WEBVTT - Dirty Work recaps a busy day of Giants' roster changes and debate whether this is a full rebuild

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<v Speaker 1>It's dirty work on a Tuesday afternoon, filthiest day of

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<v Speaker 1>the week. Adam Copeland deep pop and look who's on

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<v Speaker 1>the board for us today. You heard it in the open.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the old open right, one night and one night only,

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Webster one after deciding a full show, Yeah, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>take it. Though. All it took was for like Danny

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<v Speaker 1>to be gone, some other part timers to be off,

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<v Speaker 1>and then also uh overnight Dave to get sick.

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<v Speaker 2>So we got Tim Webb bet so one.

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<v Speaker 1>Show was an act of God, the act of God, dude. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we got a short show for you today with you

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<v Speaker 1>until four oh five for Giants pregame Giants and the

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<v Speaker 1>Texas Rangers from Texas five oh five first pitch a

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<v Speaker 1>four oh five pregame. Buster Posey met with the media

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<v Speaker 1>and we, uh, we're gonna meet with each other and

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it. Yes, it's gonna hang out. We also have,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, because he's here, a special edition of Tim's Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, Tim's gonna be when we're not doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for this for quite some time, when Danny

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<v Speaker 1>would fill in and then we'd do we do Danny's

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<v Speaker 1>double dips, right and you're saved for one more week

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<v Speaker 1>where you don't have to do that. Or are we

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do like Jacob's deal somebody?

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, we're doing Kyle's Horrors.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. We'll figure out Kyle Kyle's Killer Lemonade

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<v Speaker 1>or something. Yeah, maybe I tried to drop that line

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<v Speaker 1>on him. That's how that's how much older we're getting.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't know super Bad.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't know Kyle's Killer Lemonade from Superbad. Come on, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty know what. But I'm gonna have to look

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<v Speaker 1>forward anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think next year. That movie's twenty years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, came out when I was a senior, right afa

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<v Speaker 1>I graduated high schooler. Oh yeah, but Tim's back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Tim's back. Tim's old than dust ude. Well yeah, as

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<v Speaker 1>I've told you before, Tim's older than the Dirty Sleep set. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>You should hurt merd today getting hot and bothered about

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<v Speaker 3>Madonna eighty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the thing I endorsed it, dude, I endorsed Murph

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<v Speaker 1>talking about his material from when he was when he

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<v Speaker 1>was becoming to be growing up to be a man. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and he's leaning the league in time off, I thought, dude,

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<v Speaker 4>Murph is he this GE's impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>Though, I'm not knocking it's impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>It's at the boat was putting a vacation, like Steph

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<v Speaker 1>Curry three pointers.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy's like, so he.

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<v Speaker 2>Just came back from San Diego and now he's going

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<v Speaker 2>on vacation again.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think he was gone for what you like

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<v Speaker 1>in Ireland for a while. He dropped his kid off

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<v Speaker 1>and just pants and eyes. He dropped his kid off

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<v Speaker 1>at at the at the Navy or something. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you mean, just dropp him at the coast somewhere. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I think it's I was just drive through the

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<v Speaker 1>water and then go ahead, take care of that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>go open that straight, figure that out for me. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Murph's off again. Yeah, I heard him. He was here

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<v Speaker 1>today for two days and he's like, all right, catch

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<v Speaker 1>you guys later, just in time to react to the

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<v Speaker 1>trade deadline and Posy Yeah good deal. I like want

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<v Speaker 1>to get into his buster. Posey spoke to the to

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<v Speaker 1>the media today. Tim, how's it feel? Man? Is this

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny because we're like, oh, dude, Tim's back, But

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<v Speaker 1>it also just means like a longer shift, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for two minutes it's just like.

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<v Speaker 3>Working more, you know what I mean, you know, when

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<v Speaker 3>the opportunity arose for this, but they were like, you're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna get an extra two hours.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, gee, thanks, good.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's nice to have people in the studio because

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<v Speaker 4>j D and Greg silver Red But yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, so they did. They did a lot of cow

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<v Speaker 3>chat today, which was fun. But there's that lull. What

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't really gotten my head around is it during

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<v Speaker 3>the mid days there is a lull where there is

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<v Speaker 3>no one here. Yeah, and so having some warm bodies

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<v Speaker 3>is kind of nice.

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<v Speaker 1>See good, Yeah you too, man. Well, yeah, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get my feels right, I'm gonna get my lion's share

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<v Speaker 1>at tim pretty it's coming off. The Niners is cranked

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<v Speaker 1>it up. Soon, groove in the car ready for We're

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<v Speaker 1>We're a week from uh Thursday is the first preseason game,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're nine days away.

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<v Speaker 2>From h Robert Sollas Tennessee Titans coming.

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<v Speaker 1>To town, as I've been calling them. In relation to

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<v Speaker 1>the Golden Yeah, because I've always thought Golden State was pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a pretty lame way to go about it,

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<v Speaker 1>Like like I didn't love California Angels, but I thought

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<v Speaker 1>Anaheim was better or not even in La County, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, not that the Nyers play in San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 1>played in the San Francisco Bay area, but I always

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<v Speaker 1>thought Golden State was pretty whack, especially because you, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you played in San Francisco. I never and you were

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<v Speaker 1>in Oakland, which was also a major city, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean? Like that, I didn't I didn't understand

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<v Speaker 1>ever as a kid. So I've started calling the Titans

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<v Speaker 1>the uh the Volunteer State Titans. That's what's what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going that's accurate.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, it starts a week from Thursday, where Tim's

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<v Speaker 4>drive you down to Levi's.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, that's our that's our only home preseason game

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<v Speaker 1>this year. Just nice, by the way, we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it later. But the Rams flying into Australia the day before,

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<v Speaker 1>by that, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Kind of like that, man, it's the Derek Papa way

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<v Speaker 4>to travel internationally.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, He's like, we don't even know who's playing baby dude,

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<v Speaker 1>who's gonna spend more time on their trip, the Rams

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<v Speaker 1>to Australia or Derek when he went to run.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a fourteen hour flight and they are just going

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<v Speaker 4>the day before and then leaving right afterwards.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I've been not that quickly. No, they're gonna spend

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<v Speaker 1>more time in the air than they will have in astress.

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<v Speaker 4>All of you mocked me for that, being like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you spend three days in Italy.

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<v Speaker 2>Sean mcvayh thinks the same way I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, the NFL the arrogance of an NFL coach. That

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<v Speaker 1>can just be like bodyclock. Look, we're looking at body clock.

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<v Speaker 1>Body clock's good, but we're more concerned with the real clock.

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing is when time you look at time,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really about gravity. It's a flat circle. We figure

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<v Speaker 1>body clock's a flat circle too. We're trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>that game clock a flat circle. Seere what we can

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<v Speaker 1>do on defense, and you know, we're looking for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fun and uh, you know, f sleep F

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<v Speaker 1>them picks, F those hours asleep not a big deal

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<v Speaker 1>for us. Yeah, pretty ACU. That's kind that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>how I think mcvay's gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus he's not even really care once Aaron Donald signs

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<v Speaker 1>that deal.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you see over the weekend someone asked him to

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<v Speaker 4>give his body language, his facial expressions on if Aaron

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<v Speaker 4>Donald's gonna come and he's such a goof too. They

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<v Speaker 4>were like, so, what's your confidence that Aaron Donald's coming back?

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, Dude, I gotta tell you, I've never been

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<v Speaker 1>so frustrated, like I like when Mookie Bets got traded

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<v Speaker 1>to the Dodgers. That just upset me because you like,

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<v Speaker 1>because I love watching mooki Bets play. Yeah, guy's a blast.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I love watching show Heyotani play. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I don't love now? Watching show Heotani play that much?

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<v Speaker 1>It's not cute anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>What about Trek Scuble now?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, I like, I love watching school pitch,

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<v Speaker 1>but pitchers are still different. It was, it's more like

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<v Speaker 1>the spectacle that he's showed Heyo Tani, where he'd throw

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred miles an hour and he'd hit a ball

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred miles an hour and hit five hundred feet,

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<v Speaker 1>like when he was an angel. As I said to

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<v Speaker 1>Rod Brooks when you were out of town for three

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<v Speaker 1>days in uh Italy, Italy, I said, dude, if I

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<v Speaker 1>could go back and like change one thing to have

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<v Speaker 1>happened that that didn't really affect me in sports, but

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<v Speaker 1>I want to change Yeah, but I got to like

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<v Speaker 1>make sure the Angels got a tani. He's kept o

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<v Speaker 1>tani because I was like, there's the most harmless place

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<v Speaker 1>he could be, right, like, like we don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>watch him hurt anybody. We can watch him put up

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<v Speaker 1>just meaningless numbers that nobody's ever put up before. We're like,

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<v Speaker 1>look at how cool that is, dude, And that's stupid

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<v Speaker 1>tea done in anah. It doesn't make any sense, no

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<v Speaker 1>big deal. But now he was out here like now

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<v Speaker 1>he's infringing on my happiness and my pleasure in getting

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get to enjoy his career in the same

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<v Speaker 1>way because he's a Dodger.

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<v Speaker 4>But you have to change like the whole philosophy. Who's

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<v Speaker 4>an ardy Moreno, the old current owner still right, Lady.

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<v Speaker 1>Marina is still there. He remember he put up a

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<v Speaker 1>petition to say he was going to sell the team.

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<v Speaker 1>And at first he said he was going to sell

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<v Speaker 1>the team. Then he said, you know how to change

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<v Speaker 1>my mind because everybody got stoked about it. Everybody was

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<v Speaker 1>super hyped that he was going to sell the team.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but you have to change his thought process where

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<v Speaker 4>it's like you should invest in a team that's good,

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<v Speaker 4>he goes.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, come on, I think they made the offer to Atani.

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<v Speaker 1>Also think they did. Yeah, they tried to, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>like you should have They should have traded it. He

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<v Speaker 1>should have traded him. My point here is like I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like. I didn't like. I really liked watching those

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<v Speaker 1>guys play before they went to the Dodgers. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like miffed about them being doed. Of course, that same

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<v Speaker 1>with like when when Jeff Kent left, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I love been being a giant. Didn't like when he

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<v Speaker 1>left and he talked smack and then he went to

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<v Speaker 1>l am like, yeah, forget this. Same with Jason Schmidt.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so heartbroken when Jason Schmidt said that's rough.

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<v Speaker 1>But then he barely played and it was okay, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean ended up being a great contract in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of how much money he took and how lookful as

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<v Speaker 1>a Dodge, how little he contributed. The difference with me

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<v Speaker 1>and Sean McVay is he didn't never coach anywhere else where.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a part of my lexicon or in my

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<v Speaker 1>life right. He was an assistant in other places. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not like you're getting front facing Sean McVay

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<v Speaker 1>all the time before he became the head coach of

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<v Speaker 1>the Rams. Yeah, and now that he's like developed this

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<v Speaker 1>like persona where first he's just the young sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like as screw this guy, let's see if you can

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<v Speaker 1>get it done whatever, turn things around quick, he becomes

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<v Speaker 1>this this whiz kid, this wonder kid type of coach. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And now to me, he's just like he's like a

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<v Speaker 1>baby Gruden in the term, like not in the personality

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<v Speaker 1>per se, but in the charisma, in the absolute positivity.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like he's like a Harbond and Gruden had a

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<v Speaker 1>baby almost. To me, yeah, Like he's.

