Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the
Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3: And now, here's Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 4: Lindsay Clancy broke down in tears as her defense attorney
Speaker 4: began closing arguments, comparing photos before and after the killing.
Speaker 4: After six weeks of dueling medical experts, jurors will now
Speaker 4: have to decide whether Clancy was sane and acted intentionally.
Speaker 5: Man, what a tough job that would be in a jury.
Speaker 5: They're deliberating right now. This is just breaking. The jury
Speaker 5: is asked to see two bags of pills. and a knife.
Speaker 5: I don't know what role the knife plays. I've been
Speaker 5: following it that closely. What'd she do with a knife?
Speaker 3: Not familiar. Um, Oh, she cut herself, uh, before she
Speaker 3: hurled herself out of the window. The defendant is Clancy.
Speaker 5: Oh, you know, this is, this is probably an argument
Speaker 5: for her being crazy. Uh, who kills themselves by jumping
Speaker 5: out of two story window.
Speaker 3: Of a suburban house? Yeah. What, what, I'm going to
Speaker 3: cut myself some and jump out of a window, but
Speaker 3: just the second story. I mean, that's, which is almost,
Speaker 3: I don't mean to be, you know, flip about this
Speaker 3: or an idiot, but that's a weak attempt.
Speaker 5: Oh no kidding. Who would jump out of two story
Speaker 5: window and think I'm going to break my, my legs
Speaker 5: or my arm or whatever. I'm not going to die.
Speaker 5: I'm going to lay there in pain until somebody comes
Speaker 5: and takes me to the hospital.
Speaker 3: It's actually fairly unlikely you'd end up partially paralyzed.
Speaker 5: Like she did. She got a really bad result from
Speaker 5: that really weak effort at killing herself. So, I don't know.
Speaker 5: That seems like a decent argument toward her being crazy.
Speaker 3: That seems like a decent argument to me, like she
Speaker 3: was faking a suicide attempt.
Speaker 5: Oh, really?
Speaker 3: Interesting.
Speaker 5: God dang it. You're committed to faking your suicide to
Speaker 5: jump out a second story window.
Speaker 6: Ah.
Speaker 3: Put a couple of light cuts on me and then
Speaker 3: jump out this window into the hedges and it'll be fine.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I wasn't there.
Speaker 5: Let's hear a little bit from yesterday before they gave
Speaker 5: it to the jury from the defense and the prosecution
Speaker 5: in their closing arguments. Here's the defense first.
Speaker 7: Because of the damn medicine and the lousy medical care
Speaker 7: that she got.
Speaker 5: Horrible thoughts, no motivation, deeply depressed.
Speaker 7: This is a prosecution that has ripped the soul out
Speaker 7: of this girl forever.
Speaker 5: Well, here's the prosecution.
Speaker 8: This wasn't a woman suffering from a lack of care,
Speaker 8: a lack of resources. She had an abundance of help,
Speaker 8: an abundance of care. She left them discarded on the
Speaker 8: basement floor like broken toys because she was done playing
Speaker 8: the game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the kids. I heard that whole clip. It is
Speaker 5: hard to take. The prosecution argued that Clancy only had
Speaker 5: two prescription meds in her system at the time of
Speaker 5: the murders. Is that to argue that she wasn't all
Speaker 5: drugged up, so she's responsible? I don't know what that was.
Speaker 5: There is some argument that because she had a lot
Speaker 5: of doctors and a lot of different medicines, so you
Speaker 5: can't claim she didn't get care. I can tell you
Speaker 5: from dealing with people with mental health problems, just because
Speaker 5: you got a doctor and got the pills don't mean
Speaker 5: you're okay, because they often don't have it figured out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's interesting. The prosecutor making the argument that
Speaker 3: because she had an abundance of help, therefore clearly she
Speaker 3: killed them. I'm not sure I get... Of course, I
Speaker 3: didn't hear the whole argument. I'm a bad talk show host,
Speaker 3: but I hesitate to leap to conclusions based on fragmentary information.
Speaker 3: If your argument was she wasn't really overwhelmed in the
Speaker 3: conventional sense... A person could respond, well, she must have
Speaker 3: just gone nuts then.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: First of all, the jury gets to work tomorrow. Not
Speaker 5: in all states is that true. But in this case,
Speaker 5: they will deliberate on Saturday or they can deliberate on Saturday.
