WEBVTT - It Just Doesn't Matter! 0:00:07.260 --> 0:00:11.110 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the 0:00:11.130 --> 0:00:13.110 George Washington Broadcast Center. 0:00:13.170 --> 0:00:15.370 Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 0:00:15.550 --> 0:00:16.919 Armstrong and Getty. 0:00:17.100 --> 0:00:31.250 And now, here's Armstrong and Getty. Chinese are extremely sensitive 0:00:31.810 --> 0:00:35.860 about these nuances in diplomacy. They've been at it for 0:00:35.860 --> 0:00:39.420 4,000 years. The Chinese, when they get upset, can do 0:00:39.500 --> 0:00:42.240 things like take over an island here or there or 0:00:42.500 --> 0:00:46.100 tear up an agreement or start threatening or do other 0:00:46.140 --> 0:00:48.459 things that could cause a crisis. 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:54.320 So that's interesting. That's Charles Krauthammer, the late Charles Krauthammer, 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:57.920 who we were big fans of back in the day, 2016. 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:03.780 When I suppose who was Trump got elected in 16. 0:01:03.780 --> 0:01:09.040 So was that the end of Obama? Anyway, Chinese care 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:12.830 about these little tiny snubs and that sort of stuff. 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:14.630 So you have to be very, very careful with the 0:01:15.690 --> 0:01:19.690 diplomacy and the showing up at the airport like Trump 0:01:19.709 --> 0:01:21.530 did last night and the red carpet and having the 0:01:21.569 --> 0:01:23.990 right fork in the right place and all that sort 0:01:24.010 --> 0:01:28.600 of stuff, I guess. Whatever. Get over yourselves, is what 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:32.100 I would say. So President Xi is in Washington, D.C., 0:01:32.690 --> 0:01:35.070 and they're having their big dinner tonight. And let's get 0:01:35.110 --> 0:01:39.450 a report from Lucas Tomlinson of Fox with what's going on. 0:01:39.950 --> 0:01:42.910 The relationship between the United States and China will define 0:01:42.950 --> 0:01:43.850 the 21st century. 0:01:43.950 --> 0:01:47.620 Not everyone is thrilled about Chinese President Xi Jinping's visit 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:50.400 to the White House after reports surfaced that China was 0:01:50.420 --> 0:01:54.100 supplying satellite imagery to help Iran kill American troops in 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:57.970 recent months. Among the critics, the Senate Armed Services Committee's 0:01:58.130 --> 0:01:59.020 top Republican. 0:01:59.390 --> 0:02:03.840 I would have suggested the president not invite Xi Jinping 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:07.500 to Washington for such a lavish welcome. 0:02:07.780 --> 0:02:10.660 Secretary Rubio reacting to that suggestion today. 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:13.540 This is the second largest economy in the world and 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:16.840 a pretty substantial military that's undergoing the most rapid military 0:02:16.900 --> 0:02:18.180 buildup probably in history. 0:02:18.540 --> 0:02:20.640 So I thought that interesting back and forth over the 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:24.820 last couple of days. was worth noting i mean the 0:02:24.980 --> 0:02:28.579 chair of the armed services committee is no uh is 0:02:28.620 --> 0:02:31.299 not a nobody and him thinking it's a bad idea 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:34.959 to have g come now i saw uh whoa who's 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:37.870 that democratic senator who pretended he was a vietnam war 0:02:37.930 --> 0:02:40.430 hero and turned out not to be blumenthal i can't 0:02:40.470 --> 0:02:43.029 believe that he still gets to be a senator and 0:02:43.350 --> 0:02:46.470 discuss military matters as a guy who claimed to be 0:02:46.990 --> 0:02:51.070 a big time vietnam war vet with all these honors 0:02:51.090 --> 0:02:53.220 and everything like that and he didn't go at all. 