WEBVTT - Brilliant But Wrong 0:00:10.220 --> 0:00:14.060 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the 0:00:14.100 --> 0:00:16.070 George Washington Broadcast Center. 0:00:16.150 --> 0:00:18.349 Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 0:00:18.530 --> 0:00:19.869 Armstrong and Getty. 0:00:20.070 --> 0:00:25.599 And now, here's Armstrong and Getty. 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:34.699 The president met with those top tech execs for hours 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:38.200 behind closed doors. Some in that room have sounded the alarm. 0:00:38.380 --> 0:00:41.330 Anthropic CEO Dario Amadei has warned AI could be a 0:00:41.409 --> 0:00:44.030 risk to humanity itself if left unchecked. 0:00:44.270 --> 0:00:48.010 The mechanism how we address those risks is still under discussion. 0:00:48.150 --> 0:00:51.530 But for weeks, the president has dismissed those concerns, rejecting 0:00:51.580 --> 0:00:55.240 calls to regulate AI as a globalist scheme and repeatedly 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:57.220 describing AI fears as a hoax. 0:00:58.530 --> 0:01:01.740 Yeah, so that's Rachel Scott, ABC News, reporting on the 0:01:01.780 --> 0:01:03.860 big AI summit at the White House yesterday. Just a 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:05.979 little more from the general report, then we'll get into 0:01:06.020 --> 0:01:10.240 some of the individual comments, which are, especially Elon's, are 0:01:10.300 --> 0:01:11.220 just amazing. 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:14.880 There will be no federal guardrails on AI. 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:18.460 Instead, the president announced several companies have signed a voluntary 0:01:18.540 --> 0:01:22.699 joint agreement, suggesting industry leaders should implement internal measures to 0:01:22.780 --> 0:01:26.050 monitor and check their own AI models, partner with external 0:01:26.190 --> 0:01:29.589 auditors to review their systems, and create an independent committee 0:01:29.650 --> 0:01:30.770 of a board of directors. 0:01:30.950 --> 0:01:32.650 But none of that is legally binding. 0:01:32.910 --> 0:01:36.250 The president was asked, what compels these companies to follow through? 0:01:36.270 --> 0:01:37.790 Is it binding in any way? 0:01:37.850 --> 0:01:39.250 I think it's morally binding. 0:01:39.390 --> 0:01:40.670 Morally binding? 0:01:40.690 --> 0:01:40.750 No. 0:01:41.209 --> 0:01:41.449 Okay. 0:01:44.490 --> 0:01:47.529 What would we be getting if we had a Democrat president? 0:01:47.570 --> 0:01:52.340 Would they be full speed ahead on some sort of guardrails? 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:55.500 I don't know. The politics of the whole AI thing 0:01:55.540 --> 0:01:56.620 are kind of all over the place. 0:01:57.380 --> 0:01:58.320 Right, right, right. 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:01.830 You'd have public statements that would probably be like, we 0:02:01.860 --> 0:02:04.750 need to regulate this. Just the way Democrats always talk 0:02:04.790 --> 0:02:07.350 about anything. You know, the government needs to get involved. 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:11.440 But if they would actually do anything is a different 0:02:11.500 --> 0:02:14.740 question because what to do and how to do it 0:02:14.780 --> 0:02:18.340 is just nobody knows. Dario doesn't have any idea. 0:02:18.570 --> 0:02:20.810 Speaking of Dario, he runs Anthropic, which is about to 0:02:20.830 --> 0:02:24.350 have a $ 19 trillion IPO or something like that. 0:02:24.790 --> 0:02:25.269 Really? 0:02:26.330 --> 0:02:26.630 Really. 0:02:26.710 --> 0:02:28.050 Here's what he had to say yesterday. 0:02:28.350 --> 0:02:30.910 Look, I mean, I will say what I've always said, 0:02:31.250 --> 0:02:34.030 which is that AI has incredible benefits. 0:02:34.530 --> 0:02:37.810 I've talked about the medical benefits of the technology. As 0:02:37.850 --> 0:02:39.800 the president has said, you know, whoever. 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:42.800 Wins AI wins. I think that's very important. But I 0:02:42.820 --> 0:02:45.140 think the technology has very real risks. 