Speaker 5: So that might happen. So they might not be feeling
Speaker 5: the normal pressure on a Friday to wrap this thing
Speaker 5: up that juries have sometimes. That's all just speculation. Since
Speaker 5: you have been on juries, it seems to me. looking
Speaker 5: at this, that this could, there'd be a lot more
Speaker 5: speculation on this one in a jury than a lot
Speaker 5: of cases, wouldn't there? I mean, because in some cases,
Speaker 5: it's just a, it's, you know, there's some clear-cut evidence,
Speaker 5: and if you throw in a, yeah, but his sister
Speaker 5: was so upset, well, what's that got to do with anything?
Speaker 5: You got a knife, you got a blah, blah, blah,
Speaker 5: you got a blah, blah, blah. This one, though, it's
Speaker 5: so getting in at somebody's head.
Speaker 3: Right. You practically read my mind because I was thinking
Speaker 3: in a lot of criminal cases, the question is, was
Speaker 3: it him and did they prove it beyond a reasonable
Speaker 3: doubt that, okay, yeah, that was his knife. And yes,
Speaker 3: look at his car there on the flock camera, which
Speaker 3: we're yelling about, or whatever. Yeah, it's beyond a reasonable doubt.
Speaker 3: But in this one, when you're trying to figure out
Speaker 3: criminal culpability and mental health and contemplating a crime this horrible,
Speaker 3: I mean, there are You know, there are hard facts,
Speaker 3: and then there are judgments you have to make. And
Speaker 3: this one is judgment piled on judgment. And you've got
Speaker 3: 12 people of varying intellects and abilities to understand or
Speaker 3: think logically or bringing in whatever prejudices they have or whatever.
Speaker 3: Trying to form something that mushy into a conclusion is
Speaker 3: not going to be easy. It's going to be extremely difficult. Although, again...
Speaker 3: I wasn't there for the whole thing. And it could
Speaker 3: be they have a much more solid take on this
Speaker 3: than I would guess from a distance.
Speaker 5: Well, it hasn't gone the direction of the most famous
Speaker 5: trial that people are comparing it to is Susan Smith
Speaker 5: back in the 90s when she strapped her kids in
Speaker 5: the car and rolled them in the lake, which was
Speaker 5: just absolutely horrific and really got America's attention. Of course,
Speaker 5: we were a different culture back then. We weren't as
Speaker 5: touchy feely. Let's come up with a way to explain
Speaker 5: away how difficult it is to be a parent. That
Speaker 5: sort of thing.
Speaker 3: And we're all super into whatever mental challenges we have,
Speaker 3: mental illness. Mental health was a term that wasn't thrown
Speaker 3: around a lot.
Speaker 5: That jury deliberated for like an hour and 10 minutes
Speaker 5: and said, yeah, whatever. And she's still in prison as
Speaker 5: a murderer. This jury obviously didn't do that because they
Speaker 5: deliberated for a while yesterday and they're still at it today.
Speaker 5: Completely different case with different evidence. And I don't remember
Speaker 5: Susan Smith's defense. They were they were trying to argue
Speaker 5: that she was crazy. It wasn't the too tough to
Speaker 5: be a mom postpartum psychosis, but it was the she
Speaker 5: is not. She wasn't.
Speaker 3: Capable of those. Those are two very different things, by
Speaker 3: the way. It's too tough to be a mom and
Speaker 3: postpartum psychosis. But sure. Yeah, I don't remember. Anyway. All right. Well,
Speaker 3: we'll let the jury decide. That's the system we have,
Speaker 3: and it's a good one.
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Speaker 5: You know, I was thinking about yesterday when I was
Speaker 5: out fixing a broken pipe out in the orchard. that
Speaker 5: was leaking everywhere in the hot sun and everything like that. I...
Speaker 5: First of all, I get great enjoyment out of doing
Speaker 5: that sort of stuff, and I so much prefer that
Speaker 5: task to... a stack of paperwork where I got to
Speaker 5: go to a website and log in and try to
Speaker 5: figure out how to make a payment and it won't
Speaker 5: let me in. And I know people who love that.
Speaker 5: I know several people, a couple of them I've hired
Speaker 5: as assistants recently to do because they just love that challenge.
Speaker 5: To me, it is hell on earth where other people
Speaker 5: wouldn't want to be out in the hot sun knee
Speaker 5: deep in the water fixing a PVC pipe. So I
Speaker 5: guess it's just the way you built.
Speaker 4: Sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Oh, they all love that stack of paperwork. I just
Speaker 5: love to tear into that and get that done. I
Speaker 5: can't imagine that any more than I can imagine. I
Speaker 5: don't know.
Speaker 3: I look at people like that, like they're a tribe
Speaker 3: in Africa with plates in their lips. I just don't
Speaker 3: get it.
