1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the EXCE Learning postgame show as we 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: celebrate the WBC champions My guest, you can hear them 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: on the cambr airwaves. You can see them on television 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: at NBC Bay Area. A superstar with Telemundo, a three 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: time Emmy Award winner. Let's bring in Carlos Romiris. Carlos, 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: how are you today? Bill? 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 2: How's it going good to be with you? Brother? 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: I know, well we talk on you. Put it that way, listen, Man, 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: I got to congratulate you. You were born in Caracas, Venezuela. 10 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: The blood of Venezuela is in you. It was such 11 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: a remarkable championship game, remarkable WBC the tournament. Tell me 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: how you felt when Venezuela won that game? 13 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: Uh, you know what, Bill, It's it's really hard to 14 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: explain because means so much to Venezuelan's for so many reasons. 15 00:00:59,120 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 1: Right. 16 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 2: The country has been playing baseball since the eighteen hundreds. 17 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 2: It was more established through the Phelps family since the 18 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: nineteen twenties when mining and oiling companies brought in their 19 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: first equipment, the first gloves and bats, and the country 20 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 2: has been so baseball center for so long that it's 21 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: One of the things that we really take pride on 22 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 2: or in is we produce high quality talent, high IQ 23 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: players that not just play the game the right way, 24 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: but understand think the game. And I'll just give you 25 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: an example, and my mom, right, I always use your 26 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: Everyone in Venezuela, Bill is born with a team. There 27 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: are eight professional teams in winterball in Venezuela, and every 28 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: single person, everyone is from the second you were born, 29 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: you are designed to think about baseball and you are 30 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: assigned to a team. For instance, my dad who grew 31 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 2: up in London, he's Venezuela, but he was raised in London. 32 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: When he came back to Venezuela in the seventies as 33 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 2: a teenager, was he knew he was a soccer fan, 34 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,399 Speaker 2: but he knew he had to become a baseball fan. 35 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: So he became a fan of a team called the Lara, 36 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: who've always had attachments to in relationships with the Blue 37 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: Jays and the Mariners mainly right, So cut to nineteen 38 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: eighty three, which is the euro was born. Well, my 39 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: dad made me a Cardinals fan, and my sister is 40 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 2: a Cardinals fan, and my two daughters are Cardinals fans, 41 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 2: and my mom is a magau Yannis fan, a team 42 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: where Barry Bonds played in winter ball in Venezuela. Maguyanis 43 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: just won the title this season, and my mom couldn't 44 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: tell you, Bill the name of a player manager to 45 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: save her life. Like if someone came out of her 46 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: at gunpoint and told her name me the give me 47 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: one player of Maayanis or the name of the manager 48 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: to save your life. 49 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: She would perish, Duela. That's really what this is all 50 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: about too. With you look at the champions and how 51 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: much emotion was showing when they won that game, and 52 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: how many people hugged each other and cried on each 53 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: other's shoulders. It was all about Venezuela. And you talked 54 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: about big league players. There's over four hundred per that 55 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: play in Major League Baseball. But you know what, when 56 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: you play for your country, when you play for your brothers, 57 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: when you play for your families, that emotion comes out 58 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: a little bit more. 59 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: Carlos, it's different, Bill, It's different. So I'll give you 60 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: another quick story my mom again with my mom and 61 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: my game with close friends of hers and one of 62 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 2: the ladies in her seventies who was watching the game 63 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 2: was decked in venezuela and gear, had to toe the hat, 64 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 2: the jersey, everything, and was telling my mom, I have 65 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 2: no idea what's happening. I don't understand the rules. 66 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 3: But let's go venezuela because this is baseball. So you 67 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 3: have seventy year old ladies who are decked in gear, 68 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,119 Speaker 3: had to toe h storming the streets after we beat 69 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: Team USA because guess what, we're the champions of the world. 70 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that I mean, imagine if you're a fan 71 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: like me who grew up playing baseball, grew up watching baseball, 72 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 2: who covers baseball, everything in our life is engulfed by baseball, 73 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: and this and this was the historical depth of Venezuela 74 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 2: and baseball. We've had Sight Young's, We've had Gold Glovers, 75 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: We've had MVPs, we have Hall of Famers one Luisa Paricio. 76 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: We should have more like Davey Conceptio and Bobby Abreu. 77 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 2: We're gonna have more. I mean, Salvador Perez will be 78 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer, Miguel Cabrero will be a Hall 79 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: of Famer. I think. I think when it's all said 80 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 2: and done, Al Tuba will be a Hall of Famer. 