WEBVTT - Chasing My Intellectual Tail

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the

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<v Speaker 1>George Washington Broadcast Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now,

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<v Speaker 2>here's Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>And for the conspiracists out there, just to be clear,

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<v Speaker 3>we have been there before.

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<v Speaker 4>We absolutely have been to the moon. We went there

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<v Speaker 4>in 1969. You know, people ask, why is it that

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<v Speaker 4>it's so hard for us to do if we did

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<v Speaker 4>it way back in 1969? And what you have to

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<v Speaker 4>know is we spent 3% of GDP when we did

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<v Speaker 4>it in 1969, almost 3% of GDP. So it was

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<v Speaker 4>very expensive. Today, we're going to do it at a

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<v Speaker 4>much lower cost, and we're going to this time go

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<v Speaker 4>to the moon to stay. It won't just be a

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<v Speaker 4>mission and leave. It'll be a real sustainable lunar base.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's how we'll really explore the moon and find

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<v Speaker 4>interesting things.

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<v Speaker 2>Brett Baer on Special Report last night did an extended

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<v Speaker 2>interview from the Blue Origin headquarters near Cape Canaveral with

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<v Speaker 2>Jeffrey Bezos.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeffrey!

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's the fella. Jeffrey Bezos! Exactly. The founder of Amazon.com,

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<v Speaker 2>Blue Origin, and Prometheus, which is an interesting company, too.

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<v Speaker 2>I tell you what, Jeff Bezos needs to do more

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<v Speaker 2>long-form interviews like that, maybe podcasts, maybe the Armstrong and

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<v Speaker 2>Getty show, and fewer, like, photo ops on his yacht

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<v Speaker 2>with his enhanced-lipped trophy wife. And his shirt off. Because, well,

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<v Speaker 2>he had a tight black T-shirt on because, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>he did, Jack. The aging man who hits the gym

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, outfit of choice. What's the point of hitting

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<v Speaker 2>the gym if you're not going to let people know

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<v Speaker 2>you're hitting the gym? You're not wrong. You are not wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>But he should do more interviews. He came off as

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<v Speaker 2>the sort of guy who invents amazingly new, efficient, innovative things.

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<v Speaker 2>He's relentlessly positive, super imaginative. And while he certainly seems

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<v Speaker 2>to enjoy his wealth, he's a perfect example of what

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<v Speaker 2>Elon Musk talks about. Yeah, I made a ton of money.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm planning and now I'm plowing it all into

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<v Speaker 2>all this stuff. And this stuff's amazing. I mean, his

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<v Speaker 2>enthusiasm is for exploring and learning and innovating is it's just, it's,

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<v Speaker 2>it's awesome to be old. Honestly, it is kind of interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>The hatred toward the super rich when you've got Elon

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<v Speaker 3>and Bezos, and you could use Warren Buffett as an example,

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<v Speaker 3>lives in his tiny house and drives an old car.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the crowd that hates on the billionaires, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of the most prominent billionaires are so not the.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of people that you portray them to be.

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<v Speaker 3>They're giving back to the world in all kinds of

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<v Speaker 3>different ways.

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<v Speaker 2>But, um, I thought that was interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know we spent three percent of our GDP

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<v Speaker 3>to get to the moon.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And to your point, while he certainly seems to enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>his wealth, he's also put twenty three billion dollars of

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<v Speaker 2>his own money into Blue Origin because he's so excited

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<v Speaker 2>about space travel.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, one thing I don't I've never completely understood.

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe he speaks to this. Maybe he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>So is he in contact with Elon and his plans

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<v Speaker 3>for the base on the moon and getting to Mars

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<v Speaker 3>or NASA or any of the other entities that are?

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<v Speaker 3>Are they all doing this independently? And, you know, somebody

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<v Speaker 3>lands there. Hey, wait a second.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to land there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you? Well, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's funny. I kept waiting for Brett to ask him.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about what SpaceX and Elon Musk are doing and

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<v Speaker 2>what you think of it and how it meshes with

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<v Speaker 2>what you're doing. Were you coordinating in any way? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all centered around and coordinated with NASA. They have

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<v Speaker 2>different parts of the puzzle that they're working on, from

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<v Speaker 2>what I understand. But yeah, I was surprised they never

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<v Speaker 2>got to that because it was the first thing that

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<v Speaker 2>popped into my mind. But anyway, back to the interview

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<v Speaker 2>with Bezos. We'll play clip number 30. Brett is asking, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we've been to the moon before. Why bother?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm really glad to see the country put their

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<v Speaker 4>energy behind the moon. Look, it's not good to skip steps.

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<v Speaker 4>In general, you don't want to skip steps. And we'll

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<v Speaker 4>go to Mars. We'll do all the other things. But

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<v Speaker 4>we need to go to the moon first. The moon

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<v Speaker 4>is a gift. It's only three days away from Earth.

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<v Speaker 4>You get there in three days and you don't need

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<v Speaker 4>to wait for special launch windows. And it has all

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<v Speaker 4>these resources that we can utilize. And it takes 28

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<v Speaker 4>times less energy to lift something off the moon because

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<v Speaker 4>of its lower gravity than it does to lift something

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<v Speaker 4>off the Earth. So the resources, you know, we're working on,

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<v Speaker 4>for example, building solar cells. We here at Blue Origin,

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<v Speaker 4>building solar cells out of lunar regolith, out of the

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<v Speaker 4>dirt that's on the moon. It's 20% silicon. It's very

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<v Speaker 4>easy to do this. So we can make solar cells

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<v Speaker 4>on the moon. We can make liquid oxygen on the moon,

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<v Speaker 4>which is a rocket propellant. We can find water on

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<v Speaker 4>the moon. There's all sorts of things. And it's a

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<v Speaker 4>natural body. So when we go explore it, there are

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<v Speaker 4>going to be positive surprises. So, yes, we should be

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<v Speaker 4>going to the moon. I'm glad to see that happening,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm glad everybody's coming.

