WEBVTT - Robert Cahaly On Midterm Polling

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<v Speaker 2>It is our pleasure to welcome our next guest to

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<v Speaker 2>the program.

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<v Speaker 3>He is a pollster. and founder of the Trafalgar Group.

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<v Speaker 2>You can get him online at the TrafalgarGroup.org and follow

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<v Speaker 2>him on X at Robert Cahaley.

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<v Speaker 3>Robert Cahaley, welcome.

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<v Speaker 6>It's good to be here.

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<v Speaker 3>Good to have you. Thanks so much for stopping by.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start out by talking about this election that happened.

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<v Speaker 7>I figured you were just going to skip right through

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<v Speaker 7>the baseball.

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<v Speaker 6>And you did.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm an Angel fan. It's October. We never talk baseball

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<v Speaker 3>in October.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I'm not sure how much longer the Dodgers are

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<v Speaker 7>going to be talking baseball in October.

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<v Speaker 3>That is very, very, very true.

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<v Speaker 6>Of course, the Braves haven't been talking for a week,

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<v Speaker 6>so what can I.

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<v Speaker 3>Say?

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<v Speaker 2>So we just had an election in Brazil not long ago.

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<v Speaker 2>where the pre-election polls suggested that the left-wing candidates would

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<v Speaker 2>not only win at the executive level, they would win

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<v Speaker 2>legislatively as well. As it turns out, all of that

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<v Speaker 2>polling data was wrong, where the right-of-center party ended up

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<v Speaker 2>doing better at the executive level than they were supposed to,

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<v Speaker 2>and the same thing happened at the legislative level. In

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<v Speaker 2>the United States, we obviously have an election coming up

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<v Speaker 2>not long ago, and I want to read for you

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<v Speaker 2>a post on X that Frank Luntz put out not

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<v Speaker 2>long ago. Here is what Frank Luntz said. Frequent and

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<v Speaker 2>reliably Democratic voters, meaning voted D in four out of

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<v Speaker 2>four elections, are answering polls much more often than frequent

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<v Speaker 2>Republican voters. Some pollsters have compensated for this since 2016.

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<v Speaker 2>but many still haven't, and that will inevitably skew polling averages.

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<v Speaker 2>You take what we learned in Brazil, you take that tweet,

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<v Speaker 2>and you look at historical data of where the polls

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<v Speaker 2>were in places like, let's say, Ohio, or in Maine

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<v Speaker 2>with Susan Collins, where the Republican traditionally outperforms whatever the

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<v Speaker 2>polling averages happen to be. Does this seem like an

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<v Speaker 2>election where that trend will continue, or do you think

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<v Speaker 2>the polls are right and the Republicans are going to

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<v Speaker 2>get slammed?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, first of all, Frank Lutz has come a long

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<v Speaker 7>way from the tweet, deny the election, make no mistake,

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<v Speaker 7>Hillary Clinton will be the next president of the United States.

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<v Speaker 7>So I'm glad to see he's recognized that polls are

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<v Speaker 7>sometimes flawed. That's a good move on his part to compensate.

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<v Speaker 7>But what I would say is I can't speak for

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<v Speaker 7>all pollsters. What I can speak for is the ones

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<v Speaker 7>that I know that I think are reliable. I looked

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<v Speaker 7>at groups like Insider Advantage, Rasmussen, Qantas Insights. Some of

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<v Speaker 7>these polls, I think, are a lot more likely to

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<v Speaker 7>be right and consistently have been more likely to be right.

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<v Speaker 7>2024 is just another example of that. But what I

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<v Speaker 7>would say is it does affect what.

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<v Speaker 6>The turnout is. And we're seeing a new trend that

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<v Speaker 6>I think is positive.

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<v Speaker 7>That might speak to how the polls could be unrepresentative

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<v Speaker 7>of a growing Republican potential here, is seniors have come

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<v Speaker 7>a little bit back to the Republican side, a lot

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<v Speaker 7>more than we even saw in the presidential election in 2024.

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<v Speaker 6>A lot of seniors.

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<v Speaker 7>That kind of leaned Republican had some problems with Trump,

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<v Speaker 7>but Trump compensated with so many other voters. But what

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<v Speaker 7>we're seeing now is that these seniors are very afraid

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<v Speaker 7>of this whole socialism talk, the generation that remembers who

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<v Speaker 7>Gary Gagarin is and why he's famous understands what the

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<v Speaker 7>threat of socialism is. And the thing that we have

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<v Speaker 7>to look at is young people are not as engaged

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<v Speaker 7>in this election as.

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<v Speaker 6>People thought they would be.

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<v Speaker 7>So if those seniors who, let me add one more point,

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<v Speaker 7>are less influenced by gas prices because A lot of

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<v Speaker 7>them drive a lot less, and a lot of them

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<v Speaker 7>are a lot more stable in their income. They're less

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<v Speaker 7>likely to be influenced by the one thing that is

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<v Speaker 7>influencing people. If those seniors turn out at the numbers

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<v Speaker 7>we think they could, when we take on turnout models

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<v Speaker 7>and we give them the strength that they could potentially have, yes,

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<v Speaker 7>every one of these polls, even some from our groups,

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<v Speaker 7>could be one or two points lower than what the

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<v Speaker 7>Republicans are going to be. We're going to monitor turnout

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<v Speaker 7>and the early voting. And if we need to adjust

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<v Speaker 7>those models and turnout, we're going to do so.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you something else that I think is at play.

