WEBVTT - We Have Become Wild Beasts

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the

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<v Speaker 1>George Washington Broadcast Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 1>Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>And now, here's Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 1>How y'all doing? We'll get to the big AI conference

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<v Speaker 1>they had at the White House yesterday a little bit later,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're still trying to nail down... Was that a

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<v Speaker 1>9-11 style attempted Islamist hijacking of a plane over there

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<v Speaker 1>in the Middle East? Or was it a suicidal pilot

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<v Speaker 1>who stabbed his co-pilot and then everybody had to go?

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't know that story, stay tuned. It's dramatic.

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<v Speaker 2>At this point, it's walking like a duck and quacking

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<v Speaker 2>like a duck. We're holding off on identifying the bird

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<v Speaker 2>for now. Netanyahu just gave a speech and he held

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<v Speaker 2>back on calling it a hijacking at least so far

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<v Speaker 2>um well it was ah and never mind uh we'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it later um right so whenever the story

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<v Speaker 2>broke of the college gang rape frat thing uh was

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<v Speaker 2>it over the weekend anyway when i first saw it

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<v Speaker 2>i thought you know i'm not in the mood for

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<v Speaker 2>one of these stories so i just took in the

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<v Speaker 2>few headlines that reached my ears before i could switch

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<v Speaker 2>to something else and from major newscasts that presented it

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<v Speaker 2>as a it's a clear-cut case of uh gang rape

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<v Speaker 2>of an unconscious girl and these guys are monsters um

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<v Speaker 2>as and then joe uh brought us the like actual

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<v Speaker 2>details from the story yesterday that made it look like

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<v Speaker 2>you know much more nuanced than that description uh to

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<v Speaker 2>say the least. And I was surprised to see last

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<v Speaker 2>night as I flipped on the evening newscast, they're still

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<v Speaker 2>presenting it as clear cut case of gang raping college

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<v Speaker 2>monsters that the college did not prosecute back in the day.

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<v Speaker 2>What a horror, which, as you pointed out yesterday, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know why this didn't occur to me immediately. Since

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<v Speaker 2>when do modern colleges really.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, give the benefit of the doubt to male

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<v Speaker 1>aggressive sexual behavior? When has that been the case?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's err to the side of letting the kids be

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<v Speaker 2>kids and have lots of sex.

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<v Speaker 1>Letting men be men. Yeah, boys being boys. Well, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>err to the side of, well, they say they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Here's a little sampling of the news coverage, Michael. 46, please.

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<v Speaker 3>New questions about how Cornell University handled what a former

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<v Speaker 3>student now alleges was a gang rape involving seven fraternity brothers.

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<v Speaker 3>New York Governor Kathy Hochul, a member of Cornell's board,

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<v Speaker 3>is calling for an independent investigation, saying the case raises

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<v Speaker 3>serious questions about Cornell's campus culture. In an explosive lawsuit,

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<v Speaker 3>that former student included these vile Snapchat messages from the

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<v Speaker 3>fraternity brothers during the alleged assault. Free expletive, like you

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<v Speaker 3>can walk in and whip it out. The case sparking

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<v Speaker 3>outrage on social media and on campus.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, this has become a really useful study in

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<v Speaker 2>people making use of lurid headlines to advance their own

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<v Speaker 2>particular cause needs, political careers, etc. Which is pretty rough

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<v Speaker 2>for those college kids if they're not guilty of a

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<v Speaker 2>horrifying crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Let the countersuits begin.

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<v Speaker 2>They should hire the best lawyers in America and begin

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<v Speaker 2>countersuing their asses off. So you've got Kathy Hochul making

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<v Speaker 2>populist noises about independent investigations. Whether the school fulfilled its

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<v Speaker 2>duty to protect students, Hochul wants the board of trustees

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<v Speaker 2>to appoint outside attorneys to scrutinize the university's response. The

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<v Speaker 2>mayor of Ithaca, New York, where Cornell is, called for

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<v Speaker 2>a moratorium on student event permits due to the school's

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<v Speaker 2>appalling response to the allegations. We'll get to why that's

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<v Speaker 2>idiotic in a minute. Of course, AOC weighed in denouncing

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<v Speaker 2>the school's culture of rape.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, how many interviews have I seen with college kids,

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<v Speaker 1>including I was listening to NPR this morning, where it's

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<v Speaker 1>just soundbite after soundbite of college girls saying, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel safe and I never have. And we have

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<v Speaker 1>a culture around here of allowing rape and all this

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<v Speaker 1>different sorts of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>The student body president said we want to know what

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<v Speaker 2>happened in this case and what went wrong. So what's

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening here is. Because it's so useful. People who

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<v Speaker 2>are not letting a crisis or a headline go to

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<v Speaker 2>waste are framing this as, are you against gang rape

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<v Speaker 2>or are you for it? Skipping over the question of

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<v Speaker 2>whether one occurred. As we were discussing yesterday, back in 2024,

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<v Speaker 2>the young woman involved, the alleged victim, Jane Doe, went

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<v Speaker 2>to the cops because rumors were flying around the campus

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<v Speaker 2>at Cornell about what had happened and her participation in it.

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<v Speaker 2>And she issued a six-page statement which made clear that though.

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<v Speaker 1>The activities were lurid.

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<v Speaker 2>And unhealthy and immoral and drug-fueled and the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Not good for your psyche for anyone. Oh, just a

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<v Speaker 1>terrible idea in short.

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<v Speaker 2>That she was not unwilling as a participant and was

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<v Speaker 2>not incoherent. And in fact, when she decided she's really

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<v Speaker 2>wasted and tired and I want to go home, everybody said, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>see ya, and she went home. Now, why she has

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<v Speaker 2>now changed her story completely and has filed this suit

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<v Speaker 2>is in the eye of the beholder.

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<v Speaker 1>I will let y'all, you know, guess? Is it regret?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it greed?

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<v Speaker 2>Did she hold back on the first police report to

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<v Speaker 2>cover up for her rapists? I doubt it, but it's possible.

