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Speaker 1: Live from Harmonic Brewing at Thrive City. This is Dirty

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Speaker 1: Work with Copes and d Pop on the sports Leader.

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Speaker 2: Dirty Work on a Thursday afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Adam Coupling Deep hop with you live from Harmonic Brewing

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Speaker 3: in Thrived City, getting ready for the Warriors and the

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Speaker 3: Lakers tonight at seven o'clock.

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Speaker 2: But it is April ninth.

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Speaker 3: Four to nine day, forty nine er day here on

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Speaker 3: the sports Leader, So a good opportunity to catch up

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Speaker 3: with forty nine er Steam reporter Brianna Janelle. Make sure

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Speaker 3: you're listening to her and reading her on forty nine

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Speaker 3: ers dot com. Brianna, good to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: How you been.

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Speaker 4: What's up Adam? What's up Derek? I've been good. How

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Speaker 4: are y'all?

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Speaker 2: We're doing?

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Speaker 3: Getting ready for that for draft time coming up in

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Speaker 3: just a couple of weeks, and we'll get into a

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Speaker 3: into some of that, but we've been talking already. Eighty

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Speaker 3: years of forty nine er football. A brand new logo

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Speaker 3: has been unveiled. I want to get into the new

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Speaker 3: launch of the forty nine or app and all of that,

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Speaker 3: but when you think eighty years of forty nine er

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Speaker 3: football outside of eighty and Jerry Rice, what's the first

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Speaker 3: day that comes to mind?

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Speaker 4: Oh, man, eighty years of Niners football. I mean, what

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Speaker 4: an iconic seat to make it to eighty years. I

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Speaker 4: think the first thing that comes to mind is the faithful,

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Speaker 4: all the fans out there. I feel like the faith

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Speaker 4: will really define this team. We're so unique, there's so

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Speaker 4: many of us were worldwide, and so all the fans.

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Speaker 4: My family comes to mind. Growing up as a Niner fan,

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Speaker 4: I think of my mom, my dad, my uncles who

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Speaker 4: go crazy on Sundays. So I think of the faithful

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Speaker 4: and most importantly my family. What about y'all, I want

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Speaker 4: to know your guys first Niner memories.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's a really good it's a really good way

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Speaker 3: that you put that because and I'll get into that

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Speaker 3: with you, because we were discussing, you know, the face

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Speaker 3: of the Niner franchise, like have there's so many legends

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Speaker 3: to pick from, and I said, what's funny is like,

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Speaker 3: I never saw Joe Montana play, but I know all

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Speaker 3: the moments, I know all the history of it. Because

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Speaker 3: that's what sports and fandom are about, is about having

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Speaker 3: memories and stories and lineage passed down from somebody ahead

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Speaker 3: of you to you, and you get to make your

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Speaker 3: own moments and your own memories. I mean, if I

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Speaker 3: I do love the Alex Smith bootleg against the New

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Speaker 3: Orleans Saints. That's one of my all time favorite playoff

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Speaker 3: games because that was maybe my first big Nighter playoff moment.

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Speaker 3: The run of Dreams and he stows the suchdown of

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Speaker 3: the Niners into the NFC title game. That's probably where

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Speaker 3: I come down. Do you have one, Derek?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I would say my early memories of forty hundred

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Speaker 5: football are the playoff games, the to he Caught It,

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Speaker 5: He Caught Caught It, Catch Park two. Yeah, finally overcoming

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Speaker 5: the Green Bay Packers. Of course the playoff game and

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Speaker 5: they were down thirty eight to fourteen to New York Giants.

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Speaker 5: So I went to the playoff victories, all of the

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Speaker 5: epic comebacks, and of course learning the history of the

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Speaker 4: What's your first memory, bre Okay, Well, my earliest memories.

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Speaker 4: I grew up at Candlestick Park, and that's the way

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Speaker 4: my mom and I bonded. She took us up there

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Speaker 4: every Sunday and My family has season tickets dating back

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Speaker 4: to Keyzar Stadium, so this is a real sure family

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Speaker 4: tradition for us. But I think the earliest memories for me,

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Speaker 4: I mean, y'all remember Candlestick. It was pretty hectic. It

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Speaker 4: was a ton of fun. So the first thing that

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Speaker 4: navigating the concourse and having my mom be my lead blocker.

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Speaker 4: She's like, hold on to me so beer doesn't get

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Speaker 4: The rush, you could feel the stadium literally shake. I

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Speaker 4: And when it comes to watching football, I really got

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Speaker 4: into it with Kaepernick under center, and then Patrick Willis

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Speaker 4: memories to reminisce on as we are on our eightieth

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Speaker 5: Brionn, I know it's gonna be a special year. Of course,

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Speaker 5: eighty a season going back to nineteen forty six with

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Speaker 5: this franchise. Do we know of any special celebrations that

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Speaker 5: we could see at Levi's during the season to commemorate

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's going to be a party all year long.

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Speaker 4: I know that I'm excited for what's to come this season,

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Speaker 4: especially with us going worldwide and Mexico in Australia, so

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Speaker 4: do know is that today's holiday four nine days extra

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Speaker 4: special because our marketing team released a new app, Worldwide,

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Speaker 4: Power by PwC, and it's stunning. It's a ton of fun.

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Speaker 4: I dove into it this morning where I could create

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Speaker 4: my own jersey. I got to chat with the Sodo

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Speaker 4: Samai chatbot and it's really cool. I highly recommend the

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Speaker 4: fans tick it out because it'll definitely get you ready

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Speaker 4: for a fun season ahead.

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Speaker 3: Talking to Brianna Janell, who team reporter for the forty

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Speaker 3: nine Ers, Derek just mentioned that the international worldwide travel,

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Speaker 3: I mean everybody's thinking about Australia. I was just there,

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Speaker 3: That's a big treck. Plus going to Mexico City yet again,

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Speaker 3: which isn't as far of a flight, but adding all

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Speaker 3: the other travel, the most miles any forty nine er

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Speaker 3: I would imagine, So, how are we looking at this internationally?

