1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: It's the Ray Appleton Podcast from KMJ and kmjnow dot com. 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: Public service, Ladies and gentlemen, Public service. Let's all remember 3 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: our esteemed counselman who couldn't stand the other day because 4 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: he had cramps for the Pledge of Allegiance, and that, 5 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: of course, is Michael Miguel. Arius tried to get him 6 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: a lifetime supply today, but they said no, he was 7 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: the wrong gender. I said, damn man, the dude's going 8 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: through male menopause. He's in pain. He won't stand for 9 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: the Pledge of Allegiance. This woman I talked to named Henette, 10 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: said he wouldn't stand. Yeah, ee boy. Back in Pennsylvania. 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: She was not happy with the guy. But I said, hey, 12 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: I covered for him. He had cramps, he couldn't stand. 13 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: That's why his name is now Michel Miguel. I haven't 14 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: heard that one. I just did it. 15 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: No, I didn't know that he didn't stand for the 16 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: Pledge of Legions. Yeah, cramps, the poor man. Oh come on, 17 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: male menopause. Baby, All the veterans out there must be 18 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: going crazy. 19 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: They did. It was back on January the twenty ninth. 20 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: It wasn't that long ago, but. 21 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: Wow, and we all know he was, you know, protesting, right, 22 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: you didn't have cramps? Yeah, God, I just say that. 23 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:25,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, stand by you. You know your your core values. Dude, 24 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: that's right, like you are. Oh boy, what are you doing? 25 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: Mark Captan is here the host of the Mark Capatin 26 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: Shoe on Saturday. I only knows for how much longer. 27 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: But he's the pretty one with the Appletones in the middle. 28 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: We haven't blayed in so long. It's ridiculous. Oh, thank you. 29 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: Well, I never thought I never made Oh We've always 30 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: deferred to you to be the cute guy, you know. 31 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: Is it your brother John? Hell though, is it Jason No? 32 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: Is it Cello No? Not Appleton No? But is it 33 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: Marky in the middle? 34 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm the Paul Yeah, you got it, the 35 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: Davy Jones. 36 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: If I'm the one stuck with the base, the Davy 37 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: Jones because you're you're kind of small too, a little 38 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: on the short side. And I don't mean that negatively. 39 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: I try to dip my knees when we're playing and 40 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: you come up next to me. He said, Oh shit, 41 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: I gotta go open. Oh don't stop, come on, stop, 42 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: don't censor me. I said, I got to stoop down. 43 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: Now Mark is here all right? Anyway, I said a 44 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: bad word. What are you doing? You're going to make 45 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: an announcement. 46 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: I am making an announcement. Yeah, that after thirty four 47 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 2: years as an attorney. 48 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: God has it been that long. 49 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: It's been thirty four years. 50 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: Good for you. Yeah. 51 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. Let me tell you what people think? This is okay? 52 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 2: They think you're replacing me. Oh hey, folks, Ray Appleton announcement. 53 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: Is that what came through yesterday? 54 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 3: Hey? Mark? 55 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 56 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 3: Yesterday afternoon I was playing golf and Blake sent me 57 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 3: a text, Hey, Mark's going to be on the show tomorrow. 58 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 3: It was about five thirty. Yeah, we have a group 59 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 3: chat with him and Ray book It is okay. Went 60 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 3: on with my golf. Round about eight o'clock. I started 61 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 3: getting text messages from employees here in the newsroom because 62 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 3: they got an email that you were going to be 63 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 3: on the show today. 64 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 65 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 3: Is Mark taking over for Ray? Is Mark joining the 66 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 3: Ray Appleton Show? Is Mark the new chair two? No, 67 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 3: it's not the Ray Appleton's show. 68 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 69 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: And by the way, for the record, I was offered 70 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: a chair two the other day, but I said no, 71 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: I've been I've always worked alone alone. Yeah. Yeah, for 72 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: fifty oh my god, fifty six years. 73 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: I'll tell you, when I do the radio shows with you, 74 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: it's it's I know, you work alone, and part of 75 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: it is I feel like i'm oh, intruding, interrupting. Oh god, 76 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, we have so much fun on 77 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: the radio, but you are just a king, whether you 78 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: have a person on or not. And you're you're just 79 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: just wonderful alone. So yeah, yeah, all right, So what 80 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: are you doing. 