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Speaker 3: I think it's where the forty nine ers had declined

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Speaker 3: play this where he has no guaranteed money. Trenton, we

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Speaker 3: did a contract with you two years ago, and we

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Speaker 3: don't know when you're gonna retire, so just play on

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Speaker 3: this contract.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just you're I'm absolutely with you that it

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Speaker 1: sounds Agent like especially if lackinfo is a guy who

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Speaker 1: knows Trent Williams and his representation from when he covered

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Speaker 1: And I'm just connecting dots. I'm not alluding to anything

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Speaker 1: to farious here. I'm just saying this is how you

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Speaker 1: get sources right. They know him, So if they want

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Speaker 1: to push something else out, what they're pushing out is

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Speaker 1: not Well, what they're pushing out is, hey, we're not

445
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Speaker 1: close to a deal, So teams out there just so

446
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Speaker 1: you know, my services are still available. And you're telling

447
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Speaker 1: everybody there's a robust market. There's, of course a robust market,

448
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Speaker 1: but at the right price point for everybody else. You

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Speaker 1: have to give up draft capital and a lot of

450
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Speaker 1: money to do it for an unknown future for a

451
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Speaker 1: player who's still elite but not a skilled position player

452
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Speaker 1: per se, still want to the most important in the game.

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Speaker 1: But what's it worth to you with the draft around

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Speaker 1: the court?

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Speaker 3: He's got two years left too, Do you really want

456
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Speaker 3: to go all in on that contract and that draft

457
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Speaker 3: capital for a guy that's gonna be there for two years?

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Speaker 1: No, Again, you'd have to be a team ready to

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Speaker 1: win now and really banking on this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess the Chiefs could do it

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Speaker 3: if they.

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Speaker 1: See team you could see coming back, yeah, because then they.

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Speaker 3: Could be like, Okay, well we have a replacement and

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Speaker 3: Josh Simmons ready to go once Trent Williams retires. But

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Speaker 3: do you really want to give like you know, like again,

466
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Speaker 3: when is Patrick Mahomes coming back? And then they wuldn't

467
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Speaker 3: stop you from doing the deal. But it just it

468
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Speaker 3: just has a lot to do for a thirty eight

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Speaker 3: year old player. Where the forty nine ers realize we

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Speaker 3: have you, you know, we'll figure something out. And I

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Speaker 3: think like the way this is worded, like you know,

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Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan was asked about this when he was doing

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Speaker 3: the Fanatics Flag Football competition. Jennifer lee Chan asked him

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Speaker 3: about it, and it kind of sounds like Kyle's not

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Speaker 3: really involved in a lot of contract negotiations as much

476
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Speaker 3: as he was in the past, but he was pretty

477
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Speaker 3: confident something gets done here, and I think that will happen.

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Speaker 3: It's just maybe not on the timeline that we all anticipated.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess not. We thought there was more of

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Speaker 1: a deadline, but I guess there isn't. And we can

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Speaker 1: ask Matt Mayogo about that about where this is going

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Speaker 1: with Trent Williams. Another check here in the Golden State

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Speaker 1: Lumber and Showroom text on another awkward movie moment with parents,

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Speaker 1: We were asking what's the most awkward moment you had

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Speaker 1: watching a movie with a parent or family member? Five

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Speaker 1: one oh, says my friend and I convinced our teachers

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Speaker 1: to let us watch sixteen Candles at outdoor school. The

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Speaker 1: naked shower scene did not go over well. The teacher

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Speaker 1: pulled me aside later. I'm ten, she says, quote, your

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Speaker 1: parents let you watch that? Yeah, I said, shrugging, she said,

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Speaker 1: she said, oh, clearly, deeming my one teen parent unfit.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I have not seen a lot of John Hughes movies.

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Speaker 3: I've not seen sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Candles, haven't you got come on? Man? Candles is good?

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Speaker 3: Pretty in pink missed that one. I've only seen Fiers

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Speaker 3: Peeler's Days Day Off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that people would say, like that's the afterthought

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Speaker 1: on the on the John Hughes Yeah you've.

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Speaker 3: Seen Breakfast Club, yeahv okay, yeah, all right, Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 3: not really a John Hughes guy.

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Speaker 1: I just knew it was Greg.

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Speaker 3: Not really, I'm not a Hughes man. No, okay, I'll

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Speaker 3: say this the most award life.

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Speaker 1: He's saying almost fire, just like out of eating and

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Speaker 1: saying out knows for the draft for the combine, but.

