1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: And we continue at one oh five in the afternoon 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: on the John Phillip Show. Mister Randy wigs in Culver City, 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: Ken writ's in at Johnny Don't like show at gmail 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: dot com. Hey Johnny, I was just listening to what 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: you said with the comment about Gorbachev's head being so 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: many solar panels on the house. My house has so 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: many solar panels it looks like the mirrored ceiling of 8 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: Hugh Hefter's bedroom. Oh my, there's a lot going on 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: up there. You think when Santa comes to deliver the 10 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 1: gifts he partakes maybe. 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: A couple of the elves too. 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two is 13 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: telephone number one eight hundred two two two of five 14 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: two two two. Well, we know that the response that 15 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: we saw from the City of La, the County of La, 16 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: the state of California to the fires that destroyed southern 17 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: California portions of southern California last year were abysmal, and 18 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: some might say they were sleeping on the job, But Randy, 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: it may actually be more than just a metaphor. 20 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 3: A whistleblower complaint has emerged at the County of Los 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 3: Angeles alleging that an employee in the Office of Emergency 22 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 3: Management during the Eaton fire was literally sleeping on the job. 23 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: I wonder if Bill Cosby was his barista. I had 24 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: a feeling that was coming for more. Here's ABC seven 25 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: Eyewitness News Now at five. 26 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 4: A whistleblower inside La County's Office of Emergency Management comes forward. 27 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 5: He says a former colleague who had a crucial role 28 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 5: in the emergency Operations Center as the Eaton Fire raised 29 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 5: in Altonina, was at times a sleep on the job. 30 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 5: Eyewitness News investigative reporter Key. 31 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: No, that's a great job for someone with NARCOLEPSI. I 32 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: wonder why they didn't hire him to be an airline pilot. 33 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 5: Eyewitness News investigative reporter Kevin Ozabek here with that story, Kevin. 34 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: Marc and Michelle. 35 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 6: The man behind this whistleblower complaint is Nick the He's 36 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 6: currently an associate director with the Office of Emergency Management, 37 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 6: and he now wants to go public with what he 38 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 6: says he experienced as he came into work as homes 39 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 6: were still burning on the morning of January eighth. 40 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 7: You're supposed to be the one that's kind of keeping 41 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 7: an eye on the whole operational picture. 42 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 6: That's how Nick Vaciero describes the role of the Emergency 43 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 6: Operation Center Director. 44 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: It's a lead by the way, this guy actually putting 45 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 3: his name out there. That's a dangerous game in retaliatory 46 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 3: La County. But good for him. 47 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they are definitely coming after him full fource. 48 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 6: That's how Nick Vacio describes the role of the Emergency 49 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 6: Operation Center Director. It's a leading position here inside the 50 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 6: county's EOC when it's activated, so you essentially oversee everyone 51 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 6: in that room, yes, sir, and you make sure things 52 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 6: are moving properly. 53 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 8: That's correct. 54 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 6: On January seventh, twenty twenty five, at seven pm, so 55 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 6: shortly after the Eden fire sparked, Vacio says, now we're OEM. 56 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 6: Employee Steve Lieberman started his twelve hour shift in the 57 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 6: EOC director role at five thirty am. Vico says, he 58 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 6: came in to replace him. 59 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 7: So as I'm walking in, Steve walks out of his 60 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,839 Speaker 7: office and as loud as he could for the entire 61 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 7: Emergency Operations Center to hear, he yells, I don't know 62 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 7: why we're even activated. Nothing's happening. 63 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 2: What what's everyone getting all excited? 64 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: About why in the world would you say that in 65 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: front of other people. 66 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 7: I don't know why we're even activated. Nothing's happening. 67 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,839 Speaker 2: County employee. 68 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: Boy, when they know they're bulletproof, man, are they bulletproof? 69 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 7: To which I obviously got very angry and screamed at 70 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 7: him to look at the TVs. 71 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: Well, the mayor didn't know it was going to be windy, 72 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: even though it was on every weather cast in southern California. 73 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: This guy didn't understand why people were getting so worked 74 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: up over the fires that you know, destroyed large portions 75 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: of southern California. 76 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: And by the way, this was the fire in La 77 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 3: County where La County screwed up the emergency alert system 78 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: and did not send evacuation alerts to a whole bunch 79 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: of people in Altadena, and then the next day sent 80 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 3: an erroneous evacuation alert to the entire county for a 81 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 3: small fire in Woodland Hills. 82 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: And we wonder why they come off as being clueless. 83 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 6: So you speak to staff who worked the overnight shift. 84 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: What did they tell you? 85 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 7: They told me that he was sleeping. 