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<v Speaker 2>We long know that Republicans have been skeptical of the

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<v Speaker 2>mainstream media because of the liberal bias. However, I think

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<v Speaker 2>something is different now than maybe how it used to

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<v Speaker 2>be 10 years ago, 15, 20 years ago. And that is,

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<v Speaker 2>take the jury in Massachusetts at the Lindsay Clancy trial,

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<v Speaker 2>where you have a juror who's supposed to be granted anonymity,

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<v Speaker 2>who not only was outed by the mainstream media, but

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<v Speaker 2>his life was effectively ruined. The guy felt in fear

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<v Speaker 2>for his safety. He had to go to a hiding place,

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<v Speaker 2>all because he looked at the evidence and voted the

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<v Speaker 2>way that he thought he should vote based on what

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<v Speaker 2>was presented in front of him. If a Republican, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans in blue states or blue cities, they get a

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<v Speaker 2>call from the New York Times.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, I'm from CNN.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me all kinds of biographical data about yourself and

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<v Speaker 2>tell me who you're voting for up and down the ballot.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't trust them. They don't trust them.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't think that they're going to use that information,

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<v Speaker 2>keep it private, keep it confidential. They know that there

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<v Speaker 2>are social repercussions if you answer those questions the wrong way.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you tell them who you are and you

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<v Speaker 2>give them your age and your gender and your educational

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<v Speaker 2>background and your occupation and all kinds of things, it

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<v Speaker 2>could ruin your life. And I think Republicans just don't

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<v Speaker 2>want the trouble. And I don't know how you fix that.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you're speaking my language. I've been talking about this

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<v Speaker 6>since 2016.

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<v Speaker 7>We know what's referred to as the social desirability bias.

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<v Speaker 7>And that's when people are hesitant to give an answer

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<v Speaker 7>because they don't want to be judged. by the person

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<v Speaker 7>asking the question. Now, the way that is manifested to

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<v Speaker 7>modern polling, even more so than 2016, and polling has

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<v Speaker 7>changed a lot even since then, is a lot more

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<v Speaker 7>of this is done via the internet, with text, with emails.

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<v Speaker 7>But still, it's that anonymity that they're concerned about. And

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<v Speaker 7>it's one of the reasons we have on our website,

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<v Speaker 7>we make it very clear that the first thing we

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<v Speaker 7>do is we guarantee people's privacy. We delete people's names

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<v Speaker 7>from the database before we even begin the survey.

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<v Speaker 6>But yes, absolutely, people are hesitant.

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<v Speaker 7>Now, one of the ways we got around that in

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<v Speaker 7>2016 is we asked what we call the neighbor question.

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<v Speaker 7>And you say, this is how somebody responds to who

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<v Speaker 7>they are for president. And then the next question is, well,

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<v Speaker 7>who do you think most of your neighbors are voting for?

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<v Speaker 7>And that's when you find out a little bit more

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<v Speaker 7>about where their head is correctly. And so that's one

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<v Speaker 7>of the things that helped us put together a model.

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<v Speaker 7>that predicted that Trump would win. And that's kind of

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<v Speaker 7>what brought our firm to notoriety in 2016 is when

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<v Speaker 7>we did very much do that, even predicting the correct

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<v Speaker 7>electoral college turnout. So it is a real concern. And

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<v Speaker 7>that's one of the number one questions we get.

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<v Speaker 6>Who are you? Why are you asking this question?

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<v Speaker 7>There's absolute concern about what surveys are, what you're going

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<v Speaker 7>to do with them, and all this data that's being sought.

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<v Speaker 7>But let's not also remember One of the other problems

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<v Speaker 7>the mainstream, quote unquote, I call them the dinosaur pollsters have,

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<v Speaker 7>is they are asking crazy long questions, crazy long questionnaires.

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<v Speaker 7>And so when you look at it, how many people

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<v Speaker 7>do you know on a Tuesday night who are going

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<v Speaker 7>to answer 30 questions? Almost nobody. So who are they

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<v Speaker 7>talking to? What they end up talking to is people

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<v Speaker 7>who have very strong opinions. And what we already know

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<v Speaker 7>is on the right, the people's strong opinions are already

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<v Speaker 7>are very suspect of the people asking the questions. So yes,

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<v Speaker 7>it's a concern. Yes, we have ways to mitigate it.

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<v Speaker 7>We wouldn't have gotten with the intents of the point

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<v Speaker 7>of Georgia and North Carolina and Michigan and the presidential

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<v Speaker 7>election if we didn't.

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<v Speaker 6>And it is something that we're dealing with. Now, am

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<v Speaker 6>I going to explain to you how we do it?

