Speaker 1: Let's get back to Dirty Work with Copes and d
Speaker 1: Pop live from fifty eight Social at Oracle Park before
Speaker 1: Tonight's Giants game on the Sports Leader.
Speaker 2: Dirty Work on a Friday afternoon, Adam copling Deep Hoop
Speaker 2: with you from the patio at fifty eight Social Giants
Speaker 2: and the Tigers tonight seven fifteen first pitch six to
Speaker 2: fifteen pre game.
Speaker 3: But first we got to cack in with our guy.
Speaker 2: Marcus Thompson, of the athletic best sports rider in the country,
Speaker 2: joins us each.
Speaker 3: And every Friday here on Dirty Work. What's up, Marcus?
Speaker 3: How are you?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 5: What a Marcus?
Speaker 3: Where are you all at at the at the ballpark?
Speaker 5: We're here today? Who knows tomorrow?
Speaker 3: Who knows somaro from?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 3: We're here?
Speaker 4: Okay, I just heard the noise and the background. I'm like,
Speaker 4: where are they? A high show? What's going on?
Speaker 2: But that was when you heard the sirens a couple
Speaker 2: weeks ago. Yeah, that was more such show. Like, man,
Speaker 2: So what's up with you?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 3: We've had an uneventful week? What are you up to?
Speaker 4: Similarly uneventful?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 4: Similarly?
Speaker 8: Chill?
Speaker 4: How about we can just say chill? How about we
Speaker 4: go with that I'm chilling, very chill week, all.
Speaker 5: Right, very very different for us this week. I'd say.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yes, indeed.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah, I don't know, go ahead.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, No, I would like to hear your questions.
Speaker 2: I was gonna like shift gears to sports. But if
Speaker 2: you had something else, you can you can hit that.
Speaker 7: I mean, no matter what you said, I was gonna say.
Speaker 7: You know what I want to say. You can go
Speaker 7: to gears, you go to sports all you want to Uh,
Speaker 7: it's your Your week has been very disheartening. Yeah, especially
Speaker 7: as an outsider looking in. Uh, I definitely want to
Speaker 7: give a huge uh shout out to a legend in
Speaker 7: our profession and Greg Papa and just reading about what
Speaker 7: he's going through was simultaneously like heartwarming and heartbreaking.
Speaker 4: Uh So, my thoughts and my.
Speaker 7: Desire to talk is kind of limited to Greg Papa, who,
Speaker 7: more than anything, really just deserves the Bay Areas unflinching
Speaker 7: and unyielding support. If you're a sports fan out here
Speaker 7: and you've ever heard his voice in a moment, if
Speaker 7: you've ever been around him, if you ever benefited from him,
Speaker 7: if you ever just got a chance to get a
Speaker 7: dose of his swag, then we should all be companies
Speaker 7: and fans alike in support of Greg Papa. So that's
Speaker 7: all I really want to say today.
Speaker 4: How about that?
Speaker 9: No, I appreciate that, man, and I appreciate your reaching
Speaker 9: out to me. And yeah, would you say that our
Speaker 9: swag is comparable though me and my father's I would.
Speaker 7: I would say, I say, every time I see you,
Speaker 7: I get the same sense of you know, you could
Speaker 7: have been flying any era that I get from your father.
Speaker 7: Like sometimes I call you Greg because I think y'all
Speaker 7: same person. That's how much the swag is similar, right,
Speaker 7: I mean, you're clearly.
Speaker 4: Your daddy's son, right, like the.
Speaker 7: French coach you wear, the trench coach you wear, the cologne,
Speaker 7: that meat.
Speaker 4: That gets around the corner before you do.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying that Randa uh And and
Speaker 7: the trauma voice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 7: I mean, you're playing in your pop swag.
Speaker 4: I'm just putting on you.
Speaker 7: I'm just imagining this world where you are like your
Speaker 7: father and swag. So I'm trying to paint the picture
Speaker 7: for the audience of what Derek looks like with a
Speaker 7: black trench coat on.
Speaker 4: And you know, right, I was like, I'm.
Speaker 2: Over here thinking about Willie Brown. Bro, you're telling me
Speaker 2: about pop. I was like, well, you just starving Tracy.
Speaker 2: What's happening here?
Speaker 8: Listen?
Speaker 7: Man? You don't know, man, that that that overcoat that
Speaker 7: car Yeah, I don't know about the days at the
Speaker 7: Raider Stadium, you.
Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Man, that was a little more like a cheat coat
Speaker 4: as well wear.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, Iren.
Speaker 4: And what well, what do you call it then?
Speaker 7: A car coat?
Speaker 4: An overcoat?
Speaker 5: An overcoat?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: An overcoat.
Speaker 9: That's I don't know if you called a trench coat
Speaker 9: when he when he has like a scarf underneath it.
Speaker 4: I feel like I could go past your pockets.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, pocket, you're in the trenches if it goes
Speaker 2: past the pocket, yeah. Marcus on them, you know the
Speaker 2: slag you know, the swaggiest thing that's ever been transferred
Speaker 2: from Greg Papa to Derek Papa. And I'm gonna put
Speaker 2: this out there. I don't know if Marcus even knows this.
Speaker 2: Greg has said on the air that Derek was conceived
Speaker 2: on the day that Dave Stewart threw a no header.
Speaker 2: I was like, that's the topest thing ever he saw.
Speaker 2: Smoke Stewart throwing. He's like, I gotta I gotta make.
Speaker 5: One good lord.
Speaker 3: Wait wait old dang.
Speaker 4: For some reason, I thought.
Speaker 7: Born but she said to see oh man, So did
Speaker 7: the stare down happen first?
Speaker 4: He's just lucky? And did he give me that?
Speaker 3: No, we did the math.
Speaker 8: Bro.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like nine months and four days too.
Speaker 2: It's like it's almost exact, and I get out of
Speaker 2: this business anyway.
Speaker 4: It just that was that was as like live as
Speaker 4: it gets. Because I was thinking birthday, birthday, and then Dawn,
Speaker 4: we can see you. I'm like, wait a second. Then
Speaker 4: I can just see him like tipping that cat waving
Speaker 4: them off, like nope, nope, not that, not that, don't
Speaker 4: wear that. Nope no, yeah wear that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Hey, and you only get that if you're flying. You
Speaker 3: gotta be pop to do that.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: You got it? Like, yeah, we're Stu or Stu. Yeah
Speaker 3: smoke stuck. So you I mean you mentioned it, dude.
Speaker 3: I was telling stories yesterday.
Speaker 2: I remember meeting Greg when I was when I was
Speaker 2: working at Boulevard Restaurant. I was telling everybody he left
Speaker 2: me tickets to a Raider game, and I thought there's
Speaker 2: no way these were actually here. And I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm barn over there, and he left me tickets two
Speaker 2: days later. Didn't even know me.
Speaker 3: I was like a host and a restaurant that he
Speaker 3: was at.
Speaker 2: But do you remember your first interaction with Papa or
Speaker 2: the first that you you really got to know him
Speaker 2: a little bit, either at the coliseum or or.
Speaker 7: Beyond absolutely at the college sum Here's how I knew
Speaker 7: all I needed to know right off the back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I obviously I knew who he was. I
Speaker 4: didn't know he knew who I was.