86 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: Well, that explains it. 87 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 6: Three people who were inside the EOC during all or 88 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 6: part of that overnight shift. Tell Seven on your Side 89 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 6: investigates off camera that they either saw Lieberman sleeping during 90 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 6: parts of his shift or did not see him in 91 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 6: the EOC for good portions of his shift. 92 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,239 Speaker 2: And this guy's the boss. 93 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: Keep in mind when they tell you if you don't 94 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: vote for a tax increase that your life is going 95 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: to be on the line because they're not going to 96 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: have the personnel to deal with fires and disasters and 97 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: those sorts of things. 98 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 2: They want more money for this guy. 99 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 7: So if you were to take it in terms of 100 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 7: the military, it would be like having the commanding officer 101 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 7: be awall during a major battle. You're not making the 102 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 7: calls on evacuations. That's done by law on fire, but 103 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 7: you are overseeing the unit that's pushing the button to 104 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 7: send out the alerts. 105 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: And there was a lot of problems with that button. 106 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: And keep in mind, this guy works for the County 107 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: of Los Angeles. He works for the Board of Supervisors. 108 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,119 Speaker 1: He knows what the ethos are here, and he knows 109 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: that they fully expect him to get away with behavior 110 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: like that because that's just what happens here. 111 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 6: La County tells us Steve Lieberman had no responsibility for 112 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 6: receiving or issuing evacuation alerts and warnings. Emergency alerts and 113 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 6: warnings are issued based on decisions made by unified command 114 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 6: in the field and relay directly to the Office of 115 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 6: Emergency Management Alert and Warning Unit. It is unacceptable. 116 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 3: Does this sound like a very complicated baracracy if I've 117 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 3: ever heard one? 118 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: It does, Shangy, the baraucracy is real. 119 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 6: It is unacceptable for any OEM employee in the midst 120 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 6: of an emergency response to fall asleep. 121 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: Oh, the unions aren't gonna lit here in that, but 122 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: they know the threat is hollow. They don't care. 123 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 6: However, to be absolutely clear, mister Lieberman had no impact 124 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 6: on the timing of alerts and warnings to Alta Dina 125 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 6: as pera County policy. We have forwarded all of Nick 126 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 6: Vakiro's claims for investigation. Office of Emergency. 127 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 3: By the way, this is the same department that had 128 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: to do an investigation as to why that emergency alert 129 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 3: went out when the entire county did not need to 130 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 3: be evacuated, and the guide does the press conference and says, well, 131 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 3: we did an investigation and no human was actually responsible 132 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 3: for it. So nobody's in trouble, so they can't even 133 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: give a straight story. 134 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: Yep. 135 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 6: Office of Emergency Management Director Kevin McGowan, that's. 136 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 2: The guy, Kevin McGowan. 137 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 3: He's the guy that said with a straight face, no 138 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 3: one is to blame for firing off the wrong emergency alert. 139 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: It was AI. 140 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 6: Office of Emergency Management Director Kevin McGowan declined our interview request, 141 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 6: but says, neither I nor my deputy director observed Steve 142 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 6: Lieberman sleeping during any emergency activation during. 143 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 3: Each well, we got three people that went on the 144 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 3: record to say he was. 145 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, who's more relevant the three people who were there 146 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: that day or this guy and his buddies. 147 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 6: During the overnight operational period of January seventh, we were 148 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 6: present in the emergency Operations center and observed mister Lieberman, Oh, 149 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 6: wake and performing is a responsibility when we were there, 150 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 6: why are you speaking? 151 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: Okay? 152 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: Then why are these three people all saying the same thing. 153 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: In addition to the whistleblower, the. 154 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 3: Whistleblower who is going on the record saying that this 155 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 3: guy walked up and said, why does everyone getting all 156 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 3: worked up about what's going on over here? 157 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 2: Why are we here right now? 158 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: This is a world where Holly Mitchell's in charge. You 159 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: think Holly Mitchell is going to demand excellence from county employees. 160 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: I do not. 161 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 9: We have to be mindful of that. 162 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 10: Why are you speaking about this now? 163 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 7: For me personally, it's really about wanting to protect my community. 164 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 6: Vic Caro says he believes the Office of Emergency Management 165 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 6: remains deeply understaffed. At the time of the fires, the 166 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 6: OEM had a staff of thirty seven. The office is 167 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 6: requesting to boost its budget to add forty four more 168 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 6: staff and says it's ready to respond to any emergency. 169 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 6: The office of La County super Catherine Barber confirmed to 170 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 6: us that Nick Facuero has filed an official whistleblower complaint 171 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 6: the supervisor. 172 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:11,359 Speaker 3: And that means with California protections, the county cannot retaliate 173 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 3: against him. 174 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: Oh they will. They'll find ways of doing it. They're 175 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: going to try to ruin this guy's life. 176 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 3: Well, if they do that, because of whistleblower protections, this 177 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 3: guy will be able to sue the county for millions. 