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Speaker 1: Four hours, three faces, two Craigs, and one place to

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, there is no such thing

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Speaker 3: He is Papa in the Silver.

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Speaker 4: One pinch swinging. There's a drive down the right field

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Speaker 5: And it is off the bricks.

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Speaker 4: It goes towards center field on the carab coming around

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Speaker 4: third Romos, he'll score heading for third a rise He's

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Speaker 4: hides with a triple and the Giants have tied it.

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Speaker 5: Oh two. Soto strikes out swinging.

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Speaker 6: Wow, that that might end up being one of the

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Speaker 6: ugliest at bats of the year for Soto.

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Speaker 4: Swinging. There's a high drive and do deep left center

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Speaker 7: He leaps Harry Epello down over the three hundred and

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Speaker 6: It just would not come down. One ball to strike count.

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Speaker 8: The middle base head. He finally threw him a fastball

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Speaker 8: and Sue Sack was ready for him.

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Speaker 5: All the su Sacks now are just losing their.

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Speaker 4: Minds chedwell, shacks and throws. Hey struck him out swinging

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Speaker 4: the big Ricky wall again. And this one the Intos

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Speaker 4: could not lay off. And the Giants make it three

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Speaker 4: out of four this week, and they take Game one

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Speaker 4: from the Mets seven to two back of Robbie Ray.

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Speaker 2: I sworn for the Giants last night, seven too over

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Speaker 2: the Mets. And you heard the voices of John Miller

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Speaker 2: and Dave Fleming tell the story, and the voice of

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Speaker 2: Daniel Caesar right now in the background. It's a Daniel

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Speaker 2: day here on the Leader Sue Sack. How about that

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Speaker 2: in his first major league start, the big story, hitting

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Speaker 2: on base four times, going three for three. And my

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Speaker 2: favorite part, his nephew, love you little man. It is

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Speaker 2: Papa in silver with JD hanging out with you. We're

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Speaker 2: the next four hours getting you ready for a big weekend.

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Speaker 2: So JD, we can look forward to the weekend. Oh,

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Speaker 2: great work by young Tony right there. So we lived

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Speaker 2: the video. Oh my gosh, my little man. I love

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Speaker 2: I love the little man. I know you were out

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Speaker 5: What were your thoughts on that? We got two sides

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Speaker 2: Everyone's like child abuse, and then we got another half

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Speaker 2: the little guy, but he's gonna be all right, No chance,

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Speaker 2: it's child abuse.

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Speaker 9: Come on, everybody's having a good time. And what a

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Speaker 9: story that the young man. We'll be able to tell

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Speaker 9: in future years. Now, great to be with you, Happy Friday.

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Speaker 9: Things have certainly shifted from where we started the week

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Speaker 9: of good things arise, continues to be red hot, Devers

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Speaker 10: Now, I was all over it last night.

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Speaker 9: Had the had the multi screens going at Chase Center

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Speaker 9: getting ready for for Dubzot, had the had the Giants

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Speaker 9: on throughout the night on the phone, had a little

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Speaker 9: and the NHL playoffs, and then the Warriors fighting but losing.

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Speaker 9: We don't have to talk about them. Uh, Steph might

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Speaker 9: They've settled in here, Greg, They've settled in and you know,

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Speaker 10: None of that matters.

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Speaker 9: They've settled into what feels like a normal routine after

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Speaker 2: I think normalcy is a good word of the day

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Speaker 2: on Monday, I said, what frustrated you most about the sweep?

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Speaker 2: the past few seasons. Well, all flip the coin here

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Speaker 2: But I'm with you, none of that really matters in

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Speaker 2: or a different team, and so four five eight to eight,

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Speaker 5: But I just want to.

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Speaker 10: Just being a five hundred team.

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Speaker 9: You got to get back to five hundred first, which

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Speaker 2: It's Papa and Silver with JD on the sports Leader.

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Speaker 2: It's been really interesting to watch Tony v do his

437
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Speaker 2: thing this far.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think he knows he needs his main guys

439
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Speaker 9: if he's gonna have any shot for this thing to work,

440
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Speaker 9: and so it's not surprising to me that he is

441
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Speaker 9: you know, you know, keeping guys in the lineup, even

442
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Speaker 9: keeping guys in the same spot in the lineup for

443
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Speaker 9: a couple of days, although he has moved him around subtly,

444
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Speaker 9: which I think has been good.

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Speaker 10: But I just I think, again, we don't know the

446
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Speaker 10: answer to this.

447
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Speaker 9: My impression of Tony would have been that he at

448
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Speaker 9: heart is more of a tinkerer than a steady Eddy

449
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Speaker 9: in terms of keeping things the same. But I think

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Speaker 9: there's an understanding of the situation, with his lack of

451
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Speaker 9: you know, major league baseball managerial experience, that the veterans

452
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Speaker 9: and the guys that he really needs to lead in

453
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Speaker 9: this clubhouse have to believe that he's got their back.

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Speaker 10: And so even if he is maybe at.

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Speaker 9: Heart more of a tinkerer, there are certain guys that

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Speaker 9: that maybe you you can't tinker with UH as much.

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Speaker 10: And I think to this point he hasn't done that.

458
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Speaker 9: And you're trusting basically that you're gonna win enough and

459
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Speaker 9: that those guys are going to perform well enough to

460
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Speaker 9: where you can continue that for as long as possible

461
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Speaker 9: before you know, maybe some struggle set in and you

462
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Speaker 9: have to look to to go in a different direction.

463
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Speaker 9: And again it's it's always you want the guys to

464
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Speaker 9: prove on the field that they can't get the job done,

465
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Speaker 9: and and really prove that they can't get the job

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Speaker 9: done before you start to, you know, look to to

467
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Speaker 9: make moves that that can be considered, you know, quickly reactionary.

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Speaker 10: I mean that I go back to to Bruce Bouchie.

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Speaker 9: Uh. I mean he would, and it would frustrate the fans,

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Speaker 9: like Bruce Bochie would stick with his guys and stick

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Speaker 9: with them early in the season and then you know,

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Speaker 9: stick with them for another week after everybody else was was,

473
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Speaker 9: you know, two weeks beyond all right, it's time to

474
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Speaker 9: make a change.

475
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Speaker 10: But he would.

