v Speaker 1>along party lines and political lines and cultural lines and

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<v Speaker 1>concepts of social constructs that we're four are against, that

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<v Speaker 1>generally need way more conversation than four are against. Part

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<v Speaker 1>of what gets into the conversation is this, most of

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<v Speaker 1>us don't feel like we're qualified that if you and

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<v Speaker 1>I are being sent to make the world a better place.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, what Jesus says is to bring the Kingdom

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<v Speaker 1>of God alive on earth, so that what's being done

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<v Speaker 1>on earth is the same as what's being done in heaven.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a pretty big order, And most of us would go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I think you have the wrong person. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have much to offer. I'm way too messed up

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<v Speaker 1>for that. I have way too much of a story.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to It doesn't sound like fun to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure what I would say, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>most of us feel that we would like to make

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<v Speaker 1>a difference. We'd like to make a difference in our home.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd like to make a difference in our family, our community.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd like to be significant in some way in the

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<v Speaker 1>places where we work and live and serve. And for

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<v Speaker 1>those that attend church, certainly like to make a difference there.

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<v Speaker 1>But our insecurities get in the conversation. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>i'm enough. I don't think I have any special gifts

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<v Speaker 1>or talents. I think we're in a pretty good company.

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<v Speaker 1>I think in Mark nine, there's this phrase that I

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<v Speaker 1>think is so powerful. The story goes like this. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a man who has a child, and the child is

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<v Speaker 1>believed to be possessed by a demon, and the father says,

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<v Speaker 1>it's often thrown him into the fire or the water

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<v Speaker 1>to kill him. And then the father says, but if

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<v Speaker 1>you can do anything, take pity on us and help us.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can, Jesus, everything is possible for the one

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<v Speaker 1>who believes. And immediately the boy's father said, I do

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<v Speaker 1>believe helped me overcome my unbelief. I think that's symptomatic

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<v Speaker 1>of all of us. We believe a little, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of unbelief that would have to be overcome.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's worth thinking about. I think it's worth considering.

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<v Speaker 1>So the story then of Moses's sending, as we continue

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<v Speaker 1>this story of Exodus, is he's lived forty years in

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<v Speaker 1>Egypt that ends abruptly when he kills a guard, and

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<v Speaker 1>then when it's discovered, when he knows that people know

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<v Speaker 1>about it, he flees for his life and he flees

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<v Speaker 1>to the land of Midian and there he meets a family,

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<v Speaker 1>and he is given a wife in marriage. And now

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<v Speaker 1>for the next forty years he tends his father in

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<v Speaker 1>law's flocks. He doesn't even go into business for himself.

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<v Speaker 1>He just takes care of his father in law's sheep.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty content, he's moved on. There's a lot in that

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't make a lot of sense, leaving behind family

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<v Speaker 1>and friends and responsibilities and just fleeing, just running and

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<v Speaker 1>starting a brand new life. And after he's been tending

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<v Speaker 1>sheep for forty years, he notices one day as he

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<v Speaker 1>is walking around that there is a bush that's caught

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<v Speaker 1>on fire and it's not being consumed. And that's a

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<v Speaker 1>weird thing, and he says, I'll just go over and

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<v Speaker 1>see what it's like, what it's happening. And he goes

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<v Speaker 1>to check it out, and when he gets there, he

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<v Speaker 1>hears the voice of God saying, Moses, take off your shoes,

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<v Speaker 1>this is holy ground, and so Moses does. He obeys,

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<v Speaker 1>takes off his shoes and says, what's going on? What

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<v Speaker 1>is this about? And God begins to say to him, Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a plan, and the plan was to give

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<v Speaker 1>the children of Israel the land of Canaan and to

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<v Speaker 1>make them a great nation. And I haven't forgotten my promises.

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<v Speaker 1>And the time has come for you to confront Pharaoh

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<v Speaker 1>and for the story to continue. And so I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to go and talk to Pharaoh. I'm sending you

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<v Speaker 1>to Pharaoh, and Moses is like, I think he may

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<v Speaker 1>be messed up. We'll continue the story right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back. You're listening to Healing Conversations on KABC seven

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<v Speaker 1>ninety M Dave Roberts. We're talking about being sent. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the God who sends. Moses says at Mount Horab,

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<v Speaker 1>he's noticed in the fortieth years of tending his father

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<v Speaker 1>in law, sheep a bush that's on fire but not

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<v Speaker 1>being consumed and winning approaches. He hears the voice of God.

