WEBVTT - Is Daniel Lurie lying about ending harm reduction in San Francisco?

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<v Speaker 1>Susan Dya Reynolds. Welcome back to The John Phillips Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey Randy, how are you doing great?

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<v Speaker 1>So recently Daniel Lurie had his big State of the

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<v Speaker 1>City address. He's celebrating one year as mayor of San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the accomplishments that he touted during the

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<v Speaker 1>State of the City address is, and to quote from

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<v Speaker 1>your article, we stopped freely handing out drug supplies and

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<v Speaker 1>letting people kill themselves on our streets. You disagree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't just disagree with that. There's evidence everywhere that

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<v Speaker 2>that's a complete lie. Hence my title Lurie's Big Lie,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, as much as I would love to

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<v Speaker 2>see him succeed, he has to tell the truth. And

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<v Speaker 2>the more he lies about things that are clear to

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<v Speaker 2>the eye and that are videotaped every day by community

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<v Speaker 2>advocates like JJ Smith. And if you don't follow him,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody should, you know that there's just no way that

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<v Speaker 2>he can stand there with a straight face and say it,

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<v Speaker 2>and yet he does so.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us about some of the nonprofits that are still

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<v Speaker 1>participating in harm reduction, handing out drug paraphernalia funded by

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<v Speaker 1>the City and County of San Francisco, even though Daniel

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<v Speaker 1>Lurry says we're not doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, the biggest one is the Ffaid's Foundation,

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<v Speaker 2>which was started back in the day for a great cause.

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<v Speaker 2>I have friends who died of AIDS, and I have

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<v Speaker 2>friends that were saved because they were into drugs and

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<v Speaker 2>they got safe needles, you know, and didn't share needles.

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<v Speaker 2>But right now they're handing out needles to drug add

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<v Speaker 2>it and not just needles but smoking supplies for fentanyl,

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<v Speaker 2>so pipes foil, and they don't just hand they they

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<v Speaker 2>don't just give you one. Right. The very idea of

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<v Speaker 2>a needle exchange started out being you bring us your needle,

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<v Speaker 2>will give you another needle. Or bring us three needles,

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<v Speaker 2>will give you three needles. Now they're going into the ocean.

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<v Speaker 2>They're all over the streets as you know. And JJ

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<v Speaker 2>does these undercover videos all the time where he will

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<v Speaker 2>go to ffaids, which despite Danie Lurie saying in April

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<v Speaker 2>that the new regulations were they couldn't hand them out outside,

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<v Speaker 2>they had to do it inside. They had to have

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<v Speaker 2>counselors available, people from public health to offer treatment options.

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<v Speaker 2>None of that is happening. And JJ has seen a seven.

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<v Speaker 2>He has video of a seventeen year old getting harm

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<v Speaker 2>reduction supplies. He goes undercover, they fill his bag. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you need and he says, ohbrillo, I need a

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<v Speaker 2>you know of pipes, so I need a bubble, I

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<v Speaker 2>need here you go, here you go, here you go.

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<v Speaker 2>No counseling offered. So they're the big dogs. That's who

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<v Speaker 2>our public health department in San Francisco. The behavioral part

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<v Speaker 2>which is run by Hillary Coonan's who's a one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>percent harm reduction fanatics. She's not an advocate, she's a

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<v Speaker 2>fanatic and needs to be fired. I'll just say it out.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually just won a journalism award for coverage of

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<v Speaker 2>a secret recording I got of the San Francisco to

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<v Speaker 2>part of public health with all the harm reduction groups

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<v Speaker 2>talking about how it was other people's problem that they

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<v Speaker 2>had a problem with seeing drugs being used on the street.

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<v Speaker 2>They won hundred percent support people doing drugs on the street,

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<v Speaker 2>and that means they percent support overdoses, because there's no

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<v Speaker 2>way anyone can keep up with two people a day overdosing.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, JJ, who's out on the street

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<v Speaker 2>every day, he you know, he videotapes them putting bodies

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<v Speaker 2>in the medical examiner van and they open it up

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<v Speaker 2>at seven in the morning and there's already three other

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<v Speaker 2>bodies in there. So I think it's probably more than

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<v Speaker 2>two a day.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just insanity that we're allowing this, and we're paying

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<v Speaker 1>for this, And it seems like Laurie is giving lip

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<v Speaker 1>service to the common sense people out there that realize

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<v Speaker 1>this is nonsense. But apparently he's not able to detach

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<v Speaker 1>the city from all of the people inside public health

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<v Speaker 1>that are obsessed with this ideology.