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<v Speaker 3>Regolith is a word I became aware of fairly recently.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a big word in the world of getting to

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<v Speaker 3>the moon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah. It means just like the dusty dirt, right?

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<v Speaker 3>Sharp little dusty rock dirt, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, fair enough. I call it gravel on Earth.

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<v Speaker 3>But a lot of it is really... Well, it's so fine.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess it's a pretty big problem. It's so fine

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<v Speaker 3>to keep it from gunking up everything.

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<v Speaker 2>All the time. But it's full of a lot of.

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<v Speaker 3>Your minerals that we're mining here on Earth that we

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<v Speaker 3>need to become super wealthy.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent, regolith knowledge. So a couple of things. Number one,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to skip steps, was a veiled shot

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<v Speaker 2>at Elon Musk, I believe. and his constant talking about

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<v Speaker 2>going to Mars, but very veiled. Second, Elon will challenge

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<v Speaker 2>to fight him. Jeff, you're one of the richest people

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<v Speaker 2>on Earth. Join me in my crusade against effing, expressing

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<v Speaker 2>fractions as multiples. It's 28 times lighter. Do you mean 128th?

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<v Speaker 2>I despise that. All right. What would be if it's weightless?

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<v Speaker 2>How would you express that? Oh, my God. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>it's idiotic. The things that work you up. Anyway, at

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<v Speaker 2>least I can order my liquid IV and get it

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<v Speaker 2>like the next day. Let's see. Then he talks about

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<v Speaker 2>how their goal is to fly every day and make

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<v Speaker 2>this a super regular thing. All reusable components are to

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<v Speaker 2>the extent that that's conceivable. And Brett then asks him

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<v Speaker 2>about flying constantly.

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<v Speaker 3>So it will happen in our lifetimes where there's just

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<v Speaker 3>there's spaceships taken off every single day, maybe multiple times

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<v Speaker 3>a day. Maybe it's like Southwest out of Burbank going

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<v Speaker 3>to the moon and back. And if you're rich, you

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<v Speaker 3>can go sometime if you want. How cool would that be? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Here he's he's talking about the question of making lots

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<v Speaker 2>of money and Why billionaires are demonized in today's society. 33, Michael.

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<v Speaker 4>One thing to really think about is that all civilizational wealth,

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<v Speaker 4>draw the box very big, all civilizational wealth comes from invention.

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<v Speaker 4>So 6,000 years ago, somebody invented the plow. And when

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<v Speaker 4>they did, we all got wealthier. And then much later,

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<v Speaker 4>somebody invented the steam engine. And when they did, we

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<v Speaker 4>all got wealthier. And that cycle has continued. And what

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<v Speaker 4>we want to do is speed that up, speed up

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<v Speaker 4>the rate of invention. So use AI to make physical things.

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<v Speaker 4>And we're going to make the tools so easy to

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<v Speaker 4>use that anyone will be able to be an engineer.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I wish we had the clip of

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<v Speaker 2>was he was talking about how you become a billionaire.

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<v Speaker 2>And he gave the example of the Cane's Chicken people.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>And he said, look, they started a chicken restaurant people

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<v Speaker 2>really like, so they opened up another one, and they

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<v Speaker 2>really love that. Now they're employing 300 people, and they

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<v Speaker 2>opened 10 more, and people still really love the chicken.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the guy's a billionaire. He says, what in the

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<v Speaker 2>world is wrong with that? Yeah, no kidding. Why would

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<v Speaker 2>you demonize that? You're demonizing coming up with chicken people

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<v Speaker 2>really like to eat? What the hell? It's, well, it's envy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the politics of envy.

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<v Speaker 3>And opening stores and paying taxes and hiring people and,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, buying chicken and chairs and paint.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's ridiculous to be against that. Yeah, you want

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<v Speaker 2>to start a charity that feeds, clothes, and medicates hundreds

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<v Speaker 2>of families for decades? Start a successful business. Anyway, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to know, Jack, if you find this at all

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<v Speaker 2>compelling or comprehensible to Brett is asking him about will

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<v Speaker 2>AI create a labor shortage? 35, Michael. You said AI

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<v Speaker 2>is going to create a labor shortage.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard you talk about this a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I feel this very strongly. What I would say

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<v Speaker 4>about AI is what's going to happen is, again, it's

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<v Speaker 4>because of the productivity. So because of the productivity in

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<v Speaker 4>the economy, many people are going to decide. Let's say

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<v Speaker 4>you have a two-earner income household. One of those people

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<v Speaker 4>is likely, you're not going to need to have a

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<v Speaker 4>two-earner income household. If you want to have it, fine,

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<v Speaker 4>you'll have it. But if you don't want to have it,

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<v Speaker 4>one of the people might drop out. Some people will

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<v Speaker 4>also decide, you know what, I can support my family

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<v Speaker 4>working three days a week. That's what productivity in the

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<v Speaker 4>economy means. And so people, I think you're going to

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<v Speaker 4>have a labor shortage. It's going to actually be difficult

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<v Speaker 4>to hire people because the productivity in the economy is

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<v Speaker 4>going to make it so that if people don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to work two jobs, they won't have to.

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<v Speaker 2>You hear the fear out there, though. Oh, yes. On

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<v Speaker 2>a number of fronts.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>The fear about AI and the fear about jobs. Of course.

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<v Speaker 4>And I understand it because a lot of smart people

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<v Speaker 4>are prognosticating that. I just happen to disagree with those

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<v Speaker 4>smart people.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>That goes against what society has done over the last

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<v Speaker 3>half century or more. We're all living, most everybody's living

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<v Speaker 3>much worse wealthier lifestyle than our parents and grandparents did.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't decide... You know, a thousand square feet and

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<v Speaker 3>a kind of car ago that this is enough. Only

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<v Speaker 3>one of us will work now. We decided we want more.