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:56.560 It just shows you the way politics are. Anyway, I 0:02:56.600 --> 0:03:00.080 couldn't tell if Blumenthal, if this was just partisan, anything 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:03.560 Trump does is wrong, or if he actually thought we 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:06.570 shouldn't invite President Xi. I don't know, and I don't 0:03:06.650 --> 0:03:08.690 actually know what is the right answer on this. It 0:03:08.750 --> 0:03:13.150 is pretty weird. President Xi is financing Iran. We are 0:03:13.250 --> 0:03:18.170 at war with Iran. President Xi is daily attacking us. 0:03:18.190 --> 0:03:21.130 We've talked about this for years. The FBI opens up, what, 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:25.350 like 100 new investigations into Chinese hacks per day or 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:28.940 something like that? And we get together and have dinner 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:30.500 and smile at each other and act like we're friends. 0:03:30.780 --> 0:03:33.280 I don't know what the point of all that is. Anyway, 0:03:33.580 --> 0:03:34.310 the report rolls on. 0:03:34.890 --> 0:03:38.320 Talks on trade and artificial intelligence are expected to dominate 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:41.600 the summit in Washington, the leader's first meeting since Xi 0:03:41.660 --> 0:03:45.380 hosted Trump in Beijing in May. President Trump mentioned China 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:48.630 only one time in his UN address, vowing the U.S. 0:03:48.870 --> 0:03:50.330 must win the AI race. 0:03:50.350 --> 0:03:53.500 I'm not going to stifle growth of something that will 0:03:53.540 --> 0:03:55.580 be bigger than the Industrial Revolution. 0:03:55.740 --> 0:03:57.240 And we will be very careful. 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:00.040 After Trump called on Putin to end his war on 0:04:00.140 --> 0:04:04.280 Ukraine at the UN, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky thinks she 0:04:04.380 --> 0:04:05.780 can help make that happen. 0:04:05.900 --> 0:04:10.160 He is someone who can influence Russia, too, more than many, 0:04:10.500 --> 0:04:11.440 many others can. 0:04:11.500 --> 0:04:15.740 I'm not optimistic about that either. I'm really stuck on 0:04:15.780 --> 0:04:22.239 this whole UN speeches, fancy meals is really close to worthless. 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:26.860 The amount of coverage it gets as a ratio to 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:29.880 how important it is, is way out of. I mean, 0:04:30.060 --> 0:04:32.349 every television bank I'm looking at right now has got 0:04:32.380 --> 0:04:35.589 some picture of Trump and she and coming on the 0:04:35.630 --> 0:04:38.089 plane and talking about the speeches from yesterday. And I 0:04:38.130 --> 0:04:42.330 just I just don't think it means anything. Maybe I'm naive, 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:45.300 but show me the results of previous stuff a week 0:04:45.420 --> 0:04:49.380 from now. Tell me what from these speeches at the U.N. 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:52.710 or this meal we'll be talking about as a as 0:04:52.770 --> 0:04:56.850 a still ongoing result of this. Anything at all? I'm 0:04:57.410 --> 0:05:01.530 beyond skeptical. I want to hear how CBS approached this. 0:05:01.570 --> 0:05:03.610 Give me 44. This is Nancy Cordes. 0:05:04.029 --> 0:05:04.469 The U.S. 0:05:04.529 --> 0:05:09.960 And China are at odds over AI, trade, and most importantly, Iran. 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:12.980 Trump, stop fawning over strongmen. 0:05:13.700 --> 0:05:15.620 Stop calling Xi a great gentleman. 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:20.010 Lawmakers from both sides urged Trump to dial back the 0:05:20.050 --> 0:05:20.810 warm welcome. 0:05:21.110 --> 0:05:25.710 His guest is a brutal, unelected, and oppressive dictator. 0:05:26.860 --> 0:05:30.840 OK, so that from Schumer. Now, that was just partisan politics. 