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Speaker 3: The challenges, the excitement, How are you attacking it as

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Speaker 4: I mean, what an honor to be able to celebrate

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Speaker 4: it's just so exciting because for the fact that that's

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Speaker 4: how we're going to kick off this season against the Rams.

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Speaker 4: That should be a fun game. How am I preparing

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Speaker 4: is going to be a crazy flight. I've never been

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Speaker 4: to see how it's going to go down. It's going

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Speaker 4: to be a ton of fun celebrating the league on

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Speaker 5: So, Brionna, what's you think of the off season? Obviously

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Speaker 5: weeks from today, So what have you made of the

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Speaker 5: forty nine Ers offseason so far?

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Speaker 4: John Lynch was cooking right. That was a fun off

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Speaker 4: season and it has been a fun offseason as we

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Speaker 4: that Mike Evans signing is so awesome. I got to

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Speaker 4: Kirk coming in the building. Oh so a digizua. All

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Speaker 4: these guys are so awesome and they fit that forty

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Speaker 4: nine Ers culture that John Lynch likes to bring in,

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Speaker 4: especially when we get to draft season. We've here. We

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Speaker 4: heard him say it time and time again at the

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Speaker 4: draft is the lifeblood of this team and making sure

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Speaker 4: you create sustainable success. And so you start to notice

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Speaker 4: the trait that this front office and the coaching staff

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Speaker 4: looks for and guys not only physical, hard hitting, fast

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Speaker 4: uplift that locker room culture and continue with the forty

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Speaker 4: nine Ers have built for these eighty years. So I'm

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Speaker 4: really excited for what the forty nine Ers have been

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Speaker 4: doing this offseason, and it looks like the team has

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Speaker 4: definitely improved since we came off the field in the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking forward to the draft. I think part

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Speaker 3: of it for me is I have no idea what

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Speaker 3: I mean there hasn't been a lot of noise this offseason.

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Speaker 3: But we talked to like Matt Mayoko the other day

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Speaker 3: and he says, you know, a lot of teams don't

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Speaker 2: Do they go another receiver, do they go offensive line,

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Speaker 2: do they go with a safety? Maybe?

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Speaker 3: Is there a position that you would love to see

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Speaker 3: them fill maybe early on in the upcoming draft.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean I've been surfing mock drafts ever since

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Speaker 4: the Super Bowl wrapped up, and so it's been definitely creative.

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Speaker 4: And what I look at are all the analysts from

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you I've seen it all. I've seen wide receiver,

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Speaker 4: I've seen safety, offensive line, defensive line. Not gonna lie.

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Speaker 4: As we get closer and closer to the draft, I

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Speaker 4: recent mock draft I looked at, it started getting a

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Speaker 4: as we get close to the draft. I thought, ESPN

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Speaker 4: Bill Barnwell, he did one where every single team traded.

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Speaker 4: It was definitely like a creative mock draft that when

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Speaker 4: If the forty nine ers were to trade, he imagined

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Speaker 4: twenty three with the Eagles, and the Eagle is getting

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Speaker 4: picked twenty seven, twenty seven, one thirty three, and he

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Speaker 4: mocked a wide receiver here, Denzel Boston, a wide receiver

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Speaker 4: at a Washington So really they could go in any

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Speaker 4: Lynch and Kyle Shanahan, I mean, I don't know that

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Speaker 4: twenty seven, But I think the Niners always like those

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Speaker 4: hard hitting guys on the D line, so I would

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Speaker 4: go D line, But we never know. I'm not John

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Speaker 5: Where we go with this, No, totally. So we know

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Speaker 5: about the travel this offseason where the forty Nitars have

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Speaker 5: to go to Australia Week one. I guess in December

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Speaker 5: they will go to Mexico City. But we got some

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Speaker 5: good home games and of course we'll get the full schedule,

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Speaker 5: I think in early May. But Levi's stadiums, you know,

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Speaker 5: Levis Stadium will see the defending champions this year, of course,

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Speaker 5: the Seahawks, the Rams, Eagles come to town, the Broncos,

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Speaker 5: the Raiders. So what do you think about the home

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's gonna be a total fun season for

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Speaker 4: this especially Levi's Stadium. And I think you know what's

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Speaker 4: so fun about being at home and Levis Stadium is

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Speaker 4: again the fans. Like we've talked about, I'm excited to

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Speaker 4: even when we're away. You guys remember last season when

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Speaker 4: how we completely took over in New York And how

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Speaker 2: All right, Brett, it was great to talk to you,

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Speaker 1: Leader Happy four to Niner day from your proud home

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Speaker 2: Thursday afternoon, four nine or day. How about that?

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Speaker 3: Have we done this before? Because here's here's my first

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know it would have to be relatively soon.

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Speaker 5: Not necessarily, because yes, I can't miss, but everybody we

436
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Speaker 5: always say that, but there's always rookies that are like,

437
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Speaker 5: we thought he was a can't miss and he's not

438
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Speaker 5: the same guy.

439
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Speaker 2: Sure, I know I hear you on that.

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Speaker 3: My point is like, if there was somebody that they loved,

441
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Speaker 3: were a couple of guys that they loved there, it

442
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Speaker 3: would make it easier for them.

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Speaker 2: To negotiate this situation with Trent. I think that said.

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Speaker 2: I hear you on that.

445
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Speaker 3: I think they'd rather have him, But I also think

446
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Speaker 3: why draft that piece now? If you if you don't

447
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Speaker 3: know how long Trent's gonna be here anyway, If you

448
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Speaker 3: think he's here and you know he's here, you know

449
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Speaker 3: he's gonna play it a better level than any of

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Speaker 3: the guys you'd draft anyway.

451
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Speaker 5: But I think they're tired of the song and dance

452
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Speaker 5: every offseason. Yeah where he's got one year left in

453
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Speaker 5: his contract there, and he's like, I want more money.

454
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Speaker 5: It's like, Trent, you're thirty eight years old, man, and

455
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Speaker 5: yes you are our best offensive lineman, but also we're

456
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Speaker 5: not gonna pay you top dollar. There's other guys in

457
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Speaker 5: this league at left tackle that should make more than

458
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Speaker 5: you think m close to. I think they are probably

459
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Speaker 5: something close to what LARRMYE. Tunzel got this offseason. But listen,

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Speaker 5: I hear what Matt is saying, and yes he is right.

