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Speaker 3: John Dickinson Villa name for Brian Murphy.
Speaker 2: Today Murph wrapping up some of his summer long vacation plans.
Speaker 2: He'll be back Monday morning with a full list of
Speaker 2: hums and bums as we turn our attention towards the
Speaker 2: forty nine ers season. Also want to note that I'm
Speaker 2: sure my guy Murph will want to address the situation
Speaker 2: with Greg Silver and Greg Papa Monday morning. We addressed
Speaker 2: it earlier today in the show in the first thirty
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Speaker 2: and we might have a few more words towards the
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Speaker 2: out what's going on here at the Sports Leader and
Speaker 2: how we continue to move forward because we do still
Speaker 2: have forty nine of football to talk about, and the
Speaker 2: season starts five weeks from today.
Speaker 3: JD next week is.
Speaker 2: The first preseason game of the year for the forty
Speaker 2: nine Ers, taken on to Tennessee Titans. We've got the
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame game tonight between the Panthers and the
Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals, which means we are fully deep in forty
Speaker 2: nine er talk and travel talk.
Speaker 3: Apparently.
Speaker 2: We were just talking about this with Matt Mayoko about
Speaker 2: the Rams travel plans which were released yesterday, reported on
Speaker 2: by ESPN's Dan Graziano that the Rams will fly into
Speaker 2: Australia the day before their opening game against the forty
Speaker 2: nine ers and then fly out right after. Now, of
Speaker 2: course both teams will be flying out right after, but
Speaker 2: a different approach versus what the forty nine ers are doing.
Speaker 2: I believe flying out eight to nine days early to
Speaker 2: get acclimated to the weather. Sure about the elevation down
Speaker 2: in Australia. I know teams have done this before when
Speaker 2: they have games down in Mexico City or when they
Speaker 2: play in high elevation, to try to get your body
Speaker 2: ready for that game. But two completely different strategies here
Speaker 2: being implemented by your San Francisco forty nine Ers and
Speaker 2: the La Rams of Sean McVay JD. I'll toss it
Speaker 2: to you which is the better strategy. Who do you
Speaker 2: think has a bigger or should I say bigger advantage
Speaker 2: week one down in Australia. Well, it's hard to argue
Speaker 2: with either one of these coaches. And I'm sure both
Speaker 2: teams are doing extreme research. And I know Maddy was
Speaker 2: talking about the twenty ten to forty nine ers and
Speaker 2: the way they went about doing it in comparison to
Speaker 2: the Broncos team that they played back then, And the
Speaker 2: Niners do all the research now and they they want
Speaker 2: to have a normal week, They want to get there,
Speaker 2: they want to adjust, they want to go through what
Speaker 2: would be a normal practice week there in the lead
Speaker 2: up to the game. The Rams, though, as we noted
Speaker 2: a little bit yesterday on the show, they went to
Speaker 2: London last year against Jacksonville and they did something more
Speaker 2: similar to what they're going to be doing for this
Speaker 2: game down in Australia, which is they basically arrived the
Speaker 2: morning of which would be the equivalent of the night before.
Speaker 3: So think night game.
Speaker 4: In London, right arrive the morning of that night game
Speaker 4: in London, but basically the equivalent of what would be
Speaker 4: like the night before if you were playing a normal
Speaker 4: maybe afternoon game, and they show and go, they get
Speaker 4: rested up, they go to the state, they go to
Speaker 4: the stay and they play the game, they fly out
Speaker 4: basically make an all one fell swoop, and they had
Speaker 4: success with that last year, which I think is leading
Speaker 4: them to extend this to Melbourne, which I think is
Speaker 4: even a different animal.
Speaker 3: And that's almost twice the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so that's why it's hard to argue against
Speaker 2: the facts because to your point, the Rams have done
Speaker 2: a similar strategy.
Speaker 3: Now it's worked for them.
Speaker 2: It's worked, so if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Speaker 2: But also a little bit of a different strategy because
Speaker 2: now the Rams would technically be landing in Australia the
Speaker 2: night before, sleeping in the hotel than playing the next day,
Speaker 2: So a little bit different of a sleep schedule versus
Speaker 2: maybe sleeping on the plane, which it sounds like they
Speaker 2: did when they played in London. Yeah, and look at
Speaker 2: that long of a ride.