0:02:45.380 --> 0:02:48.700 And, you know, the mechanism, how we address those risks 0:02:48.780 --> 0:02:50.060 is still under discussion. 0:02:50.540 --> 0:02:52.000 But we all need to work. 0:02:52.210 --> 0:02:54.750 We all need to work together to make sure that 0:02:54.770 --> 0:02:56.770 we can win and we can win safely. 0:02:56.850 --> 0:02:59.049 If we do this right, we work with the president 0:02:59.070 --> 0:03:01.870 and everyone here, we can win safely. Well, maybe you 0:03:01.910 --> 0:03:05.030 don't trust Dario from Anthropic. I'm sure you trust Mark 0:03:05.090 --> 0:03:09.560 Zuckerberg of Meta. explaining how some of this is going 0:03:09.580 --> 0:03:10.200 to work, I guess? 0:03:11.060 --> 0:03:14.420 The basic idea is that we want to give the 0:03:14.460 --> 0:03:18.780 American people and our customers confidence that the technology works 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:22.020 in the way that we intend. Every company is building 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:24.880 something that's a little bit different. Having one set of 0:03:25.690 --> 0:03:29.330 standards for what everyone should want to build, people want 0:03:29.350 --> 0:03:31.410 to do some different things. But I think what we 0:03:31.450 --> 0:03:34.639 can all agree on is that the American public and 0:03:34.700 --> 0:03:36.960 our customers want to know that what we're building is 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:37.800 working in the way that. 0:03:37.740 --> 0:03:38.420 We all intend. 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:42.540 So we drafted a set of principles and commitments around 0:03:42.980 --> 0:03:46.890 building robust internal controls and detecting if there are any 0:03:46.930 --> 0:03:53.090 issues with the technology, coupled with multiple layers of auditing 0:03:53.130 --> 0:03:58.280 and controls, starting with internal risk review, external auditors and evaluators, 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:00.740 and agreeing that we're going to have all of our 0:04:00.820 --> 0:04:04.760 boards of directors independently review the reports that come from 0:04:04.780 --> 0:04:07.240 the auditors. I think these are good steps forward. 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:10.690 Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got to get back 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:16.670 to torturing the souls of the damned. Mark Zuckerberg, a.k.a. Satan. 0:04:18.710 --> 0:04:21.450 So, if you saw the photo they took at the end, 0:04:22.110 --> 0:04:26.190 it reminded me of that famous painting, which is apocryphal, 0:04:26.210 --> 0:04:29.700 but close enough, of All the founding fathers there at 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:35.480 the Constitutional Convention or drafting, building our government and talking 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:39.230 and all that sort of stuff. This was similar, I think. 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:42.089 You had the president of the United States with all 0:04:42.110 --> 0:04:45.409 of these guys, Dario and Elon and Zuckerberg and everybody 0:04:45.450 --> 0:04:49.390 standing around there. And someday I think that photo will 0:04:49.430 --> 0:04:51.390 look back on it and think we had no idea 0:04:51.450 --> 0:04:53.690 what we were unleashing or that was the beginning of 0:04:53.730 --> 0:04:56.590 all this greatness or however we'll look at it. But 0:04:56.930 --> 0:04:59.730 that was a moment yesterday. That was a lot of 0:04:59.850 --> 0:05:03.700 power and a lot of the future for humanity on 0:05:03.820 --> 0:05:06.440 planet Earth right there in that little group of people. 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:11.060 It may be looked upon as the inflection point where 0:05:11.180 --> 0:05:14.700 humanity woke up and blah, blah, blah. Or it may be, look, 0:05:14.820 --> 0:05:18.340 all four horsemen of the apocalypse in one picture. You know, 0:05:18.380 --> 0:05:22.740 one of those damn spam things you get to horrifying 0:05:22.820 --> 0:05:26.360 pictures from history. They're always pestering you to click on. 0:05:26.620 --> 0:05:27.700 It might be one of those. 