1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: And we continue at one oh five in the afternoon 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: on the Giant Phillips Show. Mister Randy Wang's in Culver City. 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: You cursed us again, didn't you. 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: I'll tell you. I don't know what the deal is. 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: I don't know who on the other side I offended. 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: But whenever I tease ahead, whoever it is it's supposed 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: to be here isn't here. How many times in a 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: row has that happened. 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: It's happened quite a lot this year. 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: And they teach you when you start broadcasting you always 11 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: have to tease ahead. You always have to let the 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: audience know what's coming up. If you don't tease ahead, 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: people won't stick around. And so I tease ahead and 14 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: then I get slapped. 15 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 3: I think we can stop teasing ahead. It'll just be 16 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 3: a pleasant surprise if the guest that's booked actually shows up. 17 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 3: Oh, Tony Thurman, What in the world could you be 19 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: too busy to do? 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: Right now? 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: We're trying to collect the Tonys. We had Tony Vira 22 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: Gosa Antonio, he was on the show. He did it twice. 23 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: Tony Atkins dropped out, so she's not going to be 24 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: doing any press. So Tony Thurman's the last Tony. This 25 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: could be him calling in. It could also not be. 26 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: We'll see. There's a screening happening right now as we speak. Oh, 27 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna be him. It's happening, Johnny. 28 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 3: I'll give you the green light in any minute, now, 29 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: any second, now, Okay, you're good to go. 30 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: All right. It is our pleasure to welcome our next 31 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: guest to the program. He is the Superintendent of Public 32 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: Instruction here in the state of California, overseeing California's public 33 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: school system. He's also a candidate for governor. Get him 34 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: online at Tony Thurman dot com and you can follow 35 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: him on x at Tony Thurman Superintendent. Tony Thurman. 36 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 4: Welcome, Hey, thanks for having me on. 37 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: How you doing, John, I'm good, Thanks so much for 38 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: stopping by this afternoon. 39 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 4: Thank you. 40 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: So let's just start out with the pitch. Why should 41 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: you be the next governor of the state of California. 42 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 4: Hey, Ultimately the voters will decide, but you know, I've 43 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 4: got eighteen years of experience in this state leading under 44 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 4: very difficult circumstances, you know, building housing, you know, building 45 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 4: programs to help our students who are hungry and helping 46 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 4: them to do better in school and addressing homelessness. And 47 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 4: so I'm running as a candidate with the plan to 48 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 4: build two million housing units and to help the ten 49 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 4: thousand homeless teams in our state and help Californias get 50 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 4: good paying jobs. And so I hope that matters to 51 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 4: the people of California and I'm submitting my experience to 52 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 4: them as someone who wants to continue serving and helping 53 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 4: the people in this state at this very difficult time. 54 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: What do you make of this effort, given the fact 55 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: that the ballots go out and I think a little 56 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: under a month right now, and people are now starting 57 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: to pay attention to the race in ways that they 58 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: weren't before. We had the Super Bowl going on, we 59 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: had all kinds of sporting events, the holidays, people were 60 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: preoccupied with other things, and now they're starting to focus 61 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: on the gubernatorial race. And there was a debate that 62 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: was supposed to take place over at USC and you 63 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: were going to be excluded from that debate. And I 64 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: can't figure out for the life of me why they're 65 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: trying to do that at this point, particularly when polling 66 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: is something they typically cite. Okay, Whenever you look at 67 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: a poll, there's always a margin of ara, there's a 68 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: plus or minus. And because so many candidates in this 69 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: race are bunched up together, you guys at the bottom 70 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: aren't very far from the people who are polling in 71 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: the first place slot, the second place slot, the third 72 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: place slot. When you look at the margin Evra, it 73 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: just tells you, essentially that they're all clumped together. I 74 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: don't understand this effort to try to deny these voices, 75 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: deny the voices of some of the candidates who are 76 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: running from being able to participate in these debates so 77 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: that the people of California can hear an honest discussion 78 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: about what the future of the state should be. 79 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 4: I don't know I can put it any better than 80 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 4: you just did. That people of California should be able 81 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 4: to hear from all the candidates and have that honest 82 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 4: discussion about the future of the state, hear from each 83 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 4: of the candidates so they can make their selection. Maybe 84 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 4: the issue is that they just think they're too many 85 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 4: people and they want to limit the voices. But we've 86 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 4: been in a bunch of debates where we've had as 87 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 4: many as ten candidates and there's plenty of time devoted 88 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 4: to each of the issues. And so, you know, this 89 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 4: is a democracy and people should be able to hear 90 