WEBVTT - What the candidates think about California's Insurance Crisis

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<v Speaker 1>And we continue at one five in the afternoon on

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<v Speaker 1>The John Phillips Show, Mister Randy Weggs in Culver City. John.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a few minutes ago, at a press conference about

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<v Speaker 2>Earth Day, current California Governor Gavin Newsom was asked who

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<v Speaker 2>he likes in the governor's race and if he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to watch tonight's debate on next Star.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm supporting a Democrat in the runoff and look forward

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<v Speaker 3>to the voters making that decision very shortly.

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<v Speaker 1>What if it's two of them or what if it's

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<v Speaker 1>none of them? Boy, he has opinions on everything, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to Iran or Donald Trump, or Ice or

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<v Speaker 1>all of these subjects that really don't have much to

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<v Speaker 1>do with state politics. But if you ask him a

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<v Speaker 1>question about state politics, he turns into Switzerland.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and his press team likes to comment on anything

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<v Speaker 2>and everything that's trending on social media.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't have a damn thing to say about Swell. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Well the handcuffs who are on? Is? He don't think

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<v Speaker 1>there will be one? Absolutely, confident of that, Shangy, Can

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<v Speaker 1>I get an assist on that. I don't think there

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<v Speaker 1>will be one.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. There are a lot of outstanding candidates with extraordinary records.

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<v Speaker 1>I can name fact check. Yeah, how about that CNN

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<v Speaker 1>article where you said that if Katie Porter gets elected,

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<v Speaker 1>she's going to drive all the businesses out of state. No,

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<v Speaker 1>or that Javier Baccaria was an awful attorney general.

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<v Speaker 3>There are a lot of outstanding candidates with extraordinary records.

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<v Speaker 3>I can name seven of them, though I think there

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<v Speaker 3>were nine with Betty Now, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Who was the other person that dropped out?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that would be Calderon. He's the one Calderon

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<v Speaker 1>that's not in prison.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he's he's specifically not talking about Swallwell oh, yes, yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Because as as someone that's grown up in state of California,

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<v Speaker 3>I had an opportunity to work with every single person

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<v Speaker 3>that is running for that office, and had the privilege

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<v Speaker 3>of working and partnering with them in many different capacities

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<v Speaker 3>over many many years. And I respect to respect their

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<v Speaker 3>willingness to put themselves out and looking forward to the

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<v Speaker 3>debate tonight, and I'm looking forward to where the voters

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<v Speaker 3>ultimately land.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy, he sounds so checked out as soon as you

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<v Speaker 2>ask him about anything going on in California.

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<v Speaker 1>What is he going to do if he runs for

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<v Speaker 1>president and loses. Podcast. That's what that's all about. Backup plan,

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<v Speaker 1>baby with that voice. He loves it. Okay, this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>like a new thing for him. When he was lieutenant governor,

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<v Speaker 1>he had that TV show on Al Gore's network, Current TV.

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<v Speaker 1>When he was mayor of San Francisco, he would do

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<v Speaker 1>a monthly radio show. He loves the medium of broadcasting.

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<v Speaker 1>You think he'd want to fill in for us when

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<v Speaker 1>we're on vacation.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they do say to always make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>the person fills in for you is not as good

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<v Speaker 2>as you, So that'd be great for us.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think I had in mind? Eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>two two two five two two two is a telephone number?

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<v Speaker 5>One?

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<v Speaker 1>Eight hundred two two two five two two two. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>tonight is debate night for all the candidates running for governor.

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<v Speaker 1>And we know that the likely scenario is that Katie

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<v Speaker 1>Porter is going to attack Tom Steyer. We know that

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Steyer is going to attack Javy or Besserah. We

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<v Speaker 1>know that Steve Hilton is going to attack Chad Bianco.

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<v Speaker 1>There's gonna be a lot of attacking going on. There's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a lot of references to Donald Trump and

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<v Speaker 1>to Ice, maybe even to the war in Iran, but

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<v Speaker 1>California issues that impact California residents probably won't get discussed

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<v Speaker 1>in great detail. One of the subjects that should get

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<v Speaker 1>discussed in great detail is the state's insurance crisis. None

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<v Speaker 1>of us, oh, we know, none of us can buy insurance.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter if you're a homeowner, a small business owner, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>The state is quickly becoming uninsurable. Our current insurance Commissioner,

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<v Speaker 1>Ricardo Laura, would rather spend his time with DJ Kitty

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<v Speaker 1>Glitter than fixing the problem. Gavin Newsom, as at a

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<v Speaker 1>point of official policy, has delegated the job of fixing

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<v Speaker 1>the insurance crisis to Ricardo Laura. Clearly that's not working,

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<v Speaker 1>and whoever becomes governor next is going to have a great,

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<v Speaker 1>big mess on their hands. So what they think about

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<v Speaker 1>the insurance crisis actually matters.