0:05:31.779 --> 0:05:35.900 Barack Obama welcomed President Xi also. And at that time, 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:39.339 we we already knew President Xi was an evil communist 0:05:39.380 --> 0:05:42.940 dictator who had slaves and was hacking into everything he 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:44.740 could hack in and stealing our technology and all the 0:05:44.779 --> 0:05:47.080 bad things he was doing back then. And he welcomed him. 0:05:47.100 --> 0:05:49.020 So let's God, I wish we didn't have to play 0:05:49.050 --> 0:05:54.070 these partisan games all the time. Something a little more concrete. 0:05:54.230 --> 0:05:58.190 Scott Besant, he is the Secretary of the Treasury, was 0:05:58.230 --> 0:06:03.120 interviewed yesterday talking about how many meetings they might have. 0:06:03.860 --> 0:06:06.480 This is our second in-person meeting. There's a chance they 0:06:06.540 --> 0:06:10.120 may have a historic four meetings this year, four meetings 0:06:10.180 --> 0:06:14.240 between the most powerful country in the world and the 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:19.099 second largest economy in the world. Visit in Beijing, this visit, 0:06:19.740 --> 0:06:24.980 visit to Shenzhen. for a conference in November, and then 0:06:25.020 --> 0:06:27.680 President Xi coming for the G20 in Doral. 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:34.760 By the way, that G20 meeting in Florida, Trump invited 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:39.760 Vladimir Putin to that. Now that one I definitely don't 0:06:39.820 --> 0:06:42.339 think is cool, that you have Putin come to the 0:06:42.380 --> 0:06:46.570 United States and eat dinner. with you and treated like 0:06:46.670 --> 0:06:49.650 an equal on the world stage, like a, like any 0:06:49.710 --> 0:06:52.830 sort of normal actor on the world stage. That is 0:06:52.950 --> 0:06:55.300 just completely out of bounds. I don't know if Trump 0:06:55.420 --> 0:06:58.240 just invited him knowing he won't come or the security 0:06:58.300 --> 0:07:01.279 would not allow it to come or for all the 0:07:01.339 --> 0:07:04.279 different reasons that it shouldn't happen. It won't happen. And 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:06.680 so he just invited him for, I don't know the 0:07:06.700 --> 0:07:10.500 way Trump works people, but the idea of Vladimir Putin 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.910 having dinner at the golf club in Florida, while he's 0:07:15.070 --> 0:07:22.080 bombing children's hospitals in Ukraine. That's just appalling. Anyway, this 0:07:24.180 --> 0:07:27.190 is the News Nation take on the whole AI angle 0:07:27.380 --> 0:07:29.710 on the summit between Trump and Xi today. 0:07:30.230 --> 0:07:32.530 Say the AI race is one of their top priorities 0:07:32.570 --> 0:07:34.330 for this U.S.-China relationship. 0:07:35.150 --> 0:07:37.570 Do you think this should be a focus. 0:07:37.150 --> 0:07:39.890 Headed into today, just taking that into consideration? 0:07:40.270 --> 0:07:42.180 Whether or not it should be a focus, it simply 0:07:42.310 --> 0:07:42.980 is a focus. 0:07:43.860 --> 0:07:47.640 Americans may not associate it directly with the China relationship, 0:07:47.660 --> 0:07:49.740 but of course, it affects all of our lives. 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:52.400 I have a colleague who likes to say, it's like electricity. 0:07:52.740 --> 0:07:55.240 You don't think about it, but it's part of absolutely everything. 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:57.160 So of course, it's going into this summit. It's going 0:07:57.200 --> 0:07:58.040 into our daily lives. 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:03.780 Yeah, I'm not optimistic that China has any interest in 0:08:03.820 --> 0:08:05.820 playing ball on this whole AI thing. I was going 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:07.290 to throw out a question to those of you. 0:08:07.310 --> 0:08:07.390 I. 0:08:09.110 --> 0:08:13.470 Got two questions. So, Executive Producer Hanson came up with 0:08:13.490 --> 0:08:18.790 a good idea today. We need an AI Tim Beloyer. 