Speaker 4: I think it's you know, that long of a ride
Speaker 4: in terms of the plane trip, guys are going to sleep,
Speaker 4: I think, regardless, a lot of that regardless. But yeah,
Speaker 4: it does sound as if and I've gotten confused on
Speaker 4: it when you try to go back and forth as
Speaker 4: to the day, what the timing will be there versus
Speaker 4: what the timing would be on a body clock in
Speaker 4: terms of say coming from California, which both these teams
Speaker 4: will be in the RAMS even the day before. But yeah,
Speaker 4: it sounds as if they're going to get there. I
Speaker 4: mean he said the day before, so basically Wednesday. So
Speaker 4: to think of the game as Thursday night here, even
Speaker 4: though it's Friday morning, and even though it's Friday morning there,
Speaker 4: that the Rams would be leaving Wednesday to do the
Speaker 4: fifteen hour flight basically get there with enough time to
Speaker 4: sleep and then get up and go to the game
Speaker 4: that the next day and basically make it all one,
Speaker 4: all one.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know what that at, like forty.
Speaker 4: Something our trip, I mean, I mean think about fifteen
Speaker 4: on a plane and fifteen on a plane and then
Speaker 4: what would amount to roughly I don't have their exact
Speaker 4: itinerary here in front, but it would it would basically
Speaker 4: amount to I think they would be in Melbourne for
Speaker 4: less time than they would be on the plane either way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going to spend more time flying than they
Speaker 2: will actually be on the field or just on the
Speaker 2: ground way in Australia one way. Then they're going to
Speaker 2: hop on a bird and do it again on the
Speaker 2: way back.
Speaker 4: They would be in Melbourne less than fifteen hours, which
Speaker 4: is the flight time both ways. So it's almost like
Speaker 4: think of it in terms of like you got fifteen
Speaker 4: hour flight, you got about fifteen hours there, and then
Speaker 4: you got a fifteen hour flight. Basically boom, we're getting
Speaker 4: it all in in forty eight hours.
Speaker 2: Yeah, essentially. How I heard the Dirty Work Boys yesterday
Speaker 2: riffing about Derek Pappa's tripped to Italy a few weeks ago.
Speaker 2: I mean, that guy was in and out of Italy
Speaker 2: lane less than three days. I mean maybe he took
Speaker 2: the strategy from Sean McVay showing up like Seal Team six.
Speaker 2: But I mean, jd I'm a man that gets confused
Speaker 2: with the time zones here in America. Now you're asking
Speaker 2: me to do math and time zones all over the world.
Speaker 2: As Jason Kidds said, there's a lot of confusion because
Speaker 2: it was confusion. But I'd have to think, even with
Speaker 2: my simple mind, my simple brain, that the forty nine
Speaker 2: ers would have the advantage here. Now it's hard to
Speaker 2: argue against the Rams because of their track record, but
Speaker 2: like this is a similar thing that happens in fight
Speaker 2: camps with MMA fighters and boxers trying to get out
Speaker 2: to an area early so your body can act on me.
Speaker 2: I guess the negatives would be, maybe you'll throw too
Speaker 2: many shrimps on the barbie, maybe you have too many fosters,
Speaker 2: maybe you have too good of a time done in Australia.
Speaker 2: Like I would assume with this being such a huge
Speaker 2: international game that the NFL would want both teams there
Speaker 2: early to do a media tour and all of that,
Speaker 2: but it sounds like the Rams are going to be
Speaker 2: able to.
Speaker 3: Skip out on all that. Yeah, I think they've given some.
Speaker 4: Leeway on that in terms of the fact that it's
Speaker 4: it's obviously a major inconvenience as much as it is
Speaker 4: at the same time kind of cool to have the
Speaker 4: teams playing and look and trust me, when you talk
Speaker 4: to forty nine er players and we did down at
Speaker 4: training camp last week, and I'm sure you guys as
Speaker 4: what like, they're not really looking forward to it, Like
Speaker 4: these are creatures of habit and routine and want to
Speaker 4: do everything for their bodies. So I think it was
Speaker 4: with all the research done, deemed pretty clearly that it's
Speaker 4: best to try and bite the bullet on the flight
Speaker 4: getting there, make sure you have an appropriate amount of
Speaker 4: time to rest and adjust, and then have the ability
Speaker 4: to at the point in which if it takes a
Speaker 4: day and a half to two days to rest and adjust,
Speaker 4: you then at that point have on what would be
Speaker 4: a normal week, right, get a get a get out
Speaker 4: there practice, get sort of the off day, get the
Speaker 4: three days of practice with the walkthrough, and just line
Speaker 4: everything up for what was is going to be that
Speaker 4: ten to thirty five am, which that and of itself,
Speaker 4: after you adjust the ten thirty five am is going
Speaker 4: to be a little weird on top of all of that.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm looking back at the Rams from last
Speaker 4: year because I wanted to see and they played. It
Speaker 4: was Jacksonville, So they played in Baltimore the week before,
Speaker 4: and a lot of times teams will well, you know,
Speaker 4: the league will put you in the East coast.
