S1: I have the one. The only, Mr. Dawson.
S2: I'm so excited to be on the Workwoman podcast.
S1: It has been a while. It's been, I think, almost
S1: three months since you've been on the podcast, and on
S1: the last episode, you were so excited to be with
S1: me on these podcasts. I love it. Why does it
S1: take so long to get you back? Because we're.
S2: Busy. We're all over. We're in seven cities in ten days.
S2: What you need to do is you need to learn
S2: to do these on the airplane where we can have it.
S2: Be quiet. Because that's where usually where you and I
S2: are spending our time talking because airplanes.
S1: Have no background noise. Yeah, exactly. They're super, super quiet.
S1: All right, so for today's topic, I think this is
S1: a juicy one because I know people are curious about
S1: just wedding stuff in general. I was just telling Brandon
S1: that when you type in Natalie Workman on Google, the
S1: third search is wedding. And I'm not even married. I've
S1: never had a wedding, but it's just a very popular
S1: thing that people like, want to know about and want to.
S2: I want to know about it.
S1: Have an understanding. Yeah. I'm. This is also my update
S1: to Brandon as to what's happening with the wedding.
S2: This is an opportunity for all of us to hear
S2: the update. We were supposed to get married last year,
S2: and I watched you put all the preparation, and we
S2: were so excited about it. And then all of a sudden,
S2: we had to call it off because of Covid, because
S2: of Covid, and we lost our destination and people were
S2: not allowed to get in the country and stuff. I
S2: watched you handle that like an absolute, like solid like
S2: like she she just said, you know what? There's a
S2: reason for this. We're just going to push it off
S2: a year and we're going to deal with it in
S2: a year. You didn't let it destroy all the good stuff,
S2: because we had such a great business year last year,
S2: and you just were like, I'm not going to let
S2: it ruin the good stuff that we have going.
S1: This really has been wedding planning from hell, and I
S1: keep telling Brandon that I feel very lucky that it's
S1: me as a bride who is going through this, because
S1: I honestly think that most, most brides that I know
S1: and most people in a similar position, uh.
S2: Yeah, they'd be freaking out. Trust me.
S1: Just like. yeah, really upset or emotional. And I think I'm,
S1: I feel very fortunate to not be so tied up.
S1: And that's taken a lot of I mean, you.
S2: Literally went and got fitted for your dress with your
S2: girlfriends when you took off from New York last year.
S1: Yeah, I was, so I just went to get fitting
S1: with the guys are so much to talk about, but
S1: I just went to do some dress fittings, my first
S1: round of dress fittings last week, and they told me
S1: that I was the last weekend of fittings in New
S1: York for wedding dresses, after or before the pandemic.
S2: Well, you landed and then everything got shut down.
S1: Everything New York shut down two days later. So yeah,
S1: this wedding and what we want to talk about is
S1: a giving you guys an update, because this really has
S1: been like the wedding from hell. Um, the wedding planning
S1: from hell. The wedding will be beautiful. Don't you worry.
S1: The wedding will be beautiful. But the planning really has
S1: been stressful. And so how do you manage that stress?
S1: I want to give you some of the tips that
S1: I have learned through this process. And how do you
S1: continue to focus on making it the right thing, which
S1: is it has nothing to do with the party and
S1: has everything to do with ensuring that the relationship that
S1: you're in, like I know that I'm demonstrating to him
S1: through every single decision that's being made, the type of
S1: partner that I'm going to be, and if I'm stressed
S1: out and worried about it and frantic like that ruins
S1: our dynamic and the whole thing, the whole freaking thing
S1: is for us to be together and make this decision
S1: for the rest of our.
S2: 100%, and to be around people we love and we
S2: care about. We were supposed to get married October of
S2: last year, and so things changed even in our personal lives.
