WEBVTT - Max Miller on Macklin Celebrini's historic contract extension 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.720 All right, we are now joined on Sportsphone KMBR by 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:06.600 the one and only Max Miller, the man behind Sharks 0:00:06.600 --> 0:00:09.240 Hockey Digest, and of course he also covers the Sharks 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:11.080 for NHL dot Com. 0:00:11.119 --> 0:00:12.760 Max. What's going on, man, how are you doing? 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:15.360 I'm good. I'm not the Congressman, so I'm feeling good today. 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:18.040 You had to add that in right off the bat, 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:21.520 which is important. We've got much better stuff to talk about. 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:27.200 Let's start with the big new contract for Maclin Celebrini 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:29.319 and maybe we should back it up to the whole 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:34.080 offer sheets situation with Leo Carlsin. Do you think that 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:37.919 in any way impacted what happened with Macklin since he 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:40.360 did go less than the twenty percent he could have gotten, 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:44.199 or was that just an interesting little sidebar that may have, 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:46.400 you know, changed the way things are viewed in the 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:49.200 NHL along the way to Macklin getting his deal done. 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:51.199 I think it changed a little bit. I think it 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:53.199 pushed the price up a slightly. 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:55.400 You know, I think instead of maybe like an maybe 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:58.440 him getting eighteen or seventeen eight whatever's more than Coroka 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:00.640 priz Off, the original highest paid you're in the NHL 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:02.880 before the Leo Carlson offer sheet. 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:04.440 I think it pushed the price up a little bit, 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:06.440 but at the end of the day, I also. 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:08.360 Don't think he was ever going to take the max. 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:10.800 I mean, he's You've spoken with him. 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:11.679 I've spoken with him. 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:14.119 He's not a guy that strikes you as I want 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:17.080 to have all the money the equivalent of an NBA 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:17.800 Super Max. 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:19.360 No, he's a guy who wants to give them. 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:22.320 You know, some flexibility may seem high now, but look, 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:24.280 I mean it doesn't kick in until the twenty seven 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:25.679 to twenty eight season, and. 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:30.000 By then it's probably already to discount. So it's it's 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:30.640 I think. 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:33.280 It pushed the price up, if you maybe a million 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:35.520 or two. Maybe maybe it could be even as much 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:38.280 as eight hundred thousand. But I don't know if it 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:40.240 was a ton of influence, but it definitely did impact 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:41.040 it a little bit. 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:43.400 I will say that, yeah, most what was your reaction 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:46.480 to that offer sheet situation? Was that just a little 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:48.520 bit of bad blood between those two franchises? 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:49.280 How did you view it? 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:52.120 Well? If any canby our listeners are listening from the 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:52.800 last time I. 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:55.680 Was on air, that dropped when Dieter and I were 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.000 on the air together, and we both were kind of 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:00.400 left speechless of fun. 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:03.040 I was texting with Dieter, I was like, I can't 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:04.280 believe that just Haven on the air. 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:06.560 So, I mean, I was pretty stunned. But I mean, 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:08.440 good for good for the Flyers. If you want to 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:10.519 go get somebody on an offer sheet, that's the way 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:11.000 to do it. 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:14.200 And made the Ducks squirm a little bit. For Sharks fans, 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:15.840 that's kind of fun to think about making your rivals 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:17.079 squirm a little bit. Well. 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.920 I also, not to get too far away from the 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:22.079 Macklin situation, but the whole way the Ducks have gone 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.839 about their off season have been really curious about what 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:26.280 their long term plan is. 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:27.480 Yeah. 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:30.360 Yeah, Like the Ducks have had a tough off season, right. 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:31.960 Jacob Trueba now a San Jose Shark. 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:35.200 But it sounds like they didn't want him either, right, 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:35.919 I don't. 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:37.320 I think they wanted him, just not at the price 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.080 point he was able to get on the open market, right. 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:42.000 I mean, technically he went from a cap casualty from 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:44.639 the New York Rangers to the Ducks to being paid 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:46.640 more on a per year basis with the Sharks. 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:49.480 So you know, you give and take a little bit. 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.359 There and and you look at the rest of their offseason, 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:54.800 right like the Leo Carlson offer sheet, and then they 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:56.720 match it. Now you likely have to make a trade 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:59.080 or two to clear off some space you have to 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:02.160 fit in. Cutter Gachier, who is Will Smith's one of 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:05.119 his good friends from Boston College. Like they're little, they're 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:09.600 a little strangled, right, they're looking for answers right now 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:12.800 after a team that is expected to start to contend, 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:14.520 right they made the second round of the playoffs this 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:16.720 past year, and he would think after that first year, 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:19.080 getting back and you're like, all right, it's win championship 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:20.400 window open time, and I. 