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 4: from the candidates. Now, look, if a host wants to 91 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 4: change rules, I don't agree with those choices, but that's 92 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 4: their choice. But in this case, they change the rules 93 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 4: to admit after the fact another candidate who they said 94 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 4: was also low polling. And so the point I was 95 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 4: making is, look, be open and fair and democratic about 96 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 4: how you do it, but don't change the rules to 97 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 4: favor some new candidate. And so that was completely you know, 98 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 4: out of pocket, as they say, And so I spoke 99 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 4: up about it, and yeah, the outcome of what they 100 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 4: did was to keep any candidate who is a personal 101 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 4: color out of the conversation. What message does that send? 102 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 4: You know? I just thought it was a bad look 103 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 4: for USC And instead of saying, hey, let us make 104 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 4: some corrections here, they flat out canceled the debate. I 105 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 4: just thought, Wow, that's an even worse look for them. 106 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 4: Having said that, you know, we're focusing on our conversation 107 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 4: with the voters. As you say, we're getting closer to 108 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 4: election day, and we have great message and we know 109 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 4: the voters here our message that it helps us to win, 110 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 4: and so we're focused there on doing the outreach and 111 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 4: doing the hard work that we need to do to 112 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 4: reach the voters in this state. 113 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: It seems to me also like the politics of it 114 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: are stupid because they wanted to push guys out of 115 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: the race. The chairman of the party asked you guys 116 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: to drop out, and I think Ian Calderon was the 117 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: only one who took him up on the offer. And 118 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: then they tried to exclude you from the debates. Well, okay, 119 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: so I guess they want one of the three top 120 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: performing Democrats. Well, today one of them, Eric Swalwell, was 121 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: accused of sexual harassment from people who used to work 122 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: in his office. When Katie Porter had that video come 123 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: out of her swearing at a staffer, she was asked, 124 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: could you promise us that there won't be another video 125 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: like that that comes out? She couldn't say that there 126 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't be if they were to push you guys out 127 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: of the race. And one of the people at the 128 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: top implodes, do you really want to be stuck with 129 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: that with no other options? 130 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 4: Now you raise a great point. The chairman of the 131 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 4: Democratic Party literally texted me a note saying, get out 132 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 4: on the day that I was going to file my 133 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 4: candidacy and file my papers to run. You know, if 134 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 4: they were trying to whittle down the number of candidates, 135 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 4: that's a conversation that probably should have taken place six 136 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 4: months ago, nine months ago. And to send that as 137 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 4: a text message, you know, my cell phone is the 138 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 4: worst kept secret in this state. Everyone knows how to 139 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 4: reach me. The chair of the party knows how to 140 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 4: reach me. I just thought it was classless. It was questionable, 141 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 4: you know, as you indicate, these candidates are sort of 142 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 4: broiled in controversy on different levels. You know, I want 143 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 4: the voters to know that there's another candidate who has 144 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 4: a plan, and who is the only candidate who's articulated 145 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 4: a plan for building two million housing units and for 146 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 4: restoring the American dream for Californias who can't afford to 147 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 4: live here, giving down payment assistance to make sure that 148 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 4: people can buy a home. And a candidate who is saying, hey, 149 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 4: let's give text credits to working people and middle class 150 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 4: people who need a little more money to keep up 151 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 4: with the rising cost of gas, in grocery and housing. 152 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 4: I think those are things that people will care about 153 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 4: and I hope if people you know your followers will 154 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 4: check us out at Tony Thurman dot com to learn 155 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 4: more about how we want to help address the high 156 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 4: cost of living in our state. 157 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: Your background is education. You are the state superintendent of 158 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: public instruction here in California. That's what you spend your 159 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: time on. And I've got a question for you. Popped 160 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: up over the weekend when I was talking to a 161 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: friend and we're talking about how the state of California 162 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: can do some things well. They can do some things 163 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: very well. Higher education in California is something that is 164 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: almost universally respected all over the country. Our community colleges 165 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: are great, The California State University is great. The University 166 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: of California is great. Not only is the education that 167 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: they provide a good one, but the value is there. 168 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: Our public universities, compared to public universities and other states, 169 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: are much cheaper and they are frequently more highly regarded 170 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: than other public universities. But then you look at K 171 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: through twelve and I don't have a person in my 172 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: social network who lives in a big city who has 173 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: their kids in the public school system, Not in La 174 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: not in San Francisco, not in Oakland. If they stay 175 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: in the city, they put their kids in private schools 176 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: because the schools are awful and they don't want to 177 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: put their kids in those public schools. The other thing 178 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: that many of them do is they just move to 179 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: a suburban area where the schools are good and they 180 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: are willing to put their kids in those public schools. 