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<v Speaker 2>Well there's that, and then there's also the fact, and

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<v Speaker 2>I warned people this when he ran that he was

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<v Speaker 2>handed on a silver platter by his mother, Mimi Haff,

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<v Speaker 2>who married into the Levi Strauss fortune. He was handed

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<v Speaker 2>on a silver platter Tipping Point, which was his nonprofit,

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<v Speaker 2>and at one point they put one hundred million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>out and said, we're going to solve fifty percent of

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<v Speaker 2>homelessness in five years. Well, homelessness went up by thirty percent.

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<v Speaker 2>What was he doing the same things that the city did.

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<v Speaker 2>He supported and still Tipping Points still supports the same

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<v Speaker 2>ones of these, the same harm reduction nonprofits. His crowding

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<v Speaker 2>achievement on Bryant Street that he bragged about, I did

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<v Speaker 2>affordable housing on Bryant Street. You know eight fifty five

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<v Speaker 2>Bryant Street is run by Episcopal Community Services, as they

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<v Speaker 2>do client services there who have the highest overdose rate

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<v Speaker 2>in San Francisco over the past five years. We actually

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<v Speaker 2>took the numbers and we broke them down and wrote

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<v Speaker 2>a story called Housing First More Second, and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>series that we're working on their deep and investigative dives,

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<v Speaker 2>and thirty percent of the overdoses are happening inside these

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<v Speaker 2>supportive housing buildings, one of which you know Lurie himself,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, set up with Charles Schwapp Foundation, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the worst ones by the way. It's run

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<v Speaker 2>over by rats. There's dog fighting, there's breeding of dogs,

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<v Speaker 2>which you know, I have a very big issue with.

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<v Speaker 2>A social worker was stabbed. There's another one was shot.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is not you know, the way harm

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<v Speaker 2>reduction and housing first is not the answer, but that's

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<v Speaker 2>what comes from he has a nonprofit background. So the

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<v Speaker 2>one I wrote ab up in this particular article harm

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<v Speaker 2>reduction Therapy Center. They have vans and the city gives

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<v Speaker 2>them a sanctioned parking space where they pull up in

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<v Speaker 2>a van and they dole out harm reduction supplies and

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<v Speaker 2>massages for the drug tourists. So by school, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>not by school, by a park where there are children

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<v Speaker 2>playing in the park, they have a massage table set up,

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<v Speaker 2>a sitting massage table where they're getting massages on sides

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<v Speaker 2>of the I can't make this stuff up. They're getting

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<v Speaker 2>about six million dollars from the city. Seventy five percent

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<v Speaker 2>of that goes to salaries, only twelve percent, less than

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<v Speaker 2>twelve percent goes to services. About five hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars of six million goes to services. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>assuming the services are driving the van around and giving massages.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I wonder what the line item on their budget

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<v Speaker 1>says how much they are charging the city for each

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<v Speaker 1>one of those massages.

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<v Speaker 2>What's really funny that you say that, because these nonprofits

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<v Speaker 2>are masters of the empty nine to ninety. They are

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely masters at it. They don't tell you anything, They

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<v Speaker 2>just give you the numbers, and they get as little

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<v Speaker 2>information as possible. I mean, I'm not an accountant, but

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<v Speaker 2>I go through them quite often and very rarely do

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<v Speaker 2>you see line items. And their mission statements are always

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<v Speaker 2>something like to help with the suffering of drug addicts

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<v Speaker 2>or they don't even call them addicts drug users, and

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<v Speaker 2>to not stigmatize them and to show them that they

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<v Speaker 2>are people too, something like that. Those are their mission

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<v Speaker 2>statements six thousand, you know, six million dollars to thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's quite lightly insane. We're speaking with Susan Dya Reynolds,

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<v Speaker 1>the Voice of San Francisco. You've got to check out

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<v Speaker 1>her latest article, Lurie's Big Lie, on the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>harm reduction is still alive and well in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 1>And it just drives me crazy to know that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco is in a massive budget deficit. How are

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<v Speaker 1>these programs not the first ones on the chopping block?

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<v Speaker 1>Who is stilst defending this? There is no track record

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<v Speaker 1>of any success with these programs.

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<v Speaker 2>There isn't any at all. And you know, and especially

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<v Speaker 2>a group like HRTC, which I really started to dig

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<v Speaker 2>into because it was one I was not familiar with

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<v Speaker 2>until JJ took video of drug tourist getting massages and

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<v Speaker 2>another guy sitting down shooting up next to our a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of kids were playing and they they say on

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<v Speaker 2>their website that they have created a therapeutic mew that

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<v Speaker 2>attracts one hundreds of people literally with the number one

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds of people to seek therapy and other services, and

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<v Speaker 2>their mission statement is straight schlock out of the nineteen seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>HRTC exis to transform substance user treatment by providing low barrier,

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<v Speaker 2>person centered, integrated mental health care, as well as clinical

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<v Speaker 2>harm reduction training to people and organizations impacted by the

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<v Speaker 2>War on drugs? What come on? Now, you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's va whole thing. And then you know

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<v Speaker 2>they also were there was an audit of the San

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<v Speaker 2>Francisco Street Teams and they got called out for performing

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<v Speaker 2>work for the City of San Francisco's Department of Public

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<v Speaker 2>Health without a signed, executed contact contract for over eighteen months.