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Speaker 9: I think players knew when Boachie would make a change

477
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Speaker 9: eventually that he gave them every opportunity to continue to

478
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Speaker 9: hold that spot and then so right to where you're

479
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Speaker 9: you know, you almost can't you can't be upset about it.

480
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Speaker 9: And then you go in, you do the work, you

481
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Speaker 9: try to get, you try to improve and and and

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Speaker 9: get back in there. And that was the other thing

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Speaker 9: that you know, Boach you would always do when it

484
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Speaker 9: got to that point, is he would give those guys

485
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Speaker 9: that maybe he went away from another opportunity in another

486
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Speaker 9: role to kind of earn.

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Speaker 10: Their spot back.

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Speaker 9: And so often we saw struggling players who had been

489
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Speaker 9: taken out of you know, regular play come back in

490
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Speaker 9: some big spots and still be able to be productive players.

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Speaker 10: Again, we don't know about Tony Vaitello and and you know,

492
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Speaker 10: is he this?

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Speaker 4: Is he that?

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Speaker 11: Uh?

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Speaker 9: But I do think that the early returns in terms

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Speaker 9: of him acknowledging and really understanding I think the room

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Speaker 9: that he's in with some of the steadiness, while to

498
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Speaker 9: your point, also kind of tinkering in some different ways

499
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Speaker 9: that maybe aren't going to be offensive to some of

500
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Speaker 9: the guys that he really needs, but can help this

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Speaker 9: team win.

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Speaker 10: I'm with you.

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Speaker 9: It has been kind of a fascinating to watch here

504
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Speaker 9: as we learn April is about learning you know what

505
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Speaker 9: this team is about. What's Tony Vitello about settling in,

506
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Speaker 9: what are the strengths, what are the weaknesses? And so yeah,

507
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Speaker 9: we're getting we're getting a little bit more of a

508
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Speaker 9: tell here game by game well.

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Speaker 5: And with learning in minds.

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Speaker 2: What's your number one takeaway out there at eight to

511
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Speaker 2: eight K and BR that you've seen over this week

512
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Speaker 2: winning three out of four your primary takeaway that you're

513
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Speaker 2: gathering as information because I think that for us on Monday,

514
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 2: it wasn't the Giant season is cooked because they're zero

515
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Speaker 2: and three. It's a lot of the frustrations and why

516
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Speaker 2: they lost to the Yankees matched up with some of

517
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Speaker 2: the frustrations when it looked like bad versions of Giants

518
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Speaker 2: baseball in years past. It was more of the same

519
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Speaker 2: with a lot of different faces. That was a big takeaway,

520
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Speaker 2: not saying it was going to be the thing of

521
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Speaker 2: the season. What's our new takeaway for this week now

522
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Speaker 2: that they've won three out of four. I'll also tell

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Speaker 2: you it is our last day of the week for

524
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Speaker 2: our giveaway. That's two tickets to see Weezer, the Shins

525
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Speaker 2: and the Silver Sun pickups. That's going to be September ninth,

526
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Speaker 2: right here at Chase Center where you can see the

527
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Speaker 2: Valkyries if you're watching us on YouTube and Twitch shut

528
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Speaker 2: to the Valkyries Giants Jersey. I gotta say I like

529
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Speaker 2: this collab in person a lot more than I did

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Speaker 2: through a screen. Color's kind of working for me. Dial

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Speaker 2: four one five eight nine six five six two seven.

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Speaker 2: When we give the Q to call sometime later in

533
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Speaker 2: the show before one pm. Tickets go on sale right now.

534
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 2: They did about a half an hour ago, but you

535
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Speaker 2: got a chance to get it for free again. That's Weezer,

536
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Speaker 2: the Shins and the Silver Sun pickups September the ninth,

537
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Speaker 2: And when I give you that cue to call, dial

538
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Speaker 2: four one five eight nine six five six two seven,

539
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Speaker 2: and you will win. Let's get back to it with

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Speaker 2: your calls, your texts, your thoughts after this. On The

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Speaker 2: Sports Leader, Craig and Greg, Copy and Silver. This is

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Speaker 2: K the Sports Leader. Happy Friday, everybody. It is Papa

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00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 2: and Silver JD hanging out with us. We got Walter

544
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Speaker 2: in the house after a nice day off, so no

545
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Speaker 2: excuses today. He's got to feel fully refreshed and energize.

546
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Speaker 2: But guess what he is going to be responsible for?

547
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 2: Our contest giveaway, which I just tease so he'll take

548
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Speaker 2: carry out at some point between now and one o'clock.

549
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Speaker 2: We're asking about reactions and takeaways as we continue to learn,

550
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Speaker 2: because JD said it, April is all about learning in baseball,

551
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Speaker 2: and what we learned after that first weekend is the

552
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Speaker 2: Yankees are damn good. They got some good pitching, and

553
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Speaker 2: also the Giants and the struggles at the plate that

554
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Speaker 2: happened at Oracle Park was something that all felt like

555
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Speaker 2: a nightmare. We've lived too many times not being able

556
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Speaker 2: to hit lefties a bummer. Then they go down to

557
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Speaker 2: San Diego, they get Tony Votello's first win, they win

558
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Speaker 2: this series against the Padres, taking advantage of another team

559
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Speaker 2: that's gotten off to a slow start. And now the

560
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Speaker 2: Mets come into town and they're able to take the

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Speaker 2: first out of four. So we could be looking at

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Speaker 2: a real opportunity tonight to already secure a split and

563
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Speaker 2: maybe have hopes to get three out of four before

564
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Speaker 2: the Phillies come into town, so we can get ahead

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Speaker 2: of ourselves all we want. That's kind of the nature

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Speaker 2: of a baseball season when you get something new every

567
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Speaker 2: single day. Four oh eight chimes in and says the

568
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Speaker 2: takeaway JD is that the pitching looks great, lineup looks

569
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Speaker 2: great on paper, but has been inconsistent. If they can

570
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Speaker 2: both get on the same page at the same time,

571
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Speaker 2: this could be a ninety win team. And then the

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Speaker 2: last takeaway added is I'm digging Tony V's vibe and

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Speaker 2: FDF and Dodgers pretty good message.

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Speaker 5: I'd say, yeah, yeah, always that.