Speaker 3: If you're going to go.
Speaker 2: To London, stay on the East coast and from there, Yeah,
Speaker 2: they went Baltimore.
Speaker 4: They went Baltimore to or they went somewhere in the
Speaker 4: East coast. They might have stayed at in West Virginia.
Speaker 4: I don't know where they stayed, but anyway, it's basically
Speaker 4: a ten hour flight from the East Coast to London.
Speaker 3: You know eight I'm sorry seven eight.
Speaker 4: Hour flight from the East Coast to London. And so
Speaker 4: this is gonna be twice that. Yeah, double that. This
Speaker 4: is gonna be twice that in terms of the flight
Speaker 4: because they'd be coming obviously from southern California.
Speaker 3: Man, what a headache this entire situation is.
Speaker 2: To your point, We talked to plenty of players down
Speaker 2: at fort nin s training camp and it definitely seems
Speaker 2: like there is a bit of frustration, not only the
Speaker 2: fact that they do have to travel and set aside
Speaker 2: a week of their life to go down to Australia,
Speaker 2: but the fact that they're getting a second home game
Speaker 2: stolen away from them down at so far down at
Speaker 2: Levi South, Like Kyle Shanahan has been very vocal about
Speaker 2: how he's not happy that his buddy Sean McVay asked
Speaker 2: the league to pick the forty nine ers so that
Speaker 2: they did not have to play the Niners down and the.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, no doubt.
Speaker 4: And it seems as if I know the Niners and
Speaker 4: look they've I think they've put it behind him to
Speaker 4: the point where look, if they get asked about it
Speaker 4: in the media setting or whatever, they're gonna be honest
Speaker 4: about it. I do think there's been and intent on, Hey,
Speaker 4: it is what it is from the focus of this
Speaker 4: training camp.
Speaker 3: We don't have to like it, but we're gonna deal
Speaker 3: with it.
Speaker 4: We're gonna go like I think that I get the
Speaker 4: sense there's definitely been that type of mentality now, as
Speaker 4: much as you still might grumble about it when you
Speaker 4: have to think about it or get asked about it.
Speaker 3: I think they're trying to make sure that the focus
Speaker 3: is forward.
Speaker 4: But it is interesting because, yeah, all of the elements
Speaker 4: in play here, the juxtaposition between the RAMS approach and
Speaker 4: the forty nine ers approach, the component of the RAMS
Speaker 4: requesting the forty nine ers and being granted the request,
Speaker 4: the RAMS doing the Seal six component of flying in
Speaker 4: and flying out, which is interesting because to me, that
Speaker 4: is more deemed toward the recovery off of the game
Speaker 4: as much as much as it is the lead up
Speaker 4: to the game, right, like making sure you're making sure
Speaker 4: that you're not spending so much time there that you're
Speaker 4: messed up for the next game. But they got the
Speaker 4: extra day the RAMS next game is Monday night, so
Speaker 4: they got the extra day, and I know the Niners
Speaker 4: were upset. They wanted they wanted the Monday night I
Speaker 4: think for being the the second week, for the inconvenience
Speaker 4: of being, you know, the request granted by the Rams
Speaker 4: and wanting to take them over there. Now the Niners
Speaker 4: got the three straight home games. I think the Niners
Speaker 4: wanted two home games and a one road game to
Speaker 4: save a home game for later and anyway, it is.
Speaker 3: What it is at this point.