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<v Speaker 4>The complete opposite of Kylee Shanahan and press conferences Wherekyle

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<v Speaker 4>just wants to get through.

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<v Speaker 1>It, I can't wait to yeah, where he's like riffing.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like constantly positive everyone things are going terrible for.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's been on record saying I hate the mid

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<v Speaker 4>game interview where selman Fay's like, yeah, you know, we played.

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<v Speaker 2>Well the first time, blah blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>These interviews are hard. They're hard enough. Best it is,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta do it in game. I felt for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel bad lot. I just figure we'reing this together.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a team guy, You're a team guy. We try

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<v Speaker 1>to get through it. Man. Yeah. By the way, we

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<v Speaker 1>need to bring back hosk You any questions anything I

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<v Speaker 1>like to know for he would what do you want

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<v Speaker 1>for dinner? What are you thinking about after the game?

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, we need to bring back coach speak.

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<v Speaker 1>There we go. We would have I.

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<v Speaker 4>Mean, like, did you see this whole thing with Liam

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<v Speaker 4>Cohen being but heard that the Jaguars don't get enough

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<v Speaker 4>publicity And he's like, yeah, I see Caleb Williams on

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<v Speaker 4>NFL dot Com all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on, hold on, Colin, you're the most wins, like

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<v Speaker 1>since ninety nine as a franchise last year. You're upset.

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<v Speaker 2>But he loves playing that car.

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<v Speaker 1>This reminds me exactly of when Jim Rome had his

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<v Speaker 1>TV show in ESPN Rome and he would just run

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<v Speaker 1>through topics, like you know on PTI when they've got

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<v Speaker 1>like the list of topics next to him, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>and they just run through just peppers through the rundown.

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<v Speaker 1>Rome would like start his show like that, or he'd

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<v Speaker 1>do like a Rome. He would like just like blaze

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<v Speaker 1>somebody right, you'll be on fire, so he'd just give

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<v Speaker 1>like a quick quip and everything. And there was one

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<v Speaker 1>who was the year that Hawaii was like eleven or

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<v Speaker 1>zero with Colt Brennan at quarterback, I know five, two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and six to six somewhere in there. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, uh remember because that's when we started the

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<v Speaker 1>BCS championship course. And so while Hawaii defeated, I think

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<v Speaker 1>they might have been the only endefeater or one of

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<v Speaker 1>the only other undefeateds, one of the top two, and

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<v Speaker 1>they did. It's like when Coastally Carolina named themselves national championship.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, you can they did. Yeah, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember that they gave out rings. Oh yeah, we'll go

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<v Speaker 1>back to two thousand and seven. Okay, that was seven

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<v Speaker 1>for the Colt Brennan team with Hawaii. So uh Brennan. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Brennan was like vocal about and dude, he's a college kid.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, yeah, man, we just get to play for

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<v Speaker 1>the national title. It's not our fault they schedule these games.

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<v Speaker 1>We just play who's in front of us. So they

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<v Speaker 1>never got renked higher than like, I don't know, let's

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know, maybe number eight nine, where were

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<v Speaker 1>they tim Maybe you can find it. They never got

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<v Speaker 1>ranked like in the top two to be a BCS contender,

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<v Speaker 1>right right, Yeah, So Rome is talking about her and

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<v Speaker 1>he goes Colt Brennan, you're wondering why Hawaii doesn't get

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<v Speaker 1>a shot out the national championship. First of all, you're Hawaii,

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<v Speaker 1>and if your argument, and then he moves on to

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<v Speaker 1>like the next bit, that's kind of where I'm out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Collen, you want more, you want more attention

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<v Speaker 1>for the Jags. First of all, you're the Jags. End

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<v Speaker 1>of your argument, You've got to continue to put up

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<v Speaker 1>numbers and you got to continue to win. Plus you're

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<v Speaker 1>in Jacksonville. Your owner like lobbied to play games overseas

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<v Speaker 1>so you could be the top team in London.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, and in the bowl game they faced

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<v Speaker 4>number four Georgia. You know the final out come of

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<v Speaker 4>that like thirty eight to three, forty one to ten. Yeah, dude,

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<v Speaker 4>they got rolled.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't play anybody that year. They got rolled San

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<v Speaker 1>Jose State. I remember that who they played. I played

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<v Speaker 1>Festival or something. Uh no, it was a Sugar Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a Share Bowl. Yeah. Oh, they played Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>Y Yeah, but they played SA was a state in

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<v Speaker 1>New Mexico state state. Yeah, that's about it. And if

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<v Speaker 1>your argument Cohen Yry Collen's pissed that the Bears are

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<v Speaker 1>getting run, it's the Chicago Bears. Now, there are teams

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<v Speaker 1>in sports that get unbelievable run nationally and on the

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<v Speaker 1>national talk shows regard like the Bears were gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>talked about whether Caleb Williams was playing in Chicago. They

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<v Speaker 1>are the Bears. I mean, it's did we watch have

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<v Speaker 1>do we watched this prior to this season? New York

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<v Speaker 1>Knicks get run all the time. Yeah, Cowboys haven't won

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<v Speaker 1>up but an MFY championship game in how.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh nineteen ninety five.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was warranted because they went to the

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<v Speaker 2>playoffs last year.

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<v Speaker 1>But said that, regardless what I'm saying, regardless of the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys are going to be talked about, The Lakers will

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<v Speaker 1>be talked about, the Celtics will be talked about, the

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<v Speaker 1>Nicks will be talked about. These are teams that it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really matter how good they are, They're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be like like Marquis Franchis, the Bulls don't still get

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<v Speaker 1>talked about a bunch.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they get no run no because Michael Jordan.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're not at the NFL. No, it's different.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I think it's just funny.

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<v Speaker 4>Liam Cohen's like, how come they're not talking about this

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<v Speaker 4>like Aaron Rodgers just Nam McAfee.

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<v Speaker 2>How come they're not bringing this stuff up on the network?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Dirty? Yes, Rogers bitching about the same stuff, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're gonna Fauci and Diana Rossidia.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what'd you expect due to fucking Fauci on ESPN?

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, what did you think Rogers thought of Fauci?

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<v Speaker 6>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I didn't need Rogers take on it. We

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<v Speaker 1>all knew what you thought.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro, I'm surprised.

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<v Speaker 4>But he's like, how come the network's not bringing up

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<v Speaker 4>Fauci like ESPN's talking about Fauci.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Rogers looks at Coverd the way I look at

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<v Speaker 1>his wife. Neither exists anyway? Canby our four one, five,

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<v Speaker 1>five sixty seven is the number to call and the

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<v Speaker 1>number de text where we come on back? More from

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<v Speaker 1>Buster Posey spoke on the Giants Big Trade deadline. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>the question I've got for callers and for listeners what's

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing Buster made crystal clear this trade deadline?

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<v Speaker 1>If you can pull anything away from this trade deadline,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the one thing he made crystal clear? We'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to your calls. We'll talk about that next. Plus, Tim

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<v Speaker 1>is back for a half show, a short show. It

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<v Speaker 1>only took like eight people being out for him to

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<v Speaker 1>get here. But we are going to do Tim's Tuesday

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<v Speaker 1>takes in trivia. It's Tim the whole Man Web on

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<v Speaker 1>a Tuesday on The Sports Leader.

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<v Speaker 6>Now back to Dirty Work. Adam Copeland and Derek pop.

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<v Speaker 1>On K and B R one oh, four, five and

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<v Speaker 1>six eighty am The Sports Leader. Dirty Work on a

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday afternoon, filthiest day of the week. Sure you know

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<v Speaker 1>yet to the weekend. You're far from the last one.

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<v Speaker 1>So they got Humpday ahead of you. And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>we're here for you in Dirty Work. Hell yeah, we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to the film for tuning in. Tim. Tim's hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with us for the day, which is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fun. Who's with us the rest of the week?

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<v Speaker 1>We got we got oh do you know?

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<v Speaker 6>Tim?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>No, Kyle Horror, I think tomorrow and then Thursday, No

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<v Speaker 4>rast with us back tomorrow then it's Kyle Horror on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 4>and then we get a double dose of chips and

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<v Speaker 4>horror on Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>Good. Chips and horror sounds good. I'm not sure what

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<v Speaker 1>cuisine that is. Ships and hars sounds delicious. Roasted chips

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<v Speaker 1>and horror. Chips and roasted horror. Yeah, I like that,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, we asprey taste. We do have giants pregame

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<v Speaker 1>at four oh five, and we will get into some

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<v Speaker 1>of the stuff that happened today with Buster posey uh

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of the media and given some more updates as

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<v Speaker 1>to what happened yesterday. Six players traded off the big

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<v Speaker 1>league roster and by the way, the lineup is out today,

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<v Speaker 1>there's been a couple of guys called U. Buddy Kennedy's here,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the DH today. I don't know what happened with

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<v Speaker 1>Bryce Elders got an up date for one. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>tell us because Elders was in there yesterday. Nate Furman

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<v Speaker 1>in there, and then you had to I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>his name.

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<v Speaker 4>And then so he's got a left thumb bruise after

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<v Speaker 4>getting jammed a few times last week. He said the

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<v Speaker 4>planets for him to start at first base tomorrow. He's

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<v Speaker 4>also available to run any night if they need.

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<v Speaker 1>Is stolen bad right, So nothing huge for for Bryce Eldridge,

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<v Speaker 1>but dealing with the thumb Brews also, uh, we got

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<v Speaker 1>this do guy Eddie's Leonard?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>In their left field, it's gonna be a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>new guys. I was signed, uh I guess by the

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<v Speaker 1>Dodgers like seven years ago. He was still only twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five years old. Giants that acquire, and he's been in

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<v Speaker 1>the miners. He's only played a handful of games in Sacramento,

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw he was only hit maybe only like

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<v Speaker 1>six or eight games or something like that in Sacramento.

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<v Speaker 1>He's only hitting a buck forty three, only has four hits,

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<v Speaker 1>but all four our home runs. Not bad. So he's

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<v Speaker 1>in there's five to eleven. He's got some bat speed, apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>can play all over the nfield. He's in there left

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<v Speaker 1>field today. So we'll talk more about that and just

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<v Speaker 1>a bit. But the question I'm asking really is what's

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing you think Buster made crystal clear at

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<v Speaker 1>this trade deadline? And I wrote that a couple of things.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I'll run these by.

