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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Sports Phone KMBR with Bill Lasky. I'm

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Speaker 1: really happy to bring in my guest today. Of course,

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Speaker 1: he works for CBS TV Channel five along with Vern Glenn.

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Speaker 1: Let's welcome in Matt Lively. Matt, how are you today?

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Speaker 2: I'm well, Bill, thanks so much for having me. This

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Speaker 2: is this feels like a real honor to be joining you.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's an honor for me, and it's honor for

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Speaker 1: the audience to get to know you a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And then Vern Glenn, when I reached out to Vern

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Speaker 1: to talk about you, ravery views from Vern. You know

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Speaker 1: some of the things he said. He was eager, he

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Speaker 1: was ready to go. He never had a time where

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Speaker 1: he didn't want to work. You know when you hear

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Speaker 1: that from here's a guy who's been in a business

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Speaker 1: over twenty five years, that's an honor from him totally.

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Speaker 2: I mean, and a great got to look up to

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Speaker 2: and talking about wanting to work, you know, that's that's Vern.

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Speaker 2: And you step into that sports department from day one

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Speaker 2: and you kind of understand that's the model around there.

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Speaker 2: And you can't be in this business if you don't

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Speaker 2: want to work, because everything is curious, everything is interesting,

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Speaker 2: and we work in one of the best sports markets

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Speaker 2: in the world. So why wouldn't you want to be

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Speaker 2: at the ballparker at the football field every single day.

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Speaker 1: Well, Matt, let's learn a little bit about you. You

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Speaker 1: grew up in southern Florida, youngest of three boys. How

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Speaker 1: about that? Yeah, brothers, you and two other ones. How

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Speaker 1: entertaining was that in your house?

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Speaker 2: Entertaining is a word to describe it painful. Painful might

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Speaker 2: be another word that you could describe being the youngest

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Speaker 2: of the three brothers, I mean a ton of fun.

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Speaker 2: I think my love for sports, my love for competition,

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Speaker 2: comes from the way that I was raised and having

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Speaker 2: with and occasionally take a beating from uh, you know

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Speaker 2: how it goes. But yeah, I grew up in South Florida,

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Speaker 2: and then I mean I just love sports from day one.

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Speaker 2: And I remember I was watching Sports Center one day

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Speaker 2: and I thought, God, that'd be a cool job, Like

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Speaker 2: what what? What is there better than to be on

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Speaker 2: TV talking sports? If you know, if you're not good

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Speaker 2: enough to play them, which is my case. I went

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Speaker 2: through high school, played baseball, played a bunch of different sports,

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Speaker 2: and then my focus became journalism and this this path

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Speaker 2: that it's taking me down.

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Speaker 1: Well, Matt, I read where you were entertaining your times

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Speaker 1: where you muted the TV and you became a broadcaster

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Speaker 1: doing the games, calling the games. You know, is this

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Speaker 1: something you really wanted to do as a youngster.

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, I mean I just thought, gosh, this is

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Speaker 2: you know, I'll tilt my hand here a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I grew up a big Red Sox fan and I

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Speaker 2: That was a bit for me watching the Red Sox

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Speaker 2: is really interesting to me. And so that's that's part

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Speaker 1: Well, Matt, when you went to high school, you started

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Speaker 1: your own sports show. How did you do that? How

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Speaker 2: You know, I got really lucky. My one of my

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Speaker 1: That voice you hear in sports Phone KMBR is mattin Lively.

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Speaker 1: Of course, he's a sports anchor for Channel five CBS.

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Speaker 1: You moved on to ASU and from there you went

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Speaker 1: to Walter Cronkite School of Journalism. Those things are big

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Speaker 2: You know, I when I was in high school. It

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Speaker 2: sounds so nerdy now. I went to a sports journalism

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Speaker 2: And so I got there, and I from day one,

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Speaker 2: I just thought, I'm gonna soak up everything. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna find out, you know, do I want to

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Speaker 2: And so I tried everything, and it was just the

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Speaker 2: great honestly, the probably the best decision I've made in

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Speaker 2: my life up until this point was choosing to go

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Speaker 2: And I think today, when me is in a really

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Speaker 1: Well, Matt, you started getting into work. Now you ended

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Speaker 1: up going to Waco, Texas. You covered Baylor University, the

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean I really wanted to immerse myself

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Speaker 2: I wanted to experience a rabid fan base, you know,

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Speaker 2: And I got to just experience the sheer passion that

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Speaker 1: course you can watch him on Channel five works along

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Speaker 1: with Vernon Glenn, two great guys working together and covering sports.

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Speaker 1: So now you come out to San Francisco, you get

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers, and just recently you went down to Scottsdale,

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Speaker 2: And you know, so much has been made of can

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Speaker 2: But I wanted to get a sense for his personality,

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Speaker 2: how he interacted with the media, how is you know,

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Speaker 2: For me, it was what do these guys think about him?

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Speaker 2: And his play? You know, his players have rave reviews,

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Speaker 2: really quickly. From what it sounds like. He's got this

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Speaker 2: and I think that's really positive. I mean, I just

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Speaker 2: I I came away impressed with Tony Vytell. And I

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Speaker 2: know a lot's been made about you know, there was

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Speaker 2: that this guy loves his roots, loves where he came from,

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Speaker 2: And I think, you know, his love for the Giants

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Speaker 1: Oh, I totally agree with you and the misconception of

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of question marks and a lot of

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Speaker 1: give the guy a chance, and I think what he's

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Speaker 1: You had a chance to walk in that clubhouse, You

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Speaker 2: to phrase it. Harrison Bader and Drew Gilbert, you know,

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Speaker 2: I think that was a really cool thing to see.

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Speaker 2: It was like, Okay, everybody's invested in the same thing here.

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Speaker 2: that's what the Giants need. They need that healthy balance

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Speaker 1: Bo Davidson. You kind of paralleled him to Barry Bonds,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I was doing my prep to go

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Speaker 2: You know, one scout in particular said, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: the driving range Bill and you can tell when there's

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Speaker 2: I thought, that's interesting. Here's Buster Posey, here's Zach Mannassian,

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Speaker 2: And I thought, that's you know, that's pretty good sign

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Speaker 2: Bryce Aldridge. They've played together in the minor leagues, and

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Speaker 2: Bryce told me that he's you know, both of them

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Speaker 2: and so I think he's going to be one of

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Speaker 1: Well, Matt, as we finish up here, I'm glad you

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Speaker 1: threw the golf lesson in here because I understand you

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Speaker 1: always wanted to be a pro golfer, and you're pretty

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Speaker 1: damn good on the range and on the course. Tell

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Speaker 2: I mean, for someone that doesn't play sports professionally, is

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Speaker 2: there anything better than being on a golf course on

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Speaker 2: stan When I lived in Texas, I lived across from

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Speaker 2: just so busy. There's hardly a time to get out

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Speaker 2: Northern California. I've been trying to, you know, check check

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Speaker 2: them off the list, and so I'll continue doing that

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Speaker 2: even if the balls aren't flying straight.

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Speaker 1: Well, Matt, it was a pleasure getting to know you.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you it is finally listening to a little

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Speaker 1: bout your story and how you got here, and I

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Speaker 1: just want to wish you all the luck, and it's

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Speaker 1: a pleasure, pleasure. I keep saying this, but it was

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Speaker 1: fun talking to you today.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Bill, I appreciate you having me on.

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Speaker 1: That was Matt Lively on sports Phone KMBR more coming

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Speaker 1: up right here. I'm a sports leader.