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<v Speaker 2>And they were there at the Resource Center attending weekly meetings,

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<v Speaker 2>leading trainings, mental health counseling, substance use for outpatients. Are

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<v Speaker 2>you serious? I mean there's not a doctor amongst them, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>what is this?

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<v Speaker 1>We're speaking with Susan Dyer Reynolds. You've got to check

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<v Speaker 1>out the voicesf dot org and make sure you follow

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<v Speaker 1>her on Twitter at Susan d Reynolds. Now, another thing

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<v Speaker 1>that Daniel Lurry made a big promise when he became

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<v Speaker 1>mayor was he was going to dismantle the open air

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<v Speaker 1>drug markets that plague the tenderloin and SOMA and now

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<v Speaker 1>the mission. We've seen some big raids, we've seen a

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<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of arrests, but the open air drug markets persist.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going wrong here?

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<v Speaker 2>I bring it back to the harm reduction stuff. I

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<v Speaker 2>always say every time he stands up there and talks tough,

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<v Speaker 2>how he's not going to allow people to sell drugs

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<v Speaker 2>on the street and use drugs on the street. Everybody says,

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<v Speaker 2>get rid of the drug dealers. Well, of course, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's easier said than done, because you know, in that

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<v Speaker 2>case you have to deal with not just local authorities

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<v Speaker 2>but California law. And everybody's sawt on crime California, as

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<v Speaker 2>you know that the justice system here is an injustice system.

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<v Speaker 2>So my you know theory. When I go to other

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<v Speaker 2>counties and watch how they deal with things, I note

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<v Speaker 2>that they don't have harm reduction vans driving around handing

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<v Speaker 2>out bags full of needles and smoking supplies. So my

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<v Speaker 2>number one suggestion to Daniel Lurie is that he stops

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<v Speaker 2>handing out smoking supplies altogether. There's no no, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't buy the harm rediction theory that they might prevent

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<v Speaker 2>a colds or whatever. No, you don't need to hand

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<v Speaker 2>out smoking supplies. No other civilized cities do. And then

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<v Speaker 2>just makes them come inside to get which is what

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<v Speaker 2>he promised in April. Inside only you come to us.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't come to you. You come to us. You

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<v Speaker 2>hand us your needles, will give you needles, and also

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<v Speaker 2>counseling and someone to tell you where you can find treatment.

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<v Speaker 2>And now he wants to do this. You know, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to send them home. We're going to fly them

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<v Speaker 2>home and give them some money to get set up

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<v Speaker 2>in their own town. Stop treating them like they're the victims.

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<v Speaker 2>They're victimizing San Francisco. These are not These are drug

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<v Speaker 2>tourists who also commit crimes to keep their habits going.

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<v Speaker 2>So the way other cities do it is they're not

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<v Speaker 2>nice about it. They just they throw them in jail,

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<v Speaker 2>they check their warrants, They make it uncomfortable and until

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<v Speaker 2>Danie Lurie, you know, it takes some lessons from Matt

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<v Speaker 2>mahon and Sama's and actually does what he says he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to do, it's not gonna nothing's changing as long

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<v Speaker 2>as you go to them and hand them drug supplies.

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<v Speaker 2>Drugs are plentiful. You know, we know that the dealers

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<v Speaker 2>are a problem, but getting rid of them it has

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<v Speaker 2>to be federal because locally they go into diversion. That's

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<v Speaker 2>my article coming out this week, I believe Tuesday is

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<v Speaker 2>how many of the drug dealers go through mental health diversion,

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<v Speaker 2>So there really isn't any any action on that end locally.

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<v Speaker 2>It has to be federally, and we don't have enough

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<v Speaker 2>federal you know, the lawyers to deal with all of them.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no deportation happening because Daniel Loury doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>hear that word, because you know, sanctuary city, sanctuary city again,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just common sense. Tell me if I'm wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think sanctuary city shouldn't count for people that

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<v Speaker 2>are violent criminals, sells, drug dealers. Seems to me they

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be protected, and yet they are so until some

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<v Speaker 2>of those things change, and I don't see that happening.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, all I can say is he's one

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<v Speaker 2>really good candidate and three more State of the City

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<v Speaker 2>addresses away from losing his job if he doesn't do

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<v Speaker 2>something serious.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and to that point, on the drug dealers, especially

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that are in the country illegally, most of

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<v Speaker 1>them from Honduras, I think you remember a few years

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<v Speaker 1>ago when Supervisor Matt Dorsey wanted to change the sanctuary