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Speaker 5: You usually don't do that with offensive lineman, but I

462
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Speaker 5: want to give you one example. Olufashano. He was drafted

463
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Speaker 5: a couple of years ago by the New York Jets,

464
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Speaker 5: and he was one of the top left tackles in

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Speaker 5: all of the draft as far as prospects, and he

466
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Speaker 5: didn't start his first year, but the attention was that

467
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Speaker 5: he was just gonna sit on the bench and maybe

468
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Speaker 5: play him at left guard or right guard and then

469
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Speaker 5: you would find his spot. They had Tyron Smith and

470
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Speaker 5: they had Morgan Moses as their two tackles, and he

471
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Speaker 5: found playing time as rookie year because Morgan Moses got hurt.

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Speaker 5: Then eventually Tyron Smith retired and they went to Olufashano.

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Speaker 5: And you can make a lot of jokes about the

474
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Speaker 5: Jets and how dismal as a franchise, they're pretty centate

475
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Speaker 5: offensive line, and Olufashana was a good left tackle there.

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Speaker 5: So when you look at all of the offensive line

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Speaker 5: as far as like offensive tackles that are available in

478
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Speaker 5: the upcoming draft, there is a lot of guys in

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Speaker 5: as far as positions that there's plenty of in this

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Speaker 5: upcoming draft. I would say offensive line. I would say

481
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Speaker 5: defensive end, and I would say wide receiver, and I

482
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Speaker 5: think obviously the forty nine ers ne to go younger

483
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Speaker 5: wide receiver. But because of the depth there and so

484
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Speaker 5: many great players that are available in this draft, I

485
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Speaker 5: think you'll find that later on. I think you find

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Speaker 5: a cornerback later on. I brought up the name the

487
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Speaker 5: other day with Matt max Ihanachor and he is a

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Speaker 5: right tackle with the with the Arizona State now forks

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Speaker 5: out forks up.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't have a lot of playing experience, but hear

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Speaker 5: me on this, Okay. He just started playing football in

493
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Speaker 5: twenty twenty one. His background was playing basketball. He comes

494
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Speaker 5: from Nigeria. He goes to La to go to Juco

495
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Speaker 5: for a little bit of time and he plays basketball

496
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Speaker 5: and his basketball coach tells him he was love.

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Speaker 3: Nigeria Arrow La Juco, h Arrow, Arizona State left tackle.

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Speaker 5: He's been all over the place, rat, He's been all

499
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Speaker 5: over the place right mostly right tackle. But he was

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Speaker 5: playing out. Yeah, he was playing basketball uh in Juco

501
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Speaker 5: in La And the coach goes, listen, you're a great player,

502
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Speaker 5: but your frame and everything, dude, like you should be

503
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Speaker 5: a football player. So he starts playing football and then

504
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Speaker 5: within two years he transfers to Arizona State and they're like,

505
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Speaker 5: all right, we'll just throw you in the fire here,

506
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Speaker 5: and like you're you're big enough? Are you talented enough?

507
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Speaker 5: And he plays six games, starts five, and like all right,

508
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Speaker 5: we see something here. This kid developed over time. And

509
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Speaker 5: the big thing on him is he's huge. He's six six,

510
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Speaker 5: three hundred and twenty one pounds. Is he playing left

511
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Speaker 5: tackle though.

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Speaker 7: No, that's the thing.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So he's played right tackle mostly at Arizona State.

514
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Speaker 5: And I'm just going off of who's going to be available.

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Speaker 2: This is a guy that you're saying is a project.

516
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Speaker 5: He's definitely saying. He's definitely a project.

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Speaker 2: Draft him to be on the to be a backup

518
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Speaker 2: this year.

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Speaker 5: Yes, we're drafting him really to play left guard because

520
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Speaker 5: they still need in that position. But can he move

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Speaker 5: over to left tackle next year when maybe you move

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Speaker 5: on from a Trent Williams And the thing again, like

523
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Speaker 5: I'm not pushing Trent Williams out the door, but you

524
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Speaker 5: do need to come up with a secession plan when

525
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Speaker 5: it comes to Trent, because we've been doing this for

526
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Speaker 5: too long now, Like I know they're not happy about this,

527
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Speaker 5: even though they love having Trent Williams, but he's a

528
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Speaker 5: big dude. But you look at the other offensive linemen

529
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Speaker 5: that are available, Like there's Spencer Fano, there's Monroe Feely,

530
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Speaker 5: there's Kleb Leamo from a Utah, And these are guys

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Speaker 5: that could play lomu. He could either play left tackle

532
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Speaker 5: or guard. But I think he's gonna go. I think

533
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Speaker 5: he's gonna be gone before then. So this is a

534
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Speaker 5: guy that's a true project. And yes, he will be

535
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Speaker 5: at a position if you put him at left guard

536
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Speaker 5: the first year, where is he going? Where is he

537
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Speaker 5: going where? I think the later round, either first round

538
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Speaker 5: or early second round.

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Speaker 3: So you think the Niners would use a first rounder, Well,

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Speaker 3: I guess you're saying if they do that, they need

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Speaker 3: to start him at left guard this year.

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Speaker 5: Yes, And I have to look at you know, I'm

543
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Speaker 5: you know, I'm not gonna like I'm a draft scout

544
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Speaker 5: or anything, but like I need to know if this

545
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Speaker 5: guy can actually play left guard. But I'm thinking about

546
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Speaker 5: the long term future here when you think at when

547
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Speaker 5: you think about Trent Williams replacement, do you want that

548
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Speaker 5: guy to be just a dude that's in the second

549
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Speaker 5: round or the third round. I know you want a

550
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Speaker 5: guy that's playing first round, So I do think they

551
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Speaker 5: should consider that he has been mocked a couple of

552
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Speaker 5: times to the forty nine ers at the twenty seventh spot.

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Speaker 5: I think that you should consider it if there's a

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Speaker 5: you know, if there's other players that they get, if

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Speaker 5: there's a can't miss guy, a corner at twenty seven

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Speaker 5: that the Niners.