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<v Speaker 7>No, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>A friend of mine called me this morning and asked

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<v Speaker 2>me what I think is going to happen nationally in

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<v Speaker 2>this election. And what I think is that the Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>are going to win, but I don't think it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be 2006. I don't think it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a big blue wave like I think many of them

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<v Speaker 2>are hoping for. And I came across this quote from Politico.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a Democratic member of Congress in a close race.

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<v Speaker 2>Here is what he told Politico about where he sees

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<v Speaker 2>this election going. Quote, it's starting to feel overhyped. Dems

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<v Speaker 2>are going to win 20 seats?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't feel like that to me, end quote. Where

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<v Speaker 2>do you think this election is going?

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<v Speaker 7>I would tell you if this election were held in September,

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<v Speaker 7>it would have been a bloodbath for the Republicans. But

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<v Speaker 7>things are moving. Things are changing. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>people learning a lot more about the Democrats. One of

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<v Speaker 7>the things Republicans do wrong, and I've been talking about

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<v Speaker 7>this for years, is they let unknown Democrats spend all

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<v Speaker 7>this time through the summer building name ID without going

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<v Speaker 7>after them, even though they've got oppo books that are

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<v Speaker 7>full of information. It is a lot easier to take

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<v Speaker 7>somebody down. It is like you take them down before

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<v Speaker 7>you let them build themselves up. And so I do

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<v Speaker 7>fault the Republicans for not letting loose of the strings

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<v Speaker 7>a little earlier and preventing some of.

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<v Speaker 6>These Democrats from building.

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<v Speaker 7>Positive name ID when it could have kept the.

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<v Speaker 6>Negative information out there and lowered it.

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<v Speaker 7>But what is concerning now is that I think that

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<v Speaker 7>the Republicans are spending the money and we're seeing the movement.

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<v Speaker 7>And I'm very concerned as to whether we get to

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<v Speaker 7>a point where it is going to hit at the

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<v Speaker 7>right moment. Elections are like waves, and you've got to

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<v Speaker 7>hit them at the right point, and they go up

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<v Speaker 7>and down.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel better about the Republicans' chances in the next week.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know what it's going to look like in

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<v Speaker 7>two weeks, but the wave is definitely moving the right

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<v Speaker 7>direction for the Republicans.

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<v Speaker 6>The question is, does it crest and start again? That

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<v Speaker 6>time will tell.

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<v Speaker 2>Texas is one of the Senate seats that most people

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<v Speaker 2>who are following this election closely, are keeping a very, very,

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<v Speaker 2>very close eye on. You have the Democratic candidate ahead

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<v Speaker 2>in that.

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<v Speaker 3>Race, but within the margin of error.

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<v Speaker 2>Elon Musk has come out and said that he will

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<v Speaker 2>spend whatever it takes, up to including $ 300 million, to

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<v Speaker 2>save that seat for the Republicans, because the Republicans think

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<v Speaker 2>if they keep Texas, they keep control of the United

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<v Speaker 2>States Senate. Where do you see that election going?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I will tell you, our poll finished right as

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<v Speaker 7>this whole incident with him going out of town and

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<v Speaker 7>where he was and the possibility that he was lying

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<v Speaker 7>about where he was and seeking some kind of mental help.

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<v Speaker 7>And so that scandal was kind of breaking as we

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<v Speaker 7>finished our field work. So I actually think Texas probably

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<v Speaker 7>looks better today than our poll demonstrates it looks. And

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<v Speaker 7>we will, of course, go back into the field in Texas.

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<v Speaker 7>It means a lot when somebody like Elon Musk says

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<v Speaker 7>whatever it takes. It means less when he puts a

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<v Speaker 7>cap on it at $ 300 million. So we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 7>And it also depends on how well he spends the money.

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<v Speaker 7>Because pouring it into the same systems that consistently make

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<v Speaker 7>consultants rich and end up resulting in the same result

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<v Speaker 7>that would have happened if the money hadn't been spent

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<v Speaker 7>is the right answer. Pouring it into things that work

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<v Speaker 7>is what matters. And I sincerely hope, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>I think he's one of the most amazing people ever.

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<v Speaker 7>And I really hope he pours it into the right

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<v Speaker 7>places that can make the difference that needs to be made.

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<v Speaker 6>And just, you know, not buying a few more yachts

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<v Speaker 6>for a few more consultants.

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<v Speaker 2>What Senate seat are the Republicans competitive in that they

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<v Speaker 2>should have no business being competitive in in a year

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<v Speaker 2>like this?

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<v Speaker 6>Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 7>Tafoya is a different kind of candidate. And there's been

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<v Speaker 7>some specific, you know, scandals, obviously, with Somalians. And all

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<v Speaker 7>the fraud and everything else that's been going on there,

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<v Speaker 7>it has turned into the governor being very unpopular now.

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<v Speaker 7>And she has a different draw sheet. And it's just

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<v Speaker 7>the timing is right for that one to maybe do

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<v Speaker 7>something a little different. And I can see a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of ticket splitters who end up voting Democrat for governor

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<v Speaker 7>and voting for DeFoya for Senate.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's one that I think is a sleeper.