S2: Like somebody that was in the wedding, that is one
S2: of my best friends. We don't have much of a
S2: relationship in the last year. All of a sudden we're
S2: getting up closer to the wedding and I'm like, I
S2: don't necessarily want that person in my wedding because they're
S2: not supporting us. They're not involved with us. They're not
S2: interested in us even though we're interested in them. This
S2: is somebody I love near and dear for 15 years,
S2: and they've chose not to have any communication or any
S2: involvement in our life, won't respond as to why. And
S2: so I told Natalie I was like, look, as much
S2: as I love everything that person stands for, I don't
S2: want them in my wedding party. I don't want a drainer,
S2: or I don't want to have someone that's not contributing
S2: to our life. And so it was a hard conversation
S2: to say, hey, I'm doing a player change. Yeah.
S1: And I think that that would be the first tip
S1: that I would have is invite the people that you
S1: actually want there, even if it's an uncomfortable conversation. Right now,
S1: I feel very little stress about the event in general
S1: because I'm not trying to impress anybody. I'm not trying
S1: to make it about anybody besides us and the people
S1: that we're actually making it about, which really is our family.
S1: But none of our friends or people like we just
S1: our true friends, as many, our true.
S2: Friends are going to be there. Yeah.
S1: And they're going to have a blast.
S2: And our our true friends that can't be there. There's
S2: a reason they can't be there. We're not going to
S2: hold it against them either. But one thing is for certain,
S2: the people that are there, we are going to have
S2: a remarkable time. It's going to be a great experience.
S1: Yes. So the tip.
S2: Celebrating.
S1: I know it's been a while since you've done a podcast,
S1: but we share our experience and then we share a
S1: tip like something that they can use. That's not about
S1: us that they can apply to their lives.
S2: Oh, perfect. That's why this is your podcast.
S1: So the thing that you would apply in that situation
S1: is like, seriously, only invite the people that you actually
S1: want to celebrate you guys. And if you haven't seen
S1: them in a while, and even if it's been a while,
S1: but if you don't really have a strong relationship with
S1: the person, don't invite them. And if you invite those people,
S1: that's what's actually going to create the anxiousness. Like, I
S1: don't feel anxious about everything that we're about to talk about,
S1: because I know that it's just the people that freaking
S1: love us and support us and are only there for
S1: the two of us. If I would have invited and
S1: made some different decisions for other people that I felt like, oh,
S1: I feel obligated, or I need to make sure that
S1: they're well taken care of. I would feel pressure right
S1: now as shit falls apart, which it will and it does.
S2: And it has. Trust me, we get a new text
S2: every few days of the shit falling apart.
S1: So from a shit falling apart. Let's let's cancelling.
S2: Last year's wedding. Cancelling, resetting this year's wedding.
S1: Yes. Resetting this year's wedding for the date, and then
S1: all of a sudden. Hold on. You can't say too
S1: much about this because we have certain things that we
S1: can and can't say because of legal requirements. We were
S1: notified that we no longer have a venue for our
S1: welcome party, and that the hotel that we were going
S1: to have said welcome party at is no longer operating
S1: for the moment. So our room bloc got cancelled. The venue.
S1: We have to.
S2: And the city happens to be unlike any normal time.
S2: The whole city happens to be completely full, sold out.
S2: We picked a period of time where normally people aren't
S2: there yet and everything is sold out.
S1: Everything is sold out. So the day has now changed
S1: because on the original day on the ninth, we had
S1: a plan that it was going to be the welcome
S1: party and then the wedding on the 10th. The next day,
S1: the ninth. There is not a single venue that we
S1: can use, so we've moved it to the eighth. Now
S1: the rehearsal dinner will have to happen on the ninth.
S1: And we still at this moment, just like just for
S1: some context, so people really understand. It's August 16th, the
S1: wedding wedding's in less than two months in October, and
S1: we don't.
S2: Have a venue and.
S1: We don't have a venue.
S2: For. We lost our.
