WEBVTT - Those Are Your Testies?! 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:05.880 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:10.160 George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 0:00:10.340 --> 0:00:11.710 Armstrong and Getty. 0:00:11.869 --> 0:00:17.450 And now, here's Armstrong and Getty. 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:27.800 Later today, both sides are expected to deliver closing arguments, 0:00:27.900 --> 0:00:30.380 and then this case will be in the hands of 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:34.260 a jury. Testimony ended Wednesday after jurors heard from those 0:00:34.260 --> 0:00:38.909 85 different witnesses. The final witness was Dr. Gregory Sadoff, 0:00:38.970 --> 0:00:43.029 a forensic psychiatrist who also works with the FBI's Behavioral 0:00:43.130 --> 0:00:46.050 Analysis Unit. He was on the stand for quite some time. 0:00:46.110 --> 0:00:49.150 Sadoff testified for the prosecution that he believes that she 0:00:49.210 --> 0:00:52.489 was criminally responsible for killing the three children. and that 0:00:52.570 --> 0:00:54.780 she was, in fact, in control of her actions. 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:58.720 We're going to hear more from Dr. Gregory Sadhoff in 0:00:58.780 --> 0:01:02.220 just a minute. So we're on at different times, different places, 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:04.700 and some of you listen on the podcast, so our 0:01:05.220 --> 0:01:07.940 present tense situation gets a little tough. So that said, 0:01:08.050 --> 0:01:10.170 closing arguments are later today. They're going on right now, 0:01:10.569 --> 0:01:13.169 and I think it's interesting that CNN and Fox are 0:01:13.209 --> 0:01:16.030 both taking them live. It looks pretty compelling, so Hanson, 0:01:16.050 --> 0:01:19.589 keep an eye on that if anything dramatic is said today. 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:21.700 We'll get that on the air, and then later in 0:01:21.750 --> 0:01:24.250 the show, we're going to talk to a guy who 0:01:24.270 --> 0:01:27.330 spent his adult life as a judge, actually Katie's dad, 0:01:28.510 --> 0:01:30.610 about some of the decisions that were made in the 0:01:30.650 --> 0:01:34.720 courtroom over the last couple of days and weeks. What 0:01:35.030 --> 0:01:37.220 a compelling story. 0:01:38.620 --> 0:01:41.319 Yeah, I think it goes to some of the most 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:48.560 bedrock fundamentals of human behavior, and when a mother violates... That, 0:01:49.020 --> 0:01:51.460 you know, the bedrock of human behavior and kills her 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:53.840 own children. I think people just they need an explanation. 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:55.100 They need to understand it. 0:01:55.300 --> 0:01:57.460 Some people just so horrifying. Some people just like criminal 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:00.000 trials who don't, which I perfectly understand. Then I think 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:02.220 when the element came along a week or so ago 0:02:02.300 --> 0:02:06.220 that you realize, wow, there are thousands of moms who 0:02:06.260 --> 0:02:08.260 are in support of this woman who killed her kids. 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:11.470 That's a wrinkle that drew a lot of people in. Anyway, 0:02:11.510 --> 0:02:14.490 let's hear from this Dr. Gregory Satoff, who was on 0:02:14.510 --> 0:02:15.369 the stand yesterday. 0:02:15.870 --> 0:02:19.989 Having no instructions as to how to do it, but 0:02:20.090 --> 0:02:24.960 being able to execute those decisions, including being able to 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:29.300 get a phone call and then return it to her 0:02:29.380 --> 0:02:31.940 husband in the process of all of this. Certainly the 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:39.290 phone call was not expected. That is surprising that. She 0:02:39.310 --> 0:02:43.190 was able to accomplish all of this without any other 0:02:43.230 --> 0:02:45.310 kind of direction or plan. 0:02:46.750 --> 0:02:52.340 So he's making the argument that because she planned it, 0:02:52.419 --> 0:02:54.500 sent her husband to the store, knew how long it 0:02:54.540 --> 