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<v Speaker 7>Another one that could be a sleeper, and we don't

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<v Speaker 7>see it yet, but my gut tells me it could be,

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<v Speaker 7>is New Hampshire. Now, we still have Sununu down, but

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<v Speaker 7>we also have Ayotte up. And it doesn't make any

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<v Speaker 7>sense that Ayotte can be up and Sununu can be

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<v Speaker 7>down by that much, especially with Sununu's being so vividly anti-Trump.

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<v Speaker 7>And the fact is, New Hampshire is not so pro-Trump.

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<v Speaker 7>I think that in the end, a lot of New

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<v Speaker 7>Hampshire's will end up going with the name they trust, Sununu.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think that one may surprise people too.

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<v Speaker 2>Besides Texas, which Senate seat that the Republicans currently have

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<v Speaker 2>right now should give them heartburn at night worrying over?

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<v Speaker 7>They shouldn't have heartburn about North Carolina because I don't

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<v Speaker 7>think they can win, to be honest.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that one's gone. I think they should have

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of heartburn about Ohio.

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<v Speaker 7>Sherry Brown is coming back and really making this thing

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<v Speaker 7>very competitive. I think they should have a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>heartburn about Alaska. I mean, the fact is, in Alaska,

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<v Speaker 7>when you had the race the last time, you had

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<v Speaker 7>Rakowski in a race that she really could have lost

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<v Speaker 7>had all the Senate money not poured to benefit her,

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<v Speaker 7>even though Chewbacca was a more conservative person. Were it

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<v Speaker 7>not for Mitch McConnell's intervention in that race, it could

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<v Speaker 7>have gone the right way. But Alaska worries me, especially

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<v Speaker 7>with the ranked choice and what's going on there. I

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<v Speaker 7>think if I were Republicans, I'd be most worried about

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<v Speaker 7>those three. And pay attention to Kansas and South Carolina.

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<v Speaker 7>South Carolina, I think maybe trended in the right direction,

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<v Speaker 7>but they did the same mistake I keep talking about.

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<v Speaker 6>They let Dr.

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<v Speaker 7>Andrews, and believe you me, I mean, I'm in South

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<v Speaker 7>Carolina at this moment. I watch TV. I know how

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<v Speaker 7>many ads I see during college football games. And you

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<v Speaker 7>can't be outnumbered with positive ads 10 to 1 and win.

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<v Speaker 7>It took them too long to get the money to

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<v Speaker 7>South Carolina to start combating Dr. Andrews in this race.

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<v Speaker 7>I think Graham can win, but it didn't have to

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<v Speaker 7>be this much of a contest. But that's what happens

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<v Speaker 7>when you let somebody identify themselves and you don't identify

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<v Speaker 7>them first.

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan is a state where the Democrats have the Senate

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<v Speaker 2>seat that's up for grabs this time around.

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<v Speaker 3>The incumbent is retiring.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Abdul Al-Sayed, who's the Democratic nominee in that race.

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<v Speaker 2>He has previously stated that he and his family have

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<v Speaker 2>no connections at all to the Muslim Brotherhood. It was

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<v Speaker 2>just reported yesterday by Fox News. Oh yeah, they have

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<v Speaker 2>connections all over the place. In a state with a

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<v Speaker 2>sizable Jewish population and a lot of Jewish Democrats who

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<v Speaker 2>are not prepared to vote for the Democratic nominee. How

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<v Speaker 2>damaging is that story to his prospects?

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<v Speaker 6>It's damaging.

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<v Speaker 7>What he said about Michigan football might be more damaging.

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<v Speaker 7>The next thing this guy's going to do is execute

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<v Speaker 7>a puppy on TV. I can't figure out what you

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<v Speaker 7>would want to do more than what he's done to

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<v Speaker 7>ostracize the voters in Michigan. It's almost like he's daring

0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:52.800
<v Speaker 7>them to vote against him. And I got a feeling

0:17:52.820 --> 0:17:53.560
<v Speaker 7>they're going to take him.

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<v Speaker 6>Up on his dare.

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<v Speaker 3>Last question before you go. In the L.A.

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<v Speaker 2>Mayor's race, we have seen that socialism really sells more

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<v Speaker 2>the younger you are, where Karen Bass is dominating among

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<v Speaker 2>older voters and Nithya Raman, the socialist councilwoman, is doing

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<v Speaker 2>really well with younger voters. The younger you are, the

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<v Speaker 2>more likely you are to support her. Is that something

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<v Speaker 2>that's just happening here in California, or is that a

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<v Speaker 2>trend you're seeing nationwide?

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<v Speaker 8>Nope.

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<v Speaker 7>Like I said, these young people hear socialism and they

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<v Speaker 7>don't see the manifestation of socialism. They don't understand what

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<v Speaker 7>happened in Korea. They don't remember East and West Germany. Again,

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<v Speaker 7>they don't remember who Yuri Gagarin was and what it

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<v Speaker 7>felt like to fear a socialist country and what they

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<v Speaker 7>might do to America.