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Speaker 3: Go there next year. Silver the most awkward movie I've

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Speaker 3: ever seen with my father. Again, like it wasn't like

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Speaker 3: where we Dude was awkward.

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Speaker 1: Most awkward movie.

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Speaker 3: Movie, hands down, hands down. Bruno not Borat Bruno.

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Speaker 1: That seems like a movie Greg would love.

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Speaker 3: He was laughing, but most of the scenes he was like,

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Speaker 3: what the hell's going on? He probably he probably loved Bora,

514
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Speaker 3: he loved Borat, and he was like, let's watch Bruno.

515
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Speaker 3: Bruno was way more sexual.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know the place. Yeah, dude's ridiculous. Brunos. I

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Speaker 1: mean it's born At, that's ridiculous. But Bruno is Bruno's

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Speaker 1: like I didn't like Bruno nearly as much.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no. But there's a whole scene where they

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Speaker 3: go to like a UFC match and they they challenged

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Speaker 3: the crowd. Uh yeah, it's it's all like there's a

522
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Speaker 3: lot of you know, penis shots, Like Bruno is is wild.

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Speaker 3: I would say, way more whild than Borat.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, that's pretty so way he was Greg

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Speaker 1: was he is Greg a guy who reacts verbally in

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Speaker 1: the theater.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but like we we didn't see in a theater.

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Speaker 3: We we saw it at home and I'm like laughing

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Speaker 3: my ass off at the whole movie, and he's like,

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Speaker 3: good God, what the hell is this, Derek?

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Speaker 1: This is he shows this again?

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Speaker 6: Huh?

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Speaker 1: But the best time this week with Derek.

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Speaker 3: But the best, the best movie experience I've ever had

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Speaker 3: with my father was Little Fockers. I think I said

536
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Speaker 3: this before, where he laughs the whole hour and thirty

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Speaker 3: minutes and then we leave the theater. He goes, but

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Speaker 3: that was terrible.

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Speaker 1: My Dad's immediate reactional, like every movie is that was great,

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Speaker 1: And you'll bring it up like a year later and

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Speaker 1: I'll be like, no, that was I didn't even really

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Speaker 1: like that. But my dad goes back on liking movies,

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Speaker 1: but he claimed to have liked.

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Speaker 3: My father loves the weirdest movies. He says, The Rock

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Speaker 3: of Ages. I don't know if you know that movie

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Speaker 3: was like a movie back in like the mid two

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Speaker 3: thousand movie where he's like, I gotta tell you Tom

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Speaker 3: Cruise doing like a Steven Tyler impression. That's an Oscar

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Speaker 3: worthy performance, and he also loved the Love Guru.

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Speaker 1: I'll never I'll.

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Speaker 3: Never forget that too. He's like, it's just like Austin Powers.

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Speaker 1: Top five movies. I Love Guru, Rock of Ages. He

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Speaker 1: loved Rocket Bagude, the the nineteen ninety four Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: documentary that I've never watched from Derek.

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Speaker 3: Well, I've seen it before, so I didn't have to

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Speaker 3: watch the DVD box set. He gave me.

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Speaker 1: Legend of Action man just misses the cut. Yes, ah,

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Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. When we come on back,

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Speaker 1: deal is far from being done? We'll talk about it

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers insider from NBC Sports Bay Area. He

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Speaker 1: joined us on the UMA guest line and on our

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Speaker 1: video stream. What's going on, Matt, How are you am?

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Speaker 6: I yeah, I'm doing well.

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Speaker 1: Everything going there pretty good. Did you how'd you take

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Speaker 1: in March MADNUS this weekend? Do you have any do

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Speaker 1: you have March Madness traditions?

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Speaker 6: Well, I travel with same areas only year and so

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Speaker 6: it's been five years running, and so of course big news.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if you've talked much about it, but

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Speaker 6: Randy Bennett took the job at Arizona State and Mickey

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Speaker 6: McConnell steps into the Saint Mary's coaching role, so it

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Speaker 6: got a what a fun twenty five years. I think

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Speaker 6: I've been a season ticket holder for the past fifteen

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Speaker 6: years at Saint Mary's, but yeah, I was with them

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Speaker 6: in Oklahoma City, and it seems to me, as far

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Speaker 6: as just the old the entire NC to a tournament,

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Speaker 6: it seems like on Saturday and Sunday, they're stacking the

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Speaker 6: games in a way that you know, you can watch

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Speaker 6: basically the second half of every game. And so I

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Speaker 6: have those all the channels programmed in and I'm clicking around.