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<v Speaker 1>policy in San Francisco to just make it that if

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<v Speaker 1>you're selling fentanel, we will hand you over to Ice

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<v Speaker 1>and he got shouted down as a racist for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so did I. And it's ironic because several years

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<v Speaker 2>ago I wrote a story called the Mansions that Sentinel built,

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<v Speaker 2>and I took it from a federal case, and there

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<v Speaker 2>were pictures of the mansion in the transcripts, and I

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<v Speaker 2>read the whole transcript. I did the story about this

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<v Speaker 2>family that was caught on audio with a tapped, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a line. And also the son was going back and

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<v Speaker 2>forth to Honduras building a mansion, and the mother was

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<v Speaker 2>caught on the phone saying to his uncle, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's just he doesn't know he's going to put in

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<v Speaker 2>Marvel columns or if he wants a granite, And of

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<v Speaker 2>course somebody was called a racist. I think because of that,

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<v Speaker 2>the Chronicle decided they wanted to prove me wrong, and

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<v Speaker 2>they sent reporters down to Honduras and guess what they found, mansions.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it was absolutely true what I wrote five

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<v Speaker 2>years ago or so. They go back and forth, no fear.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe a little more now, but in those days there

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<v Speaker 2>was Biden's time, they had no fear. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're by far the biggest the drug dealers on the

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<v Speaker 2>street in the tender wine particularly by far the majority

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<v Speaker 2>of them are from Honduras. But they have no fear

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<v Speaker 2>because they go in. They you know, the judge says, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we release you on your own recognizance, and then they

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<v Speaker 2>go out and they're back on the street selling in

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<v Speaker 2>an hour. And that still happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and I remember Brooke Jenkins complaining that they would

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<v Speaker 1>go in front of the judge and say I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>victim of human trafficking and the judgers say, oh, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, mental health diversion, there you go. But unfortunately Broke Jenkins,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, has the last say about this is what

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<v Speaker 2>you'll find out in my outcoming article. In California, there

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<v Speaker 2>the law states that the district attorney has the final

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<v Speaker 2>say on diversion. They're supposed to once a year look

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<v Speaker 2>at these programs and decide if they're working, and they

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<v Speaker 2>actually do have power there. So in my article I

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<v Speaker 2>suggest that perhaps these all of these programs need to

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<v Speaker 2>be looked at because you know, on another show we

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<v Speaker 2>can talk about what I found. But let's just say murder,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, attempted murderers, you know, are in diversion for

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<v Speaker 2>mental health. I mean of course, if you're an attempted murderer,

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<v Speaker 2>you probably have some mental health issues. But there's a

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<v Speaker 2>fine line between that and someone who probably deserves to

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<v Speaker 2>go to prison. The big difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, in the Sacramento Shire, Jim Cooper try to get

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<v Speaker 1>those laws changed last year and it got killed in

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<v Speaker 1>committee in the Assembly, where we are all in on diversion,

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<v Speaker 1>even when you think it's supposed to be for nonviolent crimes,

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<v Speaker 1>We're going all in on diversion for any self attested

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<v Speaker 1>mental illness, including ADHD for the most heinous of crimes.

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<v Speaker 1>And it makes no sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, in an opioid now they are you know, in

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco, if you say I have an opioid problem,

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<v Speaker 2>they send you to mental health diversion, and then there's

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<v Speaker 2>drug diversion that I'm looking at those deaths right now,

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<v Speaker 2>that's my next one. But I got to tell you

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<v Speaker 2>that the mental health diversion is out of control. The

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<v Speaker 2>selons that they allow. For example, in santave three selonies

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<v Speaker 2>were allowed into diversion, whereas in San Francisco it's over

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<v Speaker 2>a thousand, and you know, and first of all, I

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<v Speaker 2>think in many ways this stigmatizes people who actually are

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<v Speaker 2>mentally ill. You know, there's a big difference. Only about

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<v Speaker 2>three percent of people with mental illness who aren't impacted

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<v Speaker 2>by other things like drug addiction commit violent crimes. So basically,

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying there's a thousand people with mental illness and three,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a third of them or drug dealers. That

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<v Speaker 2>seems like a stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>Susan Dyer Reynolds. The website is the Voice SF dot org.

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<v Speaker 1>been getting a lot of attention lately, because there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people wondering if San Jose Mayor Matt Mayhan

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be running for governor. He made waves

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<v Speaker 1>himself saying that he's thinking about it because all of

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<v Speaker 1>the candidates on the Democrat side have yet to impress him.

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<v Speaker 1>Interestingly enough, over the weekend, Matt mahon invited Republican candidate

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<v Speaker 1>for governor Steve Hilton to see what he's doing when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to homelessness, to see if anybody running for

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<v Speaker 1>governor will pay attention to one of the few success

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<v Speaker 1>stories in California. And San Jose has its share of problems,

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<v Speaker 1>but Matt Mayhan seems to be doing a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>than a lot of other cities. Let's see what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on here. Here is NBC in.