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<v Speaker 2>Julie Watts of CBS News Investigates sat down with every

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<v Speaker 2>single candidate a few months ago and has asked them

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<v Speaker 2>every a old, every single candidate, the same questions, and

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<v Speaker 2>instead of releasing here's an interview with Tom Steyer, here's

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<v Speaker 2>an interview with Katie Porter, and yes, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>see that whole interview. She has released these compilations where

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<v Speaker 2>she talks to every single candidate about one specific issue.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of the things that I've noticed they've been

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<v Speaker 2>doing is that when somebody gets taken away by the

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<v Speaker 2>OPA lumpas and the field gets shorter, they release a

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<v Speaker 2>new video and edit the old person out. So, without

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<v Speaker 2>further ado, here is Julie Watts of CBS News California Investigates,

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<v Speaker 2>which I just saw in her email. She's officially the

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<v Speaker 2>California accountability correspondent and I love that. Here is what

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<v Speaker 2>every candidate has to say about insurance, starting with Steve Hilton.

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<v Speaker 2>Although I didn't need to say that, you could tell

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<v Speaker 2>he's the British guy.

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<v Speaker 6>Insur insurance, insurance.

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<v Speaker 7>What do you do to stabilize California's insurance market without

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<v Speaker 7>pushing insurers out of California. We're looking at folks who

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<v Speaker 7>cannot get insurance. How do you keep insurance companies in

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<v Speaker 7>California while still keeping rates down in a world where

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<v Speaker 7>we're seeing climate driven disasters. You have people who live

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<v Speaker 7>here who say I cannot afford to pay the prices

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<v Speaker 7>that they are charging you have a private industry that

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<v Speaker 7>does not have to work here, saying if you keep

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<v Speaker 7>building expensive homes and your burnable things, we cannot ensure that.

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<v Speaker 8>No, but there's so many common sense things you can do,

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<v Speaker 8>for example, So there was I think there's some ledge,

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, I need to dig into it, but that's

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<v Speaker 8>someone in the issuance.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, you need to dig into it. You know the

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<v Speaker 1>policy on everything. Yeah, he certainly does offer more details

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<v Speaker 1>of the rest of them.

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<v Speaker 8>I think there's some ledge, I mean, I need to

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<v Speaker 8>dig into it, but that someone in the insurance industry

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<v Speaker 8>was telling me that there's a legislation that actually that

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<v Speaker 8>stops something incredibly common sense being done, which is defensible

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<v Speaker 8>space being put around new building in those errors. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 8>as I understand it, that the LAARA, the insurance Commissioner,

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<v Speaker 8>has finally made the changes in how insurance companies can

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<v Speaker 8>prise future.

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<v Speaker 2>Risk, and that hasn't taken anybody off the fair place,

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<v Speaker 2>and it isn't making insurance any more available.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, No, RICARDA. Laura is not the authority on

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<v Speaker 1>anything except for maybe certain items that can be purchased

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<v Speaker 1>in Colombia. I'm very kind of sketch you cannot delegate

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<v Speaker 1>this very important issue to a buffoon like him. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's got to be hard for the Republican candidates to

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<v Speaker 2>even talk about this because what Ricardo Laura has done

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<v Speaker 2>is given the insurance companies everything they want and they're

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<v Speaker 2>still screwing us over and they're still not paying out claims.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, a lot of people have been asking for for

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<v Speaker 8>many years.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, you know, that's.

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<v Speaker 6>Sort of a separate issue, but I mean, but.

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<v Speaker 8>Let's let's get you know, there's a massive issue for

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<v Speaker 8>so many Californias. Either these insanely high premiums they're paying

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<v Speaker 8>or they can't get in short a tool and they're

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<v Speaker 8>on the Fair Plan. And we know that the the

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<v Speaker 8>state we're on Fair Plan is a disaster. If anything

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<v Speaker 8>goes roll, that's a massive financial liability.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a huge problem.

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<v Speaker 2>And in fact, Ricardo Lara was the one that changed

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<v Speaker 2>the rules right before the big Palisades and Eden fires

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<v Speaker 2>where it used to be the Fair Plan, which by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, is not a state plan. It is a

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<v Speaker 2>consortium of the insurance companies created after the Watts riots,

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<v Speaker 2>and the whole deal was okay, if you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to ensure them. You have to have this company insure

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<v Speaker 2>them as the insurer last resort.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you put too many.

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<v Speaker 2>People on that plan and that plan goes belly up,

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<v Speaker 2>you're on the hook for it. Ricardo Lara changed the

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<v Speaker 2>rules to say that the ratepayers are on the hook

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<v Speaker 2>for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and what's so wild about insurance right now is

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<v Speaker 1>we get the worst of both worlds. We have regulations

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<v Speaker 1>that determine what the insurance companies can charge you, which

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not in favor of price control, so I would

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<v Speaker 1>never vote for that. But fine, that's the law. So

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<v Speaker 1>what do we do. We allow them to raise the

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<v Speaker 1>rates the maximum amount every time they ask. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>historically has happened. However, the insurance companies say that's still

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<v Speaker 1>not enough to cover the actual risk. So when you

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<v Speaker 1>need to file acclaim with your insurance company, they just

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<v Speaker 1>say no, and you have to sue them to get

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<v Speaker 1>anything out of them, which delays the entire process of rebuilding,

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<v Speaker 1>and it costs you a fortune, and it destroys your