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<v Speaker 1>You tell me what you think I got one do

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<v Speaker 1>we might I give mine real quick. Yeah, sure, my

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<v Speaker 1>list is longer than one.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I figured, yeah, But what was was abundantly clear

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<v Speaker 4>yesterday was pitching is the future.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I wrote he values pitching. Yep, that's that's one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna ask you these, but I wrote that

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<v Speaker 1>one down was something that I totally agree with, that

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<v Speaker 1>he values pitching, because I think it's important note that,

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<v Speaker 1>because even as recently as yesterday, we had callers saying,

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<v Speaker 1>for a guy who won these championships with all this pitching,

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<v Speaker 1>he should know how important it is to develop pitching

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<v Speaker 1>and black a lot of I don't think he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>believe that. I think he absolutely knows that. The difference

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<v Speaker 1>in that philosophy with how he operated the team was

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<v Speaker 1>that he came in and he poured money into spots

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<v Speaker 1>on the roster that were needed. And I think we

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<v Speaker 1>all felt exiting the far Han era that there were

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<v Speaker 1>so many guys that they missed out on or did

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<v Speaker 1>not lock up long term or superstar like cornerstone players.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he just pigeonholed himself into having too many

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<v Speaker 1>eggs in one basket. It didn't work out. And here's

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing that I believe to be true. No

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<v Speaker 1>matter what is said, there's no belief I think for

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<v Speaker 1>any of us that they don't have a budget, that

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<v Speaker 1>he was not given a number. And I think when

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<v Speaker 1>he says that, even if he's being truthful to some extent,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he knows, yeah, we can go over if

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<v Speaker 1>a certain guy becomes available. But that's not saying we

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<v Speaker 1>were being willing to go over budget for one special occasion.

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<v Speaker 1>If you say, hey, this month, we're not spending X,

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<v Speaker 1>Y and Z on your personal budget. We're not eating out,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not at restaurants, we're not going to do anything

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<v Speaker 1>extra curricular. We're spending weekends at home. But then your

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<v Speaker 1>buddy calls and goes, hey, I got engaged. We're having

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<v Speaker 1>a party. You're like, all right, special occasion, we'll make

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<v Speaker 1>an exception. That's not being willing to get that's not

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<v Speaker 1>over budget type spending. The Dodgers are willing to take

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<v Speaker 1>a risk and overspend and give up prospects and do

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<v Speaker 1>things that nobody else is. I think other teams are

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<v Speaker 1>capable of doing, but other teams are not willing to do,

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<v Speaker 1>or because the Dodgers have so much success that have

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<v Speaker 1>been so financially stable are in a position where they

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<v Speaker 1>can handle and accept the blows more than other teams can. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants aren't willing to go over even though their

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<v Speaker 1>ballparks paid off and so on and so forth. I

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<v Speaker 1>would say that so when Buster's like, no, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>given a budget, Greg Johnson also made it clear they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't going to give long term contracts to pitchers. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so we kind of knew, like, how can those two

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<v Speaker 1>things go hand at hand? So with the way the

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<v Speaker 1>roster was constructed, I think we all thought, Okay, they

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<v Speaker 1>went really big budget on the back end of this

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<v Speaker 1>rotation and clearly on the bullpen, really signing nobody of

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<v Speaker 1>significance Henches and fully we're like the only two they

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<v Speaker 1>gave deals too. So I think he's showing that he

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<v Speaker 1>does still value pitching. And in concert with that I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote that he values organizational depth. I think he knows that, Like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>they keep acquiring shortstops, they keep acquiring high talent, big

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<v Speaker 1>athletic type players at a really young age in the

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<v Speaker 1>international pool and in the regular draft class. And they've

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<v Speaker 1>also now made a strong commitment this year and last

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<v Speaker 1>to pitching. Right, to at least add that, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>not something. In Caller yesterday it says it's great they've

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<v Speaker 1>hadded this pitching, but they're not proving they can develop it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the last regime didn't really, but this regime is going

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<v Speaker 1>to go about it. I would hope differently because you

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<v Speaker 1>know that they value it in a different way, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think they've gone about that. Okay, here's another one

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote down. Did he make clear to you that

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's safe?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, not like a Crystal Clear, But I think his

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<v Speaker 4>answer yesterday saying well, we're going diamond Clarity.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not top of the line, but it's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got a yellow tint.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, while we were wrapped up in the moment

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<v Speaker 4>of all the trades happening in real time, I may

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<v Speaker 4>have overreacted being like, wow, they're really like changing things here.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really more of a pivot, a a pivot than

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<v Speaker 4>a rebuild where there's a lot of guys on this roster.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean there's also the big the big time contracts,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's easier said than done to move off of

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<v Speaker 4>those guys. So I think it's gonna be a mix

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<v Speaker 4>of Yes, I still want to see what we can

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<v Speaker 4>have out of these guys that are still on the team,

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<v Speaker 4>as far as Junghuli, Willia Damas, Raphael Devers and Matt Chapman.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna hesitate in the off season to pull

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<v Speaker 4>the trigger on another move. So yes, by him saying

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<v Speaker 4>we let teams know that everybody was available, I still

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<v Speaker 4>think he could revisit trades with Logo Web and all

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<v Speaker 4>the guys I just mentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he did he make crystal clear to you that

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<v Speaker 1>he isn't sentimental?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure that was made clear yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, I look, the Elliott Ramos one is

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<v Speaker 1>the one move that you would hit on that you

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<v Speaker 1>say that, But it's not like there's a huge sentiment

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<v Speaker 1>from him. I also like, I don't seemingly they've had

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<v Speaker 1>a good player in return. But again, these are all

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<v Speaker 1>just prospects. Prospects are great, Yes, all they are is potential,

0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:54.080
<v Speaker 1>and potential is unlimited until it's realized, right, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's all just everything can look great at SAWS. Susan

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<v Speaker 1>Selester says she talked to a scout yesterday. We said

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants cleaned up right, and I was like cool,

0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:03.680
<v Speaker 1>that's great that scouts feel that way, but scouts get

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<v Speaker 1>most things wrong, right, That's t evidence by how few

0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:09.760
<v Speaker 1>guys get to the major league. So not that they're

0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:11.960
<v Speaker 1>wrong that they shouldn't be pros, but like who knows

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<v Speaker 1>until that guy gets to the major leagues has other

0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:18.160
<v Speaker 1>players adjust to their adjustments and they've got to figure

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<v Speaker 1>it out again, like can they have sustained big league careers?

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<v Speaker 1>And being a really good player doesn't mean an All Star,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean you'll ever get back what you had in

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<v Speaker 1>Elliott Ramos. But I do think he's proven, hey, just

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<v Speaker 1>because of the feelings, like let me rephrase it, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you. I don't think he proved he's not sentimental.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think Buster showed that he's willing to

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<v Speaker 1>make decisions that are maybe not the most popular if

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<v Speaker 1>he believes they're right. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he showed that a year ago when his former

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<v Speaker 2>teammate Late Night lamon.

0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Lamon is df fade so fair enough and.

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<v Speaker 2>He reflected on that a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>But also, like when I was listening to the audio

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<v Speaker 4>this morning of Buster posey, I was kind of expecting

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<v Speaker 4>him to be like, yeah, Elie Ramos, you know, an

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<v Speaker 4>All Star for us, you know, all the moments he

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<v Speaker 4>had in the last few years, but he really just

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<v Speaker 4>didn't care to bring that up.

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<v Speaker 2>He kind of just looked looked as usual.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't I think he's just kind of that

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<v Speaker 4>guy where he's going to focus on the trades and

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<v Speaker 4>more the people that were part of the organization. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think you proved that yesterday. I think he's just

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<v Speaker 4>he's ready to move on, and he shows that he's

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<v Speaker 4>willing to do that with anybody right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let me ask you this. Did he make clear

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday that he has a long term vision? Yes. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's an important one too, because that's all I

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<v Speaker 1>said was I wanted direction, and I think he's proven

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<v Speaker 1>that while we knew his short term vision was right now,

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<v Speaker 1>right now, it's time to go. We saw those major

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<v Speaker 1>league changes. Yeah, last year, I think he showed, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a vision for the future and it is

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<v Speaker 1>about pitching and athleticism.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I based on what he's tried to pack the system with.

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<v Speaker 4>I believed him when he was introduced a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>years ago when he said he wanted to compete with

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<v Speaker 4>the Dodgers, and I think at that time, he was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to build a team that's going to challenge them.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to go get Ravel devers Ad before the

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<v Speaker 4>trade deadline. But since that time, I think he's realized.

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<v Speaker 4>I keep talking about the evaluation season of last year.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he looked at the entire roster. I think

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<v Speaker 4>he looked at what he had and a manager in

0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:00.480
<v Speaker 4>Bob Melvin, and thought to himself, you know what, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not sure they're as good as I thought they were.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm gonna get a college coach in here, the

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<v Speaker 4>guy that I trust in, a guy I believe in.

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<v Speaker 4>But if we need to pivot where it's a much

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<v Speaker 4>younger roster, then I think that he can take the

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<v Speaker 4>reins here and he can show you know, what he's

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<v Speaker 4>good at by building a team with you know, young

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<v Speaker 4>guys knowing to go out there to the college ranks

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<v Speaker 4>and finding talent there. So I think it's where the

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<v Speaker 4>next few years we're gona see a mix of him

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<v Speaker 4>trying and still compete with a lot of guys on

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<v Speaker 4>this roster still that making big time money, but at

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<v Speaker 4>the same time, he won't hesitate to pull the trigger

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<v Speaker 4>to make a move.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what's interval, and we'll see what happens with the

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<v Speaker 1>coaching staff. Not that there's changes coming. I don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>this offseason if I Tello, But I do wonder, like

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<v Speaker 1>everything we're talking about with these young players coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>that's still like twenty I'm looking forward to twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight and nine to see what these guys may be

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<v Speaker 1>capable of. But I don't know what twenty twenty seven holds.

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<v Speaker 1>And is Towny Vitello still the right guy for like

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<v Speaker 1>where they are now, Like is he the right manager

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<v Speaker 1>for this group of players. I don't know, because I

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<v Speaker 1>really do think that's a fit thing. Let's go to

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<v Speaker 1>the phone lines at eight Oa camb Are four pint

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<v Speaker 1>five eight to eight, five six two seven. Hank is

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<v Speaker 1>in the East Bay. What up, Hank? You're on the

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Leader.

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<v Speaker 8>Hey guys, would you guys think of the trade deadline?

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<v Speaker 8>Thumbs up or thumbs down?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess thumbs up to actually like make some moves here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to like it's I won't say like incomplete,

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<v Speaker 1>because they made I think they did the right thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, like philosophically they did the right thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>almost want to ask the question if you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do as much as you did, why was anybody off limits?

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<v Speaker 5>Why?

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<v Speaker 1>Why was it mostly restricted to guys who were expiring

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<v Speaker 1>contracts or relievers or ancillary pieces Like I almost was like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna go in for a penny, go in

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<v Speaker 1>for a pound and make everybody available and try to

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<v Speaker 1>flip a bunch like that would have been my idea

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<v Speaker 1>of getting into a full rebuild, even if you have

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<v Speaker 1>those three big contracts. I don't hate. I philosophically like

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<v Speaker 1>what they did. I like what they got back on paper,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's no way of knowing if it was good

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<v Speaker 1>or bad.