S1: Beach. So now let's talk about the actual wedding. You'd
S1: think like, oh, not having a welcome party venue. That's
S1: not the worst. Like, that's not wedding planning from hell. Uh,
S1: this past week, we decided to go, uh, to New
S1: York because I, like the genius I am, decided to
S1: pick out the dresses for the wedding in New York.
S1: And I didn't think through the fact that the fittings
S1: have to happen in New York. And so we flew
S1: to New York. There was a couple other things that
S1: we were doing for business, so it actually worked out perfectly.
S1: But I am just like, finally in what I would,
S1: I guess, describe as like bridal bliss.
S2: She was. So can I tell you? She was like,
S2: you know what? When we were landing, she's like, I'm
S2: actually I had disengaged because you had such a great
S2: time with your friends and your bridesmaids last year, but
S2: because everything got pushed off. So we were laying and
S2: you're like, it's just hitting me. It's just hitting me.
S2: I'm getting so excited again because we've been so busy
S2: and we land. I don't even think we were on
S2: the ground.
S1: No, I had just gone through the fitting, so I
S1: had just finally like. And the dress. I was a
S1: little nervous as the dress. Still, what I'm going to
S1: like is it going to fit? And I finally I
S1: was by myself. I did these fittings and like I
S1: made this comment and I was like, I feel like
S1: such an adult. Like this is something that an adult does.
S1: And I know I'm clearly an adult. But anyway, it
S1: was just like this moment, this moment.
S2: You had allowed yourself to really get excited because of
S2: all pushing it off.
S1: I've had to create some distance because it's by nature
S1: an emotional thing. And so I finally feel like, wow,
S1: this is all coming together, and isn't this going to
S1: be fun? And we're finally having these conversations, and I get.
S2: Together with her and we're you're explaining to me all
S2: this experience and how exciting it is and how exciting
S2: it was. And your phone goes ding ding. And you
S2: looked at it and you go, no freaking way.
S1: Yeah. So we no longer still to this day, have
S1: a venue for the wedding.
S2: There was a storm and it destroyed the beach and
S2: sucked it off of the cliff line, so there's no
S2: freaking beach.
S1: Of beach has been removed because where.
S2: We were doing our actual wedding.
S1: We have a lot of connections to this place, which
S1: is why we scheduled the wedding anyway. So again, as
S1: of today, we we don't have a venue for either
S1: events for this wedding that is supposed to be happening
S1: in two months. And granted, we honestly have the most
S1: incredible planners. I would highly recommend them. Countdown events have
S1: been remarkable throughout this whole process, but at the moment
S1: we're still like calling hotels and trying to figure out
S1: we have.
S2: Friends calling us, saying our room blocks have been canceled.
S2: We can't get other rooms, where are we staying? Where
S2: are we staying happening? Is it going to happen? Is
S2: it not going to happen? We have family calling every
S2: day and texting. Is this really going to happen? Is
S2: it not going to happen? What do we tell our friends?
S1: It's chaos. I've been able to send out invites because
S1: on the invites that has we just changed.
S2: The dates and the.
S1: Venues changed the venue. So long story Longer. It has
S1: been a bit of a clusterfuck kind of clusterfuck, but
S1: we're still getting married and this is the decision. At
S1: some point, you just have to make the decision like
S1: what matters to you. And in that moment, I felt
S1: like a little bit of a gut punch because I
S1: finally felt excited and then was back to, oh my God,
S1: here we go again. However, when you have these moments,
S1: you have to prioritize what is actually important. So for me,
S1: is it important? Is being on this beach? The most
S1: important thing or is getting married to him this October
S1: the most important thing? Like that's really the decision. And
S1: in an instant I can make that decision. It's us
S1: getting married this October. We do not want to continue
S1: to push this off. We don't want to create uncertainty
S1: with our family and our friends. We're making the commitment
S1: to get married.
S2: And no matter where we do it at and no
S2: matter how we do it, you don't get to cry.