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<v Speaker 3>We want a bigger house. We want more cars. We

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<v Speaker 3>want nicer vacations.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. So I don't understand. A lot of people have, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Most people.

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<v Speaker 3>There's plenty, plenty of people that could live the way

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<v Speaker 3>you and I, our parents lived if they wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>have one parent working, but they don't want to live

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<v Speaker 3>that way. So I don't know why Jeffrey Bezos thinks

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to all of a sudden change into human

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<v Speaker 3>beings where we decide we've got enough.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why that would happen. You know, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a really interesting philosophical point. I think it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>beside his point, though, which is that you'll have that option. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying you got that option now. No, as opposed

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<v Speaker 2>to massive society ruining unemployment, which is what we're always

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<v Speaker 2>talking about. That's interesting. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So that on its own, the fact that you've got

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<v Speaker 3>several of the smartest people in the world, their guesses

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<v Speaker 3>about this and they are guesses are that wildly different

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<v Speaker 3>that there will be nobody will have a job or

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<v Speaker 3>there'll be there won't be enough people to hire. There'll

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<v Speaker 3>be so many jobs. So, yeah, I mean, that's. Somebody's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody's wrong. Brett asks him about government regulation, Michael, in 36.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you think should happen?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, look, let's back up a bit and look at

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<v Speaker 4>this thing. Regulation is very useful. Government regulation can be

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<v Speaker 4>very useful if it's done in a light way and

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<v Speaker 4>done in a smart way. And where sometimes regulation goes wrong,

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<v Speaker 4>especially when people are scared, you know, reacting emotionally and

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<v Speaker 4>so on, is they want to try to regulate the

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<v Speaker 4>underlying thing instead of the applications of the thing. And so,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the simple example I could give you would be,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you don't want to regulate knives. You want

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<v Speaker 4>to regulate murder. So, you know, you can use a

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<v Speaker 4>knife to murder somebody, but you don't want to say

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<v Speaker 4>the solution to that is to eliminate knives. You want

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<v Speaker 4>to say, let's make murder illegal. And the same thing

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<v Speaker 4>is true with AI and its applications.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I wish everybody believed you. They do regulate knives,

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<v Speaker 2>which is dumb. Yeah, certainly in some settings, yeah. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>he said build orbital data centers if people don't want

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<v Speaker 2>them in the suburbs and that sort of thing. He

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<v Speaker 2>addresses a lot of different things. Yeah, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>hear more of that stuff actually later. Yeah, Hanson, find

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 5>To right field. This should do it. Tucker is there.

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<v Speaker 5>The quest for the three-peat rolls on. The Dodgers are

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<v Speaker 5>headed back to the NLCS.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Dodgers one step away from another World Series. So is

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<v Speaker 3>it Dodgers-Brewers for the NLCS?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we got going on here? Indeed.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that'll be a fun series. And then Rays. It's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be Rays who? White Sox. Oh, no, that

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<v Speaker 2>series not over yet. Right. I don't know. I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>really been following it.

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<v Speaker 3>White Sox are the best story out there. If they

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<v Speaker 3>end up going for the role, I have to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about that. So I got on this topic last night.

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<v Speaker 3>I've mentioned before that I lost my ability to taste

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<v Speaker 3>sweet because of COVID. My kids believe I'm lying about

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<v Speaker 3>this for some reason. I don't know why I would

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<v Speaker 3>make this up. I feel like that would make me

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<v Speaker 3>a crazy person.

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<v Speaker 2>Seems like an odd line to bother with.

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<v Speaker 5>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 3>But, uh, for instance, last night we're at the dinner

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<v Speaker 3>and my son ordered something called dragon fruit punch or

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<v Speaker 3>something like that to drink. And he said, oh, this

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<v Speaker 3>is one of the best drinks I've ever had in

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<v Speaker 3>my life.

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<v Speaker 2>And I took a sip of it and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so sweet though.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, wow, it's got, it's sweet because I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't taste any sweet whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>And, uh, it just reminded me that I, that I

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<v Speaker 3>can't taste sweet. So I did a little research on that. Um,

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<v Speaker 3>for those of you out there who, who maybe have

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<v Speaker 3>lost some taste or all of your taste, About a

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<v Speaker 3>third of people who got COVID experienced some change in taste.

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<v Speaker 2>About a third. Yeah, I lost my taste in art.

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<v Speaker 2>I just watched McHale's Navy all day long. Hey-o! Oh, boy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. You only listen to Britney Spears now. That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>So about a third of people had some effect of

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<v Speaker 3>their taste when they got COVID, and then about half

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<v Speaker 3>of those.

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<v Speaker 2>uh had a.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh it continued it didn't go away so about half

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<v Speaker 3>of those it stayed and then of those that it

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<v Speaker 3>stayed it's it's different there's complete loss like you can't

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<v Speaker 3>taste anything which was about 28 that would suck i

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<v Speaker 3>can't even imagine what it would be like to not

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<v Speaker 3>taste anything i don't know maybe it wouldn't suck i

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<v Speaker 3>have no idea but um it would be weird can

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<v Speaker 3>you imagine putting food in your mouth and it has

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<v Speaker 3>no flavor or anything you drink it would just.

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<v Speaker 2>Be weird to lose any of your senses does not

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<v Speaker 2>sound like a good thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, and then about a third of those, this is

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<v Speaker 3>of people who lost taste, which is a third. And

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<v Speaker 3>then about half of those, it was permanent. And then,

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<v Speaker 3>so it goes down there. And so distorted versus, um, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>losing it completely verse. And then, uh, only about half

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<v Speaker 3>of those, you're breaking it down even further, ever get

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<v Speaker 3>it back.

