1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Speaking up in all casts. For those that done the redcast, 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: It's the John Phillip Show. 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: It is our pleasure to welcome our next guest to 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 2: the program. She is a thirteen time Emmy Award winning 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: investigative correspondent for CBS News California, specializing in state capital 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: accountability and consumer investigations. You could watch her in Los 7 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 2: Angeles on k CAL TV and in San Francisco on 8 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: KPI X. You can follow her on X at Julie 9 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: Watts TV. Julie Watts Welcome. 10 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 3: Hello, gentlemen. I am I'm guessing whoever gave you that 11 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 3: intro got it from AI because it was not actually 12 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 3: entirely correct. If I'm fact checking the governor, I've got 13 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 3: a fact check you guys as well. 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: Sorry, go right ahead, Thanks for having me, Thank you 15 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: for being here. Your ears must been ringing yesterday because 16 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: all over cable news you were referenced right and left, 17 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: sometimes by name, sometimes not by name. Because yesterday Katie 18 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: Porter announced that she is getting out of politics for good. 19 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 2: That you won't have Katie Border to kick around anymore. 20 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 2: And anytime they bring on the analysts to explain why 21 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: they go well the moment she lost her temper with 22 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: that reporter in Califordia. I said to myself, that's it 23 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: for her. 24 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 3: You know, I've said this, I think publicly a couple 25 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 3: of times, certainly on panels, because as you might imagine, 26 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: this comes up a lot. Folks ask me to talk 27 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 3: about this. I will say that interview, certainly it inspired 28 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: others to get in the race. It was a turning 29 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 3: point in the race. But I do not think that 30 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 3: you can credit that interview for the distruction of her campaign. 31 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 3: I think that that was probably some very powerful folks 32 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 3: inside the Democratic Party who didn't want her to be 33 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: governor because they elevated that reporting. And think about this. 34 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 3: If I had done that interview, let's just say, with 35 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom, and it had gone bad, I would have 36 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 3: been vilified, right, But nobody vilified me. Well, a few 37 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 3: people did. I did get some hate mail, but for 38 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 3: the most part, publicly, folks didn't vilify me, which was 39 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: a very clear indication that the Democratic Party was not 40 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:17,119 Speaker 3: rallying behind her. 41 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: No, and I'll tell you I've seen some of her defenders. 42 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 2: I've seen some of the people who ran her campaign 43 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: explaining why she I think ended up with four or 44 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: five percent when all the votes were counted, and the 45 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: answer that they gave is sexism. That the temperament issue 46 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: became the dominant issue in the campaign for them, and 47 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: they believed that she was targeted because she was a 48 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: female candidate. And I've got to tell you, the candidate 49 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: that she reminded me of the most was actually a 50 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 2: guy here in California. And I don't know if you 51 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: remember him, but Kevin Shelley, whose dad was the mayor 52 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 2: of San Francisco. Jack Shelley became California's Secretary of State, 53 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: and he was the assemblyman from San Francis. He was 54 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: on the Board of Supervisors in San Francisco, and he 55 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: was one of these guys who had the right name, 56 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: came from the right political machine, had all the right contacts, 57 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 2: and the sky was the limit. And when he became 58 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: Secretary of State, he had a really nasty temper and 59 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 2: he had high turnover on his staff, and I think 60 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: at one point he threw a telephone at someone, not 61 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: the cell phones, the heavy ones that we used to 62 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: have back in the old days. And it just got 63 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: to a point to where there were enough stories out 64 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: there about this guy exploding on people where that just 65 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: became how voters knew him, and he actually had to 66 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: resign as Secretary of State because the snowball just got 67 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: so big he couldn't defend his behavior anymore. He couldn't 68 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: defend his actions, and his own staff was turning on him, 69 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: and then that was it. I mean, a guy who 70 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: could have been governor, a guy who could have gone 71 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: to the highest levels of California politics, lost it all 72 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: because he couldn't keep from using his temper. 73 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I will say this, and you guys 74 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 3: pointed out on your show that Tom Steyer, you did 75 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 3: the Tom syre Man's plaining episode, but Tom sire also 76 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 3: had a few moments that I think if if if 77 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 3: Katie Porter had said it, it would have been a 78 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 3: bigger deal, But folks sort of dismissed it because it 79 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: was Tom Steyer. So I think there might be a 80 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: little bit of truth to the you know, she's a 81 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: woman and women aren't supposed to behave that way. I 82 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: also think it has a lot to do with the 83 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 3: question that she didn't answer, which was what do you 84 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: say to the Trump voters who will be disenfranchised by 85 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 3: the prop fifty you know, ballot measure, and we were 86 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 3: dealing were you know, that got picked up nationally by 87 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 3: a lot of folks who were like, you can't you 88 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 3: should say something to these folks will be disfranchised. Right, So, 89 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of different elements, not just 90 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 3: that personality. But I will say, you know the video 91 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: that came out the next day, that was leaked to Politico. 