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Speaker 6: So maybe not the number of great finishes in close games,

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Speaker 6: as we've seen in the past, and there are certainly

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Speaker 6: reasons for that, but the the ones that did go

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Speaker 6: down to the wire were just really incredible theater.

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Speaker 1: Some really fun games this weekend. And yeah, Randy Benett

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Speaker 1: takes the job with with Arizona State.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm saying, wow, that's I mean, I know, I

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Speaker 3: know that broke early in our show, but uh, I mean,

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Speaker 3: obviously sad to see Saint Mary's lose in the first

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Speaker 3: round to Texas A and M but I mean, grass,

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Speaker 3: Randy benn And it's gotta be devastating news for a

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Speaker 3: guy Tom Tolbert.

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Speaker 6: Well, yeah, because now, uh that's this guy. Yeah, he'll

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Speaker 6: be rooting again.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely shatters Tom's heart.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he might be rooting against him for every game.

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Speaker 3: Right, scumb devils is what he calls him.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, no, so that's uh, yeah, I guess Randy

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Speaker 6: is probably dead.

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Speaker 1: Forced down for sure. Yeah, he's just the devil, not

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Speaker 1: the sun devil, He's just the devil. Yeah. Matt Mierka

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Speaker 1: joins us on the Yuma guest line. So weird to

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Speaker 1: talk to you today and still have no news really

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Speaker 1: at all on Frent Williams right, Like we talked last

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Speaker 1: Monday saying there was that the sort of air quotes deadline,

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Speaker 1: but they could negotiate to move that back and whatnot.

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Speaker 1: Then the news comes out Friday that the Niners were

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Speaker 1: not going to pick up the option. Tell us where

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Speaker 1: we are and how all that played out.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So, as I guess, as it turned out that

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Speaker 6: that deadline wasn't as significant. It wasn't like a drop

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Speaker 6: dead type of thing where if they pick it up,

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Speaker 6: he's on the team. If they decline it, he's off

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Speaker 6: the team. That wasn't the situation at all. You know

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Speaker 6: what it basically is was, you know, when the contract

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Speaker 6: was rolling through to Friday, it was the ten million

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Speaker 6: dollar option bonus, which would have signified guaranteed money, like

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Speaker 6: money that they would have automatically paid him or guaranteed

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Speaker 6: to him. And then his base salary was roughly twenty

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Speaker 6: two million, but by declining the option bonus, now all

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Speaker 6: of that money, the ten million in the option bonus,

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Speaker 6: basically rolls over to the base salary. So now his

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Speaker 6: base salary is thirty two million, which right now is

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Speaker 6: not at all guaranteed. So, as I understand it, the

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Speaker 6: sides have been talking and they're working on a solution

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Speaker 6: that satisfies the forty nine ers and Trent Williams. For

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Speaker 6: the forty nine ers, it's probably not paying the entire

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Speaker 6: thirty two million, but it's also coming up with a

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Speaker 6: contract that lowers his salary cap figure for this season,

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Speaker 6: because by putting all that money into the base salary,

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Speaker 6: it does raise his salary cap figure. And for Trent Williams,

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Speaker 6: who has no guaranteed money right now, what he wants

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Speaker 6: is guaranteed money, so that the forty nine ers on

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Speaker 6: a whim, you can't just say, you know what, we're

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Speaker 6: cutting him and not oweing him another penny. That would

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Speaker 6: be the case, say, after forty hours were to draft

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Speaker 6: a left tackle and a left tackle that they really

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Speaker 6: like in the first round of the NFL Draft, then

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Speaker 6: they it's well within their rights to say, you know what,

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00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 6: we've decided that we like this guy and we're going

651
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 6: to roll with them, and we got this young guy

652
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 6: in their contract, a very manageable contract for four years,

653
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 6: and at that point they could cut ties with Trent

654
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 6: william It's not saying that they would do that, but

655
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 6: that that remains an option. So as I understand it,

656
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 6: the sides have been engaged in conversations. They're a lot

657
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 6: deeper into those talks than they were two years ago

658
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 6: when it went all the way up until the start

659
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Speaker 6: of the twenty twenty four season, and he wasn't involved

660
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 6: in any of the off season program or any of

661
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 6: the training camps. So it's still my understanding forty arres

662
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 6: fully intend on him being on the team. They're banking

663
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 6: on it, and they believe that they can reach some

664
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 6: sort of contract solution or revised contract, a contract like

665
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 6: I said that works on both sides before the start

666
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 6: of the NFL Draft, which is rolling around in late April.