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<v Speaker 2>And I, my, the doctor told me I'm probably never

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<v Speaker 2>going to get it back.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll never taste sweet again in my life. Um, 40%

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<v Speaker 3>lost sweet. This doesn't add up right, but 71% lost salty.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a more common one. 32% lost bitter. 22%

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<v Speaker 3>lost sour. And we got into a discussion last night

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<v Speaker 3>what would be the worst or the least bad. I

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<v Speaker 3>think losing salty would be horrible. First of all, what

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<v Speaker 3>I have learned from losing sweet, everybody tells me, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I wish that would happen to me. Yeah, I thought that, too.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's the opposite. You eat more sweets. Your brain

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<v Speaker 3>wants sweet or we need sweet or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>And my brain doesn't feel like I'm getting any sweet.

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<v Speaker 3>So I eat more. I want more donuts and stuff

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<v Speaker 3>like that than I ever did before. Would that happen

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<v Speaker 3>with salty? Probably the same. You need a certain amount

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<v Speaker 3>of salt. You just be bags of potato chips or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>That wouldn't be great. No, no, no, no, no. Which

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<v Speaker 2>would your least? Sour, bitter, salty, or sweet? How about umami?

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<v Speaker 2>Because that's one of the tastes, isn't it? They now say.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what that is. Gosh, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never thought about it. It's a strange question and off-putting.

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<v Speaker 2>I refuse to answer. That's an odd stance. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have the slightest idea. I think loose and salty would

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<v Speaker 2>be horrible. Yeah, it would probably lead to bad things,

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<v Speaker 2>I would guess.

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<v Speaker 3>Just have a mound of salt on top of everything

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<v Speaker 3>you eat, trying to get some salt.

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<v Speaker 2>This segment brought to you by Dr. Fauci's House of

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent point. Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 1>The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 2>So I heard the.

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<v Speaker 3>Tease of this story last night. I haven't actually heard

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<v Speaker 3>the story. So that scumbag woman in Tennessee who they

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<v Speaker 3>tried to euthanize, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't pull it off. Execute. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And she's still alive. She woke up and she spoke

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<v Speaker 3>her first words. And I can only assume her first

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<v Speaker 3>words were, where's that phlebotomist? I'm going to kill him.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But this new story will have the actual first words.

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<v Speaker 8>Our understanding was the first thing she said was, where

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<v Speaker 8>am I and who are you? There's still a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of cognitive confusion, and so I will say that. She

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<v Speaker 8>has wanted to know what's happened, and she's asked about

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<v Speaker 8>several people. She's asked about her team.

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<v Speaker 2>She's asked about the victim's family.

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<v Speaker 8>I think she is angry and confused about everything right now.

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<v Speaker 3>She asked about the victim's family. Give me a break.

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<v Speaker 2>That's her lawyer. Maybe she did. Maybe she didn't. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't trust these guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Trying to argue that they shouldn't try to kill her

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<v Speaker 3>again or that she shouldn't be killed at all. And

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<v Speaker 3>then the other side, I heard that lawyer say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we're absolutely going to try again.

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<v Speaker 2>To execute her.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I got a little bit into I didn't go

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<v Speaker 3>very far into the actual crime she committed that got

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<v Speaker 3>her onto death row. It's pretty, pretty horrific. Here's something

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<v Speaker 3>I did not know till yesterday. Because there was an

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<v Speaker 3>attempt to portray this as, she was 18 when she

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<v Speaker 3>committed the crime. That was a long time. She was young, blah, blah, blah. She,

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<v Speaker 3>not that long ago, 2004, when she was not an 18-year-old,

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<v Speaker 3>tried to kill somebody in prison.

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<v Speaker 2>Hadn't heard that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, attacked someone and tried to kill him in prison. So,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not really the way you act if you're just...

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<v Speaker 3>On drugs and off the rails. And you had a

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<v Speaker 3>horrible upbringing, which she did. And you've turned yourself around.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know where I go back and forth a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit on the death penalty. My main thing being, though,

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't bother me a lot. I mean, of all

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<v Speaker 3>the things there are to worry about in the world,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to spend a tremendous amount of time

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<v Speaker 3>on that one. Assuming they've gone through all the procedures,

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<v Speaker 3>which we do to make sure everybody's guilty. The expense

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<v Speaker 3>of it, though. It is, even in California, it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>The fact that we do the whole death penalty thing

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<v Speaker 3>in California the way we do and put up with

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<v Speaker 3>it as taxpayers, what a racket that is.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly what it is. It's a scam.

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<v Speaker 3>And nobody ever gets executed. But even in states where

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<v Speaker 3>they do eventually execute people, I don't know how you

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<v Speaker 3>make the argument that we come out ahead. What is

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<v Speaker 3>the goal of the death penalty for most people? Do

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<v Speaker 3>you mean the purpose of it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Is it deterrence? The person ends up dead is

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<v Speaker 2>obviously the goal.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's putting it very plainly. As a society, what

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<v Speaker 3>is the point? Is it deterrence? Is it justice?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it... What is it? It's practically useless as deterrent.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I've always thought. That's what I've always thought. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're actually... You know, psychologists have studied deterrence now, and

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<v Speaker 2>we have a pretty decent understanding. And the certainty of

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<v Speaker 2>the sanction is an enormous factor in whether something's a

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<v Speaker 2>deterrent or not. And the idea that, yes, I will

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<v Speaker 2>be caught, I will be arrested, I will be tried,

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<v Speaker 2>I will be convicted, I will be sentenced to death,

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<v Speaker 2>and that will actually be carried out is hilariously low,

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<v Speaker 2>the odds of that. So it's a combination of retribution,

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<v Speaker 2>alleged deterrence, and deterrence. That person shouldn't be around to

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<v Speaker 2>hurt any more people. They've lost their pass for life.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm anti-death penalty at this point in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>I was pro most of my life, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's just a whole bunch of things added up to

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<v Speaker 3>enough for me to be against it personally. Part of

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<v Speaker 3>it being the whole retribution thing. I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 3>healthy for a society to think that we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>get some sort of feeling or outcome or whatever out