Speaker 7: But he said it as he walked up to me
Speaker 7: and he gave me a dapt and it was so smooth,
Speaker 7: you know how. You know how sometimes it don't you know,
Speaker 7: like Derek, you might know what I mean, Sometimes you
Speaker 7: botch that.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm just saying it can be very awkward.
Speaker 7: Man, It was so smooth and cool.
Speaker 4: I was like, man, this is exactly who I thought
Speaker 4: he was. It was just like it's a small gesture,
Speaker 4: but he was like Obama out there.
Speaker 7: It wasn't a simple handshake neither.
Speaker 4: It was like a three parter with the half. I
Speaker 4: was like, oh, this is my guy right now.
Speaker 3: That's that's what we would call Derek. Let me tell her,
Speaker 3: that's what we would call giving some skin.
Speaker 7: Yeah you know what I mean, I say, you know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying on the black hand side, you feel me?
Speaker 7: Yeah there, Yes, you ain't never bumbled it there you
Speaker 7: never You ain't never course, Okay.
Speaker 4: That's what I thought.
Speaker 5: I'm not like I haven't. But there's a been times
Speaker 5: where people have been impressed.
Speaker 3: I've taught some people off guard.
Speaker 4: All finis, Pops has never bundled it like he do
Speaker 4: than us.
Speaker 5: Fair enough, fair enough.
Speaker 2: He's a student of the game, as you know, in
Speaker 2: many rounds, in many many fasts, Pop is a student
Speaker 2: of the game without question.
Speaker 5: Okay, you're seeing my dad's invited the cookout, but not
Speaker 5: so much, meme.
Speaker 7: Not only is he invited to the cookout, he bringing
Speaker 7: the dish and we eat it. You know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, yeah, ain't.
Speaker 4: No raisings in the potato salad.
Speaker 3: No, No, he want to bring.
Speaker 4: He gonna bring some Metalian food.
Speaker 6: That we all love.
Speaker 7: You know, you don't know me have this, but it's good.
Speaker 7: Let's go within it, let's have it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the guy that when somebody's got to go
Speaker 2: to the bathroom. The dude on the girl has to
Speaker 2: go to the bathroom. He's like, pop, come work this
Speaker 2: frohim to watch this for me. You know, he trusts
Speaker 2: him to watch the grill.
Speaker 5: Watch it, but he's not doing anything on it. I
Speaker 5: know my father and the grill grill himself.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't picture him on the grill. That's too
Speaker 4: much sweat.
Speaker 5: Yeah, too much, it'll it'll miss.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's to be in a car code at the grill.
Speaker 3: You know what I there?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, switching gears real quick. Marcus, what was your
Speaker 5: reaction to Kevin duran and Klay Thompson here?
Speaker 3: He told you what he wanted to talk about.
Speaker 5: But I can't. I can't bring this up briefly.
Speaker 4: Sure you could bring it up. Sure, absolutely can bring
Speaker 4: it up. Finish finishing questions.
Speaker 9: Okay, what'd you think of Klay Thompson and Kevin durants
Speaker 9: exchange on social media this past week?
Speaker 7: You know, I actually thought it was impressive. How Like
Speaker 7: for all these years, Greg Papa was a raider guy and.
Speaker 4: Tradition like call in forty nine ers games like and
Speaker 4: he came up with a call and it was awkward.
Speaker 7: He's missed the Raider. So for him to make this transition,
Speaker 7: to me, it was all about expert right. It was like,
Speaker 7: you all know, I cover a bunch of sports, right like,
Speaker 7: so that's as somebody who does it. It is incredibly difficult.
Speaker 7: But for him to just ingratiate himself in Niner culture
Speaker 7: the way he did, to turn those calls and make
Speaker 7: them as you know, impactful as all those years were
Speaker 7: the Raiders where he was like the facto GM anyway,
Speaker 7: right like that to me is one of the most precious,
Speaker 7: impressive things you'll see in our profession. And it certainly
Speaker 7: helps that the Raiders were in Las Vegas, right like
Speaker 7: they're gone or not have a presence anymore.
Speaker 4: But after seeing that and listening to that, I just
Speaker 4: I just never imagined that day, Like twenty years ago.
Speaker 4: You're not thinking Greg Papa is going to be the
Speaker 4: voice of the forty nine ers one day.
Speaker 3: It just sounds weird, right, It's just it doesn't feel
Speaker 3: weird anymore now.
Speaker 9: Dude.
Speaker 2: I grew up in the East, you know, just like
Speaker 2: you manifest that seems so weird kind of different for you.
Speaker 2: But I wasn't a Raider fan. But I thought it
Speaker 2: was a little weird at first, and now I don't
Speaker 2: even really think about it.
Speaker 5: I really don't, Okay, I I get what you want
Speaker 5: to answer today, Marcus. So I'll ask you.
Speaker 4: I'll ask you this question.
Speaker 7: I'll ask you this question.
Speaker 5: No no, no no no no no no okay, Okay.
Speaker 9: So years ago, your guy Tim Kawakami asked my dad
Speaker 9: about this whole rumor that he was going to be
Speaker 9: the general manager of the Raiders, had Al Davis stuck around,
Speaker 9: So obviously things didn't happen.
Speaker 5: What if well if if, I'll say it alive obviously yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So it was like on his call, right, He's like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm out right. Yeah.
Speaker 3: He's like, no, I don't think I think I'm gonna
Speaker 3: x it on my own.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna check out, check it out. Yeah okay.
Speaker 9: So, like, what do you think the Bay Area's reaction
Speaker 9: would have been if Greg Poppa, after years of being
Speaker 9: a play by play guy, was introduced as general manager
Speaker 9: of president of football Operations for the Raiders.
Speaker 3: What's your story?
Speaker 7: I think I actually think it would have been like
Speaker 7: more fitting than you see kind of these things now, right, uh,
Speaker 7: Like like remember when Bob Myers was an agent and
Speaker 7: cross ever to being a germanager. We were like, I
Speaker 7: don't know this is gonna work. Like it felt weird
Speaker 7: that I mean, you know, because obviously we didn't really
Speaker 7: know Bob Myers at that point, so it's like, what
Speaker 7: can this agent do with no experience. I think that
Speaker 7: would have been Greg pop Up becoming the general manager,
Speaker 7: like he already felt like the team for a lot
Speaker 7: of us who just grew up with the voice like
Speaker 7: his command for the team, like like that's how we
Speaker 7: would learn about football. It was it was Greg pop
Speaker 7: on Raiders, it was Jim Barnet. Don't work like you
Speaker 7: learned about the team and not just what was happening
Speaker 7: with the game. So I think it would have been
Speaker 7: a little bit more seamless than I imagine, Like it
Speaker 7: would be like if you know, Adam Goldman just became
Speaker 7: like Mike Dunley.
Speaker 4: Y's number two, we'd be like, what are you doing?
Speaker 7: Right? Like what happened? So I think it would have
Speaker 7: been actually fine. I think people would have been shocked.
Speaker 7: But what was the Raiders success anyway? Who were they
Speaker 7: going to get another retread that wasn't gonna do a
Speaker 7: good job, like, yeah, like you you probably could you
Speaker 7: probably we would have got more supportives, like, hey, trying,
Speaker 7: We're trying everything at this.