667
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 6: So really this was kind of a way for them

668
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 6: to kind of kick the can down the road and

669
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 6: not have any money guaranteed and really not taking a

670
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 6: huge contractual stand on exactly and locking them into whatever

671
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 6: the terms of that deal were going to end up being.

672
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Speaker 3: So, Matt, what are the ramifications of them declining the

673
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 3: option or the ten million? I should say when it

674
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 3: pertains to the salary cap and the dead cap situation,

675
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 3: because they're taking on I think I guess forty seven

676
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 3: million in dead cap, and I guess, like if we're

677
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 3: relating this to another situation. The Eagles don't want to

678
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 3: trade aj Brown because if they did before June first,

679
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 3: they would get like forty five million worth of dead cap,

680
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 3: and they think that's too much. People around the league

681
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 3: are saying, Wow, I can't believe the forty nine ers

682
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 3: were are willing to take on that dead cap. What

683
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 3: does that do to the salary cap situation when some

684
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 3: fans are anticipating maybe a Joey Bosa signing.

685
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, so the dead cap refers to whenever a player

686
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 6: isn't on the team and then that money. Like I think,

687
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 6: off the top of my head, I think Deebo Samuel

688
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 6: wasn't on the team last year, and I think his

689
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 6: cap hit, so in essence, dead money was like thirty

690
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 6: one million dollars. So he counted thirty one million dollars

691
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 6: on the forty nine ers twenty twenty five cap even

692
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 6: though he wasn't around for Trent Williams because the forty

693
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 6: nine Ers did not pick up that option bonus, and

694
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Speaker 6: an option bonus can be spread out, the hit of

695
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 6: that can be spread out over four or five years,

696
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 6: and in that case with Trent Williams, it would have

697
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 6: been spread out over five years the ten million dollars,

698
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 6: but by declining the option bonus and moving that to

699
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 6: base salary, it added seven and a half million onto

700
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Speaker 6: the salary cap for this year. So right now they're

701
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 6: in a spot where they can absorb that hit, and

702
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 6: so that's why they didn't pick up that option bonus.

703
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 6: But the idea would still be to come up with

704
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 6: a solution to replace that base salary with signing bonus

705
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 6: money that can be spread out over the life and

706
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Speaker 6: deal and they can reduce his salary cap figure by

707
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Speaker 6: quite a lot. It does they still do have, I

708
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 6: think the wherewithal to be able to sign Joey Bosa

709
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 6: or some other player to a contract. But the way

710
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 6: the forty nine ers feel right now with their salary

711
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 6: cap structure, whatever that asking price is, it's too high.

712
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Speaker 6: And it seems to me like because I'll throw John

713
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 6: Jennings into this lump as well, it just seems to

714
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 6: me when you have a free agent who is out there,

715
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 6: like Bosa, like Joan Jennings, it feels like whatever both

716
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 6: of those players want, it's more than what anybody around

717
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 6: the league is willing to pay. That's why they remain

718
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 6: unsigned two weeks in a free agency, so I still

719
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Speaker 6: think it's a possibility for the pre Ares to sign

720
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Speaker 6: Joey Bosa, but you know, I think he'll have to

721
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 6: come down in his asking price, and for the forty

722
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 6: nine Ers, it would be about the structure and also

723
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 6: Proba maybe something concurrent to working out a deal with

724
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Speaker 6: Trent Williams that lowers his salary cap figure for the

725
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 6: twenty twenty six season as well.

726
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: Talking to Matt Mayo though our forty nine Ers insigner

727
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: from NBC Sports b Areas, I mean, that all makes

728
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: sense to me, and I think the general thought at

729
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: least like you see people and I think this way

730
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: too as well. They can't sign Joey yet because they

731
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: haven't worked out the Trent Williams deal, and makes sense

732
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: in that they'll know exactly where money's allocated and that

733
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Speaker 1: may still be fluctuating with Trent. Could they sign Joey

734
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: right now before they do this deal with Trent and

735
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: it just might not?

736
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Speaker 6: Think? Yeah, good, Yeah, I think they could. Okay, I

737
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 6: just don't think at this point they want to. I

738
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 6: think whatever they whatever Joey Bosa right now is asking

739
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 6: for or his agent is asking for I think the

740
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 6: freeance that just deemed that too much.