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<v Speaker 6>They don't remember what happened to Cuba.

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<v Speaker 7>And so these young people don't have any real world

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<v Speaker 7>experience in what socialism means. And so they idealize it

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<v Speaker 7>in a way that has never, ever happened in the

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<v Speaker 7>history of the world. So they're not in touch with reality.

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<v Speaker 2>Robert Cahaley, pollster and founder of the Trafalgar Group, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best in the business. You can follow him

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<v Speaker 2>on X at Robert Cahaley. Robert Cahaley, thanks so much

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<v Speaker 2>for being here.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you for being here as well. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 6>having me.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm here every day from noon to three.

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<v Speaker 6>Of course you are.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to be. Robert Cahaley, everyone.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, sir.

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<v Speaker 3>And Randy, I think we're just under 500 likes.

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<v Speaker 4>John Fleischman of so doesn't matter.com part two premieres tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 4>through some of the statewide races and we go through

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<v Speaker 4>So the Voter Guide Part 2 premieres tomorrow at 2.59 p.m.

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<v Speaker 4>from 7 till at least 10 p.m. with election results. California,

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<v Speaker 4>Los Angeles, the Bay Area, possibly some of the nationwide

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<v Speaker 4>races as well. So watch us count the votes Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 4>November 3rd at 7 p.m. at johnnydontlike.com.

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<v Speaker 3>And later this month, we're going to be in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 4>On Friday, October 30th, we're going to San Francisco for

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<v Speaker 4>our first big live broadcast in the Bay Area. We'll

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<v Speaker 4>then take Muni over there. We're going to have a

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<v Speaker 4>great time. We want to see you there. We want

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<v Speaker 4>to meet all of our Bay Area listeners that have

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<v Speaker 4>been listening to us on KSFO for the past year

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<v Speaker 4>and a half. And we want you there. to spread

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<v Speaker 4>the word about Prop 43. Susan Shelley will be there

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<v Speaker 4>as we spread the message about the Local Taxpayer Protection

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<v Speaker 4>Act to the Bay Area. You can help us out.

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<v Speaker 4>A yes on 43 means it's harder to raise your taxes,

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<v Speaker 4>and we need to spread that message far and wide.

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<v Speaker 4>If you want a free yard sign, go to yeson43. com,

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<v Speaker 4>and we'll see you at Johnny Foley's Friday the 30th

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<v Speaker 4>from noon to 3 in San Francisco's Union Square.

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<v Speaker 2>And right now, it's time to open up the California

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<v Speaker 2>Crime Blotter.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, boy.

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<v Speaker 6>He's the cashier.

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<v Speaker 3>He's dummy.

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<v Speaker 1>We couldn't make this stuff up if we tried.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, hell no, baby boy. Let me get up

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<v Speaker 4>on out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the California Crime Blotter.

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<v Speaker 2>And Randy, this edition of the blotter involves Selma Blair.

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<v Speaker 4>The actress Selma Blair had some kind of insane psychotic

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<v Speaker 4>episode on a Delta flight from LAX to JFK where

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<v Speaker 4>she attacked a flight attendant and other people on the

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<v Speaker 4>plane started screaming incessantly, had to be restrained when she

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<v Speaker 4>tried to open the door. And her attorneys are saying

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<v Speaker 4>it's because she didn't take her medication.

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<v Speaker 2>Did she not take her medication or did she take?

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<v Speaker 2>a special kind of medication, and mix it with booze.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's funny you say that. She had an incident

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<v Speaker 4>on a plane 10 years ago, and the excuse then

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<v Speaker 4>was she mixed her medication with booze. For more on

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<v Speaker 4>this insanity, here is KTLA 5.

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<v Speaker 9>Actress Selma Blair could face prison time after a mid-air

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<v Speaker 9>meltdown in which she's accused of attacking two flight attendants,

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<v Speaker 9>biting one, and striking the other.

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<v Speaker 4>She bit somebody?

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<v Speaker 3>My God.

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<v Speaker 4>Is she a vampire?

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<v Speaker 9>It happened on a Delta flight from Los Angeles to

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<v Speaker 9>New York, and Blair had to be restrained by the

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<v Speaker 9>flight crew.

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<v Speaker 1>And it didn't stop there.

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<v Speaker 8>She's also accused of attacking a Port Authority officer and

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<v Speaker 8>a hospital nurse.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody got a taste.

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<v Speaker 3>Whoa, this lady likes to fight.

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<v Speaker 6>Beth McDade, live near LAX tonight with details on this.

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<v Speaker 1>MB.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, good evening, you guys. Yes, Semmel Blair is facing

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<v Speaker 10>two separate cases. She is facing a New York State

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<v Speaker 10>case for allegedly attacking a police officer, a nurse, and

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<v Speaker 10>a federal case for allegedly assaulting two flight attendants midair. Now,

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<v Speaker 10>in that federal case, no.