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Speaker 9: And I am watching the Dodgers, who gave up an

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Speaker 9: early three spot to the Nationals in the NATS home

577
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Speaker 9: opener as they're playing in DC.

578
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Speaker 10: Still having some home openers today.

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Speaker 9: The Yankees are playing against Miami in a game that's

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Speaker 9: coming up here in a couple of minutes. Saint Louis

581
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Speaker 9: is in Ditrich roight as well. The Red Sox are

582
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Speaker 9: going to take on the Padres. So I love these Fridays,

583
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Speaker 9: uh And and you know days during the week where

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Speaker 9: you get, uh some of these openers, uh for for

585
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Speaker 9: you know, every team kind of going through. The Giants

586
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 9: had the weird one against the Yankees last week on

587
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Speaker 9: the Wednesday, and then the secondary opening day and uh,

588
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 9: you know, things feeling a little bit normal. But yeah,

589
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 9: teams trying to get acclimated to their their openers. But no,

590
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 9: I think that you know, we talked about the fact

591
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Speaker 9: that that Tony and the Giants needed to get out

592
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Speaker 9: of the spotlight a little bit, and and I I

593
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Speaker 9: think they've been able to do that in just I

594
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 9: think the early road series, even though it was only

595
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Speaker 9: the one series, and you know, not having to continue

596
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Speaker 9: to to maybe be around the home you know, the

597
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Speaker 9: home media and kind of the circus that surrounded uh.

598
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Speaker 9: I think, you know, the anticipation of the Tony Vitello

599
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Speaker 9: era and and even the Yankees I think bring an

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Speaker 9: extra level of you know, all their media and different things.

601
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Speaker 9: So I think even just getting down to San Diego,

602
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Speaker 9: even though San Diego is a team that's that's really

603
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 9: put it to the Giants, you know, last year, in

604
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 9: the last couple of years, it's just it had to

605
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 9: be much more of a normal refreshing environment to you know,

606
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 9: get down there, play two night games, play a day game,

607
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 9: start to get into the regular routine, and then come

608
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Speaker 9: right back and almost start the thing over at home

609
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Speaker 9: last night against the Mets, and you know, Giants go

610
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Speaker 9: down early and then bounce right back like That's something

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Speaker 9: that I think you know, from from an individual, you

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Speaker 9: know standpoint is is impressive because we really haven't seen

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Speaker 9: that in in you know, any of these other games

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Speaker 9: where they get down and immediately kind of answer they

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Speaker 9: get down, they stayed down.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 9: Big issue for the Giants last year was the inability

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Speaker 9: to score runs early in the game, right like they

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Speaker 9: would get better as the game go on, and they

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Speaker 9: had a bunch of comebacks late, especially early in the season.

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Speaker 9: But that, you know, the ability to answer when a

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Speaker 9: team gets an early run on you and not have

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Speaker 9: it stemy and till the fourth or the fifth inning,

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Speaker 9: I think is important too. But yeah, I think Vitello's

625
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Speaker 9: settling in and I think this team is settling in

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Speaker 9: and we're getting a better picture of what they can

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Speaker 9: be on the days where they're you know, what their

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Speaker 9: strengths are. I think we know what their weaknesses are,

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Speaker 9: but I think we're getting a better idea of what

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Speaker 9: their strengths are and they're a little bit more aligned

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Speaker 9: with I think what the optimistic view of this team

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Speaker 9: going into the season would would be.

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Speaker 2: Well, when I did Keys to the game for our

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Speaker 2: Diamond Notes on Wednesday, for that day game in San Diego,

635
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Speaker 2: I put score first because I was thinking about the

636
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Speaker 2: ways in which they won the games, jumping out to

637
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Speaker 2: the lead, and even the first one they won when

638
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Speaker 2: it was three to two, they didn't actually get a

639
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Speaker 2: ton of offense.

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Speaker 5: They got the better home run, they got six total.

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Speaker 2: Hits, but really it was the pitching in the bullpen's

642
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Speaker 2: first big test that was able to shut them down,

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Speaker 2: and Ryan Walker used every ounce of margin for era

644
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Speaker 2: that he had there in the ninth. But then they

645
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Speaker 2: had the sixteen hit outburst and they were able to

646
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Speaker 2: throw that first punch and then extend the lead that forward.

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Speaker 2: If you think about the Getaway game on Wednesday, they

648
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Speaker 2: did not score first in the first two runs for

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Speaker 2: a while after five innings were both coming off errors

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Speaker 2: between Matt Chapman trying to throw it to Casey Schmidt,

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Speaker 2: and I think the final scorer showed that the game

652
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Speaker 2: looked a little bit more lobsided than it felt.

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Speaker 5: For the most part, Jose Bouteau, who now has headed to.

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Speaker 2: The IL, ended up having some arm titaness facing eight batters,

655
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: couldn't find the zone, only got one guy out. But

656
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: for the most part it was a pretty close game,

657
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: and Nick Paveta was a tough task with that high fastball.

658
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 5: For the Giants lineup.

659
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: So another observation I've got of this and where you

660
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: talk about the optimism, I think we got to see

661
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: the optimistic side and the upside of this lineup in

662
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: the sense that we've now focused so much, particularly the

663
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: last season. Right if Ray was out there and if

664
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 2: Webb was out there, your two all stars, it's like, Okay,

665
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: this is a game that you gotta win. And on

666
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: top of that, they got to perform like all stars,

667
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 2: and Web's got to be a guy like an ace. Well,

668
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 2: neither one of them was poor in their recent outings,

669
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: but they certainly had early imperfections. And to see the

670
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: offense pick it up in a way where it didn't

671
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: cost the team the game. Just because Web didn't pitch

672
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: like an ace and a cy young candidate and Ray

673
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 2: wasn't nails through six innings and gave up a run

674
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 2: in the first inning and then a second one in

675
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: the next inning. That's a big relief when you have

676
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: those guys out there and they're still trying to find

677
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: their groove. To have the offense be able to pick

678
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: them up, I think that's a big, big deal. When

679
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: we've talked about the struggles of the Giants lineup where

680
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: talk about opening night right like that one got away

681
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: from logan Web. But if you think about a week

682
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 2: ago today when we're out there on the field, the

683
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: Giants got one hit and Robbie Ray had one mistake

684
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 2: to Aaron Judge, who will make pitchers pay even the

685
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: good ones, and that felt like the game was over.