741
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Speaker 1: Do you just think the asking price is it's more

742
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: on the price right now of Bosa that it is

743
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: relative to Trent.

744
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 6: I think so, yeah, because because you know, the last

745
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 6: numbers I checked, there's still like twenty nine million under

746
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 6: the cap even with the added expenditures for Trent Williams

747
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 6: removing that that option bonus and converting it to base salary.

748
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 6: So I just think that wherever they feel like they

749
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 6: are with the salary structure of the team, whatever that

750
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 6: asking price is, I think the fans have just just

751
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 6: deemed it, you know, not palatable enough for them where

752
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 6: they are with their with all their salaries on the team.

753
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 6: So I think they've just figured that it just doesn't

754
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 6: make sense at the price right now. Whether that price change,

755
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 6: that might change. Where the forty ars are, it feels

756
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 6: to me like the free Arms are very open and

757
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 6: signing him and would love to sign him, but you know,

758
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 6: it has to be at their price. And for Joey Bosa,

759
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 6: it feels to me like he would like to be

760
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 6: with the forty nine ers. He's very open to being

761
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 6: with the forty nine ers. He would love to team

762
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 6: up again with his brother, but it's got to be

763
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 6: at a price that he deems is worthy of whatever,

764
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 6: or you know, commiserate with what his asking price is

765
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 6: and what he feels his worth is as an NFL player.

766
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Speaker 3: Talking about Mayoko on the Uma guest Liners. Going back

767
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 3: to the Trement william situation, is there any possible way

768
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 3: that this negotiation could go past the draft where it

769
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 3: goes into training camp where we see negotiations with the

770
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Speaker 3: forty nine ers happen in recent years, where I would

771
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: I would assume that they have to know their future,

772
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 3: which Trant Williams, in order to know that they need

773
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 3: to draft his replacement immediately.

774
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's kind of figured. It's difficult to kind of

775
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 6: figure out who has the leverage in this right because

776
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 6: the forty nine ers do have him under contract, but

777
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 6: it's probably at a price that they would deem maybe

778
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 6: too high for a one year deal, which is thirty

779
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 6: three million dollars. And for Trent Williams, as much as

780
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 6: he would like to withhold his services and and and

781
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 6: get more guaranteed money, his alternative is to just not

782
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 6: play football unless you know there's a trade and they

783
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 6: find somebody that's a willing to pay Trent Williams what

784
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 6: is on his contract and also give up something to

785
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 6: the forty nine ers for the forty nine ers to

786
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 6: retain or to give up his rights. So it's kind

787
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 6: of difficult to figure out where the where the leverage is,

788
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 6: you know, both sides. It feels to me like both

789
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 6: sides kind of need each other at this point. And

790
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 6: for the forty nine ers, you know, there's really not

791
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 6: a good option currently on the roster to be their

792
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 6: starting left tackle. There might be some options there at

793
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 6: twenty seven overall, if they get to that point in

794
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 6: the draft and they're not sure iff Trent Williams is

795
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 6: going to be on the team or not. So it

796
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 6: just kind of feels to me and looks to me

797
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 6: like the better option for both sides is just to

798
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 6: work something out. And you know, I felt that way

799
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty four and they did work something out,

800
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 6: And right now he is under contract with terms of

801
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 6: a contract that doesn't necessarily seem to work for either side.

802
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 1: Matt in the Juwan Jennings case is I know you're

803
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: saying there's not teams that want to pay him his

804
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: asking price, and I hear that. Is this a case

805
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: where he's overvalued his situation? Is it a case where

806
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: teams look at him and go, he was valuable in

807
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers system, but maybe not in our system.

808
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 1: How do you see this with him?

809
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's tough to make a definitive statement until he

810
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 6: signs that contract, whoever he signs it with. But I

811
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 6: think that's a fair read on it. You know, when

812
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 6: you look at he wanted a deal before the start

813
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 6: of the twenty twenty five season, before the start of

814
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 6: last year, and quite clearly the forty nine ers deemed

815
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 6: his asking price too rich for their blood and maybe

816
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 6: above what they believed his market value would be. Well,

817
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 6: now free agency has started, and all of those players,

818
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 6: all of the high priced players got gobbled up before

819
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 6: the even the start of the open negotiating period, or

820
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 6: I should say before the start of the free agent

821
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Speaker 6: signing period. And the fact that here we are are