0:08:18.890 --> 0:08:22.770 If you've been fans of this show for years... we 0:08:22.830 --> 0:08:24.850 used to talk about legal stuff and this guy named 0:08:24.910 --> 0:08:26.770 Tim who happened to be a lawyer would call into 0:08:26.790 --> 0:08:29.060 the show and say, Hey, good point about this, or 0:08:29.100 --> 0:08:31.440 you're wrong about this, or here's something you might want 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:33.720 to know about this thing you were talking about. And 0:08:34.020 --> 0:08:36.600 over time, Tim became a regular guest and they know 0:08:36.620 --> 0:08:40.460 he's fabulously successful and writes books that get national attention 0:08:40.500 --> 0:08:42.059 and all that sort of stuff. But we'd love to 0:08:42.100 --> 0:08:44.479 have an AI, Tim, the lawyer we know because we're 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:47.449 on in Silicon Valley, we've been on in San Francisco 0:08:47.490 --> 0:08:49.969 for 23 years now. 0:08:50.050 --> 0:08:50.250 Wow. 0:08:51.330 --> 0:08:55.180 Um, And all over the Bay Area, all over California, 0:08:55.200 --> 0:09:01.510 around the country. If you are some sort of expert 0:09:01.550 --> 0:09:05.610 around AI and you would like to either email us 0:09:05.690 --> 0:09:07.429 or call in on a regular basis, or we could 0:09:07.450 --> 0:09:09.230 just have you as a guest whenever we need to, 0:09:09.250 --> 0:09:11.750 that would be fantastic. And here's one of the questions 0:09:11.830 --> 0:09:17.099 I would ask. People keep portraying this race that we've 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.940 got going on between us and China. Well, we can't 0:09:19.980 --> 0:09:23.010 slow down on AI or China will win the race. 0:09:23.090 --> 0:09:26.950 They'll get ahead of us. I've heard multiple reports that 0:09:26.990 --> 0:09:32.010 China's basically six months behind us. Does that framework work? 0:09:32.370 --> 0:09:35.980 Does that make any sense? Is there a getting to 0:09:36.020 --> 0:09:40.359 the end, like getting there, that will give us an 0:09:40.420 --> 0:09:46.429 advantage of any consequence over... China, if they get there, 0:09:46.510 --> 0:09:49.420 whatever there means, if they get there six months later, 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:52.240 I'm thinking of the whole nuclear race. Now, it was 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:56.430 important for us getting nuclear weapons before Hitler did. Very, 0:09:56.470 --> 0:09:58.890 very important for obvious reasons to end World War Two 0:09:58.929 --> 0:10:02.239 or before Japan was. really working on a nuclear weapon 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:06.940 or anywhere close. But Germany was and the Soviet Union 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:09.120 got one quickly. But, well, I guess that's part of 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:13.300 my point. So we get there to to AGI, artificial 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:16.710 general intelligence, where computers are programming themselves and everything like that. 0:10:17.340 --> 0:10:21.400 If China gets there six months later, have we done anything, 0:10:21.420 --> 0:10:25.820 won anything? Is that part of the whole conversation as 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.270 important as it's portrayed all the time? We need to 0:10:28.330 --> 0:10:32.470 stay ahead of China. Or what happens would be the 0:10:32.490 --> 0:10:35.030 question I'd ask to whatever AI expert we have out there. 0:10:35.070 --> 0:10:41.610 You can text us 415-295-KFTC or email or, you know, 0:10:41.650 --> 0:10:43.150 we'll set up a phone call. Love to talk to 0:10:43.170 --> 0:10:47.620 you about that. need to talk to you about this 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:51.420 a couple of years ago i had reason to do 0:10:51.460 --> 0:10:54.020 a little research on somebody and i had their phone 0:10:54.059 --> 0:10:55.439 number and i thought i wonder what i can find 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:59.120 out about somebody based on their phone number i had 0:10:59.179 --> 0:11:02.000 no idea this i was shocked i mean i'm naive 0:11:02.140 --> 0:11:04.100 i didn't know there are all these websites where you 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:06.880 can pay like five dollars a month and you put 0:11:06.900 --> 0:11:09.450 in somebody's phone number and you get all this information 0:11:09.490 --> 0:11:13.220 and there are tons