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Speaker 2: Are high on, they would take six picks too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I get it.

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Speaker 3: That's that's not I mean, I'm not counter. I'm just

560
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Speaker 3: saying when I think about how they'll spend them and

561
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Speaker 3: what they need, Like they need more edge rush for sure,

562
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Speaker 3: they need receiving help, they need a corner oline is there?

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Speaker 3: Is it the most pressing need? Like if we were

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Speaker 3: gonna rank needs, we should do this later. Yeah, we

565
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Speaker 3: should do this as another segment and how we rank

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Speaker 3: the needs at this point in the draft, Like, how

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Speaker 3: would you want to break down the draft and fill

568
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Speaker 3: out those six picks?

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I would say this offseason they addressed the

570
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Speaker 5: wide receiver room because the three guys you're gonna have

571
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Speaker 5: there mostly is Mike Evans, Ricky Piersoll and Christian Kirk.

572
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Speaker 5: But do you want to get younger there? Absolutely? Can

573
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Speaker 5: you find talent in the second round and third round

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Speaker 5: when it comes to wide receiver, yes, Can you found

575
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Speaker 5: talent when it comes to cornerback and the second round

576
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Speaker 5: and third round? Yes. I think when you're trying to

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Speaker 5: find the next Trent Williams, and I'm not saying this

578
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Speaker 5: kid's going to be, but he has the potential in

579
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Speaker 5: his frame and his build, I do think that you

580
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Speaker 5: shouldn't mess around there. You should go with a guy

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Speaker 5: in the first round.

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Speaker 3: Anaway Cambiar four and five eightyway five sixty two seven

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Speaker 3: the number to call and the number to text. You

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Speaker 3: agree with Derek, you think they should be looking for

585
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Speaker 3: the Trent replacement now or is it fill up on

586
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Speaker 3: this draft and other positions that you know you need

587
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Speaker 3: And then you know this is kind of the last

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Speaker 3: iteration of these guys, and then next year you're really

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Speaker 3: after it again for your new left tackle. Aightaway Cambiard

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Speaker 3: is the number to call into text. Sam Amock of

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Speaker 3: The Athletic is gonna join us here momentarily talking some

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Speaker 3: hoops for his Weekly Conversation plus Danny Emmerman at four thirty,

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Speaker 3: and our brand new segment Dear Derek Coming your Way

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Speaker 3: at five fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Dirty Work rolls with Derek from ded Derek, Why why

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Speaker 2: are we doing?

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Speaker 5: I don't know? For whatever reason? To sound like that

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Speaker 5: like the Stuart Smiley music on SNL Dead Derek. He

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Speaker 5: writes Marty, what's going on?

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Speaker 3: It's like video Marty dabbing his pen on his tongue,

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Speaker 3: Great to have you in person in the sun for

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Speaker 3: another Steph currylous warrior about execond just just as God intended.

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Speaker 2: Warriors and Lakers man, I mean, dude, he comes back

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Speaker 2: with like five left kind of.

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Speaker 6: True story, guys, And it's great to be with you

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Speaker 6: in person, of course. Uh, driving down, I shouldn't admit this.

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Speaker 6: I should do a better job at my job. I'm

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Speaker 6: driving down today and I had to be here anyway.

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Speaker 6: I want to see the Lakers that the playoffs are coming,

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Speaker 6: to check in with them, and I'm on the phone

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Speaker 6: with our Nick Fidell Athletic Lawyers beat writer, and he

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Speaker 6: casually is just like, ah, that is his game without stuff,

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Speaker 6: And I'm like, what stop playing?

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Speaker 2: What am I doing?

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Speaker 5: On a back to back where this could be the

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Speaker 5: last time that he and Lebron face off Warriors versus Lakers.

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Speaker 5: He decides for their teammates, right, yeah, exactly exactly. But

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Speaker 5: he's not gonna play to night and then tomorrow we's

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Speaker 5: gonna play against the Kings.

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Speaker 7: Come on, I mean, at least he's nice enough to

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Speaker 7: play in my town.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true, but that means you stay about you.

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Speaker 3: I want to get into that and we'll talk warrior warrior, uh, playoff, Well,

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Speaker 3: I'll stay playing in We'll talk big picture and playing

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Speaker 3: and all that in just a minute. But you mentioned

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Speaker 3: the game against Sacramento. In Sacramento, they gotta win stuff.

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Speaker 3: Second game back and great in the first game back,

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Speaker 3: by the way, I thought, yeah, what was it, twenty

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Speaker 3: nine points in twenty six minutes.

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Speaker 7: Amazing?

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Speaker 3: The plan was the last six minutes of each quarter,

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Speaker 3: and you finished the game and they had a chance.

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Speaker 3: They lost my point to a good Houston team, So

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Speaker 3: I thought that was a nice performance. I want to

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Speaker 3: get into the weird situation with Doug Christy at the

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Speaker 3: end of that game where they foul Seth Curry. They

654
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Speaker 3: put him at the free throw line and everyone's going,

655
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 3: what are you doing fouling? In that situation, Framont kind

656
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 3: of accused him of tankings and the league's got to

657
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 3: look into this. The league investigated, you had an article

658
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 3: on it, and apparently is not as it seemed.

659
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Speaker 7: And not as it seemed, and to look at it

660
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Speaker 7: through the Warriors filter.

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Speaker 6: Since we're here on camb Are, I don't think the

662
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 6: Kings are too thrilled with Draymond right now. I'm probably

663
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Speaker 6: not they feel like and I don't blame him. The

664
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 6: league and Adam Silver does have a pretty long track

665
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 6: record of overcorrecting when it comes to the reaction to

666
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 6: things that happened, whether it's something like Draymond postgame accusing

667
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 6: the Kings of tanking, or the social media discussion around

668
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 6: that situation which was really loud. So next thing, you know,

669
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Speaker 6: actually doing an investigation the King stance, which I definitely

670
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 6: believe and that you can have a whole Another side

671
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 6: discussion of what this says is that Doug Christie just

672
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 6: made a bad mistake. So the quick breakdown not to

673
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 6: get two in the weeds, but at three fifteen left

674
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 6: in the fourth and Kings are down one, I believe,

675
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 6: and Doug instructs Doug McDermott to foul Seth Curry, a

676
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 6: ninety percent free throw shooter. You guys know, on the

677
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 6: broadcast they were highlighting it, like what the heck are

678
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 6: they doing. Doug thought that he had a foul to give.