686
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: That has not been the case. When you've looked at

687
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: the offense and the way they've turned it around this.

688
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 9: Week, well, yeah, it hasn't necessarily this week, but they've

689
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 9: also done a nice job of mostly getting ahead. Like

690
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 9: the sweet spot for logan Web to be his best

691
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 9: version of himself is to get him some early runs

692
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 9: which allows him to give up some runs but still

693
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 9: be ahead, and then do like he in the fourth

694
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 9: and the fifth innings and then I'll eventually pitch the

695
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 9: six the other night, but just really bear down, kind

696
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 9: of get kind of get ticked at himself on the

697
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 9: mound and know that he's going through it. But also no,

698
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 9: you know, on another night, that's another frustrating logan Web start.

699
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 9: Right if the Giants don't get off to a lead

700
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 9: and he gives up the three and you're down three

701
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 9: to three to one or three nothing, and then you know,

702
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 9: maybe the Padres tack another one on, like on a

703
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 9: night where the Giants don't hit, that becomes I think,

704
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 9: another frustrating logan Web outing. But because they were able

705
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 9: to give him the lead and allow him to work

706
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Speaker 9: through and not have to be dominant, like logan Web

707
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 9: on a bad night is very good at getting you

708
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 9: through six and give it up three. Yeah, the problem is,

709
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 9: you know, to your point, the Giants haven't won a

710
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 9: ton of those games when logan Web has that that

711
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 9: sort of stat line, and logan Web in particular hasn't

712
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 9: earned the wins in a lot of those games because

713
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Speaker 9: he would often leave behind and obviously not be able

714
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Speaker 9: to qualify. So I think, you know, it starts with

715
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 9: getting ahead and given the pitchers a little bit more

716
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 9: of the breathing room. You know, the Mets started off

717
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 9: with the lead last night, but the Giants bounce back,

718
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 9: they get the lead, they add on and then give

719
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 9: Robbie Ray sort of that second opportunity, even though maybe

720
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 9: he didn't have his best start or his best stuff

721
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 9: to be able to get through you know, the fourth

722
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 9: and the and the fifth innings and have his best innings.

723
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 9: I thought his best inning was the fifth inning. Uh,

724
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 9: but they scored some runs, so it allowed him to

725
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 9: battle through. He's still really talented, and and then he

726
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 9: winds up. He winds up earned a win even though

727
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 9: he didn't necessarily have his his best stuff, even compared

728
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 9: to the game against the Yankees. He pitched better against

729
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 9: the Yankees than he did last night, But because they

730
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 9: were able to get him the lead, he was able

731
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 9: to hunker down and lock in and earn himself a

732
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 9: win and and you know, seize control of the game.

733
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 10: That's what he and web both did.

734
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 9: They seized control of the game in those fourth and

735
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 9: fifth innings with the lead, and and that was, you know,

736
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 9: more than enough to guide the Giants to victory five.

737
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 5: Three zero on the Golden State Lumber and Showroom.

738
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 2: Text line brings up something that was in astute observation

739
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 2: of mine last night, that we haven't brought it up

740
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: just yet. So the score was three to two, and

741
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: just like that it got to five to two. Bases loaded,

742
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 2: no outs, sackfly, sackfly. Those are productive outs, they are

743
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 2: proper outs. And I can hear Papa right now going,

744
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 2: the SF on the hat stands for sack fly.

745
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 10: John.

746
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 9: One of the first things I mentioned in the in

747
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 9: the in my opening riff, which I I it was,

748
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 9: was the situational hitting a couple of couple of sacrifice

749
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 9: flies to help pad the lead.

750
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 10: Uh, and that that is something that was lacking, and

751
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 10: that is.

752
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 9: Something that if this team does perform offensively at a

753
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 9: higher level and can continue to yeah, make make you

754
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 9: know the SF stand for sackfly on the on the

755
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 9: front of the hat. That is going to be one

756
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 9: thing specifically that Tony Vaitello and staff are going to

757
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 9: get credit for because it's something that prior iterations of

758
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 9: this Giants team have not been good at. And so

759
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 9: I sort of noted that as a Vitello Plus column

760
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 9: you know member for this week.

761
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look, basis loaded, No ou, it's Walter.

762
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: How many times have we seen it where it's strikeout,

763
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 2: ground into double play, strike out, pop up, pop up,

764
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: just some kind of terrible combination of that. Got to say,

765
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 2: productive outs, get two more runs, get it back to

766
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 2: where Robbie Ray has a little more breathing room. Very

767
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 2: refreshing to see. I think five to three zo hit

768
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: the nail on the head, So we'll keep this going.

769
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: Eight oh eight K and BR is the number to

770
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 2: join the conversation. Huge weekend ahead, and we got so

771
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 2: much to get into over the course of the four hours,

772
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 2: obviously focusing on the Giants getting that seven to two

773
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 2: win and Daniel Sussac's big night to begin But just

774
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,479
Speaker 2: like that, dude, the Sharks right back there holding onto

775
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 2: a wild card spot and they got a big one

776
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 2: against the Predators this weekend. And as for the Warriors

777
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: goes yeah, I mean they lost short handed last night,

778
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: but the long anticipated return of Steph Curry. All plans

779
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 2: are to have that happen on Sunday, So I know,

780
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 2: with my dubzot guy right here, that's something that you

781
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 2: the Chat and Kyle Harr have been waiting for for

782
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: a while.

783
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 10: We're looking forward to it. Yeah.

784
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 9: I'm gonna be at the Shark Tank tomorrow checking out,

785
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 9: checking out the sharkis and the big one against Nashville

786
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 9: gonna be out there on Wednesday, kind of making the

787
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 9: rounds this week. It'll be at Oracle Park over the weekend,

788
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 9: possibly tonight, and Sunday gonna be over at Chase. As

789
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 9: I was last night and Sunday heading down to the

790
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 9: Shark Tank. A couple of times. I make the rounds, man,

791
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 9: I don't discriminate, get I get everywhere in Bay Area

792
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 9: sports to keep tabs on what's going on and keep

793
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 9: tabs on the vibe. So yeah, looking forward to it's

794
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 9: gonna be a busy weekend, a fun weekend, but yeah,

795
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 9: a lot to get into here. Hopefully Steph can can

796
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 9: come back and we'll see if the Sharkis can keep

797
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 9: it going. They are being willed, I feel like by

798
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 9: their nineteen year old phenom to have this one last

799
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 9: gasp that's beyond a gasp at this point.