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<v Speaker 8>From my perspective, I look at it like, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>outside of a ballpark opening or like a playoff World

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<v Speaker 8>Series run, you'd never seen thirty eight thousand game for

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<v Speaker 8>a team fifteen hundred, five hundred. I thought we should

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<v Speaker 8>have kept the band together because I felt like they

0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:08.320
<v Speaker 8>had like the fifth element.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, And what do you mean? I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>Doug Bruce Willis movie good, great, great, Chris Tucker movie. Yeah, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>What I mean is that, you know, to get thirty

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<v Speaker 8>eight thousand a night with fifteen under that's very difficult

0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:32.240
<v Speaker 8>to do and to do that you have to have

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<v Speaker 8>an extremely likable group of players. And I would have

0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:40.040
<v Speaker 8>kept it together because you know, people don't realize. You know,

0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:43.080
<v Speaker 8>people talk about Robbie Thompson and Will Clark, Matt Williams,

0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:48.560
<v Speaker 8>Kevin Mitchell, those guys had brutal years, brutal and and

0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:52.960
<v Speaker 8>but people, but we still love those guys. So pause,

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<v Speaker 8>and I just think that, you know that we're developing

0:23:56.760 --> 0:24:00.440
<v Speaker 8>a real sick culture like some Rolling Stones grateful, and

0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:03.640
<v Speaker 8>I think it was just real silly. But I don't

0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:06.120
<v Speaker 8>have the financials, so yeah, Well here's.

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<v Speaker 1>What's interesting, though, dude, is like this, what I'm seeing

0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:09.840
<v Speaker 1>yesterday hand is like I did inter keep the band together?

0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:11.800
<v Speaker 1>I disagree. I think you had to make the moves

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<v Speaker 1>you make because eighteen under. They were eighteen under going

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:16.919
<v Speaker 1>into yesterday's game, right or I think that's where they

0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:18.399
<v Speaker 1>were at eighteen games hunder before they got the win

0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:20.840
<v Speaker 1>last night. So what I would say is like the

0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:23.240
<v Speaker 1>thirty five thousand who are showing up to the ballpark,

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<v Speaker 1>God bless them, the Giants love them. They're they're lining

0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:27.960
<v Speaker 1>in their pockets. I mean they're showing up, they're spending

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<v Speaker 1>money because going to the ballpark is a spectacle and

0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:31.760
<v Speaker 1>it's a place to be. It's an event, it's a

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:33.920
<v Speaker 1>place to hang out. But those aren't the thirty five

0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:36.320
<v Speaker 1>thousand die hard Those aren't. Those aren't the people that like,

0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:39.159
<v Speaker 1>if you were a fan base elsewhere there was a

0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:41.280
<v Speaker 1>bigger football team here, there was something else going on.

0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:43.760
<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you that that or that ballpark was

0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:46.560
<v Speaker 1>the Oakland Coliseum. It's not how people would feel because

0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:48.760
<v Speaker 1>there it didn't really matter how much they won. People

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:51.440
<v Speaker 1>still weren't showing up with that clip because ownership didn't

0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:54.359
<v Speaker 1>seem to care about the fan base. Like, I'm not

0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:55.560
<v Speaker 1>going to put that on the team, but what I

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 1>will say is, like there's seven of the nine guys

0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:00.960
<v Speaker 1>that started this year's that we would call the best

0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:03.560
<v Speaker 1>nine guys in the lineup right now. Seven of those

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:04.880
<v Speaker 1>guys are going to be in the lineup next year

0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:07.680
<v Speaker 1>and for the remainder of this season. Raphael Devers, Bryce Elders,

0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 1>Casey Schmidt's out, but he'll be back next year as well.

0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:13.879
<v Speaker 1>Jung Houli played last night. Susak will be out there, correct,

0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:17.719
<v Speaker 1>not Korea, Willia Damas, Matt Chapman, Like these are all

0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:20.760
<v Speaker 1>pretty much the same dudes that'll be there. Barrakoto is

0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:22.159
<v Speaker 1>still going to be around, Like you've got all these

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 1>players that were here this year. The guys that gave

0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:26.840
<v Speaker 1>up were mostly bullpit arms and to expire in contract,

0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:28.520
<v Speaker 1>you might have been gone anyway. So I'm not really

0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:31.320
<v Speaker 1>not really all that concerned about keeping it together. Plus,

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 1>you can't keep together in eighteen under you can and

0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:36.280
<v Speaker 1>then expect the fans to keep showing up next year

0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:37.879
<v Speaker 1>and do the same thing over and over. So I

0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:39.960
<v Speaker 1>pursued the call, but I disagree to some extent.

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:42.480
<v Speaker 4>No, I mean to run it back, like I get it,

0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:45.280
<v Speaker 4>like you enjoy this team to some extent because they're

0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:47.400
<v Speaker 4>fun at times and they have a bunch of Grand Slams,

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 4>But that would be for an office meal practice and

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<v Speaker 4>not doing anything of the trade deadline. And also you

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:54.239
<v Speaker 4>know yesterday, yes I was caught up in and be like, oh,

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 4>this is a teardown, not really, like Andy Begley put

0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:58.159
<v Speaker 4>it pretty well today on the Morning Show, being like,

0:25:58.200 --> 0:26:00.639
<v Speaker 4>it's not a complete rebuild, Like if they were going

0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:02.400
<v Speaker 4>to rebuild, they would have traded Logan Web.

0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 2>And he makes a great point at the trade deadline

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<v Speaker 2>with what Trek.

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<v Speaker 4>Scooble went for They probably could probably could have got

0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:10.320
<v Speaker 4>something better for Logan Web with the trade deadline, but

0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:11.920
<v Speaker 4>Buster Posey maybe he didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>But in the end, but he stays on the team.

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:16.920
<v Speaker 4>So I think what we come away from yesterday is that, yes,

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:18.960
<v Speaker 4>changes need to be made, and it's tough to see

0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:21.200
<v Speaker 4>Elliott Ramos go with the potential that he has. But

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<v Speaker 4>it's not a complete rebuild. It's you know, trading away

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<v Speaker 4>expiring contracts. But also there could be more moves on

0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:31.040
<v Speaker 4>the horizon. But yes, Buster Posey prioritizes pitching going forward

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<v Speaker 4>for this team.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, we gotta take a quick break. We'd have

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:36.960
<v Speaker 1>pregame Giants and the Texas Rangers four oh five pre

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:40.040
<v Speaker 1>game for a five or five first pitch? Do we

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<v Speaker 1>want do we want to hear from Buster? We want

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<v Speaker 1>to we want to stick with Giants or you think

0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 1>we want to jump into some football. Let's you know what,

0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Giants the story today. Let's let' let's stick with that

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<v Speaker 1>for a little bit. It's rare. I say that, but wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, tim My, how things have changed. I know, right,

0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I go away for a couple of months and now

0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:57.879
<v Speaker 1>you're a baseball guy. So what do you want to do?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think we should do next?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Tim's the guest. Wow, I think he should stay

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<v Speaker 3>with the Giants. I think you should hear from bushro Okay, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, dude, we got sound from Ricky pearsall or some

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:11.440
<v Speaker 1>audio about Ricky Pierce. So no, I'm kidding to take

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 1>it to our opinions account at all. I didn't care

0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 1>at all. I'm doing what I want to do. When

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<v Speaker 1>we come on the show tomorrow, we'll come on back.

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<v Speaker 1>It's whatever Derek wants. More Giants talk on these sparks,

0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Dallas Mootie, Pass thirty work on a Tuesday afternoon, Adam Copeland,

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Deep Pop, Tim Webban, get out with you by way.

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<v Speaker 1>Danny's out in Chicago right.

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<v Speaker 2>He is trying to get us a souvenir.

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<v Speaker 1>He did Texas and say he got a souvenirs already?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you want to get like a little bean there?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think he showed us. Uh he went

0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:55.639
<v Speaker 1>to the bean. Yeah, and he and he went to

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:57.159
<v Speaker 1>like the gift shop till he gave you a toy bean.

0:27:57.240 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Tell you what I been to the bean. Didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>know there was a gift shop. Yeah, I want to

0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:01.879
<v Speaker 1>buy being Yeah. No, he remember he was gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>us a sponge that was a beam Remember it was

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:08.640
<v Speaker 1>like it was like a dish sponge. Got a funny sponge? Yeah, yeah,

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 1>not the ones for sex. I felt up. He got

0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:13.960
<v Speaker 1>a sponges.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's the last episode and he's like, uh, yeah,

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:18.639
<v Speaker 4>she was buying sponges, not the one he cleaned with

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<v Speaker 4>one for sex.

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<v Speaker 1>Game be ours number to call the number of text

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<v Speaker 1>not on sponges on the Giants the Giants trade down line.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to J Jay's helos. Got I she's been

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<v Speaker 1>waiting on the line. Jay, what's up, dude? You're on

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<v Speaker 1>the Sports Leader.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey, how's it going?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh? Pretty good, dude.

0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 7>Hey, I'm on a Giant season ticket older and uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm kind of upset that I got my invoice and

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<v Speaker 7>the price went up again for next year.

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then it did. Okay.

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<v Speaker 7>My thing is I got a question that no one's

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<v Speaker 7>really been talking. All Right, guys, two years from now,

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:49.800
<v Speaker 7>Tony D's contracts up, we're sixty.

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<v Speaker 5>Five and ninety seven eight. Do you resign him? And

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<v Speaker 5>that's the last year of logan webs. Does he walk

0:28:58.160 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 5>and want to go to.

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<v Speaker 7>A team to give title potentially.

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<v Speaker 5>I agree, Well, here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>If things aren't improved as like by next year, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's on the table. Logan Web could be moved

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 1>at the deadline, and same to say in twenty twenty eight,

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 1>like you're talking about walking unless they offer him an

0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 1>extension between now and then, which I think is still

0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:19.240
<v Speaker 1>on the table. I think it's maybe something that they'd

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 1>want to do. I would think so. But it like

0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:23.880
<v Speaker 1>if he doesn't sign an extension and his contract is expired,

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't expect him to be here if the team

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<v Speaker 1>is still floundering now, if nothing improves, or you're still

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 1>under five hundred and two years, unless you're you've got

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>a trajectory. Like the way I would think about it,

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Jay is like you go back to Bochi gets hired

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and seven, right, and he's there to

0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 1>like usher out the Bonds era. So Bochi's they're no. Seven,

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 1>they're no good, Oh eight, they're no good, but oh nine.

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Bochi goes into that season as a lame duck manager

0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 1>with no contract after that year. But they win eighty

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 1>eight games and they missed the playoff. But they won

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 1>eighty eight. You've got to have some trajectory or some upswing.

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 1>They can't keep floundering or toiling in mediocrity or worse

0:29:57.960 --> 0:29:59.920
<v Speaker 1>and then have a guy get renewed. That's bad optic,

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 1>That looks bad on the whole organization. So the question is,

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 1>if they haven't improved in twenty twenty eight, I would ask, like,

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:07.959
<v Speaker 1>what does next year look like? And if if it's

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>not improved, why are we still sitting there in twenty

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 1>twenty eight with the same situation. So it's not I mean,

0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>we can't project two years out, but if things are

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 1>this bad or around this bad in two years, I

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:20.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know why anybody would still be here.

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 5>I didn't like the Higher. I really didn't. I played

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 5>college ball and I didn't get drafted. But if I

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 5>got drafted and was blessed to play in the major leagues,

0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:34.520
<v Speaker 5>I would want my manager to be able to tell

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 5>me how it was for him going through the minors

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 5>or in the majors, what he did durnis slump, or

0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 5>what he saw with fellow major league players. He can't

0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 5>tell them that. So that was my thing with the Higher.

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 5>I didn't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I hear you man, I totally appreciate that, Jay, thanks

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 1>for the call.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean that's more than fair.