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<v Speaker 2>But here is, of all people, the obnoxious, progressive, me-too,

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<v Speaker 2>Sonny Hostin of The View discussing this case in 43

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<v Speaker 2>and on, Michael. We'll play them one at a time.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually have the statement that that Jane Doe wrote

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<v Speaker 4>at that time. Just give it to us in a sentence.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't have a lot of time.

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<v Speaker 4>It's several pages long. I know. It's nine pages long.

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<v Speaker 4>And I will say that under current New York state law,

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<v Speaker 4>voluntary intoxication or drug use, and she voluntarily drank a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>She voluntarily snorted ketamine. off of one of the boys'

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<v Speaker 4>body parts. Even though she was highly intoxicated when she

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<v Speaker 4>arrived at the frat house. She was highly intoxicated, but

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<v Speaker 4>had made plans to meet one of the young men.

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<v Speaker 4>She allowed other boys and consented to other boys snorting

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<v Speaker 4>ketamine off of her body. And under New York law,

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<v Speaker 4>Voluntary intoxication or drug use that merely impairs judgment does

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<v Speaker 4>not legally constitute an inability to consent to sexual activity. Right.

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<v Speaker 4>So that means if you voluntarily ingest drugs, you voluntarily

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<v Speaker 4>take alcohol, you can agree to have threesomes, which in

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<v Speaker 4>her statement, she agreed to have two separate threesomes. One

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<v Speaker 4>boy did walk in. One young man did walk in

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<v Speaker 4>and say, everybody out. So there was one person that

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<v Speaker 4>did that. And according to her statement, three of the

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<v Speaker 4>young men did not touch her.

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<v Speaker 2>Three of the seven who are now being named, shamed,

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<v Speaker 2>and fired from their jobs never touched her.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never watched The View, and most clips I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>over the years have been awful. I didn't realize Sonny

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<v Speaker 1>Hostin was a former prosecutor of these kind of cases.

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<v Speaker 1>It's what she did for a living, and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>she stepped in with this case. factual information that nobody

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<v Speaker 1>was available to everyone, by the way. It's not like this.

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<v Speaker 1>You couldn't have sought this out if you were doing

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<v Speaker 1>a big network piece for this story. But they had

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<v Speaker 1>no interest in this. Yeah, she is obnoxious and I

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<v Speaker 1>can't stand her. But that was her specialty, sex offenses.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's skip to 45, Michael. Yeah, but she was intoxicated.

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<v Speaker 1>How did she under New York law?

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<v Speaker 4>Again, under New York law. voluntary intoxication if you voluntarily

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<v Speaker 4>drink 10 beers yeah and you voluntarily ingest ketamine but

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<v Speaker 4>that intoxication that.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't have anything to do with the fact that the

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<v Speaker 1>guys attacked her whether she's drunk or not.

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<v Speaker 4>According to her statement she says she did they did

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<v Speaker 4>not attack her her statement in 2024 she she consented

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<v Speaker 4>to the sexual activity. She consented to it according to

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<v Speaker 4>her own statement in 2024. Now, I prosecuted sex crimes

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<v Speaker 4>for 10 years.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe women.

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<v Speaker 4>I am not saying that we shouldn't believe her, but

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<v Speaker 4>in 2024, she said one thing, and now in 2026,

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<v Speaker 4>she's saying another thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. One she-wolf. Who's that other woman, everybody? Joy Behar. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>she's hard to take. Evil. She's an evil blot upon

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<v Speaker 1>the face of mankind.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, nobody attacked anybody. Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say of Joy Behar, stop looking

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<v Speaker 1>both ways when you step off a curb. Would you

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<v Speaker 1>do that for me? I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>What was I going to say?

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<v Speaker 2>She was desperate to say attacked her, even though that's

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<v Speaker 2>clearly not true. Oh, in her world, though, and look,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the first person to tell you there's a difference

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<v Speaker 2>between men and women. And as I sent my girls

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<v Speaker 2>off to college, I had different concerns than when I

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<v Speaker 2>sent my son off to college. I'm the first person

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<v Speaker 2>to admit that. On the other hand, what the evil,

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<v Speaker 2>malignant witch Joy Behar is asking for is a situation

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<v Speaker 2>where a bunch of college kids all get wasted together

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<v Speaker 2>and decide to have sex, and the men are guilty

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<v Speaker 2>of terrible felonies, and the woman is the victim.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though she invited the sexual Congress. So that's an

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<v Speaker 1>unworkable way to structure society. Oh, no, it's horrible. New York.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, as a dad of the girls, am I

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<v Speaker 2>like not really unhappy with the fellas? Yeah, of course

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<v Speaker 2>I am.

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<v Speaker 4>But.

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<v Speaker 2>And I cut short my list of all the people

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<v Speaker 2>piling on trying to make their political or sociological points

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<v Speaker 2>based on the assumption that there was a rape here.

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<v Speaker 2>That is not only an open question in the way

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<v Speaker 2>that everyone is innocent until proven guilty. But in this case,

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<v Speaker 2>there's an enormous question mark over that very question.

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<v Speaker 1>Not if you slow the F down. Certainly not if

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<v Speaker 1>you take in most mainstream news. They make it pretty

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<v Speaker 1>clear what they're insinuating is happening. And then they immediately

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<v Speaker 1>go to interviews with college girls saying, yeah, it's always

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<v Speaker 1>been like that around here and that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Play 47 for us, Michael. I just think it's a monstrosity.

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<v Speaker 4>I just feel just so unsafe around campus, especially knowing

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<v Speaker 4>that these people are walking among us.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty much the entire campus was in a lot of shock.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, first of all, they're not walking among you. They

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<v Speaker 2>graduated quite some time ago. Number two, they're not rapists.

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<v Speaker 2>They're guys who like to get high and engage in orgies,

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<v Speaker 2>apparently briefly. Just the narrative has taken hold of the

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<v Speaker 2>story and the poor facts are crying.