181 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: K through twelve. Why is it that our K through 182 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: twelve system struggles as much as it does, but our 183 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: higher education system seems to be clicking on all cylinders. 184 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 4: Well, you raise a good point, and there's so much 185 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 4: more that we still have to do to make changes 186 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 4: in education. You know, we cannot rest in our laurels. 187 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 4: There's been a little bit of growth. But even when 188 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 4: I came to this job in twenty nineteen, you know, 189 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 4: reading scores and math scores, by and large, we're pretty low. 190 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 4: And then we have the pandemic, and so they took 191 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 4: another drop. And now they're back to pre pandemic levels 192 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 4: for the most part. And we're seeing some bright spots. 193 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 4: You know, in our biggest districts were seeing you know, 194 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 4: incredible Los Angeles, Compton, other places. We're seeing incredible growth 195 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 4: for our students around reading and math proficiency, but as 196 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 4: a state, it has been sluggish and we have a 197 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 4: lot more work to do, and that has factored into 198 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 4: my decision I'd like to continue serving. I'm in my 199 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 4: final term in states superintendent in their schools, and you know, 200 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 4: I came to this office really believing that we can 201 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 4: make education better and it's just taking longer. I mean literally, 202 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 4: in the pandemic, I discovered that there were six million 203 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 4: students who did not have access to a computer or 204 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 4: access to the internet, and at that time that was 205 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 4: the only way that they could be connected. So here 206 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 4: I am asking for donations and having to secure money. 207 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 4: We secured six billion dollars to give broadband in our 208 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 4: state and another million computers donated in hot spots for 209 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 4: our kids. But we have to do better than that, 210 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 4: and that's why I'm leading this new effort. It's a 211 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 4: five year plan to make sure all of our kids 212 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 4: learn to read by third grade. Other states have done it. 213 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 4: They've done these long term reading plans where there's more 214 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 4: more the sexiest screening, and more tutoring, and so California 215 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 4: needs to build one and fund it. You know, the 216 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 4: voters have been very generous and giving lots of resources, 217 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 4: but our schools still struggle with funding because we have 218 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 4: a system where you only get money every day when 219 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 4: students are present, and we have a lot of kids 220 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 4: who are absent, and so we have to change that system. 221 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 4: If we change that system to be based on our enrollment, 222 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 4: it means six billion dollars more for the state without 223 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 4: asking voters for any more money. And so as governor, 224 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 4: I would certainly like to create that type of a system. 225 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 4: We also have to help we have homeless students. We 226 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,119 Speaker 4: have ten thousand homeless teens right now, sixteen and seventeen 227 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 4: on their own who need help, and I'm working on 228 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 4: a proposal to house them and get them support and 229 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 4: get them into training programs. We have more than two 230 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 4: hundred and forty thousand homeless students in our state and 231 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 4: kids who are hungry. I mean, California is the fourth 232 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 4: wealthiest economy in the world. We could do better, and 233 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 4: you know, as hard as it is, I'm rolling up 234 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 4: my sleeves and saying, let's find a way to make 235 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 4: sure that California does better and do better. In higher education, 236 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 4: our colleges and university struggle. They don't have the dollars 237 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 4: for facilities. We have so many homeless kids. I actually 238 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 4: introduced the bill that says we'd make college free for 239 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 4: California kids because right now California students in colleges have 240 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 4: higher debt than we've ever seen. I'd rather than be 241 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 4: able to put that money towards buying a home or 242 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 4: launching a business. We have a lot of work to do, 243 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 4: but I'm rolling up my sleeves to continue doing network 244 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 4: and I believe that this reading about third grade plan 245 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 4: is going to help us see real dividends in terms 246 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 4: of the return that we get for our students in 247 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 4: terms of their performance. 248 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 1: One of the states that people frequently look down their 249 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: nose yet is Mississippi. Mississippi is frequently at the bottom 250 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: of every list that you could look at, whether it's reading, math, whatever, 251 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: high school graduation. The state of Mississippi has gone all 252 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: in on phonics and they are seeing growth among reading 253 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: scores among their K through twelve students, like no one 254 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: thought was possible. What do you make of what's going 255 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: on there and their success. 