0:02:57.779 would take to kill the kids, and then it was 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:00.560 interrupted with she had to call him, or he called her, 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:02.930 I guess, and talked to her on the phone for 0:03:02.940 --> 0:03:05.549 a little while, but then she continued with the plan. 0:03:06.220 --> 0:03:09.139 Is more proof that she's not insane? I don't know 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:10.299 what makes you insane or not. 0:03:10.980 --> 0:03:13.540 Yeah, that's one of the building blocks of the case, yeah. 0:03:13.650 --> 0:03:16.950 The other key... Well, I don't want to steal a thunder. 0:03:16.970 --> 0:03:18.829 This next clip might deal with what I was about 0:03:18.870 --> 0:03:19.149 to say. 0:03:19.850 --> 0:03:28.650 Hallucinations, even command hallucinations, when they occur, do not propel... 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:32.510 an individual to automatically obey them. 0:03:32.850 --> 0:03:36.450 Doctor, is it possible for someone who is experiencing psychosis 0:03:36.550 --> 0:03:40.130 and commands hallucinations to conform their behavior to the law? 0:03:40.990 --> 0:03:41.190 Yes. 0:03:42.130 --> 0:03:44.240 That was interesting. So just because you got a voice 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.500 in your head saying, kill your neighbor, kill your neighbor, 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:49.980 that's not good enough. 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:54.420 And they had at least one expert witness say, and 0:03:54.540 --> 0:03:56.920 if you know anything about criminal trials, you know both 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.640 sides trot out experts and often contradict each other. But 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.820 one of the prosecution experts at least said that he 0:04:02.870 --> 0:04:06.270 has never in his entire career dealt with or heard 0:04:06.350 --> 0:04:11.050 of a case where the voice tells you to commit 0:04:11.090 --> 0:04:14.070 an act, kill your neighbor, kill your child, whatever. It 0:04:14.130 --> 0:04:16.530 hadn't been doing that before. And then as soon as 0:04:16.550 --> 0:04:18.450 you do it, it stops. He says that's not the 0:04:18.490 --> 0:04:22.630 way it works. You don't pay off the voice by 0:04:22.730 --> 0:04:24.880 doing what it asks you to do and then it stops. 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:27.680 It doesn't end. 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:29.760 I never thought about that once in my life. That's 0:04:29.779 --> 0:04:30.700 an interesting thought. 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:34.460 He said, that's not a thing. Huh. 0:04:35.620 --> 0:04:38.669 I'll be darned. I'd never considered that. If you do 0:04:38.710 --> 0:04:40.650 what the voice tells you to do, are you like 0:04:40.750 --> 0:04:42.770 out of the woods then? No, you continue to be. 0:04:44.029 --> 0:04:45.970 If you have voices talking to you, you continue to 0:04:46.010 --> 0:04:47.690 be that level of crazy. Of course you would. 0:04:48.260 --> 0:04:51.479 Because they're not actual voices. They're your brain. Good point. 0:04:51.540 --> 0:04:53.760 Which is diseased. Good point. 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:56.760 Now we get into some of the good talk radio 0:04:56.820 --> 0:04:59.820 stuff of why and how many people think she should 0:04:59.880 --> 0:05:01.810 be going to jail as a murderer or not. 0:05:02.990 --> 0:05:07.330 The majority of people believe that Lindsay Clancy is not 0:05:07.410 --> 0:05:09.610 criminally responsible. If you asked me this a month ago, 0:05:09.710 --> 0:05:10.770 I would have said you're crazy. 0:05:11.150 --> 0:05:15.510 Yeah, but so you think that the insanity defense is 0:05:15.529 --> 0:05:16.690 going to work? I do. 0:05:16.730 --> 0:05:18.950 I'm going to shoot my shot, go on record and say, 0:05:19.170 --> 0:05:22.550 I think Lindsey Clancy will be acquitted or there's a 0:05:22.550 --> 0:05:24.050 possibility of a hung jury, but it's going to be 0:05:24.170 --> 0:05:26.230 significantly in favor of the defense. 0:05:26.270 --> 0:05:30.130 Maybe a few holdouts for the prosecution. Yeah, maybe. 0:05:30.150 --> 0:05:32.420 Because the public opinion has turned? 