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<v Speaker 1>What about us? What about us? Modern media. And these

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<v Speaker 1>seven dudes, their names are out.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone once already lost his job. He had a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good job with Wells Fargo.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, my God. Wells Fargo. Hey, dudes.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to be on the receiving end of a very,

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<v Speaker 2>very expensive lawsuit. Hey, I got wasted and had sex

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<v Speaker 2>in college, too. Now, is iHeart going to, and all

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<v Speaker 2>of the great companies we work with across the country,

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<v Speaker 2>are they all going.

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<v Speaker 1>To fire me now?

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<v Speaker 2>Never anything within an inch of non-consensual.

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<v Speaker 1>Never.

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<v Speaker 2>I find that activity abhorrent. And look, these guys, they

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<v Speaker 2>might have exactly the same attitude as I do. To

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<v Speaker 2>hurt a woman or do something with her she didn't want,

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<v Speaker 2>it sickens me. Not only could I not sexually perform,

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<v Speaker 2>I would weep over my lost soul, okay?

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<v Speaker 1>And I got high and had sex! I was on

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<v Speaker 1>the non-consensual end one time. Good Lord. And I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have the moral courage to stop it. An aggressive woman, huh?

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<v Speaker 4>Quite.

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<v Speaker 1>Who were the college kids that were on the steps

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<v Speaker 1>of the Capitol and they were portrayed as evil monsters

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<v Speaker 1>by CNN and everyone else? Remember? A punchable face, that crowd? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>or the poor Duke lacrosse guys. Well, I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about this particular story because they ended up suing CNN

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<v Speaker 1>and other companies and getting tons of money. So if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big media outlet, be careful how you portray

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<v Speaker 1>these stories. You could end up really regretting it.

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<v Speaker 2>Because all those media outlets, they know about that 2024

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<v Speaker 2>police report as they're portraying this.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, right. More on the way. Stay here.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 1>The Armstrong and Getty Show. Thanks to weight loss drugs,

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<v Speaker 1>Illinois Governor J.B.

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<v Speaker 2>Pritzker says he's lost 80 pounds, reaching his lifelong goal

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<v Speaker 2>of seeing his penis.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, my God. Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a little cleverness would be nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Even a little. That's a mean-spirited fat joke, I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that. The guy's pro-mutilating children in the name of

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<v Speaker 1>radical gender theory. Why don't we stick with that? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Do you want to hurt the guy? I

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<v Speaker 1>assume you do. You don't like the fact that he's

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<v Speaker 1>pro-mutilating children. If you want to make a really mean

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<v Speaker 1>joke to hurt the guy's feelings, a joke that he's

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<v Speaker 1>too fat to see his own penis.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't want to do that. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>discuss the issues. Childish sledgehammers. This is idiotic. Uh, we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this at the beginning of the football season,

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<v Speaker 1>way more games overseas this year, going to be one

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<v Speaker 1>every single week. And, uh, they're, they've got it scheduled

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<v Speaker 1>to increase over the years. And I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a squeeze in the golden goose until

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<v Speaker 1>it dies situation because you're, I don't know anybody who's

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<v Speaker 1>a fan of their team in the United States who

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<v Speaker 1>likes it when their team is over in London or

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<v Speaker 1>Rio or whatever, uh, And you got the time change

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<v Speaker 1>and somebody loses home field advantage. If I got a

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<v Speaker 1>team that's playoff bound, I don't want this interruption. But

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL thinks that they can make this a global

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<v Speaker 1>sport and make a ton of money. That's why it's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting that the Colts-Commanders game in London this Sunday, tickets

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<v Speaker 1>are incredibly slow. And they're having to cut the prices

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<v Speaker 1>way down to try to not have an embarrassingly small

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<v Speaker 1>crowd there. Hmm. Uh, for the game and have, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a good look for the NFL in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States or the NFL in Europe or anywhere. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not surprising to me. Uh, no, no, that neither

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<v Speaker 1>team has like a super high profile at this point. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and you'd have to have that to get people interested

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<v Speaker 1>in a going to see what's this NFL thing all about.

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<v Speaker 1>What's all this then? Uh, but they've had quite a few.

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<v Speaker 2>Games in London already and, or the fans of the

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<v Speaker 2>team think, you know, honey, this is a good excuse

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<v Speaker 2>to go to London. We'll go to the game and

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<v Speaker 2>then see the, you know, big Ben or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Um, No, no. Well, we'll see how it goes. But

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<v Speaker 1>at some point, don't people have to be into the sport?

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<v Speaker 1>Are there any high schools in Europe where they have

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<v Speaker 1>football teams? Is that a common thing? Like every high

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<v Speaker 1>school in America has a football team? Do kids grow

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<v Speaker 1>up playing that or having any knowledge of it at

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<v Speaker 1>all whatsoever? Very small handful. It's got to be small.

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<v Speaker 1>Mostly connected to American military bases. And I realize that.

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<v Speaker 1>American schools. I suppose they're trying to grow it slowly

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<v Speaker 1>over the years, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm-hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Squeeze the golden goose. That's what everybody does. You take

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<v Speaker 1>the golden goose and you just keep squeezing it and

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<v Speaker 1>wringing it out. I think there's more gold in there.

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<v Speaker 1>And the goose is going, ah, ah, quit. Barbaric.

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<v Speaker 2>There are a lot of venture capitalists. That's precisely what

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<v Speaker 2>they do over and over again. Then they go hunting

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<v Speaker 2>for a new golden goose when the first one dies.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. First one's on the table. Doctor trying to bring

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<v Speaker 1>it back to life. That's when the venture capitalist gets out.

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<v Speaker 1>What is going on with that hijacking in Israel? We

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<v Speaker 1>need to check in on that story.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getty. The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Watching some dramatic footage on my phone. Explain that in

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<v Speaker 1>just a second.

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<v Speaker 2>Because Jack has Trump derangement syndrome, he won't admit to

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest story of the day is probably that the.

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<v Speaker 1>Straits of Hormuz are open or is be open.

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<v Speaker 2>We're practically to pre-war levels of oil shipments going through

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<v Speaker 2>the strait. And the part that's not there is the

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<v Speaker 2>Iranian stuff that we're blocking off.