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<v Speaker 1>mental health and physical health in the process. How anyone

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<v Speaker 1>could look at this and say this is the model.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand. You can do what Florida does, which

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<v Speaker 1>is probably what I would do, which is get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of a lot of the regulations, which means the premiums

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<v Speaker 1>would go through the roof. However, if you get paid

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<v Speaker 1>on a claim, then you can actually use it. Then

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<v Speaker 1>if something tragic happens to your home and you need

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<v Speaker 1>to rebuild, or you need to do whatever, you can

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<v Speaker 1>actually get money out of the insurance company. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>what it is in cal is it's a box to

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<v Speaker 1>check when you get a loan from a bank. The

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<v Speaker 1>banks require you to have insurance, but it's a product

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<v Speaker 1>that you can't actually use in any realistic way.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say, though, when you look at what happened

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<v Speaker 2>in Florida, and Florida is a different situation because of

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<v Speaker 2>all of the risk of flood, which is a big

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<v Speaker 2>majority of the state. You have a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>who own condos that their insurance premiums tripled, quadrupled in

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<v Speaker 2>the last couple of years to the point where the

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<v Speaker 2>insurance is more than the mortgage payment. And you have

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<v Speaker 2>people trying to sell and leave and nobody wants to buy.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a different set of problems. But right now

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<v Speaker 1>in California, you can't even buy insurance, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>can buy insurance, you can't use it.

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<v Speaker 8>And so I've spoken to the industry about it, and

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<v Speaker 8>the insurance industry tell me that finally they feel that

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<v Speaker 8>some of these longstanding policy mistakes have been corrected.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, like using their own proprietory climate model that we

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<v Speaker 2>don't get to see for them to price their risk.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like that either. And this is also one

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<v Speaker 1>of these weird subjects where the left and the right

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<v Speaker 1>come together. The insurance companies and Greta Thunberg are on

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<v Speaker 1>the same page. They believe that the world is going

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<v Speaker 1>to end eleven years from now. Well, if the world

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<v Speaker 1>is going to end eleven years from now, then you

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<v Speaker 1>can price accordingly. Well, if you're a consumer, that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>work for you, especially if they won't even show you

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<v Speaker 1>their work.

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<v Speaker 8>And so that they're telling me, I mean, we need

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<v Speaker 8>to dig into it more, and perhaps you could.

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<v Speaker 2>Do some investigation, investigation, And she's done a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>investigations on this, Oh yeah, investigation.

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<v Speaker 8>The insurance industry is telling me that actually things are

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<v Speaker 8>getting back to on the track that they feel they're

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<v Speaker 8>going to come back into the state. Yes, rates are

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<v Speaker 8>going to go up, but at least they're going to

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<v Speaker 8>be able to ensure because they can price risk properly.

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<v Speaker 8>So that's what I'm being told.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, let's look at.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're going to get to a point where

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<v Speaker 2>it is so unaffordable to have insurance that people can't

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<v Speaker 2>get a mortgage. And if you can't get a mortgage

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<v Speaker 2>and that industry collapses, what's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's going to be one of these states where

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<v Speaker 1>the extreme bias is to all cash offers. And if

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<v Speaker 1>the only type of person who can buy a property

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<v Speaker 1>is an all cash offer, then you really are going

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<v Speaker 1>to price the middle class out of the state.

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<v Speaker 8>But again, let's look at another component. Why premiums so

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<v Speaker 8>much higher in California Because building costs are so much

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<v Speaker 8>higher in California.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, on this one, he's totally right. Just the cost

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<v Speaker 2>of lumber is more expensive in the state of California,

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<v Speaker 2>which means the cost of rebuild is way higher than

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<v Speaker 2>anyone in Eaton Canyon was covered for.

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<v Speaker 8>So of course, if you're insured a building, like what's

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<v Speaker 8>the replacement.

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<v Speaker 6>And most people are under inshirt because.

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<v Speaker 8>Because it costs so much. So if we bring that

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<v Speaker 8>all these things tied together. If we bring the cost

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<v Speaker 8>of building down, that's another way we can bring insurance

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<v Speaker 8>costs down, because it doesn't it costs so much to

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<v Speaker 8>rebuild in the event that something happens.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things he has advocated for, and it

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<v Speaker 2>sure makes sense to me, is you know, we've got

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<v Speaker 2>all these forests that are way out of control that

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<v Speaker 2>we're not cleaning up. Why don't we reactivate the timber

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<v Speaker 2>industry so there's not as much fuel to burn and

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<v Speaker 2>then we have cheaper lumber that we're not importing from Kanada.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you think about it, yes, land is more

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<v Speaker 2>expensive in California than it is in Utah, Montana, wherever.

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<v Speaker 2>But theoretically the cost of rebuilding should be about the same,

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<v Speaker 2>because the cost of lumber shouldn't be different between one

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<v Speaker 2>state and the next. But just look at gasoline. Look

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<v Speaker 2>at how much more expensive gasoline here is in California

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<v Speaker 2>than everywhere else, and apply the same logic that applies

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<v Speaker 2>to gasoline to other things like timber or whatever, and

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<v Speaker 2>you just run up the costs in this state.