0:05:28.339 --> 0:05:32.180 So here's a couple of not too long Elon clips 0:05:32.500 --> 0:05:35.780 where he's talking about, you know, the upside and how 0:05:35.820 --> 0:05:39.350 great it's going to be. And to me, most people 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:42.150 must think this isn't going to come true. Because if 0:05:42.190 --> 0:05:44.690 you actually believed what he's saying is going to come true, 0:05:44.790 --> 0:05:47.330 I feel like everybody would be talking about this nonstop. 0:05:48.610 --> 0:05:51.229 Here we go. Sorry, the question was about age of abundance. 0:05:51.270 --> 0:05:52.070 What are the jobs of the future? 0:05:52.089 --> 0:05:55.839 Because people looking at this will be worried, particularly laptop jobs. 0:05:56.060 --> 0:05:59.300 What are they going to do in the future? Well, 0:05:59.339 --> 0:06:02.540 I think it is worth highlighting the positive benefits of AI, 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:04.870 which will... SI, pardon me. 0:06:05.290 --> 0:06:05.690 Thank you. 0:06:07.270 --> 0:06:07.950 Superintelligence. 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:11.190 I think by far the most likely outcome is an 0:06:11.250 --> 0:06:14.950 age of abundance, where we don't have just universal basic income, 0:06:14.990 --> 0:06:16.270 we have universal high income. 0:06:16.770 --> 0:06:19.570 Everybody's going to have universal means everyone. Everyone's going to 0:06:19.610 --> 0:06:23.400 have a high income given to them by some entity. 0:06:23.620 --> 0:06:25.839 Nobody ever quite explains what that would be, so you 0:06:25.860 --> 0:06:27.200 don't have to work if you don't want to. We'll 0:06:27.220 --> 0:06:28.219 also have these benefits. 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:34.029 Yeah, people speak about medical benefits. I think maybe it's 0:06:34.070 --> 0:06:36.830 worth talking a bit more about that. When you have 0:06:37.700 --> 0:06:41.420 robots and you have super intelligence, it means that everyone 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:45.020 in the world can have better medical care than anyone here, 0:06:45.300 --> 0:06:48.670 including me. And wouldn't that be wonderful? 0:06:50.290 --> 0:06:53.370 Tremendous medical care, but no job or purpose in life. 0:06:53.890 --> 0:06:55.950 Somebody asked Elon about jobs. What are people going to 0:06:55.970 --> 0:06:57.190 be doing for a living out there? 0:07:00.130 --> 0:07:02.860 Well, jobs are going to change. Jobs have always changed. 0:07:03.779 --> 0:07:08.010 But Being a computer used to be a job. There 0:07:08.029 --> 0:07:11.310 used to be buildings full of people doing calculations. But now, 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:15.700 digital computers do those tasks. I don't think anyone is 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.400 pining to go back and do calculations all day to 0:07:19.420 --> 0:07:21.140 do bank interest rates, which is what they used to do. 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:26.280 So I think we'll see an evolution of roles. And 0:07:26.860 --> 0:07:30.760 as the President has mentioned, as long as the unemployment 0:07:30.780 --> 0:07:33.280 has increased, in fact, there's a tremendous demand for people 0:07:34.860 --> 0:07:37.360 So I think the most likely outcome, and it's probably 0:07:37.380 --> 0:07:40.300 worth looking at the most likely outcome, is one which 0:07:40.420 --> 0:07:43.060 is incredibly beneficial and it's a future that you, if 0:07:43.100 --> 0:07:45.230 you could look into the future, it is a future 0:07:45.260 --> 0:07:45.760 you would want. 0:07:47.650 --> 0:07:52.850 He is brilliant and he's completely wrong. I mean, look, 0:07:53.030 --> 0:07:57.900 it is such a truism. That I hesitate to even 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:02.300 say it. Every psychologist, every religion, every philosophy that's ever 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:05.700 swayed more than 36 people in the history of mankind 0:08:06.020 --> 0:08:08.890 has said you've got to have a life of purpose. 