178 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: How screwed up is it? 179 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: Where at the county level you have one person who's 180 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: normal and the rest of them are freaks. 181 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: The supervisors. 182 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: You could rely on Catherine Barger to give a sober 183 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: analysis of what's going on, and the rest of them 184 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: have their foot on the gas pedal of the cars. 185 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 2: It's going off the cliff. I love the bus driver. 186 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 11: We know. 187 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 6: The supervisor says, residents of Los Angeles County deserve absolute 188 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 6: confidence in the integrity and readiness of our emergency management system. 189 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 6: The allegations are serious being fully reviewed through the appropriate 190 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 6: whistleblower and investigative processes. Now, we did try to reach 191 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 6: out to Steve Liberman, Butter request for comment. 192 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So the guy that at the center of 193 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 3: all this sleepy he retired last year, so he's of 194 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 3: course living on a nice fat pension, probably in another state. 195 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 6: Now, we did try to reach out to Steve Lieberman, 196 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 6: butter requests for comment have not been returned. However, the 197 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 6: outlet LAist reports that Lieberman did tell them he was 198 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 6: not asleep during that overnight shift. FST has filed this 199 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 6: whistle bulover a complaint back. 200 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: I love by the way, how specific he was. I 201 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: wasn't asleep on that specific day at that specific time. 202 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 6: FST has filed this whistle blow. 203 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: I was just resting my eyes for hours at a time. 204 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 6: FST has filed this whistle bulover a complaint back in 205 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 6: October of last year. He says Lieberman was already retired 206 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 6: at that time. Live in the studio Kevin Ozbek, ABC 207 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 6: seven Eye Witness News. 208 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 3: So there you go, the whistle blow or complain that 209 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 3: a critical employee at the Office of Emergency Management during 210 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 3: the initial hours of the eten fire was sleeping on 211 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 3: the job. 212 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: How is it that Catherine Barger is the only member 213 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: of the board that's on the record on this subject. 214 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: Quite frankly, shouldn't that, in theory really upset the other 215 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: members of the board and at least get them to 216 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: publicly comment on it. 217 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: But they just don't care. They've moved on. 218 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: It's just wild to me. And again, we live in 219 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: a one party state, a one party county, a one 220 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: party city. So unless it until it offends Democrats, none 221 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: of this matters, and none of them seem to care either. 222 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 3: Hey we got a call from Altadena. Let's go to 223 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 3: mark an Altadena. 224 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 2: Mark. Hello. 225 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, Hey, Another person who can't have their keep their 226 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 9: story trade is Catherine Barger. She announced that rebuilding would 227 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 9: be like for like it is not. I am a 228 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 9: partial burn. It's a big property by suburban standards, almost 229 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 9: two acres. My main house did not burn out. The 230 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 9: back properties burned, pull house, big garage, and so forth. 231 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 9: But they're about six hundred feet from the street. And 232 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 9: of all the agencies that's holding up my plan and 233 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 9: went through planning, went through a building department, it's the 234 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 9: county fire department that's uh say, we're not They're not 235 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 9: going to release the plan. I have to change my house, 236 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 9: my one hundred year old house to meet their demand. 237 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 9: These guys they won't carry that. They have new laws 238 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 9: that are written for them. For example, they don't carry 239 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 9: their their fire hoses more than two hundred feet. You 240 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 9: used to think of these guys are like big barrel chests. 241 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 9: That dudes. They don't carry their fire hoses. And they 242 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 9: said it out loud, and they said, there's no chance 243 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 9: we're going to build. Let your plan that you have 244 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 9: a ten foot driveway. We want a twenty foot wide driveway. 245 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 9: We want you to take white and take a portion 246 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 9: of your house down so you can get that twenty 247 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 9: foot driveway. These guys are the La County Fire departments. 248 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 9: They're just another big another branch of big stupid government. 249 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 2: How do you feel this whole process? 250 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 11: Oh? 251 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 9: I crap. They set this this this building up with 252 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 9: all the departments in it. It's an Altadena. It's called 253 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 9: One Stop. I've been there thirty five times. My wife 254 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 9: tells me to practice not being pissed off. I tell her, 255 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 9: you know, it would be It's easier for me to 256 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 9: knock out my own front teeth. You know. I'm a 257 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 9: year plus into this thing. I got and I got 258 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 9: to start over. I got nothing and Catherine. I had 259 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 9: a meeting with Catherine Bardra face to face at this 260 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 9: creature called One Stop. She happened to be in the building, 261 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 9: so I started pitching of us, Hey, I want to 262 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 9: talk to you, And then she walked over with her 263 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 9: entourage and started opening books, and they said, they get 264 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 9: back to me. That was a month ago. No one's 265 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 9: got back to me. They all go in their vacations, 266 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 9: they don't return emails. And they give you handlers. They 267 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 9: keep reassigning to you to a handler, you know, and 268 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 9: the handler starts from the bottom. Where do you live, 269 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 9: what's your name, what do you do? What's all this stuff? 