Speaker 5: Right. Thank God you exist. Joe apparently knows more about
Speaker 5: this than I do, because I... I don't know anything
Speaker 5: about it, really. I've heard of cloud seeding. I knew
Speaker 5: it was an idea back in the day. I didn't
Speaker 5: know it was happening that much. It's really working, according
Speaker 5: to the free press, and a lot of tech people
Speaker 5: are controlling the weather. Do you remember when Bill Gates
Speaker 5: got a lot of attention for saying something or other
Speaker 5: about controlling the weather and how important it ought to be?
Speaker 5: And I know people who think Bill Gates is controlling
Speaker 5: the weather today. The founder of Rainmaker... big company that's
Speaker 5: doing a lot of this out there right now and
Speaker 5: has been for quite a while. Uh, The guy that
Speaker 5: founded it was a Thiel fellow, Peter Thiel, who is
Speaker 5: controversial in the world that follows that sort of stuff.
Speaker 5: He's a PayPal guy, kind of wacky in all kinds
Speaker 5: of different directions. So that adds to the point of
Speaker 5: the free press is this has got all the makings
Speaker 5: of great conspiracy stuff. You got a Peter Thiel guy.
Speaker 5: You got cloud seeding. You got the strongest El Nino
Speaker 5: in living memory seems to be developing right now and
Speaker 5: is going to be in the news for weeks now.
Speaker 5: And you got everything you need for a great conspiracy thing.
Speaker 5: And then your point that there's no getting around this,
Speaker 5: is there? If you seed the clouds, the clouds rained
Speaker 5: where they weren't going to rain. And so they don't
Speaker 5: have the rain in them to rain over there.
Speaker 3: There's just no getting around that math, is there? Yeah,
Speaker 3: even a child can understand this. But I didn't till
Speaker 3: somebody pointed it out, especially in places that are desperate
Speaker 3: for rain. Well, let's start here. Wars are fought over
Speaker 3: resources all the time, all the time since the dawn
Speaker 3: of man. Various, you know, the wars are quasi wars
Speaker 3: or economic wars. Water is one of the most precious
Speaker 3: resources on the planet, depending on where you are. And
Speaker 3: in parts of Africa, for instance, where the rain cloud
Speaker 3: forms over here, it floats over this country, then rains
Speaker 3: on that country. That country can feed its people. The
Speaker 3: first country that the clouds floated over, they can't.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 3: Okay. So country A decides, yeah, let's see the clouds
Speaker 3: and take the rain. And they take the rain. Now,
Speaker 3: it used to be you got to wait till rain
Speaker 3: falls before you can be snatching water. But now we
Speaker 3: can do it from the sky. So it's just it's,
Speaker 3: you know, depending on your point of view, either resource theft.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute. You're draining the river before it gets
Speaker 3: to me. Or it's just, you know, hey, tough luck.
Speaker 5: Isn't it just like tapping into your oil field on
Speaker 5: the other side of the boundary? I drink your milkshake.
Speaker 5: It's that, isn't it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly what it is. And people tend to
Speaker 3: get pissed.
Speaker 5: Wow, that'll become an issue. There's going to have to
Speaker 5: be some sort of laws.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know enough about weather patterns to know
Speaker 3: whether this is going to apply to the U.S. at all.
Speaker 3: And again, this is a big news story right now.
Speaker 3: It's floating below most radars. But the whole Colorado River story.
Speaker 3: And the way the Western United States gets its water,
Speaker 3: including Southern California, Arizona, etc., it's going to be an
Speaker 3: enormous story in the next few years. Unless we have
Speaker 3: torrential rains fall in the Western United States for like
Speaker 3: the next decade. And then this stuff is going to
Speaker 3: get real, as the kids used to say a while back.
Speaker 5: Got some updates on a couple of the political races
Speaker 5: out there that are not good news if you're a
Speaker 5: Republican and wanting to hold on to the House or
Speaker 5: the Senate.
Speaker 3: And one of the best spankings of the media I've
Speaker 3: come across in a long time. I can't wait. I'm
Speaker 3: going to get warmed up and just give it to
Speaker 3: them good.
Speaker 5: Awesome. All on the way.
Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2: The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 5: Where'd you get this from, Michael? Where'd this come from?
Speaker 5: It's one of.
Speaker 3: Our prep sites. I thought it was pretty cool.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so Jerry Seinfeld explaining how getting fired helped his career.
Speaker 5: I am always talking to my kids about various things
Speaker 5: with failure and moving forward and lessons. I'm kind of
Speaker 5: interested in this. Go ahead.
Speaker 6: Yes, there was one huge failure at the beginning. I
Speaker 6: was cast to be a comic relief character on Benson
Speaker 6: in 1980 for when I had just moved out to L.A.