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<v Speaker 1>So the squeeze them hard strategy is really working. So

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<v Speaker 1>stay with us. Details to come if Jack wins. Let

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<v Speaker 1>us do it. It was hatred. So I was just

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<v Speaker 1>watching some of the videos that have come out of

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<v Speaker 1>that flight that was supposed to land in a commercial

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<v Speaker 1>flight that was supposed to land in Tel Aviv, Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>Pilot killed the co-pilot. And what was he up to?

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<v Speaker 1>Not exactly sure yet. I think it's vice versa. Or

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<v Speaker 1>have they changed now to the pilot was the baddie? Whichever.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody flying a plane killed somebody else who was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be flying the plane, I guess. Well, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>Ian Pannell's report here from ABC, and then I can

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<v Speaker 1>fill in some of the videos I was just watching.

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<v Speaker 1>Holy crap.

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<v Speaker 5>As the plane was about an hour from landing, it

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<v Speaker 5>then suddenly suffered a rapid descent, plunging from 34,000 feet

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<v Speaker 5>to 16,000 in three minutes. This was over Saudi Arabia.

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<v Speaker 5>Passengers on board telling Israeli media the plane lost control

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<v Speaker 5>after some kind of struggle between the pilots. Some have

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<v Speaker 5>said one of the pilots was stabbed with a knife

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<v Speaker 5>and that there was a lot of blood. They say

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<v Speaker 5>fellow passengers disarmed the attacker and it was able to land.

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<v Speaker 1>One pilot stabbed the other pilot. There's lots of blood.

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<v Speaker 1>Were the doors open? Do they not have the locked

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<v Speaker 1>all the time doors like we have in the United States?

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about that very question because a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the somehow the cockpit door was opened by somebody

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<v Speaker 2>because passengers helped to to subdue.

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<v Speaker 1>The the terrorist, the attacker. Let Ian finish. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about these videos I've been watching

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<v Speaker 1>during the commercial break.

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<v Speaker 5>Eyewitnesses are saying one of the pilots was stabbed with

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<v Speaker 5>a knife and that there was a lot of blood

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<v Speaker 5>on board. They say fellow passengers disarmed the attacker. An

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<v Speaker 5>Israeli passenger telling Channel 12 News in Israel, there were

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<v Speaker 5>moments when we were sure this was the end. We

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<v Speaker 5>heard screams and screams and then we saw that the

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<v Speaker 5>cockpit was being opened and there was blood there. An

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<v Speaker 5>Israeli source telling ABC News, it is now being treated

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<v Speaker 5>as a terror incident and as you would expect.

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister Netanyahu is being kept updated. Yeah, but is

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<v Speaker 1>it a terror, a jihadist terror incident? Is that what

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<v Speaker 1>they mean by terror incident? So my question was, so

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<v Speaker 1>Joe brought us the information that this is a man

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<v Speaker 1>of the Muslim faith?

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<v Speaker 2>He's an Omani national, it's virtually certain, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Who did the stabbing?

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<v Speaker 2>Correct.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Which means it could be a 9-11 style. This guy

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<v Speaker 1>was going to crash the plane into a tall building

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<v Speaker 1>in Tel Aviv or something. Who knows what? Or there

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<v Speaker 1>have been a couple of cases in recent years where

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<v Speaker 1>you just have a really depressed slash crazy suicidal pilot

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<v Speaker 1>who decides to end his life by taking a plane

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<v Speaker 1>into the ground. And is it that? But calling it terrorism,

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean it's not that, the depressed pilot thing? Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, that would be fair. Although I was

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<v Speaker 1>about to interject as you were asking me for a fact.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like I'm on the ground in Riyadh doing

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<v Speaker 1>original reporting. Here's Joe Getty on the ground in Riyadh.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack, the scene here is chaotic at best.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm just reading reports, obviously, that we're getting.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is the infamous first 24 hours after a

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<v Speaker 2>crazy incident. On the other hand, as I said earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>it's walking like a duck and cracking like a duck.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you watching more videos? I wish I hadn't clicked

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<v Speaker 1>on that one. So there's a bunch of videos out.

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<v Speaker 1>The first one I watched, I don't think I would

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<v Speaker 1>do this. So this is a woman sitting in the

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<v Speaker 1>back of the plane. And the plane is clearly at

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<v Speaker 1>a very steep angle going down. You can see some

0:23:11.590 --> 0:23:14.840
<v Speaker 1>passengers are crying. I assume at this point they've already

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<v Speaker 1>heard the screams because there were screams from the cockpit,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, when the stabbing happened. So obviously the plane

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<v Speaker 1>is pointing down. The stabbing has already happened. And you

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<v Speaker 1>decide you're going to get out your phone? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that would cross my mind. I realize I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>of the generation where... The first thing you do always

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<v Speaker 1>is get your phone out. But these are my last

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<v Speaker 1>seconds on Earth. I'm going to get a video of it.

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 1>Why?

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<v Speaker 2>To show whom your phone will be atomized. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>would think I would text and or call loved ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if I'm going to survive it. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>how I'm spending the most crucial am I going to

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<v Speaker 1>make it here moments of my life. Right. It just

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<v Speaker 1>seems like a weird thing to do anyway. Let's get

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<v Speaker 1>some good shots of this. So that's pretty dramatic. And

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<v Speaker 1>you've got people that are staying in their seats and

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<v Speaker 1>are just crying. You've got some people just looking around like,

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<v Speaker 1>what should I do? A couple of dudes are in the.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you call it the aisle aisle there you

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<v Speaker 1>go couldn't come up with that word in the aisle

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to figure out what to do at this

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<v Speaker 1>point then i saw another video where guys are running

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<v Speaker 1>toward the front and then i just clicked on this

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<v Speaker 1>video which i haven't watched all of yet but it's

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<v Speaker 1>up close of the bleeding pilot it's just a stabbed

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<v Speaker 1>guy with his shirt open and blood all over the

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<v Speaker 1>place oh so there's lots of videos coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>this flight oh boy That's the world we live in.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody brought this up on the 25th anniversary of 9-11.