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<v Speaker 1>Here I am Moses, don't come any closer. This is

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<v Speaker 1>holy ground. Take off your sandals. He does. God begins

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<v Speaker 1>to teach him and talk to him about it's you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sending you to go to Pharaoh to let my

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<v Speaker 1>people go, And immediately Moses says, well, who am I

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<v Speaker 1>I'm inadequate, i am not the person to speak to God.

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<v Speaker 1>But God says, I'll be with you. I'll go with you,

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<v Speaker 1>and the conversation continues to unfold. I'll go and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>say to them you need to do this. And they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to ask me who sent me? What is your name?

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<v Speaker 1>Moses asked, and God says, I am who I am.

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<v Speaker 1>And that doesn't mean a lot to us. But what

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<v Speaker 1>it meant to Moses and what it would mean to

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<v Speaker 1>the people, is I am the I am. I am

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning in the end. I am the source of life.

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<v Speaker 1>I am the source of creation. You tell them that

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<v Speaker 1>the prime mover, the first cause, the very beginning, is

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<v Speaker 1>the one who sent you, the one who has built

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<v Speaker 1>everything and is continuing to lead in this process. And

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<v Speaker 1>so the conversation continues, and God reiterates, now, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a generational promise, and I want you to go and

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<v Speaker 1>get all of the elders of Israel together and tell

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<v Speaker 1>them that the promise is not forgotten, that I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to fulfill my commitment to Abraham and Isaac and Jacob

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<v Speaker 1>tel Fay wrote that you want to go into the

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<v Speaker 1>wilderness for three days to sacrifice to your God. And

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<v Speaker 1>so that's the plan. And then Moses says, but what

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<v Speaker 1>if they don't believe me? And now God gives Moses

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<v Speaker 1>three miraculous signs. The first thing he says, is what's

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<v Speaker 1>in your hand? And he says a staff. Throw it

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground. It becomes a serpent. Moses picks it

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<v Speaker 1>up and it becomes a staff again. And then he says,

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<v Speaker 1>slip your hand into your cloak, and Moses did, and

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<v Speaker 1>when he took it out, it was covered in leprosy.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he said, put it back in your cloak,

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<v Speaker 1>and Moses did, and when he took it out it

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<v Speaker 1>was restored and healthy. He said, then, what if they

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<v Speaker 1>still do not believe me? And God said, take a

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<v Speaker 1>cup of water and pour it on the ground, and

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<v Speaker 1>he did. And when it hit the ground, it became blood.

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<v Speaker 1>So now they will believe you. Here are three signs.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Moses has more objections, still not wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>be the person who's being not feeling qualified, not wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. And so now he says, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not very eloquent. I don't speak well. I'm a little

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<v Speaker 1>slow in my speech. And God says, but I created

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<v Speaker 1>the human mouth. That's not any problem for me to overcome.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Moses finally says, I just don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>just send someone else. I just don't want to. And

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<v Speaker 1>so God becomes angry and demands that Moses go, that

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<v Speaker 1>he be sent, and Moses goes. He goes and tells

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<v Speaker 1>his father in law what he's about to do, and

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<v Speaker 1>he says, go and do well at it, and off

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<v Speaker 1>they go, and he comes to the elders and he

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<v Speaker 1>explains everything to them and they believe him, and he

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<v Speaker 1>offers the signs so that the people understand that God

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<v Speaker 1>is with him, and off they go then to visit

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<v Speaker 1>Pharaoh and demand that the children of Israel be released.

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<v Speaker 1>This very elaborate call and sending of Moses, this long story,

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<v Speaker 1>the objections, the sense of not being qualified. Several things

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<v Speaker 1>come out of that that God is assending. God, as

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<v Speaker 1>the Father has sent the Son, we are also being sent.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you being sent? And why are you being sent?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a personal question worth asking. We have purpose in

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<v Speaker 1>our life. At one point the New Testament it says

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<v Speaker 1>that God has prepared good works in advance for us

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<v Speaker 1>to do. We don't have to go figure it all out.

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<v Speaker 1>We just have to find it. You have to be

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<v Speaker 1>open to it, we have to be listening for it.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's a couple of things to keep in mind

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<v Speaker 1>as you think about being sent. Number One, God sends

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<v Speaker 1>in response to needs. God cares about people, and he

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<v Speaker 1>cares about all people, those who've lived and died, and

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<v Speaker 1>those who lived now and those who live in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>God sends real people with real skin to real people

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<v Speaker 1>who are in need. And when Jesus is asked the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest in the law, he said, it's to love the

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<v Speaker 1>Lord your God, and to love your neighbor as yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>And the person who asked the question said, but who's

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<v Speaker 1>my neighbor? And he tells the story of the Good Samaritan,

