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Speaker 1: the John Phillips Show, Mister Randy Waggings Across the Glass John,

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I guess he doesn't have to imagine what

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Speaker 1: David Hasselhoff looks like naked. Eight hundred two two two

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Speaker 1: hundred two two two five two two two. California Governor

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Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom has told state employees that it's time to

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Speaker 1: come back to the office. No more hang it out

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Speaker 2: Right now?

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Speaker 1: State employees are working two to three days a week

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Speaker 1: state workers are saying, a whole bunch of these people

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Speaker 1: the upcoming return to work order on July first, here's

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Speaker 1: a report from ABC ten in Sacramento.

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Speaker 2: Right there we go.

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Speaker 1: We are just a week away from the start of

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Speaker 1: the return to office mandate. Keep in mind of impacts

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Speaker 1: at least one hundred thousand state employees.

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Speaker 3: Starting July first, most state workers, you must work in

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Speaker 2: ABC ten State Matters political reporter.

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Speaker 1: Can I get that deal? I'll just take one day

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Speaker 1: has the latest on the debate.

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Speaker 4: Remember this was already delayed from last year because of

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Speaker 4: the back and forth between state workers and the governor.

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Speaker 4: We talked to state employees.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny if you remember when we first

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Speaker 1: started this version of the show in January of twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: that was your deal you were going to work from

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Speaker 1: the last what five six years? At this point in

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Speaker 1: their defense, they're big fat ass is so big, I

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Speaker 1: We get have thousand pound state employees. Well, especially for

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Speaker 4: Is labor unions, the governor and political insiders. What could

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Speaker 5: What's going to be chaotic is the uncertainty of how

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Speaker 6: The clock is ticking. Governor Newsom's return to office mandate,

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Speaker 7: We don't need to be in office for four days

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Speaker 1: That is what happened when so many companies went back

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Speaker 6: Forrest Hansen, a state scientist with the Department of Water Recare,

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Speaker 1: And that's a lot of increased expenses. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: I think that that's part of it. I was just

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Speaker 2: They were all there.

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Speaker 1: No one was eating at the restaurants in downtown Sacramento.

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Speaker 7: But the idea that like state workers, are responsible to

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Speaker 1: You know, if the state really wanted to make sure

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Speaker 6: The newsom's main point revitalized.

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Speaker 1: If you're wondering if I'm biased in this story, I am.

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Speaker 1: I freaking hate commuting.

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Speaker 2: I can tell downtown.

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Speaker 8: We got to get these downtowns moving again, had a

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Speaker 9: Be nice to see you again.

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Speaker 1: This clip goes everywhere and it's so annoying. The reason

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Speaker 1: is for collaboration. No, no, no, no no. The reason

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Speaker 2: That's not what people do. Now.

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Speaker 1: What they do is they gossip about other employees.

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Speaker 9: Nice to see you again, Nice to run into you

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Speaker 6: Yet the pushbar from state workers and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, that's not what happens. It's hey, did you

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: Can you believe that you know what all of this

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Speaker 1: be did you already get crapped out? Oh no, it

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Speaker 1: happened again. This is going to be so easy, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: Now, we have tried switching out the computer and that

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Speaker 1: it could be let me turn you off there, you

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Speaker 1: couldn't hear me anymore? Is that what happened? I could

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Speaker 1: easier to transition. Let's get back to the story where

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Speaker 2: It doesn't look good.

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Speaker 10: So the administration is holding firm on the mandate.

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Speaker 6: SEIU Local one thousand is the largest union of California

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Speaker 6: State Workers. President Anika Wall's warns of something like a

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Speaker 6: all mandate, telework should be a case by case discussion

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Speaker 10: There's a lot of baby boomers that are at the

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Speaker 11: And do you feel like this telews.

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Speaker 2: I've never heard of that one, the silver tsunami.