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<v Speaker 9>Sures have to make money. There are two things we

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<v Speaker 9>need to do here, both of them possible, of them

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<v Speaker 9>driven by new technology. And new ideas. One is wildfire control.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a if you can tell we've moved on

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<v Speaker 1>to the most grating voice in the campaign, both.

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<v Speaker 9>Of them driven by new technology and new ideas. One

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<v Speaker 9>is wildfire control. This is a this is a fire ecology.

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<v Speaker 9>They're always going to be fires. What we're trying to

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<v Speaker 9>avoid is devastating fires.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've had some of the most devastating fires in

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<v Speaker 2>the state's history just in the last five years.

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<v Speaker 1>Including in the state's population centers like in Altadena and

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<v Speaker 1>Pacific Palisades.

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<v Speaker 9>And that is something that can be monitored, that can

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<v Speaker 9>be controlled with new technologies. I believe the governor's you know,

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<v Speaker 9>doing it, but I believe we can control.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe you haven't even been following what the governor does. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>And take the fire in the Pacific Palisades. That was

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<v Speaker 1>a complete failure of government. That was the state getting

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<v Speaker 1>involved in something that they had no business getting involved in,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were the ones that are responsible for that

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<v Speaker 1>fire not being fully extinguished.

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<v Speaker 9>You know doing it, But I believe we can control

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<v Speaker 9>devastating fires. That's the actual issue. But the second thing

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<v Speaker 9>is I believe they're new technologies that are quite inexpensive

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<v Speaker 9>and can be financed to harden houses that have an

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<v Speaker 9>incredibly high success rate, way over ninety percent. If that's true,

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<v Speaker 9>and both of those I believe to be true.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, there are technologies like that, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in the opinion of the insurance companies should pay for

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<v Speaker 2>those if it makes their risk much lower. They should

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<v Speaker 2>be buying you the thing that make sure that you

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<v Speaker 2>have the retardant that flies out of your house when

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<v Speaker 2>the fire starts.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I thought we weren't allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to use that word anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Retardent if that's true. The pink stuff, if that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Minute the health insurance companies, they're willing to buy the

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<v Speaker 1>flu shot, they're willing to buy the gym membership up,

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<v Speaker 1>They're willing to pay for any number of things that

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<v Speaker 1>are proactive to keep you out of the er. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you have a point there, Randy, that

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<v Speaker 1>the insurance companies I think would be willing to incur

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<v Speaker 1>at least some of those costs. Oh they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, we never got to it, but there was

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<v Speaker 2>a Julie Watts investigation for a few weeks ago on

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<v Speaker 2>how insurance companies are adding all these things in the

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<v Speaker 2>Bay Area, like earthquake detectors what have you, that you

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<v Speaker 2>have to foot the bill for or they won't cover you.

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<v Speaker 9>If that's true, and both of those I believe to

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<v Speaker 9>be true, we should go to insurance companies. This is

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<v Speaker 9>the biggest insurance market in the United States of America.

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<v Speaker 1>Or when he goes up in Octave, it's even more uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to be here, to be they do not

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<v Speaker 1>want to be here.

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<v Speaker 9>They have to be able to write insurance that makes money.

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<v Speaker 9>The job of the governor is to go to them

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<v Speaker 9>and say, you need to take into account the data.

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<v Speaker 9>We've solved this problem. You can look at it, you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Write, Okay, sef he is the biggest global warming alarmist

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<v Speaker 1>on planet Earth. If he were to get elected and

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<v Speaker 1>they were to use his modeling, the state modeling that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure would come from a styr administration, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think they would use that for?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this shows the disconnect between the billionaire and the

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<v Speaker 2>people who have average means that are running for this office.

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<v Speaker 2>He has no idea what his insurance premiums are and

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't care if they go up three hundred or

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<v Speaker 2>four hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>No, because it's his secretary that's writing the check.

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<v Speaker 9>Anyway, successful in churance, we insist that you'd get the

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<v Speaker 9>data and charge people fairly for the people who've hardened

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<v Speaker 9>their houses. And to take an account the fact that

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<v Speaker 9>we have as a state dealt with devastating wildfires.

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<v Speaker 1>We have not dealt with devastating wildfires. All right, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>have more from the candidates on the subject of the

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<v Speaker 1>insurance crisis coming up in moments each the John phil

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<v Speaker 1>through the interviews between the candidates for governor and CBS

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<v Speaker 1>News is Julie Watts on the subject of California's insurance crisis.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get back to the candidates.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think we need to think about Oh, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Whose turn it is, it's our girl. Oh and yes,

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<v Speaker 2>in case you were wondering, this is the same interview.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just you know they released the clips of it

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the year, but this is the exact same interview

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<v Speaker 2>where Katie Porter ripped off the microphone and said, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to do this anymore.

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<v Speaker 6>Well to those voters, Okay, so, so I don't want

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<v Speaker 6>to keep doing this. I'm gonna call it. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>You're not gonna do the interview with them.

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<v Speaker 9>Nope, not like this.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not not with seven follow ups to every single

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<v Speaker 5>question you.

