1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: And we continue at one o five in the afternoon 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: on the John Phillips Show. Mister Randy Wangs in Culver City. 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 2: John, the City of La and the County of La 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 2: love to tellut that the number of homeless on the 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: streets has dropped in the last few years. We all 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 2: know that's a bunch of bs and this pretty much 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 2: seals it. In the La County Department of Public Health 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: has just put out a report they are seeing an 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: all time high of flea born typhus cases. Typhus comes 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: from rats that come from homeless encampments. 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: Well, at least we have Barbara Ferreira on the case. 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two is 13 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: the telephone number one eight hundred two two two five 14 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: two two two. It is our pleasure to welcome our 15 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: next guest to the program. He is the president of 16 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association and host of the Howard 17 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: Jarvis Radio Show, which here is Tuesday nights at six 18 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: pm on KABC. You can get him online at HJATA 19 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: dot org and follow him on x at John Coupaul. 20 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: John Coupoul, Welcome, how are you doing. I'm good, Thanks 21 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: so much for stopping by this afternoon, always a pleasure. 22 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: Let's start out by talking about the campaign of San 23 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: Jose mer Matt Mahan, who is running for governor of 24 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: California in the June primary. He is a guy who 25 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: is trying to present himself as a moderate Democrat, as 26 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: a technocrat, as someone who is unwilling to put up 27 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:42,639 Speaker 1: with crime and homelessness and budget busting spending, those sorts 28 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: of things. And he thought that there would be a 29 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: large audience in California, particularly among Democrats who are looking 30 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: for someone who shares their values on the social issues, 31 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: but who's willing to make the trains run on time. 32 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: Apparently he hasn't been able to find that audio and yet, 33 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: because his pull numbers are somewhere in the three percent range. 34 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: Yesterday we learned that he's firing his campaign manager and 35 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: hoping for a reset. What do you make of the 36 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: fact that he is not connected with voters so far. 37 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: Well, I think the fact that he is a sane 38 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 3: individual immediately disqualifies him as a Democratic gubernatorial candidate. If 39 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 3: you look who else is running it is you know, 40 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: whatever you think about Matt Mahon, he is probably the 41 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 3: most sane of all the candidates they have. But I 42 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 3: think his real problem is that he was in fact. 43 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: I know he's now claiming that he doesn't have a 44 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 3: lot of money, but the reality is he did raise 45 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: eleven point five million, but that eleven point five million 46 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 3: was from just five hundred and six individuals. So the 47 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 3: fact of the matter is, like any election, it is 48 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 3: voters who vote and not bills. And so unless you 49 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 3: are able to connect with a large demographic constituency, and 50 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 3: the high tech industry is not that kind of broad 51 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 3: based demographic. It's a very small demographic, and they're extraordinarily wealthy, 52 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 3: and they have the resources to punch through with public 53 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: creation of public relation ads and those kinds of things. 54 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 3: But you need to be able to generate a buzz, 55 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 3: and we have just seen the inability of moderate Democrats 56 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 3: like Matt breakthrough, and so now you've got you know, 57 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: I think the reality is the Republicans remain strangely enough, 58 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: fairly well positioned with the two top candidates, and of 59 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: course that is the Democrat nightmare that Steve Hilton and 60 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: Chad Bianco would come in number one and number two, 61 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: and that is, you know, that is their nightmare scenario 62 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 3: that those would be the two candidates heading into November, 63 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: and of course what would happen immediately is that there 64 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 3: would be a recall whoever won, and that recall would 65 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 3: probably be successful. So again, this is reflective of the 66 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 3: fact that California politics is very bizarre, very chaotic, and 67 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, the people of California 68 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 3: are not being well served either by most of the 69 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 3: people who are running or by the system itself. The 70 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 3: top two primary system has turned out to be far 71 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: less than it was promised to be, So we'll just 72 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 3: see how it shakes out. But I do think Matt 73 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: Mahon just didn't have the sizzle that I think it 74 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 3: takes to connect with a broad group of voters in 75 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 3: the state of California. 76 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: I don't know what your experience has been like, but 77 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: in my own personal social network, the Democrats I know 78 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: are totally checked out to state in local politics. They 79 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: have no clue what's going on. They don't really have 80 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: strong opinions either way. They are totally focused on hating 81 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: Donald Trump and that's the only thing that they care about. 82 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: If and when a failure of the state causes a 83 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: problem for them, they'll grumble about it. They'll grumble about 84 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: the homeless encampment near their home. They'll grumble about the 85 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: fact that they have to buy shampoo through bulletproof class. 