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Speaker 1: That sounds like what an elderly person would put as

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Speaker 4: Or debate affects Governor Newsom's relationship with labor unions like yourself.

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Speaker 10: I absolutely think that actions right speak louder than words.

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Speaker 5: Two words, lame duck.

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Speaker 1: You know what this is about. He's running for president

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Speaker 1: and he does not want video of empty California downtowns

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Speaker 1: He've also pissed off the SCIU Healthcare union by not

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Speaker 5: There's no more risk for him in terms of challenging

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Speaker 10: They are right. If they're in one place, it's very

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Speaker 1: There's nothing like taking every piece of clothing that you've

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Speaker 1: Now, if you're a union person that really doesn't want

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Speaker 10: Let's do what's necessary and make sure that are earned.

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Speaker 10: Welllease stay safe and that they're you know, when they

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Speaker 1: Creepy crawlers causing concern. Now there's some alliteration for you.

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Speaker 1: How often do state offices get infected with bed bugs?

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Speaker 10: And when the decision is made to, you know, have

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Speaker 3: Most state agencies are returning to the office four days

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Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.

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Speaker 1: If it's infected with bed bugs, why are they there

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Speaker 1: Okay, here's the argument I would make if I was

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Speaker 11: Now.

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Speaker 3: We also reached out to a local pest control agency.

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Speaker 2: And you know, and I want to do right now.

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Speaker 1: I want to find out how much money the state

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Speaker 1: And the first edition of today's blotter involves the lifeguard

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Speaker 1: would you immediately go to management and notify them, or

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Speaker 1: would you play it up for the camera, Because, let's

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Speaker 1: face it, if you're gonna end up on OnlyFans, why

444
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Speaker 1: not look good give them a show?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

446
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Speaker 1: Well, I do fancy myself a star, although if the

447
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Speaker 1: creep who put this camera in there saw me in there,

448
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: the camera might break. For more on this crazy story,

449
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Speaker 1: here is CBS LA the.

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Speaker 11: Night's stunning charges leveled against a former SoCal Parks superintendent.

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Speaker 1: As cbsla's Michelle g Boy, what can't the park's employees

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Speaker 1: do at the state They can help burn down the palisades,

453
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Speaker 1: and they can secretly tape the lifeguards.

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Speaker 2: Many talents.

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Speaker 1: Billy tells us not only is he accused of secretly

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Speaker 1: recording lifeguards as they changed, but also of sharing the

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Speaker 1: images with friends.

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Speaker 4: We're experiencing.

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Speaker 11: Serious criminal charges have.

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Speaker 1: Been you know what, I think The only Fans page

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Speaker 1: was called What's that? The undertill.

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Speaker 11: In Orange County against a former high ranking California State

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Speaker 11: Park superintendent, Kevin Pearsall, is accused of secretly recording nearly

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Speaker 11: two dozen male employees, including lifeguards, in a locker room

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Speaker 11: at headquarters.

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Speaker 1: I do not understand this kink. There is literally endless

467
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Speaker 1: pornography of anything that you're into on your phone. Why

468
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Speaker 1: do you got to film your own Well, some people

469
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Speaker 1: like to buy their vegetables at the grocery store, and

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Speaker 1: some people like to have their own garden.

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Speaker 11: Bolsa, Chica State Beach officials say he shared some of

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Speaker 11: the nude images with friends.

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Speaker 2: These employees, Okay, what was going on on that group? Chat. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that had to be while intoxicated.

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Speaker 1: Now, Apple does have that new feature where you can

476
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Speaker 1: take your group chat with a group of friends and

477
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Speaker 1: you can change the name. Do you think the name

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Speaker 1: of that group chat was egg plan?

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Speaker 13: Emoji could be an expectation of privacy, and that expectation

480
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Speaker 13: of privacy was completely violated by somebody who they were

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Speaker 13: supposed to be trusting.