92 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 3: My understanding, based on some public reporting, is that it 93 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 3: came from a former staffer of hers. So you know, 94 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 3: all that to say, there's a lot of things that 95 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 3: work together that ended with us up where we are. 96 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 2: Well, now you're working on a new one that is excellent. 97 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 2: We spent a lot of time talking about it on 98 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: this program and it added something new to my vocabulary 99 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 2: that I never thought would come out of my mouth, 100 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 2: and that is diaper gate. 101 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: Yes, it's a fun one, right. You know. One of 102 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 3: the great things about this investigation is that nobody died. 103 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 3: There's nothing sad about it. And then the money that 104 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 3: we're talking about really is just you know, pennies compared 105 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 3: to our entire budget. Right. So, but what this with 106 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 3: this investigation reveals is how things actually operate behind the 107 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 3: scenes at the state Capitol, which is my entire mission. 108 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 3: My position at CBS California Investigates is to pull back 109 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,679 Speaker 3: the curtain and show. I always like to say, Mabel 110 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 3: and Modesto, what's actually happening, happening inside those closed doors, 111 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 3: and this reveals it. And you know, really interestingly, when 112 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 3: I started out on this investigation, it wasn't investigation. It 113 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 3: was a fact check. Because Steve Hilton was saying that 114 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 3: these diapers were going to be fifty cents a piece, 115 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 3: but he was taking the total budget and dividing it 116 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 3: by the first year's diaper count, and so I simply 117 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 3: did a fact check to say, no, Steve, that's not 118 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 3: entirely accurate. This is how much is actually going to 119 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 3: cost us. And oh, by the way, all the critics 120 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 3: who are saying baby to baby and you know, Newsom's 121 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 3: friends are going to get rich off this. You know, 122 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 3: they were saying they were making you know, six figure salaries, 123 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: they weren't. So I was just simply doing a simple 124 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 3: fact check. And I reached out to the Governor's office 125 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 3: and said, hey, can you give me a copy of 126 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 3: the contract so we can just put it all out 127 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 3: on the table. And move on. And there weren't really 128 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 3: any red flags with what I had found initially, except 129 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: for the fact they wouldn't give me that contract. Had 130 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 3: they given that to me sixty six days ago, none 131 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 3: of this would be public. I would have just moved on. 132 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 3: But when they didn't, I started searching, and that's how 133 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 3: we ended up where we are today. 134 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: Would they say you're not entitled to it or were 135 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: they just acting like, oh, well, the person who normally 136 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 2: does it's on vacation and this is going to take 137 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: a long time. 138 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: And now. 139 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: Here's what I would say, you need to go read 140 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 3: or watch the I think I call the diaper Gate 141 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 3: part two sixty six days incounting. So, the way that 142 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 3: the Public Records Act works in California is legally they 143 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: have ten days to respond to say yes, these are 144 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 3: public records and disclosable or no they're not, and then 145 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: they have to tell you when they'll will give you 146 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 3: those records. Right. What happens is they then almost always 147 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 3: as certainly state agencies, will say we need another fourteen 148 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 3: days because this is an unusual circumstance that is also 149 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 3: allowed under state law. They come back at the end 150 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 3: of the fourteen days, and they say, we think we 151 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: can give them to you by this date, but we're 152 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: working on it. And so in this case, they gave 153 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 3: me a date in the future and then they said 154 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 3: it that date again. And this is the way it 155 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 3: always works. They don't want to give you something, they'll 156 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 3: just keep extending it. And legally they don't have to 157 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 3: provide the documents by a certain time, they just have 158 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 3: to tell you when they'll give them to you. So 159 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 3: in this case, after sixty say stays, I'm like, I'm done, 160 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 3: Like this is we're going to expose the fact that 161 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: they're still holding on to these records. And then I 162 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 3: happened upon the fact that this was a it actually 163 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 3: was listed as a no bid contract. And as soon 164 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 3: as I reported that within you know, later on that day, 165 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: I got the records and it's records. Some of these 166 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 3: records actually were dated that day. In other words, they 167 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 3: had been forwarded emails had been forwarded on that day 168 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 3: to fulfill the record request. Now, I will say, if 169 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: you read our reporting, the state said they needed the 170 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 3: time for their lawyers to go through these things, and 171 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 3: you know, it was this you know, extensive process, and 172 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 3: I don't know if you've seen my most recent post. 173 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 3: We didn't, I didn't put it on TV, but we 174 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: just did a sort of follow up. So we did 175 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 