81 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 2: I think Auna is in his way to becoming a 82 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. I think Francisco Rodriguez should be a 83 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. I think olmar Visquel should be a 84 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. The list goes on and on. 85 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: Well, and you're so right, and you're so right. And 86 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: the one guy, the one guy that I love so 87 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: much is Salvador Perez. You're captain of the team. He 88 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: was a manager on the field. He would tell Omar Lopez, 89 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: hold on here, I got it, let's control the situation. 90 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: He to me, is a epic of a captain. He 91 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: is that kind of guy that's going to lead you 92 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: by example, leads you I experience, and lead you by knowledge. 93 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: How do you feel about him? 94 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:11,119 Speaker 2: That's a special one because this was Salvi's fourth World 95 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: Baseball Classic play the final, because he he wasn't in 96 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,799 Speaker 2: the lineup against Italy in the Sali Final and Omar 97 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: Lopez we did a tremendous job. And I think in 98 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: a very near will be an MLB manager as a 99 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 2: team Venezuela's managers. He's been with the Astros forever. Salvi 100 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 2: said after the game that he can now retire in peace, 101 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: and he meant it. I mean he's not thinking about 102 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 2: it right now, but he's thirty five. And you just 103 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: see the way I mean, look at the starting job 104 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: from Edward Rodriguez in that final, and then the way 105 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: Salvi navigated the bullpen and the job he did, I 106 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: mean Machado's mistaken against Harper. I mean many a picture 107 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: have made the same mistake in this guy and have 108 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 2: paid the same price. But the way that Salvy from 109 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: a defensive standpoint called a magnificent game. Uh, the MVP 110 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: was mikel Garcia the third basement from the Royals. But 111 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: that final, if you asked me, aside from what Eugenio 112 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: Slarez did in the ninth and uh, William A. Brao's 113 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: home run, to me, the big MVP on that final 114 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: was Salvador Perez behind the dish, calling a magnificent game, 115 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: managing the bullpen the way he did. Uh, he was 116 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: just spectacular. And I think you know, five time Gold 117 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: Glover World Series Champ, World Series MVP, and now add 118 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: to the resume a World Baseball Classic Champion. This guy 119 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 2: will be in the Hall of Fame. 120 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: Well, Carlos Jennio Sar. He speaks a lot about religion. 121 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: He speaks about God. He speaks God is good. You know, 122 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: all the world was around us. Religion is very very 123 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: important for the Venezuelans. When I played winter ball there, 124 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: it was spoken so easy, and everybody believed in what 125 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: God would do for him, in the prayers that they 126 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: had in the clubhouse, the arms with the arm strength 127 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: among each other. What was so important about that with 128 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: the Venezuelans. 129 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: Well, faith Venezuela is a primarily Catholic. Faith is very 130 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:31,559 Speaker 2: much ingrained into us since birth, just like baseball and 131 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: prayer in God and religion and pretty much tied up 132 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: the hip everyone has. I mean, we all believe in God, 133 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 2: but everyone has different beliefs in different many ways. He 134 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 2: is a man of faith. He is a man who 135 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: has devoted his life to family, country, baseball, and God 136 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: and faith as well. And when you whether you believe 137 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: it or not, or whether you have a different belief 138 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 2: system if you're Muslim or you're Jewish or whatever, whatever 139 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 2: belief system, again you have in you. Faith is always 140 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 2: big in Venezuela. From myself, I have a tattoo on 141 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,599 Speaker 2: my chest on my left side of the chest, on 142 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: my heart from a virgin which is the patron saint 143 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 2: of the state where I was raised. So everything we 144 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 2: do Bill is either faith driven, faith fueled, or faith induced. 145 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: And some take it deeper, some take it higher, some 146 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: take it wider. And for Gino, because of the things 147 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: he's gone through, because of the way he has lived, 148 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: faith plays u pun intended a primary role in his 149 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: life and the way he goes about his business. 150 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: It was fascinat and Carlo sher Mara is joining me 151 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: on the ex Terrning postgame show. Of course you can 152 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 1: hear him right here on K and BR as well 153 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: as a watching him on NBC Bay Area. As we 154 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: move forward, Venezuela and now is one of the champions, 155 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: one of the best baseball countries, and now they have 156 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: something to prove. What I want to ask you is 157 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: they're more or less with Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico. 158 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: Why did they always feel they were behind them? 159 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: Well, because we were, because the dr had already won. 160 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 2: I think when they took down Puerto Rico, because they 161 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: have more MLB players than Venezuela does, because they have 162 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: more Hall of Famers than Venezuela does. Because some of 163 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: the stars that they've had in the reason past have 164 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 2: you know had a bigger shine than Venezuela when you 165 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 2: look at that lineup, I mean the most expensive player 166 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: in the world. Old with Otani is Dominican and Juan 167 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: Soto and same with Tatis. 