270 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 9: You start over, and you start over they treat you 271 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 9: like garbage. 272 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: Realistically, how long do you think it's going to take 273 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: before your whole, before you're fully rebuilt. 274 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 9: Well, I'm I'm going to submit something substantially smaller than 275 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 9: what my garage, for example, was almost twenty five hundred 276 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 9: square feet, big big collectibles and cars and all that. 277 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 9: If I want that garage, I have to submit something 278 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 9: no larger than a thousand square feed because in the 279 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 9: fire Department doesn't get involved in any structure less than 280 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 9: a thousand square feet. So that's what it's going to 281 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 9: look like. I'm going to have this, you know, where 282 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 9: I had these grand pool house a garage, I'm gonna 283 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 9: have these little little little bitty houses and you know 284 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 9: in uh in cabana as a replacement. I will never 285 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 9: be whole. 286 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: To answer your question, it's awful that you have to 287 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: rebuild something that's not what you had to make the 288 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: fire department, or at least to cut the fire department 289 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: out of the process because they're being such a pain 290 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: in the ass. 291 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 9: Well, and Karen Barger should have kept quiet about that. 292 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 9: She's going straight up against legislative law. She can't just 293 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 9: walk and say, oh, you know, here's this hundred year 294 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 9: old house. They're they're applying to my hundred year old 295 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 9: house current fire codes. I can't. I can't get there. 296 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 9: It's it's insane and hut this Yeah, he's got the 297 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 9: same problem. 298 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone's just dealing with the never ending nightmare. 299 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 9: It's yeah, it's it's never going to end. I don't 300 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 9: know he he hasn't. He's a little further behind than 301 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 9: I am, but he has a different access he I'm 302 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 9: kind of landlocked. He's got a side street Raymond. But 303 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 9: it's a fire department. These duds. They're just big, stupid government. 304 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 9: And when it finally came to a real fire, uh, 305 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 9: my wife has shares an office with them in Erwindale 306 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 9: because our office are out. They need a burn to 307 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 9: the ground. And I talked to the fire department has 308 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 9: an office there. So I talked these guys up a 309 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 9: little bit and he tells me, hey, man, it was 310 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 9: all really bad that night when things were out of control. 311 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 9: And I told him, dude, I'm not interested. But when 312 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 9: it was out of control, I could talk to fifty neighbors. 313 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 9: I want to know how what happened with them? What 314 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 9: were you doing when there was no fire at all, 315 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 9: what were you doing when there was a when there 316 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 9: was a small fire, And the answer is that kind 317 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 9: of chuckles, Well, not much. They were watching teletubby reruns. 318 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 9: You know who survived without a scratch is every single 319 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 9: altady in a fire station. They didn't have a dusty bumper, 320 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 9: not a scratch. They saved. 321 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: All right, thank you, thank you for the call, SIRT. 322 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I'm sorry you're going through what you're 323 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: going through, which is why if it were me, I 324 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: think I would move to a different part of the state. 325 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's the right decision. I'm saying for 326 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: my own mental health, for my own sanity, I think 327 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: I would have to do that. Eight hundred two two 328 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,239 Speaker 1: two five two two two is telephone number. What eight 329 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: hundred two two two five two two two. If you'd 330 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: like to email the show, you can do so at 331 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: Johnny don't like show at gmail dot com. 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Good luck dialing. 361 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two is 362 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: the telephone number one eight hundred two to two two 363 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: five two two two. Well, we know that the State 364 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: of California is letting a lot of bad dudes and 365 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,239 Speaker 1: perverts out of prison early, people who were sentenced by 366 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 1: a judge and jury and we're supposed to be in 367 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: prison for a good long time. But because the state 368 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: of California has a bias and a law that says 369 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: that elder inmates should be released early, that's exactly what 370 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: the parole boards are doing. Well, guess what we're now 371 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: learning that when the State of California lets a lot 372 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: of these bad dudes and perverts out, they're not even 373 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: keeping an eye on them when they're in the community. 