3: the story. Six hours later, I get an email at 176 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 3: you know, after five o'clock on a Friday, this last Friday, saying, 177 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 3: here here are the records you requested. And then thirty 178 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 3: minutes after that, I get an email from the Governor's 179 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: office saying, you know, you're reporting demonstrably false, and they 180 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 3: start listing all of these points that are that are wrong, 181 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 3: allegedly wrong with our reporting. And so I spent all 182 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 3: weekend digging through documents and responding point by point to 183 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 3: each of their concerns, most of which we had reported 184 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 3: anyway in our initial story, and linking the documents basically 185 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 3: as bread crumbs for anybody who would like to do 186 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 3: a deep dive and investigate, because if there's a lot 187 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: of citizens slufs out there, and so what I've done 188 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 3: with this investigation is really give you all the documents 189 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 3: in the databases where you can search for more. Neil says, 190 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 3: I haven't heard anything since we posted that story and 191 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 3: sent the response back. 192 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 4: Well, and one of the things that you uncovered in 193 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 4: all of this is how commonplace it is to have 194 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 4: these no bid contracts when we're under the assumption that 195 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 4: it's a competitive bidding process for all kinds of different 196 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 4: contracts that they have found ways around. 197 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is, you know, to me, the most 198 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 3: important point of the story. So in California, you're supposed 199 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 3: to have competitive bids, and OR is an outline process 200 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 3: of what that means. And there's a scoring sheet and 201 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 3: you can see the scores and they are required to 202 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: give it to the lowest bidder or I mean, there's 203 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 3: a handful of things, but there are requirements in there. 204 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: So there are some exemptions for somebody like only one 205 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 3: company makes a product, or it's an emergency, or it's 206 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 3: a state to state transaction or state agency to state 207 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 3: agency transaction, but none of those applied here. And so 208 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 3: then I started looking in the Budget Act and I 209 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 3: realized that there was an exemption for this policy. And 210 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 3: there are a billion dollars worth of these exemptions in 211 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 3: just this twenty twenty six budget that was just passed. 212 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 3: And what it does is it says this is exempt 213 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 3: from the Department of General Service as a DGS oversight. 214 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 3: So not only are they exempt from competitive bidding. But DGS, 215 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 3: if it's a competitive contract, they have to upload it 216 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 3: to a public database, so we can search for anybody 217 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 3: who got the exemption. It's not in that database. Nobody 218 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 3: would know. Nobody will know that any of these contracts 219 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 3: are no bid tracts unless you were to search for 220 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 3: the program in the state budget then try to go 221 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 3: figure out who got that contract. And even then that, 222 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 3: I mean, it could take you months before they'll tell 223 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 3: you who got the contract. And when we ever see 224 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 3: those contracts, you know that's not clear either. So this 225 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 3: is a really big exemption. And we're talking about funding 226 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 3: for the governor's Prop one that was his big campaign. 227 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 3: We're talking about suicide prevention, prison re entry programs, opioid 228 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 3: crisis funds. These are all things that have been hot 229 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 3: button issues that really don't have to go through competitive 230 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 3: bidding and don't have to be disclosed. And so for me, 231 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 3: the point of the story was not diapers. It was 232 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 3: what this tiny little diaper contract revealed. And I really 233 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 3: hope that the folks in Sacramento inside that buildings start 234 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 3: looking at this and saying, listen, if we're going to 235 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 3: do this, maybe we should have a rule that you 236 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 3: have to automatically upload those no bid contracts. Right. Because 237 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 3: these exemptions are becoming more commonplace. 238 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: It seems as though the attitude Sacramento is going in 239 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: the opposite direction. 240 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: Though. Go back to the hospice. 241 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 2: Care fraud in Los Angeles that was exposed in part 242 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: from your organization, CBS News that went national and went 243 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 2: all over the place. The cable networks were all talking 244 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: about it. The reaction from the Governor's office was not 245 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 2: anger at the people who were stealing the money. The 246 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: reaction was anger at the people in the media who 247 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 2: exposed the fraud. It seemed like that's who they were 248 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: mad at. They weren't mad at the money being stolen. 249 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: They were mad at being embarrassed by having that being reported. 250 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 3: Well, I think there's a distinction between the folks in 251 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 3: the administration and the folks in the legislature. And we 252 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 3: are saying, you know, keep in mind, we've got I 253 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 3: think it's a third of the legislature. It was new 254 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 3: or this is their sophomore year, right, so first term 255 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 3: you are I am noticing, anyway, folks who are more 256 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: concerned about accountability than when I first started sort of 257 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 3: covering this world. But you're right, you know, I don't 258 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: think the aministration likes to look bad. I have a 259 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 3: couple of investigations that I'm working on right now that 260 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 3: also indicate that that is a thing, but I'm going 261 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 3: to kind of stay tight lift on where that's going. 