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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the exter Earning postgame show with Bill Laski.

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Speaker 1: My guests played nine years in Major League baseball. He

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Speaker 1: also played in Korea and now he's a coach for

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Speaker 1: Omaha Baseball. Let's bring in Darren Rough today. Darren, how

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Speaker 1: are you? I'm good, Bill, How are you? A pleasure

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Speaker 1: catching up with you? And it's like I said, you're

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Speaker 1: in college baseball and Nebraska. How do you like student

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Speaker 1: athletes and going back into the game at Creighton you

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Speaker 1: were a college player has just gone circle? Are you

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Speaker 1: Are you happy at what you're doing though?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, you know I was.

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Speaker 3: I was born and raised in Omaha, and so where

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Speaker 3: we always knew that my wife and family we wanted

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Speaker 3: to be uh in Omaha and obviously having a an.

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Speaker 2: Awesome, you know career in baseball. I just love the sport.

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Speaker 3: And wanted to try to give back any way I could.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I lived ten minutes from from our

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Speaker 3: get a you know, be around baseball and help you know,

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Speaker 3: game and stay competitive in a way, but also get

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Speaker 3: to you know, be around my family. As much as

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Speaker 3: you know, major League baseball players and professional baseball players,

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Speaker 3: professional athletes in general sacrifice family time, I still get

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Speaker 3: to be you know, present for them.

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Speaker 1: Well, in two thousand and nine, you were in Creighton University,

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Speaker 1: you got drafted by the Philadelphia Phillies. You ended up

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Speaker 1: signing with them. That's in a big leagues relatively pretty quick.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twelve, your experience was Philadelphia your first team

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the professional game is a little bit

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Speaker 3: different and being a bat first type of a player,

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Speaker 3: which I kind of had to establish, you need to

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Speaker 3: need to be able to drive the baseball a little more.

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Speaker 3: I was never a super power hitter in college, more

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Speaker 2: Which translated really well.

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Speaker 3: But it wasn't until my second second year in high

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Speaker 3: once I got to double A and reading, which is

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Speaker 3: homers and that that certainly got me the opportunity in

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Speaker 3: the major leagues that I got.

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Speaker 1: Well, Darren, in twenty seventeen, you jumped to Korea Baseball

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Speaker 1: and you played there. You know for three seasons. You

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Speaker 1: had three great years. You averaged three thirteen of a

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Speaker 1: batting average, eighty six home runs, three hundred and fifty RBIs.

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Speaker 1: You know, it was a different league, You took your

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, at first, for sure, it's a it's a

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Speaker 3: it's a difficult adjustment. I I was kind of a

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Speaker 3: luckily for me, the the Samsung Lions, they had a hitter,

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Speaker 3: So they were they were late, you know, scrambling trying

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Speaker 3: They they sent me down to their their minor leagues

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Speaker 2: And it was good timing.

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Speaker 3: He was at the end of the month, so I think,

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Speaker 3: It was first of April, one of those, and and

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Speaker 1: you go to a different country, the lifestyle changes, you know,

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I Mean the whole offseason I'd kind of been

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Speaker 2: I I was out.

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Speaker 3: Of options and and I knew that I hadn't really

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Speaker 2: A team at a certain time.

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Speaker 3: But but also the the thing that kept me around

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Speaker 2: So once those ran out, I knew that, you know,

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Speaker 3: And maybe someone that those those teams would look at.

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Speaker 3: But but yeah, with that comes, uh comes.

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Speaker 2: A little bit of a lifestyle change and culture change.

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Speaker 3: And you know, it's just it's being open minded, it's

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Speaker 3: something that you know, having having my family over there

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Speaker 3: was was extremely hopeful, and my my wife loved it

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Speaker 3: The whole experience was was fantastic for us.

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Speaker 1: Well, after three seasons in Korea, the San Francisco Giants

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Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball? Was there other teams knocking on

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Speaker 1: were you ready to come back to the States? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I was. I was ready. My wife was pregnant, pregnant

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Speaker 3: I knew that it was a great opportunity to to

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Speaker 3: when the Giants, you know, yeah, offered me a minor

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Speaker 2: It was the perfect the perfect setup for us.

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Speaker 3: With you know, spring training being so close, my wife

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Speaker 2: And so we could be together for all.

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Speaker 3: The spring training where you know that's that's a burden

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Speaker 3: the best opportunity to make the team, and you know it,

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Speaker 3: it's funny how things work out. Then that's the COVID

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Speaker 3: season where I had a really good first couple three

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Speaker 2: Training and then then we get shut down for a

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Speaker 3: I get to be there for the birth of my

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Speaker 3: play in front of nobody.

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Speaker 1: So you played in front of cutouts.

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Speaker 3: Remember that we played in front of Yeah, my my

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Speaker 1: Even though they were cardboard cutouts. Right exactly, We're talking

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Speaker 1: to Darren Ruff, and you know Darren a lot of

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Speaker 1: times it's first first home run, first hit, pitchers get

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Speaker 1: their first win. Well, I want to reminisce on something.

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Speaker 1: On April eighth, twenty twenty two, it was Opening Day.

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Speaker 1: You were playing the Marlins. The game ended up going

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Speaker 1: extra innings. You were the designated hitter. But in the

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Speaker 1: bottom of the tenth inning, Mariiso Duban was on second base.

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Speaker 1: A fly ball by Brandon Bell to right field, and

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Speaker 1: Austin Slater comes up behind you, and I want to

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Speaker 1: play you a clip. See if you remember this.

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Speaker 3: Donald left field one rough as on the ball.

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Speaker 2: Roough is on the mob roof is on the move.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm glad Darren unhitched the trailer and I was

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Speaker 4: able to make it all the way home. You know,

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Speaker 4: Darren's a little sneaky fast, so there was never a doubt.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I know it's it's gonna be a memorable

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Speaker 4: opening day for me for sure.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Darren, do you remember this? Do you remember what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, rough is on the move?

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Speaker 3: I mean it's funny like with opening day being you know,

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Speaker 3: And it's funny when you sent me the the audio

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Speaker 3: a very polite way of saying pretty slow. At the

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Speaker 3: same time, I can't believe he scored, but no, it

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Speaker 3: does bring back great memories and you know, that's that's

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Speaker 3: one thing I know that speed is never an attribute

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Speaker 3: which I think helped me beat.

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Speaker 2: That throw by just just a hair.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, no, all those things are great memories.

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Speaker 1: Boy, it was an exciting time opening day, and of

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Speaker 1: course getting that wind was such a such a glamour

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Speaker 1: or stay for the Giants as well as you, and

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Speaker 1: it was one of the better calls Dwayne Kuyper has made.

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Speaker 1: But in twenty twenty two, something else happened. You got

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Speaker 1: traded to the New York Mets, a surprise trade. You

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Speaker 1: was next. How did that all come about? And and

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously, my family and I love San Francisco

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Speaker 1: As we finish up with Darren Ruff here on the

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Speaker 1: expinning post game show, a fabulous career, a chance to

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Speaker 1: The Giants, the Mets, the Brewers are four good organizations

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Speaker 1: when you look in that rearview mirror, Darren Ruff, how

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Speaker 3: There's there's so many more people involved too to get

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Speaker 2: And that's what that's why I you know, getting into

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Speaker 3: I I I hope that someday there's there's someone that says.

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Speaker 2: That I helped.

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Speaker 3: I helped them get there, you know something I told them,

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Speaker 1: So well, Darren, you're in the right place teaching baseball

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Speaker 1: But I just want to thank you for your time today.

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, thanks Bill.

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Speaker 1: That was Darren rough on the X Learning Postgame Show.

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