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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the X Learning postgame show with Bill Laska.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to bring my guests on from Rocky Mountain,

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Speaker 1: North Carolina. He wears number sixty five. Land and Roupe.

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Speaker 2: How were you today, I'm good good. I always appreciate

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Speaker 2: you having me on.

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Speaker 1: Well Land, And let's go to what you did in

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Speaker 1: the off season. Of course, a couple injuries plaguing you

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Speaker 1: towards the end of the year last year. How do

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Speaker 1: you feel coming into twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: I feel really good.

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Speaker 3: You know, obviously had that knee injury at the end,

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Speaker 3: but we got it all squared away before the end

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Speaker 3: of the season and I was back on the mail

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Speaker 3: throwing bullpens and just making sure that I could have

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Speaker 3: a healthy off season.

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Speaker 2: So when it isn't fully healthy, and just.

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Speaker 3: Got to work and here in spring training now and

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Speaker 3: feel really good.

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Speaker 1: Well Landing of course, a new manager and Tony Vittello

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Speaker 1: a new pitching coach, some new faces in the clubhouse.

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Speaker 1: How do you think this is working so far as

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Speaker 1: the first part of spring training's going on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm liking it a lot. The new pitching guys

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Speaker 3: are bringing a lot in and they're bringing a lot

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Speaker 3: of knowledge and we got a we got a bunch

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Speaker 3: of guys that no different things and are all on

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Speaker 3: the same page. So I'm super excited about that. And

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Speaker 3: then obviously Tony's got a high energy and uh track

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Speaker 3: record of being successful, so really excited about him as well.

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Speaker 3: And he's been great just getting to know the guys

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Speaker 3: and and doing what he does. So I'm super excited

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Speaker 3: for this year and super excited to work with all

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Speaker 3: these guys.

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Speaker 1: Well, Landon, you're starting off slow, of course, you just

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Speaker 1: had one inning so far. I'm sure you're going to

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Speaker 1: have a couple more coming down road here at the

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Speaker 1: end of the week. But what what about pitch count?

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Speaker 1: Is this something they're working on because I know you

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Speaker 1: do bullpins, you do live vps. Is it a gradual

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Speaker 1: thing in spring training that they increase you by the week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's always kind of what I've been told. It's

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Speaker 3: it's something where you want to get ready for the season,

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Speaker 3: but you don't want to blow it out early.

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Speaker 2: It's really just the.

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Speaker 3: Time to work on things and build up their arm

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Speaker 2: And I'm i would say by the time we got

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Speaker 3: Looking forward to that, and it's definitely we're going out

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Speaker 3: there for one at the beginning when you're a starter,

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Speaker 3: but you kind of get used to it and it's

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Speaker 3: it's almost kind of fun because you just get to

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Speaker 3: let it.

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Speaker 2: Fly for for an inning and you know you'll work so.

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Speaker 1: Well. That's better when you have good times when you

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Speaker 1: do it, And of course it's your routings. It's just

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Speaker 1: like give it, give me a few arm slots and

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Speaker 1: let me fire away and get a quick inning. Here

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Speaker 1: joining me on the extra postgame show. That's the voice

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Speaker 1: you're hearing me discuss this with last spring, fantastic spring.

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Speaker 1: At one time you had eight and the third innings

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Speaker 1: one hit, eleven strikeouts. Some of the same things from

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Speaker 1: last year you're probably gonna do this year. What are

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Speaker 1: some of the things that you're gravitating on with pitch.

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Speaker 3: Selection, Yeah, just really Obviously I had the cutter in

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Speaker 3: the forcing last year, but I've made some adjustments to

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Speaker 2: Playing a lot better. I didn't throw it in my

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Speaker 3: On Tuesday just because the opportunity didn't really present itself,

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Speaker 3: but the forcing feels good, the cutter feels good, and.

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Speaker 2: Just working on throwing those pitches off each other and

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Speaker 2: working in the change up still and.

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Speaker 3: My curve balls actually has been a lot better this

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Speaker 3: year than it was last year, so I'm super excited

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Speaker 3: about that. But I'm just learning to to know when

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Speaker 3: to throw a pitch and when not to throw a pitch. Really,

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Speaker 3: it's the biggest lesson for me right now is to

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Speaker 3: to mix up my arsenal and kind of play pitches

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Speaker 1: So well, Patrick Bailey plays a lot with you. The

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Speaker 1: certain times in an inning or a game where did

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Speaker 1: you use other pitches. He's definitely, you know, catching your bullpins,

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Speaker 1: the curveball and the breaking ball always seems that it's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. It's definitely dry out here. I've never

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Speaker 3: really had a problem with any of my stuff, like

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Speaker 2: With elevation. You go to Colorado and you throw a

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Speaker 3: But yeah, everything is feels normal, obviouls sly the curveball is.