81 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: You're not taking over the show. 82 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: No, folks, all the people out there who wanted. 83 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: Me to take over, that shame on you. 84 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: No, After thirty four years as an attorney, I have 85 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: decided to run for Superior Court Judge Office number three, 86 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: who is vacated by Gregory Fane. The Honorable Gregory Fane, 87 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 2: a sweetheart of a guy. In fact, when I was 88 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: a intern at the District Attorney's office, there were two 89 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: people that would come around to the little library that 90 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 2: I was you know, my office that I was in, 91 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: and no one else would come around and say, hey, 92 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 2: why don't you help me out on something, or you know, 93 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 2: you need a little experience, et cetera. And the one person, 94 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 2: or one of the two people that used to come 95 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: around and say, come on, walk with me to court. 96 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 2: Follow me in my footsteps was Gregory Fane, who then 97 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: became a judge of the Superior Court. And so I 98 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: am running for Superior Court Judge Office three, which was 99 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: Gregory Fane's office, again following in his footsteps. 100 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: For the record, Mark's brother John was a judge. What 101 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: was his office? 102 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 2: I don't remember what his office number was, twelve or something. 103 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: He's retired now. Yeah, he still goes back once in 104 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: a while, sits in. 105 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: My sister in law, Christy Superior. No, well, there's so 106 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: many captains on the bench. She was appointed though by 107 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 2: schwartz And she was appointed by Schwartzenegger. I would say, 108 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 2: you can never have too many captains. 109 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: On the bench. No, I would do after getting to 110 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: know you. 111 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 2: No, you know what's great it is between Christy, my 112 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: sister in law, and my brother John, who's now retired. Uh, 113 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: it's a wealth of experience that I've sat at the 114 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: dinner table listened to them. 115 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: Have you missed those dinners over at Peters? 116 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I've I've experienced a lot through them. 117 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: Understand the system, have worked in it for thirty four years, 118 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: and luckily for my potential running or for me running 119 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 2: in my election is both of them have represented the 120 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: Capitan name, and let's give Christy the Culver name her 121 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 2: maiden name also in just a fantastic way. They've been 122 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: great judges. Christy is probably, in all you know, deference 123 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: to the other judges, probably the sharpest one out there, 124 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 2: or some of the top one of the top judges 125 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 2: out there. My brother John is probably the most efficient, 126 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 2: most you know, knowledgeable, knowledgeable, I knows law, predictable, as 127 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: far as common I guess common sense, very common sense. 128 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 2: Doesn't waste time. 129 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: That's job. 130 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, gets to the point, is fair to both sides. 131 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: If he makes a mistake, he's the first person to 132 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: acknowledge it and go back out there and say, okay, 133 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: let's rectify this issue. 134 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I love you guys. I've made that very clear. 135 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: Why isn't Peter going to be a Unford joint So 136 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: he wants to retire and change the world. 137 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's retiring and traveling around the world. I think 138 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: they've hit up what something like twenty countries in the 139 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: past five years. 140 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. Let's say you win this. Yeah, 141 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: what's going to happen to the law firm. 142 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: So that's going to be up in the air right now. 143 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:45,679 Speaker 2: Because Peter was retiring and I was convincing him, let's 144 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: just Peter, just keep one office at the here at 145 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: the office. I'll run the office and just keep one 146 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 2: one room here at the office. When he comes back 147 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 2: from his latest sojourn to New Zealand and Australia, we're 148 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: gonna have to sit down and talk. 149 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: He doesn't know you're doing that. 150 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: No, he does know. 151 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: Oh, okay, in fact, she's. 152 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: The I got a one