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<v Speaker 3>of snuffing the person. I just don't think that's healthy

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<v Speaker 3>for an individual or a society. You know, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>perfectly fine if you disagree. I can understand why you disagree.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have, it's not out of compassion for these

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<v Speaker 3>people that I, and then, again, for me, it's just

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<v Speaker 3>all of them added together because I got a certain

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<v Speaker 3>percentage of I don't think it's good for society to

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<v Speaker 3>think that we'll feel better once they're dead. I don't

0:23:20.130 --> 0:23:22.310
<v Speaker 3>think that's good for us. Then you add that in

0:23:22.350 --> 0:23:26.090
<v Speaker 3>with should the state be taking a life? And then,

0:23:26.250 --> 0:23:28.550
<v Speaker 3>you know, and then a couple other things. And for me,

0:23:28.630 --> 0:23:31.800
<v Speaker 3>I get over 50 percent of the cost as taxpayers

0:23:31.820 --> 0:23:33.520
<v Speaker 3>since it's just ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I've been chasing my intellectual tail on this topic

0:23:37.859 --> 0:23:41.040
<v Speaker 2>since I was a teenager. I've thought about it and

0:23:41.060 --> 0:23:42.700
<v Speaker 2>thought about it and thought about it. And I just

0:23:42.800 --> 0:23:47.430
<v Speaker 2>I'm not I don't feel strongly in either direction, honestly. Um, the,

0:23:47.510 --> 0:23:49.689
<v Speaker 2>the people who are taking time bombs and a constant

0:23:49.730 --> 0:23:54.149
<v Speaker 2>danger to prison guards, for instance, they're dead enders, they're psychopaths. Um, and,

0:23:54.310 --> 0:23:58.010
<v Speaker 2>and it's almost impossible to safely contain them and keep

0:23:58.050 --> 0:24:01.859
<v Speaker 2>them alive. Uh, those guys, I wonder how many of

0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:07.360
<v Speaker 2>those people say goodnight. I don't know. I don't know. Uh, yeah, it's, it's,

0:24:07.540 --> 0:24:10.100
<v Speaker 2>it's a tough one. Uh, you know, you could look

0:24:10.140 --> 0:24:13.210
<v Speaker 2>at a human history and, and execution has been absolutely, uh,

0:24:13.450 --> 0:24:16.790
<v Speaker 2>everywhere all the time, practically in human history. On human history,

0:24:16.810 --> 0:24:21.580
<v Speaker 2>I'd say mostly poorly done. Yes, and I would agree.

0:24:21.619 --> 0:24:24.360
<v Speaker 2>And if I was going to become an anti-death penalty activist,

0:24:24.380 --> 0:24:27.699
<v Speaker 2>which is unlikely because there are about 137 causes in

0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:31.000
<v Speaker 2>front of it in line, I would point out, so

0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:34.320
<v Speaker 2>the same people who run the DMV and run the

0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:37.080
<v Speaker 2>welfare systems that are constantly defrauded and are supposed to

0:24:37.100 --> 0:24:39.200
<v Speaker 2>be fixing the roads and then they raise the taxes

0:24:39.260 --> 0:24:42.380
<v Speaker 2>over and over again and they never fix the effing roads, blah, blah, blah.

0:24:42.700 --> 0:24:44.879
<v Speaker 2>They're in charge of taking a life, huh?

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<v Speaker 3>On the other hand, again, that's a pretty good point

0:24:50.830 --> 0:24:53.680
<v Speaker 3>right there. You might add another few percent to my

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<v Speaker 3>why we shouldn't do it. So the people that come

0:24:56.359 --> 0:25:00.830
<v Speaker 3>up with the idea of a bullet train, for instance,

0:25:01.180 --> 0:25:04.430
<v Speaker 3>or handled COVID the way they did, all those people,

0:25:04.530 --> 0:25:06.909
<v Speaker 3>they're supposed to be in charge of whether or not

0:25:06.930 --> 0:25:07.510
<v Speaker 3>we take lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy, the COVID one. Oof, you hit me right in

0:25:10.220 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 2>the midsection. Ooh, like about a COVID.

0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:14.780
<v Speaker 3>How about a lot of you really hate us saying this,

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<v Speaker 3>or me in particular saying I'm mostly, if I had

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<v Speaker 3>to pick one, I'd be against it.

0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 2>And I would have been more... You have to understand.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, sorry.

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:27.889
<v Speaker 3>I would have been in your position when I was younger, definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no... And like I said yesterday, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>worried about it.

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<v Speaker 3>You got somebody that's gone through the whole process of

0:25:34.030 --> 0:25:36.310
<v Speaker 3>appeals and they're guilty right now, I could flip the switch...

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<v Speaker 3>pull the trigger whatever it is today and have no

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:41.660
<v Speaker 3>problem with it i don't care about them being dead

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 3>at all so it's not now i see i i

0:25:45.140 --> 0:25:48.550
<v Speaker 3>could i could not say that really well i i

0:25:48.590 --> 0:25:50.670
<v Speaker 3>think i could maybe i'm lying to myself but i

0:25:50.710 --> 0:25:53.690
<v Speaker 3>think i could i think i don't know what kind

0:25:53.750 --> 0:25:55.850
<v Speaker 3>of how are we killing them in this scenario so

0:25:55.890 --> 0:25:59.170
<v Speaker 3>i can actually imagine i've got it to be fair

0:25:59.210 --> 0:26:02.139
<v Speaker 3>i'll let you choose Well, usually it's lethal injection in

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<v Speaker 3>the modern world, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, fair enough. Could I push the plunger? Hell yeah.

0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:07.220
<v Speaker 2>And not even think about it again the rest of

0:26:07.260 --> 0:26:12.260
<v Speaker 2>the day, I think. Well, okay. All right, great. I disagree.

0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:13.640
<v Speaker 2>If I've read about their crime.

0:26:14.340 --> 0:26:14.540
<v Speaker 5>Sure.