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's what it's what anybody who ever says, ah,

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 1>that person's too young for this job, or they don't

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 1>understand they haven't lived long enough. Really, that's just what

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 1>it's about, right, It's about living through enough experiences that

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 1>you can have empathy with somebody else or compassion to understand,

0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 1>even if it's not identical to say, I can remember

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 1>a time I was in a situation like that that

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 1>I can put myself in your shoes. And I'm talking

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking bigger picture of life more than i'm talking

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 1>just baseball, right, But I understand all that now to

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:23.479
<v Speaker 1>your point that you're making. And murphastbustered this question when

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 1>he was on a couple of weeks ago. He said,

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 1>do you think and he goes, I'm just asking in general,

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:29.920
<v Speaker 1>do you think, Like, not to take anything away from

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 1>relationships with guys now on the roster, but he said,

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:34.080
<v Speaker 1>do you think Tony would be better suited with a

0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:36.400
<v Speaker 1>really young roster just being that those are guys maybe

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 1>he's more comfortable around in terms of their development, Like

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 1>I think It's impossible to answer that directly, but if

0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 1>that really was the plan, this would be a weird

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 1>situation to bring Tony into since you didn't come into

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 1>the season with a really young roster. You didn't come

0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:52.960
<v Speaker 1>into the season with a bunch of guys at the

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 1>major league level or close to it to be developed.

0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 1>So if the plan was for that to happen in

0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 1>three years, it is odd then that it happened right

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 1>now with this hire. But that meant that Buster thought

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 1>this was the right guy for this team and for

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 1>the future. Yeah, but that was a changing culture, And

0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>that's the question I keep asking, is what culture has

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 1>evolved or changed under Vitello. I'd say to his point, nothing.

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 4>Well, I would say for I mean, not that it's cemented,

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 4>but I think Tony Vitel is coming back next year

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 4>and that that he gets a pass for the rest

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:20.440
<v Speaker 4>of this season. He has to show some growth next

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 4>year as well. But I think it's also where Buster realized,

0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 4>if this team is not good and I need to

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 4>pivot and make this team younger, closer to a college

0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 4>team than Tony Vitel is the right guy for this now.

0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 4>Can he connect to veterans that's the biggest question. That

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 4>was my biggest thing coming into the season, along with

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 4>managing a bullpen. But like, can you relate to Rafield Devers.

0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 4>He could go on, you know, a trip with Willia

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 4>Domisa jung wu Lei, but can he relate to those veterans.

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 4>And that's maybe the human aspect of it, But as

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 4>far as like an inexperienced, you know, college coach, that's

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 4>going to be tough. So I think that Buster wanted

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:52.600
<v Speaker 4>his cake and eat it two where this guy is

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 4>good enough, I just want him on my team. But

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 4>if it's going to be where we have to change

0:32:56.880 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 4>things up, I feel comfortable that he can relate to

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 4>college players.

0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:01.880
<v Speaker 1>This cake and to eat at Pew like Florence we're

0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 1>talking about yes, yes, sitting in that bathtub and Spider Man,

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 1>you got a Russian bath dude that she called her office.

0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 1>It's not a coming out.

0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 2>Did she take a visit?

0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 1>She made him strip down. She's like, hey, come on, yeah,

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 1>it is underwear. Yeah, but she's like you gotta get

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 1>in and he's like, you won't take the mask.

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 2>But it's it's because she doesn't want to see if

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 2>he has weapons or anything.

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, She's like, that's why you gotta get it. You've

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 1>seen it. No, I haven't. I just you know, people

0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know this one scene with Flora's play in the bathroom,

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 1>in the bathroom, let's move on, all right, dude, what

0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 1>are you getting your murph on with Madonna eighty three?

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 1>And come on? He's like Florence Pugh twenty twenty six.

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 2>I can't tell you what's on my for you page.

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Dirty Laundry, But Italy gave me our four and five

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:38.720
<v Speaker 1>away five sixty seven. Everybody our care for talking Niners?

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Now everybody can we haven't played the audio yet either.

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 1>All right, we'll play some Buster at we can find. Dude, fine, do.

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 6>You know me? Man?

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Dude?

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:46.959
<v Speaker 2>How about Jones in the Talks of Giants?

0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Derek legit? Can I show behind the scenes? Can I

0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 1>tell what happened with our interaction earlier? Sure? Derek text

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 1>me before the show, like, and I was still at home.

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:54.200
<v Speaker 1>He goes, do you think we should Giants for like

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 1>the whole first hour? Do you think we should go

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 1>like react to Buster a bit and then we can

0:33:57.120 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 1>jump into some some Niner stuff? And I said, did

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 1>you know me? I'm a football guy? I'm like football

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 1>through and through. I've always been a football guy. Yeah,

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 1>that kid that's were like righting off scores and Derek

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, we're going right into Fine, we'll talk

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 1>some football. Heauess I'm a football guy too for sure.

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Now this guy's clamoring for more baseball. Well, so you'll

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 1>hear from Buster posey because Derek wants, nay demands you do.

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Hey, come on, all right, I give the people what

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:18.759
<v Speaker 2>they want.

0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Is that what they want? I think today tomorrow is

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 1>a different story. I thought I was. I thought that

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 1>was what I want. Thought that's why you asked me.

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted your opinion. Literally, nobody's responding to you

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:32.319
<v Speaker 1>but me. Right now. You only have my opinion to hear.

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>But you're still taking what you think? What line say?

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:36.840
<v Speaker 1>What's YouTube saying? You check it out? Man, I don't know.

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 1>You gotta read them all four O wa checks itu.

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, dude, they're all checking it on giants because

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 1>we're talking giants. Yeah, I know. We'll hear from Buster

0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:47.440
<v Speaker 1>next and then we'll get into Ah, why don't we

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe we do a split segment. What if we start

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:53.080
<v Speaker 1>with Buster and then if we are if We're like,

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:54.920
<v Speaker 1>if you and I are really struggling, we're like floundering

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:59.399
<v Speaker 1>for things to talk about. What's happened. Sometimes we'll jump

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:01.279
<v Speaker 1>into some nine. Yeah, if we can, are we if

0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:02.959
<v Speaker 1>we don't tell anybody, we do it. We just shift

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:04.319
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the segment. I think we can pull

0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 1>it off.

0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you just feel like transition, all right, So you'll

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 2>hear way, you'll.

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:09.959
<v Speaker 1>Hear from Buster poses how about this tease? Has Buster

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Posey proven he'll make the difficult choice even if it's

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:18.440
<v Speaker 1>not popular because he thinks it's smart. Also, maybe where

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:21.879
<v Speaker 1>does brock perty stand and Mike Sanders quarterback tears? All

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 1>of that and more come on your way next. It's

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:25.719
<v Speaker 1>thirty work on a Tuesday. It's the filthiest day of

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:27.520
<v Speaker 1>the week and it's only here on these Sports Leader.

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 6>Now back to dirty work. Adam Copeland and Derek Papa

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty work on a Tuesday afternoon Outam Copeland, Deep Pop,

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Webb hanging out with you mentioned Danny's out of

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<v Speaker 1>town for the rest of the week. He is he

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be at the Cubs Dodger game tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe well, we didn't get it. We need a

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<v Speaker 2>weather report from Raff.

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<v Speaker 1>Right Raf. Is that Schoobl's debut. We can ask him

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<v Speaker 1>at four o'clock when he's here.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice, Hey, come on bro, Hey, come on bro.

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<v Speaker 1>We do have four or five Giants. Pregame for the

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<v Speaker 1>Giants and the and the Texas Rangers, game two of

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<v Speaker 1>a three game series. Mackenzie Gore gets to start tonight

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<v Speaker 1>six and nine with a four seven seventy are beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>Blade Tidwell, Blade Tidwell called up. We have a summer

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<v Speaker 1>at sixteen nine in there somewhere anywhere, sixty nine. I

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<v Speaker 1>love it, dude, I love it, Blade Tidwell. Oh n

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<v Speaker 1>O with a three point oh oh e ra. He'll

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<v Speaker 1>get the start tonight for the Giants. Eight away came

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<v Speaker 1>theres a number to call and a text, no Scoobl

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<v Speaker 1>for tomorrow for the Dodgers. For Bumber Dan, Sorry, Danny,

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<v Speaker 1>Bumber Uh let's out. Let's hear some of this sound

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<v Speaker 1>here from Buster Posey. Is this from today, yesterday? Yesterday?

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<v Speaker 2>This was the press conference that happened at three thirty

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<v Speaker 2>of Ya Zoom.

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<v Speaker 1>So we were talking yesterday. Somebody call then called it

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<v Speaker 1>a fire sail, and I was like, I wouldn't go

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<v Speaker 1>quite that far. Fire sale to me is like anything

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<v Speaker 1>everything must go.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think of David Cross and an arrested development.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a fire sail. Tobias, dude, Tobias never knew it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>got there's georts Man, He's never knew great care naked man.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody joins the blue Man group too.

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<v Speaker 2>He blew himself.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the best church on the whole show. In

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, I think so he's by far as Tobias.

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<v Speaker 1>And then and then don't forget his relationship with Carl

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<v Speaker 1>weathers man life. You got stew going, he's like some

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<v Speaker 1>meat on that bone.

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<v Speaker 2>You take Bias, you will blow hard.

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<v Speaker 1>You can get home boiling up. Throw throw some vegetables

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<v Speaker 1>in there. You got your stet stew going. It's pretty good. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>here's Buster Posey. He was asked specifically yesterday if yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>don't take you to Tom's kitchen for a stew update.

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<v Speaker 1>Still put meat on that boat. You take this home,

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:56.440
<v Speaker 1>throw it in the pot at some broth the potato

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<v Speaker 1>you got on my favorite. We did a segment because

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<v Speaker 1>Tom mentioned one time, yeah, I'm going I'm making a

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<v Speaker 1>stew on Friday, and we just checked through with him

0:38:06.120 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 1>throughout the day, how's a stew going? And he that

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<v Speaker 1>it was good and that's Tom. Update have a production team,

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<v Speaker 1>do that, dude, that's so funny. Here's Buster Possy. He

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<v Speaker 1>was asked specifically yesterday, after six trades off of the

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<v Speaker 1>major league roster, would you call this a rebuild? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have a message to the fans? Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 9>I guess you can characterize it with how you want.

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<v Speaker 9>I wouldn't necessarily say a rebuild. I mean, obviously we

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<v Speaker 9>moved some some six major league players off of our

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<v Speaker 9>roster today. I guess the messages we're not satisfied with

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<v Speaker 9>the way that we've played this year in the last

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<v Speaker 9>few years, and we're trying everything we can to to

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<v Speaker 9>continue to build a product that that we can all be, uh,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, excited to come and watch, and and that

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<v Speaker 9>was really the goal. And this is can we even

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<v Speaker 9>if we have to subtract a little bit now, can

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<v Speaker 9>we potentially add some players that we think our fans

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<v Speaker 9>are going to be excited about and hopefully wear a

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<v Speaker 9>Giant's uniform for a long time.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say this organization is allergic to the word rebuild,

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<v Speaker 4>like he doesn't want to say that Larry bar a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of weeks ago, so that. But you know what,

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<v Speaker 4>when you tell fans are doing a rebuild, they get

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<v Speaker 4>turned off. And I you know, we had a guy

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<v Speaker 4>called in just a moment ago saying like, I want

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<v Speaker 4>them to run it back. I like this team that's

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<v Speaker 4>eighteen games below five hundred, and that's just male practice

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<v Speaker 4>a Buster Posey. Yes, it's the right message. It's not

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<v Speaker 4>a fire sale, like there's still a lot of guys

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<v Speaker 4>on this roster still. But at the same time, he's like,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not good enough, and I see value in Elie

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<v Speaker 4>Ramos trading him away now and getting prospects back for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Same thing with aspiring contracts. So it wasn't a.