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<v Speaker 3>The Bay We now to the race for governor in California.

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<v Speaker 3>Dealing with the on house appears to be a big

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<v Speaker 3>issue with the upcoming gubernatorial campaign. Many of the candidates

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<v Speaker 3>are coming to Santase to learn about how the city

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<v Speaker 3>is dealing with the issue. Today it was Republican hopeful

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<v Speaker 3>Steve Hilton, NBC Bay Area's Damnsure Heo is at a

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<v Speaker 3>tiny homes facility in Santase with more.

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<v Speaker 4>Mayor Matt Mayheon seems to be selling this tiny homes

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<v Speaker 4>idea to all of the gubernatorial candidates. Many are getting

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<v Speaker 4>a first hand look at this concept concept right here

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<v Speaker 4>in San Jose. Steve Hilton toured the facility on Guadalupe

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<v Speaker 4>Parkway with the mayor. The mayor used the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 4>discuss what he sees as major achievements and roadblocks at

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<v Speaker 4>the state level. This is known as an emergency housing

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<v Speaker 4>site with ninety six modular units. The facility also offers

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<v Speaker 4>case management and job training.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you don't hear that one that much job training,

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<v Speaker 1>making sure that the people that are in these places

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<v Speaker 1>are only there temporary, because we're going to find to

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<v Speaker 1>get you away where you can support yourself. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of other counties, especially Los Angeles, we want you to

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<v Speaker 1>be a ward of the state forever because that means

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<v Speaker 1>more money.

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<v Speaker 4>The idea is to get the unhoused in here and

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<v Speaker 4>get them back on their feet so they don't have

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<v Speaker 4>to live on the streets anymore. The city says there

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<v Speaker 4>is a high success rate in moving folks into permanent housing,

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<v Speaker 4>So the mayor is hoping that.

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<v Speaker 1>I still don't understand what that term means I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>technically it means subsidized housing. But how permanent is permanent?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? I want to hear more stories of people

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<v Speaker 1>like Tom Wolf, who's going to be on the show

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday, who you know, struggled with addiction, got to

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<v Speaker 1>the worst of it, went to the Salvation Army, went

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<v Speaker 1>to rehab, got his life together and is now an

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<v Speaker 1>advocate for all of the insanity that is going on

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<v Speaker 1>out there. We need more of those stories, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And if our programs were truly successful in the state

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<v Speaker 1>of California, shouldn't we have like just testimonial after testimonial

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<v Speaker 1>after testimonial of all the former homeless that were changed

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<v Speaker 1>by some of these programs, and now they've got their

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<v Speaker 1>family back, they've got their lives back. We're not hearing it.

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<v Speaker 4>So the mayor is hoping this can serve as a

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<v Speaker 4>model for the state moving forward.

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<v Speaker 5>What I'm interested in is how we can solve this

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<v Speaker 5>problem in a real way, not shoft with people around

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<v Speaker 5>from one place to another, not you know, make statements

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<v Speaker 5>about how things are getting better when everyone knows that

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<v Speaker 5>they're not.

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<v Speaker 6>No matter who are next governors, no matter which party.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, Props to Mayhean for you know, reaching

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<v Speaker 1>across the non existent island California, you'd be like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking for anybody that has good ideas, and Steve Hilton

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<v Speaker 1>has a lot of good ideas no.

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<v Speaker 6>Matter who are next governors, and I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, same exact thing. Props to Steve Hilton

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<v Speaker 1>for even though Matt Mayhan is a Democrat, he is

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<v Speaker 1>a common sense guy and these are sense issues.

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<v Speaker 6>No matter who our next governor is, no matter which

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<v Speaker 6>party they come from, we need them focused on solutions.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's what today is about. We are leading the

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<v Speaker 6>way on homelessness, on public safety.

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<v Speaker 4>The mayor held a similar tour with other candidates a

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<v Speaker 4>few weeks ago, including Tom Steyer and Katie Porter.

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<v Speaker 1>So ThisDay, Katie's here and Johnny's not here to take

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<v Speaker 1>a cheap shot. She did wind drop of the year.

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<v Speaker 7>You're out of my shot.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is a message that the mayor hopes the

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<v Speaker 4>next governor is focused on, and the mayor is willing

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<v Speaker 4>to give a tour of this facility to anyone who

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<v Speaker 4>is willing to help and make a change. He says,

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<v Speaker 4>we're in San Hoose, I'm Damien through he o NBC

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<v Speaker 4>Bay Area News.