800
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 10: I mean, they're they're right there, They've got a shot.

801
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 9: It's funny I didn't and I know we're up against it,

802
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 9: Like people gave up on them, Like I know it

803
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 9: was they were what seven points down after they got

804
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 9: beat by Nashville.

805
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, but they had a couple of games in hand,

806
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 10: and it just I don't know.

807
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 9: I feel like a little bit of a little bit

808
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 9: of shame on the on the people that that thought

809
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 9: that the run was over a little bit prematurely. That

810
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 9: that's one thing that does drive me nuts when people

811
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 9: give up on like, oh it was fun, January was fun.

812
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 9: Backlan's great. Oh it's over. It's like there was still

813
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 9: games to win, you know, especially when you have games

814
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 9: in hand still to be played, and then you look

815
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 9: up and obviously you got to win them all to

816
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 9: make that happen. And and they're on a on a

817
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 9: streak now here. That started with the finale on the

818
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 9: road and even the overtime point in the second game

819
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 9: of the road trip. But yeah, they're they got it dialed,

820
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 9: they got a shot, and the energy. These next handful

821
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 9: of games at home are gonna be gonna be epic

822
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 9: down at the tank.

823
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 2: I don't have the numbers in front of me. Oh actually,

824
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: I just got it from Josh Doubao. So this came

825
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 2: out a couple of days ago, so now it's outdated.

826
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 2: Check this out. So when Macklin Celebrini had zero points,

827
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 2: the Sharks were one, fifteen and three. When Macklin Celebrini

828
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 2: had at least one point, they were thirty four, sixteen

829
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 2: and four, and then when he had two plus points,

830
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: they were twenty four, three and one. He didn't have

831
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: one last night, and they still got the win for

832
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 2: one over Toronto. That was a crazy takeaway when I

833
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 2: considered the numbers there from josh Ubao, and.

834
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 9: I got to tell you, props to the Sharks last

835
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 9: night for putting a few in the net before the

836
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 9: fourth period. Props to them for being able to get

837
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 9: it done before the fourth period.

838
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Speaker 2: Oh Adam Copeland with a cameo appearance here on Papa

839
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Speaker 2: and Silver. We'll continue this discussion with JD when we

840
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Speaker 4: Pitches swing and there's a high drive and do deep

846
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 4: left cetter that goes Luise Robert at the wonting drunk

847
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 4: at the Walley leaps.

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Speaker 7: How do you spello time over the three hundred and

849
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Speaker 7: ninety nine foot marker.

850
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Speaker 5: It just would not come down.

851
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 4: Seven to two Giants and Devers gets his first home

852
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 4: run of the year.

853
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, we saw some things last night that didn't seem

854
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: all that foreign. Rafaelle Devers hitting a home run. Willie

855
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 2: and Domis dumping the gatorade on Daniel Sussak after the game,

856
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 2: and poor Kylon Mills sent her laptop just getting absolutely drenched.

857
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 5: Was great to have her on the show yesterday.

858
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Speaker 2: But as far as Devers goes, you know, JD, I

859
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: was thinking about the discussion we had earlier in the

860
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Speaker 2: week with Waltz and about what a power hitter is

861
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 2: Rafaeld Devers. Yeah, he's been able to get some hits.

862
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: We haven't really seen the power much on display, and

863
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: we know about the hamstring and why he hasn't really

864
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 2: been able to play first base to this point. But

865
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: last night in a night game in Oracle Park and

866
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: those elements to effectively just hit a fly ball that's

867
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 2: not going to come down and go slight opposite field,

868
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: I mean, that was another reminder of what you traded

869
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 2: for and why he brings this lineup something that you

870
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 2: don't have anywhere else on your roster, and a lot

871
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 2: of teams might not even have period.

872
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 10: The one thing that.

873
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 9: I'm not worried about for the Giants this season is

874
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 9: Raphael Dever's ability to contribute and to hit, specifically he's

875
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 9: gonna hit, and having Devers around for a full season

876
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 9: as opposed to a little bit more than a half

877
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 9: season when they acquired him back in the middle of

878
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 9: June last season, is going to be a great benefit

879
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 9: to this team in terms of their run production. I

880
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 9: thought last night, you know, it is interesting. I know,

881
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 9: it was cooler. The ball was carrying last night and

882
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 9: you know, kind of get it up into that jet

883
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 9: stream a little bit. It wasn't the typical Oracle Park

884
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 9: night game, at least it didn't seem to be from

885
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 9: from watching on television. It seemed like there was a

886
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 9: little bit more of a jet stream where the ball

887
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 9: was kind of blowing out, and Devers was able to

888
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 9: get that one up into that jet stream and get

889
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 9: it out. Regardless though for a lefty hitter to go,

890
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 9: you know, to go the other way to that extent,

891
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 9: you know, to that deep left center part of the ballpark,

892
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 9: is an impressive, impressive amount of power being shown. Whether

893
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 9: he was aided a little bit by a jet stream

894
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 9: that that I think a lot of times knocks those

895
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 9: balls down in front of the wall as opposed to

896
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 9: carries them over the wall. But last night it sure

897
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 9: looked like the ball was carrying inside Oracle Park to

898
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 9: an extent that you don't typically see on a lot

899
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 9: of night games.

900
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: Let's hear from Tony Vicello as well, because Field Devers.

901
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 5: Did hit that homer.

902
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 2: Then we also got the strangeness of the unicorn mask

903
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: that he did not keep on long in the lineup.

904
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 2: But Tony Vitello, a very engaging guy, will say what's

905
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 2: on his mind and even went into the world of

906
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 2: golf and then had to kind of stop in his

907
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: own tracks. This is Tony on Raphaeld Devers after the game.

908
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 12: Yeah, I didn't know what was going on behind me.

909
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 12: I'm not a privy to any of those conversations, and

910
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 12: it was very loose in that moment. But I think

911
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 12: just when he's up the bat, you got a guy

912
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 12: that everybody loves cheering for, and he's one of many

913
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 12: in the lineup. But I think it's consistently loose when

914
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 12: he's hitting, regardless of how the bat goes. And then

915
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 12: Raffie I mentioned golf. You know, Tiger Oh, I guess

916
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 12: bad timing.