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:22.920 Feel like it. It didn't shut all the way for 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:24.799 the Ducks, but it definitely closed a little bit more 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:25.799 than I think they were ready for. 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:29.600 It changed most definitely back to Macklin. We saw what 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:33.040 he could do last year, but he was essentially fifty 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:36.200 percent of the Sharks offense. How much do you think 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.800 his ceiling can go up with the guys around him 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:42.160 being better and just the team being better. Because I'm 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:44.680 not trying to get ahead of myself, and I think 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:48.160 it's really weird to be like, oh man, but think about. 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:48.600 How better he could be. 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:50.920 He's like, guys, he just set the franchise record for 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.600 points in a season, which was held by Joe Thornton, Like, 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:54.640 let's all. 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:55.160 Calm down it. 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:57.720 But at the same time, I mean, you probably saw 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:00.840 the spin in Chicklets clip yesterday as not talking about 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:03.560 him being Sidney Crosby two point zero. 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:06.000 And you know he does all the dirty work. 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:09.440 He has such a you know, dogged determination out there 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.080 on the ice, Like I don't know, and again it 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:15.080 sounds crazy and almost unappreciative, but I truly don't know 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:17.160 if we have seen close to his ceiling. 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:19.000 No, I don't think we have. 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:21.120 I mean, you think about the rookie year, like, whoa, 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:23.880 this guy's a superstar, and then he explodes more than 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:25.000 anybody's ever expecting. 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:28.159 In year two, whoa, this guy's even more of a superstar. 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:30.320 So he did that at nineteen. He's twenty. I mean 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:31.560 he's still getting stronger. 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:33.599 I mean, in the press conference, is in my career 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:36.760 they're yelling at him to get off the ice already, Yeah, 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:38.440 because they need him to take a break. That's not 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:40.600 gonna happen. That's just not who Macklin celebrin. He is 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:43.200 with the team being better around him. I think that 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:45.280 only brings good things. I think it's going to be 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.520 a wonderful time to be a Santjersey Sharks fan because 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:49.440 you're gonna get a top five player in the league 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:53.040 already who is still growing and likely going to become 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:55.520 a top two to three player in the league in 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.960 could be as soon as next year. It's hard to 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:01.159 predict what his what his ceiling is going to be. 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:03.760 I don't know if he actually has one, because every 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.320 year could be different. We see one year Conorc David 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:09.160 scores sixty goals, the next year he is andresists right 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:12.560 like who knows? Who knows what's gonna happen, Like he 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:14.480 could just change the way he plays as much as 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:16.760 he wants. He can manipulate the game however he wants. 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.200 So it's gonna be interesting to see how the rest 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:21.440 of the team helps him with his overall offensive numbers. 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:23.920 But I also think that'll help him push more offensive 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:26.000 numbers because if the defense is better around him, both 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:29.920 forwards and defense the actual positions, there's less work for. 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:30.360 Him to do. 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:32.960 Meaning if he gets the puck more and he has 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:36.080 more energy, watch out because he's gonna score more points. 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:37.520 That's how you win hockey games. 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:40.160 Well this year with now and we'll get into this 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:41.919 with more detail in a moment here, but with the 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:46.599 additions of Marchments, of Truba of Nurse, it feels like 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.479 they'll have more puck possession as well, which was not 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:52.320 the Shark strong point last year. Like it felt oftentimes 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.960 they were in with one attempt and then quickly going 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.920 back the other direction. If that changes to where they 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.200 can control the pace game a little bit more than 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:03.719 everything improves, but we'll get to that in the moment. 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:06.880 I did want to get to the calling graph extension 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:10.000 because I feel like he like an Igor Turner shop 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:12.480 for two guys who are just below the radar of 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:15.600 where Macklin and Will Smith are in this next generation 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.279 of Sharks, but they should probably be higher. We haven't 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:20.120 seen much of Turni shop, but I think people are 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:23.320 going to be very pleased by what he turns into. 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:26.320 But Colin Graft, considering the fact that he was undrafted, 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:28.120 which for people who don't know, he grew like six 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:31.000 or seven inches from his draft year size to where 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:35.200 he is now, and again his defensive instincts, his ability 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:38.080 on the kill he got over twenty goals last year. 