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<v Speaker 1>Think how different that event would be now because of

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<v Speaker 1>cell phones. All of those people that jumped out of

0:24:50.750 --> 0:24:53.429
<v Speaker 1>the building, for instance, would have been posting things on

0:24:53.570 --> 0:24:57.670
<v Speaker 1>their Instagram or videos or whatever for their kids. And maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever. The people inside the plane, it would

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<v Speaker 1>be rough. But this one's kind of rough. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say. Or better or worse.

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<v Speaker 2>I will be highly interested to know what the facts

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<v Speaker 2>are here. But it's, I mean, given the current unrest

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<v Speaker 2>and the battle of radical Islam against all of the West,

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<v Speaker 2>including Israel, yeah, it wouldn't be surprising at all that

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<v Speaker 2>a plane full of Jews would be the target of

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<v Speaker 2>a Muslim fanatic.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I lack imagination, but this person appears to be, like,

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<v Speaker 1>tending to the doctor with one hand. Tending to the

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<v Speaker 1>doctor or the I was wondering if it's a doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who is a doctor. And so my mind got confused,

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<v Speaker 1>tending to the stabbed pilot. And I'm wondering if this

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<v Speaker 1>is a doctor, but clearly tending to the stabbed, bleeding,

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<v Speaker 1>still alive pilot with one hand while holding their phone

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<v Speaker 1>and recording it with the other. Why? I think we've

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<v Speaker 1>been overtaken by a I have to get video of this,

0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:04.720
<v Speaker 1>whether it's our kids first steps, which I've done and regretted.

0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:10.659
<v Speaker 1>Or helping out on a terrorist incident. Or there's a horrifying,

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:14.940
<v Speaker 1>somebody's being beaten to death at a bar. Rather than fight, help,

0:26:15.060 --> 0:26:16.980
<v Speaker 1>or call 911 or something, I've got to get my

0:26:17.030 --> 0:26:18.649
<v Speaker 1>phone out. So I've got to try to deal with

0:26:18.670 --> 0:26:21.310
<v Speaker 1>this with one hand while I get the video. That's weird.

0:26:21.330 --> 0:26:23.310
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know, unless the guy was not a

0:26:23.350 --> 0:26:25.389
<v Speaker 2>doctor and he was getting medical advice from one on

0:26:25.410 --> 0:26:25.790
<v Speaker 2>the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. I have no idea. Yeah, I

0:26:27.750 --> 0:26:32.109
<v Speaker 1>don't think that's what's going on there. That's weird. We

0:26:32.130 --> 0:26:37.710
<v Speaker 1>have become very weird beasts. I'd say, yeah. But I

0:26:37.730 --> 0:26:41.770
<v Speaker 1>would imagine at some point we're going to have Dubai

0:26:41.830 --> 0:26:46.550
<v Speaker 1>passengers cower and scream as plane plunges in suspected jihadist

0:26:46.609 --> 0:26:49.240
<v Speaker 1>terrorist attacks. So at least the New York Post is

0:26:49.260 --> 0:26:51.460
<v Speaker 1>calling it a suspected jihadist terrorist attack. Of course, it

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:54.260
<v Speaker 1>could be suspected by radio hosts. It doesn't have to

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:55.680
<v Speaker 1>be suspected officially.

0:26:55.700 --> 0:26:59.240
<v Speaker 2>You got Nomani trying to crash an airplane full of Jews.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, come on.

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<v Speaker 2>I sit ready to be corrected if indeed evidence shows

0:27:06.470 --> 0:27:07.969
<v Speaker 2>it's not what it appears to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Quack, quack, quack. Of course, the critical information would be,

0:27:12.730 --> 0:27:16.510
<v Speaker 1>is this guy tied to Iran or in any way,

0:27:17.290 --> 0:27:17.570
<v Speaker 1>or is he.

0:27:17.530 --> 0:27:20.290
<v Speaker 2>Just an angry Muslim who hates you? Well, if he's

0:27:20.350 --> 0:27:22.530
<v Speaker 2>an Islamist, then he is tied to Iran. It's part

0:27:22.570 --> 0:27:25.580
<v Speaker 2>of the same movement, whether formally or informally. Thank you

0:27:25.600 --> 0:27:28.600
<v Speaker 2>very much. Here's another excellent point. Your car is spying

0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:31.180
<v Speaker 2>on you. Not necessarily, but it might be. Here's a

0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:34.700
<v Speaker 2>true story. Guy's insurance jumps over 20%. He's got no accident,

0:27:34.740 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 2>no tickets. So he wants to figure out who reported him,

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:40.680
<v Speaker 2>what was going on. It was his own car. Every

0:27:40.810 --> 0:27:44.230
<v Speaker 2>hard break, every fast merge, every late night taco run,

0:27:44.510 --> 0:27:47.669
<v Speaker 2>his automaker logged it all, sold it to a data broker.

0:27:47.890 --> 0:27:50.470
<v Speaker 2>The broker sold it to his insurance company.

0:27:50.790 --> 0:27:55.260
<v Speaker 1>Wow. General Motors paying $ 12. 75 million to the state of

0:27:55.300 --> 0:27:58.810
<v Speaker 1>California over this sort of thing. information from your car.

0:27:59.170 --> 0:28:01.910
<v Speaker 1>The lesson is data brokers aren't only selling your address anymore.

0:28:01.930 --> 0:28:04.270
<v Speaker 1>They're selling your habits to anyone, and it's cheap, and

0:28:04.290 --> 0:28:06.510
<v Speaker 1>it's floating around there, and that's why we're using Cogni

0:28:06.530 --> 0:28:08.780
<v Speaker 1>to get that information off of these data brokers.

0:28:09.300 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 2>It's the online service that forces data brokers and people

0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:14.980
<v Speaker 2>search sites to delete your information, and Cogni has scrubbed

0:28:15.020 --> 0:28:17.179
<v Speaker 2>us from hundreds of sites so far, and then they

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.379
<v Speaker 2>keep going back to make sure you stay scrubbed. Go

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:25.260
<v Speaker 2>to incogni.com slash armstrong for 60% off. That's incogni.com slash armstrong,

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:29.310
<v Speaker 2>incogni.com slash armstrong. Your car should take you places, not

0:28:29.810 --> 0:28:31.310
<v Speaker 2>take you for a ride.