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<v Speaker 1>about a man who falls among thieves and a priest

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<v Speaker 1>comes by and refuses to help, And a levite comes

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<v Speaker 1>by and refuses to help. A priest would be of

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<v Speaker 1>obviously priestly descent from Erin. A levite would also be

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<v Speaker 1>of priestly descent from Eron, but it would be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of the administrative structure, won the pastoral role, the

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<v Speaker 1>intercessor one, the administrator in the temple. But the levite

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<v Speaker 1>also passed by. And then finally a Samaritan came, and

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<v Speaker 1>the samaritan took the person and put him on his

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<v Speaker 1>own donkey and took him to an inn and dressed

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<v Speaker 1>his wounds and paid for the care, and told the

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<v Speaker 1>innkeeper if anything else was needed, he would return and pay.

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<v Speaker 1>And Jesus then asked the crowd who was a neighbor

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<v Speaker 1>to the man who fell among thieves? And they respond,

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<v Speaker 1>the one who showed him mercy, Oh, and do likewise.

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<v Speaker 1>There are people in your world, in Jerusalem, where you

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<v Speaker 1>already live, in your home family, who are in need.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your response to that? There are people in the

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<v Speaker 1>surrounding community in need. There are people who are different

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<v Speaker 1>from us in our own city and world, And then

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<v Speaker 1>there are needs around the world. God sins and response

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<v Speaker 1>to need. Are we attentive enough to sense the need,

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<v Speaker 1>to recognize it, to see it. Number two, God sins

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<v Speaker 1>with intent to deliver. God's still in the business of deliverance.

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<v Speaker 1>We pray a part of it in the Lord's prayer.

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<v Speaker 1>Deliver us from evil, deliver our world. Deliver me from

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<v Speaker 1>the physical limitations and failings of my body. Deliver me

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<v Speaker 1>from sadness. Deliver me from depression, Deliver me from addiction,

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<v Speaker 1>from brokenness, from financial distress, from bondage, dysfunction and justice, prejudice, pain, grief.

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<v Speaker 1>The message of the Gospel still deliverance. It's still about

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<v Speaker 1>making the world a better place. It's still about improving

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<v Speaker 1>the lives of people. God responds to need, and he

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<v Speaker 1>does so with the intent to deliver. We are being

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<v Speaker 1>sent to help to make a difference. That's the ultimate promise,

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<v Speaker 1>that the whole world is on a path towards deliverance.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the biblical story. One day there'll be no more sorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>There'll be no more sadness, than'll be no more death

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<v Speaker 1>or sickness. Are parting. This path is towards deliverance, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're being sent in this. Are you listening, are you noticing?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you looking and longing to be a part of

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<v Speaker 1>the solution in the world. A part of helping can't

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<v Speaker 1>fix everything, but what if each of us did our part,

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<v Speaker 1>just paid attention. Number three. God sends with a master plan.

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<v Speaker 1>God's working for the good. He has a master plan

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<v Speaker 1>to prosper us and not to harm us, to give

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<v Speaker 1>us a hope in a future. It doesn't always seem

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<v Speaker 1>like a good plan, and there's always roundabout ways. And

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<v Speaker 1>even that verse I quoted from Jeremiah as Jeremiah speaking

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<v Speaker 1>to the people in exile, and the message is settled down.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to be in exile for a while, but

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<v Speaker 1>I know the plans I have for you. That sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>our lives are in a tough spot, that it's not

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<v Speaker 1>going well. It's so important. Children of Israel have been

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<v Speaker 1>in captivity and they must have thought many times that

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<v Speaker 1>God doesn't care. But God has a master plan and

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<v Speaker 1>he's working on the plan. He's bringing the broken circumstances

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<v Speaker 1>to a place of healing. And that master plan promises

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<v Speaker 1>that we'll be together again, that our morning will turn

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<v Speaker 1>to dancing, that we're in a big picture and we

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<v Speaker 1>have the ultimate hope. Number four. God sends with providence

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<v Speaker 1>and power, and that simply means that God sends us,

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<v Speaker 1>but he also provides what we need and gives us

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<v Speaker 1>the strength that we need to accomplish what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>He shows Moses simple things, the staff in your hand,

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<v Speaker 1>your own physical body, simple water. These things can be

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<v Speaker 1>used by me in a powerful way to demonstrate. And

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<v Speaker 1>God gives power to the weak and strength to the weary.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when we're sin we don't know that we

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<v Speaker 1>have the strength we need, or the wisdom we need,

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<v Speaker 1>or any of that stuff. But God comes beside us