822
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 6: two full weeks in, I don't know how you could

823
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 6: come up with another, you know, a way to sum

824
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 6: it up, other than maybe he overplayed his hand and

825
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 6: what his gasking price is is more than what any

826
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 6: team right now is willing to pay. Now, all that said,

827
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 6: tomorrow he can sign a contract that pays them twenty

828
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 6: five million a year. I doubt that that happens, just

829
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 6: based on how the first two weeks a free agency

830
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 6: has gone. But I think that that's kind of a

831
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 6: fair way to look at it until proven otherwise. I mean,

832
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 6: most of the big money guys are off the market,

833
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 6: you know, those guys the teams pay. You know, the

834
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 6: teams spend their money early in free agency, and so

835
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 6: for Juwan Jennings to still be out there now, the

836
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 6: certainly the appearance is that he's part of that second

837
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 6: wave of free agency when the prices kind of settle

838
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 6: in and all the big money has already been paid out.

839
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 3: A couple more minutes with Matt Mayoko on the Uma

840
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 3: guest line. You're a big Giants fan. The season's opening

841
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 3: up this Wednesday, and a lot of people, a lot

842
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,479
Speaker 3: of Giants fans are not unhappy that the season's opening

843
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 3: up at night on Netflix against the.

844
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: Yankees on Netflix, like the Lord intended.

845
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Matt.

846
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: That's how it's always better. Yeah, So what do you.

847
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 3: Think about this NFL esque like opener for the Giants

848
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 3: in Major League Baseball where it's kind of like presenting

849
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 3: the same way where it's on streaming. They're kind of

850
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 3: building up with this, you know, this broadcast with like

851
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 3: other you know, people like Burke Reischer, Jameis Winston. What

852
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 3: do you think about, like the the MLB season starting

853
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 3: in kind of an NFL style.

854
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I I've always liked baseball because of

855
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 6: the traditions, and in my mind, Opening Day should always

856
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 6: be in Cincinnati. And I didn't even know how many

857
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 6: years it was in Cincinnati, but I remember back in

858
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 6: the day, you know, the Giants opening in Cincinnati, Vic

859
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 6: Harris losing a fly ball in the sun whatever year

860
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 6: that was.

861
00:39:55,480 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 1: Celebrated with a drink, uh Saint Bernard.

862
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, So I don't know, I've always liked the

863
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 6: traditions of baseball, but you know, I also understand that

864
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 6: times are evolving and and leagues need to adapt and

865
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 6: try new things. So I mean, I think it will

866
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Speaker 6: I think it'll be exciting, you know, for us in

867
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Speaker 6: the Bay Area to have opening Night in in San

868
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 6: Francisco and then what is opening Way will be two

869
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 6: days later. Yeah, So there's a part of me, I

870
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 6: think my my knee jerk reaction is I just I

871
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 6: would rather just see the tradition. But then when you

872
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 6: think about it's like, uh, you know what, let's there.

873
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 6: There is a reason that maybe baseball has lagged behind

874
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 6: is because you know, they haven't been always willing to

875
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 6: adapt and try new things. So I go into it

876
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 6: with a very open mind, and I guess if anything

877
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 6: excited that it's here in the Bay Area.

878
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Speaker 1: Now before before you go, I were traveling and you know,

879
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: okayse with with Saint Merdas basketball. But I would I mean,

880
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't hold it against you if you didn't watch

881
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: the Flag Football Fanatics event on Saturday, But it was

882
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: still surprising to me watching some of the video of it,

883
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: like the highlights that I didn't watch it, but I

884
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: saw some of the highlights. I saw some of the

885
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 1: conversation after and the the blowout of the NFL players

886
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: by the actual world champion team USA flag Football team

887
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: was kind of alarming. And the quarterback of that team,

888
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: they've talked about this for a couple of years saying,

889
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: we're like, this is a different game, it's a different

890
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: sport we can play this. Was it surprising to you

891
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: at all that that's how it went down?

892
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 6: It was until it wasn't. Yeah, does that make sense?

893
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 6: I mean, like you watch that, it's a different game watch.

894
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 6: I didn't watch much of it, but you know, the

895
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 6: first time I saw that the Team USA guys with

896
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 6: the ball in their hands and and running, I thought, Oh,

897
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 6: my gosh, this is like ACL and lag tears and

898
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 6: tendon tears waiting to happen. They were kind of contorting

899
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 6: their bodies, And honestly, when I first saw, you know

900
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 6: that the first guy catch a pass and start running,

901
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 6: I thought like, oh my gosh, how did any NFL

902
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 6: team allow any of their players to get out there

903
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 6: and play? Because I honestly, I'm not joking, I was

904
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 6: like kind of concerned that that some of these guys

905
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 6: could get injured, because.