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<v Speaker 4>You've got to imagine, whatever the outcome of any of

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<v Speaker 4>this is, she's never getting allowed on a plane again,

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<v Speaker 4>is she?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, put her on the no-fly list.

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<v Speaker 10>Court date has yet been set, but as for that

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<v Speaker 10>New York State case, well, Selma Blair pled not guilty

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<v Speaker 10>in that one.

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<v Speaker 8>On court authority police, the defendant kicked the officer in

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<v Speaker 8>the face, the neck, and the chest while the officer

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<v Speaker 8>was on active duty. That officer sustained swelling to the face,

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<v Speaker 8>substantial pain to the arm.

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<v Speaker 10>Selma Blair appeared in a Queens courtroom.

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<v Speaker 3>Is she known for being a psycho on land, too,

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<v Speaker 3>or just in the air?

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't heard anything about her in her personal life

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<v Speaker 4>outside of she's had a couple of incidents on the

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<v Speaker 4>all airplanes. Some people get a little freaked out about

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<v Speaker 4>flying and they take the Zanny bars and maybe they

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<v Speaker 4>mixed them with something.

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<v Speaker 10>Monday afternoon, looking stone faced with her hands cuffed behind

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<v Speaker 10>her back. She's been charged with assaulting a Port Authority

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<v Speaker 10>police officer and a nurse following an alleged violent incident

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<v Speaker 10>on a Delta flight Sunday evening. while traveling from LAX

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<v Speaker 10>to JFK.

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<v Speaker 8>The defendant was subsequently then transferred to the hospital for

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<v Speaker 8>treatment where the defendant allegedly then kicked the nurse in

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<v Speaker 8>the chest.

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<v Speaker 4>My goodness.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I said it before on the air, my

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<v Speaker 2>sister is an ER nurse and they get beat up

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<v Speaker 2>all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I would imagine.

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<v Speaker 10>The actress is known for her roles in Cruel Intentions,

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<v Speaker 10>Legally Blonde and Hellboy.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not afraid.

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<v Speaker 10>She allegedly assaulted two flight attendants on the New York

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<v Speaker 10>City-bound flight when they tried to restrain her from opening

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<v Speaker 10>the plane door.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't open the door mid-flight, lady.

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<v Speaker 3>What, did she want to go skydiving?

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<v Speaker 10>The 54-year-old is accused of biting one flight attendant and

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<v Speaker 10>punching another. The pilot requested medical personnel to meet them

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<v Speaker 10>at the gate.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one flight attendant and one passenger that sustained some

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<v Speaker 2>minor injuries, a bloody nose as well as some.

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<v Speaker 1>Bite marks as well.

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<v Speaker 4>If they have to take this thing to trial because

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<v Speaker 4>she's pleading not guilty, is the flight attendant going to

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<v Speaker 4>have to show up there and show the bite marks

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<v Speaker 4>and they're going to match them to her teeth? Wait,

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<v Speaker 4>that was a Seinfeld episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we need an ambulance or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But we need to get some medical personnel.

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<v Speaker 7>At the gate to look at their injuries.

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<v Speaker 10>TMZ obtained this audio.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I should give a warning. This scream that you're

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<v Speaker 4>about to hear is blood curdling. So if you're listening

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<v Speaker 4>to us with headphones on, turn the volume down.

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<v Speaker 10>Of the star screaming as she was exiting the plane

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<v Speaker 10>at JFK.

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<v Speaker 1>While being.

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<v Speaker 4>Sounds like a horror house.

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<v Speaker 10>Transported to a hospital. She allegedly kicked the police officer

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<v Speaker 10>several times and then a nurse when she got there.

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<v Speaker 10>Her attorney blames her behavior on missed medication and exhaustion

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<v Speaker 10>from overworking.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I don't know about that one.

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<v Speaker 2>No, this doesn't sound like missed medication. This sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>a mixture of different kinds of medication. This is not

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<v Speaker 2>a blood pressure pill. This is something else mixed with booze,

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<v Speaker 2>in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 4>Additionally, Your Honor, at one point during the flight, there

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<v Speaker 4>was an incident where Ms. Blair actually fell and hit

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<v Speaker 4>her head.

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<v Speaker 7>These factors, Your Honor, coupled with the altitude, resulted in

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<v Speaker 7>a state of severe confusion.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, she bumped her head and then she went to

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<v Speaker 4>an insane fugue state and started biting people and trying

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<v Speaker 4>to open the escape hatch?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so in the chat, they say that she's on

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<v Speaker 2>serious drugs for MS. But does that make you psychotic?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 6>And disorientation.

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<v Speaker 10>KTLA's legal expert says Blair could face up to seven

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<v Speaker 10>years if convicted of assaulting the nurse and officer in

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<v Speaker 10>New York State and more time in federal prison if

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<v Speaker 10>convicted of assaulting the flight attendants midair.

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<v Speaker 11>For federal court, the amount of time that you spend

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<v Speaker 11>in custody is really reliant on how severe the The

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<v Speaker 11>injuries were.

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<v Speaker 4>Did the bite draw blood?