Speaker 2: Point, Marcus Thompson of the Athletic Joint is each and
Speaker 2: every week here on Dury work. That's all we got
Speaker 2: for you, Marcus. I appreciate you making time for us,
Speaker 2: and then this hasn't been fun this week for any
Speaker 2: of us. So and I know your connection to the
Speaker 2: Bay Area and to the East Band, to Greg Pop individually,
Speaker 2: So really, man, I do appreciate you.
Speaker 3: You're making time.
Speaker 7: Hey, I'll tell you what, man, I'm not gonna be
Speaker 7: as classy about it.
Speaker 4: I'm dropping names, I'm telling stories.
Speaker 7: I'm just just so y'all know, let's get this on
Speaker 7: the record, like you put me in these type of spots,
Speaker 7: I won't be smiling. I'll be like it's gonna be
Speaker 7: a tell all book, like you want to treat me
Speaker 7: like this, Okay, Yeah, I write that down.
Speaker 2: Like I said, Man, it's crazy. It's not as crazy
Speaker 2: as firing somebody with cancer, but it is crazy, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It is out there.
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not going out with class.
Speaker 3: I just want Yeah, man. So it's almost like I'll
Speaker 3: say it, but you did it.
Speaker 2: So anyway, Mary, that bad you did it. Marcus Thompson
Speaker 2: of the Athletic for now joins us every Friday. We'll
Speaker 2: talk to you soon, Marcus. Appreciate it, all right. Marcus
Speaker 2: Thompson of the Athletic, he joins us each and every week.
Speaker 2: Though that's a he's a trenches guy. Yeah, Marcus Thomson
Speaker 2: isn't in the trenches guy with us. Man, I love
Speaker 2: that guy now, guys, look for so much of my career,
Speaker 2: I always love and respect that guy.
Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna take a quick break. Members of
Speaker 3: the Filter's showing up here at fifty eight. So so
Speaker 3: we got to get in dirty with the filth. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: tell me. You're waiting about an hour at five forty five.
Speaker 3: You can sit down and now you're good. You can cheer.
Speaker 3: You're the one. You're the one cheering, so yeah, more
Speaker 3: power to you.
Speaker 9: If everybody else is booming it, throwing tomatoes at it.
Speaker 9: We'll get dirty with the filth in about an hour.
Speaker 2: Derek wants you to sit down and ask us one question, apiece,
Speaker 2: one question, your quest question and get it ready.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one question. We will do that a bit later.
Speaker 3: But you know what this is, dude, it's a Friday
Speaker 3: and we have to work overtime. You know what that means.
Speaker 3: What's that we're playing a replay of an interview? Nice? Yeah, dude,
Speaker 3: you know who's great? Rich?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 3: He joined us each and every Thursday. He's so great.
Speaker 3: You'll hear it again. Next, it's Dirty Work.
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Speaker 2: Adam Copeland, Deep Pop hanging out with you from the
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Speaker 2: Leader Wall of Fame Day tomorrow, Buster Posey, Brandon Belt,
Speaker 2: Brandon Crawford, Joe Panic and Pablo Sandoval all being inducted
Speaker 2: into the Giants Wall of Fame. And there's no television
Speaker 2: coverage of that. You can hear all of it right
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Speaker 2: Giants shortstop number thirty five, Richard Really it joins us.
Speaker 2: You see him as part of NBC Sports Bay Areas
Speaker 2: pre and postgame Giants coverage all season long right here,
Speaker 2: but right here.
Speaker 3: Over on TV on NBC Sports Bay Area.
Speaker 2: We open the conversation with Richard Really yesterday talking about
Speaker 2: the topic of Thursday and really of the week for
Speaker 2: the Giants, and that is that after thirty six years,
Speaker 2: Giants broadcaster Mike Kruco is going to step away from
Speaker 2: the booth after this year. We opened the interview with
Speaker 2: Richard Really asking about his thoughts on Crouch stepping away.
Speaker 8: Oh, listen, I mean, thirty six years is a long
Speaker 8: time and and at some point in the near future. Man,
Speaker 8: you know, both those guys Mike Enjwain got to go
Speaker 8: in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5: Of course.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's that's a given, but uh, you know, to
Speaker 8: give you I mean, listen, he gave his life to
Speaker 8: the game, right, I mean, he literally did. He played
Speaker 8: for a long time and you know, you start playing
Speaker 8: his little kid, and he played through high school, college
Speaker 8: and then get to the big leagues and then boom
Speaker 8: right after you're right into broadcasting and you know, the
Speaker 8: relationship you build as a player, you know with guys
Speaker 8: like like Mike. You know, I'd like to say it's
Speaker 8: kind of up to you, but you have no choice
Speaker 8: but to love that guy, right. I mean, he's just
Speaker 8: such an approachable guy. He's such a a a great
Speaker 8: personality and such a person with knowledge of the game
Speaker 8: that he's been around for god forever. You know, I
Speaker 8: leaned on, you know, both Mike and Dwayne, but you know,
Speaker 8: I you know, when I was struggling, you know, they
Speaker 8: were another set of eyes for you. You know, you
Speaker 8: had Dwayne who could go over you know, either what
Speaker 8: he sees on defense or what he sought to play.
Speaker 8: And I could go to Mike and be like, hey man,
Speaker 8: what are they trying to do to me? Like why
Speaker 8: am I struggling? I feel like I'm chasing And so
Speaker 8: they were a valuable tool. And and I don't have
Speaker 8: any problem in saying this that, you know, and I
Speaker 8: think almost everybody would agree with me. I mean, they
Speaker 8: have been some of the Giants' best players for the
Speaker 8: last thirty years, meaning fans tuned in to listen to
Speaker 8: those guys not only watch the game, but a lot
Speaker 8: of fans tune in to listen to those guys. So
Speaker 8: at this moment from Mike to step down, whether it's
Speaker 8: you know, whether it's health burnout team, maybe not going
Speaker 8: in the you know direction we all thought. I don't know,
Speaker 8: but I want to say it was honor working with
Speaker 8: that guy and to have him, you know, call a
Speaker 8: boatload of my games in my career, you know. And
Speaker 8: he's one of the few guys in this few guys
Speaker 8: in this game and in the city who could get
Speaker 8: away to call me Dicky.
Speaker 7: So I appreciate him, and not only him, his family man.
Speaker 8: His kids grew up in that clubhouse when I was playing,
Speaker 8: and now they have kids and Jennifer and you know,
Speaker 8: just just such a great, lovely family. And I think
Speaker 8: I can speak for everyone saying we wish them nothing
Speaker 8: but the best in retirement life. And I hope it
Speaker 8: means the world to him, and I know it does
Speaker 8: that he got to cover the Black and Orange for
Speaker 8: the amount of time he did.
Speaker 2: So I got a rich Ali, my guest. I think
Speaker 2: it's really it's a great thing, and you understand it
Speaker 2: on a different level. Rich being a former Big leaguer
Speaker 2: is you know, they shared him with us right. I
Speaker 2: mean all that travel and all the all those broadcasts,
Speaker 2: he wasn't at home for all those and they got
Speaker 2: to be around it. It's different when you were a
Speaker 2: broadcaster than a player.
Speaker 3: But he was still on the road.