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:40.440 I think this is a player who the Sharks got 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:42.880 a really good deal on and I think and I 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.720 hope that he proves that he needs more along the way. 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:53.040 Yeah, it's something where he is underappreciated but appreciated at 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:53.680 the same time. 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:56.359 Like what he did did the Sharks last year was 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:59.520 incredible and he scored one populay goal. He had two 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:01.320 shortthand goals or a need more short end goals. 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:02.160 They need to power play goals. 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:03.800 He's not going to get much proper play time, especially 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.480 now with the additions that they brought in so well, 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:08.560 I'm really interested to see where collingdraft plays to start 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:13.080 the year and when you when you go from you know, 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:16.760 playing with maclin and Will to playing with the third 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:18.920 line or fourth line. Something that Colin actually said in 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:20.880 his press competition today that that's one of the things 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:22.800 why he thinks the Sharks really like him is because 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:25.200 he could play up and down anywhere, and so at 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:27.720 that price point with what he provides regardless of the offense, 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:29.200 I think it's a good contract. 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:32.080 Now that price point does mean he needs to produce. 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:35.200 Probably around the same just about every year. But you know, 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.400 I think he's going to be really solid piece. I mean, 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:39.200 he's had that night and that major growth for it 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:41.760 that he mentioned, and he's just going to be a 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:42.760 really solid player. 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:44.120 And he came at a good price point. And I 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:45.560 love the three year term. 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:47.600 There was a lot of discourse online at people saying 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:48.679 why didn't they go longer? 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:50.520 Why didn't he go longer? I'm sorry, three years? So 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:51.360 they think it's perfect. 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:53.480 He's had one full year in the NHL, so he's 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:55.360 kind of still unproven. Can you do it on a 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:58.200 consistent basis? At the end of this contract, he's still 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:01.480 under team control for another year. So if you go 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:04.560 to four years, you walk them right into unrestricted free agency, 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:07.520 and that's not ideal. Right, you look at the Macklin contract. 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.240 You buy one year of his unrestricted free agency, so 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.240 three years you get to see where he's at. You 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:14.080 can give him a chance to get paid again, and 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:15.680 you can see if he's a consistent player. 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:17.680 Because if the one thing. 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.520 That confuses me is, you know, people say, well they 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:24.800 wanted long term, not to diss on tug Wilson in 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:28.080 the old regime, but the long term contracts is what 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:31.040 got the Sharks into the rebuild. Eight years for Lastic, 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.520 eight years for couture, eight years for Hurdle, eight years 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.560 for jump like all these things. It's like those don't 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:39.840 age well. Now these players are much younger. But the 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:42.440 new way of doing contracts is not a seven eight 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:43.240 year contract. 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:43.600 Yeah. 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:45.880 No, I mean, although I'm sure if the Sharks could 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:47.960 have locked up math them for a decade or something 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.600 like that, done another fifteen year deal like we did 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:52.400 back in the day, that may have changed things. But 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:55.719 let me ask you about Will Smith, because he's now 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:57.520 the one that's out there that people are kind of 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:01.240 wondering and waiting if that gets finished this summer. Do 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:04.000 you think the front office wants to finish it before 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.120 the season starts, or they may be wanting him to 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:08.800 go out there and show a little bit more. I mean, 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:10.720 I think Will has been great, but I also think 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:12.360 that they probably want him to be a little bit 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:15.760 more physical in his game and a little bit more aggressive. 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:18.000 But you know, I feel like they want to get 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:20.160 it done before the season starts and not have it looming. 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:20.880 Yeah. 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:22.560 I think both sides are gonna want to get it done. 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:23.920 I don't know if there's any rush to get it 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.160 done right. Will Smith is a very cool cat like 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:29.920 he Macklin, you know my career talked about how Maclin 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:33.000 didn't want the contract discussions to become a distraction. I 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:34.760 think there's gonna be so much going over with the 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.400 Sharks that Will Smith's contract negotiations, if it goes into 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:38.240 the season. 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:39.360 Are going to fade to the background. 