262 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 3: I will also say we have another part for hopefully 263 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 3: the final Dipergate piece is going to be coming out. 264 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 3: I'm hoping to publish today and we'll get it on 265 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 3: the air here soon. But it will reveal what was 266 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 3: actually in the contracts and what was actually in the 267 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 3: competitive bid records, and that I find really as a mother, 268 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 3: as a parent, very interesting. I'm going to leave you 269 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 3: with that tease and you'll know more when we release 270 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 3: it later on hopefully today. 271 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 4: So I'm going to be hitting that refresh button on 272 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 4: YouTube all day long, is what you're saying. 273 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 3: Well, this one might be on the website first before 274 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 3: it's on YouTube. 275 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 2: But yes, what was the relationship between the first partner, 276 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: Jennifer siebelnws him in this group? 277 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 3: So you know, listen, I think to be fair, we 278 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 3: need to go back and say Baby to Baby is absolutely, 279 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 3: by all accounts, a reputable nonprofit in terms of charity 280 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 3: Navigator in terms of how much they pay themselves, they 281 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 3: get a ton of money. I mean, this contract is 282 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 3: a drop in the bucket compared to I think it 283 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 3: was don't quote me on this, I think it was 284 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 3: like seventy million a year that they're bringing in from 285 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 3: donations from I mean celebrity donations, and they do a 286 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 3: lot of good. So I want that to be very clear. 287 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 3: This is never an investigation into Baby to Baby, the 288 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 3: relation and the Newsoms. There's been a lot of people 289 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 3: talk saying, oh, this is corruption and there the Newsoms 290 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 3: are profiting off of this. Baby to Baby is not 291 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,479 Speaker 3: even well for the most part, profiting off of this. 292 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 3: This was a sort of cost you. We're paying for 293 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 3: the cost for you to do this program. Jennifer Seopel 294 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 3: knew some one of the CEOs sits on the board 295 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 3: of the First Partner's Project, which is a nonprofit and listen, 296 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 3: this is a very prominent, high profile nonprofit that focuses 297 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 3: on women and children, and so it is not surprising 298 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 3: to me that this woman, like, I don't know Chicken 299 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 3: and Egg if they were friends before. I know that 300 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 3: they've had donations going back to Newsom campaigns for years, 301 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: but nothing that raises any red flags. So it's not 302 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 3: clear to me whether she's on the board because of 303 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 3: a relationship with Jennifer siel Newsom or if that relationship 304 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 3: became because she was on the board. So I do 305 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 3: want to sort of my investigation was never into that, 306 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 3: and I want to make that clear. My investigation is 307 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 3: to what this diapergate contract reveals that somebody got a 308 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 3: contract without a competitive bid, It was not transparent, and 309 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 3: I think that you'll when we release part four, you're 310 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 3: going to understand that there are really concerns with how 311 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 3: Baby to Baby was selected. That's not to say that 312 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 3: they aren't a good nonprofit or can't do this well. 313 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: Last question before you go. 314 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: We've been following another story involving the California Department of 315 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: Motor Vehicles and allegations that there was cheating going on 316 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: when people were taking their tests. And there are members 317 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: of the legislature who you mentioned are more interested in 318 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: finding corruption and finding making sure everything is kosher than 319 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 2: the executive branch. And you have the committee chairman who 320 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: looks after the DMV and is supposed to hold them accountable, 321 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: who is very interested in getting to the bottom of this, 322 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 2: and the DMV seems to be stonewalling him, and he's 323 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: not happy with how responsive the DMV is to his requests, 324 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 2: and other members of his committee apparently feel the same way. 325 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 2: It seems as if, in many cases, in a world 326 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: where term limits dominate, the bureaucracy looks at it like, 327 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: we're going to be here forever, and you're going to 328 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: turn out. If we don't like the questions you're asking, 329 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 2: we'll just wait you out. Do you get the impression 330 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: that they do the same thing with you at times 331 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: where they know that you have deadlines, they know that 332 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: you have newscasts that you have to appear on, and 333 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: bosses that want to see productivity, and if they just 334 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: make it as big of a pill as possible, maybe 335 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: they hope that you move on to something else and 336 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 2: you just give up on whatever it is that you're digging. 337 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 3: I think they do that with everyone, with all journalists. 