of websites like that um We 0:11:13.260 --> 0:11:16.230 got this story. Authorities say a Kentucky officer ran the 0:11:16.270 --> 0:11:20.429 same two license plates 2000 times. They belong to the 0:11:20.510 --> 0:11:23.770 mother of his child. She had an order of protection 0:11:23.790 --> 0:11:25.949 against him. He didn't hack anything. He just typed in 0:11:25.970 --> 0:11:30.050 the plate. One of 120,000 cameras. The Washington Post found 0:11:30.090 --> 0:11:33.250 at least 50 more. Most were watching women. So here 0:11:33.290 --> 0:11:36.829 is what is happening. You've got logs of your license 0:11:36.929 --> 0:11:39.610 plate and your locations and everything out there. You've got 0:11:39.670 --> 0:11:42.350 all the information that you can get from a phone 0:11:42.390 --> 0:11:45.950 number that I mentioned. It's all out there. They're data brokers. 0:11:46.010 --> 0:11:49.740 They sell this stuff, home addresses, phone numbers, relatives, everywhere 0:11:49.790 --> 0:11:53.960 you've lived. Your habits, you don't want that stuff out 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:56.079 there for all kinds of safety reasons, all kinds of 0:11:56.140 --> 0:11:59.300 marketing reasons. That's why we use Incogni, I use Incogni. 0:11:59.340 --> 0:12:02.100 It sends removal requests to more than 420 data broker 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:04.780 and people search sites, then follows up so that you 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:09.750 don't get relisted. Go to Incogni.com slash Armstrong to get 60% off. 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:12.880 That's Incogni.com slash Armstrong. They can't harm you if they 0:12:12.900 --> 0:12:15.040 can't find you. I'm a big fan of that. As 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.339 we move into this weird world where all your information 0:12:17.380 --> 0:12:19.600 is floating around there on the web, and pretty soon AI, 0:12:19.780 --> 0:12:21.179 you'll be able to tell, I bet I could do 0:12:21.220 --> 0:12:24.600 this right now. Hey, AI, here's a phone number. Tell 0:12:24.620 --> 0:12:26.730 me everything you can about this person and then do that. 0:12:26.830 --> 0:12:30.369 Does AI go out there and scrub all those websites 0:12:30.429 --> 0:12:35.210 and try to get all the information? Horrifying. So Heather Myers, 0:12:35.330 --> 0:12:37.750 who's filling in for Katie Green doing news today, told 0:12:37.809 --> 0:12:39.840 us a story that she's been following a little bit 0:12:39.929 --> 0:12:42.480 earlier about, for the first time ever, a high school 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.480 degree isn't really worth that much less than a college degree. 0:12:45.500 --> 0:12:47.120 We're going to get the details on that coming up. 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:48.860 That's a big story. Stay tuned. 0:12:50.220 --> 0:12:55.239 Armstrong and Getty. 0:12:58.740 --> 0:13:00.400 The Armstrong and Getty Show. 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:07.000 We did get a text about that Lizzie Borden series 0:13:07.100 --> 0:13:10.660 on Netflix. They said it's really good, but very graphic, 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:14.179 so beware. Okay, so if you aren't the sort of 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.640 person that wants to see a hatcheting, maybe don't watch that. 0:13:17.940 --> 0:13:20.220 Heather Myers is nice enough to fill in for Katie 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.280 Green for a couple of days while Katie is doing 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:27.400 her anniversary trip. Heather is a longtime TV host and 0:13:27.460 --> 0:13:30.000 a correspondent for Newsmax right now. And what was the 0:13:30.020 --> 0:13:31.949 story you covered the other day that caught my attention? 