0:08:09.870 --> 0:08:13.630 And for all of us, for all of time, part 0:08:13.670 --> 0:08:16.670 of that purpose has been providing for ourselves and our family. 0:08:16.690 --> 0:08:19.850 It's the way we're built. And then we search for, 0:08:19.870 --> 0:08:22.560 you know, higher up on Maslow's hierarchy of needs and 0:08:22.940 --> 0:08:25.700 relationship with God, ultimately, blah, blah, blah. But if you 0:08:25.750 --> 0:08:31.500 remove all purpose from people's lives and they're just going 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:35.569 to sit around writing poetry, poetry about what? What feelings 0:08:35.650 --> 0:08:39.670 are they expressing? How comfortable they are? Or how they've 0:08:39.710 --> 0:08:42.290 got nothing to do? They're bored to death? They just 0:08:42.330 --> 0:08:44.270 do drugs and have sex? But nobody's going to have 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:46.219 any sex anymore? I tell you what. 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:50.860 I feel like the media is doing such a bad 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:54.580 job of asking questions around this. I would love to 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.620 have my shot at talking to Elon or President Trump 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:01.689 or whoever about this. Okay, universal high income. Are we 0:09:01.750 --> 0:09:05.840 kind of pretending here that All politics are going to 0:09:05.940 --> 0:09:11.690 disappear around this issue. Who's getting the universal high income? When? 0:09:12.130 --> 0:09:15.829 What is the distribution method? How are you gathering it 0:09:15.890 --> 0:09:19.530 from these companies? Why are the companies voluntarily giving up 0:09:19.630 --> 0:09:22.200 all this money to the government who's then going to 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:25.520 redistribute it? How much of a cut is the government taking? 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:28.380 What about people who like me, you know, people that 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:31.140 are old? We've been saving our whole lives preparing for 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:33.040 a retirement that we thought we had to plan for. 0:09:33.179 --> 0:09:35.660 Do we get the universal high income? No, you don't 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.980 get it because you've already saved. Okay, is that what 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:42.619 it's going to be? Or how does this work? Or 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:44.400 do I get it in addition to what I've saved, 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:47.020 which means I got a lot more money than somebody 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:51.160 who's starting out as a 25-year-old who's starting in on 0:09:51.210 --> 0:09:54.250 his universal high income. Is he going to be. 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:58.190 Envious of what I have or angry or is he 0:09:58.210 --> 0:10:00.980 going to be a political block that's saying take some 0:10:01.100 --> 0:10:04.970 from those of us? You're pretending that politics are going 0:10:04.990 --> 0:10:06.410 to disappear around this issue. 0:10:06.809 --> 0:10:09.390 Right, right. And a thought just occurred to me. We've 0:10:09.410 --> 0:10:12.410 talked about this so many times, and it was not 0:10:12.470 --> 0:10:17.589 until now that a light bulb went off in my head. To, again, 0:10:17.670 --> 0:10:21.510 cite religion, the good book, this too shall pass. What 0:10:21.730 --> 0:10:27.040 happens when the inevitable occurs and the status quo that 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:29.720 is what Elon Musk is talking about, and we're talking 0:10:29.740 --> 0:10:33.000 about the enormous disruptions to lives and souls and it all. 0:10:33.420 --> 0:10:37.410 What happens when that ends and people have become utterly 0:10:37.550 --> 0:10:42.470 unable to do anything productive, provide for themselves, or even 0:10:42.590 --> 0:10:44.089 bother to have sex? Yeah. 0:10:46.710 --> 0:10:48.250 Well, why do you see it ending? 