338 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 3: The beauty of the role that we created, the CBS 339 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 3: created for me is that I don't I don't have 340 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: to give up. I mean, I have more investigations than 341 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 3: I can handle right now, but I'm going to be 342 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 3: there and I can't tell you how often somebody's communications 343 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 3: person says, yeah, we're going to decline that interview, and 344 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 3: then I say, okay, well, I know they're going to 345 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 3: be in a hearing, and so I'm just going to 346 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 3: hang out outside the hearing. They look much better if 347 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 3: they're sitting down in a well lit interview situation versus 348 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 3: me and chasing them down the hall. And I will say, 349 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 3: you know, some people call this ambush reporting. We have 350 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 3: a rule, and most investigative reporters have a rule. You 351 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 3: do not ambush people. If you're going to do an 352 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 3: unscheduled interview. It's only after several requests, documented requests for 353 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 3: a sit down interview. But if you're not going to 354 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 3: answer the questions, we're going to get the answers. And frankly, 355 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 3: sometimes they look much worse when they don't want to talk. 356 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 3: So yes, I do think that they try to make us, 357 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 3: you know, they they think they will go away. And 358 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 3: for the type of accountability reporting that I have been 359 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 3: tasked with, it frankly gives me another story to do 360 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 3: if they don't want to talk, or if they don't 361 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 3: want to give me the documents, because to me, that says, okay, 362 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 3: there's some there there, because if there wasn't, you would 363 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 3: have given him to me sixty six days ago. 364 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 2: Julie Watts, CBS News California excellent, excellent, excellent reporter. You 365 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 2: can follow her on x at Julie Watts TV. The 366 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 2: final installment of Diapergate coming up. We'll make sure to 367 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: push it on social media when it's out. 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She is the senior national political correspondent for 406 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 2: Real Clear Politics and author of the book Full's Gold 407 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 2: The Radicals, con Artists and Traders Who Killed the California 408 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: Dream and Now Threaten Us, All available online at Amazon 409 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: dot com. You can follow her on x at Susan 410 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 2: Crabtree Susan Crabtree Welcome, great to. 411 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 5: Be with you. It's John and Randy. 412 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for stopping by today. Absolutely 413 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: all right, So, Gavin Newsom has finally publicly acknowledged that 414 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 2: he is considering running for president, although all of us 415 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 2: who've been following him have known that for quite some time. 416 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 2: And it seems like Gavin is starting to worry about 417 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 2: certain things. He's acknowledging that there are certain things that 418 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: are going on right now in the world that could 419 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 2: portray him in a negative light as a candidate for 420 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 2: president of these United States. One of the things that 421 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 2: he is clearly worried about are visual images of empty 422 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 2: downtown city centers in California, Sacramento specifically, which is the 423 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 2: state capitol. It is a city that is associated with 424 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom and a lot of the state workers work 425 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 2: from home, which means, if you're in downtown Sacramento at 426 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 2: five o'clock on a weekday, there are tumbleweeds rolling down 427 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 2: K Street because nobody's there. The sandwich shops are going under, 428 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 2: the coffee places are going under, the longtime restaurants are 429 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 2: empty and barely hanging on. And he knows that is 430 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 2: an awful look for him, and he's so concerned about 431 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 2: it that he's willing to go to war with the 432 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 2: SCIU over that, which is something that he's been hesitant 433 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 2: to do so far in his term as governor. He 434 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 2: and the unions have largely been on the same page. 435 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: But he is so worried about that he's willing to 436 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 2: go at it with longtime allies. He's doing the same 437 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: thing over the wealth confiscation tax. What do you make 438 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 2: of Gavin Newsom's recent activity in going at it with 439 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 2: longtime allies because of this problem of California's condition being 440 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 2: hung around his neck. 441 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 5: Well, he knows that in his budget that he's paying 442 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 5: the rent on all of these buildings, their government buildings. 443 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 5: And during COVID they had to condemn basically the Nancy 444 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 5: Pelosi Federal Building in downtown San Francisco because they actually 445 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 5: had to tell people not to show up to work 446 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 5: because it was so danger down there. But he knows 447 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 5: that a big chunk of his budget is going to 448 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 5: these empty rooms and it's it's hurting the economy downtown 449 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 5: and those business owners are upset, and you know, the basically, 450 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 5: you know, the remote work is not great for everybody. 451 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 5: You know, it is not great for productivity in a 452 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 5: lot of ways. You have a big debate going on 453 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 5: about that. But the SEIU have backed him. They backed 454 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 5: his prop fifty, So I'm sure they're saying what gives 455 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 5: because their responsibility is to the workers. Actually had a 456 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 5: great story about that that they're actually not they're not 457 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 5: looking out for all of the workers. They're coercing people 458 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 5: into union membership, and we can talk about that as well. 459 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 5: But yeah, it's it's a pretty interesting move on his part. 460 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 5: But you know, they are honestly bleeding this budget dry, 461 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 5: and with so many different services I've mentioned, I've reported 462 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 5: on the illegal immigrant services, the one billion dollars the 463 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 5: taxpayers are have provided during Newsom's time in office for 464 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 5: illegal immigrant services, and so he needs to come up 465 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 5: with the money somewhere, and he doesn't like the fact 466 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 5: that these buildings are not being They're empty and it's embarrassing. 