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<v Speaker 4>Huge rebuild yesterday. No, but there's still could be more

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<v Speaker 4>moves on the horizon. When Buster Posey says, we told

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<v Speaker 4>teams everyone's available right now, so you could see down

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<v Speaker 4>the line with a trade, I'd be surprised if was

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<v Speaker 4>Raphaeld Devers if Rafael Devers was moved later on, But

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't be surprised if will you doomas Matt Chapman

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<v Speaker 4>or Logo Weber moved in time?

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting right enough to we were talking tobias from arrested development.

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<v Speaker 1>We have more of tobias on the trade deadline.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh my god, we're having a fire sale.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, there's more. I myself would not call it

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<v Speaker 1>a rebuild. No, a rebuilt would have been everything must go.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have it would have been not limited to

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<v Speaker 1>players who were expiring or just bullpen arms. Major pivot,

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<v Speaker 1>major pivot. Yeah, no, you salute him, dude, how would

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<v Speaker 1>you describe I wouldn't even I wouldn't even call it

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<v Speaker 1>a major pivot. Again, aren't they going to come into

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<v Speaker 1>next year with like seven dudes who were starting games? So?

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<v Speaker 1>What the hell was yesterday? Then? It was a commitment

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<v Speaker 1>to a new direction or a future plan for the Giants.

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<v Speaker 1>It was using the assets you have to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a future plan, because that's what we said.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, did Buster make clear yesterday that he has

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<v Speaker 1>a long term vision? I think that was a commitment

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<v Speaker 1>to his long term vision and a commitment to organizational

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<v Speaker 1>depth and admitting that there are some things here that

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:49.080
<v Speaker 1>need to be fixed. It's also telling us that go

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<v Speaker 1>into the next year, the bullpen is going to look different,

0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:52.879
<v Speaker 1>telling us the radiation is going to look different. Dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's what yesterday was. Doesn't say a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about this team today, tells you where their focus

0:40:57.719 --> 0:40:59.320
<v Speaker 1>is going to be going into twenty twenty seven, I

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<v Speaker 1>would hope, because you don't have a choice. Now. We

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<v Speaker 1>just watched you not build a bullpen for a year

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<v Speaker 1>with these three big contracts. We just watched you not

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<v Speaker 1>build the rotation for a year with these contracts and

0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:10.800
<v Speaker 1>the guys who were stables here, So what are you

0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:12.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna do for next year? So it's a retooling for

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<v Speaker 1>next season, and it's also a focus on the vision

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<v Speaker 1>for the future. That's how I see it.

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<v Speaker 4>It also could be where the lineup is relatively the same,

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<v Speaker 4>and it could be the same thing a year ago

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<v Speaker 4>from now, where you hope they're better, but Buster says,

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<v Speaker 4>we're below five hundred, it's time to trade.

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<v Speaker 1>Chat to me, rebuild would be a pretty big cleaning

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<v Speaker 1>of house, where like we're like seven of your starters

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<v Speaker 1>next year are different guys. Okay, and you're like and

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:32.160
<v Speaker 1>you're like giving a lot of young guys. Yeah, you

0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:34.239
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, like working, That's that's what a trick.

0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:35.879
<v Speaker 1>Like what did the White Sox do, Like they didn't

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:37.799
<v Speaker 1>have a bunch of contracts that were sitting on they

0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:40.320
<v Speaker 1>like unloaded and said we'll eat it. Whatever. We're focused

0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:42.959
<v Speaker 1>on the young cheap player right now. More from Buster

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<v Speaker 1>here he is on on Logan Web's future with the team.

0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:48.239
<v Speaker 1>So he's under contract through twenty twenty eight. Yes, And

0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:49.520
<v Speaker 1>that's what I mean is like if you were going

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<v Speaker 1>to rebuild, rebuild, you could still hold on the Web

0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:52.840
<v Speaker 1>and trade a bunch of other things. But still I

0:41:53.160 --> 0:41:56.239
<v Speaker 1>do question why he was an absolute hands off type

0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:58.600
<v Speaker 1>of guy when he would have netted you the biggest return.

0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:00.360
<v Speaker 1>And not to say you can't do it next Like

0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:03.480
<v Speaker 1>there's there's reasonablyive his value if he pitches better at

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:05.960
<v Speaker 1>the start of next season, No, WBC would be even

0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:08.239
<v Speaker 1>higher than it is right now. Even though you've got

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:10.520
<v Speaker 1>one lesson around the deal, here's a bust around Logan

0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Web's future with the team.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I mean I don't think it's it's out of

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:17.960
<v Speaker 9>the realm of possibilities at all to think that we

0:42:18.040 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 9>can we can be in contention. And Webby's a guy

0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:24.839
<v Speaker 9>who's been around for a long time. He's a pros pro.

0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:29.359
<v Speaker 9>Had a great conversation with him a couple of weeks

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:34.279
<v Speaker 9>ago and was just really enthused to see his enthusiasm

0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 9>about where he is at this point in his career

0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:41.040
<v Speaker 9>and his understanding. I think of of what it's going

0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:45.800
<v Speaker 9>to take as he's starting to rack up the years

0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:48.880
<v Speaker 9>and the innings to continue to be pitching it an

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:53.000
<v Speaker 9>elite level, And was was just really encouraging just to

0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:56.640
<v Speaker 9>hear I think how excited he was about the way

0:42:56.719 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 9>his body was feeling. Feel like he had not to

0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:02.640
<v Speaker 9>speak for him, but you know, making some changes with's

0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:04.400
<v Speaker 9>the way he's doing some of his work, and just

0:43:04.480 --> 0:43:06.400
<v Speaker 9>felt like his body was in a really good place.

0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 9>And he's He's a guy that I think we all

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:14.440
<v Speaker 9>see as somebody that can can mentor the next wave

0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:17.640
<v Speaker 9>of pitchers that come through San Francisco. And yes, I

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:21.839
<v Speaker 9>do think that, you know, we we feel like there's

0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 9>still a chance, as bad as this year has been

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:26.799
<v Speaker 9>this year, that we can be a team that can

0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:29.440
<v Speaker 9>be in contingent contention and to be in contenent.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta have an ace, and Logan Web is a

0:43:32.320 --> 0:43:34.200
<v Speaker 1>true race. You know, I look at him that way.

0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:36.800
<v Speaker 1>I really do view him in that higher regard or

0:43:36.840 --> 0:43:40.839
<v Speaker 1>hold him in that higher regard. If if you were

0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:43.480
<v Speaker 1>a betting man, would you and I and I offered

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 1>you two wagers right now, would you be more likely

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:50.799
<v Speaker 1>to bet on what's more likely to happen Logan Web

0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:53.279
<v Speaker 1>is at some point traded away from the Giants at

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:57.200
<v Speaker 1>some point in this contract, or he's signed to an extension.

0:43:57.600 --> 0:43:59.440
<v Speaker 1>What would you think is the more likely thing to

0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 1>happen based on everything I mean this is about. This

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:04.520
<v Speaker 1>bet would have to be based also on your belief

0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:07.200
<v Speaker 1>in the organization to change in the next like three years,

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:11.160
<v Speaker 1>because if they're you know, a five hundred team, that shit,

0:44:11.239 --> 0:44:13.319
<v Speaker 1>let's just say they're back to the status quo, right

0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:15.640
<v Speaker 1>back to five hundred. Let's say there's seventy eight and

0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:17.640
<v Speaker 1>eighty three, whatever the hell it is, like they're right

0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 1>back around five hundred. Okay, Like, is that a team

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:24.080
<v Speaker 1>that you'd want to offer an extension to a player for? No,

0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:26.719
<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't. You should probably trade away Logo Web in

0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:28.359
<v Speaker 1>that situation. If it's two years from now and you're

0:44:28.360 --> 0:44:30.440
<v Speaker 1>on the same thing again. Like that's where I'm like,

0:44:30.520 --> 0:44:32.560
<v Speaker 1>when do you start thinking the extension? So back to

0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 1>that question, what's more likely to happen and what's more likely?

0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:36.520
<v Speaker 1>What do you think if you could bet on one,

0:44:36.560 --> 0:44:37.879
<v Speaker 1>what do you think is going to pay you out

0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:39.760
<v Speaker 1>he signs the extension or he's traded.

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<v Speaker 4>Signs the extension. Because I think Buster your Posey values pitching.

0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:44.799
<v Speaker 4>I TH's a whole hell of a lot and if

0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:46.759
<v Speaker 4>it's going to be an effusion of youth when it

0:44:46.800 --> 0:44:48.880
<v Speaker 4>comes to pitching, he wants an as I know.

0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:51.240
<v Speaker 1>The irony of this year alone. But yes, I agree

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 1>with you, and yet it's ironic how they went about it.

0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:55.600
<v Speaker 4>No, I mean, do you agree with Andy Begley where

0:44:55.640 --> 0:44:57.400
<v Speaker 4>he says if you trade a logo Web at the

0:44:57.400 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 4>trade deadline yesterday that you could have got more in

0:44:59.160 --> 0:45:00.799
<v Speaker 4>return than what they're school went for him.

0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:02.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because he's a free agent and Web you have

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:04.120
<v Speaker 1>two more hears left exactly.

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:08.040
<v Speaker 4>So you know, Buster Posey probably saw a lot of

0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:10.279
<v Speaker 4>offers and thought it wasn't worth it, but maybe comes

0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:12.239
<v Speaker 4>back to them in the offseason. But now, if i'd

0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:14.719
<v Speaker 4>a bet, I think that, yes, he could trid away

0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 4>a lot of other guys on this team. I think

0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:18.160
<v Speaker 4>he wants Logo Web here for the long haul, regardless

0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:18.879
<v Speaker 4>of how this team before.

0:45:18.880 --> 0:45:22.080
<v Speaker 1>He's talking mentor yeah that made that. That's a guy

0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:23.839
<v Speaker 1>that they're like, this guy could be a giant for life.

0:45:23.880 --> 0:45:23.960
<v Speaker 6>Now.

0:45:24.000 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if that's the best business move, but

0:45:27.120 --> 0:45:29.919
<v Speaker 4>Buster Posey knows good pitching and he values logo Web.

0:45:30.080 --> 0:45:31.920
<v Speaker 4>So despite what we may say on the radio, I

0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:33.399
<v Speaker 4>think the Logo Web's gonna be here for a while.

0:45:33.920 --> 0:45:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Here's more from Buster Posey yesterday on Devers, Chapman, and

0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Domas on holding on to those guys and less of

0:45:39.040 --> 0:45:40.640
<v Speaker 1>holding out of those guys and more of like, yeah,

0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:42.840
<v Speaker 1>nobody would pay for me. Here's here's Buster on the

0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:44.000
<v Speaker 1>three big contracts. Yeah.