679
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 6: Doug didn't want to lose his third time out because

680
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Speaker 6: they once you get under three minutes you lose that

681
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 6: time out. He does this all the time, preserves the

682
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 6: time out because he wants to draw something for the

683
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Speaker 6: next possession.

684
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Speaker 7: Uh, he just screwed up. He thought they had a

685
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 7: foul to give. They didn't. Seth goes to the line.

686
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: He thought it was a hand to aide, right and

687
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 2: so and and for what it's worth.

688
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Speaker 6: And I do think, at least in terms of having

689
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 6: the investigation and the you know, kind of debate about

690
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 6: what really happened, he did that logic tracks through to

691
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 6: the next possession. He draws up a nice ato for

692
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 6: Doug McDermott. Corner three on the right side, go up

693
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 6: by two, I believe, or three. Uh, and so you know,

694
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 6: the best laid plans. He just screwed up. Thought they

695
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 6: had a foul the game.

696
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 7: They didn't.

697
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 2: So I mean two things true here. Not reassuring if

698
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 2: you're a Kings fan.

699
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Speaker 6: Like I said to someone earlier today, though like and

700
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 6: this is we joked off the air, maybe the first

701
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 6: time that I will defend Doug publicly, because I admittedly

702
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 6: you go back to when they fired Mike Brown and

703
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 6: elevated Doug.

704
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Speaker 7: I don't care what team it is.

705
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 6: I've never been a big fan of of you know,

706
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 6: coaches who just get the job a little bit through

707
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 6: the back door, and yeah, and that happened there, so definitely,

708
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 6: But it come when it comes to where we are now.

709
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 6: You look at it at the end of this season

710
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 6: and there's part of me that shrugs and it almost

711
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 6: feels for Doug where it's like, I don't I don't

712
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 6: know if you can coach because the roster is such

713
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 6: a mess.

714
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 7: Everything's been such a mess. Uh, you know, mistakes happen.

715
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 4: Uh.

716
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Speaker 6: Someone I talked to with the Kings joked about how,

717
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 6: like I bit you, I could find some mistakes that

718
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 6: Draymond made in the game, like does he not make mistakes?

719
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 7: And but this one was high profile, embarrassing.

720
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Speaker 6: Uh, you know, I I am glad the league didn't

721
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 6: find him, only because I hate to win. The league

722
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 6: does stuff just for the optics in the pr to

723
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 6: look like they're flexing, and that would have been wrong.

724
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 7: This didn't happen.

725
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 5: You mentioned the Kings are not happy with Raymond Green

726
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 5: bringing that up. I don't know if many players have

727
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 5: brought up tanking this season, but when Raymond Green brings

728
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 5: it up, of course, he's very vocally as a podcast.

729
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 5: Does the league kind of look into that, the fact

730
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 5: that Raymond Green, like a player of his magnitude, is

731
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 5: talking about what's going on with the NBA right now

732
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Speaker 5: with tanking.

733
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Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure.

734
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Speaker 6: I mean I think he gets you know, he has

735
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 6: got unk status, you know what I mean all the time,

736
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 6: and he has an informed point of view.

737
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 7: He is a very prominent, you know, influential voice in

738
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Speaker 7: the league.

739
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Speaker 6: But it was well beyond Draymond, as you guys know,

740
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 6: because you're on the social media side of things. I mean,

741
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 6: you had very high profile media members chiming in. It's

742
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 6: funny Rob Perez, who's what you would call a basketball

743
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 6: kind of commentator slash influencer. I mean he, to his credit,

744
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 6: Rob did a ten minute video breaking down this entire thing,

745
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 6: and one thing I loved about what he did was

746
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 6: he talked about you know, the I'm not even going

747
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 6: to name drop some of the accounts, but there's some

748
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 6: of these garbage accounts on social media that have perfected

749
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 6: the art of instantly reacting to things that happened to

750
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 6: get maximum engagement.

751
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 7: And some of the tweets that went out and just basically.

752
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 6: Said we've never seen tanking this bad, and they had

753
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 6: the clip without slowing down to add context and without

754
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 6: I joked with somebody else, I should be happy about this, guys,

755
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 6: because it's like job security for people like me, because

756
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 6: God forbid you get on the phone and start finding out,

757
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 6: like what actually happened.

758
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: He just posted video, and I know what happened.

759
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, they posted video. So this is the worst tanking

760
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 6: we've ever seen. It goes viral, people react to it

761
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 6: all over. Now you have a situation, you have a

762
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 6: fire you have to put out. Draymond added to the fire,

763
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 6: and the league obviously looked into it and took it

764
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 6: where they took it.

765
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Speaker 2: It reminds me a couple of years ago, Derek. I

766
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: don't know if you remember this.

767
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: It was a game where like it was when Trevor

768
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 3: Bauer was still pitching, and at one point he was

769
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 3: talking to the catcher while.

770
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: The hitter was up and he held up a number two.

771
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

772
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, people were going, wow, he's telling the batters throwing it.

773
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was telling the catcher, I want the second

774
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 3: set of signs with the runner around second. But piece

775
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 3: people on social made the same thing that I can't

776
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: believe he's to look at this is bad ass. He's

777
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 3: telling everybody what he's I'm a sound like I'm eighty

778
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 3: years old.

779
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 6: But it's the old saying about you know, a lack

780
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 6: and get halfway around the world before the truth has

781
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 6: a chance to put its pants on.

782
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 7: Like that's social media a lot of times.

783
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 5: Well we saw earlier this year when everything was going

784
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 5: down with Terry Rozier and Chauncey Billups, where people are

785
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 5: clipping things on social media and saying like, okd's pointing

786
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 5: some guy in the crowd, becau he's got money on

787
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 5: the game, Like that's that That's just ridiculous.