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:36.480 I don't know. You got some dipstick lawyer on CNN 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:37.599 or whatever. 0:05:39.190 --> 0:05:41.589 Well, it's interesting on its own that public opinion is turned. 0:05:42.170 --> 0:05:45.080 So as information is seeped out into the country, a 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.760 majority of people now think, poor woman was crazy, couldn't 0:05:47.779 --> 0:05:50.240 get the help she deserved, there but for the grace of. 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.560 God, etc. Huh. 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:56.060 Does that mean we're compassionate people, or are we really 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:56.740 off the rails? 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:00.340 I think we're a people that's gone from thinking about 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:03.760 mental illness too little to a society that thinks about 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:05.460 it too much, honestly. 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.909 And That's a good point right there. If you were 0:06:08.930 --> 0:06:11.390 going to say, have we gone too far down the 0:06:11.450 --> 0:06:18.940 road for excusing bad grades, bad workers, bad parenting, bad everything? 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:22.279 Have we gone too far down the road of excusing 0:06:23.060 --> 0:06:26.820 all sorts of behavior because you got this or that diagnosis? 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:32.170 Of course we have. Or, yeah, self-diagnosis even. Yeah, Bethany 0:06:32.210 --> 0:06:35.219 Mandel wrote a great piece published in the New York Post, um, 0:06:35.670 --> 0:06:38.950 Toxic mom rage is TikTok's latest trend, and it's making 0:06:39.010 --> 0:06:42.860 the moms even more miserable. I'll just hit you with 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:45.080 part of it. First generation of women to be raised 0:06:45.140 --> 0:06:48.600 in the therapeutic culture that eventually gave us gentle parenting 0:06:48.940 --> 0:06:51.599 is now raising children of their own. Judging by the 0:06:51.620 --> 0:06:54.990 reaction to the Lindsay Clancy trial, it's not going well. 0:06:55.350 --> 0:06:59.010 These mothers were taught to analyze every negative emotion they experience, 0:06:59.310 --> 0:07:02.210 turning even the least discomfort over in every direction to 0:07:02.310 --> 0:07:05.660 analyze and dissect it. This mindset teaches you that sadness 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:08.599 isn't something you shake off and anxiety isn't something you 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:12.940 push through. Instead of encouraging resilience, its adherents believe that 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:20.650 every unpleasant experience requires extensive processing. Then she says these 0:07:20.710 --> 0:07:22.570 moms are attempting to raise their own children according to 0:07:22.590 --> 0:07:27.730 the same philosophy, endlessly validating feelings, negotiating arbitrary boundaries, and 0:07:27.830 --> 0:07:30.970 striving to regulate the emotions of tiny people who possess 0:07:31.010 --> 0:07:34.330 neither reason nor impulse control. But, you know, in their 0:07:34.390 --> 0:07:39.350 own lives, it's the never ending, just the navel gazing. 0:07:40.370 --> 0:07:42.390 I know that I'm not the only parent that has 0:07:42.570 --> 0:07:47.430 dealt with this situation where you got a kid struggling 0:07:47.530 --> 0:07:52.110 with the world. Then they get a diagnosis of anxiety 0:07:52.150 --> 0:07:55.670 or something like that. And you feel incredible guilt for 0:07:55.710 --> 0:07:59.430 trying to force them through situations that where they've got 0:07:59.470 --> 0:08:03.060 a diagnosis, then you land at a point, maybe somewhere 0:08:03.070 --> 0:08:07.380 where you realize, well, maybe I've gone too far in like, 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:09.960 just not saying, okay, yeah, it's hard for everybody. Get 0:08:10.020 --> 0:08:11.880 out there and do it. But I can, I feel that, 0:08:11.900 --> 0:08:15.740 you know, you got to do it anyway. So trying 0:08:15.790 --> 0:08:17.750 to figure out where you are on that as a 0:08:17.790 --> 0:08:20.910 parent is really hard. But I think in general, we've 0:08:20.930 --> 0:08:22.830 gone too far down the road of, no, you don't 0:08:22.850 --> 0:08:24.870 have to do what other human beings have had to 0:08:24.910 --> 0:08:27.270 do throughout history because you've got this diagnosis. 