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Speaker 11: According to the DA, a State park officer found a

483
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Speaker 11: USB stick behind me here inside of the men's locker

484
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Speaker 11: room last summer at Bosachika State Beach. It included allegedly

485
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Speaker 11: videos of state employees undressing. The CHP investigated the case

486
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Speaker 11: and found cameras inside of that locker room that were

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Speaker 11: recording video and audio for nearly a year.

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Speaker 1: People wonder if they had better cameras than we do.

489
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Speaker 1: I guarantee his fee didn't crap out after an hour

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Speaker 1: and a half.

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Speaker 2: He had his up for a year. We'll have no

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Speaker 2: regard for other people. It's sad, it's disgusting.

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Speaker 11: Pearsall, who is fifty nine from Long Beach, retired last

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Speaker 11: July after he was placed on administrative leave during the investigation.

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Speaker 11: He's been charged with five felony counts of eavesdropping.

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Speaker 2: Now here's a question.

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Speaker 1: You're placed on leave, but you retire, but now you're

498
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Speaker 1: being charged with felonies. Do you keep that pension? You

499
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Speaker 1: probably do? Didn't Mark Burnt keep his at LAUSD.

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Speaker 11: Twenty three misdemeanor counts of secretly filming and three misdemeanor

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Speaker 11: counts of unlawful dissemination of private recordings.

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Speaker 13: Parsaul is charged with then distributing some of those images,

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Speaker 13: involving at least three individuals in various stage of dress,

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Speaker 13: and then making sexually graphic comments about his employee's physical attributes.

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Speaker 11: State Park said in a statement that as soon as

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Speaker 11: the allegations came to light, an investigation was requested. Quote

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Speaker 11: California State Parks takes these charges very seriously and is

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Speaker 11: fully cooperated with law enforcement through every step of the investigation. Piercell,

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Speaker 11: if convicted, faces a maximum of eighteen years eight months

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Speaker 11: in prison in Huntington Beach. Michelle Jeey CBSLA.

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Speaker 1: So there you go. If you were ever dressing or

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Speaker 1: undressing it, Balsa Chica. This guy has footage of you.

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Speaker 1: How do you think he got caught? Do you think

514
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Speaker 1: someone identified one of the recording devices or do you

515
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Speaker 1: think someone who showed the pictures to tattled.

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Speaker 2: What if?

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Speaker 1: And again, we don't know if these got distributed to

518
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Speaker 1: any website or something. But let's say they got distributed

519
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: to like a thread on Reddit and you're flipping through

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00:27:58,840 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: it and you're like.

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Speaker 2: Wait, that's me.

522
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: So you think he was sending the images to text

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Speaker 1: groups and not showing people in person with a cell phone.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine that's what he was doing. It's very

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Speaker 1: easy to send photos on these groups. Now, what is

526
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Speaker 1: said in the story is that this was discovered because

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Speaker 1: somebody noticed the USB drive in the locker room plugged

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Speaker 1: into the cameras.

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Speaker 2: See what I'm.

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Speaker 1: Picturing is this guy getting obliterated brunch, pulling out his

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Speaker 1: iPhone and going, hey, take a look at this snorkel.

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Speaker 1: That's also a possibility. I guess all right, Randy, it's

533
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Speaker 1: time to reopen the blotterer.

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Speaker 9: It's happened yet again.

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Speaker 2: This wow, wow, what's up here? Dun dun dun dunk

536
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Speaker 2: dundu dun dun dun dun reached the Califonia Crime Blodder.

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Speaker 9: With John.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: This next one is a tale as old as time.

540
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: Elderly people getting scammed over the phone. This time it

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Speaker 1: was an eighty one year old man who was told

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Speaker 1: by people pretending to be PG and E that he

543
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Speaker 1: owed them a bunch of money, had to pay in

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Speaker 1: cash at a seven to eleven or his power was

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Speaker 1: getting shut off. Good luck with that. From more on

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Speaker 1: this here is NBC in the Bay.