168 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: Now do you feel they've stepped up? Now? Do you 169 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: feel that they have slain them drag and now they 170 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: can be proud of what they've just done? 171 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 2: Well, I mean pride is always been there. I think 172 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 2: I met up with Ronald Lacuna Junior. He came for 173 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Uh, he was here in the Bay Area. 174 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: He he is represented by Bad Bunnies Agency. Bad Bunny 175 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: has a sports agency. In this world of multi different 176 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 2: ways of you know, engaging with athletes and musicians, Bad 177 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 2: Bunny owns a sports agency and Ronald lacun is represented 178 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: by Bad Agency. He was here to see Bad Bunny 179 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: in the World Cup and I interviewed Ronald. I know 180 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 2: him well. I saw his dad play tremendous player, not 181 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: as good as his son, but he was really good 182 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 2: Ronald Cuna Senior. And my first question was we have 183 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 2: a debt. I mean, we as a baseball country are 184 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 2: in debt. We had played one semi final back in 185 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 2: two thousand and nine and we lost against Korea. So 186 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: if we are in if we are a baseball nation, 187 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: we are, how do you explain one semi final appearance, 188 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 2: no final appearance, and constantly underperforming. We are in debt 189 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 2: and he said, yes we are, and we are going 190 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: to pay that debt this year. No if ends or butts. 191 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: This was not the best Venezuelan team ever. There have 192 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: been more on paper. I mean it is because they won, 193 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 2: but this wasn't the best roster they've had. I mean 194 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 2: they've had. Maybe this is the first WBC without Miguel 195 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: Carbrera playing. He was a heading coach, but the best 196 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 2: player in Bennesuit in history. Four five cracks at it, 197 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 2: and he couldn't do it. With Viscal and no Han 198 00:12:55,520 --> 00:13:00,719 Speaker 2: Santana and Francisco Rodriguez and Bobby Abreu and Pablo Sandoval 199 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: and Altube and Scutero and Liso and Philly Hernandez and 200 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: Freddie Garstia, he couldn't do it. 201 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: Bill, He's been very impressive players. Every one of those 202 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: players and the groups that they played with the teams 203 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 1: were very impressive. They just couldn't get to that final 204 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: game to win it. But as we finish up with you, Carlos. 205 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: One thing just stood out to me. After the team 206 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: won their gold medals, they all stood there and that 207 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: national anthem was played and every one of those players 208 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: were singing it out loud. What did you feel? You 209 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: were born in Caracas, Venezuela. What did you feel? Did 210 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: you feel love from them? I know you said you cried, 211 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 1: you celebrated, but how did that make you feel when 212 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 1: you saw that. 213 00:13:48,960 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 4: Proud, relieved, joyful, exuberant, filled with love for the country 214 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 4: that brought me the life that raised me. 215 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 2: And and now also I think the biggest thing was relief. 216 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: Bill. 217 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: Really, we had a debt with ourselves. This is the 218 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 2: biggest sporting accomplishment in Venezuela sports history. It's a nation 219 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: that's had multiple goal winning, gold medal winning athletes in 220 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 2: the Olympics. Back in nineteen forty one, the biggest accomplishment 221 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: was the Amateur World Series in Cuba, when Venezuela overtook 222 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: Cuba seven three to two in the final after going 223 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: eight and one in that series. We've had individuals full accomplishments. 224 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: Miguel Cabrera, Jo Han Santana, Fielix Hernandez, Louis Aparicio being 225 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame. We've won World Series, we've 226 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: bought but this is different because this is taken down 227 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: Japan and Otani as a reigning champ, taking down the 228 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: Cinderella story in Italy, and taking down the prohibitive favorites 229 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: in Team USA in the fashion that we did it, 230 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: coming back against Japan, coming back against Italy, coming back 231 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 2: from the Rice Harper home run in the bottom of 232 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: the eighth. This this just resets in the political climate 233 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 2: that Ben's let us going through right now, because that's 234 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: the backdrop. Venezuela has gone through such political turmoil over 235 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: the past three decades, and now with with a change 236 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 2: coming to when it's live in daily life, this is 237 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: just it just feels different. It just feels like, Yeah, 238 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 2: the country is finally getting back to what it should 239 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: have always been, and it's just it's it's liberating. 240 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: Well, it's special, and it's special to you. And I 241 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: thought about you because you and I talked about playing 242 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: in Venezuela growing up in Venezuela when we chatted years ago. 243 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: And again, I want to congratulate you, my friend, because 244 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: this is part of you too, because you were part 245 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: of Venezuela. You were part of Venezuela Baseball and to me, 246 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: to you, my friend, you're a WBC champion. 247 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: Thank you, Bell. I appreciate you, man, I appreciate it. 248 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: That was Carlos Ramirez on the Externing post game show. 249 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: More coming up right here. I'm K ANDBR the Sports 250 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: Leader