Speaker 6: at the age of 26. And I did three episodes
Speaker 6: and I showed up for the fourth And I sat
Speaker 6: down at the table and I go, how come there's
Speaker 6: no script for me?
Speaker 3: And they go, you've been fired. Why are you here?
Speaker 6: And the agent didn't call me to tell me I
Speaker 6: was fired. I was already a very dedicated stand-up comedian,
Speaker 6: but that locked the safe. I went, okay, from now on,
Speaker 6: nobody else's material. Because I'm doing their crappy material and dying.
Speaker 6: So that was a failure that was a great propeller
Speaker 6: for me.
Speaker 5: You and I can relate to that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Was it Jerry who gave us that great piece of
Speaker 3: wisdom about fail on your terms, don't fail on somebody
Speaker 3: else's terms? Probably was.
Speaker 5: Sounds like it from Matt. Because we had that experience
Speaker 5: a couple places in radio with bosses telling us exactly
Speaker 5: what kind of show to be and what sort of
Speaker 5: things to say. And it was mediocre at best. And
Speaker 5: then finally, at some point, we decided, man, the last
Speaker 5: thing you want to do if you get into any
Speaker 5: sort of entertainment business is get driven out of it.
Speaker 5: And then wonder, I wonder what would have happened if
Speaker 5: I had tried to do it the way I think
Speaker 5: it ought to happen.
Speaker 3: I wonder if I played my songs, if that would
Speaker 3: have gone better. Oh no, that'll haunt you till your
Speaker 3: dying day. If you do it your way and fail,
Speaker 3: you think, yeah, it's funny. I thought that'd work, but
Speaker 3: you tried. You didn't get controlled by somebody else and
Speaker 3: then be swept away, having never given it a real attempt.
Speaker 5: Man, and our bosses, Katie, when we came over to
Speaker 5: start doing talk radio, because we did music before, our
Speaker 5: bosses hated the way we did our show. I mean,
Speaker 5: hated it. Part of it was we were being followed
Speaker 5: by Dr. Laura, who had pretty good ratings. And the
Speaker 5: market manager said, Dr. Laura's audience is here. You're here.
Speaker 5: And that's the problem. And that's when he took away
Speaker 5: our office and we had moved our office to where
Speaker 5: the vending machines were. We had to sit in the
Speaker 5: room with the vending machines for our office with folding chairs.
Speaker 5: You guys showed them.
Speaker 9: Oh, my God.
Speaker 3: I don't think it was air-conditioned either, was it? It
Speaker 3: was always hot, probably from the vending machines.
Speaker 5: Well, we couldn't fit in there, so we had to
Speaker 5: open the door to the outside to be able to
Speaker 5: fit in this tiny little room where the vending machines were. And,
Speaker 5: you know, you're trying to work, and constantly people are
Speaker 5: coming to get a candy bar and saying, hey, what
Speaker 5: are you doing? This is our office now.
Speaker 3: What's going on? Or because we had to open up
Speaker 3: the door to outside people, it's like an office park,
Speaker 3: and people would, like, wander by and look at us. Hey. Hey,
Speaker 3: how are you?
Speaker 5: Anyway, the ultimate point being we had decided to try
Speaker 5: to do what we thought was the best way to
Speaker 5: do it, and thank God it's worked out.
Speaker 3: And it's gone from mediocre at best to consistently mediocre. Exactly.
Speaker 3: There you go. Lesson learned. Fantastic.
Speaker 5: There's some bad news out there if Republicans want to
Speaker 5: hang on to the Senate. I figure the House is
Speaker 5: a done deal, gone. But maybe even the Senate. New
Speaker 5: polling out of Texas. It shows... That Tallarico guy in
Speaker 5: the lead? Or at least it's toss-up, according to most
Speaker 5: of your really well-respected polling outfits now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, boy, polls are tougher and tougher to take seriously.
Speaker 3: But you're better off taking it seriously than saying, nah,
Speaker 3: it'll be fine.
Speaker 5: I'm losing. I can take it as seriously as I want.
Speaker 5: I have no effect on Texas politics. But they haven't
Speaker 5: elected a statewide Democrat since the 90s.
Speaker 3: Right, right. Plus a fascinating book that's just coming out
Speaker 3: that I can't wait to read, written by one of
Speaker 3: the bravest people I've ever heard of in my life.
Speaker 3: When ISIS moved into Mosul and a lot of people fled,
Speaker 3: he stayed to document what would happen.
Speaker 2: Whoa.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: That sounds fascinating.
Speaker 3: Oh, golly gee, it is. Plus a well-deserved spanking for
Speaker 3: the media from one of my favorite writers. All sorts
Speaker 3: of good stuff.