0:13:32.610 --> 0:13:35.630 This caught my attention too, Jack, because I have a 0:13:35.670 --> 0:13:36.670 high school-aged son. 0:13:36.710 --> 0:13:37.790 I believe you do too. 0:13:38.390 --> 0:13:41.439 So for decades, young Americans have been told that that 0:13:41.580 --> 0:13:45.520 four-year college degree is the immediate ticket to a good job. 0:13:46.020 --> 0:13:48.400 But there's brand new data coming out about our labor 0:13:48.460 --> 0:13:51.860 market that shows that those with a recent college degree, 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:54.370 so a recent college grad, I'm talking between the ages 0:13:54.410 --> 0:13:58.130 of 22 and 26, are having one of the toughest 0:13:58.210 --> 0:14:02.770 times ever finding a job. At the same time, those 0:14:02.950 --> 0:14:06.630 without a bachelor's degree and maybe with just a high 0:14:06.670 --> 0:14:09.670 school diploma or partial college education are having one of 0:14:09.710 --> 0:14:12.910 the best job markets that they've experienced in the past 0:14:12.910 --> 0:14:13.530 20 years. 0:14:14.530 --> 0:14:17.880 I knew this was coming. Whenever I would talk about 0:14:17.910 --> 0:14:19.800 the fact like I'm not pushing my kids to go 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:21.620 to college, I have one that probably won't, one that 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:24.840 probably will, but I'm definitely not pushing it. And whenever 0:14:24.980 --> 0:14:26.620 I have mentioned that, people have said to me, well, 0:14:26.660 --> 0:14:29.510 you know, statistically, over time, people who graduate college make 0:14:29.550 --> 0:14:32.090 this much more money. That has been true always. I 0:14:32.130 --> 0:14:34.180 don't believe it's going to be true anymore. And I 0:14:34.220 --> 0:14:37.080 knew at some time, at some point, the data would 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:39.240 catch up to that. And I'm sure that's, you know, 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:42.360 roughly starting now and going forward. There's all kinds of 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:44.720 reasons for that. I've got a thing from a college 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:46.320 professor I'm going to read a little bit later in 0:14:46.340 --> 0:14:49.620 the show. Him talking about current students who know nothing, 0:14:50.060 --> 0:14:53.560 learn nothing, come out of college no more qualified than 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:56.200 when they went in, only poorer. And then you've got 0:14:56.220 --> 0:14:58.580 the whole thing. If I bring on a college graduate, 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:04.060 what crazy crap do they believe about the employer-employee relationship? And, 0:15:04.420 --> 0:15:07.250 you know, suing me for this and that and all. Yeah, 0:15:07.300 --> 0:15:07.950 who wants that? 0:15:09.270 --> 0:15:09.410 Right. 0:15:09.470 --> 0:15:11.760 And so this is interesting because the study touched on 0:15:11.820 --> 0:15:15.100 exactly what you just mentioned. A few of the other 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:18.420 reasons of why we're seeing this trend is that AI 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:22.550 has largely taken over entry level white collar jobs. So 0:15:22.610 --> 0:15:25.090 those recent college grads are coming out and usually you'd 0:15:25.110 --> 0:15:27.150 start kind of at the bottom of the ladder job. 0:15:27.330 --> 0:15:29.770 Those are now being done by AI for a lot 0:15:29.810 --> 0:15:30.470 of these companies. 0:15:30.510 --> 0:15:33.200 Those weren't jobs you needed a college degree for anyway. 0:15:33.220 --> 0:15:33.420 Right. 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:37.000 They're hiring college graduates to do college graduates are doing 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:38.400 them because it was all I could find. But that's 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.660 not no, that's not what got them the job. 0:15:41.380 --> 0:15:41.660 Right. 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:45.270 Another reason, simple supply and demand. So older workers and 0:15:45.350 --> 0:15:48.030 skilled trades are starting to retire. So that's creating demand 0:15:48.050 --> 0:15:51.630 for people who can do jobs that require hands on skills. 0:15:51.690 --> 0:15:55.290 I'm talking about your air conditioning repair person, your plumber, 0:15:55.310 --> 0:15:59.100 your electrician. Those trade jobs are still, you know, they 0:15:59.140 --> 0:16:00.820 need to fill a lot of spots in those jobs. 