Speaker 2: He was still traveling with you guys, and for thirty
Speaker 2: plus years that's been his deal. So no, they're they're
Speaker 2: definitely a part of this too. I wanted to ask
Speaker 2: you because I was saying at the top of the
Speaker 2: show for me, Mike Cruco. And this isn't to take
Speaker 2: away from anybody else or any of the broadcaster, but
Speaker 2: like I think about hearing stories about Tommy Lasorda at
Speaker 2: the beginning of spring training talking to new players about
Speaker 2: the Dodger Way and the way that they would do things,
Speaker 2: and I said, you know, there's a Giant way too,
Speaker 2: and there's a brand of Giants Baseball. It's an attitude
Speaker 2: not just for the players but for the fan base.
Speaker 2: And I think that's part of our struggle with how
Speaker 2: how poorly things have gone on the field the last
Speaker 2: few years. But I said, I don't think there's been
Speaker 2: any better flag bear or standard bearer or teacher of
Speaker 2: the book of Giants Baseball. And what it means to
Speaker 2: be a giant, and Mike Cruco in my lifetime, I
Speaker 2: think he's the best at it, by.
Speaker 4: Far the best.
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, listen, him and Dwayne work together forever,
Speaker 8: their best buddies, right, and they do an unbelievable job together.
Speaker 8: But they've barred different personality type guys, right, So like, yeah,
Speaker 8: type is that way, but but Kruk is more that way,
Speaker 8: like kind of in your face with it, that will
Speaker 8: tell you about it. And I think that's what you
Speaker 8: have to appreciate about it. And I you know, I
Speaker 8: remember coming up early in this game, and again I've
Speaker 8: told you guys this before. I had guys like Matt
Speaker 8: Williams Robbie Thompson taking care of me as a rookie,
Speaker 8: and they got along great because they played with Kruk.
Speaker 8: And you know, one of the first things Kruke told me,
Speaker 8: He's like, you just got to learn the Giants' way
Speaker 8: and you got to hate those guys in blue. That's
Speaker 8: it that those are the rules, you know, And you know,
Speaker 8: I've stood by those rules for a majority of my
Speaker 8: life now, and I'm sure I'm sure there'll be a
Speaker 8: really you know, wonderful send off from the Giants' organized
Speaker 8: you know, when when it comes time for them to
Speaker 8: celebrate that, and you know whoever it is, I mean,
Speaker 8: God blessed that guy. Following following kruk Man. It's like
Speaker 8: following either or Bongs or you know. I mean, it's
Speaker 8: a tough gig, but you know, after all these years,
Speaker 8: it's time for Mike to move on.
Speaker 3: Who are your guys like that?
Speaker 2: I mean when you were grown up and you were
Speaker 2: watching ball, you were a Mets fan right when you
Speaker 2: were a kid, Yes, was it like was it Kiner?
Speaker 3: Bob Murphy? Who are your guys when you were coming up?
Speaker 8: I mean, I like Piner because you know, I knew
Speaker 8: he played the game. And I always used to remember
Speaker 8: as a kid, like growing up in New York, when
Speaker 8: they would win, they'd have Kiner's Corner, which was like,
Speaker 8: you know, it wasn't a postgame showback then, it was
Speaker 8: Kiner's Corner, where like he'd come on and they'd go
Speaker 8: over highlights around the league and they'd interview the started
Speaker 8: game that day. So Ralph Kiner was my guy. And again,
Speaker 8: like you say, as a little kid, you know, what
Speaker 8: does that mean to you? I remember one time playing
Speaker 8: the Mets here at at Oracle and it was probably
Speaker 8: maybe the first or second year the ballpark was open,
Speaker 8: and I just had a great game against the Mets,
Speaker 8: and they asked me after the game to go on
Speaker 8: Kiner's corner and I'm like, are they hiding me?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 8: I'm like, yeah, I'm like his routs here and like,
Speaker 8: oh yeah, he made this trip this time, and and
Speaker 8: Seever's also covering was going to be here. So I'm like, dude,
Speaker 8: what a holy cow. It's like a childhood dream come true,
Speaker 8: wasn't It wasn't playing good against the Mets. It was
Speaker 8: just being on Kiner's corner, right, So I got to
Speaker 8: go on the show, got to talk to him. They
Speaker 8: both signed the ball for me when I was done,
Speaker 8: and like, it made my whole, my whole year.
Speaker 4: To be able to do that.
Speaker 8: So, you know, those legends, those legends that you listened
Speaker 8: to as a kid, and move on and listen.
Speaker 4: Thirty six years for Kruk.
Speaker 8: There's a lot of people that have listened to him
Speaker 8: in a lot of different ages, and you know, it
Speaker 8: always seems that he had an impact no matter what
Speaker 8: age you were, because he was just that good at
Speaker 8: calling a game, and that good with his personality on him.
Speaker 5: Talking to Richarrelia on the UMA guest line.
Speaker 9: So you and I have known each other for a
Speaker 9: good deal of time now, and that's through my pops,
Speaker 9: going back to the old radio station. And you guys
Speaker 9: have the connection being on the pregame show and post
Speaker 9: game show together. But honestly it's even before then. Like
Speaker 9: you don't know this, but when I would go to
Speaker 9: baseball games with him, I would hang out, you know,
Speaker 9: before the game, be on the field. I remember meeting
Speaker 9: you must have been like two thousand and four, two
Speaker 9: thousand and five, and you were so incredibly nice to
Speaker 9: me because of the connection with my father. So I
Speaker 9: know that Mike Kruko has that relatability to players. For
Speaker 9: broadcasters that didn't play the game, what makes them relatable.
Speaker 8: To players, well, I think just being being fair and honest, right,
Speaker 8: I mean, I think that's you know, you have to
Speaker 8: understand that those guys have a job too, and sometimes
Speaker 8: their job is to be critical of you, and you
Speaker 8: have to understand that. And I and a perfect example
Speaker 8: to me. Listen, I spent most of my career in
Speaker 8: San Francisco, so I had those guys. John Miller had
Speaker 8: flammed for a little. I mean, I had a bunch
Speaker 8: of guys, had Joe the Angel of Death.
Speaker 3: I love Joe Angelo, but I go back to my days.
Speaker 8: With the Reds, and I had Marty Brenneman, who had
Speaker 8: been there forever. And Marty was not afraid man, He
Speaker 8: was not afraid to stand up to anybody. You know,
Speaker 8: we know he didn't play the game, but I mean
Speaker 8: he was a type of guy. He go up to players,
Speaker 8: and the players he knew he would know who was
Speaker 8: kind of a little ticked off at him for what
Speaker 8: he said, and he would go up to the guy
Speaker 8: and he said, guess what, I've been here long before
Speaker 8: you were here, and I'm going to be here long
Speaker 8: after you're gone. So just understand that that's my job.
Speaker 8: And that's I think the kind of mentality you have
Speaker 8: to take with guys that didn't play the game, because
Speaker 8: you look, I mean, just look at the Giants, right,
Speaker 8: I mean, you got John Miller, Hall Famer, got Dave Fleming,
Speaker 8: who I think is you know, one of the best
Speaker 8: in the game. I mean, you know the way he
Speaker 8: comes across, whether it's on TV or on radio. I
Speaker 8: mean so you get around these guys and you get
Speaker 8: to know them on a personal level and you just
Speaker 8: understand like you just separate between personal and professional and
Speaker 8: you get along great with these guys.