0:28:31.369 --> 0:28:33.090
<v Speaker 1>Well, speaking of your car spying on you, do I

0:28:33.090 --> 0:28:37.220
<v Speaker 1>tell this story? I meant to. So now that Grok

0:28:37.300 --> 0:28:40.620
<v Speaker 1>is integrated into the Tesla. So the other day I

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:42.690
<v Speaker 1>decided it was going to be pizza night at home.

0:28:44.330 --> 0:28:46.370
<v Speaker 1>And I said, hey, Grok. She said, yeah, what can

0:28:46.390 --> 0:28:47.930
<v Speaker 1>I do for you? I said, what's the name of

0:28:47.950 --> 0:28:51.270
<v Speaker 1>that pizza place on Lake Boulevard? She said she said

0:28:51.290 --> 0:28:52.730
<v Speaker 1>the name. I said, yeah, can you dial them up

0:28:52.780 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 1>so I can order a pizza and drive me there?

0:28:54.140 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 1>She said, sure. Phone rings. They answer the phone and

0:28:56.640 --> 0:29:00.300
<v Speaker 1>my car is driving me to the pizza place. What

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 1>the hell kind of what is that? But it's amazing.

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:06.820
<v Speaker 1>It is amazing and very handy. And I really like

0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:10.650
<v Speaker 1>that tech. But that's a lot of information that is

0:29:10.850 --> 0:29:14.060
<v Speaker 1>in your vehicle that can be spread around. That's right.

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:16.540
<v Speaker 2>I was so hypnotized by the idea of a good

0:29:16.620 --> 0:29:23.480
<v Speaker 2>pizza that the liberty, the surveillance aspects of the story

0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 2>eluded me.

0:29:25.010 --> 0:29:27.750
<v Speaker 1>And I'm sitting there like with my hands folded or

0:29:27.770 --> 0:29:29.989
<v Speaker 1>in my lap or whatever this whole conversation. What's that

0:29:30.050 --> 0:29:32.150
<v Speaker 1>pizza place? Can you dial that up and drive me

0:29:32.210 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 1>to the pizza place? All of that gets taken care of.

0:29:35.630 --> 0:29:39.030
<v Speaker 2>If there could only be one topping on pizza for

0:29:39.050 --> 0:29:40.959
<v Speaker 2>the rest of your life. what it what is the

0:29:41.140 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 2>indispensable topic italian sausage michael pepperoni for the longest time

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 2>i was a pepperoni guy i think i may be

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:52.340
<v Speaker 2>on team sausage now but it's it's definitely one of

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:56.460
<v Speaker 2>the you should never probably eat it ever meats it's.

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:59.580
<v Speaker 1>Gotta have it why shouldn't you eat sausage It's not

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:02.180
<v Speaker 1>good for you. What are you, a monk? What is

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 1>life for? What is the point of being alive? A long,

0:30:06.180 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 1>healthy life. Lean muscle mass, etc. Give me the sausage pizza, please. Onions, too,

0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 1>on mine. My number one go-to pizza, and I came

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:18.590
<v Speaker 1>to it fairly late in life, is Hawaiian pizza. That's

0:30:18.620 --> 0:30:22.930
<v Speaker 1>my number one go-to. Yeah, yeah. It's an enjoyable lasagna.

0:30:23.070 --> 0:30:27.990
<v Speaker 2>To me, that's your alternate pizza. It's like barbecue chicken pizza,

0:30:28.030 --> 0:30:30.930
<v Speaker 2>which I also love. No more than one out of

0:30:31.090 --> 0:30:35.190
<v Speaker 2>three pizzas should be your alternate pizza, your non-red sauce

0:30:35.570 --> 0:30:36.229
<v Speaker 2>pizza to me.

0:30:36.330 --> 0:30:37.450
<v Speaker 1>That's the right ratio.

0:30:37.910 --> 0:30:40.870
<v Speaker 2>Somewhere between 20 to 30 percent.

0:30:40.910 --> 0:30:43.730
<v Speaker 1>My problem is that in a modern world, I'm disappointed

0:30:43.810 --> 0:30:47.390
<v Speaker 1>by my pizza more often than I'm excited. It's almost

0:30:47.550 --> 0:30:49.209
<v Speaker 1>never as good as I want it to be. And

0:30:49.250 --> 0:30:52.110
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it is about the modern world. Hmm.

0:30:52.890 --> 0:30:55.670
<v Speaker 1>You don't have a go-to one or two? I live

0:30:55.690 --> 0:30:58.310
<v Speaker 1>in a college town that doesn't really have good pizza

0:30:58.580 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 1>because they're all young Asian girls. We have lots of

0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:08.110
<v Speaker 1>bad Thai. I thought this was America. I know. But

0:31:08.170 --> 0:31:10.969
<v Speaker 1>even places people recommend to me, I just don't know

0:31:11.010 --> 0:31:14.910
<v Speaker 1>if I have invented a standard that can't be bet.

0:31:14.950 --> 0:31:17.390
<v Speaker 1>And that wasn't true when we were at the convention

0:31:17.410 --> 0:31:20.410
<v Speaker 1>in Chicago. My standards were met, and I was very

0:31:20.490 --> 0:31:21.490
<v Speaker 1>pleased with those pizzas.

0:31:21.710 --> 0:31:24.030
<v Speaker 2>So I was just going to ask whether your COVID thing,

0:31:24.090 --> 0:31:26.510
<v Speaker 2>if you're hard of tasting now, but clearly no.

0:31:28.170 --> 0:31:30.790
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah. Holy cow, did I eat a lot of

0:31:30.850 --> 0:31:32.310
<v Speaker 1>pizza in Chicago when we were there?

0:31:32.590 --> 0:31:32.850
<v Speaker 2>I know.