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<v Speaker 1>Ask America's sweetheart. I think there will be a moment

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<v Speaker 1>in tonight's debate like that, God willing.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think we need to think about changing some

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<v Speaker 5>of the rules around how insurance companies function in California.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the proposal that the Insurance Commissioner rolled out

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<v Speaker 5>is the right one.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, no, what alternate universe are we living in

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<v Speaker 1>where Ricardo Laura is being treated like some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>elder statesman. It's really bizarre.

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<v Speaker 6>The Insurance Commissioner rolled out you.

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<v Speaker 2>Have what may be the most inapt and corrupt member

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<v Speaker 2>of the entire state government, and that's saying something being

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<v Speaker 2>propped up because they all know that this is a disaster,

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<v Speaker 2>so they want to say this is Ricardo's plan. But

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<v Speaker 2>no one wants to go after because if they come

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<v Speaker 2>up with their own plan, then they'll own the crisis.

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<v Speaker 1>And mind you, the position that all of these candidates

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<v Speaker 1>are taking is the same position that Gavin took the.

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<v Speaker 5>Insurance Commissioner rolled out is the right one. I think

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<v Speaker 5>it came too late. We've already seen too many exits.

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<v Speaker 5>We've already seen rates go up too soon.

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<v Speaker 2>I support the wildfire and one of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>he authorizes that rates can go up faster.

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<v Speaker 1>If they have a hearing that he doesn't attend, and

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<v Speaker 1>prior to the hearing actually starting, he said he was

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<v Speaker 1>going to give him their rate increase.

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<v Speaker 5>I support the wildfire fund. I think that's going to

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<v Speaker 5>be a big part of having a planning case of

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<v Speaker 5>catastrophic wildfire, so that our insurers know that that fund

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<v Speaker 5>is going to be there for them, and people who

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<v Speaker 5>lose their homes know that fund is going to be

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<v Speaker 5>there for them. That fund needs to be recapitalized and restarted.

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<v Speaker 5>That's up right now for debates.

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<v Speaker 2>So that means that what we're going to have the

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<v Speaker 2>insurance companies are getting pretty much reinsurance from us. This

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<v Speaker 2>is so screwed up. No, I'm telling you the entire

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<v Speaker 2>industry is a house of cards. And if we're at

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<v Speaker 2>a point where nothing is insurable and the companies really

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<v Speaker 2>can't make any money anymore unless they raise rates to

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<v Speaker 2>the point where no one can afford a mortgage, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what we do.

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<v Speaker 5>That fund needs to be recapitalized and restarted. That's up

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<v Speaker 5>right now for debate in the legislature, and I support

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<v Speaker 5>that fund. Ultimately, I think we're going to have to

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<v Speaker 5>be realistic. The costs of insurance are going up in

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<v Speaker 5>many places. That's not just true in California. That climate

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<v Speaker 5>change is happening everywhere. But the way to bring costs

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<v Speaker 5>down is to make sure we have a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>companies in the marketplace competing on price.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're Shure, Wants, Adriana and Veronica competing over your rate.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about a cage match.

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<v Speaker 5>So we're not going to be able to bring the

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<v Speaker 5>price down unless we retain those companies.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to so we can't bring the companies

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<v Speaker 2>back unless they can charge us as much as they're

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<v Speaker 2>charging in Florida. Great, all right, let's see if Mayheon

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<v Speaker 2>has a better answer. So far, I'm not impressed with anybody,

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<v Speaker 2>and usually they always frontload these things with the front

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<v Speaker 2>runner candidate, So it's Steve Hilton, and usually you're impressed

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<v Speaker 2>by everything he says. And I wasn't impressed with that either.

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<v Speaker 10>So we're going to have to bring back the private

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<v Speaker 10>insurance market. And it's comparable to what we're seeing in energy.

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<v Speaker 10>If we don't have a functioning, competitive market, prices go up,

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<v Speaker 10>and pretty soon we're overly reliant on government to provide services,

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<v Speaker 10>and we don't have the resources to do at the

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<v Speaker 10>scale we would need. We'll have to allow the private

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<v Speaker 10>sector to come back into the insurance market in California.

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<v Speaker 10>That means we have to build a price risk and

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<v Speaker 10>that's not easy. But folks who are living out in

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<v Speaker 10>fire zones, we'll have to pay more. I think the

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<v Speaker 10>state can help offset that by investing in those fire

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<v Speaker 10>breaks and doing more vegetation management to reduce catastrophic risk.