86 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: They'll grumble at the fact that the taxes seem to 87 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: be going one way and that the budget is upside down, 88 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: but it won't impact their vote at all. They don't 89 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: connect the two. They don't see those problems being associated 90 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: with the politics of the state that they live in 91 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: and the one party rule of the Democrats in Sacramento. 92 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: And if it doesn't impact their voting, then if you're 93 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: a Matt Mahon and you're trying to run on running 94 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: government as efficiently as possible, and Antonio Vierregosi, I think 95 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: is doing some variation of that too, and he's not 96 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: in the top three either. I just don't see, given 97 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:06,239 Speaker 1: the temperature of that electorate right now, how you sell 98 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: yourself as a candidate the way that Mayhean and viaa 99 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: Gosa are trying, because I don't think that electorate is 100 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: buying what they're selling. 101 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 3: Not yet, but I think there might be one opportunity, 102 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,559 Speaker 3: and that is just the news in the last week 103 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 3: or ten days about the fraud. We've all known that 104 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 3: there is so much fraud in this state. I worked 105 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: with a fraud expert and he and I published a 106 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 3: couple columns, and it's like the Minnesota fraud. It was 107 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 3: there and everybody knew it until somebody until it hit 108 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 3: critical mass here in California. The amount of fraud in 109 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 3: California is going to make Minnesota look like child's play 110 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 3: by comparison. So if I were one of the Democrat candidates, 111 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 3: I would try to grab the mantle of addressing fraud 112 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 3: because I do think you know, when when you and 113 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 3: I go out and speak to people, when we start 114 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 3: talking about fraud, you can see the veins on the 115 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 3: people side of people's heads start to pop out as 116 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: they get really angry because at an intuitive level, they 117 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 3: know that the amount of waste out there, that's our money, 118 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 3: that's our money. And you're well aware that the EDD 119 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 3: fraud alone was between thirty billion billion, not million, thirty 120 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: billion and fifty billion, and the EDD fraud and now 121 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 3: people barely remember as a story. Now you've got the 122 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: stories out there about in La County alone, the number 123 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 3: of hospice care services like sixty care services assigned to 124 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 3: one building doesn't make any sense. We know the fraud 125 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 3: is there, but until some candidate can connect the fraud 126 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 3: with the absolute robbery of taxpayer, I think that may 127 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 3: be an avenue, not just for a Democrat candidate, but 128 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: I do think that certainly Steve Hilton has already made 129 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 3: that a cornerstone of his campaign, and we'll see if 130 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 3: that bears any fruit. 131 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: I want to go back to a point that you 132 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: made about Matt Mayhan, where you talked about the amount 133 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: of money that he's raised, but it's all come from 134 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: a handful of individuals in Silicon Valley. We know that 135 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: certain tech companies have already moved out of California, Oracle 136 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: and Tesla among them, and we know that we're in 137 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: danger of having more tech companies move out of California 138 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: for Austin, for Florida, for other places. Clearly, the people 139 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: who work in those industries would prefer to stay here, 140 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: but if the government makes it untenable, they have a 141 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders to pack up and leave. 142 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: They saw Matt Mayhan as the answer to all of 143 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: their problems. They saw him as someone who shared their 144 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: values on socialist Choose, but would certainly make California a 145 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: business friendly state to the tech community, particularly when AI 146 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: is about to explode, given the fact that he seems 147 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: to not have any pop to his campaign. Where do 148 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: those people go, assuming they recalibrate and they decide that 149 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: they're going to cut bait on Mayhon. Do they go 150 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: to Via Ragosa because they see him as the other 151 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: moderate Democrat alternative. Do they go to the two Republicans 152 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: because they see a Republican on Republican runoff as a 153 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: viable option. Or do they look at Eric Swalwell as 154 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: the inevitable Democratic governor of California and they decide, all right, 155 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: we're going to just try to curry favor with who 156 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: we think is going to win. 157 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 3: Jeez, got to help us if it's Swalwell, because that 158 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 3: guy has more baggage than the cargo hold of a 159 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 3: seven forty seven. But be that as it be, that 160 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 3: as it may. I don't know where they go. I 161 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 3: do think, and you know, for per this is a 162 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 3: full disclosure. The Howard Jarvis PAC has endorsed Steve Hilton 163 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 3: in his effort, and one of the reasons we did 164 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 3: so is because he is extremely policy oriented and he 165 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 3: speaks about fraud and the outmigration of both individuals and 166 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 3: capital out of the state of California. He knows the 167 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 3: facts and figures he's fast on his feet. But the 168 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 3: question is, and we like him a lot, but the 169 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 3: question is, is he perceived by the average California as 170 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: being a little bit too close to Donald Trump? Because 171 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 3: Donald Trump still remains very unpopular in the state of California. 