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Speaker 14: Tom Schneck says he can't believe it happened to him.

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00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 14: On his eighty seventh birthday, a man pretending to be

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Speaker 14: with PG and D called his cell phone.

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Speaker 8: He said, well, somebody's on the way to shut off

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Speaker 8: your service, but we can stop him if you pay

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Speaker 8: right now.

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Speaker 2: Ever heard a bitcoin?

554
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Speaker 8: I said, how do I pay? And he said, well,

555
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Speaker 8: we accept only cash. No credit cards, no debit cards,

556
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Speaker 8: only cash.

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Speaker 1: There's your first red flag. We want to make sure

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Speaker 1: that the way that you pay the utility company is

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Speaker 1: with nothing that's traceable. Yes, because that's how PG and

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Speaker 1: HE gets paid in seven eleven parking lot transactions.

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Speaker 9: At one of our authorized payment centers.

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Speaker 14: Tom was confused and drove to the bank to pull cash.

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Speaker 14: The caller stayed on the phone with him and said

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Speaker 14: this seven eleven on Alma then Expressway in San Jose was.

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Speaker 2: That's your other red flag.

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Speaker 1: These people are always like, oh, I'll just stay on the

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Speaker 1: phone with you while you drive to go get the

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Speaker 1: money and then take it to the place. Let's make

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Speaker 1: sure we're on the phone together the entire time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: no unionized employee is going to do that.

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Speaker 14: It's one of the centers where he can pay seven

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Speaker 14: eleven serves as a pick.

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Speaker 1: You know what I would do, And I never answer

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Speaker 1: the phone, so this is never going to happen to me.

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Speaker 1: But let's say it does. And I obviously realized that

576
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Speaker 1: someone's scamming me, and they're like, I need to stay

577
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Speaker 1: on the phone with you while you go and take

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Speaker 1: out the money. I'd say, sure, I'll get right on that,

579
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Speaker 1: but I was just to Taco Bell. So we're going

580
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Speaker 1: to the bathroom first. Oh maybe then they'll hang.

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Speaker 14: Up payment center for several legitimate utility companies using barcodes.

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Speaker 8: They said, when you get seven to eleven, we're going

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Speaker 8: to text barcode to your phone so that you can

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Speaker 8: make payment. And when I got there, the guy was

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Speaker 8: still on the phone. They texted the barcode. All seemed legit.

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Speaker 14: Tom made two payments of five hundred dollars each, then

587
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Speaker 14: was told by an alleged supervisor on the phone that

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Speaker 14: he was still fifteen hundred dollars short.

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Speaker 2: See, this is the thing.

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Speaker 1: These scammers get so greedy, they're going to try to

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Speaker 1: get every single drip out of this guy until he

592
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: realizes that this is a scam. Okay, what do you

593
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Speaker 1: think would have happened if this con artist would have

594
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: called Joe Biden? You think Biden would have realized that

595
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Speaker 1: there was something wrong with the request? Or do you

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Speaker 1: think he would have been in the parking lot of

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Speaker 1: that seven eleven two?

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Speaker 2: And then we went to sleep.

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Speaker 1: I got to imagine the family has locks on how

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Speaker 1: much money Joe can withdraw from the bank. They should

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Speaker 1: And by the way, that is one of the things

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Speaker 1: right there. One of the lessons here is if you

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Speaker 1: have parents that are in their eighties, you need to

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Speaker 1: be on the account notified whenever they're making a withdrawal

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Speaker 1: of more than like a hundred bucks.

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Speaker 8: And I said, you know, it seems like a scam,

607
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Speaker 8: and she hung up on me, and then I knew

608
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Speaker 8: it was a scam.

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Speaker 9: So I got home, call the police.

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Speaker 14: San Jose Police tell me they are investigating this case.

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00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 14: Detectives say the common thread is urgency with scammers off

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Speaker 14: and trying to create panic by threatening shut off, arrest

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Speaker 14: or penalties.