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<v Speaker 1>If way, I like that. So far, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>most coherent answer, and by the way, apropol of nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think part of the problem that we have in

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<v Speaker 1>California is that our elected leaders look at insurance companies

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<v Speaker 1>the same way they look at utilities. Utilities will always

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<v Speaker 1>have to do business in California. This is where their

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<v Speaker 1>equipment is, this is where their customers are. They just

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<v Speaker 1>can't pick up their equipment and move to Nevada or

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<v Speaker 1>Delaware or some other state. But with insurance companies, they

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<v Speaker 1>can pull out of the market, and it's quite easy

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<v Speaker 1>for them to do so. And we've seen that happen

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<v Speaker 1>with State Farm. We've seen it happen with Farmers. Others

0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:41.879
<v Speaker 1>have threatened to do the same thing. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>act as if they can't leave the market, if you

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<v Speaker 1>act as if their equipment is here and they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be here forever, you're going to be disappointed.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it's actually even worse than that because reporting that

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<v Speaker 2>we found out was when Ricardo Laura was crafting his

0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:03.800
<v Speaker 2>system staintable insurance strategy for the last three years, he

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<v Speaker 2>let the executives at State Farm know what he was doing,

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<v Speaker 2>and it actually gave them an incentive to set the

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<v Speaker 2>table for why we needed these regulations. They actually had

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<v Speaker 2>a vested interest in dropping everybody in twenty twenty three

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:22.399
<v Speaker 2>and twenty twenty four, so Ricarlo Laura could say, we

0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:25.159
<v Speaker 2>need to give them everything they're asking for. This is

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:26.520
<v Speaker 2>a straight up conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 10>If we have fewer catastrophic fires in the coming years,

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<v Speaker 10>we will not only save lives and property, but we

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<v Speaker 10>will see rates start to come down. And so the

0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:39.440
<v Speaker 10>state has to play How.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he only at five percent? What is wrong with

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<v Speaker 1>the state because writing this Democratic candidate talking about California issues,

0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:52.400
<v Speaker 1>there's no appetite at all among Democratic voters for that, unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 10>And so the state has to play a role in

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<v Speaker 10>better reducing large fire risk.

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<v Speaker 9>And cat catastrophic loss.

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<v Speaker 10>Also, though, need to have a functioning market where private

0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 10>insurance companies are competing for people's business versus what we

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:09.399
<v Speaker 10>have today, or where government's the only backstop and we

0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 10>don't have the funds to actually deal with the amount

0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:13.280
<v Speaker 10>of need that's out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so if you remember these so so far, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the most coherent answer from Matt Mahan.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, don't forget what we learned from

0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 1>James Gallagher, who is the Assembly Republican leader, former Assembly

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Republican leader who also represents Paradise, California. He said on

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:34.600
<v Speaker 1>this program that the Fair Plan is insolvent, which means

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:37.560
<v Speaker 1>they can't pay you if they owe you money and

0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:42.480
<v Speaker 1>they're your insurance company. And something bad happens, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Whose turn it is, the surging candidate, the one that

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 2>the machine seems to be getting behind.

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<v Speaker 1>Plan d Javier Bakeria scrub it.

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<v Speaker 11>So if you remember, the insurance market is based on

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<v Speaker 11>spreading risk, right, the more people you have, the more

0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:01.240
<v Speaker 11>you can spread the risk.

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:02.639
<v Speaker 9>Somebody has a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>It sure seems like every single issue. He has just

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<v Speaker 2>the most basic, rudimentary understanding of it.

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:13.200
<v Speaker 1>Yep. And this guy is the new one that everyone's looking.

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:14.760
<v Speaker 1>He's the shiny new object.

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<v Speaker 11>So if you remember, the insurance market is based on uh,

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:22.120
<v Speaker 11>spreading risk, right, the more people you have, the more

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 11>you can spread the risk. Somebody has a problem, You

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:27.440
<v Speaker 11>got a whole bunch of other folks who don't spreading risk. Okay,

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:30.160
<v Speaker 11>you can still make money, So the insurance industry can

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:31.920
<v Speaker 11>still make money. They just have to know how to

0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:33.680
<v Speaker 11>spread the risk. And what we have to make sure

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:35.879
<v Speaker 11>is that when we pay them, they're not using that

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:38.720
<v Speaker 11>money to make investments outside of our state. You want

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:40.920
<v Speaker 11>money from us, let us show us that you're putting

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:43.560
<v Speaker 11>the money back in California. So do what I always

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:45.480
<v Speaker 11>keep saying to you. You got to bring folks in

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 11>early let's take a look at what you're saying. Your

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:50.920
<v Speaker 11>problem is insurance industry and stay in California. Okay, show

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 11>me your books and if you're telling you, if you're

0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:55.119
<v Speaker 11>telling me, we're not letting you charge enough, show me

0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 11>and we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I guess he needs to scrub it. Oh,

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:06.080
<v Speaker 1>we're going to do some scrub a dub dub and

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 1>scrub it.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's what Ricardo Laura. So he's doing right now.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean to support what the Insurancemission's doing right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you, but Sarah doesn't even know who

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:17.960
<v Speaker 1>the insurance commissioner is. Nope, I can't tell you. I

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 1>know everything that the insurance Commissioner's doing.

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<v Speaker 11>What I can't tell you is there are still people.

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing how many people that are running for governor

0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 2>do not know. We'll openly admit that they don't know

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:30.480
<v Speaker 2>anything about what's going on in the state. How could

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:34.920
<v Speaker 2>you not even familiarize yourself with this information before you

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:36.879
<v Speaker 2>put your name on the ballot to run the state.

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 2>If you don't think this is a priority issue, you're

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:45.600
<v Speaker 2>not paying attention. Now for the average California voter, it

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:48.160
<v Speaker 2>may not be a priority issue, and that's how we

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 2>are where we are.