172 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 3: So I think Steve one of Steve's challenges will be 173 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 3: to focus really on the problems of California, which he 174 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 3: has done with two of his books. I mean, he's caught. 175 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 3: He's One of his books is Kala Opportunity or something 176 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 3: like that, where he talks about the opportunity in the 177 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 3: respect of being that kind of Reaganesque optimism. I think 178 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 3: there's a lane there for either a Democrat or Republican 179 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: who can be less going on personal attacks and being 180 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 3: more focused on policy, because really, look, potholes are indiscriminate 181 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 3: as it comes to whether it's a Republican, Republican or 182 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 3: Democrat car that it's about ready to drop the axle on. 183 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 3: So I think, you know, there are some people, I 184 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 3: think out there that would be attractive to somebody who's 185 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 3: very problem focused and I know Matt tried to fill 186 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 3: that lane, but we just don't. We don't know who's 187 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 3: going to fill that lane. And it's going to take 188 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 3: a question of very disciplined marketing, not marketing but so 189 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 3: much as messaging. How do you mess so, how do 190 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 3: you articulate the problems, identify the problems, and articulate the 191 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 3: solutions and then come across as being realistic in your 192 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 3: ability to address those problems. 193 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: We're speaking with John Coopaul, who you can follow on 194 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: x at John without the age Coupaul. John, Let's talk 195 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: about Eric Swalwells more because he just received the endorsement 196 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: of the California Teachers Association. Before that, he received the 197 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: endorsement of the SEIU. Those are the two big unions 198 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: here in the state of California. Other unions I should 199 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: mention have thrown their endorsements in different places. Via Ragosa 200 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: has some endorsements, Styer has some, Porter has some, Besarah 201 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: and others. But the CTA and the STIU are certainly 202 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: the two big ones. Just as AI is about to 203 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: explode and California will be the epicenter of that, the 204 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: unions and the tech companies are about ready to clash 205 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: with one another. They're going to collide. What both of 206 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: them want you can't have. You can't split the baby. 207 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: Either one wins or the other one wins. That's the 208 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: way it's going to be. The AI companies obviously want 209 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 1: things like driverless cars. They want technology to be able 210 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: to pick the fruit and the vegetables in the Central Valley. Certainly, 211 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: the medical industry would be remade by AI. A lot 212 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: of jobs would go away, and the unions are going 213 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: to do everything they can to try to kill this. 214 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: If we have a governor that is wholly owned by 215 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: the unions right as AI is going to blow up, 216 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: that seems like just about the worst case scenario to me. 217 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 3: Yeah it is. But all those AI industries will move 218 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 3: to other states because I do believe the federal government 219 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 3: will come in and invalidate some of the non competitive 220 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 3: or uncompetitive laws that California is trying to enact to 221 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 3: the extent that they attempt to extend to other states. 222 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 3: Some of these companies will say, Okay, California is a 223 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 3: lost cause, so we're just going to move to the 224 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 3: Austin or the Carolinas, or Florida or wherever. But the 225 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 3: one thing they have to be careful about is California 226 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 3: is never ending effort to extend the reach of its 227 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 3: laws to other states. We see this with the so 228 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 3: called the wealth tax. You know, they have this provision 229 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 3: and then, by the way, I don't think that wins, 230 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 3: but they have a provision there that seeks to target 231 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 3: the wealth as of a date, even after a wealthy 232 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 3: individual has moved out of state. I believe that is 233 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 3: very obviously constitutionally defective. That they can't go out and 234 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 3: try to extend the reach of California's laws beyond the 235 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 3: borders of California. So to the extent that the unions 236 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 3: get away with this, I believe they it will result 237 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 3: in a loss of some of these big jobs. Now 238 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 3: I hasten to add this. The last election cycle, it 239 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 3: was actually pretty decent for the Libertarians and conservatives. Look 240 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 3: what we did on the whole public safety passing Prop 241 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 3: thirty six. The voters of the state of California rejected 242 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 3: an expansion of rent control, and the campaign that we 243 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 3: led on Prop five, the attempt to lower the two 244 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 3: thirds vote for local general obligation bonds. We beat that 245 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 3: by ten points. Notwithstanding the fact that we were outspent 246 