0:08:27.970 --> 0:08:34.360 Right, exactly. Yeah, I would agree. Boy, it's just society 0:08:34.580 --> 0:08:39.520 swerving from guardrail to guardrail once again, from overdoing it 0:08:39.540 --> 0:08:41.300 in one direction to overdoing it in the other, to 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:44.780 the point that, and plus you have the always insidious, 0:08:45.059 --> 0:08:50.679 evil effect of social media, where women set up their 0:08:50.900 --> 0:08:55.760 ring light and their camera and stage a performative fit 0:08:56.760 --> 0:09:01.050 to get lots of sympathetic likes from other people and 0:09:01.090 --> 0:09:04.130 have their angst validated and the rest of it. But 0:09:04.190 --> 0:09:07.349 it's all performative. I don't know. 0:09:08.410 --> 0:09:16.220 In the terms of being too coddling of excuses for behavior, 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:22.420 I always think of Christopher Hitchens, the thinker journalist in 0:09:22.500 --> 0:09:26.410 his autobiography, wrote a lot about his childhood at boarding 0:09:26.470 --> 0:09:30.610 schools where he was regularly sexually abused, beaten and bullied. 0:09:30.630 --> 0:09:35.030 It was part of the whole life for privileged or 0:09:35.150 --> 0:09:40.280 super smart kids in England for hundreds of years. You 0:09:40.300 --> 0:09:42.660 go into your parents sent you off to this expensive 0:09:42.740 --> 0:09:44.920 school and you were going to be sexually abused by 0:09:44.980 --> 0:09:51.030 their kids, beaten up and bullied. And his conclusion as 0:09:51.130 --> 0:09:54.630 a 50 something looking back on it was our society 0:09:54.670 --> 0:09:56.770 was better off when that was going on than it 0:09:56.870 --> 0:09:59.450 is now, which I think is. 0:09:59.309 --> 0:09:59.970 Really, really interesting. 0:10:00.770 --> 0:10:02.720 And the reason i brought that up was i think 0:10:02.750 --> 0:10:05.160 about times in my life if i had grown up 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:10.120 in the 2000s instead of the 70s and various situations 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:12.679 where i'd tell my mom you know i can't do 0:10:12.700 --> 0:10:14.120 that or i can't do that or whatever if she'd 0:10:14.140 --> 0:10:17.359 said you're right you're too you've got anxiety or you've 0:10:17.380 --> 0:10:19.000 got this or that you don't have to do it 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:21.679 if I would have been better off or worse off 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:24.920 than when I was just forced to power through various situations. 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:28.580 And it's not even a close call as to which 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:31.450 would have been better for me, even though it was 0:10:31.490 --> 0:10:34.510 incredibly miserable and painful at the time to have to 0:10:34.550 --> 0:10:37.230 power through various situations is the kind of kid I was. 0:10:37.750 --> 0:10:40.970 And I've never had a diagnosis of anything, but, um, but, 0:10:41.150 --> 0:10:43.290 but by, but by modern standards, I think I could 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:45.640 have easily gotten diagnosed with some sort of, I don't know, 0:10:45.700 --> 0:10:50.199 ultra shy disease or whatever the hell, um, And I 0:10:50.220 --> 0:10:54.850 was better off being forced to suck it up and 0:10:54.890 --> 0:10:58.090 deal with it and endure the pain. There's no doubt 0:10:58.150 --> 0:10:59.210 about it in my mind. 0:10:59.230 --> 0:11:03.880 Yeah, this editorialist used the term resilience earlier. And I 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:06.939 remember when the, I guess it was a giant study 0:11:06.980 --> 0:11:11.420 of success among children. And they identified resilience as the 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:16.050 number one most important characteristic. for