467 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 2: Are you expecting to see more friendly fire from Gavin 468 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 2: Newsom in an every man for himself sort of way? 469 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 2: And I say that because let's look at the big 470 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 2: story in LA today, which is that the number of 471 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: people living on the streets is going up, and it's 472 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 2: going up dramatically. And Karen Bass was asked about that 473 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 2: because she's in a tough re election fight as mayor 474 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: of Los Angeles, and she said, well, don't blame me. 475 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,479 Speaker 2: Previous mayors didn't do enough to fight homelessness, and the 476 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: federal government is cutting the funds that are coming to LA. 477 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, so is the state. Well, 478 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 2: if you're complaining about the state cutting your funds, you're 479 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 2: complaining about Gavin Newsom. 480 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: And Gavin Newsom isn't going to like that. 481 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 2: I wonder if we're going to start to see friendly 482 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 2: fire between those two as they point fingers at each 483 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: other and blame the other for the homeless numbers going 484 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: up in LA. 485 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 5: Absolutely, And I think to your yeah, your other point, 486 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 5: I think you're going to see a lot of this 487 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 5: going on because Gavin Newsom knows if he's running for president, 488 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 5: he has to protect those Silicon Valley billionaires that are 489 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 5: going to provide the funding for his campaigns. And you 490 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 5: know he's doing that with a billionaires tax, even though 491 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 5: he's promoting the billionaire's packs, a national billionaires tax so 492 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 5: that California doesn't have to bear the full burden of 493 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 5: having its tech titans fleeing and having you know, changing 494 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 5: the economy along with it. But it comes to this, Yeah, 495 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 5: I think that Karen Bass, You've seen this before with 496 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 5: Gavin Newsom. He likes to deflect on homelessness when it comes. 497 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 5: He said he's going to fix homelessness since you know, 498 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 5: since he was San Francisco mayor, which is ridiculous he has. 499 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 5: It's only gone up and spiraled under his watch. And 500 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 5: you know, Karen Bass, and he's pushed it down stream saying, well, 501 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 5: I've told these counties to build more housing for the homelessness. 502 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 5: But you know, as you know John and Randy, it's 503 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 5: not a housing first issue. You know, they liked that. 504 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 5: He's he's tried that for so many decades now, bought 505 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 5: into this whole liberal mentality that's if you just provide 506 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 5: the housing for the homeless it would fix itself. But 507 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 5: look in LA housing for homelessness is up two and 508 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 5: twelve percent, and yet we still have an increase in homelessness. Yeah, 509 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 5: so I do think you're going to see it in 510 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 5: a circular firing squad. Coming up on this issue. 511 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 2: Let's move on to the alleged federal investigation into the 512 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: business practices of the Newsoms, because Gavin Newsom, who is 513 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: the source of the story, by the way, claims that 514 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 2: the Trump administration is trying to find ways to get 515 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 2: him because he is a political enemy, and that's what 516 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 2: the Trump administration does to their political enemies. Recently, Jennifer 517 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 2: Siebel Newsom went on ms Now with Stephanie Rule and 518 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: was asked about that, and Stephanie Rule correctly brought up 519 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 2: the fact that this investigation did not start under the 520 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 2: Trump administration. It started in the Bide administration, and she said, 521 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 2: doesn't that blow your argument out of the water, And 522 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 2: Siebel Newsom's reaction was, jamanahamanahamanahamanahamana, I don't know anything about that. 523 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: Moving on to Donald Trump as. 524 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 2: A bad guy, and I just don't see how Gavin 525 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 2: and company continue to use that argument and have anyone 526 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 2: believe them when the investigation was clearly started under the 527 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: Bide administration, and not just that, but from a California 528 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 2: whistle blow or from a California office. This did not 529 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 2: start in Washington, d C. This started right here in 530 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 2: Galvin State. 531 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 5: That's right. Well, I think that Gavin Newsom is getting 532 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 5: pretty nervous and that's the reason why he went forward 533 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 5: with that story. He wasn't in the news a lot 534 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 5: preceding the fact that he basically disclosed who's under investigation 535 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 5: and then immediately started fundraising after that for that issue, saying, hey, 536 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 5: I'm you know, a target of Donald Trump and this 537 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 5: is a political representation issue. 538 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 3: And on and on. 539 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 5: But we all know that there was a lobbyist who 540 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 5: was working with his former chief of staff, Dana Williamson, 541 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 5: who was wearing a wire and we only know that 542 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 5: thanks to the California Post excellent reporting. So you know, 543 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 5: the California Post has already. 544 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 3: Changed in the game. 545 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 5: I'm a contributed to proud to say I'm a contributor 546 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 5: to the paper and to Christopher Ruffo's team Manhattan Institute, 547 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 5: and they're getting inundated by real journalism all of a sudden. 