374 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 3: And this is going all the way back to COVID 375 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 3: where parole has really not meant a damn thing because 376 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 3: even though you're supposed to be check, there's not a 377 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 3: whole lot of contact between CDCR and those parolees. For 378 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 3: more on this, we go once again to KCRA three 379 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 3: California Politics three p. Sixty Ashley Zavalaz Sunday show that 380 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 3: you can now watch on Fox eleven in LA and 381 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 3: KTVU Fox two in the Bay. 382 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 2: Hey that rhymed. 383 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 12: Frustration growing with how the state releases criminals from prison 384 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 12: and an apparent lack of supervision while they're on parole. 385 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 12: This week, state Republican leaders called on the governor to 386 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 12: replace the Parole Board. It comes after the board to 387 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 12: prove the release of violent sex offenders under the state's 388 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 12: elder parole law. 389 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 3: And there's been a lot more since David Allen Funston. 390 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 3: There's been a lot more just in the last week. 391 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, only the truly awful ones make the news. 392 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 4: Public safety must always come first, and predators who admit 393 00:20:55,800 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 4: that they're still attracted to children belong behind bar, not 394 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 4: back in our community. 395 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 12: The call comes as Governor Newsom's administration is facing a 396 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 12: potential lawsuit. The family of a twenty seven year old 397 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 12: woman killed in twenty twenty blames the California Department of 398 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 12: Corrections and Rehabilitation for not doing its job to keep. 399 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 13: Tabs on a man on parole. 400 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 12: He's now accused of killing their daughter and another woman 401 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 12: while driving under the influence. Now, a former CDCR employee 402 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 12: is blowing the whistle. He says, there's a toxic culture 403 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 12: when it comes to people who are released from our 404 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 12: state's prison system with potentially dangerous consequences. 405 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 3: So we let them out early and we're not keeping 406 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 3: tabs on them what could possibly go wrong? 407 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: And keep in mind, we pay a fortune to live here. 408 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: We're supposed to have the best services in the entire Union. 409 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 10: We honestly had no idea what they were doing or 410 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 10: how they were doing. 411 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 13: You weren't tracking people who were on parole. 412 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 10: I had GPS information and that's it. 413 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 14: And who told you to not do that? 414 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: My supervisors, Because like everything else in this state, if 415 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: you ask too many questions and you obtain too much information, 416 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: you're going to have to throw people back in prison 417 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: because that's where they belong. But if you don't know anything, 418 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: then you can't throw them back in prison. 419 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 13: Disturbing allegations from a former state Corrections parole officer. 420 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 10: As a sex offender agent, I had GPS tracking information, 421 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 10: so I could see pretty much where they were at 422 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 10: any given time, But beyond that, what they were doing 423 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 10: at those moments. 424 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 8: I have no idea. 425 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 13: Speaking to me. Under the agreement, we would conceal his identity. 426 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 13: He talked about his six years with the parole unit 427 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 13: based in San Francisco. He said the issue worsened during 428 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 13: the pandemic. When he says all work was done by phone, Yeah. 429 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 3: How does that work when you're making sure that paroles 430 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 3: are not reoffending? 431 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 2: It's the honor system. 432 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 13: All work was done by phone. 433 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 10: It was literally, this. 434 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 3: Is like in La County, we decided to put everyone 435 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 3: on ankle monitors and then, because of all the staff 436 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 3: crisis at juvenile halls, move all of the probation deputies 437 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 3: to JUVI and no one's actually watching the ankle monitors. 438 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 3: How's that working out for us? 439 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: It's not. 440 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 10: It was literally, are you are you abiding by the 441 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 10: law today? 442 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 8: Yes? 443 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 10: Fantastic. 444 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: Can you imagine amongst themselves, when all the perverts get 445 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: together and they talk about their time and the pen 446 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: and they talk about the state of California, how dumb 447 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: they think we are. 448 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 10: Whatever they told us is exactly what we would put 449 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 10: in the system. And saying that that's they're okay. 450 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 13: It's that policy that Heroco abbe says led to the 451 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 13: death of her twenty seven year old daughter, Hanakoh. 452 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 14: This she she did my stomach, You know, hen uncle 453 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 14: was a very honest person and kind and thoughtful. 454 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 13: Speaking to us from Japan through an interpreter, they talked 455 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 13: about the driver charged with killing Hanakoh and another pedestrian 456 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 13: in twenty twenty. Prosecutors said Troy McCallister was speeding while 457 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 13: under the influence of meth and alcohol when he ran 458 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 13: a red light. This video from KTVU shows the scene. 459 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 13: He was on parole with the criminal history that includes 460 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 13: nine felony convictions including drug offenses, attempted carjacking, and robbery. 