0:45:44.560 --> 0:45:46.160
<v Speaker 9>I think what I'll say is like we made we

0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:49.160
<v Speaker 9>made it known to teams that we were really willing

0:45:49.320 --> 0:45:54.919
<v Speaker 9>to talk about any player. And you know, I don't

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:56.400
<v Speaker 9>think it does any good to say one way or

0:45:56.400 --> 0:46:00.319
<v Speaker 9>another for us. We're still excited that we've got those

0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:04.240
<v Speaker 9>big three guys, the Devers. You know that we have Devers, Chapman,

0:46:04.320 --> 0:46:07.000
<v Speaker 9>the Damas on the team and still feel like there's

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:09.600
<v Speaker 9>a lot of great baseball left for those guys to play,

0:46:09.719 --> 0:46:13.040
<v Speaker 9>and you know glad that they're going to be San

0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:14.000
<v Speaker 9>Francisco Giants.

0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:15.799
<v Speaker 4>That's the best way to respond to that, because they're

0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:17.480
<v Speaker 4>still on your roster. You don't make it seem like, yeah,

0:46:17.480 --> 0:46:19.600
<v Speaker 4>we were closed to deal in them, but damn they're

0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:22.200
<v Speaker 4>still here. I think that he doesn't want to trade

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:25.640
<v Speaker 4>Raffaeld Devers, not like, no, I'm not not to say

0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:27.880
<v Speaker 4>like Buster's like I can't move him after I made

0:46:27.880 --> 0:46:29.040
<v Speaker 4>a big deal for him last year.

0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:31.120
<v Speaker 2>No, I think that he wants him on this team

0:46:31.120 --> 0:46:33.840
<v Speaker 2>because he's still found it hit. He's close. What does

0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:35.440
<v Speaker 2>he have right now, like twenty home runs? So he's

0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:36.440
<v Speaker 2>still gonna hit thirty home runs.

0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:37.399
<v Speaker 1>He's twenty two or something.

0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:40.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So I think that you see the record, and

0:46:40.480 --> 0:46:43.279
<v Speaker 4>obviously it's been inconsistent at times, but I think that

0:46:43.400 --> 0:46:45.040
<v Speaker 4>Buster wants to hang on to Raffaeld Devers.

0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:48.160
<v Speaker 2>Will you adamis different story. They're loading up on shortstops.

0:46:48.160 --> 0:46:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that's part of also why the Marcelo

0:46:50.160 --> 0:46:52.279
<v Speaker 1>Minor trade happens yesterday. One. I think it's a it's

0:46:52.320 --> 0:46:54.480
<v Speaker 1>an high upside player and you bought low and I'm

0:46:54.520 --> 0:46:55.800
<v Speaker 1>down to buy the dip on a player like that

0:46:55.920 --> 0:46:57.360
<v Speaker 1>for a bullpen arm and I know they give up

0:46:57.360 --> 0:46:59.200
<v Speaker 1>a minor league doubtfielder as well. People are like, I

0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:01.239
<v Speaker 1>can't believe they give a I forget your guy's name,

0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Carlos Good Heroes maybe or something like that, a single

0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:05.719
<v Speaker 1>A player out of the Emeralds, And I was like,

0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:09.239
<v Speaker 1>we're not wanting to make deals for a reliever, and

0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:11.200
<v Speaker 1>a single A player for a dude he's with a

0:47:11.239 --> 0:47:13.719
<v Speaker 1>top one hundred prospect for the last five years. I'm like,

0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm okay with this. I also think it's given the

0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Giants an out and versatility if they get to the

0:47:18.480 --> 0:47:21.359
<v Speaker 1>offseason and there's somebody who doesn't have a shortstop because

0:47:21.360 --> 0:47:23.880
<v Speaker 1>they're an expired contract or they're not going to sign somebody,

0:47:23.960 --> 0:47:26.800
<v Speaker 1>and Willie Thomas becomes more attractive because it's not just

0:47:26.840 --> 0:47:28.440
<v Speaker 1>about a team that needs a shortstop. It's about a

0:47:28.480 --> 0:47:31.839
<v Speaker 1>team that goes, hey, maybe we've lost a left field

0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:33.840
<v Speaker 1>power bat and we need to add some of that

0:47:33.920 --> 0:47:35.520
<v Speaker 1>power back. We can get that somewhere else. I'm not

0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:36.880
<v Speaker 1>saying that this is going to be a great move

0:47:36.920 --> 0:47:38.960
<v Speaker 1>for anybody, but if the move is for somebody else

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:41.759
<v Speaker 1>who's looking for a player with a less money on

0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:44.160
<v Speaker 1>the deal now, and we're heading into potentially a lockout

0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:47.080
<v Speaker 1>where unfortunately you would save money on that deal instead

0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:49.480
<v Speaker 1>of going out in free agency. Maybe there's something to

0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:51.520
<v Speaker 1>be had there, but it leaves the door open and

0:47:51.560 --> 0:47:53.920
<v Speaker 1>the giants that aren't at a loss at shortstop completely

0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:55.000
<v Speaker 1>like they would have been.

0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:58.240
<v Speaker 4>And I think that he fielded calls on Matt Chapman

0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:00.840
<v Speaker 4>and wanted takers, and I was like, Matt Chapman's not

0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:02.120
<v Speaker 4>even close to returning at this point.

0:48:02.160 --> 0:48:03.200
<v Speaker 2>He's guys, see a specialist.

0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:06.719
<v Speaker 4>He got an MRI today, So as Alex Pavlovich tweets out,

0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:09.120
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't sound like we'll see Matt Chapman for a

0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:10.600
<v Speaker 4>little bit of time here, and we haven't seen him

0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:12.840
<v Speaker 4>since June. But yeah, I think I think that Buster

0:48:12.960 --> 0:48:14.799
<v Speaker 4>probably made some calls on him as well, and that's

0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:16.360
<v Speaker 4>easier and said than done because he's got the no

0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:17.799
<v Speaker 4>trade clause as well.

0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:19.640
<v Speaker 2>Real Quick saw this.

0:48:19.719 --> 0:48:22.319
<v Speaker 4>On Friday during the MLB Network or sorry, not MLB Network,

0:48:22.360 --> 0:48:25.360
<v Speaker 4>the Apple TV broadcast. You surprised it all with what

0:48:25.440 --> 0:48:28.120
<v Speaker 4>went down with the report with Willia Domas and him

0:48:28.160 --> 0:48:30.520
<v Speaker 4>being kind of hesitant to do some infield work with

0:48:30.640 --> 0:48:32.280
<v Speaker 4>Ron Washington, or you guys think.

0:48:32.120 --> 0:48:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Pretty highly of me if you think I'm watching an

0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Apple TV game on a Friday night stones on, you

0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:38.600
<v Speaker 1>guys think that's where I'm spent in my time for

0:48:38.680 --> 0:48:41.000
<v Speaker 1>a team. It's eighteen under not acting like I saw it,

0:48:41.040 --> 0:48:43.160
<v Speaker 1>but I heard about it all the clips of it afterwards,

0:48:43.200 --> 0:48:45.200
<v Speaker 1>and I also know the reporting from Susan Seluster. It

0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:47.000
<v Speaker 1>made me think. We had a call last week where

0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:49.799
<v Speaker 1>somebody said, why isn't somebody called and said this test

0:48:49.840 --> 0:48:52.160
<v Speaker 1>on like Thursday of last week, Why isn't a damas

0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:56.239
<v Speaker 1>working with with Ron Washington. Yeah, I was like, I think,

0:48:56.280 --> 0:48:58.879
<v Speaker 1>I said exactly, I don't know what guys are doing. Yeah,

0:48:59.600 --> 0:49:01.160
<v Speaker 1>and after games, I know we get a lot of

0:49:01.239 --> 0:49:02.440
<v Speaker 1>video of whan I said is we got a lot

0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:03.840
<v Speaker 1>of video Eldridge doing it. We get a lot of

0:49:03.920 --> 0:49:05.520
<v Speaker 1>video of you know Dev' has been out there, We

0:49:05.600 --> 0:49:08.040
<v Speaker 1>get a lot of video of Luisa Rise and stuff.

0:49:08.040 --> 0:49:09.919
<v Speaker 1>But I said, I can't speak to like how every

0:49:10.040 --> 0:49:13.080
<v Speaker 1>day's practice and routine work has been going. And that

0:49:13.200 --> 0:49:15.960
<v Speaker 1>was reported as like, oh, Ron Washington's not doesn't like

0:49:16.040 --> 0:49:17.759
<v Speaker 1>that He's not spending time with him, or there was

0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:19.480
<v Speaker 1>some it was weird the way it was phrase that

0:49:19.520 --> 0:49:20.160
<v Speaker 1>the video clip I.

0:49:20.200 --> 0:49:22.160
<v Speaker 2>Can't remember see that it was going along those lines.

0:49:22.320 --> 0:49:24.960
<v Speaker 1>And also Susan Selester reported like there was a bigger

0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:26.480
<v Speaker 1>story on this, And I talked to both of them

0:49:26.520 --> 0:49:28.080
<v Speaker 1>about this in the last two weeks.

0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:29.520
<v Speaker 4>Right like two weeks ago. She said it's more of

0:49:29.520 --> 0:49:31.440
<v Speaker 4>a back issue for William down He's been dealing with it.

0:49:31.600 --> 0:49:33.440
<v Speaker 4>They said about for him to be out there, I

0:49:33.480 --> 0:49:35.400
<v Speaker 4>would say that if you don't get along with Ron Washington,

0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:36.120
<v Speaker 4>something's wrong with you.

0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:37.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to even I don't even think that's

0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:39.480
<v Speaker 1>totally what they were saying, right, I mean that's what

0:49:39.520 --> 0:49:41.040
<v Speaker 1>they were saying. I don't think that's totally to be

0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:42.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's the.

0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:45.080
<v Speaker 4>Correction of it, all right. Yeah, and Tony Vttil came

0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:46.880
<v Speaker 4>out the next day and said the whole reports bs.

0:49:47.000 --> 0:49:48.000
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know.

0:49:48.200 --> 0:49:49.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna put a whole lot stock into that,

0:49:49.760 --> 0:49:51.440
<v Speaker 4>but I do think they wanted to trade William Dominson

0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:52.439
<v Speaker 4>the deadline if they could.

0:49:53.320 --> 0:49:55.759
<v Speaker 1>They're watch an Apple TV game, Kennedy get it an

0:49:55.760 --> 0:49:57.200
<v Speaker 1>on a bar, you know what I mean. I gotta

0:49:57.239 --> 0:49:58.520
<v Speaker 1>go hog. Sorry, guys, gotta get it home to a

0:49:58.560 --> 0:50:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Friday night, I gotta watch the Apple TV game. I

0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:04.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I mean, it's brutal. Apple TV game is brutal. Nobody.