Speaker 4: But I think I think the Rams are almost Hey,
Speaker 4: we're gonna go sealed team six, and whatever happens happens,
Speaker 4: and maybe maybe it maybe it works, maybe it fails,
Speaker 4: but we're going to be more easily adjusted to the
Speaker 4: rest of the season. Think of the Niners in their
Speaker 4: time where they've gone and done the trips to the
Speaker 4: East Coast and they've stayed over, which they've done a
Speaker 4: couple of different times in the in the Shannon era.
Speaker 4: They've played very well in those instances where they've had
Speaker 4: the back to back games, but if you remember, they've
Speaker 4: struggled coming back home in the home game after to
Speaker 4: either a sleepy effort or a game that they've actually lost.
Speaker 4: So I think maybe the Niners could be better equipped
Speaker 4: for the game, but then maybe less equipped for the
Speaker 4: return for that.
Speaker 2: Week two matchup at home because there's the Miami Dolphins adjustments. Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: because then your body has to readjust going back to
Speaker 2: the States, like you adjusted. You spent nine days trying
Speaker 2: to get acclimated to Australia. Now you've got to come
Speaker 2: back home to Santa Clara and play a game the
Speaker 2: next Sunday.
Speaker 4: And to that point, I think that's where the league
Speaker 4: did and look at you never as a competitor think
Speaker 4: of it this way, I understand it, but I think
Speaker 4: that's where the League did do them a favor in
Speaker 4: a sense because they are playing Miami in Arizona those
Speaker 4: first two home games, and so those are games where
Speaker 4: maybe you don't have to quite be at your best
Speaker 4: at the level that you might be if you were
Speaker 4: playing say Philadelphia and Denver right.
Speaker 3: Out of the shoot. Yeah, in those games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe that's a bit of us I'll scratch
Speaker 2: your back, you'll scratch my back, But still my back
Speaker 2: is itching thinking about and the fact that the forty
Speaker 2: nine ers essentially gave up an extra home game. But
Speaker 2: I feel like there's still going to be a home
Speaker 2: field advantage. Not sure about RAMS nation down in Australia,
Speaker 2: but we've seen the forty nine or faithful travel all
Speaker 2: over the country and internationally travel as well.
Speaker 3: I would still assume JD.
Speaker 2: Just my guess that if we do want to go
Speaker 2: to like what is it the pick picks website where
Speaker 2: they track who which fans are buying tickets, I would
Speaker 2: I would assume it's still gonna be a sea of
Speaker 2: red down in Australia.
Speaker 3: I would think, Yeah.
Speaker 4: I would think that there's a lot more Niner fans
Speaker 4: just globally obviously than than RAMS fans at this point.
Speaker 3: So I'm with you.
Speaker 4: I think it will it won't be so Fi and
Speaker 4: the takeover and Levi South, although maybe it's Levi's down Under.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when it's all said and I like that, I
Speaker 3: like that idea.
Speaker 2: And we'll see how the Sealed Teams six aka the
Speaker 2: Rams show up, maybe with reinforcement. After we got the
Speaker 2: news yesterday that Aaron Donald had a tryout with the
Speaker 2: La Rams, Sealed Team ninety nine might be showing up
Speaker 2: week one.
Speaker 3: I think it's all but done, JD.
Speaker 2: I know they're going through the process with the tryout
Speaker 2: and possibly the paperwork real quick. Last take Aaron Donald
Speaker 2: Week one lining up the Miles Garrett. Can we put
Speaker 2: it in ink right now?
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get the sharpie out of my bag here
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna write it in sharpie. Here comes Donald,
Speaker 4: Here comes Miles Garrett, Here come the Rams, Trent Williams
Speaker 4: and the entire offensive line. Pack your lunch. It should
Speaker 4: be one hell of a Week one matchup. Five weeks
Speaker 4: away from today tonight is the NFL Hall of Fame Game.
Speaker 4: Shout out to Roger Craig going to the Hall of
Speaker 4: Fame this weekend. Forty nine ers will be in action
Speaker 4: at Levi's next Thursday against Mike Hohler's ten is Titans,
Speaker 4: and that means football is back.
Speaker 3: But we'll be back after this break.
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Speaker 2: JD your thoughts on Buster Posey Earlier this morning. We
Speaker 2: talked about a lot, including the Wall of Fame ceremony
Speaker 2: this morning, including himself, but also dove pretty deep into
Speaker 2: the trade deadline and the future of the Giants. What
Speaker 2: was your biggest takeaway today with our conversation with Buser posing.