0:26:14.660 --> 0:26:17.720
<v Speaker 2>I got somebody who committed a horrific crime of passion

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:21.880
<v Speaker 2>35 years ago, and they now look back at that

0:26:21.940 --> 0:26:24.100
<v Speaker 2>time the way I look back at being 18. I

0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:27.300
<v Speaker 2>know it happened to me, but it seems like it

0:26:27.340 --> 0:26:30.860
<v Speaker 2>happened to somebody else. And they say, I'm at peace now.

0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:34.060
<v Speaker 2>I've apologized to the victims. I think God has forgiven me.

0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:36.230
<v Speaker 2>I'm ready for this. And as the light goes out

0:26:36.250 --> 0:26:38.350
<v Speaker 2>of their eyes, you wouldn't think about that ever again.

0:26:38.410 --> 0:26:42.419
<v Speaker 2>It wouldn't affect you. I wonder how often that is

0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:47.420
<v Speaker 2>the case. Well, it takes an enormously long time to

0:26:47.460 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 2>execute anybody in this country. So I think it's the

0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 2>case a lot, but certainly not universally. I mean, I

0:26:54.500 --> 0:26:57.359
<v Speaker 2>can think of exceptions to that. I mean, well, I

0:26:57.380 --> 0:27:00.080
<v Speaker 2>will commit especially horrific, brutal crimes and rapes and that

0:27:00.140 --> 0:27:01.919
<v Speaker 2>sort of thing. I'd be like, you know, this is

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:03.830
<v Speaker 2>a heavy thing and it's an awful thing and a

0:27:03.930 --> 0:27:06.290
<v Speaker 2>sad thing, but it's got to happen. And I could

0:27:06.390 --> 0:27:07.060
<v Speaker 2>live with it.

0:27:07.250 --> 0:27:09.790
<v Speaker 3>If I was going to say something provocative. In an

0:27:09.850 --> 0:27:13.390
<v Speaker 3>argumentative way, I would not in talk radio. I would

0:27:13.410 --> 0:27:15.750
<v Speaker 3>think I would say anybody who says they couldn't do

0:27:15.770 --> 0:27:17.750
<v Speaker 3>it themselves should be against the death penalty.

0:27:20.070 --> 0:27:22.670
<v Speaker 2>Hmm. Not sure I agree with that one either.

0:27:24.990 --> 0:27:26.920
<v Speaker 3>If you couldn't do it, then that means you don't

0:27:27.020 --> 0:27:28.560
<v Speaker 3>think it's something.

0:27:28.940 --> 0:27:29.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:27:29.500 --> 0:27:31.920
<v Speaker 3>I'd have to think about this to form my argument.

0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:38.330
<v Speaker 2>It's a great discussion. That's a great philosophical discussion. But

0:27:38.510 --> 0:27:42.619
<v Speaker 2>I suspect very strongly, as I have as an individual,

0:27:42.660 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 2>we will chase our tails for a very long time

0:27:44.540 --> 0:27:47.440
<v Speaker 2>and not come to anything close to a conclusion. Although

0:27:47.580 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 2>conclusions aren't the point of discussions like this.

0:27:49.580 --> 0:27:54.379
<v Speaker 3>As a society, though, we have decided for now that

0:27:54.420 --> 0:27:56.480
<v Speaker 3>it's OK if your state's OK with it.

0:27:57.290 --> 0:27:59.450
<v Speaker 2>Well, right. I was going to say it varies very

0:27:59.490 --> 0:28:02.030
<v Speaker 2>much state by state. And even in states that, quote unquote,

0:28:02.050 --> 0:28:04.530
<v Speaker 2>have the death penalty, as you pointed out, often it

0:28:04.590 --> 0:28:08.270
<v Speaker 2>doesn't happen because they're secretly really against it. The fact

0:28:08.310 --> 0:28:11.490
<v Speaker 2>that we just want to enrich dry lawyers in California.

0:28:11.810 --> 0:28:12.109
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:28:12.630 --> 0:28:12.810
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:28:12.850 --> 0:28:16.109
<v Speaker 3>How many people who are for the death penalty are

0:28:16.190 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 3>only for it because they're part of the multimillion dollar

0:28:19.730 --> 0:28:22.580
<v Speaker 3>industry that benefits from it? Knowing not many people are

0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:23.939
<v Speaker 3>going to get snuffed and those do.

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 2>What do I care? I mean, they're incredibly cynical. Oh, yeah.

0:28:26.859 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 2>It's tens of millions of dollars at stake. Oh, my God. Uh.

0:28:31.150 --> 0:28:34.310
<v Speaker 2>It's not like there's a lot of raw materials involved.

0:28:34.630 --> 0:28:37.700
<v Speaker 2>We've got to get paper pulp and combine that with

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 2>soybeans and rubberized. No, it's all going to lawyers.

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 3>All of it.

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:48.010
<v Speaker 2>Except the court clerks and the judge.

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:50.450
<v Speaker 3>You made a point that I often make, although I'd

0:28:50.510 --> 0:28:53.290
<v Speaker 3>never made it around the death penalty before. One thing

0:28:53.310 --> 0:28:55.170
<v Speaker 3>that has happened to me as I've gotten older, as

0:28:55.270 --> 0:28:57.190
<v Speaker 3>at this point in my life, and I don't know

0:28:57.210 --> 0:28:59.190
<v Speaker 3>if it happens this way for everyone, but for me...

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:04.300
<v Speaker 3>Things that happened when I was younger, including like.

0:29:04.180 --> 0:29:06.700
<v Speaker 2>My 20s and even 30s. Yes.

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:11.340
<v Speaker 3>Are like I read a short story about them and

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 3>I was the person. That's why it feels as a memory.

0:29:14.820 --> 0:29:15.030
<v Speaker 5>Yes.