256 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 4: Well, you have a great example. You know, they had 257 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 4: a ten year plan and every student got access to 258 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 4: the phonics education, and so that's the plan that I'm 259 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 4: referring to here in California, and in this case, I'm 260 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 4: suggesting we do it in five year increments in measure. 261 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 4: But it is based in premise on providing phonics instruction. 262 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 4: And I don't know why, but it's been a huge 263 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 4: fight to get phonics in our schools. And I've had 264 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 4: to go to the legislature to get approval to make 265 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 4: sure that every new teacher gets trained in phonics based instruction, 266 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 4: to make sure that all of our school districts are 267 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 4: using phonics based instruction. Now our schools are, and so 268 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 4: I believe we're going to see some growth for our 269 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 4: schools and some catching up, but it has been a 270 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 4: big fight just to get there. And so now we'll 271 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 4: have more phonics, we'll have more dyslexia screening. That too, 272 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 4: has been a big fight. It took two years just 273 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 4: trying to get a bill heard that would ensure we 274 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 4: have dyslexia screening in our schools. And I said, hey, 275 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 4: I'm not having that. Seventy plus percent of those in 276 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 4: our jails can't read. That means that they had the 277 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 4: sexy or other learning difficulties that didn't get recognized. And 278 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 4: so you know, I leaned all the way in and 279 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 4: got that bill you know, passed, and ultimately convinced the 280 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 4: governor to put the money in the budget for us 281 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 4: to have the sexiest screening. So we've got a lot 282 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 4: of the pieces, but we have to put them together. Now. 283 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 4: We got to mash down on the gas and make 284 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 4: sure that our kids are ready, both in reading and math. 285 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 4: I also passed legislation to make sure our kids learned 286 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 4: personal finance. This means that they'll have less debt and 287 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 4: they'll learn how to manage money. They're more likely to 288 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 4: go to college. We've got to double down on what 289 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 4: we do around computer science and technology. There's probably eighty 290 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 4: five thousand jobs and technology that could go unfilled unless 291 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 4: our schools align more with AI and technology. And so 292 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 4: those are the things that we're promoting to help our students. 293 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 4: And I'll be an education governor continuing to bring this 294 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 4: work on behalf of nearly six million students in our 295 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 4: public schools. 296 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: I want to go back to something you said. You 297 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: said that phonducts you had to fight for because it's 298 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: so controversial. Why is it controversial? It works? Are a 299 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: dozen and We've seen a lot of evidence, including what's 300 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: going on right now in Mississippi, that it does work. 301 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 4: Clearly, it works, and I think people are sometimes afraid 302 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 4: of the things that they don't know. There was some 303 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 4: feeling that it was going to leave out if you 304 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 4: only teach students to recognize words but not understand the word, 305 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 4: that there would be a misrepresentation about what students really know. 306 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 4: There were concerns about English learners and that they might 307 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 4: be able to recognize the word but not know the 308 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 4: meaning of the word. And so I've investigated this in 309 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 4: other states, and we have found that other states have 310 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 4: used phonics and they've been able to make sure that 311 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 4: even English learners understand the meaning of the word and 312 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 4: there been no setbacks and no drawbacks. They call it 313 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 4: the science of reading, right. Phonics is a big part 314 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 4: of the science of reading, and what it really means 315 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 4: is we have to study the way the brain works 316 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 4: and the way our brains learn and to make sure 317 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 4: we give information to students in those ways. And so 318 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 4: for the first time in California's history, all of our 319 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 4: requirements align with making sure that we have this science 320 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 4: of reading and phonics based instruction and everyone who's in 321 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 4: a teacher training program right now is getting trained on 322 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 4: how to teach in a phonics based way, and so 323 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 4: it's been a huge fight. We've gotten over that hump 324 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 4: and now we're in a position where students can benefit 325 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 4: from that hard work. We also have to fill a 326 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 4: lot of vacancies in our education workforce, and you know, 327 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 4: we do have scholarships for those who want to become 328 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 4: teachers mental health clinicians. Right now, I can offer ten 329 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 4: thousand dollars to anybody who wants to become a teacher 330 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 4: or a mental health clinician, and once they're in a 331 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 4: teacher training program to get their credential, they're going to 332 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 4: learn about phonics based instruction as the way to go 333 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 4: and making sure our students have what they need to 334 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 4: be able to be proficient readers. 335 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: To my eye, the biggest mistake we've made in public 336 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: education in my lifetime in this state was keeping the 337 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: schools shut down as long as we did during COVID. 338 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: They were open in places like Florida, where on campus 339 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: instruction commenced long before it did in California. In California 340 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: and some of the big city school districts like LAUSD. 