Speaker 4: Well, it was just how forthcoming he was. I think,
Speaker 4: not only about what the future holds, or they hope
Speaker 4: that the future holds in the Giant's front office, with
Speaker 4: a lot of those prospects that they've been able to
Speaker 4: acquire at the deadline and draft and that are already
Speaker 4: running through the system that we talk about Bryce Eldridge
Speaker 4: at the major league level headlining all of it at
Speaker 4: this stage, but it was the acknowledgment of just why
Speaker 4: they made certain trades, who they're excited about moving forward.
Speaker 3: But I also think more importantly.
Speaker 4: He's been pretty bluntly accountable for this season being a
Speaker 4: failure and not being what it was intended to be
Speaker 4: in terms of better than let's say the last four years,
Speaker 4: because I think coming into the year they wholeheartedly believed
Speaker 4: that that that was going to be the case. So
Speaker 4: I think that's the one thing we can debate. Good move,
Speaker 4: bad move, manager you hired. All these different things are
Speaker 4: debatable within the context of things that are always debatable.
Speaker 3: What is the future hold? Should they be more all
Speaker 3: in on a rebuild?
Speaker 4: Like we can debate all of it, But the one
Speaker 4: thing that you can't really debate with Buster Posey from
Speaker 4: the baseball standpoint is the accountability for things that haven't
Speaker 4: worked and the willingness to be very direct in looking
Speaker 4: to pivot off of things that aren't working.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that was probably my biggest takeaway too, was
Speaker 2: it almost felt like there's been a reassessment from Buster
Speaker 2: Posey and the entire organization about where they truly are
Speaker 2: because he talked about what he expected when he took
Speaker 2: over this job nearly two years ago today or not today,
Speaker 2: but you get what I'm saying, yep, talking about the
Speaker 2: thought process of them being closer to competing than what
Speaker 2: they might actually are, and he acknowledged that that the
Speaker 2: record has not lived up to the standard that he
Speaker 2: thought he was setting when he first took this job,
Speaker 2: which has led to two consecutive trade deadlines selling pieces
Speaker 2: from the major league roster. Not only selling pieces, selling
Speaker 2: former teammates like last year he traded away guys like
Speaker 2: Yeahz and Camillo Devall and Tyler Rodgers, like guys that
Speaker 2: he caught and guys that he played with. Now he's
Speaker 2: making these difficult decisions, moving on from fam favorites this year,
Speaker 2: like Elliott Ramos, who was your first homegrown All Star
Speaker 2: since the days of Chili Davis, moving on from Luisa Rice,
Speaker 2: who was an All Star this year but was on
Speaker 2: an expiring contract just like Robbie Ray. But it feels
Speaker 2: like he's kind of changed his tune or changed his
Speaker 2: direction or circling back to what I said, just maybe
Speaker 2: a reassessment that maybe they're not as close as they
Speaker 2: thought they were, which meant they had to sell some
Speaker 2: pieces and try to maybe bring back some other pieces
Speaker 2: that can be used towards the future instead of going
Speaker 2: all in to win right now. With some of these
Speaker 2: veteran signings that we saw these pasts of all seasons, it.
Speaker 4: Does beg the question should they have maybe gone farther
Speaker 4: in terms of what they look to do, because I
Speaker 4: do get the sense that there is a little bit
Speaker 4: of trying to have your cake and eating it too.
Speaker 4: But I understand that even from a marketing standpoint, you
Speaker 4: can also say, hey, you think that you've done enough
Speaker 4: in terms of building for the future to this point
Speaker 4: where you may maybe they've maybe they think they don't
Speaker 4: need to do more, Like maybe they think they've they've
Speaker 4: got it stockpiled enough to where the benefit of maybe
Speaker 4: a Logan web or a Jung Hulee continuing to be
Speaker 4: around is beneficial. We've all debated the reasons why and not.
Speaker 4: We don't necessarily have to do that again right now.
Speaker 4: But I just I think once you come to grips
Speaker 4: with the non baseball components of accepting where you truly are,
Speaker 4: I think it makes it easier to come to grips
Speaker 4: with the baseball components of maybe what needs to be
Speaker 4: done at that point. And so it all leads to
Speaker 4: being fascinated by where they go from here, and I
Speaker 4: think that's the pivot point. We all know where this
Speaker 4: season is. We'll see where it ends up. There's a
Speaker 4: lot of unknown about next year and what it will
Speaker 4: be across Major League baseball. But how will that impact
Speaker 4: whether the Giants look to try to add on the
Speaker 4: margins to get better and contend for a wild card
Speaker 4: versus trying to maybe lean in more to the younger
Speaker 4: players and having next year have a little bit more
Speaker 4: of a developmental type.