word text from him and 153 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: I said I was thinking about running, and the one 154 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: word text was run. And so he's coming back. We 155 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: were going to be talking about how I was going 156 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: to take over the firm and run the firm and 157 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 2: just keep him coming in on occasion, especially when we 158 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 2: pick up some of these big civil cases that we 159 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: pick up, and we're gonna have to have a different 160 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 2: conversation when he comes back. 161 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: I'd like to be a fly on that wall. 162 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna have to figure out whether the Captain Brothers, 163 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 2: or at least the Captain Law Firm continues to exist 164 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 2: or not. I hope he does We've served the public 165 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: for thirty something years now in many different forms, whether 166 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: it's a defense work or whether it's personal injury. I 167 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: think he would be bored without doing something. 168 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: He took the words right out of my mouth. I 169 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: mean he's not here, he can't hear me. Yeah, but 170 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: I mean Peter loves to complain a lot, and I 171 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: love Peter to death. You know. I was just tired, overworked, 172 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: wants to retire. But at the same time, I think 173 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: if he didn't have, you know, something to do in 174 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: that law firm, he'd go out of his mind. 175 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's what I was worried about, and we 176 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: were all worried about. Is you know, he's always been 177 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: free spirited in the sense that he's wanted to travel. 178 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: He wanted to have enough money to be able to 179 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: travel around, and he's doing that. 180 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: The one non musician. Yeah, we were actually well, the 181 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: one with kids, Yeah, and responsibilities. 182 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 2: I just got the call from my nephew right now. 183 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: He's like, you're doing what. 184 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: So listening back on the other side of the country. 185 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. We had been just a month ago discussing about 186 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: doing sixty day, ninety day, one hundred and eighty day 187 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: cruises around the world. I'm going to try to fit 188 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: in as much of that kind of stuff within this 189 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: next year. 190 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: They're fun. 191 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:07,239 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 192 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: I did forty four cruises, longest was twenty eight days. Yeah. 193 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so so, I mean the family was thinking about 194 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 2: doing stuff like that. 195 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: That's what you went on One of them with me, 196 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: I forgot. We all went to Alaska, North to AKA. 197 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 198 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 2: Sorry, so I'm you know, I may be able to 199 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: fit that in on vacation time. I have to book 200 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: my vacations. If I become a judge. 201 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not going to be your own boss anymore. 202 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 2: That's going to be sort of weird, because it's going 203 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: to be very weird knowing you. I haven't worked for 204 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 2: somebody since jeez, I think Valley Sports if you remember 205 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: that back on Ashland and Cedar back in the day. 206 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: A long time ago. Yeah. 207 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 208 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: Mark has made an announcement again that he's going to 209 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: be running for judge and this is to replace like 210 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: a mentor of yours. 211 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very cool. Yeah, does he know you're you're 212 00:10:58,600 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 2: doing this? 213 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: You know what? 214 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: I got to reach out to Judge Fane. I'm sure 215 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 2: he does believe me. Literally, within fifteen minutes of filing, 216 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 2: I was getting phone calls for people. Yeah, it spreads 217 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: like wildfire down at the court. 218 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: You don't know if there's anybody else in the race. 219 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there. There was two others. I'm not sure 220 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: if one's actually going to follow through. Uh and and 221 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: I don't want to, you know, I'll let them decide 222 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: to Technically, it's not it's not a candidate yet. It's 223 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 2: a declaration of intention. And so I don't want to 224 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: announce any of the names until me When would the 225 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 2: election be this June? 226 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: Coming up? Quick? That's what I thought. 227 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the primary election. And if there's two people 228 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 2: in the race, whoever has fifty percent of the vote. 229 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: That's it, you know, squads. 