788
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it goes nowhere. It's start going to say

789
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 3: amicure of the Athletic. Uh, there's a great job cover

790
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 3: in the NBA. Check out that piece on the on

791
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 3: the Athletic dot com about uh, the Doug Christie not tanking.

792
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 7: Against the I know we're about to move on.

793
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 6: Did you enjoy the I I enjoyed writing the anonymous

794
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 6: quote that I used from the Kings of Fish said.

795
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 7: If we're if we're tanking, we're pretty bad. Yeah, pretty bad?

796
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 2: I did.

797
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 7: I did like that quit thirteen. I think in the

798
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 7: last trying to win.

799
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 2: He's we're not tanking.

800
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 3: Speaking of teams under five hundred, the Warriors have been

801
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 3: locked into this ten seed. When they'll play the Clippers

802
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 3: next week or Portland at Portland, this will be the

803
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 3: first time. I mean, I'd have to go back and

804
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 3: look at the last few years, but there was a

805
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 3: number of years when I was a kid, even in

806
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 3: through high school and in college, where teams that were

807
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: these seven and eight in the East were getting into

808
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: the playoffs at under five hundred. The first time I

809
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 3: can remember even a playing down here.

810
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: This bad for the Warriors. Is this an indictment on

811
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 2: the plan?

812
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 7: It's not a good look right now. I agree with

813
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 7: you know, Draymond.

814
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 6: Part of his kind of post game rant the other

815
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 6: night was at the play in is now working like

816
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 6: the Warriors specifically, and they're not the only team like this.

817
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 6: I don't remember ever a team being so locked in

818
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 6: standings wise that you have fifteen percent of the season

819
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 6: is like practice crazy.

820
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: There was nowhere to go.

821
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 6: If you're a Warriors fan, you just you come out

822
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 6: here tonight. You hope you see some entertaining plays. You

823
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 6: don't actually care the result. Yeah, So it's it's hard

824
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 6: to say if it's an indictment of the play in

825
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 6: long term, because we've had so many good play in moments.

826
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 6: It's been fantastic, you know, for a lot of its life.

827
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 6: And I feel like there's teeter totter thing happening, whether

828
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 6: it's playing, whether it's sixty five game rule. It's wild

829
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 6: because one second you'll see, like I like the sixty

830
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 6: five game rule. When they put it in, I was

831
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 6: tired of load management. I thought they needed to do something.

832
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 6: Now it's a complete train wreck this year. So I

833
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 6: don't know the future the play and you know, they're

834
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 6: talking about some plans where you could even extend that

835
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 6: out and make an even deeper playoff field. I think

836
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 6: that's a bad idea, but I don't know right all

837
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 6: I know right now it's kind of ugly.

838
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, Draymond not excited about the play in, but he

839
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 5: also talked about his future, and I think most Warrior

840
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 5: fans are kind of focused on that right now, not

841
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 5: really the end of this season. What happens this offseason

842
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 5: and Draymond Green a recent interview I believe with Tim

843
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 5: Kamacamie was talking about the ideal scenario this offseason with

844
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 5: his player option. He said, well, in a perfect world,

845
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 5: I would love my agent, Rich Paul to be with

846
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 5: me here talking about this. But in a perfect world,

847
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 5: I would like to opt out and extend with the Warriors,

848
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 5: and I'm not sure the Warriors want to do that

849
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 5: at this point. What do you make of Draymond Green's

850
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 5: future right now?

851
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 7: I feel like they're you know, it's funny.

852
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 6: I talked to Draymond early in the season about this,

853
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 6: and you know, he said this a lot like that

854
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 6: idea that they have such relationship, kind of synergy and

855
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 6: chemistry between them, with all the history between the organization

856
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 6: and him, that they can find something that works for

857
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 6: both sides.

858
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 7: Into his credit guys, as a quick as side, I've.

859
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 6: Never covered a player who is so savvy in this

860
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 6: regard to On Calakomis past Tim's podcast, he talked about

861
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 6: like just very clear eyed about how he's manicuring this

862
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 6: part of his relationship with the Warriors because he's humble

863
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 6: enough to know that if you don't play this right,

864
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 6: they will kick you out of town so fast, because

865
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 6: you know, if you're if you're a net negative, and

866
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 6: he's trying not to be that. He wants to be

867
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 6: here until the end of his career. Contract wise, I

868
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 6: think they get something done if I got to handicap it. Now,

869
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 6: it's tricky because of the Porzingis situation. You know they're

870
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 6: going to be kind of dipping out of the same

871
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 6: pool money wise, But there's so many kind of things

872
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 6: up in the air about the summer, so who knows.

873
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 7: But as far as the vibe and and do they

874
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 7: want drain I want to continue here. I definitely think

875
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 7: they do talk going to.

876
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 3: See I may have care of the athletic on the

877
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 3: Arman guest line, but sitting next to us here at

878
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 3: Harmonic Brewing, we just.

879
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 2: Call it that.

880
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 3: Dude, did you we talked to you a couple of

881
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 3: weeks ago, or maybe it was last week. We asked

882
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 3: you about the reports and rumors around Kawhi and you said,

883
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 3: I feel like it's it's more noisy now, Like you

884
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 3: feel like, did you did you look into this or

885
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 3: did you find anything else out about it? The legitimacy

886
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 3: of it, or where where the Clippers side would have

887
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 3: been on this.

888
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean they talked for sure, spinning it forward

889
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 6: somewhat surprisingly. I thought when we talked about that that

890
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 6: it was gonna be one of those kind of irons

891
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 6: in the fire that they put right back in in

892
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 6: the summertime.

893
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 7: That's not the messaging that we're getting.

894
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 6: It's they're acting very measured about this summer that really

895
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 6: the list of Giannis is still at the top of

896
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 6: the list, Like that's the guy you blow everything up for.

897
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 6: If the Bucks end up looking your direction and saying,

898
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 6: we like what you can bring to the table. Uh,

899
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 6: the Kawhi one still doesn't seem as pressing or as

900
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 6: much of a priority. I'm still fascinated by it, didn't.

901
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 4: You know?