S2: You almost cried a minute ago. I know.
S1: But you don't get to cry. I'm not crying, okay?
S2: But I can get you to cry if I just. Well,
S2: if my eyes welled up a little bit. So. So
S2: here's the thing, though. I promise that no matter what happens,
S2: we're going to get married and we're going to enjoy
S2: whoever happens to be with us, no matter where we
S2: happen to be, no matter what we happen to be doing,
S2: and no matter how we happen to be doing it.
S2: Because right now we don't have a fucking clue where
S2: anything is happening. And we're and we're and we're we're
S2: seven weeks out.
S1: I guess my second tip on this would be, I
S1: want to give permission to people to go through this
S1: logical process, but also feel emotional, like it is okay
S1: to be upset and to be frustrated. However, if you
S1: really can think about, okay, who do I want to
S1: be in this process? Do I want to be the
S1: person that's so freaked out over this one weekend of
S1: my lifetime? No, I don't want to be that person.
S1: I could work myself to be that person. But is
S1: that really who I want to be in this next
S1: chapter of my life? Absolutely not. I'm just going to
S1: roll with things. If you're going through something similar, if
S1: it's a wedding or anything else that is important to
S1: you while shit is falling apart everywhere, how can you
S1: consciously say, I'm not going to be reactionary. I'm not
S1: going to send a text message that sends things sideways.
S1: I'm not going to engage in a way that isn't
S1: beneficial to set the example for the people around you,
S1: but also to define how you respond to stressful situations.
S2: I think that's the resilience. What I love about you
S2: the most is your resilience.
S3: Well thank you. Yeah.
S1: I need you to stop talking or else you're gonna
S1: make me cry.
S2: Well, because. Because I want you to cry. I want
S2: to I mean, I love it when you cry.
S3: I'm not going to do it.
S2: I'll cry. Look at my eyes. I look like I'm crying.
S2: Because the truth is, is that I just want to
S2: marry her. Like I could give a shit. Like. Like, let's.
S2: Let's just get married. I want to get married. I
S2: love her right now. Right now. Here's my bottle of Pellegrino.
S2: Keep it forever. We have so much and so many
S2: great things going on in our life that this is
S2: a celebration.
S1: And this is something that Elena also talks about in
S1: her book, Build an Empire, where if you're so wrapped
S1: up in this wedding and I think this is more
S1: of a female thing than a.
S4: Male thing.
S1: I'm going to get into this in just a second here.
S1: But if you're so caught up in the wedding, what
S1: you're actually not thinking about is how to make a
S1: future plan with this person. And if this moment is
S1: so important to you, and you're starting to feel all
S1: of this stress and anxiousness around it because you're making
S1: it so important. Yes, it's important. But then how do
S1: you figure out on the back end, like what's going
S1: to pull you forward and create the marriage that you
S1: want to have with this person? For us, we have
S1: a ten x 360 like our our honeymoon.
S3: We're going for.
S2: Days. We're doing our honeymoon. So so this is no
S2: bullshit because all these changes and everything, we're pushing dates around.
S2: And the next question we asked each other is, look,
S2: we're taking a couple weeks off for ourselves. We've been
S2: working every single week, every single weekend now for almost
S2: 40 months or whatever. We were like, okay, we're going
S2: to take that time and do our honeymoon. We're so
S2: excited about it. And then we both were sitting there going,
S2: how long is our honeymoon? We're like, oh, we're going
S2: to do four days, and we're like, where are we
S2: going to be at? Oh, we're going to be in
S2: this part of Mexico. We're like, let's put a ten
S2: x360 on the end of it. We're going.
S3: To put our mastermind.
S1: On the end of it, and then we're like, well, wait,
S1: because of the wedding weekend, we need a 360 in Miami.
S3: And so so we.
S2: Literally are.
S3: Going to come honeymoon short.
