1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Senate Bill twenty eight twenty blocks qualified officers to rise 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: up again and serve. So what this bill basically does 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: is it says, if you were employed by ice between 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: this time and that time, and I believe it's between 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: January twentieth of twenty five and twentieth of twenty twenty nine, 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 1: which would put you basically in the Trump years, you 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: are not qualified to be hired as a law enforcement 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: officer in the state of Illinois. It's ridiculous, it's discrimination. 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: It is what it is. Let's start there with our friend, 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: Chief Tom White's a former police chief Riverside. You see 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: him on TV all the time. Chief, it's been a minute. 12 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: How are you, sir, Hey, good. 13 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: Morning, I've been great. Thanks for having me on. 14 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: We'll talk about the ridiculousness here. I mean, a qualified 15 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: officer is a qualified officer. You can't do this. 16 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: Now, this is absolutely unconstitutional and it's biased. Without a question, 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: you can't. You can't just wave a wand across a 18 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: whole group of people. Imagine if they had done this 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: type of proposed legislation and to anybody that was a minority, 20 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 2: or they did it to doctors or lawyers or anybody 21 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: it would be. But the legislation, you're exactly right, it 22 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: keeps qualified ICE agents only during the Trump administration through 23 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: the end of the Trump administration at least that's the proposal. 24 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: From being law enforcement in Illinois, and that includes any 25 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: law enforcement local, state, county, colleges, university police, any certified 26 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: police agency in Illinois would be barred from hiring f 27 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 2: a former ICE agent. And remember, some of these ICE 28 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: agents currently working are from our US military. They put 29 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: in time as MPs in the military, or they're working 30 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: in different branches to the military. When they get out 31 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: of the military, they go to federal policing and then 32 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 2: they say, you know, later on, like maybe I'll go 33 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: back to my home state and be a local police officer. 34 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: And this would tell them. 35 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 3: You can't do that, Chief, I mean to that point, 36 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: I mean, this is discrimination double I mean not only 37 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: towards the law enforcement office, sir, but you're discriminating against 38 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 3: former military It's just it doesn't make any sense. 39 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and these politicians here in Illinois that say we 40 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: support the military, I can tell you the law enforcement 41 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 2: gets a lot of police officers from the military. They 42 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 2: make real former military officers and former military personnel make 43 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: great police officers. They have military bearing, they understand shane 44 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: of command, that they're well trained or physically fit. So 45 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 2: then we're just saying you cannot be a police officer 46 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: in Illinois when we're having a difficult time recruiting and retaining. 47 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: You know, you talk about what's going on, and Nick's 48 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 1: been reporting in his news. You're going to hear about 49 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: it as you roll through the day today. But the budget, 50 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: the shutting down of the government. Okay, government shutdown is over. 51 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: But the caveat there is they kick the can down 52 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: the road with two weeks of funding left for Homeland 53 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: Security and ICE because they want Republicans to come to 54 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: the table and basically defund those two agencies. Make no 55 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: mistake that they also want to defund the police. Democrats 56 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: have been talking about this. They're not even hiding from it. 57 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: They've been talking about it. Pre George Floyd, Where does 58 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: this get us? 59 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 2: Chief? 60 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: Because I just don't understand why, And it's part of 61 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: the social contract we like to talk about here. We 62 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: want to be safe in our neighborhoods. Neighborhoods deserve to 63 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: be safe. Every day somebody's getting shot in Chicago, and 64 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,119 Speaker 1: somebody's crying about it, but nobody cares like they do 65 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: if somebody gets shot by an officer who's resisting arrest 66 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: and using a car as a projectile in Minneapolis, and 67 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: it leads us down this path of stupidity, where does 68 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: this end up? What do these people want? 69 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: You know? To your point, people thought there is this 70 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: outrage that's somehow the police are, whether it be federal 71 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: or local, or abusing citizens residence ridiculous offices. You know, 72 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: just this month, there's been twenty four police officers shot 73 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: in align of duty across the United States. Three killed. 74 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: Just went up this week because you may know that 75 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: in Peoria, a Peoria County deputy was shot with this 76 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: week in Peoria, Illinois. 77 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: Good looking to a young man twenty four. 78 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, these are the excellent officers that we're trying to attract, 79 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: and they're working in a state that demonizes policing, demonizes 80 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: law enforcement, tries to pass anti police legislation. Yet someone 81 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: like the deputy in Peoria County, who if you've seen 82 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: his photo that they released, he's a twenty four year 83 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: old deputy committed to policing in Peoria County. He's still 84 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 2: out there doing the job even though our politicians are 85 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 2: slamming police. That's one reason, you know, I accepted a 86 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: position for I'm a fellow now with a Wake Illinois 87 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: and we're really working on this Senate builting. We're trying 88 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: to tell residents to go to their website at a 89 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: Wake Illinois. We have a petition up to send a 90 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: Laura Fine to say not only forget this bill, pull 91 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: the bill, like pull the bill, don't even send it forward. 92 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 2: It's about as discriminatory as can be. 93 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: We like Shannon and the group there at Awake Illinois. 94 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: This is Chief Tom Whitzel. So this was introduced by 95 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: Senator Laura Fine. She's on a glen View co sponsored 96 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 1: by Emil Jones, Sarah fig Holes and Lakeisha Collins. I 97 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: would not be opposed to WLS listeners calling these offices 98 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: and say what are you doing? And again, Senator Laura 99 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: Fine is the one that introduced this. This state is 100 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: going down a trajectory of stupidity, and it's going to 101 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: happen on the first eighty degree day. Somebody's going to 102 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: be some young girl is going to be sitting in 103 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: the front of her house and she's going to get 104 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: shot by a stray bullet, and people are going to go, 105 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: why did this happen? Why? Because we do not prosecute 106 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: criminals or criminality here in this state. And it continues 107 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: to just spin around this and I don't know what 108 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,799 Speaker 1: the payoff is. I don't know how this helps this city. 109 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: I don't know who's getting paid off or where the 110 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: money's coming from. But you're running people off, You're running 111 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: people out of this town, You're running people out of 112 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: this state. And I don't know how this helps any 113 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: of us, because Nick, you and I have been in 114 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: these neighborhoods and we know that ninety nine point nine 115 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: percent of these folks are good, hard working people. These 116 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: are neighborhoods that they've grown up in, they live there, 117 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: it's their place. They can't help but that there's a 118 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: bunch of idiots running around with guns that want to 119 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: partake in gang activity, but we don't seem to want 120 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: to concentrate on that. And Chief, I don't get it. 121 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't know why anybody'd want 122 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: to be a cop, but God bless those that do. 123 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: I always appreciate the visit. 124 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much. Make one comment. Just yesterday 125 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: on the Laura Faying issue, the Chicago Tribune endorsed her. 126 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: Yes, they did. 127 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: I posted on my execon she had. This isn't the 128 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: only anti police legislation. She supported the Clean Slate Act. 129 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 2: There's much more. So the Chicago Tribune editorial comes out 130 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: supporting an individual who doesn't do anything for public safety 131 00:06:58,960 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: in Illinois. 132 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: I picked up the Tribune on Saturday in one of 133 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: my neighbor's driveways, and I didn't want to take it 134 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: because that had been stealing and I'm a law and 135 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: order guy. But there was a headline and on the 136 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: inside there was a brochure for Danley Garages, and then 137 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: I think that was about it. There's nothing there anymore, right, 138 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: It's absolutely crazy. Yeah, newspapers. Well, boy, I appreciate you. 139 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you Chief, Thank you Franks for having 140 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: me a great morning.