Speaker 5: That's a lot of good stuff. I'll stay tuned. Yes,
Speaker 5: consistently mediocre. We'll bring it to you. That's what we do, information.
Speaker 5: If you missed the segment, get the podcast, Armstrong and
Speaker 5: Getty On Demand. You can listen to whatever you want.
Speaker 5: If you subscribe, they'll get fed to you whenever you want.
Speaker 5: We do 20 hours of this every single week, man.
Speaker 2: The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 5: So, I heard the story all day long yesterday about
Speaker 5: Trump wanting to change Lake Ontario to America. But I
Speaker 5: hadn't seen the actual presentation of it till just now
Speaker 5: on video when he's standing there. He's sitting there in
Speaker 5: the Oval Office. The President of the United States is
Speaker 5: sitting at his desk in the Oval Office with some
Speaker 5: of his biggest advisors around him, a big map, you know,
Speaker 5: where they changed the name from Lake Ontario to Lake America,
Speaker 5: and then this guy explaining what is happening.
Speaker 7: We're going to be Changing the name of Lake Ontario,
Speaker 7: effective immediately to Lake America. That's going to take place
Speaker 7: right now as I sign the order. Do you have
Speaker 7: anything to say about it, Ben?
Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
Speaker 10: So this is a straightforward but important executive order. It
Speaker 10: directs Secretary Burgum and the Department of the Interior to
Speaker 10: update the geographic names Information Service to reflect that Lake
Speaker 10: once known as Lake Ontario will From this day forward,
Speaker 10: be known as Lake America.
Speaker 5: And he's, I don't know that guy, but he's standing
Speaker 5: there next to Stephen Miller, who's got a very, you know, expressionless,
Speaker 5: serious face. All of these people acting like this isn't crazy.
Speaker 5: All of these people standing there acting like it's not
Speaker 5: insane that this is happening. I don't even know what
Speaker 5: to do with this information.
Speaker 3: Shouldn't it be Lake New York?
Speaker 5: Okay, we're going to quibble over if we're going to
Speaker 5: change the name. All driven by the fact that the
Speaker 5: Ford dude up in Canada said kiss my ass. So
Speaker 5: that's where that's coming from. I mean, and everybody acting
Speaker 5: like this is just ridiculous. That this is what's going on.
Speaker 5: I just, oh my God, the absurdity of it all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no kidding. Hey, Michael, go ahead and play 83.
Speaker 11: And finally, sir, in this executive order, we're also changing
Speaker 11: the name of the Canada geese as per your request.
Speaker 11: They will now be known throughout the world as Donald ducks,
Speaker 11: which is a more suiting name, given that they now
Speaker 11: live in Lake America and not Canada with the rest
Speaker 11: of those losers. Donald ducks are now an American species,
Speaker 11: and they're already happily migrating to our shores as we speak.
Speaker 5: Now, that's a comedian?
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 5: Okay, so that's not real.
Speaker 3: It sounded exactly like the other dude.
Speaker 5: The problem is it's just one tick off what actually
Speaker 5: happened in the Oval Office yesterday. It's only this much different.
Speaker 3: Right, right. It's ridiculous. We're at war.
Speaker 5: Among other things going on. Wow, that is something. And
Speaker 5: the same day, that's the same day that he puts
Speaker 5: out that post about him being the greatest president of
Speaker 5: all time and on the pyramid above Washington, Lincoln, and Reagan.
Speaker 5: It's just, I don't even know what to think of this.
Speaker 3: It's not going anywhere good.
Speaker 5: But it's trolling, right? It's trolling.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. But it does damage.
Speaker 5: I don't know how it's landing. With most people.
Speaker 3: Not well, I don't think. I read an article the
Speaker 3: other day. It wasn't particularly good, entertaining, or enlightening, but
Speaker 3: it was making the point that comedians are so bored
Speaker 3: with mocking Trump. It's kind of gone away because there's just,
Speaker 3: what are you going to say at this point? I
Speaker 3: know how they feel. I'm tired of analyzing stuff like
Speaker 3: this and talking about it. Completely exhausted. Whatever. Do whatever
Speaker 3: you want. I hope the country endures and the world
Speaker 3: and the rest of it. Glad it's Friday. If it
Speaker 3: was a six-day week, tomorrow's show would be something. Trust me.
Speaker 3: So on a totally different topic. Do a little bingo, bango, bongo,
Speaker 3: a handful of stories. I remember vaguely reading years ago,
Speaker 3: I think it was in the Wall Street Journal, a
Speaker 3: piece by Bernard-Henri Lévy, who was writing about a mysterious
Speaker 3: Iraqi blogger who wrote under the name of Mosul Eye.