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:41.200 They'll pop up every now and again be like, well, 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.079 remember he could be a restricted free But I don't 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:46.079 think that's going to be distraction for Will I don't 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:47.840 think that's going to be a distraction for the Sharks. 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:50.600 It's not Macklin's Labrini level concern. 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:53.560 And I think I think both sides recognize that, you know, 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:55.400 based off what Mike Greer said and things like that. 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:58.079 But you know, I think both sides would love to 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:00.000 get done. I'm interest to see where the term comes in. 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:03.760 One thing that in talking with other people around the league, 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:06.520 just you know, chatting about the offseason is you know, 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:09.240 people say that Will Smith and Mcisallabrini attach the hit 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:11.880 that makes me immediately think that he'll sign for five years, 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:12.240 that Will. 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:14.600 Smith was signed for five years. But in talking with. 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:16.920 People, it's like, well, maybe they want to sign them 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:20.040 for six or four stagger them pay them for a 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:21.839 little bit different so you can spread out the cap. 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:23.120 And I was like, oh, that's a good idea and 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:23.760 think about that. 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:26.480 So I think both sides would love to get something 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:28.480 done before the season starts, just you know, they get 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:30.000 to where they need to get and they get it done. 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:30.319 Great. 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:33.720 If not, I don't see Leo crosson situation where Will 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:35.880 Smith is saying no, I don't want to talk with 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:36.720 you during the season. 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.280 I think I think Will Smith still does continue to. 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:40.920 Talk during the season, and I think if it gets 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:42.240 to a point where it gets close to the playoffs 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.040 they still have a contract. That's when they say, all right, 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:45.679 we're going to focus on the playoffs right now. But 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:48.800 I really think that that the Sharks will. 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:50.559 Really get this done. If it gets done, I think 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:51.920 it'll get done close to training camp. 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:54.480 We look at some of the acquisitions the Sharks have 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:58.200 made in recent memory, Keith for sure, what Mason Marchman, 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:02.960 Jacob Truba, Darne Nurse. This is a team that now 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:06.520 has a lot of grits in their game and toughness 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:10.480 juxtaposed with the you know, the skill guys of Macklin 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:12.920 and Will Smith and Igor Turnershoffo. I think g has 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:14.760 a little bit of both because he's got a big, 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:18.000 big frame about him. So a what do you think 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:20.840 that tells us about how the Sharks you're going to present? Also, 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:24.880 and I want your thoughts of this. Where in the 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:28.640 lineup does Tyler to fully currently fit? Because that's the 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:30.000 big question I have. 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:35.040 Yeah, One, they love their size, except for probably Luca Kenyoni, 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:38.200 but they love their size and that's been evident since 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:40.640 my Greer took over. I mean their first draftic was 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:43.160 Philippe Staid, who we haven't seen excuse me in the 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:47.320 NHL just yet, but you know that guy was six 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:49.280 foot three out of the draft. So Mason Marchman six 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:51.920 to five, Trueba's six 's eight. I think he's actually 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.120 listened like six', three But Darneld nurse is six foot, 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:59.520 Four Mark Michael keshering six foot. Five like they've got 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:03.320 all these big, PLAYERS i, Mean marchman's, Big stenberg is still, 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:07.400 Growing wenberg's. Tall you Know smith And. Macklin so these 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:10.319 guys are. Puny why would? Puny but they're, strong but 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:12.640 they're not the same. Height so it's very interesting to 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:15.200 see what they're going with skill and size and. Ego 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:17.000 chernershov you mentioned is a big but when it comes 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:18.760 To tyler To, fully it's kind of weird because he's 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:20.800 been such a good, soldier which is weird to say 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:23.040 because he's been on the team for two, years but 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:25.760 that that decline in production last year kind of maybe 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:28.720 through a wrench into things in some of my line. 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:31.160 PROJECTIONS i think it's hard to put him on the fourth, 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:33.439 line BUT i feel like he's gonna start in the bottom, 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:35.120 six the third or fourth. LINE i, mean the foot 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:37.560 speed was a concern last. YEAR i do think he 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:40.280 was bothered by. Something the majority of the. Year he 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:42.560 did not look like the Regular tyler To, fully to 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:46.600 the point of just general age, decline there was something. 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:49.199 More it felt like it felt like too sharp of a. Decline, 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:52.240 now could it have been regular, decline, yes and this 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:54.600 year will be the telling of. It BUT i truly 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:57.480 the way he, played the way he practiced. It he 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:01.079 never practiced a ton in your, one you always got to, 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:03.320 quick but it just seemed like he really wasn't practicing 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:06.280 a lot at all last, year and the games were 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:08.120 really physical and tight last, Year SO i think it 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:09.520 was a lot of high intensity. 