0:29:15.370 --> 0:29:18.730
<v Speaker 3>It's like it didn't even I only know about it

0:29:18.790 --> 0:29:21.490
<v Speaker 3>because it's in my head as a story I read.

0:29:22.010 --> 0:29:23.930
<v Speaker 3>But I was the person that's that's the way the

0:29:23.970 --> 0:29:24.729
<v Speaker 3>memory feels.

0:29:25.420 --> 0:29:29.140
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember what age Churchill cited, but he has

0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:32.310
<v Speaker 2>a famous quote where he says, look upon a picture

0:29:32.330 --> 0:29:35.790
<v Speaker 2>of yourself as an 11-year-old. You have absolutely nothing in

0:29:35.870 --> 0:29:38.390
<v Speaker 2>common with that person except that you are the same person.

0:29:39.450 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 2>And that's the way the memories feel sometimes. Sure, yeah.

0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:47.580
<v Speaker 2>Here's the deal. I could make what I believe would

0:29:47.620 --> 0:29:50.660
<v Speaker 2>be a very powerful and persuasive argument in favor of

0:29:50.740 --> 0:29:54.340
<v Speaker 2>the death penalty and one every bit as robust against

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 2>it and mean every word of all of them. That's

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:02.560
<v Speaker 2>where I am. And I think if I'm if I

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 2>lean against it, ultimately, it's out of a founding fathers

0:30:07.460 --> 0:30:10.350
<v Speaker 2>are my heroes, as are a lot of the great

0:30:10.390 --> 0:30:16.490
<v Speaker 2>thinkers of liberty throughout history. I mistrust the government. I

0:30:16.550 --> 0:30:20.230
<v Speaker 2>want the government to have as limited power powers as possible.

0:30:20.570 --> 0:30:23.750
<v Speaker 2>And I want those powers to be scrutinized constantly as

0:30:23.790 --> 0:30:26.250
<v Speaker 2>they exercise them. And to give them the ultimate power

0:30:26.290 --> 0:30:29.550
<v Speaker 2>makes me uncomfortable. But I totally get people who are like, oh,

0:30:29.630 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 2>all right, this guy, look what he did. Look what

0:30:31.340 --> 0:30:33.120
<v Speaker 2>he did. Oh, yeah. Jury of his peers over and over.

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:34.620
<v Speaker 2>They said he did this. Get rid of him.

0:30:34.860 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:30:35.100 --> 0:30:37.980
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I agree with you now. The libertarian position is

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:40.460
<v Speaker 2>generally against, right? Yes.

0:30:40.540 --> 0:30:42.180
<v Speaker 3>Because the government shouldn't have that power.

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. All right. That makes sense to me also.

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:30:45.580 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of crime. So picture this. Your phone rings. It's

0:30:48.860 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 2>your bank calling you and they know everything about you

0:30:51.220 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 2>like your bank does. Last four year social. The rest

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:56.489
<v Speaker 2>of it. It's totally legit. Except it's not. It's not

0:30:56.530 --> 0:30:58.870
<v Speaker 2>your bank. It's a scammer who bought all of that

0:30:58.990 --> 0:31:00.870
<v Speaker 2>info from a data broker.

0:31:01.330 --> 0:31:04.670
<v Speaker 3>Man, your name, your address, the last four of your social,

0:31:05.260 --> 0:31:07.820
<v Speaker 3>all that sort of situation that somebody could hit you

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:10.780
<v Speaker 3>with and convince you that, oh, okay, well, this is legit.

0:31:11.260 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 3>The fact that it's floating around out there and for

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<v Speaker 3>sale really sucks. That's why I'm using Incogni. Incogni sends

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is really fantastic. You could never accomplish this

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<v Speaker 3>Certainly the Tennessee woman has brought the conversation back again,

0:31:48.130 --> 0:31:50.500
<v Speaker 3>the whole death penalty thing. So I'm just throwing this

0:31:50.580 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 3>out as a text line question.

0:31:52.820 --> 0:31:53.260
<v Speaker 2>Could you.

0:31:53.930 --> 0:31:58.110
<v Speaker 3>Pull the trigger, push the plunger, pull the thing. I'm

0:31:58.150 --> 0:32:00.610
<v Speaker 3>picturing the electric chair. That one would be a little hard.

0:32:00.630 --> 0:32:03.150
<v Speaker 2>Does it make a noise? It makes a hell of

0:32:03.190 --> 0:32:05.390
<v Speaker 2>a lot of noise, yeah. Can I be in another room?

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:07.960
<v Speaker 2>But could you do that?

0:32:08.060 --> 0:32:09.820
<v Speaker 3>Text line 415.

0:32:09.820 --> 0:32:18.060
<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, sorry. Text line 415-295-KFTC. In particular, a woman

0:32:18.220 --> 0:32:22.620
<v Speaker 2>who committed the horrific crimes when she was 18... the

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 2>victim of repeated rape and abuse as a child, a

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:33.900
<v Speaker 2>twisted psyche, clearly. Could you do it to her? And

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:35.900
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying nobody could. A lot of you could.

0:32:37.580 --> 0:32:39.640
<v Speaker 2>But that's the case we're talking about, so we might

0:32:39.660 --> 0:32:40.850
<v Speaker 2>as well go into the particulars.

0:32:41.660 --> 0:32:43.460
<v Speaker 3>But then I am okay with locking her in a

0:32:43.540 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 3>dank cell for the rest of her life with no

0:32:45.620 --> 0:32:46.180
<v Speaker 3>freedom whatsoever.

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:48.020
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't need to be dank. It can be perfectly

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 2>well lit and dry. What are you, the Count of

0:32:51.700 --> 0:32:55.010
<v Speaker 2>Monte Cristo over here? You got iron masks in your

0:32:55.070 --> 0:32:57.870
<v Speaker 2>world or what? I want dankness.