0:10:48.270 --> 0:10:50.090 Because everything does. 0:10:53.050 --> 0:10:56.270 You don't think the new robot AI world will continue 0:10:56.309 --> 0:10:58.750 to produce enough money for everybody to live on for? 0:11:00.390 --> 0:11:03.680 I mean, nothing lasts forever, but for the foreseeable future, 0:11:03.700 --> 0:11:05.380 it certainly could last many, many decades. 0:11:06.059 --> 0:11:10.359 If you want my prediction, it is this. If this 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:15.460 stuff comes true, even substantially. The human population on Earth 0:11:15.540 --> 0:11:21.640 will plunge. It'll make the current low sub-replacement birth rates 0:11:22.140 --> 0:11:30.130 look like a horny Mormon family. I mean, there will 0:11:30.190 --> 0:11:36.360 be no babies. And a certain very smallish sect of 0:11:36.420 --> 0:11:40.590 humans will go back to the old ways and And 0:11:40.630 --> 0:11:45.850 how they coexist with the modern robot computer no-sex world, 0:11:45.970 --> 0:11:46.670 I don't know. 0:11:48.850 --> 0:11:50.630 I won't belabor this because we talked about it a 0:11:50.670 --> 0:11:52.590 lot and we'll be talking about it a lot as 0:11:52.650 --> 0:11:56.719 this unfolds probably over next year or whenever it's going 0:11:56.740 --> 0:12:00.260 to happen. But so when did the checks start going 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:04.120 out to who? And what about the guy who made 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:10.350 $ 180, 000 a year As a programmer or whatever the hell 0:12:10.390 --> 0:12:13.349 he was doing, everybody's going to lose their jobs. Guy 0:12:13.370 --> 0:12:17.030 was making one hundred eighty thousand dollars a year. And 0:12:17.070 --> 0:12:20.610 now you're getting. Eighty thousand dollars a year from this 0:12:20.670 --> 0:12:23.710 universal high income thing. You're not going to be happy 0:12:23.730 --> 0:12:25.630 with that. You've just taken a huge step backwards. 0:12:26.250 --> 0:12:26.470 Yes. 0:12:27.490 --> 0:12:27.630 Yeah. 0:12:27.730 --> 0:12:30.750 Again, acting like there's going to be no politics around this. 0:12:31.690 --> 0:12:32.870 It's just insane. 0:12:33.290 --> 0:12:36.150 Well, it's it's completely naive. It's the sort of thing 0:12:36.170 --> 0:12:39.090 you get from a scientist. They don't think about anything 0:12:39.130 --> 0:12:42.309 but the science, which is why they need our wise 0:12:42.410 --> 0:12:43.699 stewardship or something or other. 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:44.100 I don't know. 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:48.420 Here's some news. Speaking of the world of technology, the 0:12:48.500 --> 0:12:53.320 positive side of it, it's so great the way SimpliSafe 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:56.260 works to protect your home. You got these AI-powered cameras. 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:58.860 They see a guy ooching around in the bushes, right? 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:03.500 And they send off an alarm to the live U.S.-based 0:13:03.700 --> 0:13:08.930 human agents who either say, oh, Clearly the gardener, he's 0:13:09.090 --> 0:13:12.630 edging the lawn, right? Or they say, oh, that does 0:13:12.690 --> 0:13:16.319 not look good at all. And they can intervene, speak 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:18.680 through the camera to scare off the intruder and or 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:24.000 call for 911 dispatch with specific descriptions of what's going on. 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:27.210 It's an amazing leap forward in security systems, simply safe. 0:13:27.620 --> 0:13:30.719 Will we not need security systems at all when everybody's 0:13:30.740 --> 0:13:34.140 getting universal high income? Because everybody's got abundance of everything 0:13:34.179 --> 0:13:35.280 and you don't need to steal anything. 