0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:06.400
<v Speaker 1>There's not a I don't think there's a baseball fan

0:50:06.480 --> 0:50:08.239
<v Speaker 1>that l likes it. No, not at all. And they're like,

0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:10.200
<v Speaker 1>well we're doing it, like no again, nobody doing it

0:50:10.239 --> 0:50:12.400
<v Speaker 1>for the people. Nobody's flipping around looking at their at

0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:15.080
<v Speaker 1>the Apple TV shows that nobody watches on a on

0:50:15.160 --> 0:50:17.680
<v Speaker 1>a Friday, and it's like, I'll do the The Giants

0:50:17.719 --> 0:50:19.120
<v Speaker 1>are taking on the dres Well.

0:50:19.120 --> 0:50:20.560
<v Speaker 4>I was kind of surprised last night. I was like, oh,

0:50:20.600 --> 0:50:22.360
<v Speaker 4>this game's on ESPN. I thought he's being as a

0:50:22.400 --> 0:50:24.360
<v Speaker 4>due baseball anymore. Now they do, remember, because Ravits is

0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:27.840
<v Speaker 4>still doing I feel bad for I mean, good on

0:50:27.920 --> 0:50:30.120
<v Speaker 4>him to still do those, you know, those games he's could.

0:50:29.920 --> 0:50:31.240
<v Speaker 2>Call the Little League World Series.

0:50:31.320 --> 0:50:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Saw my schedule. He's like I was planning on being here.

0:50:33.800 --> 0:50:35.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but like to have that news come out like

0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:37.080
<v Speaker 4>he's gonna get laid off and he's still you know,

0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:38.040
<v Speaker 4>doing his duty.

0:50:38.080 --> 0:50:39.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and like the reports are all like he

0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:41.000
<v Speaker 1>will still be laid off. But he's going to keep

0:50:41.040 --> 0:50:43.160
<v Speaker 1>doing these through a certain date or whatever. I mean, good,

0:50:43.160 --> 0:50:44.520
<v Speaker 1>I think to some of those reports and news, but

0:50:44.600 --> 0:50:46.560
<v Speaker 1>it came out a little prematurely pro before they were

0:50:46.560 --> 0:50:48.319
<v Speaker 1>going to report that. But you know me, dude, I'm

0:50:48.320 --> 0:50:50.440
<v Speaker 1>just trying to get back to the movies, spending my

0:50:50.480 --> 0:50:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Friday nights and my my weekends. Why I saw the invite?

0:50:54.960 --> 0:50:57.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh so the invite and then which I takes place

0:50:57.320 --> 0:50:58.520
<v Speaker 1>in San Francisco. Awesome movie.

0:50:58.520 --> 0:51:00.960
<v Speaker 2>You know I wasn't invited to see the Invite with you, No,

0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:02.040
<v Speaker 2>it was It's not.

0:51:02.080 --> 0:51:04.160
<v Speaker 1>What I would have brought you to. Okay, you can.

0:51:04.400 --> 0:51:06.680
<v Speaker 1>You can hang out with me when you start picking

0:51:06.760 --> 0:51:09.200
<v Speaker 1>better memories that you have of us spending time together.

0:51:09.880 --> 0:51:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I have fond memory was going to Bill Burr. Yeah,

0:51:12.480 --> 0:51:14.640
<v Speaker 1>my favorite day with you was a day on the

0:51:14.680 --> 0:51:15.600
<v Speaker 1>show with an interview.

0:51:16.239 --> 0:51:18.759
<v Speaker 4>So my favorite day with you this is when you

0:51:18.960 --> 0:51:22.000
<v Speaker 4>went was was when you stayed quiet during the Jerry Rice,

0:51:22.000 --> 0:51:22.680
<v Speaker 4>Steve Young.

0:51:22.520 --> 0:51:25.239
<v Speaker 1>And Tim Danny did the newly Weed game with us.

0:51:25.239 --> 0:51:27.400
<v Speaker 1>And he was like, what's your favorite like memory together?

0:51:27.440 --> 0:51:29.160
<v Speaker 1>And I picked that day where Derek and I went

0:51:29.239 --> 0:51:31.160
<v Speaker 1>to see a baller's game last year. I was like dude.

0:51:31.160 --> 0:51:33.080
<v Speaker 1>We went over at Berkeley. We got some pizza, hung out,

0:51:33.120 --> 0:51:34.920
<v Speaker 1>walked up to the through the campus, went and saw

0:51:34.960 --> 0:51:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Bill Burr at at the Greek Theater and Derek put

0:51:38.000 --> 0:51:40.640
<v Speaker 1>down that interview we did with Steve Young, Jerry Rice,

0:51:40.680 --> 0:51:41.160
<v Speaker 1>and Tim Brown.

0:51:41.360 --> 0:51:42.239
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was the show.

0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Your favorite memory of me is one time when I

0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:46.760
<v Speaker 1>was sitting here silently next to you while we listened

0:51:46.800 --> 0:51:48.719
<v Speaker 1>to Hall of Famers joking. I remember that time you

0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:51.560
<v Speaker 1>added nothing. That's one of my favorite moments with Tim too. Actually,

0:51:51.560 --> 0:51:53.600
<v Speaker 1>it's my favorite memory of me and Tim that at

0:51:53.640 --> 0:51:55.040
<v Speaker 1>the time that Tim had to sleep on that fold

0:51:55.040 --> 0:51:57.879
<v Speaker 1>out bed that we stayed in there that same room.

0:51:58.080 --> 0:51:59.880
<v Speaker 3>That was a bonding weekend, And personally I thought it

0:51:59.920 --> 0:52:01.440
<v Speaker 3>was the time where I almost that drove off the

0:52:01.520 --> 0:52:03.080
<v Speaker 3>road in the rain storm, and you're like, well.

0:52:03.320 --> 0:52:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I'll see when we get there. I did see the invite.

0:52:06.120 --> 0:52:07.440
<v Speaker 1>I did see Spider Man, dude. I was actually on

0:52:07.520 --> 0:52:09.680
<v Speaker 1>my way back on the bus from Spider Man and

0:52:10.760 --> 0:52:12.120
<v Speaker 1>this dude was reading my book. You know, like on

0:52:12.160 --> 0:52:13.960
<v Speaker 1>the bus where you're sitting on a bench seat and

0:52:14.080 --> 0:52:15.719
<v Speaker 1>like facing one direction, but the other guy's in a

0:52:15.760 --> 0:52:18.320
<v Speaker 1>single seat facing forward. Younger dude gets on and he

0:52:18.400 --> 0:52:20.040
<v Speaker 1>was like sitting across from me. He had dreads too,

0:52:20.480 --> 0:52:22.520
<v Speaker 1>and we like hit a stop where I was just like,

0:52:22.560 --> 0:52:23.800
<v Speaker 1>it's one of those things where I looked at for

0:52:23.880 --> 0:52:25.680
<v Speaker 1>my book just to like look around to see like, oh,

0:52:25.719 --> 0:52:28.040
<v Speaker 1>where are we on the bus? As I like looked

0:52:28.120 --> 0:52:29.799
<v Speaker 1>back towards the guy, we kind of like locked eyes

0:52:29.800 --> 0:52:32.319
<v Speaker 1>for up, not even locked eys. We's like past eyes

0:52:32.360 --> 0:52:33.719
<v Speaker 1>for like half a second. I went back to my

0:52:33.760 --> 0:52:35.759
<v Speaker 1>book and I've had funds in but I'm not listening

0:52:35.760 --> 0:52:38.000
<v Speaker 1>to anything. And the guy goes, hey, man, where are

0:52:38.040 --> 0:52:40.399
<v Speaker 1>you going? And I was like, oh man. I tried

0:52:40.440 --> 0:52:41.480
<v Speaker 1>to ignore it, and then he goes geat. He's like,

0:52:41.480 --> 0:52:43.239
<v Speaker 1>where are you going? He said, O man, And yeah,

0:52:43.280 --> 0:52:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I look up and he goes, oh man, I look

0:52:45.120 --> 0:52:47.440
<v Speaker 1>up and I was like, I saw him going home.

0:52:47.680 --> 0:52:49.759
<v Speaker 1>And he goes on a Saturday. Man, it was like

0:52:49.840 --> 0:52:52.719
<v Speaker 1>five o'clock. He was on a Saturday. I was like, yeah, man,

0:52:52.719 --> 0:52:53.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm just going home. And he's like, man, I'm trying

0:52:53.880 --> 0:52:55.200
<v Speaker 1>to get to be like you. Man, I gotta get

0:52:55.200 --> 0:52:56.520
<v Speaker 1>to I gotta get to be like you.

0:52:56.680 --> 0:52:56.879
<v Speaker 5>Man.

0:52:57.239 --> 0:52:59.280
<v Speaker 1>I was like, all right, okay, well, just being comfortable

0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:01.959
<v Speaker 1>going Yeah, and I put my head back in my book.

0:53:02.200 --> 0:53:04.040
<v Speaker 1>And then he pauses for a minute. This is where

0:53:04.040 --> 0:53:06.000
<v Speaker 1>he got awkward. He goes, I just thought we let

0:53:06.080 --> 0:53:07.279
<v Speaker 1>we like looked at each other, so I thought you

0:53:07.360 --> 0:53:08.640
<v Speaker 1>were trying to like talk to it. We looked, we

0:53:08.719 --> 0:53:10.160
<v Speaker 1>locked eyes from it, so I thought you were trying

0:53:10.200 --> 0:53:11.800
<v Speaker 1>to try to talk to me. And I was like,

0:53:12.680 --> 0:53:14.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what did you think was going on?

0:53:14.160 --> 0:53:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you think I'm trying to do.

0:53:15.680 --> 0:53:17.080
<v Speaker 1>By the way, I look at this guy now dead

0:53:17.080 --> 0:53:19.879
<v Speaker 1>in the eyes, he's got it's in his hair, it's

0:53:19.880 --> 0:53:22.439
<v Speaker 1>in his dreads, and it's all over his forehead Cheeto dust.

0:53:22.520 --> 0:53:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Bro like fingers of Cheeto dust on his face, on

0:53:26.640 --> 0:53:28.480
<v Speaker 1>his forehead and in his hair. And that didn't win

0:53:28.520 --> 0:53:30.319
<v Speaker 1>you overcoach No. And then I was like, yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, oh, I just thought you were trying to

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were trying to say something to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this guy's just died in a conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>So then he realizes I'm not having it. He gets

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<v Speaker 1>up and he watched the front of the bus bever Lis.

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<v Speaker 1>When he got up, Dude, he left it there covered

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<v Speaker 1>in cheeto finger dust.

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<v Speaker 4>Dude, A big old bus guy James, but a big

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<v Speaker 4>old potatoes sat look at them.

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<v Speaker 1>It had it looked like it was an acronym, but

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't. It was like cheeto dusting figure. He actually

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<v Speaker 1>wrote NBA in Cheeto dust and it said grab back.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he left it right there? Doesn't exists. He must

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<v Speaker 1>have thought. That's why I was trying to have a conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, you, did you want your cheeto dust bag?

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<v Speaker 1>Sharon af Dude, there it was sitting on the bus.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you and I sure to moment on the eight,

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<v Speaker 1>cruising back towards the North Beach. Dude from MOSCOWY or

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<v Speaker 1>from from the Metreon. Anyway, we do it each and

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<v Speaker 1>every week, a big old potato sacked looking thing. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it's got Cheeto dust on it. We call it the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA grab bag, and we do it next on the

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Leader