906
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, this wasn't like a they were so they could

907
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: have gotten.

908
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 6: Hurt right the way they the way the Team USA

909
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 6: guys would like kind of sink their hips and and

910
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 6: you know, contort their bodies and and cut and and

911
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 6: kind of and dart and change the speeds and everything else. Yeah,

912
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 6: it is a different game. It's a different training, it's

913
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 6: a different athletic mechanisms that those guys use. So once

914
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 6: I saw that, I was like, oh, I totally makes

915
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 6: sense why the NFL players are the you know, the

916
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 6: tackle football players could not compete at that level because

917
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 6: it is a completely different skill set that I saw

918
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 6: there that was unlike you know, NFL football or tackle

919
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 6: football as a whole. So once you saw it, then

920
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 6: it then it totally made sense. If you had just

921
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 6: shown me the scores, like, oh, they would have beat

922
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 6: them whatever, forty three to twelve, Like oh really, no way.

923
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 6: But then when you see it, it's like, oh yeah,

924
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 6: it's like so different. Five on five it makes sense

925
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 6: as opposed to eleven. Yeah, absolutely made sense.

926
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Speaker 1: It's fifty yeah, I mean she gets right here. Look

927
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: pretty good, still, thought Logan.

928
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 6: But the team USA guys, they weren't exactly spring Chicken.

929
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, they were good.

930
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: No no, he said. They weren't all like young kids.

931
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 2: They were there.

932
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: There's some guys in there that were vets. Yeah, for sure.

933
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: That man did the voice. Here are forty nine ers

934
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: insider NBC Sports. Barry and Matt always appreciated the time

935
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: on Mondays and enjoy the week, enjoy opening a day,

936
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: both of them.

937
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 6: Dude absolutely all right, think c.

938
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: Matt Avessman and the great Matt Mayoko joins us every

939
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: Monday at four fifty. Even in the off seasons, there's

940
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: always forty Niner news or lack thereof to talk about

941
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: right now, waiting on the Trent Williams thing. It is

942
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: interesting that he says he doesn't totally think that the

943
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: Trent negotiation has to do with why Bosa wasn't signed

944
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: or isn't signed Joey Bosa, Yeah, and more that Bosa

945
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: has got to come off of his number a little bit.

946
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: He didn't make a good point in that if you're

947
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: sitting out there two weeks into free agency, all the

948
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: big money's been handed out, Juwan, you're not getting the

949
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: massive deal you thought you were going to get. No,

950
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: or not massive, but clearly not the dollar amount you

951
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 1: thought you were getting, considering you weren't one of those

952
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: first handful of dudes gone. And Bosa probably knew he

953
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna get signed, which is why he prices himself

954
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: and then waits for the right offer. Would be my guest,

955
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: it's kind of what happened last year.

956
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Jerfully Chan of NBC Sports Bay Area

957
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 3: with Mammeyoko had the report that Joey Bosa is now

958
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 3: looking to do like a discount just to play with

959
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 3: his brother. And I would say at this point, like

960
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 3: a year ago, he made twelve to fifteen million whenever

961
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 3: it was with the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, he's not getting

962
00:44:58,800 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 3: that this.

963
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 1: Yeah. Becasemember last year were talking about what they could

964
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: potentially pay him. I remember thinking, oh boy, he got

965
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: way more than what the Niners we're gonna be willing

966
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: to pay.

967
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 3: Right And as far as Juwan Jennings, uh, look, I

968
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 3: think he got bad advice from his agent Drew Rosenhaus.

969
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 3: Where Juwan is a really good receiver and probably the

970
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 3: best blocking wide receiver in football, He's not the type

971
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 3: of wide receiver I think.

972
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: So, I mean, I'm not gonna get me to argue you.

973
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: I'm just like I had never qualified it like that.

974
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 3: He he values it way more than most wide receivers.

975
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: Do you remember all that stuff two years ago? Were

976
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: shoving guys out of the back of the end zone. Absolutely,

977
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,479
Speaker 1: and then like guys were getting mad at him because

978
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: he was he was just mauling him. Yeah, but that's

979
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: like he doesn't why he played for Kyle early on.