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 3: ten to one. So I think the body politic in 247 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 3: California is a lot more centrist than is reflected in 248 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 3: our political leadership. Now. The counter argument to that would be, Okay, 249 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 3: if that's true, then why didn't Matt Mayhan, Why didn't 250 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 3: his campaign gain traction? And I think you could be 251 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 3: talking about that for a long time. I guess I 252 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 3: think it gets down to the sizzle. Do you have 253 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 3: someone who's up there who's can actually be the messenger 254 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 3: and be a really excellent communicator. And that may have 255 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 3: been one of the shortfalls, either that or that the 256 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 3: two sides are now so politicized, particularly on the left 257 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 3: hand side. I think you've got people who used to be, 258 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 3: you know, in the old days, yesterday's Democrats would be 259 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 3: today's Republicans because the Democratic Party now is really defined 260 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 3: by its far left, even socialist leadership, and I think 261 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 3: that is I think they're going to lose a lot 262 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 3: of people in that respect. 263 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: Let's go back to the tax that you reference that 264 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: the SEIU is putting on the ballot, the wealth confiscation tax. 265 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: They say it's a one time thing and they're only 266 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: going after billionaires. Well, Apparently they've been caught conducting some 267 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: public polling where they're asking people if they would support 268 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: the same sort of confiscation tax on those valued at 269 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: ten million dollars, not billion, ten million dollars or more, 270 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: which leads us to believe that they weren't being fully honest. 271 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: Surprise surprise, when they said it was going to be 272 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: a one time thing. 273 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, shock shock, I mean, yeah, the the in any 274 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 3: of these campaigns, you know, when they make when they 275 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 3: show their true selves. Our side really has to exploit that. 276 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 3: I remember when there was a split Roll campaign. There 277 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 3: was split Role is the effort to take away Prop 278 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 3: thirteen's property tax protections away from business properties, and they 279 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 3: said that the level was going to be set so 280 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 3: high that residential properties would not be impacted. But then 281 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 3: you had some statements from a number of supporters saying 282 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 3: we're coming after businesses first and then we'll come over 283 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 3: after homeowners later. Well, my members are almost exclusively homeowners, 284 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 3: understand that if there's any weaknesses punched in Prop thirteen, 285 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 3: that's bad for all property owners, whether you're business, industrial, agricultural, 286 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 3: or residential. So I think our people get it, and 287 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 3: my hope is at the end of the day that 288 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 3: with all these issues that they make good choices with 289 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 3: respected candidates, but also the ballot measures. And as it 290 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 3: relates to the ballot measures, it's looking like we're on 291 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 3: track that we could see as many as seventeen actually 292 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 3: make it to the ballot. I know we had at 293 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 3: one time more than sixty or seventy filed. But there 294 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 3: are some very impactful initiatives that are bound to be 295 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 3: on the ballot, one of which is ours, of course, 296 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 3: which is closing some of the loopholes in Prop thirteen, 297 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 3: and that looks we turned in one point three million 298 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 3: signatures and that appears to be on track to qualify. 299 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 3: But there's a lot of other things out there that 300 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 3: people really need to watch very carefully and discern what 301 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 3: is the what are the good ones, and what are 302 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 3: the bad ones. 303 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: John Coopaul, President of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association and 304 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: host of The Howard Jarvis Radio Show, which is Tuesday 305 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: nine to six on KABC. You can get him online 306 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: at hjat a dot org and follow him on x 307 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: at John without the h Coupaul. John Coopaul, thanks so 308 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: much for stopping by. Take care of John eight hundred 309 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: two two two five two two two is telephone number? 310 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: What eight hundred two two two five two two two 311 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: Are you looking at this AI photograph of the two of. 312 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 4: Us with mister Peanut. Why? 313 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 2: Yes, I am Tony, who is our resident AI expert 314 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 2: decided to generate a picture of John Phillips, myself and 315 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 2: Antonio Viragosa. But instead of of the typical Antonio Viragosa, 316 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 2: it is a picture of Antonio Viragosa if he was 317 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 2: the yellow eminem. 318 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 3: Pnut. 319 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,239 Speaker 1: Okay, My one objection to this photograph is that he 320 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: gave me gray hair on the sides. 321 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 4: It's not him, that's the AI. 322 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 2: My objection is that my face looks scary. 323 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two is 324 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: jellphone number one. Eight hundred two two two five two 325 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: two two. If you'd like to email the show, you 326 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: can do so at Johnny don't like show at gmail 327 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: dot com. That's Johnny, don't like show gmail dot com. 328 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: All right, it's time to open up the California Crime Blodder. 