0:13:35.730 --> 0:13:37.430 There will always be greed, I think. 0:13:37.790 --> 0:13:39.890 Well, that's what I think, too. But they keep pretending 0:13:39.929 --> 0:13:42.910 like there won't be greed. They're fools. Nobody will want 0:13:43.010 --> 0:13:46.580 more of anything. Anyway, for now, as you know, people 0:13:46.620 --> 0:13:48.900 are willing to steal your stuff. And right now you 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:51.200 can get 50% off a new SimpliSafe system. Just go 0:13:51.220 --> 0:13:53.180 to SimpliSafe.com slash Armstrong. 0:13:53.690 --> 0:13:57.230 That's simplisafe.com slash Armstrong for 50% off. And when you order, 0:13:57.270 --> 0:13:59.170 please write in Armstrong and Getty in the How Did 0:13:59.220 --> 0:14:01.240 You Hear About Us survey. Let them know we sent you. 0:14:01.260 --> 0:14:05.059 Don't forget, there's no safe like SimpliSafe. How has nobody. 0:14:04.900 --> 0:14:08.040 Asked Elon or Amadei or any of these people the 0:14:08.059 --> 0:14:11.319 question about, well, some houses are bigger than others. Who's 0:14:11.340 --> 0:14:12.720 going to live in the big houses and who's going 0:14:12.740 --> 0:14:15.750 to live in the small houses? How is this going 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:16.350 to shake out? 0:14:16.970 --> 0:14:19.750 Well, right. And let's have Steven Pinker and the Pope 0:14:20.010 --> 0:14:23.000 and I don't know who else. I'll weigh in on 0:14:23.020 --> 0:14:27.460 the question. That's the question. I'm less worried about robots 0:14:27.580 --> 0:14:28.750 chainsawing my head off. 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:29.900 Yeah, I'm not worried about that at all. 0:14:30.500 --> 0:14:30.740 Right. 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:32.020 Well, social unrest. 0:14:32.180 --> 0:14:33.840 I mean, that would hurt like crazy for a minute. 0:14:34.100 --> 0:14:36.600 There easily could be tremendous social unrest. 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:42.460 I mean, all still human. You're not worried about that 0:14:42.500 --> 0:14:42.940 at all. 0:14:44.660 --> 0:14:46.300 Is that the way it's going to talk? Okay. 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:46.720 Stay tuned. 0:14:46.740 --> 0:14:47.120 More away. 0:14:48.930 --> 0:14:50.210 Armstrong and. 0:14:53.490 --> 0:14:53.590 Getty. 0:15:00.450 --> 0:15:02.350 The Armstrong and Getty Show. 0:15:05.050 --> 0:15:08.200 The Chain Roundtable Pizza recently announced a new collaboration with Dr. 0:15:08.220 --> 0:15:12.220 Pepper to offer a Dr. Pepper barbecue pizza. And after you. 0:15:12.140 --> 0:15:14.860 Eat it, you'll also be collaborating with a doctor. 0:15:18.740 --> 0:15:20.000 That's a funny joke. 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:21.700 What? 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:22.880 I don't know. I wasn't amused. 0:15:23.530 --> 0:15:23.850 Wow. 0:15:23.870 --> 0:15:25.350 I don't know why. 0:15:27.350 --> 0:15:28.650 Oh, that's a fine joke. 0:15:29.570 --> 0:15:31.150 Did we come up with a plan? We decided we 0:15:31.170 --> 0:15:33.010 didn't have enough time for what we were going to do. 0:15:34.010 --> 0:15:37.100 I have a feature. Michael, prepare the all-purpose music. I 0:15:37.130 --> 0:15:40.320 have a feature I'd like to call those wacky Democrats. 0:15:45.020 --> 0:15:48.900 And coming up next segment, true crimes. I mean, crazy 0:15:48.940 --> 0:15:52.619 true crimes, including Tennessee. I think Tennessee is going to 0:15:52.700 --> 0:15:56.620 execute a woman for the first time in 200 years. Whoa. 0:15:57.330 --> 0:15:58.510 And I don't think it's right. 0:15:58.730 --> 0:16:00.310 Would she do steal her neighbor's possum? 0:16:02.830 --> 0:16:08.050 Way worse than that. Anyway, you're wacky Democrats. Here's Shelly Hedden. 0:16:08.110 --> 0:16:11.230 She's a Democratic candidate for the North Carolina House of Representatives. 