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<v Speaker 10>And Blair has been released on bail tonight. She's due

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<v Speaker 10>back in a courtroom on that New York state. case

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<v Speaker 10>on January 18th for a grand jury hearing. Now, Blair

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<v Speaker 10>was taken off another Delta flight on a stretcher here

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<v Speaker 10>at LAX 10 years ago for making alarming statements. At

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<v Speaker 10>the time, she said that she had mixed alcohol and medication.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, boy.

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<v Speaker 4>It sounds like we've got a pattern.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go.

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<v Speaker 2>I have known multiple people who had MS. None of

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<v Speaker 2>them were psychotic.

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<v Speaker 10>For now, reporting near LAX, Mary Beth McDade. We'll send

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<v Speaker 10>it back to you guys in the studio.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I know there's a lot of nervous flyers out there,

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<v Speaker 2>and people don't necessarily get the prescription from their own doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>You go down to Mexico, and you get whatever they're,

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<v Speaker 2>or you borrow something from a friend, whatever the case

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<v Speaker 2>may be. But there's a reason why you're not supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to do that. Because if it turns you demonic on

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<v Speaker 2>a plane, you're going to end up in a courtroom handcuffed.

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<v Speaker 4>If you think that story was crazy, wait till you

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<v Speaker 4>hear when we come back, because we have a poisoning story.

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<v Speaker 1>It's happened yet again.

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<v Speaker 4>It's wild, wild west out here.

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<v Speaker 1>&lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt; &lt;HAL&gt;

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<v Speaker 1>It's the California Crime Blotter with John and Randy.

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<v Speaker 3>And Randy, this edition involves a poisoning.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, John, imagine you're in any other state but California.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And you get caught trying to poison someone to death

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<v Speaker 4>and are charged with attempted murder, how much time do

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<v Speaker 4>you think you would get?

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<v Speaker 3>25 years.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're in California, you get two years of probation

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<v Speaker 4>and your record expunged. For more on this insane story

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<v Speaker 4>at a Berkeley where a woman was being poisoned by

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<v Speaker 4>her coworker, Here is ABC7 in the Bay.

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<v Speaker 2>A Berkeley woman is speaking out after her co-worker was

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<v Speaker 2>found guilty of poisoning her over the course of two years.

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<v Speaker 6>Now a court has wiped his record. And she sat

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<v Speaker 6>down with ABC7.

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<v Speaker 3>Eyewitness news reporter Dryden Quigley to tell her side of

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<v Speaker 3>the story.

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<v Speaker 4>Dryden is in the newsroom with that.

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<v Speaker 3>Dryden.

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<v Speaker 5>Dan, a Berkeley engineer, had tried everything. Doctors, psychologists, even

0:32:38.910 --> 0:32:42.870
<v Speaker 5>anxiety treatments. But nothing could explain the vomiting and hair

0:32:42.910 --> 0:32:46.540
<v Speaker 5>loss that only seemed to be getting worse. Until she

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<v Speaker 5>set up a small camera watching her desk at work.

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<v Speaker 5>Rong Yuan says she couldn't believe what she was seeing.

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<v Speaker 5>Her co-worker pouring something into her water bottle that would

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<v Speaker 5>later be identified as a toxic chemical.

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<v Speaker 4>This is straight out of a true crime novel.

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<v Speaker 3>That guy should go in front of a firing squad

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<v Speaker 3>for that.

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<v Speaker 5>What did you think when you saw this?

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<v Speaker 12>Shocked. I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 5>In 2017, Yuan started experiencing mysterious symptoms, vomiting and hair loss.

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<v Speaker 5>For more than two years, she visited countless doctors for answers.

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<v Speaker 5>Then her mother noticed something. Her water bottle smelled strange.

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<v Speaker 5>After a deep cleaning failed to help, Yuan decided to

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<v Speaker 5>set up a small camera at her work desk.

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<v Speaker 12>I never expected I can capture anybody.

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<v Speaker 5>A sample of the water found 3.5 million times the

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<v Speaker 5>federal level for cadmium. Yuan and her parents tested positive

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<v Speaker 5>for cadmium poisoning. Her co-worker, David Xu, was charged with

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<v Speaker 5>premeditated attempted murder.

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<v Speaker 4>Which sounds pretty good considering that he's on video poisoning

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<v Speaker 4>her water bottle every single day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that sounds like it should be a really serious charge.

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<v Speaker 5>In a deal, he pled guilty to poisoning for two

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<v Speaker 5>years probation.

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<v Speaker 4>Come on!

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<v Speaker 12>I don't think he deserves a second chance. A second

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<v Speaker 12>chance for water.

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<v Speaker 5>Today, despite an objection.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you rehabilitate someone that's a poisoner?

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<v Speaker 2>And this is not Pamela Price, correct?

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<v Speaker 3>This is the new one?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, so this was back in 2017. So this had

0:34:35.050 --> 0:34:38.189
<v Speaker 4>to have been way before Pamela Price. But still, what

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<v Speaker 4>the hell?

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<v Speaker 5>From the DA's office, the court agreed to expunge Xu's

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<v Speaker 5>felony conviction.