0:31:32.890 --> 0:31:36.390
<v Speaker 1>It was awesome. I think I gained five pounds. So good.

0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 1>Five pounds of democracy.

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:43.370
<v Speaker 2>You know, if you don't like Chicago-style pizza, the thick stuff,

0:31:43.690 --> 0:31:44.850
<v Speaker 2>that's fine. We can still be friends.

0:31:44.910 --> 0:31:48.210
<v Speaker 1>No, I can't. I won't be friends with you. Actually,

0:31:48.370 --> 0:31:50.890
<v Speaker 1>one of my friends who I really, really like, he's

0:31:51.090 --> 0:31:53.730
<v Speaker 1>from Chicago and he hates Chicago-style pizza. He's a thin

0:31:53.750 --> 0:31:54.190
<v Speaker 1>crust guy.

0:31:54.490 --> 0:31:57.330
<v Speaker 2>That's why we ran him out. That's why he's not

0:31:57.370 --> 0:31:58.970
<v Speaker 2>in Chicago anymore. We wouldn't have him.

0:32:00.300 --> 0:32:03.340
<v Speaker 1>So there was an AI summit at the White House

0:32:03.380 --> 0:32:08.300
<v Speaker 1>yesterday with All the most important people on planet Earth,

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:11.380
<v Speaker 1>pretty much, gathered together talking about AI. We can bring

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:12.940
<v Speaker 1>you some of those highlights in hour three.

0:32:13.630 --> 0:32:16.990
<v Speaker 2>Also, as I mentioned earlier, Iran is squeezing. The blockade

0:32:17.130 --> 0:32:23.810
<v Speaker 2>is working. Trump, finally, is winning this contest. All indications

0:32:23.870 --> 0:32:26.100
<v Speaker 2>are things are heading in a positive direction with Iran.

0:32:26.300 --> 0:32:27.100
<v Speaker 1>Awesome. Stay tuned.

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:37.430
<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getty. The Armstrong and Getty Show.

0:32:40.900 --> 0:32:43.790
<v Speaker 1>Andrew Ross Sorkin, who you may or may not know,

0:32:43.910 --> 0:32:47.590
<v Speaker 1>not a Trump fan. If you know his work, gushing

0:32:47.850 --> 0:32:51.840
<v Speaker 1>over that new AI government website that they announced yesterday

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 1>on how great it is and all the different things

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 1>it can do. We'll have to talk about that later.

0:32:56.100 --> 0:32:56.980
<v Speaker 1>Sounds fantastic.

0:32:57.180 --> 0:33:00.380
<v Speaker 2>What the f * * * type of AI s * * *

0:33:00.460 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 2>is this?

0:33:02.340 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Good stuff.

0:33:04.020 --> 0:33:07.840
<v Speaker 2>So stay with us for that. It has become very,

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:11.610
<v Speaker 2>very clear in the last several days that the squeeze,

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:15.850
<v Speaker 2>the United States military, I hate, it's always about Trump.

0:33:16.590 --> 0:33:16.950
<v Speaker 3>I know.

0:33:17.490 --> 0:33:21.090
<v Speaker 1>Trump obsession. Some of my favorite podcasts, they get sucked

0:33:21.170 --> 0:33:25.470
<v Speaker 1>into the angle this Trump plays in this. No, no, no, no.

0:33:25.530 --> 0:33:30.930
<v Speaker 1>Can't you discuss this without getting into that? People are

0:33:30.990 --> 0:33:33.830
<v Speaker 1>so used to it. They can't stop themselves. They don't

0:33:33.850 --> 0:33:36.190
<v Speaker 1>even know they're doing it. I know. Yeah.

0:33:36.290 --> 0:33:39.530
<v Speaker 2>And look, you can't separate the president from the conduct

0:33:39.590 --> 0:33:45.270
<v Speaker 2>of a military conflict, but The squeeze that we are

0:33:45.350 --> 0:33:52.290
<v Speaker 2>putting on Iran, specifically their oil shipment and other international

0:33:52.330 --> 0:33:53.370
<v Speaker 2>commerce via the.

0:33:53.270 --> 0:33:54.990
<v Speaker 1>Seas, is working.

0:33:55.570 --> 0:33:58.730
<v Speaker 2>First of all, the oil shipments through the Straits of

0:33:58.750 --> 0:34:01.950
<v Speaker 2>Hormuz are at roughly 80% of what they were before

0:34:02.230 --> 0:34:07.480
<v Speaker 2>the war. That 20 percent that's missing is substantially Iran's

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:11.010
<v Speaker 2>own shipments, which we are choking off. So we have

0:34:11.130 --> 0:34:14.029
<v Speaker 2>control of the straight or so it would seem. It's

0:34:14.070 --> 0:34:17.770
<v Speaker 2>not perfect. It's not unimpeachable control, but it's control.

0:34:17.850 --> 0:34:20.149
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't understand that. That's a misleading stat that,

0:34:20.210 --> 0:34:22.210
<v Speaker 1>of course, the mainstream media is not making clear to

0:34:22.250 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 1>you that when it's at 80 percent, that's as good

0:34:24.780 --> 0:34:26.500
<v Speaker 1>as it can get because the rest of it was

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Iran's oil and we don't want it to get out.

0:34:29.980 --> 0:34:31.500
<v Speaker 1>It's certainly close, yeah.

0:34:31.820 --> 0:34:34.390
<v Speaker 2>Iran used to export about 2 million barrels of oil

0:34:34.430 --> 0:34:36.050
<v Speaker 2>per day through the strait.

0:34:36.330 --> 0:34:37.770
<v Speaker 1>Today the number is zero.

0:34:37.950 --> 0:34:38.189
<v Speaker 4>Good.