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<v Speaker 1>in that. And then number five, God sends with mercy

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<v Speaker 1>for our weakness. Moses has a million excuses, has a

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<v Speaker 1>million excuses, and God very patiently listens to each one

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<v Speaker 1>and reassures Moses that he'll be present with him. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like that it's Moses's weaknesses that make him

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<v Speaker 1>so aware of his needs for God's presence. That's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>consistent with the story of Scripture that Paul learns that

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<v Speaker 1>it's in his weaknesses that he's strong, because when he

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<v Speaker 1>realizes his weaknesses and becomes dependent on God, that's when

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<v Speaker 1>things really change. That's when progress is really made, that's

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<v Speaker 1>when good things really happen. So we're being sent. We're

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<v Speaker 1>being sent? Do you think about that? Do you linger

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<v Speaker 1>over that possibility? And where might you be sent? Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria,

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<v Speaker 1>the ends of the earth. What would that look like

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<v Speaker 1>in your story. We're going to unpack that right after

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<v Speaker 1>this break. Welcome back. You're listening to Healing Conversations on

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<v Speaker 1>KABC seven ninety. I'm Dave Roberts. I'm welcoming into the studio.

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<v Speaker 1>Eric mclinahan. Welcome Eric.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, Dave. How are you doing pretty good? How

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<v Speaker 2>are you on this fine Sunday morning?

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<v Speaker 1>Think I'm doing okay. I still fighting a little cold,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm pleased that we've been through two segments without

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<v Speaker 1>a coughing fit. Well, you made the mistake of going

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<v Speaker 1>on vacation.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that you are go, go, go, and then

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes when you slow down and go on vacation, your

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<v Speaker 2>body's like, well I'm going to catch up and get.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you don't have to go to work today,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saving this forum. That is how

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<v Speaker 1>it feels.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I feel like every year I get sick on

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<v Speaker 2>like December eighteenth, Yeah, and I get healthy enough, just

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<v Speaker 2>enough to where I can do Christmas Eve, but my

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<v Speaker 2>voice feels bad doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like every year that happens. Well, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>because you finished the musical. That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>You did the musical, and I'm around all those little

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<v Speaker 2>kids and they give me some kind of cold and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then well and then you're the same thing. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>your body takes a breath after all that. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>reach the finish line.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's true, and then I just I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>I've like felt full voice at a Christmas even a

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<v Speaker 2>long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>This story is interesting to me because my first gut

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<v Speaker 2>reaction I feel this way reading a lot of especially

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<v Speaker 2>Old Testament stories right where I'm like, well, that's not fair.

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<v Speaker 2>He got a burning bush, right I God spoke to

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<v Speaker 2>him directly. That would be nice. I would love if

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<v Speaker 2>God would just come down in the form of a

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<v Speaker 2>burning bush and be like, Eric.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to do exactly this.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that would like clear up a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of confusion in my life. But I think if I

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<v Speaker 2>get anything out of this story, I get that a

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<v Speaker 2>burning bush doesn't even cure all of your doubts and insecurities.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's wild that God like pretty directly

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<v Speaker 2>said this is what I want you to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm real, I'm here, I'm with you and that, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not even insecurities and even and when everything kind

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<v Speaker 1>of goes poorly, it doesn't even reassure him that it's

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<v Speaker 1>he's still on the right track. You know, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to hear a lot of lament in the next few chapters,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, of you know, why is it like this?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is it so hard? If this is what you wanted,

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<v Speaker 1>why is it so Yeah? So isn't it interesting? Though?

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<v Speaker 1>How we like?

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<v Speaker 2>We we we do have moments a lot where we

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<v Speaker 2>feel like God shows up so specifically and so profoundly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we just forget so fast right, life comes

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<v Speaker 2>at us and it's almost like it didn't happen, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know what I mean. Yeah. One of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>I experience in talking to people, especially people who are

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<v Speaker 1>going through crisis, sometimes they'll say to me, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>such a calm about this, you know, And I've learned

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<v Speaker 1>to say to them, don't discount that. It's not natural

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<v Speaker 1>to feel calm right now. I think that's God saying

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be okay, you know, stay the course,

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<v Speaker 1>trust in it. But how hard it is to just

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<v Speaker 1>trust perceptions and feelings and thoughts and ideas, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you know, churches will nurture thoughts and ideas that are

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<v Speaker 1>they there? Are we hoping they'll be there. It's very

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<v Speaker 1>much an imperfect process and trying to be attentive and listen.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know that you know, in this story

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to see very visible, audible actions of God

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<v Speaker 1>and the story, you know, the pillar of fire by night,