Speaker 3: He had just published some astonishing photographs taken of the
Speaker 3: ruins of Mosul just after it was liberated from ISIS.
Speaker 3: And he goes off on a tangent some of the
Speaker 3: stuff that he showed having to do with ancient Jewish
Speaker 3: synagogues that were in Mosul before the Muslims ran all
Speaker 3: the Jews out, which is what they tend to do.
Speaker 3: But anyway, and then he goes into filming a documentary
Speaker 3: in 2016 when the battle to liberate Mosul began. and
Speaker 3: he was making a movie then, and it was Mosul
Speaker 3: Eye who guided us on the ground. Everything was there,
Speaker 3: troop movements, positions. This guy knew the city like crazy
Speaker 3: and kept them alive and made it possible to do
Speaker 3: their film. Anyway, the man behind Mosul Eye has now
Speaker 3: published a book in the U.S. entitled Mosul Eye, and
Speaker 3: we discover the incredible story of the man who hid
Speaker 3: behind that name. His name is Omar Muhammad. He now
Speaker 3: leads a think tank initiative at George Washington University, but
Speaker 3: before his new life, he was a historian. He was
Speaker 3: 29 years old when ISIS entered the city and he
Speaker 3: could have fled, but he's decided to stay. And for months,
Speaker 3: he led a double life. He blended into the crowd.
Speaker 3: He grew his beard. He attended the mosques where the
Speaker 3: killers preached. He listened. He questioned, he checked rumors, but
Speaker 3: he developed an extraordinarily ingenious system for getting his information out.
Speaker 3: He would constantly switch how he did it by what
Speaker 3: means and, Often his notes were just handwritten or typewritten.
Speaker 3: He avoided computers for certain things.
Speaker 5: And he had to live in constant terror that he
Speaker 5: was going to be found out and killed in the
Speaker 5: most horrific way.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Um, he changed his voice. He switched from Arabic
Speaker 3: to English. He made people believe he was in Mosul
Speaker 3: when he had already left for Turkey at one point,
Speaker 3: but he managed to breach the walls of the city
Speaker 3: electronically and turn his invisible eye into the world's gaze
Speaker 3: on the martyred city. So anyway, This is the really
Speaker 3: critical part. The resulting book is a unique document, both
Speaker 3: about the years of terror in Mosul and about what
Speaker 3: everyday life can become under an Islamo-fascist regime. It's all there.
Speaker 3: The public executions he forced himself to attend so that
Speaker 3: he could hear the names of the condemned and the
Speaker 3: crimes of which they were accused. The beheadings, the stonings,
Speaker 3: the men thrown from the top of buildings for being
Speaker 3: gay or running afoul of whatever thing. The Christians driven
Speaker 3: from their cities Their homes looted, their churches destroyed. The
Speaker 3: Yazidis reduced to slavery. This one is probably too brutal
Speaker 3: to read on the air. About young girls raped so savagely,
Speaker 3: I'll let you guess the rest. I don't need to
Speaker 3: hear more of that. And finally, his brother was killed
Speaker 3: in the fighting. But it is a grim and clear-eyed
Speaker 3: account of what that movement is all about. By a
Speaker 3: guy whose courage and cleverness is just, oh my God, mountainous.
Speaker 3: I can't even imagine having the stones to do that.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Okay. Totally different topic.
Speaker 5: I'd say.
Speaker 3: That's too grim. The FAA found LaGuardia air traffic controllers
Speaker 3: had left work early before that deadly collision between the
Speaker 3: plane and the fire truck. Semi-regular. They called it early push.
Speaker 5: I didn't know that until yesterday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're clocked in until, you know, 10, but they
Speaker 3: leave at 9. They got a dinner reservation.
Speaker 5: If it's not a busy day, they let them leave early.
Speaker 3: Yeah, except that on that day, it was an extremely
Speaker 3: busy evening.
Speaker 5: Isn't that kind of consistent? I would think. I mean,
Speaker 5: the flights I take, they're the same ones, same days,
Speaker 5: same times, all the time. It's not like there's busy days.
Speaker 5: Of course, the airport's busier sometimes than others, obviously. I
Speaker 5: don't know. I don't know what that is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's called an early shove. I'm sorry. Let's see.
Speaker 3: Where is the account of what was happening that night?
Speaker 5: When the airport's really busy, like during holidays, are there
Speaker 5: more flights going on or is it just they're more full?
Speaker 5: Because usually I think just like some of the routes
Speaker 5: that I take, it seems like the flights are always
Speaker 5: the same. Like if I want to go to Denver,
Speaker 5: they have the same number of flights there.