Speaker 3: Feel well, and I think I don't.
Speaker 4: I'm paraphrasing, but he buster said, and maybe we have
Speaker 4: the cut, you know, giving the fans a team they
Speaker 4: can be excited about or like that is stopping short
Speaker 4: of we think we can be the third wildcard and
Speaker 4: maybe it's too early for that. But I feel even
Speaker 4: in him acknowledging that is acknowledging without saying the R word, acknowledging, Hey,
Speaker 4: next year needs to be a better for It can't
Speaker 4: be this again in terms of wins and losses, but
Speaker 4: maybe it's somewhere in between. What this has become an actual,
Speaker 4: actual contending team for even a wild card sp.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's why I think. Circling back to his
Speaker 2: comments from right after the trade deadline when he was
Speaker 2: asked about not trading Logan Web and whether or not
Speaker 2: he thinks this is a team that can compete in
Speaker 2: the next couple of years, and his answer is obviously yes,
Speaker 2: he's not gonna say no. But if he truly believes
Speaker 2: that Logan Web and Rafael Devers and some of these
Speaker 2: players are still in their prime right now, then moving forward,
Speaker 2: if they do play above expectations next year or in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight, then we're talking about a completely different
Speaker 2: situation where there's more ammunition in the farm system, even
Speaker 2: for prospects that can potentially make an impact on.
Speaker 3: The big league roster. But then we're talking about.
Speaker 2: The fact that you can maybe use some of these
Speaker 2: prospects as trade pieces so that you can go out
Speaker 2: in trade for maybe one of the big superstars on
Speaker 2: the market, like if Scooble's available, or are Pall Skiings. Again,
Speaker 2: these are all pipe dreams that I'm throwing out. But
Speaker 2: the problem was these last couple of years with a
Speaker 2: weak farm system, it also made it harder and handicapped
Speaker 2: you to a certain extent to go out and make
Speaker 2: a big trade package because you didn't have the correct
Speaker 2: pieces to move.
Speaker 3: If that's also a route.
Speaker 2: You want to go down to if they do over
Speaker 2: exceed expectations and get back to looking like a winning
Speaker 2: ball club. You said the word expectations that it feels
Speaker 2: like the expectations have shifted, maybe not only for this year,
Speaker 2: because this year is what this year is. You can't
Speaker 2: really change you can't really change them to what you
Speaker 2: originally thought they were going to be now.
Speaker 3: But I feel it felt a little to me like the.
Speaker 4: Expectations for next year are starting to be tamped down.
Speaker 4: And again, it doesn't mean you can't be competitive, but
Speaker 4: it means that it's going to be maybe more of
Speaker 4: a surprise or if things fall into place, as opposed
Speaker 4: to something that's going to be chased, Like they're not
Speaker 4: gonna chase a third wild card. It feels like they
Speaker 4: if they're good enough with what they have, they'd be
Speaker 4: willing to maybe add to it, certainly depending upon what
Speaker 4: type of season we have, sixty games and eighty games,
Speaker 4: one hundred games, all of that. But it just feels
Speaker 4: like it's almost the guys that they have within the
Speaker 4: organization are gonna have to prove that it's worth really
Speaker 4: chasing it as opposed to maybe chasing it in the offseason. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they have to prove that they can compete during the
Speaker 4: regular season, and I think that's what the remainder about.
Speaker 2: This season is all about. Which guys are gonna help
Speaker 2: you be competitive next year? Which guys are going to
Speaker 2: continue to compete this season Despite what the record says.
Speaker 2: There's opportunity we're seeing in this past series down in
Speaker 2: Texas with guys like Blade Tidwell and Carson Wi wasn't
Speaker 2: in the rotation. Basabe has taken advantage of playing time
Speaker 2: right now. Grant McCray and Drew Gilbert part of that
Speaker 2: ninth thenn't come back the other night before the Jung
Speaker 2: Huli air. But my point is the these guys right
Speaker 2: now need to show something not only to the front office,
Speaker 2: but to their manager, their skipper, Tony Vitello. He's a
Speaker 2: guy that needs to continue to compete day in and
Speaker 2: day out for his future if he does want to
Speaker 2: be the skipper that can get this Giants back team
Speaker 2: to just being relevant and back in the playoff conversation.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and so a lot of that.