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:03.160 There was something else here. 0:16:03.340 --> 0:16:03.760 Oh, okay. 0:16:03.780 --> 0:16:05.970 So, you know when you're talking about something in front 0:16:05.990 --> 0:16:08.250 of your phone and then sooner than later you get 0:16:08.270 --> 0:16:10.190 a video about this exact topic? 0:16:10.330 --> 0:16:10.510 Right. 0:16:10.530 --> 0:16:12.360 We were discussing this just the other day, yeah. 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:16.040 Yeah, so I'm talking about this subject matter with my 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:17.860 husband and all of a sudden I get this video 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:21.690 for a company called Degree Free. And basically what this 0:16:21.810 --> 0:16:24.470 woman and I believe her husband have done is they 0:16:24.510 --> 0:16:28.610 have figured out how to reverse engineer your way into 0:16:28.650 --> 0:16:31.450 the career that you want to go into without getting 0:16:31.490 --> 0:16:35.600 a college degree. So I interviewed her for the same story. 0:16:35.740 --> 0:16:39.880 And she basically said that the most important thing that 0:16:39.950 --> 0:16:43.610 employers are looking for is no longer a bachelor's degree. 0:16:43.710 --> 0:16:45.110 It's work experience. 0:16:45.630 --> 0:16:48.170 So if you don't have any work experience and it 0:16:48.190 --> 0:16:50.990 could be something as like being a high school waiter 0:16:51.010 --> 0:16:53.310 or waitress at a restaurant or a lifeguard, any of 0:16:53.350 --> 0:16:57.480 those kinds of jobs, employers want that more than anything 0:16:57.520 --> 0:16:58.140 else right now. 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:04.240 That doesn't surprise me a bit. Uh, It's very easy 0:17:04.300 --> 0:17:07.640 for a lot of young people now to, and part 0:17:07.660 --> 0:17:09.620 of it is we've crafted a society where it's very 0:17:09.660 --> 0:17:11.450 hard to get a job as a teenager now. There's 0:17:11.470 --> 0:17:13.490 all kinds of things that I did that you're not 0:17:13.510 --> 0:17:16.660 allowed to do anymore. Anyway, so you could graduate from 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:19.990 college with a worthless degree. You're out there. You're 22, 0:17:19.990 --> 0:17:23.359 23 years old. You've never worked a day in your life. 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:26.310 You've never had a boss. You've never had it been 0:17:26.350 --> 0:17:28.690 given a task that you had to perform or anything ever. 0:17:29.230 --> 0:17:29.630 Yeah. 0:17:30.010 --> 0:17:32.230 There's a big difference between that person and you hire 0:17:32.250 --> 0:17:33.890 somebody who's had a couple of jobs. And who cares 0:17:33.930 --> 0:17:36.040 about the degree? Because we all know in most cases. 0:17:36.820 --> 0:17:39.030 They're worthless. Yeah. 0:17:39.050 --> 0:17:39.940 So that was her point. 0:17:40.030 --> 0:17:42.930 She said that for a lot of these employers, these 0:17:43.030 --> 0:17:46.050 recent college grads are coming in with zero work experience 0:17:46.350 --> 0:17:48.750 and then asking for a salary similar to what the 0:17:48.810 --> 0:17:51.070 owner of the company is bringing home every week. 0:17:51.250 --> 0:17:52.879 And it's not the kids' fault. I don't want to 0:17:52.910 --> 0:17:55.840 make it sound like that. It's horrible that we sold 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:59.040 this line of crap to college kids and parents about 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:02.500 this for years. All these different kind of gender study 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:04.660 degrees and everything like that that aren't going to do 0:18:05.060 --> 0:18:07.460 anything for you. Oh, that's horrible. 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:10.139 Expensive piece of paper. And they have all this debt. 0:18:10.580 --> 0:18:12.020 And then they have to go back and get the 0:18:12.060 --> 0:18:14.560 waiter waitressing job or that entry level job that they 0:18:14.580 --> 0:18:15.880 could have gotten at 18. 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:16.120 Right. 