Speaker 2: It's not gonna rich A really nice enough to join
Speaker 2: us here on the the Uma gas line, by the way,
Speaker 2: Derek saying that you don't remember it, but it was.
Speaker 2: It was meaningful to him that you were nice to
Speaker 2: him as a kid, much different than your interaction with
Speaker 2: Mark Grace, right Derek.
Speaker 5: Oh No, he didn't want me in the booth at all.
Speaker 5: I was like, why is this kid here?
Speaker 3: Papa? Oh, why is this kid up here? Mark Grace
Speaker 3: is like I don't get why he's here? What's he doing?
Speaker 5: Understand I was annoying?
Speaker 3: I get it. So it's a big deal, rightch that
Speaker 3: you were you were so kind to him.
Speaker 4: Man uh sounds like Gracie though.
Speaker 2: So yeah, rich really joined us here on the on
Speaker 2: the Uma guesst line. So when you think, you said,
Speaker 2: like Mike is more in your face about it, when
Speaker 2: you think about the giant way like what was that?
Speaker 3: When you realize what that was? What did that mean
Speaker 3: to you?
Speaker 2: And and because I really do think Mike is kind
Speaker 2: of the the one who pushes that forward, and so
Speaker 2: many of us have grown up with that.
Speaker 5: What does that mean to you?
Speaker 3: The Giant Way?
Speaker 8: I mean, honestly, I think it's just being a grinder
Speaker 8: man and doing everything you have you have to win
Speaker 8: a game every day and to leave it all out
Speaker 8: on the field. And I honestly felt like that's how
Speaker 8: I played throughout my whole career, no matter which city
Speaker 8: I played and who I played for.
Speaker 4: I felt like I left it all out on the field.
Speaker 8: And you know, when you talk to you know, Kirker type,
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, they'll tell you you know where
Speaker 8: that uniform as long as you can make them drag
Speaker 8: it off you. And that's why I think. That's why
Speaker 8: I think here like for the years they've been here,
Speaker 8: there have been so many guys that they've just fallen
Speaker 8: in love with as players because there's a bunch of grinders,
Speaker 8: and you know, I think I think maybe at a
Speaker 8: point in time, you guys remember this, your Giants fans.
Speaker 8: I mean I think it was when Peter mcgallan stepped
Speaker 8: down and Bill Nukeomb took over. Remember they actually came
Speaker 8: out with a statement about the Giant Way or there
Speaker 8: was some kind of so that said something to me,
Speaker 8: because that might have meant maybe they were getting to
Speaker 8: a time where that that kind of attitude or whatever
Speaker 8: was was, you know, kind of straying away, or that
Speaker 8: age of player was straying away. And then guess what, man,
Speaker 8: it came back when you got guys like Buster and
Speaker 8: Crawn Belt and all those guys that are going to
Speaker 8: celebrate this weekend, right, I mean, all those guys were
Speaker 8: grinders and those are the guys you like watch playing
Speaker 8: and I look at you know, just this year for me,
Speaker 8: I mean, god, I hate it Team Luis Rise get traded.
Speaker 8: I understand it, But that guy's a grinder, man, he
Speaker 8: was a giant's way, right. I Mean, that's that's how
Speaker 8: you play the game with a love and emotion and
Speaker 8: just a great feeling about putting that black and orange
Speaker 8: on every day and being proud that that's on your chest.
Speaker 8: And you know, and even the greats that we've had,
Speaker 8: I mean Barry and Jeff, I mean they had a
Speaker 8: lot of pride in wearing that uniform every day for
Speaker 8: a long time. And you know, again, it all starts
Speaker 8: like back in the beginning with the guys that came
Speaker 8: before us, and that's how you pass it on and
Speaker 8: you pay it forward. So you know, I was very
Speaker 8: appreciave for that.
Speaker 5: A couple more minutes for Richard really on the UMA
Speaker 5: guest line.
Speaker 9: Yeah, just your thoughts about the trade deadline, six players
Speaker 9: in total, but this reaction, you know, your your reaction
Speaker 9: to Luisa Rise, Robbie Ray, and Ellie Ramos being dealt
Speaker 9: to the deadline.
Speaker 4: Again.
Speaker 8: I hate seeing arisegow because he was just fun to
Speaker 8: watch as a hitter, right, I mean, they're just his
Speaker 8: his mannerisms and his his vocal appeal and ball that
Speaker 8: he could get a bat on and put him play.
Speaker 8: You know, I gotta say, I don't know much about
Speaker 8: the guys they got in return, because they're all a
Speaker 8: lot of them are more lower you know, lower level
Speaker 8: minor leaguers. But Bustin did I think what he had
Speaker 8: to do, and you know, without using the rebuild word,
Speaker 8: I mean, it's as close as you could get to it.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 8: I mean, listen, we all knew Robbie Ray would be dealt.
Speaker 8: I think we all knew Luisa Rise would be dealt.
Speaker 8: I mean Ramos was kind of a I think that
Speaker 8: was kind of a coin toss, you know, And I
Speaker 8: guess in my mind, you know, I don't know because
Speaker 8: I haven't we haven't seen I guess enough of them.
Speaker 8: But like, had we seen the best of Elliot Romos,
Speaker 8: I don't know, or had we not? You know, I
Speaker 8: don't know. I mean I did see a few strides
Speaker 8: defensively this year, because I think last year he might
Speaker 8: have been embarrassed a little bit by the way he
Speaker 8: played defense. But I don't know if we saw the
Speaker 8: best of him, and then you you know, then you
Speaker 8: go with the other trades. I mean, you just you know,
Speaker 8: you move guys and you have to and you know,
Speaker 8: hopefully you get a haul and return and hopefully a
Speaker 8: couple of these guys hit. I mean, that's all you
Speaker 8: could really hope for. And you know you got to
Speaker 8: go in, you know, you got to go in the
Speaker 8: next year saying you're gonna, you know, try and to win.
Speaker 8: But you know, you also good core people. You still
Speaker 8: have a good group of guys, I mean, you know,
Speaker 8: offensively at least on the field, but you know, you
Speaker 8: don't know what it's going to be as far as
Speaker 8: you know pitching goes. And I would I was surprised
Speaker 8: that Chilean went. I mean, that might have been the
Speaker 8: one big surprise for me because I thought he'd been
Speaker 8: doing a decent job this year at the back end
Speaker 8: of that bullpen, which.
Speaker 2: Really the voice you hear on the UMA guest line
Speaker 2: of part of the NBC Sports Bigginess pre and post
Speaker 2: game Giants coverage all season long. Rich, We appreciate the
Speaker 2: time as always. Dude, are you are you back in
Speaker 2: town for a while? Are you going to Greece or
Speaker 2: where are you off to next?
Speaker 10: Man?
Speaker 3: Are you're always on the move.