329 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 5: It's happened yet again. 330 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: Nice see. 331 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 6: Time for the California Crime Blodder and. 332 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: Randy Surprise Surprise. This one involves a massage parlor. 333 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 2: Carl's Bead is cracking down on the massage parlors where 334 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 2: you know what is happening for mar Here is Fox 335 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: five in the San Diego area. 336 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 7: Good Thursday evening, everyone, and thank you for joining us. 337 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 7: Sum Maria sega done. 338 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: And I'm Andrew Loia. 339 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 8: We begin tonight in the North County where Carlsbad. 340 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 2: Police have shut down four massage spas in Carlsbad Village 341 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 2: and Brussey Ram. 342 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 7: More than half a dozen people were arrested for prostitution 343 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 7: in a police investigation. 344 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 2: I'm shocked they found prostitution at a massage parlor and 345 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 2: a strip mall. 346 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen that movie starring REEDA. Rudner called 347 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: a Weekend in the Country. 348 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 4: I have not. 349 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: It's a great movie. It was a made for TV 350 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: movie on the USA Network a long time ago. But 351 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: there are laughs in that movie. It's a fun movie 352 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: and it's them spending a weekend in Temecula in wine 353 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: country for some kind of wine festival. And Dudley Moore, 354 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: the eight Great Dudley Moore was in the movie and 355 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: there's one scene where he's at the spa and he's 356 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: getting the massage from this woman who's talking to him 357 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: about all this new age stuff, and it's just him 358 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: laying down and her doing the massage. And then after 359 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: I don't know twenty or thirty seconds of her talking 360 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: to him about crystals and new age stuff, he lifts 361 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: his head up off the table and he goes more 362 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: massage less hippiebs, and then he puts his head back 363 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: down on the table. 364 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 7: More than half a dozen people were arrested for prostitution 365 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 7: in a police investigation that spanned six months. Our Julia 366 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 7: Varra joins his line from Carlsbad with why police say 367 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 7: local residents help crack the case. 368 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 4: Juliet Hi Maria Well. 369 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 9: Police say they were getting a lot of calls from 370 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 9: business owners that were noticing suspicious activity. They were also 371 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 9: getting I. 372 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 2: Mean, like anybody who is getting a massage at ten 373 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 2: o'clock at night, that doesn't happen. 374 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: What you're saying, that's not a legitimate massage. 375 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 2: Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying. If your massage 376 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: parlor is open late at night, chances are there's illegal 377 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: activity going on. 378 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,479 Speaker 1: They call those gentlemen's massages. 379 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 9: Noticing suspicious activity. They were also getting calls from Carl's 380 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 9: Bad residents who were going to these businesses to get 381 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 9: a massage, but they were offered. 382 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 6: Much more than that. 383 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: Good don't say. 384 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 9: Tucked in Carl's Bad Village, you'll find a lot of 385 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 9: local mom and pop businesses and fit the beachy coastal 386 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 9: vibe here. Rayo radez Cozy Cottage coffee shop is no different. 387 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 9: If you can't tell from his decor. 388 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 7: We want to see prospering businesses and other business owners 389 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 7: doing things that are community driven. 390 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 9: But the massage parlor next door to him on Carl's 391 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 9: Bad Boulevard, he says, never quite seem to. 392 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: Fit the mold. You don't think, wait, they're not getting 393 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: a cupped show first. 394 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 2: Because we didn't see a lot of people going. 395 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: In throughout the day. It was more night activity. 396 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 6: Definitely male clientele based. 397 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 4: There's your other red flag. 398 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: If it's almost entirely men going to the massage parlor, 399 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 2: you can tell this is not legit. 400 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: Hey, maybe they have stiff necks from sitting in front 401 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: of the computer all day at the office. 402 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 4: Don't use that word. 403 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 6: Definitely male clientele based. 404 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 9: Ocean Missed Massage now one of four Carl'sbad spas rated 405 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 9: and shut down by Carlsbad Police thanks to community members 406 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 9: reporting strange activity. 407 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: Girls coming in being there for a week or so. 408 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, what what you might not know is that usually 409 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 2: the women who are the UH massuses live in these establishments. 410 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 2: A lot of them are shipped here from China or 411 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 2: some other Asian country. 412 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: Kind of looking like they didn't have a place. 413 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 9: Ray caught part of the raid on camera the day 414 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 9: it went down at Ocean Miss Massage. It shows video 415 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 9: of someone inside trying to kick the door down. 416 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 8: A lot of these illegitimate businesses are connected to organized crime. 