success and we are 0:11:16.110 --> 0:11:17.970 teaching our kids out of it. 0:11:18.150 --> 0:11:20.230 I think about that word all the time because i 0:11:20.270 --> 0:11:22.390 have i have a friend who said uh years ago 0:11:22.460 --> 0:11:25.240 before i was i was a parent but my kids 0:11:25.260 --> 0:11:26.900 are still little he said my number one thing is 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:28.820 because his kids were like high school college ages to 0:11:28.900 --> 0:11:30.939 try to make them more resilient some of them aren't 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:32.760 i thought wow that's a good one that is a 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:35.340 good word that is the thing i like to think 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:37.329 about with my kids i want to make them resilient 0:11:37.570 --> 0:11:41.630 for whatever relationships that don't work out jerk teachers or 0:11:41.670 --> 0:11:43.490 bosses all those different sorts. 0:11:43.350 --> 0:11:46.300 Of things Social media does exactly the opposite. I want 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:49.000 to dip a little more into Megan's piece here because 0:11:49.020 --> 0:11:51.280 I think it's absolutely terrific after the break. 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:51.520 Cool. 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:53.480 If you have any thoughts on it, text line 415-295-KFTC. 0:11:53.780 --> 0:11:55.800 Armstrong and Getty. 0:11:57.179 --> 0:12:09.930 The Armstrong and Getty Show. 0:12:13.410 --> 0:12:15.590 We got this text on the topic we've been on. 0:12:16.090 --> 0:12:18.350 I'm a teacher and I have a daughter and they 0:12:18.370 --> 0:12:19.150 are all pansies. 0:12:20.770 --> 0:12:25.600 Interesting. Succinct and powerful. So if you don't know what 0:12:25.620 --> 0:12:28.100 we're talking about, grab it by podcast, Armstrong and Getty 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:33.420 on demand, Lindsay Clancy trial, uh, moms, uh, convincing each 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:37.940 other that, uh, motherhood is misery, social media, et cetera. Um, 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:42.350 And I like this piece written by, I like to 0:12:42.380 --> 0:12:47.150 give credit where it's due. I think it's ethical. Let's see. 0:12:47.210 --> 0:12:56.270 Bethany Mandel. Anyway, back to Bethany's wisdom. Sales of tripods. Oh, 0:12:56.390 --> 0:13:00.910 here it is. And she describes how women hurl ice 0:13:00.970 --> 0:13:04.170 cubes into bathtubs to vent their frustration about their child's 0:13:04.309 --> 0:13:07.450 tantrums without a hint of irony. They filmed themselves crying 0:13:07.490 --> 0:13:11.350 in rocking chairs, pantries, and parked cars about exhaustion, cleanup, 0:13:11.410 --> 0:13:14.010 and laundry. One woman even set up a camera to 0:13:14.070 --> 0:13:17.109 film herself reacting to her child tripping over an iced 0:13:17.190 --> 0:13:19.090 coffee she had set up in the middle of the 0:13:19.110 --> 0:13:22.750 playroom floor. Then they spent more precious minutes editing the 0:13:22.790 --> 0:13:26.939 footage into 30-second TikToks, lamenting the crushing difficulty of their lives. 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:29.579 Instead of taking the walk around the block or catching 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:32.220 that 15-minute nap, they could have reset their brains and 0:13:32.260 --> 0:13:36.120 turned the day around. This is therapy culture as performance art. 0:13:36.500 --> 0:13:39.220 It's every bit as melodramatic and overwrought as you'd imagine 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:42.060 it to be, and it's making women ever more miserable. 0:13:43.179 --> 0:13:46.480 And here's where it really gets to the point. Nobody 0:13:46.540 --> 0:13:49.420 goes viral saying, my toddler had a tantrum today, but 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.300 I ignored it and made dinner. There are clicks, however, 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:56.020 in announcing that you are touched out, triggered, dysregulated, and 0:13:56.100 --> 0:13:59.020 drowning under the invisible emotional labor of motherhood. 