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you I know everything that the insurance

0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Commissioner's doing.

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<v Speaker 11>What I can't tell you is there are still people

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 11>in the Pacific Palisades in Altadena who haven't yet heard

0:28:57.320 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 11>from their insurance company about when they're going to get

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 11>their money or how much they're going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Get Yes, and the Insurance Commissioner is not doing a

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 2>damn thing about that.

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Isn't that the job of the California Department of

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Insurance to make sure that the insurance companies fulfill their

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 1>contractual obligations, And that I.

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:16.800
<v Speaker 11>Would never let stand. I would do what I did

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:20.360
<v Speaker 11>as secretary, where I had to bring in industry titans

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 11>and said, you have a problem, we have to resolve it.

0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 11>We're not leaving this room until we come up with

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<v Speaker 11>a solution.

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<v Speaker 9>We did that.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to tell the companies you're grounded. Yeah, I'm

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 1>sure State Farm will quiver. There's not a whole lot

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 1>of policy coming out of Besarah No, and don't expect

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 1>to hear much from him tonight either.

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 11>We could do that again with the insurance insurance industry

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 11>and say, at least even if I don't have, by

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 11>law the right to say this. I can say, Look,

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 11>you don't want me to go out as governor and

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 11>say that you aren't willing to tell your own customers

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 11>when they can expect to receive their check for their

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 11>burned house, that burn, you know, six months ago.

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 9>This is how we got here.

0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's time for mister peanut. All right, We're gonna

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 1>take a quick break, and when we return, we'll tell

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 1>you what mister Peanut has to say about California's insurance crisis.

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 1>Right now, we're going through the sound of all the

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 1>candidates running for governor and what their opinions are on

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 1>California's insurance crisis as they explain it. To CBS News

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 1>is Julie Watts.

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 2>And it's time for He won't be on the debate

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 2>stage tonight, but let's hear what he has to say. Anyway,

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 2>recent guest of this show and Tonio Viragosa, pnut.

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<v Speaker 9>This is how we got here.

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<v Speaker 12>Until just recently, we didn't do catastrophic modeling in this state.

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 12>Every other state in the country did catastrophic modeling because

0:30:56.760 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 12>we're living in a world of climate change, you know, from.

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Florida already, I feel this answer is getting expensive me too.

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:09.520
<v Speaker 9>You know, from Florida, it's hurricanes. Here, it's fires.

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 2>Two used to be earthquakes, but nobody even talks about

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 2>earthquakes in this state anymore.

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 1>It's been a while since we've had a big one,

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 1>and I hope we just didn't chink. So us knock

0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 1>on wood right now? Okay, hang on? Oh wait, no,

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:25.960
<v Speaker 1>that's tile two.

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<v Speaker 9>We didn't allow reinsurance.

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:32.200
<v Speaker 13>Every state allowed reinsurance.

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 6>Why allow them to charge for reinsurance? No, to pass

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 6>on the cost of reinsurance to the consumer.

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 9>No, we didn't allow them.

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Someone's confused, I can tell.

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Look, there is a very very real thought to when

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 2>everyone was looking at all of the candidates after Swallwell

0:31:56.920 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 2>dropped out, it is obvious that even though he has

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 2>a big resume, and even though he is pretty damn

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 2>charming in person, Tony is old.

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 1>And it comes out well, he's saying that he would

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>only serve one term. Yeah, that doesn't ever work to reinsure.

0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 7>Well, they're all reinsured, but we didn't allow them to

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 7>charge us. So, in other words, I'm not paying for

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:25.600
<v Speaker 7>state farms reassurance.

0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and Ricardo Laura has decided that we should pay

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 2>for that cost as well, because if you want to

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 2>know what the house of cards really is here, insurance

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 2>companies have insurance.

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<v Speaker 13>Three three.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes We just had a Jerry Brown moment, a

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 1>couple of them.

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:53.600
<v Speaker 9>It take poor guy across the country.

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:57.920
<v Speaker 2>The average got to show you the draw of power

0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:01.480
<v Speaker 2>for these people is so strong, all of these. You know,

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 2>someone like Antonio Viragosa, he's got money, he could go,

0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, live on an island somewhere with as many

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:10.480
<v Speaker 2>reporters from Telemundo as he wants.

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 1>But he wants this. He wants to go back to

0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Sacramento in his seventies. I don't know why anyone who

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:22.280
<v Speaker 1>means would even want this job. To run this basket

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 1>case of a state.

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<v Speaker 12>Across the country, the average time that it takes to

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 12>raise rates is three months in the state.

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 6>It's more than it was more than a year.

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<v Speaker 2>So so what Tony's saying is that everything that voters

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:39.960
<v Speaker 2>passed in Prop One O three is bad.

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Consumer Watchdog's not gonna like that.

0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 9>We brought us to some of this.

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 13>Now we have Prop one oh three, and so we

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 13>have an opportunity to obviously, you know, review rate hikes

0:33:57.480 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 13>to make sure they're not price gouging, and I will

0:34:00.400 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 13>never support price gouging. But when the entire market leads

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:08.319
<v Speaker 13>because of those three issues, and disproportionately by the way,

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 13>then you know you have a problem.