417 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 4: Well there is that. 418 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: Well it's not going to be the Mormon church that 419 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: opens up the Ocean Miss Massage parlor and they use 420 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: this as a front. 421 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 9: Lieutenant Alonso de la Lasco says police were tipped off 422 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 9: by residence calling to report solicitation of prostitution. 423 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 8: On a couple of occasions. Customer result as if they 424 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 8: were being pressured into engaging in prostitution services. 425 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 2: That what they did not ask for. Yeah, what happens 426 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 2: if you say no, I don't want the happy ending? 427 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 2: They call that the upsell they were offered. 428 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 8: And when they would turn down the solicitations, the some 429 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 8: of them. 430 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: I have you in a position where this is either 431 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 2: going to feel real good or it's going to feel 432 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: real bad. 433 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: Uh oh. 434 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 8: They were offered, and when they would turn down the solicitations, 435 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 8: the some of the massusu would become a little bit 436 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 8: more aggressive. 437 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 6: He says. 438 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 9: That was also them down the road at Happy Chiatsu spawned. 439 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 2: You don't put happy in the name unless you know 440 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 2: what you're doing. 441 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: Did I tell you that the city made Yum Yum 442 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: number two change the sign? 443 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 2: I was wondering how many minutes we'd get into this 444 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: story before you had a Yum Yum number two reference. 445 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: And now all the sign says is massage. 446 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 9: He says that was also them down the road at 447 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 9: Happy Chiatzu spawn, Jefferson Avenue and Imperial Massage on Grand Avenue, 448 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 9: Kingspa on Gateway Road in Bressey Ranch, which is in 449 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 9: a very busy shopping plaza. 450 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 2: Legitimate Spa has the name Burke Williams Illegitimate Spa Happy Shiatsu. 451 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 9: Kingspaw on Gateway Road in Bressey Ranch, which is in 452 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 9: a very busy shopping plaza, was also right and shut 453 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 9: down by police for similar illegal practices. 454 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 8: At this point, we don't know. 455 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 2: And by the way, it's good that Carlsbad is doing this. 456 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 2: I firmly believe that cities like Los Angeles, where there 457 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 2: are so many of these places, if you counted, you 458 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 2: would lose count just driving two miles in the same 459 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 2: Fernando Valley. I think the city of LA looks the 460 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 2: other way because they want the business tax. 461 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: They want the business tax, and then they have to 462 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: get a business license, so there's probably a payoff at 463 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: the beginning. 464 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 2: I kind of wonder if you actually did the job 465 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 2: of the city attorney and you shut down the illegally 466 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: operating smoke shops that are selling stuff they're not to 467 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 2: be selling, and you're shutting down the massage parlors that 468 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 2: are selling things they're not supposed to be selling. I 469 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 2: firmly believe if you did that, we'd have so many 470 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 2: vacancies inside the strip malls that the entire commercial real 471 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 2: estate market in LA would collapse. 472 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: Well, here's something I do know. Whenever they redraw the 473 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 1: district lines for the city council in Los Angeles, they 474 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: all fight over Koreatown. And they fight over Koreatown because 475 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: there's a lot of shady businesses down there that they 476 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: can shake down. 477 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 8: At this point, we don't know what connection they have 478 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 8: to human trafficking, but it is often an element to 479 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 8: these illicit massage spas that are operating. 480 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 9: Investigators say in these cases, spaw employees were being exploited. Employees, 481 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 9: Lieutenant Develasco says, are often offered very low wages. They're 482 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 9: usually from another country, oftentimes traveling students on visas. 483 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 8: They now participate in this illegal activity to make additional money. 484 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 9: But now this North County community is on alert thanks 485 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 9: to a police department on the lookout. 486 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 2: What how long that investigation took? How deep an investigation 487 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 2: did they have to do? 488 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: They were very thorough and. 489 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 9: Seven people were arrested in this case for pimping and 490 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 9: pandering and institution. Two of them were SPA owners. The 491 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 9: rest employees all were women. Police say civil case the. 492 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 4: Pimps were women too. 493 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: Well, what's that progress? 494 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 9: Police say, civil cases are being filed against the owners. 495 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 9: Reporting live tonight from the Carlsbad Police Department, I'm juliet Vara, 496 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 9: Fox five News. 497 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 7: All Right, Juliette with the latest, Thank. 498 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 2: You, there you go, the city of Carlsbad doing what 499 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 2: a lot of cities won't shutting down the obvious illicit 500 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 2: massage parlors. 