0:14:00.070 --> 0:14:01.490 Well, and I remember when we were talking about this 0:14:01.510 --> 0:14:05.550 the other day, one of my thoughts was, how long 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:08.460 did it take you to capture this video, edit it, 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:11.459 get it on TikTok? You're so beleaguered taking care of 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:13.480 your little kids. What the hell's going on there? 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:14.660 Right. 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:15.220 Yeah. 0:14:15.420 --> 0:14:15.640 Yeah. 0:14:15.700 --> 0:14:16.120 It's just. 0:14:18.809 --> 0:14:21.590 You would have been embarrassed not very many years ago 0:14:21.650 --> 0:14:24.610 as a mom or a dad to say, I can't 0:14:24.670 --> 0:14:28.890 handle this. It's more than I can handle over mundane stuff. 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:32.640 Like that has happened since the dawn of time with 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.280 raising a kid. I mean, you would have been embarrassed 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:37.550 to put that out and everybody would have felt bad 0:14:37.670 --> 0:14:40.190 for you. Like, ooh, that's kind of embarrassing that that 0:14:40.250 --> 0:14:43.990 person is so distraught over a minor tantrum every kid 0:14:44.050 --> 0:14:47.050 throws that they have to claim they're, you know, they're 0:14:47.070 --> 0:14:47.690 falling apart. 0:14:48.170 --> 0:14:50.990 Or being sleep deprived. Toughen up, buttercup. Would have been 0:14:51.010 --> 0:14:53.790 the message like for the entirety of humanity till social media. 0:14:54.030 --> 0:14:55.770 But one of the most interesting things I've learned about 0:14:55.810 --> 0:14:58.140 human beings in the last several years is is how 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:02.540 many folks view everything that happens to them and what 0:15:02.580 --> 0:15:05.600 they say, what they express, not through the lens of 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:10.780 truth or objective, you know, it being the right thing, 0:15:11.140 --> 0:15:14.660 but through the lens of acceptance. And if you can 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:18.480 give people acceptance, they will spout the most inane and 0:15:18.540 --> 0:15:22.260 ridiculous things if they get social reinforcement for it. 0:15:23.130 --> 0:15:26.510 Not understanding that a lot of the enforcement might be from... 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:31.080 crazy people or people who are, you know, not, it's 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:34.420 not the, it's not the normal crowd that's reacting to, 0:15:34.460 --> 0:15:36.300 you know, a positive way, but it doesn't matter. 0:15:36.620 --> 0:15:40.140 You just. So speaking of wisdom, Arthur Brooks, who writes 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.500 a lot about happiness and unhappiness for the free press. 0:15:42.570 --> 0:15:44.860 And he's a professor who writes books and stuff. Uh, 0:15:44.910 --> 0:15:47.390 one of his more recent columns is, uh, beware the 0:15:47.430 --> 0:15:50.950 Facebook parents group. Do using these groups make your kids' 0:15:50.990 --> 0:15:53.610 lives better? What about your own? The answer I'm afraid 0:15:53.630 --> 0:15:56.930 to say is no. And they've done studies of this. 0:15:57.780 --> 0:16:01.140 These millions of forums exist online from Reddit threads to 0:16:01.180 --> 0:16:03.900 private Facebook groups where parents communicate with one another about 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.660 how to raise their kids. Some focus on tips for 0:16:06.710 --> 0:16:08.870 parents of new babies, but a very common type is 0:16:08.910 --> 0:16:11.750 populated by parents of young adults going off to college. 0:16:12.610 --> 0:16:17.390 And you've got helicopter moms who continue their helicoptering and 0:16:18.090 --> 0:16:22.880 trade tips on dorm wall paint colors, how to complain 0:16:22.910 --> 0:16:25.080 to the dean if their child gets a bad grade, 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:28.859 the brand of soap in the bathroom. How you can 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:30.880 door dash essentials to your child. 