S2: So we could come here because you know what? We
S2: really do love. We love building business together and we
S2: love being together. And we love working hard together. And
S2: as much as we want to go on that honeymoon
S2: and be able to, we literally said, how many days
S2: are we going to be able to relax before we
S2: start getting nervous? We need to go back to work.
S3: Well, and it's.
S1: Not even just that. It's the impact that we're creating
S1: in the life that we're building together. And this would
S1: be I'm not married yet, but my future self marital
S1: advice is okay. These business owners that we get the
S1: opportunity to work with and that we get the opportunity
S1: to create events around like they actually need us. They
S1: need us to show up to this. They need us
S1: to help them with their people, challenges and family dynamics
S1: because the business is broken, or they need us to
S1: understand from a financial standpoint what the plan looks like
S1: so that they can exit the family member that they've
S1: been trying to work through. And so for us this
S1: ten x 360, we're like, this is going to pull
S1: us forward after the wedding. But it's also what fulfills
S1: our life together. And so if you're in the middle
S1: of wedding planning or if you're just in a rut
S1: with your significant other, how can you put something on
S1: the calendar that pulls you forward through the thing that
S1: you're excited about, that is in alignment with how you're
S1: building your life and your priorities together?
S2: Because we spend so much time with so many business
S2: owners that are struggling at different points in their business,
S2: it could be struggling professionally, could be struggling personally, it
S2: could be struggling financially, it could be family things. It
S2: could be kids working in the business with parents. We
S2: get pulled into everyone's struggle because that's where our expertise is.
S2: And I think you and I started having a conversation
S2: about if we can't handle our shit in adversity. How
S2: do we have the confidence to help others when they're
S2: in adversity? And so we made a conscious choice of
S2: we're going to be the best version of ourselves, despite
S2: what's thrown at us, because we want to be the
S2: example to the people that we're helping be the best
S2: version of themselves. And that's where we're sitting there going, okay,
S2: so we're going to go have a remarkable week getting married.
S2: We're going to go have a remarkable honeymoon with some
S2: very special friends that we're bringing along with us, because
S2: we want to spend time with them, and then we're
S2: going to go right back to work, and we're going
S2: to go and create a life, the life we choose
S2: to create. And we spend most of our time in
S2: chaos helping other people through chaos. So if we can't
S2: manage our own chaos, how the hell can we help
S2: somebody manage theirs?
S3: We're chaos managers.
S1: We're co chaos managers. Um, with that. So I think
S1: this is like the stuff people want to know about
S1: the behind the scenes of planning a wedding. I think
S1: one thing people ask other people often and I wish.
S3: I would.
S1: Have known is around the involvement that he has in
S1: the wedding planning process, and I would just like to
S1: be very clear that, uh, he you think you just have, like,
S1: these romantic ideas of the person being, like, so interested
S1: and you both are trying things and picking out the flowers. Brandon,
S1: I don't think you have. You sat through one wedding
S1: meeting at this point. Not that I have a bunch
S1: of them, but I don't think you've been to one.
S2: Well, I here's what I know from a man's perspective.
S2: You're going to pick what you want. You're going to
S2: pick how you want it to be. You're going to
S2: pick the colors. You're going to pick the flowers. You're
S2: going to pick the location.
S3: But like as a.
S1: Woman, you think that the person is going to be
S1: really interested, even though I'm going to pick it, of
S1: course I'm going to pick.
S2: It. Yeah, so I don't. So I know better than
S2: to get in your way of having an opinion, but.
S3: You think that.
S1: You'd be more interested. And I just want to be clear.
S1: It's not like you're that interested in the wedding.
S2: I'm really interested. I can't wait for it.
S3: But I'm not going to get interested. But I'm not.
S2: Going to get between your decisions and my opinions, because
S2: I'm a smart enough man to know that that doesn't.
S3: Work either.
S1: Right now to say that.
S3: Yeah, just.
S2: I'm trying to.