Speaker 8: I'm I'm in town for a while. I'm going to
Speaker 8: Montana actually Saturday for just like a five day little
Speaker 8: getaway thing. But yeah, I'm kind of like I'm at
Speaker 8: that point right now to somewhere like I'm kind of
Speaker 8: happy being home. Yeah, so I really don't want to
Speaker 8: go anywhere, but I do want to say this, So, yeah, Derek,
Speaker 8: I did text with your dad today a little bit, man,
Speaker 8: And I love that guy, and uh, you know, it's
Speaker 8: it's funny when when we text each other, you know,
Speaker 8: he always he always texts me back like Brothers for
Speaker 8: Life with the Italian flag and I love it. And
Speaker 8: I was like I was like, hey, man, I I
Speaker 8: you know, I really you appreciate you that because I
Speaker 8: learned so much from him, yeah, when I first started
Speaker 8: doing TV. So yeah, so I'm glad. I'm glad I
Speaker 8: got a chance to talk to him today. And I
Speaker 8: check in with him every couple of weeks and uh,
Speaker 8: you know, hopefully he's hanging in there and starting to
Speaker 8: feel a little bit better.
Speaker 5: I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Richie.
Speaker 3: Great to talk to you. Rich will do to you
Speaker 3: next week. Man, thanks so much.
Speaker 8: All right, guys, figure than.
Speaker 2: They're just one of the best dudes, all my favorite dudes.
Speaker 2: Richard Williot Man, just awesome.
Speaker 1: Let's get back to Dirty Work with Copes and d
Speaker 1: Pop live from fifty eight Social at Oracle Park before
Speaker 1: Tonight's Giants game on the Sports.
Speaker 2: Leader Dirty Work on a Friday evening, Adam Copeland Deepop
Speaker 2: hanging out with it from the patio fifty eight Social.
Speaker 2: The Giants and the Tigers tonight, getting ready to start
Speaker 2: a three game series and open this home stand here
Speaker 2: after a uh after a rough roading, Oh yeah, rough roady. Well,
Speaker 2: it's tough to get it's tough to get up for
Speaker 2: these games. Huh, well, I'll say this. I was like
Speaker 2: sitting there talking to a really I was like, tell
Speaker 2: us about the giant way. Yeah, there's really not much
Speaker 2: to say for the rest of the season, Eddies Leonard,
Speaker 2: I got Buddy Kennedy, but like for fans, just cheers
Speaker 2: these last forty seven games in my kruka. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: what I said. That's what it's about. Tough to do
Speaker 2: if you're here. Yeah, if you're here, if you're hearing
Speaker 2: you have that because you don't. It's one les day
Speaker 2: a crew kie get you know. Yeah, I mean pop
Speaker 2: on your you know YouTube. Fools doing here and you're
Speaker 2: missing out on.
Speaker 3: Games.
Speaker 2: You guys messed up coming to the yard. You only
Speaker 2: got him for a limited time. You're insane, all right.
Speaker 2: We got pregame at six fifteen and uh and plenty
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Speaker 4: No, I've whipped up this nasty little Suarez.
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Speaker 4: What swar honey, I think that means hard sports.
Speaker 2: Lead your sound soiree for Friday the seventh, Today's seventh,
Speaker 2: August seventh, twenty twenty sixth, and it starts with my
Speaker 2: favorite dude who's pretending to be married, Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5: Dude, hold on here it mounts.
Speaker 3: Can I get it?
Speaker 2: Can I get a Can I get by round of
Speaker 2: applause on the patio? Who thinks Aaron Rodgers wife is fake?
Speaker 2: A round of applause and hands go up?
Speaker 3: What are we doing? Only two? Two people? Everybody else
Speaker 3: believes this woman is real.
Speaker 2: That he dated celebrities forever, for like two decades, he
Speaker 2: dated celebrities. All of a sudden, he's got a wife name,
Speaker 2: he's he's turning a corner. No way, dude, No, you
Speaker 2: guys are yeah. I bet you believed he was vaccinated too.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 3: Here's Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: He's asked by Kyle Brandt about reuniting with his family.
Speaker 3: Here's Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 11: I was genuinely moved by your post with your family
Speaker 11: and your parents, Like genuinely, I thought it was really
Speaker 11: really cool.
Speaker 5: How does that affect you in your heart?
Speaker 4: In your head?
Speaker 10: Right now, there's been a lot of conversation about it
Speaker 10: outside of my own conversation, and for so many years,
Speaker 10: you know, a big part of it was getting married
Speaker 10: and having those conversations with my wife that allowed me
Speaker 10: to kind of open up to the possibility of coming together.
Speaker 10: It's been a couple year process now, the conversations with them,
Speaker 10: but you know, I've been very, very closed off about
Speaker 10: that part of my life, and I want to keep
Speaker 10: it that way, but there's been a narrative that's gone
Speaker 10: on for too long that I wanted to kind of
Speaker 10: shut down. And it's been really beautiful to reconnect with them,
Speaker 10: all of them, and I got to spend a week
Speaker 10: a long weekend recently. Those those pictures are from in
Speaker 10: Nashville with my parents, my brother and his sweet wife,
Speaker 10: and they're incredible two kids. So I got to be an,
Speaker 10: which is really it's really special. So a lot of
Speaker 10: my life has been full circle, I think the last
Speaker 10: the last year, and that was part of it. I
Speaker 10: knew it was part of it, and I'm happy to
Speaker 10: be reunited and that part of my life is a
Speaker 10: really beautiful addition. And I got to give my wife
Speaker 10: a lot of credit for not that she was pushing
Speaker 10: me because she never was, but just the way that
Speaker 10: she loves and supports me. Having her by my side
Speaker 10: during this process has been really special. And I missed
Speaker 10: those relationships, and there was reasons for it that don't
Speaker 10: need to be talked about. But I'm thankful that that
Speaker 10: that's come all the way back around.
Speaker 5: There you go, that's all you need to hear. The
Speaker 5: wife is real?
Speaker 2: How come he mentioned every person in his family that
Speaker 2: was there and we've seen video and photo of every
Speaker 2: one of these interactions. If your wife was so crucial
Speaker 2: to this and these are public places. He was at
Speaker 2: his own high school's induction ceremony into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: You got his brother there, you got his nephew's there,
Speaker 2: you got his parents there, and no wife, but she
Speaker 2: was instrumental in making this options.
Speaker 3: Like crowds, I don't buy it. I ain't buying it
Speaker 3: for a minute. I ain't bind it for a minute. Dude.
Speaker 2: We got pictures of everybody doing everything. Everybody's got a phone,
Speaker 2: but nobody knows who Aaron Rodgers' wife is.
Speaker 5: I'm not yeah, man, she's like blanket.
Speaker 2: I'm not buying that guy's that kid's real. Well he
Speaker 2: shouldn't have named him blanket. Yeah, you shouldn't name a
Speaker 2: black kid blanket.
Speaker 4: That's message.
Speaker 3: That's not good. Nothing soft now blanket quote confident, None.
Speaker 8: Of that is.
Speaker 2: That's a cat Williams line. I'm not buying it nothing.
Speaker 2: The more he brings her up, the faker it seems,
Speaker 2: all right. I think that it's are you really more
Speaker 2: convinced than you were? The fact that he uses her
Speaker 2: to say, like, then why do we have video evidence
Speaker 2: of all of these events he's mentioning, and nowhere is
Speaker 2: she to be found.
Speaker 5: Because he posted himself and he doesn't want His wife
Speaker 5: is very secret.
Speaker 2: He posted himself to them he were post was posting
Speaker 2: things about it. Well, he wasn't posting himself. Well regardless,
Speaker 2: somebody getty, where's problatory?