Speaker 3: I think the the answer is both more flights and
Speaker 3: more full. So anyway, they say it's not a huge
Speaker 3: problem among air. It's a small percentage who do this,
Speaker 3: but they're going to see if they can root it
Speaker 3: out and make sure it doesn't happen again. But which
Speaker 3: sounds like a hell of a good idea.
Speaker 5: But like speaking of algorithms, I feel like the evening newscasts,
Speaker 5: which most of you probably don't watch. It's like my
Speaker 5: YouTube algorithm, except they decided for me that I like
Speaker 5: anything that happens with a plane anywhere in the world.
Speaker 5: And that's, you know, one of their lead stories every
Speaker 5: single night.
Speaker 3: Right. I don't.
Speaker 5: And I don't think most people do.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I know. If some cargo plane has flames coming from
Speaker 3: the tires for five seconds, it'll be it'll lead the
Speaker 3: evening news.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, if it bleeds, it leads. If there's fire,
Speaker 3: it goes higher. We heard that 30 years ago. Let's see,
Speaker 3: one more topic. Well, we'd have to rush through it
Speaker 3: a little bit, but I liked it. If you are
Speaker 3: a taker in of news media, and evidently you are,
Speaker 3: you're familiar with the constant stories about courts have ruled
Speaker 3: Trump cannot, or they put a restraining order or a
Speaker 3: temporary blah, blah, blah, and how that it leads, especially
Speaker 3: the lefty news every single day. Kim Strassel with a
Speaker 3: great piece about the media's lawfare enabling news. And she
Speaker 3: starts with the Supreme Court last week allowing Donald Trump's
Speaker 3: ballroom construction to proceed, which elicited shock from the press corps.
Speaker 3: The court on Monday allowed the president's mail-in voting order
Speaker 3: to continue, eliciting the same shock. This follows the shock
Speaker 3: after the Trump administration wins on immigration enforcement, personnel firings, DEI,
Speaker 3: transgender orders, and dozens of other issues. How long is
Speaker 3: the public meant to treat the press's pearl-clutching as genuine,
Speaker 3: rather than part of a campaign to undermine the administration
Speaker 3: and the credibility of the high court? And she says
Speaker 3: the state of legal reporting has reached peak national embarrassment,
Speaker 3: a masterclass in fiction that rivals the reporting about Russian
Speaker 3: collusion and Joe Biden's undiminished capacity.
Speaker 5: It's always been bad. I think in the past it
Speaker 5: was bad out of like ignorance and laziness. And now
Speaker 5: it's that plus trying to discredit the Trump court, what
Speaker 5: they call the Trump court.
Speaker 3: So here's the, the nut of the piece. The swings
Speaker 3: and misses are, oh, the formula is now so routine
Speaker 3: that nobody pushes back. It works like this. The administration
Speaker 3: takes an action that offends liberal sensibilities. Interest groups rush
Speaker 3: to litigate, sometimes with prepackaged lawsuits. The press quotes liberal
Speaker 3: law professors and the litigators themselves as to why the
Speaker 3: suits are worthy. A liberal judge issues an injunction, which
Speaker 3: is treated as further proof of a lawsuit's merit. The
Speaker 3: stories omit any critical analysis of standing, jurisdiction, merits, or precedents.
Speaker 3: When a higher court corrects the legal overreach, the media,
Speaker 3: rather than acknowledging it got wrong, insists the judges are
Speaker 3: in the tank for Mr. Trump.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: And then she goes into the building the ballroom project
Speaker 3: is a great example.
Speaker 5: If y'all are into the building the ballroom or the
Speaker 5: reflecting pool or what's the what's the what's one of
Speaker 5: them yesterday that I was thinking about? We're not into that.
Speaker 5: We don't follow a lot similar sort of thing. Just
Speaker 5: good for you. but I just.
Speaker 3: The Kennedy Center renaming.
Speaker 5: Yes, that's it. Renaming the Kennedy Center. Whatever. It might
Speaker 5: be horrible. I don't know. I'm not going to... You
Speaker 5: only get so many days on Earth. I'm not going
Speaker 5: to spend any of them on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. How many gallons of ink have been spilled
Speaker 3: on that as opposed to the national debt or whatever?
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Speaker 9: Girl Scouts can now earn badges by learning about the
Speaker 9: pillars of Islam and visiting mosques. Well, the downside is
Speaker 9: they can now be stoned to death for failing to
Speaker 9: sell enough thin mints.
Speaker 3: Dark, yet apropos. So a glimpse behind the scenes. I
Speaker 3: think I had a bit of an old guy moment,
Speaker 3: but I'm not alone. We played the clip of President
Speaker 3: Trump ordering the renaming of Lake Ontario to Lake America.