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<v Speaker 1>So Matt Mayhan, that story ran on NBC in the Bank,

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<v Speaker 1>and Matt Mayhon posted a video with Steve Hilton, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to read you what he posted because apparently

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<v Speaker 1>this pissed off Gavin Newsom, who sent his attack dogs

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<v Speaker 1>after Matt Mayhan, who is shining just a little brighter

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<v Speaker 1>than the absentee landlord governor that we have right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's Matt Mayheen's tweet. Last year, Steve Hilton posted

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<v Speaker 1>a video of San Jose's largest most dangerous encampment, Columbus Park.

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<v Speaker 1>Today he came by to learn how we decommissioned it,

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<v Speaker 1>move people indoors, and plan to keep the area clean

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<v Speaker 1>and clear so the entire community can join it once again.

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<v Speaker 1>He is the sixth gubnatorial candidate to come by and

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<v Speaker 1>learn about our approach. The truth is, no matter who

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<v Speaker 1>our next governor is or what party they come from,

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<v Speaker 1>we need them focused on what works. Neither side of

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<v Speaker 1>the political spectrum has a monopoly on the truth. We

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<v Speaker 1>need to be able to talk to each other, find

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<v Speaker 1>pragmatic solutions, and move toward a world where we uplift

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<v Speaker 1>good ideas regardless of who came up with them boys.

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<v Speaker 1>He have breath of fresh air and one idea that

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<v Speaker 1>change the game in San Jose, a shift away from

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<v Speaker 1>the status quo approach in California to an all of

0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:08.159
<v Speaker 1>the above strategy focused on those suffering the most, the

0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 1>people living unsheltered on the streets. We scaled the faster,

0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:15.000
<v Speaker 1>cheaper housing solution that has reduced unsheltered homelessness by a

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<v Speaker 1>third over a decade of growth, and when it's available,

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<v Speaker 1>we require people to use it. I hope that Steve,

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<v Speaker 1>along with the other candidates in the race, adopt our

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<v Speaker 1>approach as a model of what's possible and commits to

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<v Speaker 1>holding every city in county accountable for doing their fair

0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 1>share in investing in what works. So nothing to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>scandalous there not even calling out Gavin specifically or the legislature.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's what happened. Mayhn posted that, and then there

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<v Speaker 1>was a reply from a woman named Tera Gagos, who

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<v Speaker 1>is a spokesman for Gavin Newsom. Apparently she used to

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<v Speaker 1>be the spokesperson for Banta, and before that she was

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<v Speaker 1>the spokesperson for or gubernatorial candidate Javier Bacarihea. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you do the scrub You know that guy scrub it.

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<v Speaker 1>So what did she write? What did she respond to?

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<v Speaker 1>She said, Gavin Newsom paid to clear this side and

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<v Speaker 1>open these tiny homes. You're welcome. Why are all of

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:25.199
<v Speaker 1>Gavin's Twitter people this bitchy, including against someone from his

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<v Speaker 1>own party who is one of the examples of success

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<v Speaker 1>in this failure of a state. But Matt Mahon replies,

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<v Speaker 1>not quite Tera, No state dollars were used to clear

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Columbus Park, as a majority of the funding for this

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:43.400
<v Speaker 1>interim housing community was raised via local and philanthropic dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>People who are sick and tired of excuses. You're right

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<v Speaker 1>that a portion of the site was paid for using

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<v Speaker 1>HAP funds, which Sacramento zeroed out in last year's budget,

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<v Speaker 1>and the governor only proposes funding at fifty percent this year.

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<v Speaker 1>We're grateful for the role of the state has played

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<v Speaker 1>in building and operating solutions like this, but scale, billing

0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 1>and sustating what works requires an ongoing commitment. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>work together to fully fund half this year and brace

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<v Speaker 1>sober living environments, implement Prop thirty six to get repeat

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<v Speaker 1>offenders into treatment, and implement a fair share framework that

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<v Speaker 1>gets every city in every county to do its part

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<v Speaker 1>in the era of encampments and end it, and Tara

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<v Speaker 1>writes back, not quite, Matt, it's a bold move to

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<v Speaker 1>try to emrase the funder when the funds are still clearing.

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<v Speaker 1>Your city is sitting on millions of unspent funds, money

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<v Speaker 1>you could have used to ensure that people you have

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<v Speaker 1>cleared from encampments were getting connected to the services they need.

0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 1>The state is giving another one billion dollars another five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred million from this budget available with Prop one funds,

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<v Speaker 1>and Matt says, sorry for the late reply. We are

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<v Speaker 1>not sitting on unspent funds because these dollars are not

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<v Speaker 1>assured each year. They have often taken more than a

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<v Speaker 1>year for Sacramento deploy and we budget them carefully, both

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<v Speaker 1>to build out new interim housing to operate the sites

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 1>we've already built. Ending homelessness is rarely a one time cost.