461 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: These are the kind of people that were letting out 462 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: every single day and eventually it becomes deadly and that 463 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: is why Hanako Abbe is no longer alive. It sounds 464 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: like we did a real good job rehabilitating this guy. 465 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 13: He was on parole with the criminal history that includes 466 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 13: nine felony convictions including drug offenses, attempted carjacking, and robbery. 467 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 13: The Abbe family is now filing a government claim, saying 468 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 13: Daily City Police contacted CDCR two days before the crash 469 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 13: they wanted help finding McAllister to take him into custody 470 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 13: for violating his parole, but the claim says the state refused. 471 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 2: I'm getting real angry at this story. 472 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: Well, this is what Gavin Newsom wants. He does not 473 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: want quote unquote over incarceration. So if you just shut 474 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: your eyes and put your hands over your ears, then 475 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: you don't know what's going on around you and surprise, 476 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: oh look, well you can't protect them all. This one's 477 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: going to slip through the cracks. That's the attitude that 478 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: they have because they think that prison is violence. Just 479 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: like that freak running for the US Senate in Texas 480 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,239 Speaker 1: who said that in those exact words. They all believe it, 481 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: but he was the only one dumb enough to say it. 482 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: If you think that the prison system is racist and 483 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: classist and violent and all of that, then you don't 484 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 1: want to put anyone in there. 485 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 2: And that's what the state is doing. 486 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,239 Speaker 1: They're bending over backwards so they don't fill up our 487 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: prisons again. 488 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 3: Even when the state is told by local law enforcement 489 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 3: that someone violated their parole, they don't care. 490 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 13: They wanted to help finding McAllister to take him into 491 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 13: custody for violating his parole, but The claim says the 492 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 13: state refused. 493 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 15: Nothing can bring back their daughter, so they just want 494 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 15: to make sure this doesn't happen again, and that if 495 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 15: the Parole Division is supposed to be supervising parolee let's 496 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 15: make sure that's happening. 497 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 13: The claim includes this email, reportedly from San Francisco parole 498 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 13: supervisors telling agents not to assist other agencies. 499 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 2: In writing. 500 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 10: My guess is that it gives that impression that rehabilitation 501 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 10: is working, when in fact the complete opposite was happening. 502 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 10: They were running amok. 503 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 13: The whistleblower says, even though rules relaxed under COVID, arrest 504 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 13: expectations never fully recovered, saying it could continue to lead 505 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 13: to problems statewide. 506 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: Okay, this is actually Zaballa is great. She's the best 507 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: journalist in the state. This has nothing to do with COVID. 508 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: This was George Floyd. This was when they decided that 509 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: prison was racist and we couldn't put anyone in prison, 510 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: and that's why we just have to pretend like we 511 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. 512 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 2: Well, it was a few things at the same time. 513 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 3: Because it was also, oh, prison's a easy place to 514 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:09,959 Speaker 3: get COVID. 515 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: We got to let everybody out. Yeah, but look at 516 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: what happened in New York. They don't care about killing 517 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: us from COVID. What they cared about was being branded 518 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: a racist because the whole country lost its mind for 519 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: about two years, where everyone decided to go off the 520 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: woke plank, including. 521 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 2: The state of California. 522 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: And the problem is that many of the people that 523 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: run the government internalized all of that insanity, so they 524 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: never moved on. 525 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 2: The rest of us moved on. 526 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: Some of us, like me, never fell for it in 527 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: the first place, but a lot of people did. And now, 528 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: if you go out and say the crazy stuff that 529 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 1: people were saying back then, and you hope to get 530 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: elected to something, it's not going to happen. It's going 531 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: to sink that guy in Texas that everyone thinks he's 532 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: going to get elected. You can't get elected if you 533 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: think prisons are violence and we need to welcome out 534 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: at the southern border. And there are six different But 535 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: back then, that's what that crowd was saying, and that's 536 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: what this is a function of. This is a function 537 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: of George Floyd. 538 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 10: They're not being properly supervised. I believe that's purposeful in 539 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 10: nature and unequivocally. I will state that they are not safe. 540 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 10: People are not safe at all. These parrolleys are left 541 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 10: to rampage throughout the state and more issues will occur 542 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 10: that are similar in nature to, unfortunately, the incident that 543 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:33,959 Speaker 10: occurred in San Francisco. 544 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 12: We reached out to the Governor's office and to CDCR 545 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 12: for a comment. At the time we taped, we had 546 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 12: not yet heard back from the Governor's office. CDCR says 547 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 12: it cannot comment on potential pending litigation. But the department's 548 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 12: top priority is public safety. 