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<v Speaker 1>the cloud, pillar of cloud by day, get they just

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<v Speaker 1>become a part of the landscape. They just are one

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<v Speaker 1>more piece of you know, the everyday life, and they

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<v Speaker 1>no longer see the significance of God's presence or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're all kind of prone to that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think we uh, you know, I know, growing up,

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<v Speaker 2>if you went into ministry, if you were going to

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<v Speaker 2>go to seminary, if you were going to start working

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<v Speaker 2>at a church. You know, we use the phrase I

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<v Speaker 2>was called into ministry. Yeah, the Lord called me into ministry.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that that kind of maybe confuses the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that everyone is called into ministry, that everybody has

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<v Speaker 2>a role to play in what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do, Although I also think, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>testify to this ministry is a unique vocation. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I've shared that when I was struggling, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>my teen years feeling like I was called to preach

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<v Speaker 1>or called to be a pastor, that my pastor there said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what, if you can do anything else

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<v Speaker 1>with your life and be happy, you should do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that served me well, because this is a hard

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<v Speaker 1>it's a hard way to make a living for multiple reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, some is people are difficult, you know, sheep

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<v Speaker 1>are difficult sometimes. But also you can't disclose everything that

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<v Speaker 1>goes on behind the scenes. You have to just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of live in it and continue to be nice. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't explain everything and every decision because that might

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<v Speaker 1>cause people to feel differently about others. You just can't

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<v Speaker 1>always disclose everything, and so that makes it hard. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think also it makes it hard is you live

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<v Speaker 1>in people's pain. You know, people come to you when

0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:50.199
<v Speaker 1>they are hurting, and so you participate in the lives

0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:54.439
<v Speaker 1>of people's tragedies, and that's very hard. So I do

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:57.880
<v Speaker 1>think we are all called I don't know that we're

0:25:57.880 --> 0:26:02.120
<v Speaker 1>all called vocationally in to ministry, but yeah, sure, yeah,

0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:05.359
<v Speaker 1>caused us to be really specialized, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I just look across different even different denominations, different forms

0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:15.560
<v Speaker 2>of religion. There's something about being called to be a

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:19.480
<v Speaker 2>priest in Catholicism that feels like, well, then that it's

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:23.000
<v Speaker 2>their job right run the church, right, And we lose

0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:26.679
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a sense that everybody has a

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 2>role to play because we're professional Christians and they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, and I do think, you know, I coach

0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:37.919
<v Speaker 1>pastors and I'm astonished sometimes I'll be talking to a

0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:40.840
<v Speaker 1>pastor that is you know, a pastor is a church

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:43.359
<v Speaker 1>of fifty people and he has two staff people. That

0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:45.240
<v Speaker 1>is the new thing. I mean, it used to be

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 1>the church was largely you had a pastor. You might

0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:51.639
<v Speaker 1>have a music person, you might have a youth minister,

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:54.879
<v Speaker 1>but almost every other job in the church was a volunteer.

0:26:55.280 --> 0:26:59.600
<v Speaker 1>And now you know, it's a it's a fairly professional

0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:04.680
<v Speaker 1>statf in most churches. Most churches have staff. However they

0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 1>define that right. But yeah, I do think it's diminished

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:10.639
<v Speaker 1>the sense that we are a priesthood of believers and

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:13.320
<v Speaker 1>we are all called and we all have responsibility. You

0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 1>know the illustration in First Corinthians twelve that We're all

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 1>a part of the body, and the body needs to

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 1>function and it can't function without fat and hands and

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:26.320
<v Speaker 1>eyes and you know, and if you end up being

0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:29.400
<v Speaker 1>a foot, you can't be mad because you're not the eye, right,

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:32.160
<v Speaker 1>you know. That whole imagery is the idea that we're

0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:37.320
<v Speaker 1>incomplete if everybody is not doing a piece of their calling. Sure,

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:41.640
<v Speaker 1>and I wonder if I wonder if we've done a good.

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Job of I don't mean us as like you and

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:47.960
<v Speaker 2>I at Montrose Church, but in Christianity in general, I

0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:51.160
<v Speaker 2>wonder if we've done a good enough job of celebrating

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:52.879
<v Speaker 2>all of those callings.

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and there's probably.

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 2>Some people who are like, well, I feel called to this,

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:02.440
<v Speaker 2>but that doesn't feel grandy, that doesn't feel impactful enough,

0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:04.800
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't feel you know, Yeah.