548 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 5: We have several open records requests out from the Manhattan 549 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 5: Institute into Gavin Newsom's office, and so does the California 550 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 5: Post and we're finding out all kinds of things about 551 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 5: what did the nonprofits, their inner one nonprofit and specifically 552 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 5: Jennifer Newsom's nonprofit that called the Representation Representation Project and 553 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 5: how it interacted with her for profit side. Now, as 554 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 5: I recalled John and Randy, I remember reporting on Michael Pax, 555 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 5: a similar investigation, a US attorney's investigation from DC Michael 556 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 5: from the same exact issue his nonprofit was interacting, money 557 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 5: was flowing in between the two to its for profit side. 558 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 5: He's a documentary filmmaker who Trump appointed to head the 559 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 5: US Agency for Global Media. Interestingly enough, he had to 560 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 5: make restitution in the end, his for profit side, I believe, 561 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 5: had to pay his nonprofit back two hundred thousand dollars. So, 562 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 5: you know, this is something that comes up from time 563 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 5: to time. If you are going to create a nonprofit 564 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 5: has to be for the public good and it's subject 565 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,959 Speaker 5: federal law. So we'll see what comes out of this investigation. 566 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 5: But supposedly, you know, we know that Dana Williamson's colleague 567 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 5: probably former colleague right now, because she wore a wire 568 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 5: for more than a year and who knows what in 569 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 5: conversation she picked up and who she talked to will 570 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,959 Speaker 5: find out when the investigation is final. 571 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 2: You know, a lot of people pass around these emails 572 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 2: that show four families running California, where it's the Pelosis, 573 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 2: the new Zooms, the Browns, and I don't know the 574 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 2: Getty's or whomever. And I think the working assumption is 575 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 2: they're all ultra wealthy, they all have tons and tons 576 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: and tons of money. 577 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: And I don't. 578 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 2: Necessarily think that's entirely accurate when it comes to Newsoms 579 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 2: the way I see it, and correct me if I'm wrong. 580 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 2: The Newsoms have access to money. They have it in 581 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 2: their social network. Her family is rich. The Gettys have 582 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 2: helped finance his various businesses and his political career. But 583 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 2: it's the people around them with the money. It's not 584 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 2: them with the money. Because a lot of people look 585 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 2: at these allegations or look at these stories that are percolating, 586 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 2: and they go, why in the world would the Newsoms 587 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 2: waste their time with a side hustle. They're rich, he's 588 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 2: politically ambitious. He could be president. And I say, just 589 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 2: because they're around money doesn't mean they have it. They 590 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 2: have a very expensive lifestyle. The kids go to private schools, 591 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 2: they go on luxury vacations, they wear the finest clothes. 592 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: She's a movie star, for heaven's sake. We know that 593 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 2: how they live. So I assume it costs a fortune 594 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 2: to run that operation. And if you're not sitting on 595 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 2: the billions of the bank, as they are not, then yeah, 596 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 2: it does make sense why you would do a side hustle, 597 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 2: particularly if you appointed the Attorney General who's the one 598 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 2: who's supposed to be looking after these sorts of things. 599 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: Rob Bonta is never going to blow the whistle on him. 600 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 2: The oversight from the legislature isn't going to happen. Let's 601 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: not forget what happened during COVID when he ruled us 602 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 2: like a king and rendered the legislature to be totally irrelevant. 603 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 2: They really haven't bounced back and asserted their authority as 604 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 2: a coequal branch of government. I could easily see why 605 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 2: the Nuisance would do something like this if they think 606 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: no one is minding the store. 607 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 5: Well, they did have to have her wealthy parents, who 608 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 5: were Republicans at least at one point, who live in Montana, 609 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 5: sign off on their latest purchase of their multimillion dollar 610 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 5: home name I think as a nine million dollar home, 611 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 5: as Jen leven Laar has reported on extensively. So yes, 612 00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 5: she's used to a very luxurious lifestyle and with her parents, 613 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 5: and like you said, all this ties to Hollywood. You know, 614 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 5: she had ties to Harvey Weinstein too, and then she 615 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 5: at once, at one point try testified against him. But 616 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 5: you know there's disputing on whether that was prodded or not, 617 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 5: because you know, the originator of the Me Too movement 618 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 5: said she called her up and said, what can we 619 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,959 Speaker 5: do for you? On behalf of Harvey's Weinstein's how can 620 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 5: we make you happy? So you know, she does run 621 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 5: around in these circles, and I felt like the nonprofit, 622 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 5: and I think the jury still out on whether the 623 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 5: nonprofit did break any laws or not. I don't know 624 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,479 Speaker 5: if she did it for money per se. I mean, 625 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 5: she did collect more than a million dollars from that nonprofit, 626 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 5: reported and I was one of the first people to 627 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 5: report that in our book Fools Gold. But since then, 628 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 5: the California Posts has updated that number, and it's they 629 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 5: quoted some people saying it's a disproportionate number to me 630 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 5: her salary to the amount she brought in for that 631 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 5: particular charity. I don't think it's bringing in a ton 632 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 5: of money. But she needed to have a platform. I 633 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 5: felt like she wanted to have a platform so she 634 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 5: could run when he ran for president, when she knew 635 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 5: he was going to or wanted to. And so why 636 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 5: didn't she just join another nonprofit? Why did she have 637 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 5: to have this There's two nonprofits that she has. She 638 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 5: has one for that promotes women on corporate boards and 639 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 5: women in the workforce more equity, and then she has 640 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 5: this other gender justice that's related to her documentary filmmaking. 