501 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two is 502 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: the cellphone number? What eight hundred two two two five 503 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: two two two. If you'd like to email the show, 504 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: you can do so at Johnny don't like show at 505 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: gmail dot com. That's Johnny don't like show at gmail 506 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: dot com. And Randy. I assume all of the emails 507 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: are too explicit to read on the air. 508 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 4: Yes, there are many jokes. 509 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: Some of them are any funny, but they're a little 510 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 2: too explicit for the all am radio. 511 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: All right, it's now time to reopen the California crime blodder. 512 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 5: It's happened yet again. 513 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: Nice see. 514 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 6: Time for the California crime. 515 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: Blodder, and this one takes us to the City by 516 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: the Bay. 517 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 2: Just a warning, if you get a text message saying 518 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: that you forgot to pay a traffic ticket, it's a scam. 519 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 2: I just got one of these the other day. For more, 520 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: here's NBC in the Bay. 521 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 6: Okay, here's your warning. Scammers are sending out fake notices 522 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 6: of traffic violations and as NBC barriers. Christie Smith tells us, 523 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,959 Speaker 6: the notices appear as if they're coming right from the court. 524 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 6: The message is to be aware of violation notices showing 525 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 6: up on your phone or email. 526 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 10: Consumers around the Bay Area have been receiving emails and 527 00:30:55,160 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 10: text messages indicating that they have tolls or out standing 528 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 10: tickets that they owe finds for and. 529 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 2: They are cal Trands is not sophisticated enough to even 530 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 2: know how to text you a fine. 531 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: Nope, anyone who tells you that you owe the money 532 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: via text message, do not pay them. It's one of 533 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: the things that drives me crazy about my dermatologist. They 534 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: just text message you the bill. And since I know 535 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: that that's their standards and practices over there, I know 536 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: it's legitimate, but I hate the fact that it's them 537 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: and a bunch of scams. 538 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 10: Finds for and they are being prompted to go to 539 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 10: a link in order to pay those fines to avoid 540 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 10: having to go to a court hearing. 541 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 6: San Francisco's District Attorney put out a joint consumer alert 542 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 6: with the Santa Cruz County DA. They say the notices 543 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 6: appear to come from the court and could be labeled 544 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 6: notice of hearing it toll violation, or notice of hearing 545 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 6: traffic violation or something similar, and it may include a cure. 546 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 2: I knew for me that it was fraudulent because it 547 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 2: said that I got a speeding ticket, and I don't 548 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: think in the last three years I've ever been able 549 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: to drive faster than fifty miles an hour in Los Angeles. 550 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 6: Or notice of hearing traffic violation or something similar, and 551 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 6: it may include a QR code or link to make 552 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 6: a payment. Jenkins says, don't click it. 553 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 10: Most importantly, know that if the Superior Court of California 554 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 10: wants to get in touch with you, they will not 555 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 10: be sending you a text or an email. 556 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 2: They will not be They're going to send a letter 557 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 2: to an address you haven't lived in five years. 558 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: And then when you don't pay it, they're going to 559 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: start tacking extra fines on them. 560 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 10: Wants to get in touch with you, they will not 561 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 10: be sending you a text or an email. They will 562 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 10: not be telling you to go to a link in 563 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 10: order to pay a fine through that type of messaging mechanism, 564 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 10: and not to pay anything that you are being told 565 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 10: to pay through that type of again, text message or email. 566 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 2: Other red flag you owe us money for a traffic ticket. 567 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 2: We need you to pay it in gift cardsds. 568 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: I have shocked that people fall for that. 569 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 2: They're usually targeting the elderly, and the elderly are just 570 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 2: happy that somebody texted them. 571 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 6: Along the Embarcadero today, we asked people if they'd heard 572 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 6: of this actually gone something similar to that. I can't 573 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 6: say exactly that, but yes, and what did you do? 574 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:24,479 Speaker 5: I ignored it. 575 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 11: I'm not gonna send money to something that I didn't initiate, 576 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 11: you know, I mean like more like if they're initiating 577 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 11: and I'm just receiving. Now, if I put in a 578 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 11: request with something I know I had a bill on 579 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 11: or something I had experience with the person's names and things, 580 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 11: I'll still even resource. 581 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 10: That a little for them. 582 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 6: Jenkins says her office could potentially prosecute the scammera's responsible. 583 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 2: Well, good luck finding them. They're out in Cambodia. 584 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: And I know I keep mentioning this, but I'm gonna 585 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: mention it again. Do not forget when they killed El Menshell, 586 00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: the drug cartel leader in Mexico. They talked about his operation. 