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<v Speaker 7>Beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Be interested to see these texts. Stay tuned. Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 6>After prison officials botched execution attempts, convicted murderer Christophe Pike

0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:23.719
<v Speaker 6>is now conscious and talking. Doctors say her condition has

0:33:23.780 --> 0:33:29.700
<v Speaker 6>just been upgraded from brain dead to Jasmine Crockett. Although

0:33:32.500 --> 0:33:35.540
<v Speaker 6>the death row inmate did receive a card from the governor.

0:33:35.980 --> 0:33:37.320
<v Speaker 3>It said, get well soon.

0:33:38.220 --> 0:33:40.060
<v Speaker 2>So we can try and kill you again.

0:33:44.340 --> 0:33:47.790
<v Speaker 3>Which is accurate. I mean, that is exactly. We're doing

0:33:47.850 --> 0:33:49.610
<v Speaker 3>our best. We have the best doctors on this so

0:33:49.630 --> 0:33:51.410
<v Speaker 3>we can get you healthy enough and up and around

0:33:51.470 --> 0:33:52.350
<v Speaker 3>so we can kill you.

0:33:53.050 --> 0:33:56.970
<v Speaker 2>Right. You'll be receiving all sorts of brain counseling and

0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:59.620
<v Speaker 2>rehab and everything. So you understand exactly what's happening. Then

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 2>we'll snuff you again. So I got a pretty big

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 2>debate in Michigan tonight.

0:34:03.580 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 3>El Sayed, the Islamo fascist, I think, candidate who's pretending

0:34:08.580 --> 0:34:11.610
<v Speaker 3>to be a socialist running as a Democrat against Mike Rogers.

0:34:11.630 --> 0:34:13.330
<v Speaker 2>They're debating. That could be a good debate.

0:34:13.430 --> 0:34:17.489
<v Speaker 3>And then this weekend, Lindsey Graham's sister is debating that

0:34:17.550 --> 0:34:18.490
<v Speaker 3>other woman, Dr.

0:34:18.590 --> 0:34:19.410
<v Speaker 2>Annie Andrews.

0:34:20.050 --> 0:34:23.609
<v Speaker 3>And that race is within the margin of error. Most

0:34:23.650 --> 0:34:25.870
<v Speaker 3>people think because of South Carolina's history that.

0:34:27.190 --> 0:34:27.350
<v Speaker 2>Ms.

0:34:27.390 --> 0:34:29.730
<v Speaker 3>Graham will still pull it out, but it's a lot

0:34:29.750 --> 0:34:32.930
<v Speaker 3>closer than it ought to be. And people keep saying, well,

0:34:32.969 --> 0:34:35.230
<v Speaker 3>it's been close in the past, and Lindsey Graham always

0:34:35.250 --> 0:34:38.620
<v Speaker 3>pulled it out. Yeah, Lindsey Graham was Lindsey Graham. His

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:43.580
<v Speaker 3>sister is not Lindsey Graham. Wall Street Journal's article about this,

0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 3>on July 30th, this column, says the Wall Street Journal,

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<v Speaker 3>stressed that endorsements... uh, of Lindsey Graham's sister riskiness and

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<v Speaker 3>noted several unanswered questions among them. Might she meaning Ms.

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<v Speaker 3>Graham get in front of a news camera or on

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<v Speaker 3>a debate stage and bungle so badly that an adversary

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<v Speaker 3>features her in an ad. And so it came to pass.

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<v Speaker 3>There are ads out there from her opponent that feature

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<v Speaker 3>this moment from the last debate.

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<v Speaker 7>Senator are Taiwan and the South China sea national security

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<v Speaker 7>issues for the United States. If so, why, um, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 7>could you repeat the question? Are Taiwan and the South

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<v Speaker 7>China Sea national security issues for the United States?

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<v Speaker 4>And if so, why or how?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm just going to be honest here. I'm not on

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<v Speaker 7>national security. I'm not that informed on national security. But

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<v Speaker 7>I do support the military.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, as the Wall Street Journal said, Ms. Graham couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>so much as fudge an answer to a question on Taiwan.

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<v Speaker 3>National security is not my thing, she said. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's disqualifying, but you know, you do, it is a

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<v Speaker 3>binary choice. And that other one has got all kinds

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<v Speaker 3>of wacky socialist, big government, Medicare for everyone positions, so.

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<v Speaker 3>It'll be interesting to see. Now, the question is, can Ms.

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<v Speaker 3>Graham get out of the debate this weekend without taking

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<v Speaker 3>another giant step backwards?

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<v Speaker 2>I think she's probably bright enough to have studied up

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<v Speaker 2>on the things that matter and be able to at

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<v Speaker 2>least fake answers, I would hope. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>She hasn't shown her face in a month and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>No, she's not campaigning at all.

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<v Speaker 3>She didn't answer any questions from the Wall Street Journal

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<v Speaker 3>or any reporters.

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<v Speaker 2>No, she has no offense. So I can't get past

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that Trump, if Trump stayed out of this stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>or at least had just an even hand and asked

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<v Speaker 2>people who know more about the state. It's up to

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<v Speaker 2>the people of South Carolina to make the decision. There's

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<v Speaker 2>not a single chance the Republicans would lose the Senate.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a chance. It's Trump's meddling in South Carolina, in Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>and in a couple other places in North Carolina. running

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<v Speaker 2>great incumbents who are moderates and maybe didn't kiss his

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<v Speaker 2>ass thoroughly enough. That's the only reason the Republicans risk

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<v Speaker 2>losing the Senate. And it annoys the hell out of me.

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<v Speaker 3>The fact that she's not campaigning at all, won't even

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<v Speaker 3>talk to the Wall Street Journal about this article or

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<v Speaker 3>anything else is not good.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sad. She was the classic. We're going to pick

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<v Speaker 2>somebody to fill the term who has no interest in

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<v Speaker 2>running for the office. So then we can, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>approach this. And then Trump said, I think you ought

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<v Speaker 2>to keep the job. Everybody in South Carolina said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>my God, what do we do now? Right.

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