Speaker 4: You know, I think it's not going to be tangible success,
Speaker 4: as we've said.
Speaker 3: That Tony will be judged on.
Speaker 4: It's going to be more more the optics and how
Speaker 4: things look and how things.
Speaker 3: Feel and do things get weird.
Speaker 4: As it relates to some of the articles that have
Speaker 4: a tendency to come out when teams are not playing
Speaker 4: good baseball at the end of the year, right where
Speaker 4: everything has a news cycle in a season, it's it's
Speaker 4: what do you think you can be?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you're so disappointing.
Speaker 4: Bryce Eldrig is up, Oh my god, you're still disappointing.
Speaker 4: You know, willing to trade everybody on June fifteenth, still disappointing,
Speaker 4: Going to have to sell trade deadline draft obviously took
Speaker 4: a lot of the the headlines, and that was something
Speaker 4: that could be more positively discussed because it's a lot
Speaker 4: easier to sell the hope of what could be before
Speaker 4: you actually see it at the big league level and
Speaker 4: you start to learn what it actually is. That being said, obviously,
Speaker 4: the reality is the Giants have a lot of young
Speaker 4: players that project to be very good, and now it
Speaker 4: sort of shifts to the dog days and how is
Speaker 4: the clubhouse sort of dealing with what this season has
Speaker 4: become based on the expectation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question, a lot of moving pieces within the
Speaker 2: Giants organization, just like there's a lot of moving pieces
Speaker 2: here within our own organization at cambr JD and myself
Speaker 2: will go of our final thoughts on the last couple
Speaker 2: of days here at Cambre talking about Greg Silver and
Speaker 2: Greg Papa. Next on the Sports Leader.
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Speaker 2: All right, last couple things here on the Murph and
Speaker 2: Marcus Show this morning, with John Dickinson filling in before
Speaker 2: we hand over the keys to the car to Larry Krueger.
Speaker 3: Come up. At ten am.
Speaker 2: It is time for today's Stanford Healthcare Health Report, sponsored
Speaker 2: by Stanford Healthcare, and let's go down to Levi Stadium
Speaker 2: where yesterday at forty nine ers practice, eighteen total players
Speaker 2: sat out practice. That's twenty percent of their current ninety
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Speaker 2: and Dre Greenlaw all set out because of general soreness
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Speaker 2: on all things forty nine ers down at training camp,
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Speaker 2: Stanford Healthcare and a lot of things to report on
Speaker 2: these days. We talked about it earlier this morning from
Speaker 2: six am to six in case anybody missed it, addressing
Speaker 2: the story yesterday surrounding Greg Silver and Greg Papa. And
Speaker 2: I know, even after Copes and Derek did a great
Speaker 2: job breaking down the story yesterday from two to six
Speaker 2: on Dirty Work, there are still a lot of questions
Speaker 2: from our audience, from our kamb Our family, and I'll
Speaker 2: say this, I have a lot of questions as well,
Speaker 2: But one thing I will never question is our friendship
Speaker 2: and our relationship with both of those guys, Greg Papa
Speaker 2: and Greg Silver, two of the best coworkers, two of
Speaker 2: the best friends, two of the best people you can
Speaker 2: ask to surround yourself in lives, Myself, JD, Curly Walter,
Speaker 2: especially Behind the Glass have all had the opportunity to
Speaker 2: work with these two studs, absolute studs. Greg Silver is
Speaker 2: a future star, Greg Papa, his resume speaks for himself,
Speaker 2: a local legend that has dominated the airwaves and is
Speaker 2: a big reason why I am currently on the microphone
Speaker 2: right now. So we want to send our love to
Speaker 2: Greg Silver and Greg Papa and just let him know,
Speaker 2: we're thinking about you boys, JD.
Speaker 4: Yeah, as we talked about difficult day unfortunately in a
Speaker 4: long list of difficult days at times in this business.
Speaker 4: And it's just two guys that I absolutely love and adore.