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00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 15: Scammers are relentless. They're constantly changing their tactics.

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Speaker 14: Pgn DS urgent.

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Speaker 1: You know, I know, it feels like there's nothing we

617
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Speaker 1: can do about the relentless scams that are out there

618
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: every single day trying to go after us on our phones.

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Speaker 1: But you have to have a phone number to do

620
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: these things. You have to have some kind of cell service.

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Speaker 1: At one point, do the telecom companies try to crack

622
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: down on the people using their platforms for all kinds

623
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Speaker 1: of criminal activity. Well, don't forget when Elmenho was killed

624
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: and they went through all of his criminal enterprises. One

625
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: of the things that the cartel was doing is they

626
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: had a building in Mexico look like an office building

627
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: that was a res center where it was a bunch

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Speaker 1: of people sitting there with headsets on that were calling

629
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Speaker 1: American seniors and scamming them. It is a billion, multi

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Speaker 1: billion dollar industry. There are certain countries like Cambodia where

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Speaker 1: that is their economy is scamming old Americans. Well, it

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00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: sounds like it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

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Speaker 14: In customers to be alert.

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00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 15: PGD will never ask you to make payment using a

635
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Speaker 15: specific payment method like a bar coder, QR code or

636
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 15: money transfer service like zell or prepaid debit card.

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00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 14: PGNI says customers.

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00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: PGNE will take any form of payment, including you taking

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00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: a second mortgage on your house to pay that bill.

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00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 14: Should hang up if they believe it's a.

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00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: Skin Also, if you have a newer iPhone, there is

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00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: that option to just automatically screen unknown calls. I'm a

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00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: big fan of that because the robot on the phone

644
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: will tell the person dialing, please tell us what you're about,

645
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: and then they'll usually test you if they're a real

646
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: person trying to get a hold of you, or they'll

647
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: hang up. And this is also good advice. If you

648
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: don't know the number that's calling, you don't answer. Listen

649
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 1: to the voicemail. If it seems legit, then go ahead

650
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 1: and call them back. But if you don't know who's

651
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: calling you, don't pick up the phone. It's twenty twenty six.

652
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: There is no good news from an unknown caller. Publisher

653
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: Clearinghouse is not on the other end of that line.

654
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: How long has Ed McMahon been dead?

655
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Speaker 14: For and call the utility directly.

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Speaker 8: I think they're bandits, and you know they should be

657
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 8: put in jail. And I should have known there were

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Speaker 8: red flags when they said cash only, that was a

659
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 8: red flag. My PG and E bill said I had

660
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Speaker 8: till later in the month to pay.

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Speaker 9: That was a red flag. So I really at.

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Speaker 1: Least this guy caught on eventually. Okay, you want a prediction, Yes,

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Speaker 1: this guy is going to marry his nurse. If you're

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Speaker 1: related to him, you are not going to get one

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Speaker 1: red scent. This guy is going to be supporting a

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Speaker 1: village in some other country. So what you're saying is,

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Speaker 1: if you're the kids right now, get power of attorney yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Do not let this guy have access to his checking account.

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Speaker 1: Do not let this guy drive. Keep a very very

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Speaker 1: very very close eye.

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Speaker 14: Red flags in the South Bay Damien Trujillo, NBC Bay

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Speaker 14: Area News.

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Speaker 2: So there you go.

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Speaker 1: The latest scam is people calling the elderly, pretending to

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Speaker 1: be with PG and E and demanding you drive to

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Speaker 1: A seven eleven to give them cash. It's the John

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Speaker 1: Phillips Show. It's the John Phillip Show. Eight hundred two

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Speaker 1: two two five two two two is the telephone number

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Speaker 1: one eight hundred two two two five two two two,

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Speaker 1: and it looks like we have some breaking news coming

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Speaker 1: out of Sacramento. Well, we're at crunch time right now,

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Speaker 1: where five o'clock is the absolute cutoff when it comes

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Speaker 1: to things getting negotiated in the legislature to take them

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Speaker 1: off the November ballot. And according to Ashley Zavala at

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Speaker 1: KSE three, remember the update we gave you at noon

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Speaker 1: was John Capoula and Howard Jarvis said there's no way

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Speaker 1: we are taking the Taxpayer Protection Act off the ballot.