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Speaker 3: I'm just getting more depth on it now, which is

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Speaker 3: what I've been working towards the last year and a half.

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Speaker 3: And Frank and Wonders and Justin have helped me a

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Speaker 2: And my upper half. So just staying tall on that

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Speaker 1: I want to go back in time last year, the

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Speaker 1: month of May five starts really solid month of May.

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Speaker 1: Pitched against the Cubs, the Twins, the A's, Washington and Detroit.

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Speaker 1: You go twenty nine innings, you only give up five

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Speaker 1: or in runs, The walks were down to strikeouts were up.

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Speaker 1: The consistency is what I'm trying to talk about. What

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Speaker 1: made that month so consistent for you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if I'm gonna be honest, I'm pretty positive it

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Speaker 2: That was a rough one for me, and I kind of.

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Speaker 3: Just told myself, like I'm just going to forget it

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Speaker 3: let alone the relievers who had to come in and

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Speaker 2: The locker room for a full seven inns and in worrying.

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Speaker 3: About all the guys that are having to come in

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Speaker 3: after because they worked their tail off. You know, they

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Speaker 3: always grinding, so it's it's nice when you can give

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Speaker 1: I'll bring that up to you. And it was one

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Speaker 1: of the ugliest starts you had in your career, and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I said, it was kind of just forgetting

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Speaker 3: and to never let that happen again. They kind of

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Speaker 1: The biggest thing that pictures always look at I pitched

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Speaker 1: and trying to be consistent about it. And they always say,

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Speaker 1: fill up the strike zone. You can do it. Landing

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Speaker 1: It's a little harder than they think. Do you believe

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Speaker 1: that coming out of the bullpen. It's a main factor

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Speaker 1: always seems like the first inning is the toughest first start.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no doubt, because I think I think whatever

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Speaker 3: I get kind of worried. Those in the past have

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Speaker 2: So, but yeah, I would think that just like the

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Speaker 3: Rather than just throwing strikes and letting the hitters get

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Speaker 1: So and I'm sure you've heard pitching coaches as well

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Speaker 1: as your bullpen catcher, hey Land, and don't leave it

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Speaker 3: Your Yeah, no doubt. I even tell myself sometimes if

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Speaker 3: I'm if I'm hitting my spots like crazy in the

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Speaker 1: Landing Roofs joined me for a few more minutes on

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Speaker 1: the Extuating postgame show, and I want to go back

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Speaker 1: to August twentieth when you got hit in the lake

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Speaker 1: a freak accident in San Diego. Ramon Lariano hits a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I really didn't even feel the ball hit me,

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Speaker 3: I got to get this dude out, So I went

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Speaker 3: Honestly feel like I tore my a cel because I

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Speaker 3: felt like a I don't even really remember what I feel.

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Speaker 3: a bad, bad bone bruise. And I think there was

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Speaker 3: kind of what I felt.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, my first thought was I got to get

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Speaker 3: Was like like I got shot in the in the

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Speaker 1: And going away in the cart, the facial expression you had,

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Speaker 3: I think I was more mad at him for telling

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was not too happy about getting the cart

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Speaker 1: And well, it was a good thing because the whole injury,

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Speaker 1: Things ended up being great for you. You the end

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Speaker 1: Uh and over two years at the big league level.

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Speaker 1: You haven't made an ERA and you've made a lot

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Speaker 3: Come on, we know that, we all think we are,

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Speaker 2: And I used to be shoot.

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Speaker 3: I used to play shortstop, first base, centerfield, all that

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Speaker 2: It enjoyed it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, taking se many ground balls back to back to back,

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Speaker 2: It just there's times speed up on.

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Speaker 1: You, so it does the game so fast and as

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Speaker 1: we finish up with you Land and expectations for twenty

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm looking forward to get it out there.

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Speaker 3: And I say my expectations are obviously, like you said,

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Speaker 3: I can make thirty plus starts, that means I'm healthy.

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Speaker 3: One and two were in the playoffs, so those are

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Speaker 2: So I'm looking forward to it, and I think we

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Speaker 1: And I wish you luck the rest of the way

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Speaker 1: in spring. Looking forward to seeing you on that line

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Speaker 1: when you play the Yankees, coming up in that first

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Speaker 1: game of the season, and like I always say, stay healthy,

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Speaker 1: my friend, because you're one good pitcher of the Giants

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Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate it, Bill, I always enjoy talking to you.

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Speaker 1: That was Landing Roof on the ex Lending postgame show.

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