0:16:31.180 --> 0:16:33.320 I guarantee you, my parents did not know what kind 0:16:33.340 --> 0:16:35.220 of soap I was using when I was 20 years old. 0:16:36.340 --> 0:16:39.780 Just all just obsession with every detail of their now 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:41.600 adult children's lives. 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:44.850 And it's all just unhealthy. 0:16:45.420 --> 0:16:49.690 And he goes back to the I'm summarizing very, very quickly, though, 0:16:49.830 --> 0:16:52.130 brings me back to my audience members question. Does using 0:16:52.190 --> 0:16:54.790 these groups make your kids lives better? What about your own? 0:16:54.810 --> 0:16:58.560 The answer, I'm afraid, is no. And he goes into 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:02.040 a bunch of research and then a study in the 0:17:02.090 --> 0:17:08.510 journal Biological Psychology. And it's absolutely terrible, terrible, all this stuff. 0:17:11.010 --> 0:17:14.230 The discussion that comes out of the result of this trial, 0:17:14.390 --> 0:17:16.830 the Clancy trial, which we might get, you know, any 0:17:16.869 --> 0:17:19.990 day now, is going to be quite the national conversation, 0:17:20.010 --> 0:17:23.540 I'm guessing, especially if she gets some sort of lighter sentence. 0:17:25.180 --> 0:17:28.389 for having killed all three kids. We'll be talking about it. 0:17:29.350 --> 0:17:36.750 Armstrong and Getty. The Armstrong and Getty Show. 0:17:40.550 --> 0:17:43.709 The FDA approved that groundbreaking new drug, the one to 0:17:43.750 --> 0:17:47.490 treat pancreatic cancer. Patients taking the daily pills live nearly 0:17:47.609 --> 0:17:51.169 twice as long as people treated with chemotherapy alone, according 0:17:51.190 --> 0:17:51.850 to the researchers. 0:17:52.540 --> 0:17:56.280 Huge breakthrough in the worst cancer diagnosis you can get. 0:17:56.700 --> 0:17:59.380 Pancreatic cancer, which often, you know, you got four weeks 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:01.440 to live, which is about as horrific as anything could be. 0:18:02.859 --> 0:18:04.280 Now they got a drug that's going to help that 0:18:04.300 --> 0:18:06.760 a lot. Is that the thing Ben Sasse is on 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:08.500 where he announced, you know, I'm going to be dead 0:18:08.540 --> 0:18:11.080 in a month and he's still kicking six months later? 0:18:12.700 --> 0:18:17.850 Gosh, unless there are multiple miracle saviors for pancreatic cancer 0:18:17.930 --> 0:18:20.030 on the market right now, and there might be a couple, 0:18:20.050 --> 0:18:20.939 but I don't know. 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:26.929 Maybe with AI, this is the much touted positive spin 0:18:26.990 --> 0:18:29.429 of AI ever, is that all the medical breakthroughs it 0:18:29.450 --> 0:18:31.170 can get. I hope we start hearing tons of those 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:33.820 when AI gets going. On the other hand, Mark Halpern 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:37.340 writes today, AI is now the biggest threat to America. 0:18:37.540 --> 0:18:40.300 And we'll get into that a little bit later. It's really, 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:42.530 really interesting. I look forward to talking about that. 0:18:43.050 --> 0:18:44.810 Yeah, I've got the perfect story to go with it. 0:18:44.810 --> 0:18:47.350 The long and short of it is that those AI 0:18:47.450 --> 0:18:50.650 detectors that they can identify, that book was 30% AI 0:18:50.750 --> 0:18:55.890 or that magazine article, blah, blah, blah. They're notoriously inaccurate. 0:18:55.910 --> 0:18:56.130 Shocking. 0:18:56.150 --> 0:18:59.040 And a lot of people are getting impugned unfairly. Shocking. 0:19:00.460 --> 0:19:04.340 I am going to step into the, there's no winning 0:19:04.380 --> 0:19:09.409 in this conversation. Everybody will end up angry territory. Of 0:19:09.630 --> 0:19:10.910 autism diagnoses. 0:19:11.530 --> 0:19:12.530 Oh, super. 