341 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: They were shut down the longest. Do you think public 342 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: Education realizes that they made a massive, massive, massive mistake 343 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: keeping those schools shut down as long as they did. 344 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 4: You know, we have a thousand school districts in this state, 345 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 4: and each of them makes their own rules about open 346 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 4: and close, and I think people were just scared, you know, 347 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 4: looking back, many people were scared. I was scared. Both 348 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 4: of my children graduated from the public schools in California 349 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 4: and they were both in school and during the pandemic, 350 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 4: and it was a scary time. I'll tell you when 351 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 4: things change for me is when we approached you know, November, 352 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 4: there was some clarity that you could use things like 353 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 4: rapid COVID tests to get people back in school, to 354 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 4: you know, keep people home who were sick and in 355 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 4: school fewer you tested negative. And so we wrote guidance 356 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 4: that said, hey, get people back in school and use 357 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 4: the PPE used the rapid COVID tests. You know, the 358 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 4: governor worked with the legislature to carve out a plan 359 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 4: that would get people back. And it was kind of 360 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 4: a fancy way of saying, you get more money for 361 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 4: the fewer days that your schools are virtual. It backfired. 362 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 4: But I'll have to say this, every state, even those 363 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 4: that had some school days open sooner than California, every 364 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 4: state struggled with what we call learning loss and learning gaps. 365 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 4: Every state. I'll say this, no state has done more 366 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 4: than California to do more to offset that learning loss. 367 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 4: Extra tutoring. We gave schools money for a longer school day, 368 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 4: extra tutoring, more equipment, more computers, all the things that 369 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 4: California is doing, and more after school programs. Everything California 370 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 4: is doing, you know, is dramatically more than you'll see 371 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 4: in any other state. Unfortunately, a pandemic is like a 372 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 4: one time, hopefully one time worldwide thing that I hope 373 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 4: we never deal with again. I mean, one hundred thousand 374 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 4: people lost their lives here. Hopefully we never see that again. 375 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 4: There's no question that learning loss results as a result 376 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 4: of it, but people were trying to keep kids safe, 377 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 4: and what we're seeing is that there's learning loss at 378 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 4: every state in California's doing more to combat that learning loss. 379 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: Tony Thurman, California Superintendent of Public Instruction candidate for governor. 380 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: You could get him online at Tony Thurman dot com 381 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,719 Speaker 1: and follow him on x at Tony Thurman, Superintendent Thurman. 382 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for stopping by. 383 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 4: Thank you, take care. 384 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two what 385 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: eight hundred two two two five two two two. 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Uh oh, apparently it's really hard 416 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 3: to shut these locations down. 417 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 2: I don't understand it. 418 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: They're all over the place. They seem to be pretty popular. 419 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 3: It's like, apparently it's impossible for the LA city attorney 420 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 3: to shut down the illegal pot stores. 421 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 2: Then what is your job? 422 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 3: What if you can't shut they will shut you down 423 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 3: if you're a legitimate business because you don't have a 424 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 3: mop sink in the right place, but you're operating illegally. 425 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 3: You're a front for a criminal enterprise and they can't 426 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 3: shut you down. 427 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: Well, if you shut down the massage parlors, that means 428 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: they can't go there anymore. 429 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 3: Maybe that's what it is for more. Here is NBC 430 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 3: in San Diego. 431 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 6: We're going to start tonight in University Heights, where the 432 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 6: San Diego City Attorney claims a local massage business is 433 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 6: really a front for prostitution. This spa is on Adams Avenue, 434 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 6: near businesses, homes, a park in BC seven's Jenekaesada spoke 435 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 6: with the city attorney and also neighbors. 436 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 7: This is the nineteen page complaint this San Diego City 437 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 7: Attorney filed against the owner of Osaka Massage. 438 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: On every single one of the names makes me laugh. 439 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 3: I don't think they were doing any Shiatsu at Osaka. 440 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 7: Filed against the owner of Osaka Massage on Adams Avenue 441 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 7: for allegedly operating as an ongoing front for prostitution and 442 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 7: illegal activity in the University Heights neighborhood. According to the 443 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 7: San Diego City Attorney, the property developed a reputation online 444 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 7: as a destination for prostitution. 445 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: What gave it away? Was it the ads on Craigslist? 446 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: I'm guessing there were several red flags. 447 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 3: Were they offering table showers and four hands massage? 448 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: Burke Williams, It's not. 449 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 3: I don't know if anybody has ever legitimately asked for 450 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 3: a table massage, a table shower. 451 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 7: With more than one hundred and thirty five ads and 452 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 7: reviews referencing sexual services at that. 453 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: Location doesn't help when the Yelp review says, well, if 454 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 3: you want that, you can get it here. 455 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're in the shop, can't you find a 456 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: way to get that deleted? 