917
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 7: I I don't want.

918
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 12: All right, let's just say this, Raffie's pretty good about

919
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 12: getting Like other athletes in the past when things were

920
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 12: going good, Raffie's pretty good about getting fired up at

921
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 12: himself and then calm and think, now, I'm pretty quick,

922
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 12: so say, from the first seven eight seconds after a

923
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 12: bad at bat Raffi's always a guy that kind of

924
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 12: keeps things light hearted and keeps the other guys involved

925
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 12: in cheering for him. But he took it to the

926
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 12: max there as far as tonight goes.

927
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 2: So we'll get back to the Rafael Tevers discussion. But

928
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 2: you got to just say, you know, for Tony Viitz Hello,

929
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: for someone to be as honest and open as he is,

930
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 2: that's great for the beat writers. That's great for people

931
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 2: like us who are just trying to do our jobs.

932
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 2: God bless Tony v with the communication.

933
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 4: Man.

934
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I again, I didn't I don't want

935
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 9: to skew negative on it. I didn't see anything all

936
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 9: that I keep coming back to, And I mean, like

937
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 9: he's an interesting guy. I don't feel and again I'm

938
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 9: maybe I'm in the minority here, and I don't want

939
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 9: to turn this into some kind of a rant.

940
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 10: I don't think.

941
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 9: He's all that interesting by comparison, Like I think he's

942
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 9: doing a solid job, but it's like, oh, oh, kind

943
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 9: of made a half tiger joke, but didn't like I again,

944
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 9: I don't know, I don't I'm not gonna rant about it,

945
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 9: but and you know, expansive answers are typically good ones,

946
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 9: especially I mean, I was sort of more focused on

947
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 9: the Devers part of it than the oh he dropped

948
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 9: the Tiger reference and and Tiger got arrested and Tiger's

949
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 9: having problems, and then like laugh.

950
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 10: And shook it off like I again, it's not a negative.

951
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 9: I don't want to act like I'm crushing I just

952
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 9: didn't really care to be honest about that. It was

953
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 9: more about it was more about the Dever's component and

954
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 9: how Devers conducts himself and how Devers can be hard

955
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 9: on himself and then and then sort of.

956
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 10: Lighten the mood.

957
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 9: But I do think we're all kind of going out

958
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 9: of our way to like, you know, Tony, you know

959
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 9: the good, the bad. He's interesting, he's not interesting. It's like,

960
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 9: let's just there's just a lot of manage and be himself,

961
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 9: and you know there's gonna be moments and you know

962
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 9: that are gonna be good and are gonna be bad,

963
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 9: and and let's all go into it with.

964
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 10: A with a clear head.

965
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: Now, the word that I took away mostly from the cut,

966
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 2: aside from whatever humor might have found in the Tiger situation. Whatever,

967
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 2: it's just he's talking about the dugout being looser, and

968
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 2: the whole vibe around this team right now is a

969
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: little bit looser. And you touched on this in the

970
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 2: opening segment of just everyone's kind of settled down. There's

971
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 2: a little bit more normalcy to the team right now.

972
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 2: So yes, if the first weekend was not going to

973
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 2: draw conclusions about the season, then we're not gonna do

974
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: it after a really productive week. But it is nice

975
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: after all the intensity and the microscope and examining everything,

976
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 2: and oh they're also zero and three. Look there were

977
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: three and four baseball team a week into the season.

978
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 2: I don't think that we need to make some kind

979
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: of big deal of like everything is fixed and turn around.

980
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 2: But when you have a night like last night where

981
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: you're kind of exercising some of those demons off you

982
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 2: can't hit against lefties, it's hard when the other team

983
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 2: goes and scores first. Rafael Devers, you invested a lot

984
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: in you took on that contract, and if he's not

985
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 2: gonna be hitting homers, then no hitter.

986
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 5: Is ever gonna want to come to Oracle Park.

987
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 2: It's more just the general theme of, like everyone's a

988
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 2: little bit looser when you win three out of four,

989
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 2: you can crack some jokes or make some comments that

990
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 2: people are just gonna have more fun with and you know,

991
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 2: all Sussac and the nephew and that all that aside.

992
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 2: Like generally, it has just been a lot more calmed

993
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 2: down after a really, really tense start to the week

994
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 2: and they finally were able to get one at home.

995
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: Raw Field's ever hitting at home or was just a

996
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 2: cherry on top and another reminder that that's why you

997
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 2: trade for a bat like that and take on a

998
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: contract like that, even if the results have been more

999
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 2: or less mixed at times since he's been in the bay.

1000
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 10: Well, and they needed it, I mean, let's just be

1001
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 10: real about it. They needed it.

1002
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 9: And look, you get credit for showing the ability to

1003
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 9: kind of bounce back off of a tough start. And

1004
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 9: that's the one thing that I will you know, give

1005
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 9: Vitello and staff and the players everybody involved, is you know,

1006
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 9: they were in a danger zone when we came on

1007
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 9: the air here on Monday, and I was in studio

1008
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 9: with you in Daily City and they were zero and

1009
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 9: three off of a rough weekend, like they had to

1010
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 9: get it going. They needed a series win in the

1011
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 9: first game of the next series, like they needed a

1012
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 9: three out of four go in the other direction to

1013
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 9: help just kind of calm everything down.

1014
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 10: And they've they've been able to get it again.

1015
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 9: Get the other thing I will say about Tony to

1016
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 9: this point, I thought it was a little overblown some

1017
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 9: of the stuff over the weekend, going back to last

1018
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 9: weekend about he didn't use his bench and he kept

1019
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 9: the same guys in there and he like I thought

1020
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 9: there was a little too much made of maybe, you know,

1021
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 9: some of the moves he didn't make in that in

1022
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 9: that first series. But I think you got to give

1023
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 9: him credit for showing patients and then not showing patients right,

1024
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 9: being willing to tinker the lineup, you know, being willing

1025
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 9: to go a little bit more unconventional by dropping a

1026
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 9: Rise down, dropping Ramos down, then bringing Ramos back up

1027
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 9: in the lineup, going up against a lefty because historically

1028
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 9: Ramos has hit left handed pitching well, so that there

1029
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 9: are some subtleties. I think the Giants approach at the

1030
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 9: plate has been better, Uh, and and maybe some of

1031
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 9: it is the pitching that they faced in San Diego

1032
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 9: in particular. You know, Walker Bueller is not the Walker

1033
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 9: Buehler that was dominant, you know, going back to the

1034
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 9: early part of this decade and the end of the

1035
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 9: prior decade with with the Dodgers. Marquez is somebody that

1036
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 9: the Giants have hit a ton in his time with

1037
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 9: with Colorado.