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I do think there's been a revolution in that sense

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:10.360
<v Speaker 1>of in my time as a pastor. You know, when

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 1>I started, you know, how you could volunteer or serve

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 1>in the church was fairly narrow. You could teach, you

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:20.440
<v Speaker 1>could sing, you come do some with music, you could

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 1>do hospitality. But I think that's been blown wide open.

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:27.359
<v Speaker 1>And now, you know, like for us, I think we

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:31.679
<v Speaker 1>ask a very different questions, what are your gifts? You know,

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:35.680
<v Speaker 1>because we can build ministries around what you can do

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 1>as opposed to what we need. And so many of

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 1>the things we do and function as as a church

0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 1>are because someone had those gifts and offered to use them,

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:49.239
<v Speaker 1>and opportunities were created for them. So, you know, if

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 1>you're great at taking care of plants, there's a place

0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 1>for you. If you're great at, you know, cleaning, there's

0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 1>a place for you. If you're great at welcoming people,

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 1>there's a place for you. If you're great at, you know,

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:05.000
<v Speaker 1>being behind the scenes and helping organize, there's a place

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 1>for you. So I think it is broader now, there's

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 1>more opportunity in.

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 2>The same way your first point is God sends in

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 2>response to need. Yeah, And I think it's interesting that

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:25.320
<v Speaker 2>we're all also sensitive to and can see different needs.

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:27.680
<v Speaker 1>In our community, in our church, in whatever.

0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:32.720
<v Speaker 2>We don't necessarily all react the same way right to

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 2>different needs. It might be homelessness that tugs at your heart.

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 2>It might be the special needs community that tugs at

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 2>your heart. I'm not sure that we know that the

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 2>fact that that's grabbing you is a good indicator that

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:48.280
<v Speaker 2>that's maybe where you should serve.

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's the voice. You know. Bill Hobbles

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:54.280
<v Speaker 1>used to say, there's a holy discontent. You know what

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 1>upsets you, what makes you mad, what creates a sense

0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 1>of discontentedness in you? Because I think that really does

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 1>begin then to say, you know, how do you get

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 1>connected to that? How do you make a difference. We're

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:08.920
<v Speaker 1>going to break in a minute, but I really in

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:10.719
<v Speaker 1>the last segment, I want to talk a little bit

0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:13.640
<v Speaker 1>about the whole idea that we are called to make

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 1>the world a better place. That even in a small

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:19.440
<v Speaker 1>group like this that we're talking to this morning, which

0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 1>maybe you know, forty fifty thousand people, what a difference

0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 1>we could make today immediately by just taking this whole

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:33.160
<v Speaker 1>idea seriously that we are called and we're sent and

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 1>to listen to where that is and what that looks like.

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 1>So I want to kind of jump on that and

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:40.479
<v Speaker 1>think about that when we get into the last segment.

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<v Speaker 1>We're heading to break. We'll be right back. Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Healing Conversations with Eric McClanahan and Dave Roberts.

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:52.680
<v Speaker 1>This is KABC seven ninety and we're talking about that

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<v Speaker 1>God sends that there is a freedom that God intends

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<v Speaker 1>for his people. He intends to deliver us, but he

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 1>is very much in the process of setting us free

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 1>so that we can be sent so that we can

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 1>help others be set free. So when you think about

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 1>that and you think about the potential that exists, what

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 1>does that do to you? Eric?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean the needs feel so extraordinary when we

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 2>think about them by ourselves, right, Yeah, and they seem unapproachable,

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 2>they seem unsolvable, and it just feels overwhelming. So taking

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 2>it from a standpoint of I don't have to do everything. Yeah,

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:39.360
<v Speaker 2>that God has a master plan of weaving this all together.

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 2>I just have to do my part is probably the

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 2>right place to start.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, it can't help. But think about Special

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:51.720
<v Speaker 1>Olympics and you know, we've gotten very involved in that,

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 1>and obviously, I mean, your dad was the CEO of

0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 1>the Special Olympics World Games a few years ago that

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 1>hosted here. That's such a great illustration of someone who

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:09.000
<v Speaker 1>saw something and wanted to make a difference, And in

0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 1>a relatively short amount of time, Special Olympics has become

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 1>a global phenomenon, involving hundreds of thousands of athletes, and families.

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:25.000
<v Speaker 1>But it all started with just one family taking note

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 1>and wanting to start something. I think it's a great

0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:32.480
<v Speaker 1>illustration of the potential that exists as we become sensitive

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 1>to the needs.

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 2>So that's a great example of this is now we're

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:42.080
<v Speaker 2>aware of the needs of the special needs community.

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 1>It's massive.