457 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 4: Now? 458 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 2: I got to look this place up on Yelp. 459 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 7: With more than one hundred and thirty five ads and 460 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 7: reviews referencing sexual services at that location. 461 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 8: This is a neighborhood that is a virant part of 462 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 8: our city where a lot of people are engaging in 463 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 8: their everyday activities. And to have this kind of nuisance 464 00:23:58,760 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 8: activity and. 465 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 3: This here's the first review. Five stars. This is one 466 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 3: of those massage parlors. If you catch my drift, I 467 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 3: am in tears. All the middle aged women are upset 468 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 3: that they didn't enjoy their massage. Fellas, this is the 469 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 3: place to go for that kind of massage. 470 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 2: Soccer moms stay away. Five stars. 471 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: They call them gentlemen's massages. 472 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 8: Despite multiple attempts to try and get compliance, it was 473 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 8: time to do something else. 474 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 7: The complaint states that undercover officers with the San Diego 475 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 7: Police Department were often solicited for sex. 476 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 3: Okay, another review here from Steven. He uses a term 477 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 3: that I can't use to describe what this establishment is. 478 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 3: The R and T come on. Of course they don't 479 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 3: know proper massage techniques. They are focused on the work 480 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 3: after the flip at the end, good serve nice ladies 481 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 3: and reasonable prices. 482 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 2: How many stars did he give them? Four stars? 483 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 8: Despite multiple attempts to try and get compliance, it was 484 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 8: time to do something else. 485 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 3: The complaints say, if you're a front, you're a criminal enterprise. 486 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 3: This is obviously not a legitimate business. You can't take 487 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 3: their license away. You can't evict them. What a Shirley 488 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 3: Weber in charge of that too? 489 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 7: The complaint states set undercover officers with the San Diego 490 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 7: Police Department were often solicited for sex and nearly every 491 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 7: visit they made to the site. 492 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 3: How long was that investigation and how many times did 493 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 3: they have to go to be thorough? 494 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure they had plenty of volunteers. 495 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 7: The complaint states set undercover officers with the San Diego 496 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 7: Police Department were often solicited for sex and nearly every 497 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 7: visit they made to the site, adding that employees allegedly. 498 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 3: Offered here's a one star review because he was not 499 00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 3: offered a happy ending. 500 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: What police department is that guy. 501 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 3: With regular massage and they still expect tips And I 502 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 3: didn't ask for anything else, never coming back there ever again. 503 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 7: The complaint states that undercover officers with the San Diego 504 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 7: Police Department were often solicited for sex and nearly every 505 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 7: visit they made to the site, adding that employees allegedly 506 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 7: offered sex acts for additional payment, negotiated prices, and engage 507 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 7: in loued conduct inside private rus. 508 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 3: Now did they verbally say what the services were going 509 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 3: to be or was this a little show and tell? 510 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: Well, I think sometimes it's what you'd call nonverbal communication. 511 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 2: They're playing charades, uh. 512 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 7: Huh an engage in loued conduct inside private rooms. 513 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 8: And that's part of the reason we decided it was 514 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 8: time to file on this because clearly repeated interactions with 515 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 8: the police Department, with Building in Land Use Enforcement, with 516 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 8: our office were not getting the compliance we were looking for. 517 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 3: As you can see behind me, the compliance of stop 518 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 3: offering prostitution services. 519 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: If they do that, no more tips. 520 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 7: As you can see behind me, the business is still 521 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 7: in operation. We knocked on the door hoping to speak 522 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 7: with someone, but no one answered. We did get an 523 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 7: opportunity to talk with several neighbors in the area and 524 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 7: get their reaction. Paul Coogan says he bikes along the 525 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 7: Adams Avenue corridor almost every evening. 526 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 9: I'm not surprised really, the hours seemed a little late. 527 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 3: Nobody gets a legitimate massage at ten pm. 528 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: Boy, nothing gets past this guy. Here's another review. 529 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 3: By the way, this review is from seventeen years ago. 530 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 3: It's official. This is a massage joint. First off, they're 531 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 3: open way too late to be a normal massage joint. 532 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 3: SAG and every single time I walk in there, which 533 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 3: I admit is often because I hope to one day 534 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 3: actually encounter another human to answer my questions about their business, 535 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 3: I am greeted with an empty waiting room and a 536 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 3: surveillance camera. I ring the door, nothing happens. I wave 537 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 3: to the camera, nothing happens. I walk in with friends, 538 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 3: nothing happens. I yell, stream fall the floor in convultse 539 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 3: nothing happens. I just want to hear from somebody, anybody 540 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 3: who has actually gotten a massage or a massage here. 541 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 3: I won't judge. I promise. I just want to know 542 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 3: that I'm right about this place. 