1038
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:11,439
Speaker 10: But again, who cares.

1039
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 9: Like the approach was better and they were doing damage

1040
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 9: and they were getting on those guys enough to be

1041
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 9: able to to put some runs on the board and

1042
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 9: get off to uh you know, get off to leads

1043
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 9: that that they were able to carry through. So I

1044
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 9: I give them credit for just kind of holding it

1045
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 9: together because I do think because of the newness of

1046
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 9: Vitello uh and and and the microscope around his his

1047
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 9: every move, his every quote is you know, all of

1048
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 9: that stuff. To get everything calm down and feeling normal

1049
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 9: as quickly as possible after a pretty brutal start at

1050
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 9: zher to three, it gives this season a chance in

1051
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 9: a in a major way. Uh And So I think

1052
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 9: you you know, you got to give them credit for

1053
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 9: for you know, just the calmness with the with the

1054
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 9: with the good vibes, right, Like the good vibes pop

1055
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 9: back immediately once team started winning, and I think, you know,

1056
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,479
Speaker 9: whether it's the beer shower for Vitello's first win, whether

1057
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 9: it's the gatorade shower, or it's it's Daniel Sussak and

1058
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 9: the family, like all of that stuff, Like, the vibes

1059
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 9: are back, and the vibes are back even in the

1060
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 9: midst of you know, spending the better part of yesterday

1061
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 9: talking about the the Chapman Schmidt. You know, it'sident in

1062
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 9: terms of you know, catch the bleep and ball and

1063
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 9: all of that. So I think this team's you know,

1064
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 9: they're they're starting to build. I think a little bit

1065
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 9: more of a of an identity.

1066
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 2: Well, you know when you talk about the catch the

1067
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: bleeping ball in the day game, I was going into

1068
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 2: that thinking it was gonna be hard to walk away

1069
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 2: with a sweep. And part of why I had the

1070
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 2: key of scoring first is you didn't want to have

1071
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 2: to deal with Mason Miller at the end of the game. Now,

1072
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 2: because your own bullpen had its gaps, that part in

1073
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 2: particular didn't really matter.

1074
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 5: But the way they were able to bounce back.

1075
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 2: You can all look at it in the context of like, okay,

1076
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 2: they did take advantage of some subpar pitching when they

1077
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 2: really needed those matchups timing wise, to just get something going.

1078
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 2: Check the box of the first home run, check the

1079
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 2: box of getting the first win of the season, getting

1080
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 2: a series on the road within your division, like they

1081
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 2: were able to check a lot of boxes, and then

1082
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 2: you know, walking away on Wednesday. The one thing that

1083
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 2: we did not do yesterday Kruge and I was overreact

1084
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 2: to the fact that they lost that game and Jose

1085
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 2: Bhutau in the arm fatigue and oh this is bad

1086
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 2: for the bullpen.

1087
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 5: Like, no, they took the series. That was ultimately the goal.

1088
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,439
Speaker 2: Because we said it on Monday, what was the most

1089
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 2: likely outcome for that series going to San Diego, It

1090
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 2: was probably.

1091
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 5: Taken one out of three.

1092
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 2: You did your job by going and taking that series

1093
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 2: so to not have the getaway game where you struck

1094
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: out fourteen times, everybody not named Luisa Rayes got one hit,

1095
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 2: you scored one run, and on top of that, you

1096
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 2: had the Matt Chapman moment get caught on the screen.

1097
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 2: To have that all get washed away the next night

1098
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 2: when you could get back home and reset. I think

1099
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: that does a lot for you too, in just calming

1100
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: down some of the noise, because that's the atmosphere that

1101
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 2: we live in today, where noise can get out real quick.

1102
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 2: I mean, look, dude, if this was nineteen eighty, nobody

1103
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 2: knows about the Chapman thing. There's no Twitter, there's no

1104
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 2: spreading it around. We don't have to do the constant

1105
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 2: media availability where you can consume it so quickly. Then

1106
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 2: it was like a little bit of a thing. And

1107
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: then it's like, you know what, Casey Schmidt was able

1108
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 2: to catch the damn ball and make a nice double play.

1109
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 2: Not saying he's the ultimate long term solution at first base,

1110
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 2: but he can do it adequately enough until Rafael Devers

1111
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 2: is ready to go, and maybe eventually at some point

1112
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 2: you get a chance to seeing Bryce Aldridge there too.

1113
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 9: Eight oh eight kmb are four one five eight oh

1114
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 9: eight five six two seven to jump in and join

1115
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 9: the conversation again. We're a week into this thing, a

1116
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 9: little bit more than a week, I think, you know,

1117
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 9: to kind of drive the conversation.

1118
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 10: Things are better.

1119
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 9: Winning three of the last four, we're starting to see

1120
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 9: a little bit of what this team looks like when

1121
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 9: they win while also acknowledging that we've gotten a glimpse

1122
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 9: at maybe what it's going to look like when they lose.

1123
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 9: You know, what's the what's the level of optimism in

1124
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 9: terms of, you know, do you believe more in the

1125
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 9: three of the last four or do you believe more

1126
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 9: in maybe the first three and that this team is

1127
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 9: going to be closer to that team more frequently, or

1128
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 9: closer to the team that they've been here in the

1129
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 9: last four more frequently, or is this just the normal

1130
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 9: gravitational poll that we've all lived here with this Giants

1131
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 9: team from twenty twenty two through twenty three and twenty

1132
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 9: four twenty five, where you know, just when you think

1133
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 9: they really have an opportunity to do something in the

1134
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 9: excitement levels at a big time high, they fall back

1135
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 9: flat toward that five hundred mark or below. And then

1136
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 9: just when you think, oh, it's horrible, this is not

1137
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 9: a good baseball team, they show you actually that's not

1138
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 9: the case either, that they do have some talent, but

1139
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,879
Speaker 9: the talent typically leads them back on that gravitational poll

1140
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 9: toward five hundred. Then you look up through a week

1141
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 9: end of the season and they're three and four and

1142
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 9: maybe four and four after tonight. But all of that

1143
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 9: does is add up to basically what they've been here

1144
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 9: these last four years, which is, you know, anywhere between

1145
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 9: what a seventy nine and an eighty three win team

1146
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 9: averaging basically to eighty one and eighty one.