Speaker 3: Stop with the kauhai stuff and find the wife.
Speaker 5: I would much rather want that.
Speaker 3: I'd rather get populatory finds out if Aaron Rodgers' wife
Speaker 3: is real.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you guys, you're all but you're all buying
Speaker 2: in In like five years, he's gonna be like, you
Speaker 2: guys are idiots.
Speaker 3: You thought I actually had a wife. You're too obsessed
Speaker 3: with somebody else's world. So this guy is tell this
Speaker 3: guy is.
Speaker 9: It's it's like a Tyler Durden situation where he's imagining
Speaker 9: his wife.
Speaker 2: Dude, he's gonna be like a wife is really whatever
Speaker 2: you make it. Yes, however you determine what that would
Speaker 2: be very Aaron Rodgers. But no, I am immunized. I've
Speaker 2: a real realigned what it means to have nuptials and
Speaker 2: have a wife. You can't get enough of this guy.
Speaker 2: I told you I'm coming back around on him because
Speaker 2: I like that he's lying. Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm
Speaker 2: endorsing the lie.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you like, appreciate all the boy I appreciate.
Speaker 2: I think he's I think he's working a bit and
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Yeah, he's sitting there with Kyle Brant,
Speaker 2: like on the Virgintiers.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, Well, Kyle Bran could do
Speaker 5: that to people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, brand, he's on Jeopardy. He had Sports Jeopardy. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: how'd you How would you faire on that? On sports show?
Speaker 3: I think I do okay with the stuff they're rolling
Speaker 3: out there. I'm like, I think I'd be fine on this.
Speaker 5: I think I'd be good at Sports Jeopardy. Regular Jeopardy
Speaker 5: not so much.
Speaker 2: There is episodes of or I wouldn't say episodes. There
Speaker 2: are rounds of Regular Jeopardy where I'm like, I'm on
Speaker 2: a done okay and that one yeah, And then they're
Speaker 2: like thirteenth century French art and.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I got nothing to lost me on that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I'm like, you want to get through Tim's trivia, I'm
Speaker 5: pretty good.
Speaker 2: They're like yeah, They're like they're like, uh, bodies of
Speaker 2: Water from the seventeen hundreds.
Speaker 3: You're like, I'm out.
Speaker 5: And then they like it's like some random celebroiography of Prussia.
Speaker 3: I'm like, nope, I'm done.
Speaker 9: Like this guy from Big Bank Theory, he's gonna ask
Speaker 9: this question, well, why do I give a dam?
Speaker 4: Is this guy?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's talking to Flash. What do I care? Here's
Speaker 3: Bill Simmons.
Speaker 2: Bill Simmons and Menachims are debating quarterback of the New
Speaker 2: England Patriots, Drake May.
Speaker 3: You know he went to the Super Bowl last year?
Speaker 7: He did?
Speaker 3: Drake May?
Speaker 2: Who who's listed in the same tier in Mike Sanders,
Speaker 2: QB tears as one, Lamar Jackson, Yes, tier too, as
Speaker 2: is a rock perty. Here's Bill Simmons and Menaicims debating
Speaker 2: if Drake May.
Speaker 3: Is a top hold on a top four quarterback. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't need to hear this. I know the answer
Speaker 3: is no, it should be. Here's what they have to say.
Speaker 12: I have Drake May fourth, which I think people would
Speaker 12: think is high, made the Super Bowl last year and
Speaker 12: had crazy stats.
Speaker 6: Well, you have Drake May over Joe Burrow and Lamar
Speaker 6: jacks I'm gonna explain why.
Speaker 5: In the second.
Speaker 3: I'm a Drake May guy.
Speaker 12: You're testing me, okay, meaning you know what I like results.
Speaker 12: Drake May went seventeen to four last year and he
Speaker 12: had crazy stats. It's not like it was like some
Speaker 12: sort of flute thing. And they added Ajrown, who is
Speaker 12: either the seventh, eighth, ninth, or tenth best receiver in
Speaker 12: the league. They added Dobbs, they improved the offensive line.
Speaker 12: Why isn't he a top five QB?
Speaker 4: Again?
Speaker 12: Why isn't he a safer bet than Lamar Jackson, who's
Speaker 12: like six years older.
Speaker 3: Than him, Because Lamar has done it for seven years.
Speaker 3: I just watched year was one year, dude.
Speaker 5: I'm all in on Drake.
Speaker 6: I mean I have taken my slings and arrows for
Speaker 6: my MVP vote, which I will still stand on. In defense,
Speaker 6: but like, I don't think you can credibly after just
Speaker 6: one season rank him above those guys.
Speaker 5: I just think he's okay.
Speaker 3: I love him.
Speaker 5: I think he's so good. I don't know. I would
Speaker 5: just rather have Drake Man.
Speaker 3: I'm just telling you he's a Patriot fan.
Speaker 9: As a Patriot fans transfer dude, No, this is the
Speaker 9: homerization of like sports media now where people have to
Speaker 9: give their take align with their fandom. I don't give
Speaker 9: a damn that Bill Simmons is a Patriots fan, give
Speaker 9: a fair take like now, like.
Speaker 2: But he'sn't he being real to himself by saying I
Speaker 2: am biased, I'm a Patriots fan.
Speaker 3: Okay, so he's saying.
Speaker 2: Here's but it's like a real top ten though, But
Speaker 2: he's telling you where his take's coming from.
Speaker 3: So why are you upset about it?
Speaker 9: Because it's ridiculous. Yeah, I agree, but like, okay, like,
Speaker 9: d do you think irate? It's not on ESPN, it's
Speaker 9: it's on his own podcast. Like to give a top
Speaker 9: ten list and say Drake Mays better than Joe Burl
Speaker 9: Lamar Jackson, you're not watching football then.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the guy who grew up with
Speaker 2: the Patriots being you know, the butt of the NFL,
Speaker 2: and then became the greatest dynasty of the NFL and
Speaker 2: scene in a generation, you know what I mean, And
Speaker 2: so and so they were hungry to find the next guy.
Speaker 2: They're quick to crown, is what I'm saying. Same thing
Speaker 2: with Boston fans in the Red Sox went forever, didn't
Speaker 2: have a title. He Larry Bird his whole life. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a diehard Celtics guy too, Bill Simmons,
Speaker 2: But you know where Bill Simmons is coming from, So
Speaker 2: take it with a great of salt. The same as
Speaker 2: if you were to hear Stephen A. Smith say Brock party,
Speaker 2: he's the best quarterback in the NFL, Like everybody who's
Speaker 2: an Iron fan would be like, look, we love Brock,
Speaker 2: but come on.
Speaker 3: We all know that's not true. No, and that's that's real. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's real.
Speaker 2: But I'm saying you've got to take, like, consider the source.
Speaker 2: So he's you're saying, everybody's got to have their take
Speaker 2: from the spot of their fandom.
Speaker 3: But he is a fan.
Speaker 2: I would rather him be real about his fandom than
Speaker 2: pretend not to be. Like, am I ever gonna give
Speaker 2: the Dodgers the time of day when I'm rating things
Speaker 2: or ranking things.
Speaker 5: No, but you're also fair about it, Like it's not
Speaker 5: the Dodgers, I tell you those guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't want to deal with those guys.
Speaker 5: Okay, I get that, as.