543 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: This guy is a talented writer. 544 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 3: But again, that reviews from seventeen years ago. This place 545 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 3: has been known to be doing this for decades. 546 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 9: I'm not surprised, really, the hours aways seemed a little late. 547 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 7: Shall Ling Mead, echoing a similar experience. 548 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 10: I walk by this establishment frequently, often after seven in 549 00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 10: the evening. 550 00:28:59,120 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: She was this hard. 551 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 3: Here's another review. This one's from fourteen years ago. For 552 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 3: science was one of the reasons I told myself I 553 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 3: was coming here. It'll be a new experience. You've never 554 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 3: had a massage before. Besides, it's in your neighborhood and 555 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 3: you like to know the area you live in. Also, 556 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 3: it's for science. 557 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: It worked. 558 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 3: I was convinced, and with this I was able to 559 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 3: sell myself on coming in. 560 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 7: She was disheartened to hear about the alleged illicit activity 561 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 7: happening inside and says it raises public safety concerns for 562 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 7: the community. 563 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 10: You don't know who's working there. Are they working voluntarily? 564 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 10: Might that be an opportunity for human trafficking? 565 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 3: That's exactly what it is. And for all of the 566 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 3: city attorneys, including LA City Attorney Heidie Feldstein Soto that 567 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 3: gets all over stopping human trafficking. They're not shutting down 568 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 3: these establishments that are in every other strip mall in 569 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 3: the state. 570 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: Now, if they're a human t affect into the country 571 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: to work in one of these establishments, do they go 572 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,719 Speaker 1: through Ellis Island or Jeffrey Epstein's Island. 573 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 10: That kind of delegitimizes folks that are trying to have 574 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 10: a legitimate massage business. 575 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 7: But not everyone feels the same. 576 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 5: I'm kind of surprised that that is what's going on, 577 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 5: but it's not causing any problem. 578 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 2: But to the neighborhood, he's a regular. 579 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I bet you if they have one 580 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: of those cards with the whole punch, that guy's getting 581 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: real close to the free one. 582 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 7: Ferbert says. The civil lawsuit aims to accomplish two things. 583 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 7: Shut down the business operation for one year and hold 584 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 7: the over. 585 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 2: That's the best you can do. 586 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: If they shut it down for a year, they're just 587 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: going to open up another location. 588 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 3: You're operating a brothel which is not legal in the state. 589 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 3: And what because we need to like those business taxes 590 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 3: every single year, We're not going to just shut them 591 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 3: down and imprison them. 592 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: Have you ever been to Tombstone, Arizona before? I have not, 593 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: even back in the old days, the brothels were an 594 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: important part of the town square. 595 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 7: Shut down the business operation for one year and hold 596 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 7: the owner accountable through penalties of up to twenty five 597 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 7: hundred dollars per day per violation and investigative costs for 598 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 7: the alleged illicit activity that's been happening to date. 599 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 3: Well, he's just going to pass on that cost to 600 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 3: the consumer. Also, they used our favorite. 601 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: Word, accountability, accountability, accountability. 602 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 7: Janicki Seva NBC seven. 603 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 6: According to the complaint, the owner received a permit in 604 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 6: twenty twelve, and back in twenty fifteen, San Diego police 605 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 6: identified prostitution activity there twenty fifteen. 606 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 2: That was eleven years ago. 607 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: I wonder how many of these guys are getting medicare 608 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: to pay for these massages. 609 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 3: There you go, another feckless attempt for a city attorney 610 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 3: to hold accountable a purveyor of prostitution in the state 611 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 3: of California, all under the guise of a massage parlor. 612 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two is 613 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: a telephone number one eight hundred two two two five 614 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: two two two. If you'd like to email the show, 615 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: you can do so at Johnny Don't Like Show at 616 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: gmail dot com. That's Johnny Don't Like Show at gmail 617 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: dot com and Randy ear monitoring the mailbag. Sean writes 618 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: in at Johnny Don't Like Show at gmail dot com. 619 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: Osaka Massage has been providing those extra services since I 620 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: was a young lad thirty five plus years ago, and 621 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: the IRS should be getting involved. Those girls are probably 622 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: making a thousand bucks a day. Let's go to Anthony 623 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: listening online in Mississippi. Anthony. 