0:16:12.660 --> 0:16:17.940 She is running to restore human decency. According to her website, 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:21.220 she's the gal who posted that Trump voters belong in 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:27.180 Nazi ovens. She was at Dachau, a concentration camp I 0:16:27.230 --> 0:16:32.530 happened to visit in Germany. And she decided to pose 0:16:32.570 --> 0:16:35.710 in front of the ovens, take a picture of herself 0:16:35.910 --> 0:16:39.950 smiling big, concentration camp in Germany. This is where Trump 0:16:39.970 --> 0:16:43.420 supporters belong. Oh, my Lord. 0:16:43.860 --> 0:16:44.840 Wow, what a joke. 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:47.720 Oh, my God. Trust me, when I was there, I 0:16:47.740 --> 0:16:51.020 was not looking for opportunities for partisan humor as I 0:16:51.180 --> 0:16:55.920 contemplated man's horrific inhumanity to man. 0:16:55.940 --> 0:16:59.040 Do they have a gift shop and sell T-shirts and stuff? 0:17:00.620 --> 0:17:00.900 No. 0:17:01.340 --> 0:17:01.540 Good. 0:17:02.180 --> 0:17:05.500 No, they have a bookstore, as I recall. 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:06.140 That makes sense. 0:17:06.550 --> 0:17:09.250 For more learning about it, yeah. And then you've got 0:17:09.310 --> 0:17:12.270 the Angie Nixon character. This is the black gal in 0:17:12.310 --> 0:17:15.130 Florida who always wears the fuchsia dresses, like the bright 0:17:15.190 --> 0:17:18.710 pink dresses. I think that's, I don't know your alternate colors. 0:17:19.350 --> 0:17:23.500 I'm a guy. I think that's fuchsia. It could be chartreuse. 0:17:23.619 --> 0:17:28.100 I don't know. I think chartreuse is green. But anyway. 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:29.800 I have no idea, actually. 0:17:29.859 --> 0:17:35.260 She's an avowed democratic socialist. She owns two homes. raked 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:40.020 in at least $ 270, 000 last year, not to mention her 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:45.080 husband's income, which she did not have to report. She's 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:51.020 also in serious trouble because she owes back taxes and 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:56.410 student loans. And refuses to pay them and is bitching 0:17:56.600 --> 0:18:01.160 online about how crazy it is. Your girl here, over here, 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:04.700 is on payment plan to pay the IRS 12,000 bucks back. 0:18:05.100 --> 0:18:08.230 And listen, I ain't made 105 billion, but you making 0:18:08.270 --> 0:18:11.429 me pay 12,000 to the feds? Like, really? That's what 0:18:11.470 --> 0:18:14.670 we're doing? And they took some of the taxes away anyway. 0:18:14.970 --> 0:18:17.820 So you're a socialist and you're complaining that you have 0:18:17.859 --> 0:18:20.840 to pay your very small percentage of taxes? And you 0:18:20.940 --> 0:18:23.740 haven't paid your student loans back, and you've got liens? 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:26.020 No wonder you're a socialist, because you can't run your 0:18:26.060 --> 0:18:30.359 own damn life. Chartreuse is a vivid yellow-green, which I 0:18:30.420 --> 0:18:32.240 couldn't have told you for a million dollars. 0:18:32.740 --> 0:18:32.980 True. 0:18:34.700 --> 0:18:36.560 Great true crime stuff coming up. Stay tuned. 0:18:38.090 --> 0:18:44.310 Armstrong and Getty. The Armstrong and Getty Show. 0:18:46.730 --> 0:18:49.940 After deliberating less than three hours, an Ohio jury has 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:54.240 found former pastor and one-time American Idol contestant Caleb Flynn 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:58.000 guilty of killing his wife Ashley and staging the murder 0:18:58.119 --> 0:18:59.300 to look like a home invasion. 0:18:59.660 --> 0:19:02.640 We, the jury in this case, being duly impaneled and sworn, 0:19:03.140 --> 0:19:04.510 find the defendant, Caleb C. 0:19:04.570 --> 0:19:06.170 Flynn, guilty of murder. 