1147
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: It's a really good question about do you feel like

1148
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 2: they're more similar to the team we've seen this week

1149
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 2: or what we might have seen struggle wise over the

1150
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 2: first weekend. The answer right now is I don't know,

1151
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 2: and I get it thanks Captain obvious. Right like one

1152
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty two games, and our job is to

1153
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 2: react and to break down every little detail and to

1154
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 2: bring it insiders and to just hash out every conversation

1155
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 2: that we possibly can have. I truly don't know. What

1156
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 2: I will say is the first go around in the

1157
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 2: rotation is definitely a plus. I thought both Mally and Hauser,

1158
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,240
Speaker 2: the two new guys, looked pretty solid in their first outings,

1159
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 2: if not perfect, or although not perfect, I should say

1160
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 2: the bullpen has certainly been the biggest plus in terms

1161
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 2: of a surprise. But again, last year tells us that

1162
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 2: you need a lot of arms to get through a season.

1163
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 2: So while it's a pleasant start, and while I would

1164
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 2: probably be reacting more to a negative start by the bullpen,

1165
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 2: it's not something I'm going to count on just being

1166
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 2: consistent throughout the entirety of the season.

1167
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 5: When we've already seen one guy go to the IL.

1168
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 2: The lineup is certainly something that's had its moments of

1169
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 2: a major minus, and then more recently we've had the

1170
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 2: plus and last night in terms of catching depth and

1171
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 2: providing a little offense from Daniel Sussak. Yeah, it was

1172
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 2: one game where he got on base four times.

1173
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 5: Great for him.

1174
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 2: Curious to see how he might implement a little bit

1175
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 2: more when he gets chances to start, and eventually maybe

1176
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 2: we see guys like Encarnacion and Cos get mixed into

1177
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 2: games late. But for right now, there's a lot of

1178
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 2: consistency across the board with the everyday players and then

1179
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 2: the one guy that I'll single out as a definite plus,

1180
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 2: Luisa Rice coming over defensively has made some really nice

1181
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 2: plays at times, and then offensively, it's everything you wanted

1182
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 2: bringing in a guy who can just hit for a

1183
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,720
Speaker 2: batting average on a team when there's so much tendency

1184
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 2: to strike out with the top of your lineup.

1185
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 10: Sometimes He's looked really good defensively.

1186
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 9: I know, I heard kru good you guys talking about it,

1187
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 9: you know, to this point, like much better than I

1188
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 9: think anybody would have anticipated this early in the season

1189
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 9: in terms of second base, and has been well documented.

1190
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 9: I mean that's the reason why arises on the Giants,

1191
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 9: because they were willing to give him an opportunity to

1192
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 9: play second base. If they had been adamant that he

1193
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 9: had to be a first baseman, then he probably wouldn't

1194
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 9: have signed with the Giants, and and you know, maybe

1195
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 9: even ends up back in San Diego or somewhere else.

1196
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 9: So you kind of have to live with that in

1197
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 9: terms of him playing second base. But there was no

1198
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 9: doubt in my mind that he was going to come

1199
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 9: in and help the offense. Like it just you need

1200
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 9: to have guys. And I'll also say, you know about

1201
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 9: the approach, and we were talking about some of the

1202
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 9: situational hitting. I know, something that was a big you know,

1203
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 9: I think talking point in terms of the hitting philosophy

1204
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 9: for the Giants is to be a little bit more

1205
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 9: aggressive earlier in counts, and I think you know, they

1206
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 9: did a little bit more of that last night too,

1207
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,240
Speaker 9: like jumping on pitches earlier in counts, not letting yourself

1208
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 9: get into a hole where you know it becomes, you know,

1209
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 9: much more likely that you're gonna strike out by taking

1210
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 9: good pitches to hit early in at bats that set

1211
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 9: you behind one, that get you behind one, two, and

1212
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 9: then you find yourself chasing a little bit, even if

1213
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 9: you're in protect mode with two strikes and having to

1214
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 9: try to change the approach. I think that's the other

1215
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 9: thing we've seen is they've been a little more opportunistic

1216
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 9: earlier in counts during the course of this week. And

1217
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 9: again that's something that you give that you give the

1218
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 9: manager and the coaching staff credit for, because I think

1219
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 9: that's something that was a stated goal change for this

1220
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,439
Speaker 9: team over the way that they've operated in the last

1221
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 9: couple of years. Yeah, I think Sussac himself exemplified what

1222
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 9: the Giants approach was yesterday going against Peterson with the

1223
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 9: quick attack. I mean he faced eleven batters in the

1224
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 9: first two winnings, but also just through twenty four pitches. Now,

1225
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 9: contrast that with Robbie Ray who burned fifty nine pitches

1226
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 9: through the first three innings and so good for the

1227
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 9: Giants last night, the approach, And the question is do

1228
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 9: you believe that this team is closer to what you've

1229
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 9: seen this week or maybe a little bit closer to

1230
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 9: what you saw over the weekend, or is it all

1231
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 9: just part of the gravitational pull of being a more

1232
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 9: or less five hundred baseball team that the Giants are

1233
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 9: so desperately trying to break out of eight ow eight KNBR.

1234
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 9: That's four one five eight to eight five six two

1235
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 9: seven to join the conversation, and we're gonna do something

1236
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 9: a little bit crazy.

1237
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 5: We'll do an early giveaway right now.

1238
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 2: Call four one, five, eight nine six k NBR four

1239
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 2: one five eight nine six five six two seven and

1240
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 2: you can win a pair of tickets to see the Shins,

1241
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 2: Weezer and the Silver Sun pickups. We'll pick up this

1242
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 2: conversation when we come on back. Good luck to all

1243
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 2: of you out there.

1244
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 5: Hope you win on the Sports Leader anbr The Sports

1245
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 5: Leader