587 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: Part of his operation for a Mexican drug cartel, he 588 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: had an entire building in Mexico. That he turned into 589 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: rez and they were the ones that were making the 590 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: phone calls trying to scam the elderly out of time shares. 591 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 6: She's asking that people notify her office if they receive 592 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 6: the fake notices. 593 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 10: But we are again having investigators look into this. Hopefully 594 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 10: we can track down whomever is responsible for this, but 595 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 10: in the meantime, we just want to make sure that 596 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 10: no one logs on to pay money that they do 597 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 10: not owe to these fraudsters. 598 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 6: In San Francisco. Christie Smith, NBC Bayran News. 599 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 2: There you go, no way, know, how are you actually 600 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 2: going to get a legitimate text message from the city, 601 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 2: the county, or the state saying that you owe them money? 602 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 4: They'll send you a letter and the. 603 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: Letter should look official too. All right, it's time to 604 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: reopen the California crime bladder. 605 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,240 Speaker 5: It's happened yet again. 606 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 4: This wow, wow, what's not weird? 607 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 11: Dun Dun dun, dun dundun dun reads the Califonia Crime Blodder. 608 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 5: With Jung. 609 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 4: And Randy. 610 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: This one leads me to believe that nothing is sacred 611 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: because it involves a scam regarding the lottery. 612 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 2: This is the good old fashioned fake lotto scam. If 613 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 2: somebody approaches you and says, hey, I have a winning 614 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 2: lottery ticket, but there's some reason that I can't cash it. 615 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 2: Can you give me some money as collateral so I 616 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 2: know that I trust you and you can cash it. 617 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 2: That is the oldest scam in the books. 618 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 1: Well, one of the things that happens, and I've talked 619 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: to people who have seen this occur. If you owe 620 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,919 Speaker 1: a ton of money in child support, or you owe 621 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: the government money and they're garnishing your wages, and you 622 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 1: have a winning lottery ticket, the government can just take 623 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: their portion to the money and give it to your 624 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: ex wife or or give it to the irs or 625 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: whomever it is that you owe money to. So frequently 626 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: what people will do, what let me rephrase that, what 627 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: dirt bags will do, is they will pay someone to 628 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: claim to be the winner, so therefore they don't have 629 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: to pay the child support that they owe or the 630 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: taxes that they owe. 631 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 2: For more on the fake lotto scam, here's nbcla new tonight. 632 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 12: Crook's using a fake lottery ticket ploy scammed a woman 633 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 12: in Santa Anna out of forty five thousand dollars. Polease say. 634 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 12: Two women drove up to the victim and claimed they 635 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 12: couldn't cash a two point seven million dollar lottery ticket 636 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 12: because of their immigration status. 637 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 2: Hey, I got three million dollars in my pocket here, 638 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 2: but I can't do anything about it because ice. So 639 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 2: if you give me everything that you have in your house, 640 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 2: I'll let you have this ticket and then we can 641 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 2: split the winning sounds legit. 642 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 4: She fell for it, though they. 643 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 12: Asked for collateral so the women or the woman rather 644 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 12: could cash it for them. Take a look. This is 645 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 12: the vehicle police say the two were in when they 646 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 12: approached that woman and then drove her to her home. 647 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 12: She went inside, got forty five thousand dollars worth of 648 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 12: cash and jewelry. The crooks then took off. 649 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: Seems just about right. 650 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 13: I think sometimes people use the tactic of immigration, but 651 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 13: this has been happening for a really long time, where 652 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 13: oftentimes the suspects tell the. 653 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 2: Vehicle you know, I just got this massive lottery ticket 654 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 2: in my pocket, but I have a warrant. 655 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 4: Can you cash it? 656 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 3: Oh? 657 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 2: And I don't really trust you, so how about you 658 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 2: give me your wallet with all your credit cards so 659 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 2: that way we're on the same page here. 660 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:50,919 Speaker 1: Oh dear. 661 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 13: Oftentimes the suspects tell the victim that they don't have 662 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 13: some type of identification, whether that's a driver's license or 663 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,399 Speaker 13: some type of ID, and so they're a little more 664 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 13: willing to just help out because they think that they're 665 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,760 Speaker 13: going to get a cut of some type of fake 666 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 13: winning that they're going to get. 667 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 2: No legitimate stranger is ever going to cut you into 668 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 2: a lottery ticket, just nope, dop it right there. 669 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: And even illegal aliens know US citizens and if that 670 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: legitimately happened, they would go to someone they trusted and 671 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 1: not to a random stranger. 672 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 12: If you have any information, you're asked to contact Santa 673 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 12: Anna Police. 674 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 2: There you go. Beware of the fake lotto scam.