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Once we build a shelter, we have to operate it

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<v Speaker 1>every day. The inconsistency of these dollars makes it all

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<v Speaker 1>the harder to plan ahead and ensure that we're not

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<v Speaker 1>investing solutions that we won't be able to operate on

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<v Speaker 1>a long term basis and it just went back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth and back and forth. So Gavin Newsom spokesperson is

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<v Speaker 1>getting paid. I'm assuming this is a government job. Maybe

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 1>it's a campaign job. But she's getting paid to bitch

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<v Speaker 1>out and try to fact check McMahon and she's not

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<v Speaker 1>right on the facts. It's Randy Wang here on the

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<v Speaker 1>John Phillips Show. It's Jimmy Buffett Friday on the John

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Phillip Show. It's Randy wang here. Johnny. You'll be back

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<v Speaker 1>a week from Monday. Eight hundred two two two five

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<v Speaker 1>two two two is the telephone number. There are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of successes in San Jose, but not everything is

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<v Speaker 1>perfect when it comes to homelessness. As evidence by to

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<v Speaker 1>competing our safe parking sites, one operated by the city,

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<v Speaker 1>one operated by VTA, and there's a feud going on

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<v Speaker 1>for mar Here's NBC in the Bay, a big.

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<v Speaker 8>Fight over little spaces. A parking lot in San Jose

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<v Speaker 8>being used by homeless people could be forced to close

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<v Speaker 8>because of code violations. The city says that lot is

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<v Speaker 8>not approved as a safe parking space for the homeless.

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<v Speaker 1>So what, by the way, I think that this entire

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<v Speaker 1>concept of safe parking needs to go we change the laws.

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<v Speaker 1>It is now way more effective to crush these things

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<v Speaker 1>into cubes. Most of these are barely operable. We have

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<v Speaker 1>got to get these RVs out of the ecosystem.

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<v Speaker 8>So what happens now. NBC's Robert Honda has the details.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, this small VTA parking lot where some homeless are

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<v Speaker 9>living in vehicles is off Santa Teresa Boulevard, and it

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<v Speaker 9>is right next to another VITA lot that also houses

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<v Speaker 9>people living in their vehicles.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, here's what I do not understand. And look, everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>situation is different. You know, you can't generalize how people

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<v Speaker 1>ended up here. But if you have a vehicle and

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<v Speaker 1>you can't afford to live in San Jose, why don't

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<v Speaker 1>you drive it somewhere cheaper.

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<v Speaker 9>However, this lot is approved by the city, this one

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<v Speaker 9>is not. San Jose is strained to find places to

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<v Speaker 9>put all the people swept out of homeless encampments such

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<v Speaker 9>as Columbus Park. Late last year, the city set up

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<v Speaker 9>two so called safe parking sites, including one off Santa

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<v Speaker 9>Teresa Boulevard, a joint project by San Jose and property

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<v Speaker 9>owner Valley Transit or VTA. Homeless advocates were encouraged but

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<v Speaker 9>say it's not enough.

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<v Speaker 1>It's never enough because the advocates need more funding.

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's very crucial we need more. I'm really

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<v Speaker 7>sad that the city is not stepping up getting more.

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<v Speaker 7>I know there are places we can put our these

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<v Speaker 7>say parking.

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<v Speaker 9>So the community group Amigos they Go Wanta Loupe made

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<v Speaker 9>a contractual agreement with VITZ.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't know Spanish, that means the friends of

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<v Speaker 1>Guadalupe see this dual Lingo's paying off?

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<v Speaker 7>Are these say parking?

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<v Speaker 9>So the community group Amigos they Go Wantaloupe made a

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<v Speaker 9>contractual agreement with VTA in twenty twenty four to allow

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<v Speaker 9>about a dozen vehicles to stay temporarily on a lot

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<v Speaker 9>right next to the city's safe parking site, but a

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<v Speaker 9>neighborhood group complained to the city, saying it never agreed

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<v Speaker 9>to this new safe site and that it wasn't actually

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<v Speaker 9>safe city.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there is that. You remember the lawsuit that's coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of the safe camping and safe parking sites that

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<v Speaker 1>are in San Diego and the derelic conditions that are

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<v Speaker 1>going on the vermin because these sites are not clean.

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Because Shaker, the nonprofits are taking the money to operate

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<v Speaker 1>it and aren't making sure that they are safe. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>they had a security guard at the one in San

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<v Speaker 1>Diego that was trying to solicit prostitution from the homeless women.

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<v Speaker 9>Code enforcement inspectors sent compliance orders to VTA after they

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<v Speaker 9>found violations, including what they called property blight, hazardous conditions,

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<v Speaker 9>and inadequate solid waste management.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got to stop this entire concept. Safe storage, safe parking.

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<v Speaker 1>We change the laws a little, we need to change

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<v Speaker 1>them more. If the RV is not driveable, it needs

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<v Speaker 1>to no longer be considered a dwelling or even a

0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:28.320
<v Speaker 1>piece of property. It needs to be crushed into a cube.