549 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: Sure it is, boy, They just say it over and 550 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: over and over again, and then behind the scenes refuse 551 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: to help local police departments and fire these people. 552 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 3: That is just a little taste of what really is 553 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 3: going on in California's prisons. We're letting everybody out that 554 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 3: we can, and then we're not even tracking them when 555 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 3: they're out on parole. 556 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: Let's go to Brian and Sacramento. Brian, Hello, Hey, yeah. 557 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 16: Guys, how you doing today? 558 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 2: Good? 559 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 16: Hey, I just want to tell you guys about the 560 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 16: experience I had a year ago. This last November, I 561 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 16: was in Solano County working and I got robbed and 562 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 16: shot twice and they caught the perpetrator two hours later 563 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 16: because I got the license member of her car, thirty 564 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 16: two year old woman, and her sentence was two years 565 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 16: of court diversion, basically probation. 566 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 2: That seems a bit light, I. 567 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 16: Think in the assistant DA, when she was telling me 568 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 16: about it and stuff, she was as joe bill as 569 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 16: can be about it. Oh, isn't this the greatest thing 570 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 16: in the world, and stuff. It was insane. I can't 571 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 16: believe it. And also too, it was a one to 572 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 16: seventy seven caliber pellet gun which did take a piece 573 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 16: out of my thumb and didn't bed into my shoulder. 574 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 16: And because it was not a powder actuated gun, it's 575 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 16: not a firearm. 576 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: And a lot of these das, I think they understand 577 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: that the political pull in the state, the gravitational pull, 578 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: is to make sure that people don't go to jail, 579 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: make sure certainly they don't go for a long time, 580 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: and so they just have a defeatist sort of attitude, 581 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: and they're there to just process paperwork. 582 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 16: Pretty much. Yeah, that's about it. And if she goes 583 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 16: the two years without getting in any trouble, all charges 584 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 16: are dropped and forgotten and never to be brought up again. 585 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 16: And also I understood from the PD that I reported 586 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 16: it to you that when she did this, she was 587 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 16: on parole. 588 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: Well, and if they're not keeping track of what she's 589 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: doing now, then what's the point of even putting her 590 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: on parole again or probation or whatever it is that 591 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: she's on. 592 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 16: Well, that's what I'm saying. It's just a joke. It's 593 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 16: a terrible joke, you guys. 594 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: Me. 595 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 16: I mean, it's the criminals or the criminals or the 596 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 16: victims nowadays. I actually, honestly, I was thinking that they 597 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 16: were going to press charges against me for something while 598 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 16: I was waiting. 599 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Oh yeah, Well that's what 600 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 2: they do here. 601 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: They make right, left, right, up, down, down, up right wrong, 602 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: wrong right. 603 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 2: That's the way it works here now exactly. 604 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 16: Well, Hey, you guys, I really appreciate your show and 605 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 16: I love listening to you guys. You guys have a 606 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 16: great day now, Okay, all right, thank. 607 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 2: You for the call, sir. 608 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: All right, So many cities in California claim that they're 609 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: doing everything that they can to bust up the homeless encampments. 610 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: We know that in San Jose, Mett Mayheon has made 611 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: that a top priority. However, when one part of the 612 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: state zigs, you can always count on one city in 613 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: California to zag. 614 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 3: And that city is Oakland, California. 615 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 2: It's a lot of crime now because. 616 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 3: A homeless encampment that was displaced by Caltran's construction has 617 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 3: been allowed to stay thanks to the City of Oakland. 618 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: Because of course, allowing the encampments to stay up is 619 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: the compassionate thing to do. 620 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 2: For more on this, we got a krayn for the. 621 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 17: Unhoused residents who are forced to move from an encampment 622 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 17: in Oakland three times in a week have now been 623 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 17: allowed to stay at sixth and Webster. This is while 624 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 17: Crawdforce with Jugal is reporting more permanent housing solutions are 625 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 17: in the works. 626 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 8: Hard to live a regular life? 627 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: WHOA that is definitely meth voice that's meth and to. 628 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 8: It's hard to live a regular life. 629 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 2: And I think a blood relation to Gary Busey. 630 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 18: It's hard to live a regular life. You know, vade 631 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 18: keep you so clean, and. 632 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 3: There are certain people. Just hearing them speak makes your 633 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 3: throat hurt. 634 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 2: I think I need some warm water with lemon. 635 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 18: It's hard to live a regular life. You know, vade 636 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 18: keep you so clean and no porta potty. You know, 637 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 18: it's kind of hard to, you know, live a day 638 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 18: to day life. 639 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 11: A life complicated by tension and uncertainty. 