641 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 5: So if she wanted to promote more women in the workforce, 642 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 5: I think there's plenty of nonprofits that already exists for that. 643 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 5: But it is the documentary filmmaking nonprofit that I have 644 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 5: the deepest concerns about, because she's selling these documentaries to 645 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 5: public schools to screen them. She's charging a fee to 646 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 5: screen them, and I want to know. There's been a 647 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 5: lot of scrutiny over whether the guy idents from the 648 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 5: Department of Education suggested or even did more to require 649 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 5: these films, not require, but suggest. I want to see. 650 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 5: That's what one of my open records request is about, 651 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 5: to see how persvasive, persuasive, or mandating they were on 652 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 5: requiring her films to be screened in California public schools 653 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 5: for a fee. You know, that's where I have my 654 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 5: biggest concerns about this scenario, because some of these films 655 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 5: are you know, if you take a look at them, 656 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 5: which I have, uh, they have some really indecent and 657 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 5: somebody say it might say even pornographic material in them, 658 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,720 Speaker 5: and then they have this this pro transgender ideology aspect 659 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 5: of them too, and part of the curriculum of one 660 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 5: of the films which they have a genderbread man where 661 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 5: you have interchangeable gender identities, and so you know, I 662 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 5: have real problems with in such a top down indoctrination 663 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 5: approach in our public schools, well. 664 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: Especially if she's profiting from it. 665 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 2: I remember back when I was a political science student 666 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 2: as an undergraduate, we all had to take an ethics class, 667 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 2: and this way they explained it was, you run for office, 668 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 2: you get elected, you say I want to spend money 669 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 2: on my priorities Okay, that's step one. Step two, I 670 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 2: want to spend money on my priorities and I want 671 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 2: to give the contract to my friend. Okay, that's fine. 672 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 2: Step three, I want to spend money on my priorities. 673 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 2: I want to give the contract to my friend, and 674 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 2: some of that money is going to find its way 675 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 2: back to me. 676 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 1: That's when you go to prison. 677 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 2: And it seems like if they really went to step three, 678 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 2: they could find themselves in a heap of trouble. 679 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, why did And that's the same issues that we 680 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 5: have with this diaper gate issue. You know, why did 681 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 5: they need a nonprofit who's happened to be friends the 682 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 5: head of the nonprofit happens to be friends with Jennifer 683 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,320 Speaker 5: c will Newsome and I believe singing on the board. 684 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 5: I will do a fact check on that afterwards, but 685 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 5: sits on one of her nonprofit boards. Why did Gavin 686 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,919 Speaker 5: Newsom had to go through the nonprofit? If you want 687 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 5: to give provide, if you really truly want to be 688 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 5: the nanny state and provide diapers for newborns, then when 689 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 5: I just give a cupe on for to costco to 690 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 5: people to buy these diapers, I don't see why you 691 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,919 Speaker 5: have to run through. It's always a nonprofit in California. 692 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,879 Speaker 5: Even Steve Hilton's new the new ad featuring him run 693 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 5: Fighting the Machine has a guy on with the word nonprofits. 694 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 5: I had with the nonprofits on it because I've done 695 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 5: so much reporting the issue of, you know, this impropriety 696 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 5: or ethics concerns raised by these nonprofits, including with Rob 697 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 5: Bond and his wife. You know, there's a lot of 698 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 5: a lot of smoke there too, a lot of they've 699 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 5: got to slap with an ethical fine for securing money 700 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 5: for her nonprofits, And I just goes, we don't need 701 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 5: all of these non profits in California. It's like an 702 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 5: extension to our government. When I was doing my reporting 703 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:11,240 Speaker 5: for the Immigration Legal Services illegal immigrant services story for 704 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 5: the City Journal, you would not believe how many nonprofits 705 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 5: exist for illegal immigrant services in California. There's one for 706 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,959 Speaker 5: every minority. I mean, it's unbelievable, and it's my life. 707 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 1: We're going to have to leave it there. 708 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 2: Susan Crabtree, senior national political correspondent for Real Clear Politics, 709 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 2: author of the book Full's Gold. The Radicals, con artists 710 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 2: and traders who killed the California Dream and now threaten us. 711 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 2: All available online at Amazon dot com. You can follow 712 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 2: Susan on x at Susan Crabtree. Susan Crabtree, thanks so 713 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 2: much for stopping by. 714 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 5: Thanks John, thanks so much for having me. 715 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 4: It's the John Phillip Show. And you know, this has 716 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:57,280 Speaker 4: been quite a month. 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