230 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then so one of them's been a long 231 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 2: term attorney and and and the other one is a 232 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 2: I think a person from like Watsonville who has maybe 233 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 2: fifteen years of experience or something like that. So, I mean, 234 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 2: you never know what's going to happen in these things, right, 235 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 2: it's their elections. I have great name recognition, I have 236 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 2: the most experience out of anybody that's there, so thirty 237 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,599 Speaker 2: four years of experience. So I think I have a 238 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 2: good record for people to consider. And as the politician 239 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 2: that I'm now going to become, I would appreciate the 240 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: support and I would appreciate your vote. 241 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think, you know, thirty four years 242 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: kind of vounces for it. Phone calls. Let's go, Steve, helloair, 243 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: you're on the air. 244 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 5: Hey, I got your back. You'll be that judge and 245 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 5: I'll give you my volle brother. I mean, we need 246 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 5: some changes in there, so I'll even tray the Rosary 247 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 5: to get joined there. 248 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 2: How that sounds Oh good, good Catholic boy there. 249 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'll do it just to get you in there. 250 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 5: I mean, you're you're good people, and you know, just 251 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 5: like Ray Raise Raise a great guy and and you know, 252 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 5: together you guys are couldn't Now. Now here's the other thing, though, 253 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 5: I wish you guys could team up. You guys, man, 254 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 5: you guys are rock a great showing the afternoonning with 255 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 5: you too. But you know, but no, you guys, I 256 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 5: think I think it would be awesome. And uh, I 257 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 5: wish you the best. And I'm serious, I'll pray the Rosary. 258 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 5: Just get there. 259 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: The Catholic and the Ork Orthodox guy. 260 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 2: This is wonderful Steve, that's really that's really sweet of you, Steve. 261 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: You know what Steve says about change, Uh, that was 262 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 2: part of it, you know. Uh, there's there's whenever you 263 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: make these type of decisions, folks, it's it's tough. Well, 264 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. It's going to be a change 265 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: of life for me. But there is two sides to 266 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 2: the story when it comes to this kind of stuff. 267 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: There is why am I doing this personally? And why 268 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: why am I doing this outside of all the personal reasons? 269 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: And I have to say, Steve, my mom was raised 270 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: in Fresno. I've been here since seventy eight, and when 271 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 2: I was a little kid, I remember there's a story 272 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 2: about me standing on Paul Avenue next to Fresno High 273 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: wanting to go join my brothers because they were at 274 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: the pool at Fresno High. And I'm crying on the 275 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: corner and I think about that little kid on this 276 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: you know, my brothers are going to go, oh yeah, 277 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: right now. I've thought about that little kid a lot 278 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: standing on the corner with the cars going by the 279 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: way they did back in the day, and I realized 280 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: that this town isn't the same town. I can't imagine 281 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: being a little kid standing on a corner trying to 282 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: get across the street these days, whether it's speeding, red 283 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: light running, crime, graffiti, Like Steve says, people feel this 284 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 2: need for change. And I may may not be making 285 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 2: sweeping changes like a legislator may do, but as far 286 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 2: as sitting on the bench and trying to reverse some 287 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 2: of the wokeism that may be out there, uh, and 288 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: the decriminalization and the the chance after chance after chance 289 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: after failure after failure after failure of people who are 290 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: on probation out there, and just getting the job done, 291 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: doing an efficient manner and bringing a little bit of 292 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: justice back to Fresno. That was part of the reason. 293 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: Describing another call, Brent, it's all yours, Hey, guys, thanks 294 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: thanks for this Mark. 295 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 4: I wish you well one little bone to pick with 296 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 4: you though I don't think you're a politician. See well, 297 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 4: a politician is a person who makes policy. You're not 298 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 4: going to be making policy. You're going to be judging 299 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 4: with right and wrong and a loss. So don't get 300 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 4: all wrapped up into into what's right and wrong in 301 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 4: terms of anything else. 302 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: But the law. 303 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 4: I think that's where you need to stay focused. 