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<v Speaker 1>These things are dangerous and what happens in Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>is the worst. Where we toe one of these things,

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<v Speaker 1>the police impound lots are full. So the laws of change.

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<v Speaker 1>It used to be that if it was worth more

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<v Speaker 1>than five hundred dollars, you couldn't crush into a cube.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I think that's up to four thousand dollars, depending

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<v Speaker 1>on if counties opt into that, and I hope they do.

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<v Speaker 1>But what was happening was these things we get auctioned

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<v Speaker 1>off for fifty bucks. The van lord would get them

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<v Speaker 1>put them back out of the street and rent them

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<v Speaker 1>to a homeless person for five hundred bucks.

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<v Speaker 9>VTA told us compliance is the responsibility of Amigos they Guadaloupe.

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<v Speaker 9>Amigos de Guadalupe says it's stepped up to help during

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<v Speaker 9>a moment of crisis and we'll work with residents.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder how much money Amigos de Guadalupe is getting

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<v Speaker 1>to set up this RV camp.

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<v Speaker 9>To bring the current situation into compliance. One issue looming

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<v Speaker 9>over all of this is that San Jose says, despite

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:29.439
<v Speaker 9>Amigo's agreement with VTA, under city land use rules that

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 9>parking lot is not allowed to be used as a

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<v Speaker 9>safe parking lot. Advocates say the city, VTA and Amigos

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<v Speaker 9>need to find middle ground for the sake of those

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<v Speaker 9>in their vehicles.

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<v Speaker 1>Well where are they going to go?

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>How about the sake of the neighbors that don't want this?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, gosh, there is and I'm sure they'll say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm we did, we did some public input, we had

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<v Speaker 1>some town halls. They don't care about that. And who

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 1>has the actual time to go to these things? Do

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:57.799
<v Speaker 1>you know what's going on in my neighborhood? In the

0:35:57.800 --> 0:36:01.720
<v Speaker 1>San Fernando Valley. There is is the Metro G line,

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:04.600
<v Speaker 1>which is the we call it the Orange line. It's

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:07.360
<v Speaker 1>the big bus. They have a big parkin ride lot

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 1>where it's right at Victory and Balboa Caddy corner from

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:18.279
<v Speaker 1>a big high school and homes and shopping. It's, you know,

0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 1>a very residential part of town. But they have this

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:26.279
<v Speaker 1>parking ride lot for Metro and to deal with the

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:30.080
<v Speaker 1>problem of all the RVs showing up in my neck

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<v Speaker 1>of the woods. Ammelda Padilla from the La City Council.

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<v Speaker 1>You know this Amelda Padilla street pavements that are cooler,

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:42.760
<v Speaker 1>This Amelda Padilla oken windy theory. This Amelda Padilla.

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<v Speaker 7>The neighborhood kids, the down as kids don't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>She cracked a deal because she's also on the Metro

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<v Speaker 1>board to take away that parking lot so people can

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<v Speaker 1>use the bus that they want you to get on,

0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 1>and they're going to stuff it full of RV's. Currently

0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:01.640
<v Speaker 1>there's police caution tape on the entrance to that parking lot.

0:37:01.840 --> 0:37:03.839
<v Speaker 1>They haven't put an the RVs in there yet, but

0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:07.800
<v Speaker 1>nobody can use it. How can we not just crush

0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 1>these things into cubes?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, where are they going to go.

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:13.360
<v Speaker 7>They're going to go to maybe another VTA site or

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:18.480
<v Speaker 7>another neighborhood. They keep sweeping these these RVs and they're

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:21.080
<v Speaker 7>moving one am to the next neighborhood.

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Now that'm by, we give them a one way ticket

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:25.120
<v Speaker 1>and enough gasoline to get them to Slab City.

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<v Speaker 9>Now, this issue first came up in early December, and

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<v Speaker 9>the original compliance deadline has been extended from December twenty

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:35.000
<v Speaker 9>eighth to the end of January. The city and VTA

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<v Speaker 9>says until then, no one will be forced to move,

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<v Speaker 9>but after that there are no guarantees unless the two

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<v Speaker 9>sides reach an agreement.

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<v Speaker 1>I do not understand why our transit agencies that want

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<v Speaker 1>you to get out of your car are taking away

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<v Speaker 1>parking lots so you can use their services and turning

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<v Speaker 1>them into RV safe camping. What nonsense. Hey, we got

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<v Speaker 1>one more hour to go here on the John Phillips Show,

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<v Speaker 1>and when we come back, we're going to Oakland and

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<v Speaker 1>we actually have some somewhat positive stories from there. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here for it. It's Randy wag Here on The

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<v Speaker 1>John Phillips Show.