624 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 5: Hello, Thank you John Anne Randy for taking the call. 625 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 5: Let me tell you our son. My wife and I 626 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 5: had I have a son, but when he was two 627 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 5: years old in nineteen ninety nine, we ran across the 628 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 5: Hooked on Phonics program, which was not available online, and 629 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 5: so we got the program. We sat with our son 630 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 5: and by the time he started elementary school and he 631 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 5: was reading clear, perfect English at his age, and even 632 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 5: the kindergarten teachers were surprised and they asked us what 633 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 5: did we do. We told him the very thing I'm 634 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 5: saying now, that we ran across the houton Phonics program, 635 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 5: and so he has been well at that point he 636 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 5: when by the time he started school, he was two 637 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 5: grade levels above kindergarten in his reading. So that program, 638 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 5: I don't know why California is so late in getting 639 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 5: into that. But and then also my wife and I 640 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 5: we homeschooled our son, but that program is very successful. 641 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 5: And let me also mention I was born and raised 642 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 5: in California, but my wife and I now live here 643 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 5: in Mississippi. We've been here about five years now, and 644 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 5: I'm glad to hear Mississippi is kind of coming along. 645 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you so much for the call. 646 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: Glad to hear about the success that your child experienced 647 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: learning to read through phonics. It clearly works. It's working 648 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: in Mississippi, should be doing it here in California too. 649 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: All right, it's time to reopen the California Crime Blodder. 650 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 2: It's happened yet again. 651 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: This wow, Wow, what's not new? Thunk thum thum dunk, 652 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: dund thumb thunk dunk rereads the Califonia Crime Blodder with 653 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: jun and this edition takes us to the Central Valley, where. 654 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 3: A home improvement store has been vandalized and burglarized more 655 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 3: times than the owners can count For more, here's ABC 656 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 3: thirty Action News in Fresno tonight. 657 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 7: Shattered Storefronts and Dreams. 658 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 11: A Northeast Fresno business says vandals continue to damage their 659 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 11: building and others nearby. Now the frustrated staff is speaking out, 660 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 11: hoping to get help to make the crimes stop. Thanks 661 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 11: for joining us tonight for Action News Live at six. 662 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 7: I'm Margo Kenn and. 663 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 12: I'm more on Armstrong. Our newest Action News reporter, Danielle 664 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 12: Brooke North spoke with the store manager of Home Crafters, 665 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 12: Spas and Barbecue on Herndon near Blackstone. She shows us 666 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 12: the latest damage and I it was all taking a 667 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 12: tool in more waste than one. 668 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 13: At five am, our alarm company contacted us and stated 669 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 13: our alarm was showing glass breakage. So honestly, we felt like, 670 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 13: here we go again. 671 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: It's happened yet again. 672 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 14: Now take a look. You can see the window here, 673 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 14: there's the shot of glass, the hole right where the 674 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 14: rock went through. And they say this is the third 675 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 14: time they've experienced this type of vandalism in the last 676 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 14: twelve months. 677 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 2: Three rocks in a year. 678 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 1: That's a lot of rocks in. 679 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 14: The last twelve months. 680 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 13: Our fit time in the last eighteen nineteen months, and 681 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 13: then just a couple of years ago, a car drove 682 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,919 Speaker 13: through our front door just to get a grill and leave. 683 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: Hey, Marge, there's a car inside the building. 684 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 3: Again, somebody crashed into this building with a car to 685 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 3: steal a grill. 686 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,240 Speaker 1: Maybe they were hungry. 687 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 14: Home Crafters, Spas and Barbecue store manager Terry Joy says 688 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 14: they're not the only store that's been targeted. She says 689 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 14: it's been an issue for several nearby businesses. 690 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 6: Well. 691 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 13: In this shopping center, we have been hit often. Colorado 692 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 13: Grill has been hit often, and the beauty supply store 693 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 13: next door has been hit often. 694 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 2: Everyone's getting hit. 695 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: Maybe it's time to get out of the neighborhood. 696 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 14: Eighty C thirty has reported on similar incidents at neighboring 697 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 14: business Colorado Growth, the latest one just weeks ago. The 698 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 14: restaurant's owner telling Action News their windows and doors have 699 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 14: been smashed about twenty times in the last five years. 700 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 2: It's like once a quarter. 701 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 1: How do you operate a business like that if you 702 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,280 Speaker 1: get vandalized that often. 703 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 13: We believe it's a lot of the homeless, because there 704 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 13: is a huge group of homeless around and they're in 705 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 13: front of our stores. They sleep in front of our stores, 706 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 13: and nothing's being done about it. 707 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 14: Terry says, there's not only the concern of costly repair. 708 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 3: I thought Fresno didn't put up with that. What happened 709 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 3: Fresnow dropping the ball? 710 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 14: Terry says, there's not only the concern of costly repairs. 711 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,720 Speaker 13: Right now with these boarded windows, we're looking at about 712 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 13: eighty grand. 713 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,280 Speaker 14: But also the impact on customer safety in the image 714 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 14: the stores worked hard to build over the past four decades. 715 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 13: You know, we strive to be a high end, reputable 716 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 13: place to visit, and it's not appearing. So when you 717 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 13: walk up and there's boards in the window, what a mess. 718 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: Poor business owners. But that's life in California in twenty 719 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: twenty six.