S3: Help. I'm trying to help your interest. And there's not
S3: a lot of interest.
S2: There is interest. Can I tell you I'm going to
S2: help your female listeners? I'm going to give them a secret.
S2: I'm going to give them a secret.
S3: Can you give it to me, too?
S1: I'm so curious.
S3: I'm going to give it to.
S2: You, and I'm going to give it to them. Any
S2: smart man does not throw their opinions between the desires
S2: and wants of the person they love. While they're planning
S2: the wedding, all that's going to do is add stress resistance, friction,
S2: anxiety into the equation. And this is one time I
S2: don't need to be right. I want her to be right.
S2: I want her to be happy, and I want her
S2: to be okay with me taking a back seat, because
S2: normally I drive decisions. But, but and because, you know,
S2: I'm the man in the relationship. I tell you what
S2: to do. This is all bullshit. But the truth is,
S2: I'm not putting myself between whatever she wants for the
S2: wedding and my opinion, because that isn't going to create.
S1: Clearly, you feel a little defensive right now.
S3: Yeah, because.
S2: You're putting me on the spot on a.
S3: Podcast.
S2: I'm defending every man who allows and takes a back
S2: seat so that the woman can get exactly what she wants.
S3: Great.
S1: Well, all the ladies understand exactly what just happened here.
S1: And could he be. Could he show 25% more interest? Yes.
S1: Is it okay that he doesn't? Yes, because he is
S1: very busy doing other things. And I am thankful that
S1: he is busy doing those other things.
S3: Can we be.
S2: Fair, though? I'm spending a lot of energy being interested
S2: in financing a big part of it.
S3: Well, yeah, which is what.
S1: I was going to talk about. So budgeting. But I
S1: think the second biggest question that people have is like, well,
S1: how does the dynamic work when it comes to making
S1: spending decisions around the wedding?
S3: And I think, how does that work? Well.
S1: The way that it's worked for us is we set
S1: a budget, and I've gone significantly over budget because of
S1: all of these changes that keep taking place. And what
S1: is great about you, however not necessary. Like I go,
S1: I waffle in between, like canceling the whole thing because
S1: I think the whole, the whole expense is ridiculous. And
S1: in going and on the other hand, creating this amazing,
S1: remarkable event that.
S2: You don't know that anybody's going to show up to,
S2: or we're going to have a beach to go to
S2: or anything else. So it's.
S3: Kind of like.
S1: I really have like logically worked my way out of
S1: like needing to have this, like outrageous wedding.
S3: However, it's going to be outrageous, it'll be.
S1: Beautiful and it'll be spectacular. But from a budgeting standpoint,
S1: I think if I was giving somebody tips around this,
S1: it would be to figure out what you want to
S1: spend and what you're willing, like the percentage of how
S1: much you're willing to go over, because it's kind of
S1: like a house, like you will end up going over.
S3: And you might as well.
S2: Acknowledge that on the front end. So you're not adding
S2: stress and complaining or bitching. Set your budget. Give yourself
S2: a 20%, 25% wiggle room. All I'm going to say
S2: is there's just no value in creating stress. And that's
S2: one thing that I like. I try not to say, oh, well,
S2: what about this or that? Because I want it to
S2: be perfect. I set the budget with you and you're
S2: doing the best job you can to work within the budget.
S2: But I don't want to have conflict leading up to
S2: the wedding, and I don't want to have conflict afterwards.
S2: And for some of you, you might say, well, that's
S2: easy for you to do because you guys have a
S2: lot of money or you make a lot of money.
S2: You got to be responsible for setting the bar. You know,
S2: like my kids got married on my property. They still
S2: had a budget and they operated within the budget. So
S2: what I would say to people is pick your lane,
S2: stay in your lane and don't don't use that stress.
S2: If you go a little over a little under to
S2: distract from the whole reason you're you're going to marry
S2: in the first place. We want to live the rest
S2: of our life together. Yeah. And and.