0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and special Olympics plays a really big part. And

0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 2>that's a huge organization that does lots of things, and

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:52.040
<v Speaker 2>it's like, how do I possibly get involved with something

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 2>that's so big? Every year we host what we help host,

0:32:56.480 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 2>I guess the summer games for our little area, right,

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:05.800
<v Speaker 2>hundreds of athletes. You go out every year and run

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 2>the softball throw I'm the softball throw guru. So what

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 2>has your experience been Like, it's a huge need, it's

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:18.720
<v Speaker 2>a huge organization. You have found your little niche that

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:20.000
<v Speaker 2>you do every year.

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, when I first started volunteering, I was

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 1>a timer. I was I had to have a stopwatch,

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 1>and man, that was a lot of pressure, dude.

0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:32.240
<v Speaker 2>The timing is one of I mean, timing the races

0:33:32.360 --> 0:33:35.160
<v Speaker 2>is one of the most stressful jobs there you can have.

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 2>And when it gets to the end of the race

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 2>and you look down and you realize you didn't hit

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 2>the button correctly. Yeah, and your stop watch didn't start. Yeah,

0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 2>there's no worse feeling. Yeah.

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 1>But the worst thing about it for me was I

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't get to interact with the athletes. Oh yeah, and

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:53.320
<v Speaker 1>so then the very first time I got to do

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:56.480
<v Speaker 1>the softball thing. The beautiful thing about it is it's

0:33:56.600 --> 0:34:00.720
<v Speaker 1>very unique in the events because it's one on one

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 1>and every athlete comes to the line. You get to

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 1>talk to them, you get to spend some time with them.

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:09.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, they get three throws each and and so

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:13.880
<v Speaker 1>it's it's the total polar opposite of where I started

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 1>with kind of a big group thing and needing to

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:20.759
<v Speaker 1>focus on very small technical things too. You know, the

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:23.279
<v Speaker 1>rules are pretty simple, it doesn't take long to kind

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:26.279
<v Speaker 1>of figure it out. But I love that part. I

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 1>get to talk to every single athlete by name, We

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:33.360
<v Speaker 1>get to spend you know, those couple of minutes together.

0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:37.439
<v Speaker 1>That's that's so much better. I love doing it. It's

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:38.400
<v Speaker 1>a great experience.

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:41.719
<v Speaker 2>It's just a good example of you don't have any

0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 2>Olympic training.

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:50.239
<v Speaker 1>What you're saying, are you just assuming I don't? I mean,

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I feel like at this point I would have heard.

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:55.359
<v Speaker 2>If you did, you might have heard something. It just

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:59.120
<v Speaker 2>requires people to come out. It's a huge organization. Yeah,

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:04.400
<v Speaker 2>that is global and massive, but it still requires people

0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 2>to come out.

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 1>So like, if you're listening.

0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Right now and you're like, man, I love anytime ESPN

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 2>like runs highlights of Special Olympics. I see it on

0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:15.600
<v Speaker 2>my phone, I see it on Instagram. Like, there's a

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:17.439
<v Speaker 2>spot for you to serve there.

0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, go to.

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:22.279
<v Speaker 2>Special Olympics Southern California's website, Go see what's happening in

0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 2>your area, Go sign up, Go do it, because there

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 2>needs to be somebody there at the softball throw Yeah,

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 2>and it could be you if that's on your heart

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 2>to do it.

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And then I think about that as that's one

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:39.799
<v Speaker 1>of endless organizations. I don't think there's an organization around now.

0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm probably overstating this, but it's probably not a hospital

0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:47.520
<v Speaker 1>in the area. There's probably not a church in the area.

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 1>There's probably not any YMCA, any who doesn't need volunteers

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:55.719
<v Speaker 1>who are trying to do good things in the community

0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:59.440
<v Speaker 1>and trying to figure some things out, and who wouldn't

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 1>benefit from somebody just showing up and saying, hey, what

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:06.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of volunteer opportunities do you have? And I also

0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:09.480
<v Speaker 1>think you know a lot of us. Our world gets

0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:12.800
<v Speaker 1>smaller and smaller, and we get more and more focused

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 1>on our own stuff, our own health, our own feelings,

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 1>our own relationships, and I think it get to come

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:23.400
<v Speaker 1>back to this idea of Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria and the

0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 1>ends of the earth by all means, you know, start

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:29.239
<v Speaker 1>with the question of what's going on in my own

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:32.360
<v Speaker 1>home and my own family, where there might be people

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:37.120
<v Speaker 1>that need help, need attention. You can never underestimate the

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:40.920
<v Speaker 1>value of caring about someone. And I don't know what

0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:44.399
<v Speaker 1>it is about families, but it becomes so hard for us,

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:46.440
<v Speaker 1>so it feel so awkward to pick up the phone

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 1>and call, you know, one of our kids, or call

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 1>a friend and say are you okay, how are you doing.