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Speaker 1: According to Ashley Zaballa, minutes ago, she tweeted the following

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Speaker 1: breaking John coupoul confirms to me he's planning to take

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Speaker 1: the Local Taxpayer Protection Act off the ballot if the

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Speaker 1: California Legislature passes a new ballot measure to change the

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Speaker 1: California Constitution requiring a two thirds vote for special local

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Speaker 1: tax increases. Deal would also scrap ACA thirteen for the

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Speaker 1: November ballot this year, which would have required any future

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Speaker 1: tax measures requiring a volt threshold passed by the thrame threshold. Basically,

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Speaker 1: ACA thirteen tried to make it harder for an idea

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Speaker 1: like the Taxpayer Protection Act to pass.

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Speaker 2: So apparently.

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Speaker 1: There was a competing measure on the ballot that was

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Speaker 1: also looking to pass that would have taken all of

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Speaker 1: the teeth out of the Howard Jarvis bill. And so

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Speaker 1: the idea here is get the main thing that they wanted,

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Speaker 1: which was the two thirds threshold. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: if this would reverse the other taxes, but it would

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Speaker 1: also take away the bill that would have kind of

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Speaker 1: voided out the Taxpayer Protection Act.

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Speaker 2: It's very confusing.

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Speaker 1: And remember, nothing's a done deal because this is something

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Speaker 1: the legislature would have to get done in the next

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Speaker 1: three hours. It's all very confusing. I'm not even sure

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Speaker 1: I understand what just happened. It's very confusing. We were

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Speaker 1: all do We talked to Susan Shell yesterday. I saw

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Speaker 1: the statements from John Coopaul this morning. It looked like

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Speaker 1: there was no chance of a deal. But apparently there

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Speaker 1: is some real obviously there's some real fear here that

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Speaker 1: this thing, if it gets on the ballot, it's going

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Speaker 1: to pass, and it seems that the legislature is bending

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Speaker 1: over backwards. But I don't know. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: people that put a lot of time and energy into

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Speaker 1: getting this thing the signatures that it needed to get

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Speaker 1: on the ballot. I don't know if this is the

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Speaker 1: way to go, and I don't necessarily know that the

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Speaker 1: competing measure would really had enough, you know, enough of

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Speaker 1: us shot behind it, because I've never even heard of

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Speaker 1: the competing measure intel.

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Speaker 2: Right now, what we don't know.

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Speaker 1: We do know that Bass and Newsom and company were

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Speaker 1: putting pressure on the donors for Howard Jarvis. We don't

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Speaker 1: know what kind of pressure that was. Were they threatening them,

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Speaker 1: If they were threatening them, what were they threatening to

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Speaker 1: do stop the projects of the developers. It's super confusing,

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Speaker 1: especially because we don't know. Again, this doesn't say anything

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Speaker 1: about the other major thing when it comes to the

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Speaker 1: Taxpayer Protection Act, which was the Real Estate Transfer Tax,

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Speaker 1: is the thing that was gonna kill Measure ULA. So

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Speaker 1: if it doesn't have that, that doesn't seem like a win.

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Speaker 1: All right, We'll have to have someone who knows more

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Speaker 1: about this than we do. It literally just broke in

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Speaker 1: the seconds before we came out of that commercial break,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to try to wrap our heads around

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Speaker 1: this and figure out just exactly what just happened. We

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Speaker 1: have one more hour to go right here. On The

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Speaker 1: John Phillips Show,