Speaker 3: They ruined my thirties. Okay, I get that.
Speaker 9: But like also, like I don't need my green bird
Speaker 9: like telling everybody like I'm a Jets fan.
Speaker 5: I'm a Jets fan. I don't want to her Jets.
Speaker 3: Why not?
Speaker 2: That's what this is though. If they're not journalists, they're entertainment.
Speaker 2: And the way we're sitting here, I don't like it.
Speaker 2: I'm We're in a candlestick parture. You think I got
Speaker 2: some unbiased opinions. Wow, the giants stink. That's where we're at.
Speaker 3: There, you got the reality.
Speaker 5: You gotta be honest about it too.
Speaker 3: I'm sitting in my own poop, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: That's what I'm doing.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: Here's here's more on the the sounds Worry Jeff Passing.
Speaker 2: Here's the guy who I never anticipated to show up
Speaker 2: on the All the Smoke Pod with UH with Stephen
Speaker 2: with Stephen Jackson and Matt Barnes.
Speaker 9: Well do Will Ferrell was on there a couple of
Speaker 9: weeks ago, like they're they're more fitting.
Speaker 2: It's more fitting than passing either way. Well farrel advertising movies,
Speaker 2: goofies coming out with them. We've got Passing out here talking.
Speaker 5: Okay, what about Charlie Sheen with All the Smoke?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was banging seven gram roxy. Yeah, Charlie she
Speaker 2: absolutely should be on that. Sorry, kid, don't look that up.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 2: Here's Jeff Passing. He's on the All the Smoke podcasts.
Speaker 2: He's talking about dude. We all love Tim Winslegm. Here's
Speaker 2: Jeff Passing.
Speaker 11: I heard about Tim Linscom well before he became a
Speaker 11: star in the big leagues, because, uh, you know, I've
Speaker 11: been I've been kind of a pitching nerd for a
Speaker 11: long time. I heard from a scout about this kid
Speaker 11: at the University of Washington who moves like nobody you've
Speaker 11: ever seen before. And the first time I saw Tim Linscomb,
Speaker 11: I was like, this dude is like myself.
Speaker 5: What five eight five, I'd see like five.
Speaker 11: He's like he was probably like at his peak, like
Speaker 11: five ten, like one sixty five, freakishually strong. You ever
Speaker 11: see like those wiry, strong dudes who don't look the
Speaker 11: part super Yeah, but they just have and and Tim
Speaker 11: tim linzk dad from an early age wanted to create
Speaker 11: the best picture in the world. When I saw him
Speaker 11: for the first time, I wanted to write about him.
Speaker 11: Reached out to his father and kept in touch with
Speaker 11: him throughout the years. And Tim Linsegam at his peak,
Speaker 11: absolutely unbelievable and just It's one thing I love about baseball.
Speaker 11: You can be five foot six and jose Al twov
Speaker 11: and win batting championships in an MVP. You can be
Speaker 11: five foot ten and Skinny is a pixie Stick and
Speaker 11: Tim lincego and win multiple Scions. Or you could be
Speaker 11: Randy Johnson at six foot ten or Aaron Judge at
Speaker 11: six foot seven. It's not quite basketball like in that regard,
Speaker 11: but there's a lot.
Speaker 5: Of basketball to it. There's no look to it, no, no,
Speaker 5: there's really the heart.
Speaker 11: It's just a question do you have the skill?
Speaker 4: Do you have the skill?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean pitching and baseball have always been the most
Speaker 2: Pitching the baseball has always been the.
Speaker 3: Most unique in that regard.
Speaker 2: Like you know, so you can if you work hard,
Speaker 2: you can grow up and be anything you want, not
Speaker 2: a basketball player, right, like I'm sorry. If you're five
Speaker 2: to seven just not going pro in the United States,
Speaker 2: you're I'm playing probably not in the NBA. Tim Lentium
Speaker 2: was weird in terms of his build, what he was
Speaker 2: able to do. He also came into the league at
Speaker 2: a point where I was at his major league debut
Speaker 2: May seventh or May sixth, two thousand and seven, something
Speaker 2: like that. He placed the Phillies on Sunday Night Baseball,
Speaker 2: and I remember we were like, it was shocking that
Speaker 2: he came out with throwing one hundred miles an hour,
Speaker 2: Like you didn't have guys that did that. You'd have
Speaker 2: closers that did it, and you had a few dudes
Speaker 2: who would do it at the at the starting pitcher position.
Speaker 2: But for a kid to come out and do that,
Speaker 2: then he wouldn't ice his arm. A couple of weeks later,
Speaker 2: he struck out ten in Houston for his first double
Speaker 2: dugit strikeout game. And that was the day I remember
Speaker 2: by Krico on the postgame show, he said, after a
Speaker 2: daylight today, you're gonna see a lot of guys start
Speaker 2: getting lyns comitis, where Linsingham's gonna roll into town and
Speaker 2: have to face the team and they're like, I'm not
Speaker 2: feeling good Today's say I think I'm gonna take the
Speaker 2: day off. So now it's fun always to hear guys
Speaker 2: talk about Linsingham and talk pitching. I just it's it's
Speaker 2: it was such a short lived era of Giants baseball.
Speaker 2: It doesn't get the run nationally, and I'm glad Passing
Speaker 2: thinks about it that it should continue to get because
Speaker 2: he's on a short guys with multiple World Series, multiple
Speaker 2: no hitters, and multiple Cy Young's, there's like five guys
Speaker 2: to do that.
Speaker 3: It's incredible, maybe maybe fewer.
Speaker 9: Kyle har askes yesterday who's the next guy that will
Speaker 9: be on the Wall of Fame? And he brought up Linseicom.
Speaker 9: You don't think he's coming back for something like that?
Speaker 3: I just said it could be Lensing. I'm like, I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: He's a recluse. He's come back for one thing ever,
Speaker 2: and it was Bruce Bochie's retirement, right, that was it,
Speaker 2: and he came back for something that wasn't about him.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's a guy that wants to be honored.
Speaker 2: Maybe down the road potentially, but last time I heard
Speaker 2: about him, he was he's playing golf of Sergio Romo.
Speaker 3: Nice was like, yeah, I just played with him. He
Speaker 3: showed me a photo of them on the golf course.
Speaker 3: Looks great. Still got the long hair, Tammy, he looks
Speaker 3: good man.
Speaker 2: So dirty work with you on a Friday afternoon, Adam
Speaker 2: Copeland deepop with you on the patio of fifty eight Social.
Speaker 3: We're gonna take a quick break when we come on back.
Speaker 2: John Morose, he joined us earlier in the show talking
Speaker 2: actually some Santase Sharks, but mostly some Giants baseball and
Speaker 2: how things look for the Giants after the trade deadline,
Speaker 2: will play.
Speaker 4: That for you.
Speaker 2: And then after that, if we got any time left
Speaker 2: before the end of the show, we'll do a little
Speaker 2: getting dirty with the filth. Handfully, you guys are members
Speaker 2: of the filth. Derek decided he was gonna set up
Speaker 2: a mic and we're gonna take one question and one question,
Speaker 2: one question and one question only from each person as
Speaker 2: long as time permits. We'll do that after we hear
Speaker 2: from John Morosi. It's sturty work. It's a Friday, It's
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