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:55.439
<v Speaker 1>I've just been thinking about you. I wanted to see

0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:59.839
<v Speaker 1>how you're doing, wanted to check on you. And yet, man,

0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 1>we all appreciate that kind of care. We all want that.

0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 2>And I feel like I kind of, for a second

0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 2>want to just go back to Moses and feeling his insecurities,

0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:17.319
<v Speaker 2>in his inadequacies, because even as we talk about this,

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that there are people that are thinking, yeah,

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:22.759
<v Speaker 2>I do want to go do those but what do

0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:25.360
<v Speaker 2>I have to give? I don't have the voice. I

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 2>don't have the whatever to be able to do it. Yeah,

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:32.879
<v Speaker 2>neither do we. We don't feel like we have those

0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:36.520
<v Speaker 2>things either. Do you feel like sometimes I feel like

0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:39.600
<v Speaker 2>people look at us and go, oh, well, they're really

0:37:39.640 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 2>confident guys and they get up there and they're not

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:45.719
<v Speaker 2>worried and they have it all together. Like do you

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:49.360
<v Speaker 2>do it in spite of those things? Most of the time?

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I say this often. You know, if

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:56.719
<v Speaker 1>you go into a weekend doing what we do and

0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 1>you feel like you've got it figured out, you should stop.

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 1>You should not do it because if your trust is

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 1>in your own intellect or you know your own ability,

0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 1>and I think you know this is when it comes

0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:10.440
<v Speaker 1>to the music. There comes a point where you've done

0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 1>everything you can do and now you've just got to

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:14.880
<v Speaker 1>set that down and go be in the moment, you know.

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:19.160
<v Speaker 1>But no, I think I don't know that the people

0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:20.719
<v Speaker 1>who do. And I think this would be true of

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<v Speaker 1>almost any person that is in the public eye, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's a performer or speaker or whatever. If they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a little bit of fear and trembling. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be really good at what they do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're going to be uncertain because they want

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<v Speaker 1>to push the limits, but they also want to do

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<v Speaker 1>their best. And you know, I think the people that

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<v Speaker 1>are best on stage probably have the most feelings of insecurity,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes them great. If that makes sense, Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think, however, many people are listening right now.

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<v Speaker 2>If we all went and signed up for one thing

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<v Speaker 2>right now, yeah, it would rock communities, absolutely change. It

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<v Speaker 2>would change so much if we all did our part.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're already signed up, if you're already coaching

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<v Speaker 2>little league, if you're already volunteering at the library, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're already doing those things, good on you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're not, you're needed, Yeah, needed in the

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<v Speaker 2>bigger plan, the bigger scope of what this story is.

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<v Speaker 1>We need you out there. Yeah, absolutely part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think again, you know, coming right back to

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<v Speaker 1>the core of this biblical story, that's always the Bibles intent.

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<v Speaker 1>It was never about creating little enclaves that escaped the

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<v Speaker 1>world and we're fleeing and hiding out and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>battening down the hatches. It was about mobilizing people for

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<v Speaker 1>a greater good and a greater cause, empowered by God

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<v Speaker 1>and called by God to go. You know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>how many stories can Jesus tell you know, I was

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<v Speaker 1>hungry and you fed me. It was in prison you

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<v Speaker 1>visited me. I was naked and you gave me clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when did we see you? And he said,

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<v Speaker 1>just as you did it, one of the least of

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<v Speaker 1>these brothers and sisters of mine, you did it to me.

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<v Speaker 1>That message can't get muted. I mean, it is about going,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about being sent, It's about making a practical difference

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. And I think we all have faith.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, who is God? What is the supernatural? What

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<v Speaker 1>is the next part of You know, we're all going

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<v Speaker 1>to have doubts at times about that. But the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that you and I can be called and be mobilized

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<v Speaker 1>to make a real difference in the real world. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's the heart of the gospel. And let tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>in the future and the supernatural, that's all faith. Let

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<v Speaker 1>it take care of itself. But you know, go out

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<v Speaker 1>there and change the world, make it a better place

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<v Speaker 1>to live, be part of the solution.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And like literally do it right now, literally don't

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<v Speaker 2>think about it, like literally right now, go do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, good, well, thanks for listening. I just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>part of freedom is that God sends us to be

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<v Speaker 1>agents that are helping to free the people around us.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen closely, watch closely, and see where God might send you.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless you. Thanks for listening.