640 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, no, frustrating. 641 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 11: Marcus is one of more than a dozen unhoused residents 642 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 11: living in an encampment at sixth in Webster Streets in Oakland. 643 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 11: Last week, they were forced to pack up and move 644 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 11: their things three times to make way for construction of 645 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 11: Coltran's Oakland Alameda Access project, and have anticipated being swept 646 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 11: a fourth time this week. 647 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 8: Because it's too much like. 648 00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 2: You could go somewhere else, you don't live there. This 649 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 2: guy should be in an institution somewhere. 650 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: You can give him affordable housing, or you can give 651 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: him a cot in a shelter. It's not going to 652 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: fix his problems. 653 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 8: Gets sound anywhere they come out. 654 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 19: They take our names, and then we don't see him 655 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 19: again until the next week. 656 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 11: The residents are no longer on private or Caltrans property 657 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 11: for the past week. 658 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 3: No, they weren't allowed to be on the private property. 659 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 3: They're now not allowed to be on the Caltrans property 660 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 3: because Caltrans is doing construction, so they'll be on city property. 661 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 2: Because of course, Barbara Lee speaks for me. 662 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 11: Pretty for the past week, they have been back on 663 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 11: city sidewalks. The city says it has conducted outreach and 664 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 11: will assist the residents with shelter and resources, but has 665 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 11: not provided a deadline for the residents to clear the encampment. 666 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 3: See that's a little different from how things are done 667 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 3: in San Jose, which isn't perfect. But when Matt may 668 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 3: had wanted to clear out Columbus Park, it was you 669 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 3: got to out by this date, and you can either 670 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 3: take the shelter, or you can go somewhere else, or 671 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 3: if you want to stay here, you're going to jail. 672 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the difference. 673 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: San Jose doesn't have a nine hundred year old communist 674 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: run in the city right now. 675 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 11: Caltrans says the encampment is not obstructing its project and 676 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 11: does not require any immediate removals, but that could change 677 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 11: as the project progresses. 678 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 19: Anxious and stressful, everyone's in. 679 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 3: Everyone interviewed in this story has meth voice, but you 680 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 3: know they're there because of the high cost of housing. 681 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 2: Randy I disarray. 682 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 11: In the past week, the faith community hosted a vigil 683 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 11: in support of the unhoused residence. 684 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: That makes me want to pull their tax exempt status. 685 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 11: And council Member Charlene Wong stepped in no relation and 686 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 11: stepped in taking part in in person and virtual meetings 687 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 11: looking for a solution, which included state leaders. 688 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 19: Probably, they either give us a safe parking somewhere that 689 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 19: we can be, that's safe, that we're not gonna get 690 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 19: kicked off of. 691 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 11: Caltrans has offered a sploy. 692 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 3: We are bending over backwards to make sure a homeless 693 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 3: encampment stays intact. 694 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: It's unreal that these are the people they're trying to 695 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: please instead of the people who live there and pay 696 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: taxes there and own homes there and run small businesses there. 697 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,280 Speaker 1: Those people don't matter. 698 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 19: Someply, they either give us a safe parking place somewhere 699 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 19: that we can be that's safe, that we're not going 700 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 19: to get kicked off of. 701 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,720 Speaker 11: Caltrans has offered a similar suggestion to the city after 702 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 11: acknowledging there are currently no available shelter options, find a 703 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 11: central location for the residents to stay during construction and 704 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 11: avoid the need for them to move any more after that, 705 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 11: especially since the construction project will continue through twenty twenty nine. 706 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 7: It's hard to deal with this it is very stressful 707 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,399 Speaker 7: and as puts people on edge. 708 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 2: In Oakland, you can go somewhere else. 709 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: Here's the thing Elon's working on, that neuralink. 710 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 2: Have you read up on that? I have not. 711 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: Okay, I think that's going to be the only thing 712 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,919 Speaker 1: that's going to save these people, where you can use 713 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: AI technology to essentially just delete everything on their hard 714 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: drive and then put on the hard drive what you 715 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: want them to know, and you can fix them that way, 716 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,280 Speaker 1: because right now we have no way to fix these people. 717 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 1: Their brains are scrambled from drugs or severe mental illness. 718 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 1: Once we can reprogram them, they can live among us. 719 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: But until then, you can't allow this to happen. And 720 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 1: because we have no fix for the underlying problem, what 721 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 1: cities and states have to do is just keep them moving, 722 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 1: don't let them stay too long, keep them moving, and 723 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: wait until you find some location that's dumb enough to 724 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: keep them. And apparently that place is Oakland, California.