0:19:06.530 --> 0:19:09.270 Flynn breaking down as the verdict was read. 0:19:09.290 --> 0:19:11.869 I'm going to have to discuss this like it's a 0:19:11.910 --> 0:19:14.010 TV show, the way we often do with these true 0:19:14.030 --> 0:19:17.590 crime things, and not that, you know... the reality of it. 0:19:17.590 --> 0:19:19.709 Because if you get into the reality of it, it's 0:19:19.730 --> 0:19:22.030 a little, you know, it's brutal to talk about. 0:19:21.970 --> 0:19:22.429 It like it's a TV show. 0:19:22.450 --> 0:19:24.230 Oh, I got more reality than you want for the 0:19:24.290 --> 0:19:25.390 next story, so. 0:19:25.690 --> 0:19:28.710 You know, he murdered his wife, mom of their kids, whatever. 0:19:29.070 --> 0:19:31.770 These people that come up with these stupid, stupid plans. 0:19:32.070 --> 0:19:34.810 This guy was a, I haven't watched American Idol in 0:19:34.810 --> 0:19:37.990 20 years, but he was, made it fairly far on 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:38.840 American Idol and. 0:19:39.340 --> 0:19:39.960 Who cares? 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:44.340 Good looking guy and had a good looking wife who 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:46.750 he murdered. and made it look like it was a 0:19:46.780 --> 0:19:51.500 home break in to be with his also hot, really, 0:19:51.540 --> 0:19:54.159 really young girlfriend. Hear more detail. It took three hours 0:19:54.220 --> 0:19:56.580 to convict him because, well, because what you're about to hear. 0:19:57.890 --> 0:20:01.670 Flynn's defense attorneys argued his wife, Ashley, a schoolteacher, was 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:04.600 fatally shot in the head while in bed during a 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:07.760 home burglary back in February. Flynn, who said he had 0:20:07.820 --> 0:20:09.780 been on the couch and in their two young daughters' 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:13.980 bedroom when the shooting occurred, made this 911 call sounding frantic. 0:20:14.260 --> 0:20:15.080 Somebody broke into my home. 0:20:15.100 --> 0:20:17.140 Somebody broke into my home and killed my wife. 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:20.980 Okay, real enough sounding. Here's more of the prosecution, though. 0:20:21.550 --> 0:20:25.310 But prosecutors maintained it was a cover-up and argued Flynn 0:20:25.369 --> 0:20:28.879 was motivated by a nearly two-year-long affair with a woman 0:20:28.980 --> 0:20:33.340 he'd met at his church. That former mistress emotionally testified 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:37.540 about the more than 100,000 messages they exchanged and read 0:20:37.619 --> 0:20:42.159 several where they discussed wanting Flynn's wife dead. That former 0:20:42.220 --> 0:20:45.900 mistress testifying Flynn texted her just hours before his wife 0:20:45.940 --> 0:20:46.450 was killed. 0:20:46.810 --> 0:20:48.250 Did they say actions will come tomorrow? 0:20:48.510 --> 0:20:48.810 Yes. 0:20:49.730 --> 0:20:52.420 Do you remember her? And him saying, I choose you. 0:20:52.940 --> 0:20:53.300 Yes. 0:20:53.500 --> 0:20:54.719 And about to be free. 0:20:54.740 --> 0:20:54.960 Yes. 0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:59.690 He and his hot young girlfriend text each other over 0:20:59.690 --> 0:21:03.650 100,000 times, which seems like a lot of texting even 0:21:03.710 --> 0:21:08.850 for lovers, including putting in text, sure wish my wife 0:21:08.890 --> 0:21:11.429 was dead, wish I could kill my wife so we 0:21:11.450 --> 0:21:13.210 could be together, et cetera, et cetera. 0:21:13.710 --> 0:21:15.639 And the audio wasn't great there, but I think the 0:21:15.740 --> 0:21:19.200 action goes down tomorrow. Yeah, I'll be free. Yes. Okay. 0:21:20.710 --> 0:21:23.090 You know, you're just as dead when a stupid person 0:21:23.130 --> 0:21:28.890 kills you. Yeah. You're contemplating killing your spouse. Don't. You're 0:21:28.930 --> 0:21:31.409 not smart enough to pull it off. You're going to 0:21:31.450 --> 0:21:33.770 go to prison and you're a monster. 0:21:34.030 --> 0:21:37.129 I'm surprised it took three hours for the jury to 0:21:37.170 --> 0:21:40.000 come to that. I don't know what the various instructions 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:42.600