304 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: And Brent brother, I got to tell you it. When 305 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: he said politician, I got nervous too. So I'm glad 306 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: you've said that. Yeah, go on, go on, Yeah, I 307 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: think right. 308 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 4: You and I both know politician has so many definitions. 309 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 4: And man, don't call yourself that. 310 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: You know. 311 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: It's great, Brent, and I appreciate that. I appreciate the 312 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: advice a lot. That's you are correct. It is a race. 313 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: It is a political race, even though it is nonpartisan. 314 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: The best part as I was thinking about coming here 315 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: on the radio with you, Ray is, I was sitting 316 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: here thinking, oh, you know, do I prepare a bunch 317 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: of notes, et cetera. And what I've learned to do 318 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 2: from KMJ and just in my life in the courts 319 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: all these years, Brent is, I've always made sure just 320 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: to be myself and if I have to do a debate, 321 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: you know, obviously I'm going to be prepared. But most 322 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: of my thoughts in life come from deep down when 323 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 2: my dad was alive and when I was a kid, 324 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 2: and so it's not the politician where I'm going to 325 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: be making up my political views right there and then 326 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 2: or make or make up what my mantra in life is. 327 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 2: I've had my mantras in life for my whole for 328 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 2: many many years now. I've decided what I want to be, 329 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 2: how i want to think. And so even though I 330 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: may say it's a politician or we're in an election, 331 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,959 Speaker 2: when you hear me speak, it's not coming from any 332 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: sort of made up thing that I just had to 333 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 2: do because I'm an election. It's what I've always been. 334 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: And I got to say, Ray, being on your show, 335 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 2: doing the radio show with Marcella who's sitting over here 336 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: with me, my producer, It's got me to that point 337 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 2: to where I could just talk in front of people 338 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 2: naturally normally, and it just comes from the heart. 339 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: And that's what this decision is. From knowing you. I 340 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: don't think you're going to be making more money. Yeah, 341 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: that is correct. Someone said, oh, well, let's calculate how 342 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: much you will make in retirement, you know, in the 343 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: X amount of years that you do this, and I said, 344 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: it's not about that. If I wanted to retire today, 345 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: I could, seriously, how are you gonna snow choke sixty 346 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: one sixty one? Yeah, young rock and roll guitarist ex 347 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: stored in there. 348 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 3: I will. 349 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: I got to say, I am going to do my 350 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 2: best to continue doing that doesn't. 351 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: Interfere I mean, John, no problem. 352 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love all that stuff, therapy. I'm not going 353 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 2: to shy away from that kind of stuff as part 354 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 2: of an election or something like that. You know, yeah, 355 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 2: who I am. 356 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 1: It keeps us from taking access to people. Yeah. 357 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 2: The hard part I gotta say is, and we didn't 358 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 2: announce this yet potentially is that I don't know if 359 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 2: you did ray or not. Is I'm gonna have to 360 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 2: give up my radio show. Yeah for a bit, for 361 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: a bit. I could come back after the election, but 362 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 2: you know, giving up that neon hour. I got to say, 363 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: folks out there, every day that I walk around, I 364 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 2: hear from people that come up and say, I listen 365 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 2: to you. And it's amazing that that happens. Because to me, 366 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 2: I'm sitting alone in a room talking. I don't think 367 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: anybody's listening. But every day I'll have somebody, I'll be 368 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 2: introduced to somebody and I'll say oh, They'll say, oh, 369 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 2: I hear you on the radio, and I enjoy the show. 370 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 2: So I am going to miss that for the time being. 371 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: All Right, I got to run off the news if 372 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: you want to hang around and play second banana. Fine, 373 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: if you got to move on, do it. I'll play 374 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: second banana. Mark's the only guy that can walk in 375 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: here anytime and play second banana on the show. I 376 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: love it. You know, not a problem.