902
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 6: The intel I've gotten is on the warrior side, not

903
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 6: necessarily in the Clipper side. They're a little busy with

904
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 6: the you know, over these days, try not avoid the capitol. Yeah,

905
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 6: it's also like, and I don't know what that deal

906
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 6: would look like. I was actually thinking about it on

907
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 6: the drive down. You know, one of the warriors at

908
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 6: least one of the major pieces would be going back

909
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 6: to the Clippers and something like that. You know, whether

910
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 6: it's Jemmy or or Draymon. But you know, fit wise,

911
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 6: you would have to figure that out. Be honest, is

912
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 6: such an easier fit to slide right into what they're doing.

913
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 6: You know, I'd be curious to see what it looked

914
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 6: like around Kahi.

915
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 5: You mentioned Lebron James. He could be a Golden State

916
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 5: Warrior with him hitting free agency this offseason. But with

917
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 5: Luka Doncic injured now and Austin Reeves injured for the Lakers,

918
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 5: is there a possibility that if Lebron James looks like

919
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 5: Lebron James it takes this team further into the postseason,

920
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 5: that he could return as a Laker.

921
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 7: I think so.

922
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 6: I didn't think that a couple months ago. I also

923
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 6: think that honestly, everything's on the table. If you know,

924
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 6: I think he could still walk away. I think his

925
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 6: off court life and I'm talking family, business, all the

926
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 6: above and mainly family is something that we need to

927
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 6: make sure we keep not glossing over because when we

928
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 6: I mean, I've written like some other folks that Cleveland

929
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 6: and Golden State around the NBA are considered the two

930
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 6: most likely landing spots. Now, obviously a Warrior's logistically, you know,

931
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 6: living in LA coming up to play for the Warriors,

932
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 6: that's a little easier.

933
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 7: But like this man is an extremely involved dad and

934
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 7: everything you.

935
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 6: Hear like he does not want to be away from

936
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 6: his family. So yes, the Laker thing is all of

937
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 6: a sudden. He took that third option role, he thrived

938
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 6: in it. They need him more than ever now. I

939
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 6: think that could change the mood in the room. And

940
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 6: if you play for Cleveland or the Warriors, guys, you're

941
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 6: gonna lose a whole lot of money compared to what

942
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 6: he's used to making. And that's the other aspect here

943
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 6: is that if the Lakers are willing to put something

944
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 6: real on the table, I think he would look at

945
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 6: that first.

946
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 5: And as far as the injury is going on with

947
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 5: the Lakers and across the league, how much is that

948
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 5: can impact the postseason where Kate Cunningham just came back

949
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 5: last night. But we saw that Jewell Embiid, I guess

950
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 5: has a penacitis and we'll see how he's for how

951
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 5: long he'll be out for?

952
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: Oh, I've had that, that's not too bad.

953
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 6: No, But then I didn't play hoops after the look

954
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 6: I just shot you was I literally just did another podcast.

955
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 7: My wife had one and I was dassing her up

956
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 7: in a good way. She struggled.

957
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 3: It was it was honestly no joke. It was the

958
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 3: most painful thing I've ever experienced. Like, yeah, perforated. I

959
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 3: had a fever like one hundred and four. If they

960
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 3: didn't know what was going on, first they sent me

961
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 3: to a hospital, went to another one, and then they're like,

962
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 3: oh no, that thing bursts and you gotta get that out.

963
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 6: It's and I'm not a doctor, but when you add

964
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 6: like about one hundred and fifty pounds, you know, love

965
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 6: Joel is a big fellow.

966
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like and like for movements on top of

967
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 2: me too. So anyway, match your question.

968
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 5: I was just saying how much they can impact the

969
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 5: posts when you see these big stars like Luca and

970
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 5: Austin Reeves and of course you well and b being out.

971
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 6: For the re seeable future. No, it's unfortunate. I mean,

972
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 6: I'm glad that Cade's back. You know, Austin is going

973
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 6: to be a while, Luca is off. You know, I'm

974
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 6: gonnahoot next thing. You know, he's going to go from

975
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 6: Europe to the Moon to try to find some treatment here. Yeah,

976
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 6: at that part sucks.

977
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 7: You know.

978
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 6: We were talking off air Derek and how I still

979
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 6: might go down and cover the Lakers if they have

980
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 6: the rockets, because you got Lebron but it takes some

981
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 6: juice out because the Lakers are they were in that

982
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 6: second tier. At one point they won seventeen out of

983
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 6: nineteen games. Injuries are always unfortunate. I mean Wenby having

984
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 6: the the rib contusion. I think he'll be back, but

985
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 6: like that's you want guys to be ready to roll,

986
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 6: even Steph. I mean you look at and I know

987
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 6: he's down at that bottom of this playoff discussion this

988
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 6: team wise, but like Steph is still limping into the playoffs,

989
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 6: trying to get comfortable, so you know, hopefully we.

990
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 7: Don't have too many guys missing.

991
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 3: I was asking Derek this earlier and we had to

992
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 3: ted Raimi was filling in with me Monday, and I

993
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 3: was throwing this at him because you know ten Seed Warriors,

994
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 3: like you're saying, nobody coming out tonight.

995
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: You're not going anywhere.

996
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 3: You just know who your one of your next two

997
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 3: opponents are going to be at Portland or at LA.

998
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 3: I was asking ten like, is there anything Steph could

999
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 3: do that would be like a legacy type stuff's thing

1000
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 3: in the in the play into the playoffs? He said,

1001
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 3: is there anything that would even make me think differently

1002
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 3: about the magic going into next year And the only

1003
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 3: thing I could come up with is they win the

1004
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 3: two playing games, they get into the playoffs, and he

1005
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: takes okay see to the brink. Now do I think

1006
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 3: they could do that as constructed? Not totally, But it's

1007
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 3: also foolish to write off Steph Curry. That would be

1008
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 3: something that I'd go, Man, he still got the ability

1009
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 3: to carry a team at least that far. We saw

1010
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 3: it last year against Minnesota when he went down, they

1011
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 3: just kind of they didn't have the shots. So is

1012
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 3: there anything like that in your mind that would that

1013
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 3: would say, Okay, that's that magic is still there for Steph.