980
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 3: He's not the type of player that takes the top

981
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 3: of it off of a defense, and I think that

982
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 3: he's definitely a scheme fit. He fits in Kyle's scheme.

983
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 3: He could fit definitely with Mike McDaniel or Sean McVay.

984
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 3: There's only a handful of teams that see the value

985
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 3: in that. And you see a lot, you know, across

986
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 3: the league, guys like Wandel Robertson or Romeo Dobbs, the

987
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 3: you know, the the high the you know, the guys

988
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 3: were looked at, you know, very fondly as far as

989
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 3: like the wide class in a free agent class exactly

990
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 3: as far as the free agency class, those were the

991
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 3: top guys and they're making you know, sixteen to seventeen

992
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 3: million a year, where Juwan I think is unrealistic about

993
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 3: his asking price, where he wants twenty to twenty five million. Yeah,

994
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 3: so he may wait. I wouldn't wait too long, but.

995
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: Again, I want to date with Shannon Elizabeth.

996
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly what happened exactly I mean, And by the way,

997
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 3: I watched I don't watch any of the flag football

998
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 3: competition on Saturday.

999
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: I watched clips.

1000
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 3: I mean, Tom Brady was oppressed with the way he

1001
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 3: eluded some pass rush and through a dime to uh

1002
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs. Did you see the dell one was sick too?

1003
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 3: He also also through a pretty good two pointed version

1004
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 3: of Rob Gronkowski. It's clear, Uh, the NFL players shouan

1005
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 3: no part of the flag football and in the Olympics

1006
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 3: at twenty twenty eight.

1007
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 1: Anyway can be Art is solid on the hot seat

1008
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: after that defensive performances the all hands, he was the

1009
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: all time decordinator or whatever executive.

1010
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 3: And by the way, dude, I was thinking the same

1011
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 3: thing like Joe Burrow gets like a pitch back where

1012
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 3: he's running with the football, and I mean, obviously like.

1013
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: This was an exhibition, and it was. It was an

1014
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: exhibition in terms of like it doesn't mean anything for

1015
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: anything except that we got to look at this. And

1016
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: to Matt's point, like if McCaffrey's out there playing, you're like,

1017
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: it's cool to have the best football players out there,

1018
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 1: but the active players are like, Dude, if Miles Garrett

1019
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 1: rolls his ankle running for a ya to grab a touch,

1020
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: you know, to do anything in a flag football game,

1021
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: it's like when Clay you know, blew his acl out

1022
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: right playing pick up basketball. But that's what basketball players

1023
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: do in the off season. Yeah, football players don't play

1024
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: football in the offseason.

1025
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 3: Now, that's the last thing you need is Joe Burt

1026
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: having another injury where you know, we know about the

1027
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 3: CAFs train a couple of years ago and his turf

1028
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 3: toe again. Like, if you want to compete in that thing,

1029
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 3: that's fine, But at the same time, I don't love

1030
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 3: the idea of NFL players competing in that.

1031
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: By the way, Joey Bosa made what was he ad

1032
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: twelve million last year? Yeah, with the Bills something like that.

1033
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: I was a little higher than that. I'll find it

1034
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: for you. I thought I just had it. Anyway, we'll

1035
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: get that for you. Adam Copeland deep hop dan done

1036
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: with you. On a Monday afternoon, we are going to

1037
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: catch up with Susan Slesser, who is going to be

1038
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: at Oracle Park for the Giants and Sultannis de Montarey

1039
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: tonight from the Mexican League late to night at six

1040
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 1: forty five, a six to thirty pre game. They played

1041
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: tonight and tomorrow and then we got Opening Day and

1042
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: our Giants can be our roundtable two to four on Wednesday.

1043
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: Don't need a ticket to a ten to fifty eight

1044
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: Socials Roundtable with us all on three shows represented. We'll

1045
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: be hanging talking some Giants ball ahead of game one

1046
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: of one sixty two. But when we come back, your

1047
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: sound sure featuring new Giants manager Tony Vitello, was on

1048
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: the Giants Talk podcast talking about Kyle Shanahan and Steve Kerr,

1049
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:27,959
Speaker 1: and you got to hear some of the fun sound

1050
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: from across the weekend, including Vanderbilt against Nebraska and the

1051
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 1: commentators talking about a player whose name we might all

1052
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: know on the Vanderbilt hoops team. We'll talk about it

1053
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: next on the Sports Leader