Speaker 4: And I've known Papa for a couple of decades now
Speaker 4: at this point. And you know, Greg Silver was the
Speaker 4: first guy I was teamed with in coming in here
Speaker 4: at cambr and loved working with him, not only on
Speaker 4: the Dubzot shows which he helped launch, which has been
Speaker 4: tremendously successful here for the station, but then I've also
Speaker 4: had a great opportunity to be able to work with
Speaker 4: him a lot as he made his transition toward the
Speaker 4: midday spot and working with Greg Papa, So yeah, I
Speaker 4: love both of those guys, appreciate both of them. Papa's
Speaker 4: been a mentor and it is sort of the circle
Speaker 4: of life in this industry. Papa was very much a
Speaker 4: mentor and somebody I would try to emulate in different
Speaker 4: ways in terms of show hosting.
Speaker 3: And then you.
Speaker 4: Pass it along, right, I'm kind of in I'm in
Speaker 4: that in between you know, Papa and Silver in terms
Speaker 4: of an and you pass it along to the to
Speaker 4: the younger generation and having an opportunity to work with
Speaker 4: somebody like Silver. So uh, you know, both of those
Speaker 4: guys immensely talented, and you know, Silver in particular, just
Speaker 4: wise beyond his years. Greg's actually got the real life
Speaker 4: experience and Silver and both of them the hardest workers
Speaker 4: you've ever seen in their own right. The preparation that
Speaker 4: Papa would go through on a day and day out basis,
Speaker 4: and the job that you would see Greg Silver do,
Speaker 4: getting thrust into a bunch of different roles and just
Speaker 4: accepting it and accepting it with a level of positivity
Speaker 4: that it just boils me away. The positivity is somebody
Speaker 4: that at times can skew a little negative for somebody
Speaker 4: so young to have that level of positivity despite constant
Speaker 4: change of just everything that goes on. So love them
Speaker 4: both and like I said, just a pleasure to.
Speaker 2: Work with both of them, but more importantly call them
Speaker 2: friend well said JD. And nobody got to see the
Speaker 2: behind the scenes work more than Walter Kabbo said to who,
Speaker 2: of course was the former producer for the Silver and
Speaker 2: Papa Show. Walter, I'll let you wrap it open your thoughts, man, Yeah,
Speaker 2: one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: You know, love working with those guys.
Speaker 5: Papa, me and him, go back to uh started working
Speaker 5: with him first time twenty twenty one. Man, So it's
Speaker 5: a it's been a while with Pop and then with Silver,
Speaker 5: going back to twenty twenty four working on that show
Speaker 5: with them, just seeing the dedication, the hard work put
Speaker 5: out from both of them. But UH, you know it,
Speaker 5: I'm proud to have said that I work with them
Speaker 5: and proud to call them family, proud to call them,
Speaker 5: call them my friend, and uh and I love those.
Speaker 2: Guys, those guys one hundred percent, nicely, said Walter. I
Speaker 2: could not have said it better myself. And I just
Speaker 2: want to say this to our can be our audience.
Speaker 2: We see your text messages on the Golden State Lumber
Speaker 2: and Showroom text line. I know people are upset. These
Speaker 2: are our friends, These are all members of our family,
Speaker 2: and you're a member of our family as well. I
Speaker 2: know that we are part of your daily routines and
Speaker 2: things are going to be a little bit different around here.
Speaker 2: But thank you guys for listening, thank you guys for
Speaker 2: tuning in, and thank you guys for all the support
Speaker 2: not only for us, but for Greg Papa and for
Speaker 2: Greg Silver I'll say this, Greg Silver, your future is bright, kid.
Speaker 2: You're going to be a star. This is only a
Speaker 2: speed bump into Greg Papa, my man.
Speaker 3: I love you.
Speaker 2: Keep fighting the fight blank cancer, keep getting after it.
Speaker 2: You're more of an inspiration now than you ever were
Speaker 2: on the microphone, and that says a lot. Papa, you're
Speaker 2: one of the kind, You're one of the best to
Speaker 2: ever do it. And we'll leave it at that. Love you, Greg, Papa,
Speaker 2: Love you Greg Silver, Love you mofos, Love you boys.
Speaker 2: And we'll hand the keys over to Larry Krueger because
Speaker 2: you are listening to cambr Am and canbyr FM, San Francisco,
Speaker 2: the sports leader, a Cumulus Media station.
Speaker 3: That's the end of the game.