0:34:38.270 --> 0:34:40.250
<v Speaker 2>Not to mention all the other commodities that move in

0:34:40.270 --> 0:34:44.410
<v Speaker 2>and out of Iran by sea or by air because

0:34:44.750 --> 0:34:47.489
<v Speaker 2>no airlines are flying in or out now either thanks

0:34:47.510 --> 0:34:51.030
<v Speaker 2>to our blockade. And as Aaron McLean makes the point

0:34:51.630 --> 0:34:57.799
<v Speaker 2>in the free press, it appears, and who knows, we're

0:34:57.820 --> 0:35:01.710
<v Speaker 2>talking about dead-ender religious fanatics, It appears Iran is getting very,

0:35:01.850 --> 0:35:03.550
<v Speaker 2>very close to the point where they.

0:35:03.430 --> 0:35:07.109
<v Speaker 1>Do have to make a deal. Right. Or things will

0:35:07.150 --> 0:35:10.930
<v Speaker 1>crumble internally. Treasury Secretary Scott Besson saying the other day,

0:35:10.989 --> 0:35:13.210
<v Speaker 1>they're down to their last two weeks of oil that

0:35:13.230 --> 0:35:15.430
<v Speaker 1>they got out there on boats somewhere. And when that's gone,

0:35:15.469 --> 0:35:17.690
<v Speaker 1>they've got nothing to trade. Nothing.

0:35:17.750 --> 0:35:18.469
<v Speaker 3>Right. Right.

0:35:19.090 --> 0:35:22.270
<v Speaker 2>So more on that topic. Speaking of Scott Besson and

0:35:22.310 --> 0:35:25.890
<v Speaker 2>the Treasury Department, he kicks ass, by the way. Speaking

0:35:25.930 --> 0:35:30.100
<v Speaker 2>of Trump, Trump gets zero credit. For all of the,

0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:34.260
<v Speaker 2>you know, gay people or women or whatever, he appoints

0:35:34.340 --> 0:35:38.489
<v Speaker 2>to incredibly high office. And I don't care. I want

0:35:38.510 --> 0:35:40.170
<v Speaker 2>Scott Besson to be good at his job. I don't

0:35:40.210 --> 0:35:43.450
<v Speaker 2>care who he finds himself romantically attracted to.

0:35:43.489 --> 0:35:44.410
<v Speaker 1>It's all idiotic.

0:35:44.730 --> 0:35:46.969
<v Speaker 2>But if you're going to fixate on that, how about

0:35:46.989 --> 0:35:49.750
<v Speaker 2>you give a little credit where it's due, you lying hypocrites?

0:35:50.110 --> 0:35:51.209
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, back to Iran.

0:35:51.510 --> 0:35:54.469
<v Speaker 2>It's increasingly difficult for commercial airlines to fly in or

0:35:54.590 --> 0:35:58.010
<v Speaker 2>out of Iran, and few international carriers fly there at all.

0:35:58.410 --> 0:36:01.339
<v Speaker 2>The regime's financial system is also in a vice. The

0:36:01.380 --> 0:36:04.420
<v Speaker 2>Iranian rial fell to a record low against the dollar.

0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 2>The day before the war began in February, it was

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 2>like 1.7 rial for a dollar.

0:36:10.700 --> 0:36:12.799
<v Speaker 1>Now it's 2.5.

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 2>Radical devotion to a revolutionary cause can take a regime far,

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:19.320
<v Speaker 2>but even deeply ruthless and motivated ruling cliques need cash

0:36:19.380 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 2>to pay their gunmen and the bureaucrats, and they are

0:36:22.420 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 2>rapidly running out of it.

0:36:24.910 --> 0:36:29.379
<v Speaker 1>Cool? Of course, the idea would be that they make

0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:32.759
<v Speaker 1>some sort of deal. But if they collapse, because there

0:36:32.820 --> 0:36:37.300
<v Speaker 1>is talk that protests have started again in various places. Right.

0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:41.950
<v Speaker 2>In spite of watching 40,000 of your countrymen gunned down

0:36:41.989 --> 0:36:44.230
<v Speaker 2>in the streets, you're like, F it, I've had enough.

0:36:44.290 --> 0:36:47.410
<v Speaker 1>I'm going out to the streets. Ooh, that's discontent. You

0:36:47.510 --> 0:36:52.930
<v Speaker 1>are brave and a patriot. But if the regime collapses,

0:36:53.030 --> 0:36:54.350
<v Speaker 1>nobody knows what that would look like.

0:36:55.210 --> 0:36:55.490
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:36:55.770 --> 0:36:56.110
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:36:57.590 --> 0:37:02.790
<v Speaker 2>One one should mention the proxies when one discusses Iran

0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:06.739
<v Speaker 2>and they they are hoovers. They suck up cash like

0:37:06.780 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 2>crazy for weapons and paying their gunmen and food and

0:37:09.660 --> 0:37:12.860
<v Speaker 2>the rest of it. So and what's really interesting is

0:37:12.900 --> 0:37:19.089
<v Speaker 2>the Gulf states increasingly openly everybody. But that's not Iran

0:37:19.180 --> 0:37:21.710
<v Speaker 2>is saying, yeah, you know, we'd all be better off.

0:37:21.770 --> 0:37:22.410
<v Speaker 1>We could all live.

0:37:22.850 --> 0:37:25.910
<v Speaker 2>Embrace the future and like develop our economies and keep

0:37:25.930 --> 0:37:28.169
<v Speaker 2>hold of our regimes if Iran was out of here.

0:37:28.610 --> 0:37:31.799
<v Speaker 2>So there are more and more noises about cooperating with

0:37:31.820 --> 0:37:32.240
<v Speaker 2>the U.S.

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:36.440
<v Speaker 1>And Israel. We've teased like five different interesting things we've

0:37:36.460 --> 0:37:38.320
<v Speaker 1>got coming up in the rest of the show, including

0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:42.780
<v Speaker 1>the murder conviction of that former American Idol star who

0:37:43.050 --> 0:37:45.450
<v Speaker 1>clearly killed his wife. I mean, I don't know why

0:37:45.489 --> 0:37:48.350
<v Speaker 1>the jury had to deliberate for three hours. Maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to get a free lunch out of it or something.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a pretty clear cut case. I've got a

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<v Speaker 1>better one than that.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, really?

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you about it, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool.

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