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:19.910 Thanks for that story, Heather. Really appreciate that. We'll talk 0:18:19.930 --> 0:18:23.590 to you a little bit later. That is not surprising. 0:18:23.670 --> 0:18:26.150 The data has caught up to what we all thought 0:18:26.170 --> 0:18:28.670 was going to happen anyway. Stay tuned for more. 0:18:28.990 --> 0:18:30.119 Armstrong and Getty. 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:41.400 The Armstrong and Getty Show. 0:18:41.420 --> 0:18:46.970 I'm going to continue this conversation we were just having 0:18:46.990 --> 0:18:49.590 with Gary Dietrich, who joins the Armstrong and Getty Show 0:18:49.650 --> 0:18:53.419 right now. CBS Television and iHeartRadio political analyst Gary Dietrich. 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:54.080 How are you today, Gary? 0:18:54.890 --> 0:18:56.560 Hey, I'm doing great, Jack. And by the way, I 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:59.880 just heard a rumor recently that you've been taking some 0:18:59.960 --> 0:19:03.640 flack for cream in your coffee, buddy, but I want 0:19:03.660 --> 0:19:08.109 you to know dairy farmers nationwide, 110% behind the little 0:19:08.150 --> 0:19:11.870 teaspoon or two that you use every day. So don't 0:19:11.930 --> 0:19:13.170 push back on that, Jack. 0:19:13.230 --> 0:19:13.540 Come on. 0:19:15.170 --> 0:19:15.390 Right. 0:19:15.670 --> 0:19:17.390 I feel less of a man because I put cream 0:19:17.410 --> 0:19:20.760 in my coffee. So we were just having this conversation 0:19:20.859 --> 0:19:22.520 about and then we'll get into politics. But we're just 0:19:22.540 --> 0:19:24.859 having this conversation about for the first time ever, the 0:19:24.900 --> 0:19:29.220 job market is better for young people with a high 0:19:29.260 --> 0:19:32.190 school degree than with a college degree for a variety 0:19:32.210 --> 0:19:35.710 of reasons, including the whole everybody's caught on to the 0:19:35.770 --> 0:19:38.470 fact that a lot of these college degrees, you didn't 0:19:38.530 --> 0:19:42.890 learn a single thing. And maybe what you learned was 0:19:42.990 --> 0:19:44.720 to be in a pain in the ass employee who's 0:19:44.740 --> 0:19:47.550 going to sue me over something crazy. But anyway, over 0:19:47.590 --> 0:19:49.510 the years, I've given you we've made a lot of 0:19:49.550 --> 0:19:51.550 fun of you going. to Harvard, which I'm actually very 0:19:51.609 --> 0:19:53.850 impressed with because you went to Harvard back in the 0:19:53.869 --> 0:19:57.209 day when when that meant something. But do you have 0:19:57.260 --> 0:20:01.540 any opinions on this? What college is worth now versus 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:05.240 the old days? Like, for instance, your alma mater, Harvard, 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:08.899 up until recently when they tried to change this. The 0:20:08.940 --> 0:20:11.060 whole how many A's they gave out thing that got 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:16.740 so much attention. If you include A minus, 84% of 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:20.179 the grades given out at Harvard were A's. A's are 0:20:20.300 --> 0:20:21.280 A minuses. 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:22.220 84%. 0:20:22.220 --> 0:20:23.280 I mean, that's insane. 0:20:24.820 --> 0:20:27.100 Well, you know, given the fact that I got all 0:20:27.140 --> 0:20:28.980 D's when I got out of there, you know, this 0:20:29.010 --> 0:20:32.229 does probably speak well. Just joking. Here's the thing, Jack. 0:20:32.410 --> 0:20:35.610 It's funny you're having this conversation today. Literally, Jack, two 0:20:35.650 --> 0:20:39.190 days ago, they had an online conversation with Harvard's president, 0:20:39.490 --> 0:20:42.710 who I sat through the entire hour of this Zoom call, whatever, 0:20:42.970 --> 0:20:44.230 just to see what he had to say about it. 0:20:44.230 --> 0:20:46.469 Of course, he dealt with federal lawsuits and all. But 0:20:46.630 --> 0:20:49.880 great inflation, believe it or not, was the first topic discussed. 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:52.260 he addressed. Now, I want to say one caveat. I 0:20:52.300 --> 0:20:54.640