1014
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 2: He still got that prime ability to carry a team.

1015
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 6: Like, no, there is I thought you were gonna go

1016
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 6: a little further, and you know, never say that. No,

1017
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 6: just say, at least knock somebody if.

1018
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 3: They win that opening round, like if they go to

1019
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 3: a seven, if they took okay, see to the brinker

1020
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 3: the game seven, that you win three games against them

1021
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 3: in a best of seven or even eliminate them and

1022
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 3: have a we believe type warrior feel.

1023
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. It's something. It's something that

1024
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 2: of that magnitude that would have to.

1025
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 6: Happen well, and I hesitate to keep plugging our buddy

1026
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 6: TK with his pod. But yeah, I'll tell him to

1027
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 6: thank me later. But like, but Draymond in that interview

1028
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 6: kind of had me convinced to your question. He talked

1029
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 6: about like the playoff experience they have, the history they have,

1030
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 6: and how I don't know if you guys heard this

1031
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 6: part of the story. He told about how the year

1032
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 6: that they wanted over the Celtics twenty twenty two, and

1033
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 6: he told the buddy of his like, right before the playoffs, Hey,

1034
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 6: we're gonna go see F one racing pretty soon. This

1035
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 6: team has no shot, like he told a friend that

1036
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 6: the shot and after the first playoff game he's like.

1037
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 7: Bro, I ain't gonna see you like we got Yeah.

1038
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 6: So, like you, they have a unique history and the

1039
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 6: type of swagger and confidence that like you can never

1040
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 6: say never.

1041
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 7: I think that part's fun. Do I think they're gonna

1042
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 7: do it?

1043
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 4: No? I know.

1044
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know, even the Rockets game you mentioned

1045
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 6: Steph providing those kinds of moments. You know, if if

1046
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 6: all tell these ifs, if porzingis is healthy, if these

1047
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 6: guys can show out, you know, maybe they can have

1048
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 6: a little fun and in.

1049
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 5: That same interview with Tim Kelacami and Draymond. Draymond, well,

1050
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,919
Speaker 5: I'm just saying that I'll just us up the question here.

1051
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 5: Draymond's talking about.

1052
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 7: The Athletic NBA Daily Podcast. Now exactly get some other

1053
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 7: plugs in there, Yeah, we should.

1054
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 5: Draymond did say that he only wants to play for

1055
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 5: one coach with the remain of his time with the Warriors,

1056
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 5: and that Steve Kerry and all the indications are that

1057
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 5: Steve Curer's gonna come back next season for a last

1058
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 5: dance type run. But do you think that as long

1059
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 5: as Steph and Draymond are around, they're gonna keep pushing

1060
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 5: for this where yes, maybe Steve just wants to do

1061
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 5: one more season, but if Steph reups, if Draymon rees reups,

1062
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 5: it's gonna be hard for Steve to say no to

1063
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 5: those guys.

1064
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure.

1065
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 6: I mean, like if you have if you're looking at

1066
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 6: the pie of factors, yeah, for Steve, Yeah, it's never

1067
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 6: gonna be the whole pie, but it's a piece, you know,

1068
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 6: It's always gonna be a piece. Like it's the most

1069
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 6: unique relationship of relationships in the NBA right now. And

1070
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 6: I'm trying to think of other examples. You know, Lebron

1071
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 6: has jumped around so much, he doesn't have that connection

1072
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 6: with one particular coach. You know, Eric Spolstra, maybe with

1073
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 6: mam Adebayo, but they haven't won a championship together. So

1074
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 6: you know, Steph and Draymon and Steve they have done

1075
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 6: incredible things. And then you talk about Steph and Steve

1076
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 6: with Team USA and just so many chapters and layers

1077
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 6: to it. Steve's gonna always have a hard time walking

1078
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 6: away if those guys are involved.

1079
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 5: One more for you, Sam. I think kind of shocked

1080
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 5: everybody on Monday when it was a now the Michael

1081
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 5: Malone was going to be a next head coach of

1082
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 5: North Carolina basketball and I kind of always anticipated that

1083
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 5: he go back to the NBA. Did the league kind

1084
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 5: of get where with? They kind of shocked by that

1085
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 5: news that he was going to stick around and maybe

1086
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 5: go to the Pelicans some other team.

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Speaker 6: I think so, Yeah, his name only I think hit

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Speaker 6: the media in relation to that job two days before,

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Speaker 6: you know, so it was pretty quiet. Yeah, I kind

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Speaker 6: of love it because I think Michael's a great coach.

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Speaker 6: I know him pretty well. He is like arguably the

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Speaker 6: most intense coach that I've ever come across, and at

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Speaker 6: times that was an issue.

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Speaker 7: He runs too hot for a lot of people's taste.

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Speaker 6: And honestly, not to over generalize, I know the college

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Speaker 6: game has changed, but it is still a place where

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Speaker 6: it's okay to have the coach be the biggest ego

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Speaker 6: in the room and they are the superstar. And I

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Speaker 6: think that's going to work better at UNC. His daughter

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Speaker 6: is a volleyball player out there. That's something else I

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Speaker 6: know that he's excited about.

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Speaker 7: So we'll see.

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Speaker 6: I mean that even beyond UNC, I think that trend

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Speaker 6: of having just more NBA people in the college space,

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Speaker 6: in the NAL era we're in is fascinating.

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Speaker 7: So we'll see how he does.

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Speaker 3: Sam Amic the voice you here, we do them every

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Speaker 3: single week here covers the NBA for the Athletic and

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Speaker 3: you know what, dude, make sure you're checking out the

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Speaker 3: NBA Daily podcast on the Athletic Podcast Network wherever you

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Speaker 3: get your podcast.

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Speaker 2: Sam always appreciate the time. Appreciate you guys. See you

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Speaker 2: next week. Thanks you. We got plenty more to come.

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Speaker 2: Are got.

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Speaker 3: Danny Emmerman's gonna joined us in just a few minutes

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Speaker 3: when we come on back a bit on Steph as

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Speaker 3: the greatest face of the franchise ever.

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Speaker 2: We'll do that next on The sports Leader