Speaker 3: And I want you to focus on the second voice
Speaker 3: in this clip. Eighty four first, Michael. Eighty four.
Speaker 7: We're going to be changing the name of Lake Ontario,
Speaker 7: effective immediately to Lake America. That's going to take place
Speaker 7: right now as I sign the order. Do you have
Speaker 7: anything to say about it, Ben?
Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
Speaker 10: So this is a straightforward but important executive order. It
Speaker 10: directs Secretary Burgum and the Department of the Interior to
Speaker 10: update the Geographic Names Information Service to reflect that.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's plenty, Michael. now play Champagne Joshy, comedian influencer,
Speaker 3: with his comedy bit.
Speaker 11: And finally, sir, in this executive order, we're also changing
Speaker 11: the name of the Canada geese as per your request.
Speaker 11: They will now be known throughout the world as Donald Ducks,
Speaker 11: which is a more suiting name, given that they now
Speaker 11: live in Lake America.
Speaker 5: And not Canada.
Speaker 3: That's funny, you can cut it. So as an audio guy,
Speaker 3: I says to myself, I says, wait a minute, not
Speaker 3: only is that the best imitation of that guy conceivable
Speaker 3: on earth, But it's the same sort of microphone at
Speaker 3: the same distance, et cetera. What is going on there?
Speaker 3: And here's the old guy part. Katie says, yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: pretty sure he took the guy's voice and his visage
Speaker 3: and used AI to create that comedy bit.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 5: Didn't occur to me.
Speaker 3: That hadn't even dawned on me. Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: A couple of old guys. Wow. That's scary.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is. How many people....
Speaker 3: Where was the dividing line, folks? What word was the
Speaker 3: last sincere one and what was the first parody one?
Speaker 3: And or, you know, not to chuck a parodies for
Speaker 3: the sake of a good chuckle, but to assassinate somebody's
Speaker 3: character or start a war or what have you.
Speaker 5: How many people will hear that and think that is real? Lots.
Speaker 6: Millions.
Speaker 3: It's so absurd, maybe not, but again, if it were
Speaker 3: a more serious topic and more subtly done, it would
Speaker 3: be indistinguishable from the truth.
Speaker 5: It's hard to get a lot more absurd than renaming
Speaker 5: Lake Ontario because you're mad at Canada. I mean, the
Speaker 5: Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America... Donald Ducks, they're
Speaker 5: not ducks, they're geese!
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sorry, I can't let that go.
Speaker 5: You can't change their species or genus or whatever.
Speaker 3: Right, that's my point.
Speaker 5: Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America... ridiculous to make
Speaker 5: that an issue, but at least you can understand it.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, but Lake Ontario, what? It's not
Speaker 5: a Canadian thing. It's an Indian thing long before Canada.
Speaker 5: What are we even doing here?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. But anyway, focusing again on
Speaker 3: the post-truth world we live in, God help us.
Speaker 5: So we got this text, and you all voted for
Speaker 5: this loser and all of his nonsense. I was thinking
Speaker 5: about this yesterday, actually, listening to one of my favorite
Speaker 5: podcasts who hates Trump so much. I still. I check
Speaker 5: myself every once in a while. Would we have been
Speaker 5: better off? I mean, you got two choices. It's just
Speaker 5: a fact on Election Day. You had two choices. And
Speaker 5: would we be better off with Kamala Harris than Donald Trump?
Speaker 5: In my mind, not a chance. As we would have
Speaker 5: marched further down the road of woke apocalypse and all
Speaker 5: kinds of crazy crap around climate change and trans and
Speaker 5: and just all kinds of different stuff. And then her
Speaker 5: judgment on foreign policy and everything like that. So to me,
Speaker 5: it's not even close.
Speaker 3: So if I might wax metaphoric, well, I find Trump
Speaker 3: obnoxious and he is good. I pray every day he
Speaker 3: doesn't leave the country into disaster. I agree. I had
Speaker 3: the choice between setting myself on fire and hurling myself
Speaker 3: off a cliff or taking my kids to Disneyland. If
Speaker 3: I'm stuck in a two-hour line and you say, it
Speaker 3: was your decision to come to Disneyland, stupid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no.
Speaker 3: No, you haven't made the point I think you think
Speaker 3: you made. The alternative was horrifying. Ay caramba, we need
Speaker 3: a third party or several or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: It's crazy where we are, though, man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, boy.
Speaker 5: One of the most unique human beings, if not the
Speaker 5: most unique being that has ever lived on Earth, is
Speaker 5: Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: Yep.
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