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:11.600 Game SO i think he plays on the third or fourth. 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:13.480 LINE i think he gets on the second power play, 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:15.640 unit AND i think he stays there for the majority 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:17.520 of the year in that second power play. Unit he's 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.560 a soldier, who before we saw maclum become what he is, 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:22.680 now was likely going to be the captain IF i 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:24.520 had to. Guess BUT i Think macklin's the captain. Now 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:27.360 you can't not make him the. Captain, Yeah so it's 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:28.880 not a guy that you healthy. Scratch it's not a 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:31.080 guy that you. Trade obviously he's got the trade. Protection 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:33.600 BUT i think he's a bottom six forward who if 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:35.560 he gets, hot can play with anywhere up and. 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:37.560 Down he line him and he's still on the power play, 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:39.520 right one of the two. Units, YEAH i. 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:40.720 Think he's on that second unit for. 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:44.400 Sure, yeah which that to me is an interesting look 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:47.360 from last year because last, year AND i understand, why 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:51.040 but they just kept the first unit out about a minute, 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.800 thirty minute forty and then the second unit got one. 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:56.640 Shift AND i, LISTEN i get, it And maclin's hard 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:58.800 to get off the ice in these. Situations BUT i 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:02.800 remember how Good washington's first and second power play units 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.560 were during their, prime and to have the ability to 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:07.960 roll two power play units with that much talent is 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:11.120 devastating and makes you. SO i, MEAN i know that 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:13.440 the top unit For edmonton and how good they've been 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:16.400 in recent, memory BUT i also remember how important it 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:18.000 is to have two units that can just be. 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:21.080 Deadly, yeah having two unions that could be, deadly meaning 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:22.920 if one's not, going you can just start the other. 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:24.920 One and the way The sharks just set up now 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:25.760 With Michael. 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:28.720 Mesa t'aring your Showf Stenburg wenberg so only it's like 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:31.560 the depth there is. Great now he is who's gonna 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:33.560 run each? UNIT i think kenyone is gonna start the 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:36.320 year at the first. Unit The sharks have been looking 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:38.800 for A pp one quarterback on THE i shouldn't say, 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:40.800 quarterback HAVE pp one point, man because the quarterback is 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:43.760 gonna be Mack On celebreni on the point And kenyoni 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:44.280 has shown. 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:44.920 The best ability to do. 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:47.480 It i'd love to see the leash get taken Off 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:50.360 Sam dickinson to play some, offense both power play and 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:52.600 five on. Five let him run the second unit by, 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:55.080 himself put him With Michael misa if he's not on 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:58.200 the first. Unit Stenburg weenberg turns up whoever you want 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:01.440 to put him with and let him run five on 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:04.520 five and power play ON pp two and if you 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:06.560 need to make a, change you swap the. Two but 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:09.520 you can't just run the top unit non stop for 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:11.520 a minut and a, half especially if you Run kenyoni 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:13.280 And dickinson on the Power play at the. 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:16.320 Points because both of them need. Time so why not be. 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:18.720 Able to give the first unit a, minute five, minute ten, 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:21.800 minute fifteen and the other unit hopefully after a draw 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:24.560 or easy break, in you get the second unit of 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.120 full forty five seconds to a minute on the power play, 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.960 right like you're. Not it's hard because you are going 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:33.440 to leave Macln celabrini on the Power play as long as, 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:38.280 possible and with his aerobic, capacity he could play five 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:41.040 minutes if he needed, To so it's hard to balance. 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:44.920 It but sometimes you gotta pull the string and say 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:46.640 it's not working. Now the other THING i want to 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:48.320 say in theower, PLAYS i want to see maclan Shoot. Moore, 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:51.680 yeah like he loves to fake one time or step 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:53.360 in the, middle like he's got a great one. Timer 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:54.960 i'd like to see him use it, more AND i 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:57.080 think we will because it's just another level of his. 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:59.520 Game so he's gonna find every level that is the 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:01.640 next level of his game and make it superstar. 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:04.160 Level do you think that message has been delivered to 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:07.160 Both maclin And, will, like, hey stop deferring to each. 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:09.080 Other, Shoot, yes. 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:12.600 CONSTANTLY i think that is that is constantly the. MESSAGE 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:16.560 i think they know it. Too but they get eyes, 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:18.920