0:19:12.630 --> 0:19:15.600 But there is a new Swedish study out that if 0:19:15.710 --> 0:19:22.020 this is true, the shocking rise in autism, at least 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:29.460 this century since 2000, has been mostly the mild kind. 0:19:30.830 --> 0:19:32.830 As we all know, it's a spectrum and, you know, 0:19:32.869 --> 0:19:35.369 you can you can be autistic. I have a friend 0:19:35.710 --> 0:19:39.290 who's a mom who has four autistic kids. ranging from 0:19:39.750 --> 0:19:44.450 quite mild to very disabled. And, you know, so autistic 0:19:44.450 --> 0:19:48.210 is not autistic. It's it's it's not a one word thing. 0:19:48.710 --> 0:19:51.450 You really need to know to what level. Well, according 0:19:51.470 --> 0:19:55.260 to this new, very large Swedish study that's getting a 0:19:55.300 --> 0:20:00.780 lot of attention. The with intellectual disability, in other words, 0:20:00.820 --> 0:20:03.520 you it really makes it difficult for you to to 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:06.520 learn and function in the world has stayed pretty flat 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:12.580 this century. The without intellectual disability has gone up a lot. 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:18.240 All the increase is the without intellectual disability, autism. So, 0:20:19.050 --> 0:20:21.550 you know, take that for what it's worth. All studies 0:20:21.609 --> 0:20:25.540 need to be verified or not over time. And then 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:28.680 what does that mean for our view of what autistic means? 0:20:31.890 --> 0:20:34.510 We're so early in the understanding of all this stuff. 0:20:34.910 --> 0:20:35.790 Oh, hell yeah. 0:20:36.410 --> 0:20:38.210 Yeah, I do. I, for one, as a parent of 0:20:38.250 --> 0:20:41.770 an autistic child, am not offended or angered by your 0:20:41.790 --> 0:20:45.270 bringing us that story. It's very interesting, thought-provoking, and all 0:20:45.290 --> 0:20:48.290 the questions still remain. What the hell is behind it 0:20:48.369 --> 0:20:52.870 in the first place? Why the increases at all? What 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:56.169 does it mean? Is one place on the spectrum actually 0:20:56.230 --> 0:20:59.129 distinct from another one? Is it a different thing that 0:20:59.150 --> 0:21:01.830 just looks similar? I don't know. I wish I knew. 0:21:03.190 --> 0:21:03.590 That's a good one. 0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:04.210 We have a lot to know. 0:21:08.340 --> 0:21:10.600 Wanted to get into this a little bit later. Maybe 0:21:10.619 --> 0:21:14.180 we'll play some of the audio. The body cam footage 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:18.200 came out for Jed York, the owner of the San 0:21:18.220 --> 0:21:22.920 Francisco 49ers, soliciting prostitution. And it made every newscast in America. 0:21:22.940 --> 0:21:25.520 And I tweeted out the link to it and said, 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:27.900 do we think this is a good idea? I wish 0:21:27.940 --> 0:21:32.240 we'd figure this out. You committed a misdemeanor crime that 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:36.680 is like a $ 900 fine and you get nationally embarrassed 0:21:37.140 --> 0:21:39.540 along with it. Does that make sense as a punishment? 0:21:39.960 --> 0:21:45.280 Because it was about sex. Yeah, I know. I'm not 0:21:45.300 --> 0:21:47.580 comfortable with that. I have no interest in seeing that. 0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:48.580 I can picture it. 0:21:48.980 --> 0:21:53.520 Yeah, it is incredibly embarrassing. He committed a minor crime. 0:21:54.859 --> 0:21:59.300 Should you be nationally embarrassed among your friends, family, kids, 0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:04.590 everything for all eternity for a misdemeanor with a minor fine? 0:22:06.290 --> 0:22:07.950 We ought to make a decision on that. 0:22:08.510 --> 0:22:11.050 Well, I don't know if... This is not an argument 0:22:11.070 --> 0:22:14.070 in either direction, but it's clearly the downside of the 0:22:14.109 --> 0:22:18.210 transparency of our law enforcement system and our justice system 0:22:18.250 --> 0:22:23.570 in general. If I have the right to observe to 0:22:23.609 --> 0:22:28.189 make sure no cops are beating down suspects, I suppose 0:22:28.250 --> 0:22:30.840 I have the right to see Jed York being read 0:22:30.890 --> 0:22:33.159 as Miranda writes as he rolls his eyes. And I 0:22:33.180 --> 0:22:35.100 don't know if he rolled his eyes or not. I 0:22:35.140 --> 0:22:35.540