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<v Speaker 12>They couldn't find out this criminal record.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I kind of understand if, oh, someone got

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<v Speaker 4>busted for weed when they're 18. Yeah, maybe we expunge that.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't want that affecting your job prospects. But if

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<v Speaker 4>you tried to murder somebody, we're going to wipe your

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<v Speaker 4>record clean?

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine being an employer and not being allowed to know

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<v Speaker 2>this information, and you bring a monster like this into

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<v Speaker 2>your organization.

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<v Speaker 4>Especially when the person he was trying to murder was

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<v Speaker 4>his coworker.

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<v Speaker 5>So you could be working next to him?

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<v Speaker 10>Yes.

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<v Speaker 6>It's other people.

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<v Speaker 1>Not me, no.

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<v Speaker 12>But it's other people, other poor people.

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<v Speaker 5>Yuan says she still doesn't know exactly why Xu did this,

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<v Speaker 5>but she remembers him not letting her work in the

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<v Speaker 5>lab and referring her to other jobs.

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<v Speaker 4>What kind of co-worker dispute leads someone to want to

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<v Speaker 4>poison them to death?

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds like he had a real bee in his

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<v Speaker 3>bonnet with her.

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<v Speaker 12>Why do I talk to him?

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<v Speaker 1>He's a nobody.

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<v Speaker 12>He's a coward.

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<v Speaker 5>Yuan says her dad's health declined ever since he cooked

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<v Speaker 5>using her water bottle.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, that part of the story is very strange.

0:35:57.850 --> 0:36:01.100
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, why is he using her leftover water from work

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<v Speaker 2>to cook with?

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<v Speaker 4>And there's a lot of things about this story that

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<v Speaker 4>are bizarre.

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<v Speaker 5>He died last year from heart failure. She's speaking today

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<v Speaker 5>in honor of him.

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<v Speaker 12>And to come out of my comfort zone, to be

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<v Speaker 12>interviewed by you, to tell the public... what kind of

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<v Speaker 12>effect we have to the family and how broken the

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<v Speaker 12>system is.

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<v Speaker 5>Nearly 10 years now after her poisoning, Juan still has

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<v Speaker 5>severe health issues and can only work part-time. She asked

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<v Speaker 5>for restitution at half a million dollars, but only received $ 7, 000.

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<v Speaker 4>This state really cares about crime victims, don't they? She

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<v Speaker 4>was poisoned. He got two years of probation, is getting

0:36:53.930 --> 0:36:58.969
<v Speaker 4>his record expunged, and only had to give her.

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<v Speaker 12>$ 7, 000.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, she says she's left with no other option but

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<v Speaker 5>to try and move on. In the newsroom, Dryden Quigley,

0:37:05.430 --> 0:37:06.319
<v Speaker 5>ABC7 Eyewitness News.

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<v Speaker 4>There you go. A bizarre, insane poisoning story that is

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<v Speaker 4>emblematic of where California is.

0:37:16.570 --> 0:37:18.989
<v Speaker 3>There has got to be more to this story than

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<v Speaker 3>what we know.

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<v Speaker 4>You think there's some kind of tiff that led up

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<v Speaker 4>to this?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah. No, I don't even think it's that. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you think the odds are one of them's a

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<v Speaker 2>spy and they're trying to kill him?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, you think that's what's going on here? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't the last one that just got caught was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be spying on someone who was here from Taiwan?

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<v Speaker 2>It was someone from mainland China who was a spy

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<v Speaker 2>who was spying on someone from Taiwan.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was the person who was masquerading as an

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<v Speaker 4>Irvine real estate agent. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of the things that spies do to try

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<v Speaker 2>to get rid of people who are problematic is poison them.

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<v Speaker 3>Wasn't there a guy in Eastern Europe who was a real.

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<v Speaker 2>Good-looking guy who got on the wrong side of the

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<v Speaker 2>Russian government And then they poisoned him and his face

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<v Speaker 2>ended up looking like a raisin.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a catcher's mitt.

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<v Speaker 4>That is a very old school Kremlin move.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But the Chinese government isn't far from that. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of those communist regimes, that's how they operate. They send

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<v Speaker 2>spies in and they try to poison people and kill them.

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<v Speaker 4>It is a bizarre, insane story. But regardless of what

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<v Speaker 4>the intentions were here, how do you get someone who

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<v Speaker 4>is charged with attempted murder, video evidence, a sweetheart deal

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<v Speaker 4>where they have two years of probation?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you, there are key aspects of this story

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<v Speaker 2>that we do not know.

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<v Speaker 4>Think there's another side to this?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I do.

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<v Speaker 4>The thing with the water bottle was really bizarre. Why

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<v Speaker 4>is the dad cooking with the water from the water bottle?

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<v Speaker 3>None of it makes sense. None of it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what we got for you in today's crime blotter, everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a weird one.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a strange one for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>That's going to do it for us today, but we'll

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<v Speaker 2>be back tomorrow at noon for another edition of The

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<v Speaker 2>John Phillips Show.