0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:12.800
<v Speaker 9>And we should have seen this coming.

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 1>So Tony's answer is, yes, you should all be paying

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:20.399
<v Speaker 1>a hell of a lot more. Here's what's so weird

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 1>about his campaign. His campaign is half a loaf on

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 1>every subject. It is clearly what's going on in Sacramento

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:33.800
<v Speaker 1>right now isn't working. Climate change, climate change, climate change,

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 1>We need to incorporate that into the pricing. I don't

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 1>know who you make happy with that. It's like what

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 1>he did with Prop thirty six, and he said crime

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 1>is a problem. What the legislature wants to do doesn't

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 1>go far enough. Prop thirty six goes too far. Well,

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:53.080
<v Speaker 1>what does that mean?

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:57.040
<v Speaker 4>You know two things can be true at once.

0:34:57.360 --> 0:34:59.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh it's time for the other recent guest of this show.

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:02.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, what's the opposite of a bump.

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 1>A slump?

0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Tony Thurman and Tony V both appeared on this

0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:13.400
<v Speaker 2>show and then went down in the balls.

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:19.239
<v Speaker 1>Correlation does not equal causation. I just thought i'd pointed out.

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:21.440
<v Speaker 4>You know two things can be true at once. The

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:24.759
<v Speaker 4>insurance industry has to pay more. They've earned so much

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:27.239
<v Speaker 4>money off of Californias, and then to pick up and

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:30.880
<v Speaker 4>leave in our moment of greatest need is unacceptable, and

0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 4>I will hold them to account and with more regulation

0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 4>and more pressure at the same time.

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:36.719
<v Speaker 5>We need.

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 2>No one wants to even get on the bully pulpit

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:41.440
<v Speaker 2>and call out State Farm, which I find to be

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:42.640
<v Speaker 2>really strange.

0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, why is it. They're willing to go after big tobacco,

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:51.360
<v Speaker 1>they're willing to go after big oil, but for whatever reason,

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:54.840
<v Speaker 1>State Farm ho if you talk to any of the

0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 1>fire victims, is one of the worst actors there. They're

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 1>not willing to go after them by name.

0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:05.600
<v Speaker 4>At the same time, we need to learn to build differently.

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:08.879
<v Speaker 4>Wildfire is part of our new normal in the state

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 4>of California, and we have to build with materials that

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:14.640
<v Speaker 4>will keep our homes safer. We have to build in

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:15.840
<v Speaker 4>places that are less.

0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:19.280
<v Speaker 1>There is a theory I wonder if the insurance companies

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:23.399
<v Speaker 1>are the ones bankrolling all the environmentalist groups. Oh, that's

0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:29.560
<v Speaker 1>definitely possible. And so if you go after State Farm,

0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 1>you're going after filling the blank and viro group and

0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 1>they don't want any heat with them.

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:39.760
<v Speaker 4>Keep our homes safer, we have to build in places

0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:42.440
<v Speaker 4>that are less likely to be impacted by fire or

0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:46.080
<v Speaker 4>by flood. We have to have enough you know, natural

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:48.960
<v Speaker 4>burns to address areas that could.

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<v Speaker 1>How is Tony Thurman sounding the most common sense on this?

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<v Speaker 1>He's been in state politics for a long time, unlike

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<v Speaker 1>many of the top polling candidates who come from Washington.

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<v Speaker 4>D C.

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<v Speaker 1>Or the private sector.

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<v Speaker 4>Could trigger fire. We have to do all the things

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<v Speaker 4>that we know to keep our community safe.

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<v Speaker 6>Why haven't we done that thus far?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, it's wonderful to say we need to do

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<v Speaker 7>these things, but how do you tangibly do that if

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<v Speaker 7>we haven't been able to do thus far?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think the urgency is certainly upon us, and

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<v Speaker 4>we know that we have to do it. We have

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<v Speaker 4>to educate homebuilders.

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<v Speaker 2>And what he can't say is a good portion of

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<v Speaker 2>the majority bipartisan, the good portion of the legislature bipartisan

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<v Speaker 2>is bought and paid for by the insurance industry.

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<v Speaker 1>He can't say that, No, we have to educate.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember how Ricardo Laura said he wouldn't take any insurance

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<v Speaker 2>company money when he was running for insurance commissioner and

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<v Speaker 2>then took insurance company money.

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<v Speaker 1>He also takes money from the environmentalists too. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's something there.

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<v Speaker 4>We have to educate homebuilders and educate homeowners' perspective, homeowners

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<v Speaker 4>to not put themselves in situations that will keep them unsafe.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's incumbent on us to do all the prevention

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<v Speaker 4>that we can because we don't have enough people, power,

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<v Speaker 4>and resources to keep up with all of the disasters

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<v Speaker 4>that can affect us. And so again, I see it

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<v Speaker 4>as holding the insurance industry accountable in this state, California.

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<v Speaker 2>What does it say when the lowest polling candidate in

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<v Speaker 2>this piece has maybe the best answer.

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<v Speaker 1>It says, we're screwed.