S3: And create confidence.
S1: In each other.
S3: And create confidence in each other as.
S1: To what we're spending more on versus less on. The
S1: things that are important to me are like the experiences
S1: that are.
S3: Created, the.
S2: Party.
S1: Yeah. So like I want a photographer there for the
S1: guests to be able to take photos so that we
S1: can have these photos for a very long time.
S3: How about forever?
S1: Forever and.
S3: For my. Ever.
S2: My ever is not very long. Your ever is a
S2: long time.
S3: So stuff like this. Forever.
S1: Ever. Another thing that we're spending on is like a house.
S1: To be able to have people in and be able
S1: to spend time like that was a that's a big
S1: expense in the P and L of our wedding. However,
S1: the balance sheet of our wedding, however, like that's really
S1: important to us, is to be able to be around
S1: the people that we are inviting there. As it's a
S1: destination wedding, we don't want to be going off into
S1: separate places. So it's just stuff like that where I'm
S1: cutting things out that don't add value to the experience
S1: that's actually taking place. All right. What was else on
S1: my list? Is he interested? Venues. The last name okay.
S1: We've gone round and round about the last name.
S3: No, she has, I haven't.
S1: Well, I tried to convince him to change his last name.
S3: Yeah, we knew that.
S2: Wasn't going to work after the first.
S3: Day?
S1: I just here's my thing, guys. I love my last name.
S1: It has nothing.
S2: I love her last name too.
S1: It's not even like a I'm not trying to be
S1: like a woman and, like, keep my last name. It's
S1: just because I love the last name Workman. And I
S1: think it's a strong last name. My podcast, the show
S1: is called Work Woman because of my last name. And
S1: I've launching a book coming up. It has the word
S1: work in it because of my last name, and so
S1: that's been difficult for me. But I am going to
S1: become a Dawson. Did you know this? Have we talked
S1: about this?
S2: No. We're finding this is this is this is like
S2: a breaking news, like I because here's the thing I
S2: don't have I think there's nothing wrong with you having
S2: Natalie Workman Dawson or like, I didn't.
S3: Think.
S2: I didn't even think there was anything wrong with with
S2: you keeping your your name. I like it because everyone
S2: calls me Mr. Workman. I mean, we check every restaurant.
S3: This is used to. Not like this.
S2: No, no, but I love it now because I'm, like, incognito.
S2: Whenever we walk up to a restaurant, they're like, Mr. Workman. Mrs.
S2: Workman will show you because she makes all the reservations.
S2: So everything is under workman. So we come.
S1: In, really piss.
S3: Him off.
S2: I mean, like workman.
S3: I mean, can't you use.
S1: My open table account to book the reservation.
S2: Which I never even had an open table account. I
S2: have no technology that has my name on it. She
S2: loads everything for me. Six years or seven years, however
S2: long I've been called Mr. Workman everywhere I go. And
S2: so the running joke in the Workman family is we're
S2: all workman's.
S1: I like that. Well, so should I take my decision back?
S2: No, because I'm not gonna. I'm not changing my last name.
S2: But you could be, should I?
S3: You could.
S1: I was just about to say I was gonna do Dawson, like.
S3: Natalie Dawson's.
S2: A gorgeous.
S3: Name, but then.
S1: I drop, so I drop work for.
S3: Work. Well, why don't.
S2: You, Natalie? Work?
S3: I think it's Dawson. I'll keep you guys posted.
S1: Like you'll know very shortly what the decision is, but
S1: I think it's confusing for other people. This has been.
S1: The deliberation is I could hyphenate the last name, but then, like,
S1: why not just, like, go all in on the relationship, like,
S1: I'm not hedging.
S3: Well, I don't think.
S2: The last name. I don't think not having the. Maybe
S2: this is a poll you should do with your audience.
S2: I personally don't feel attacked if you hyphenated your name.
S2: If you if it was Natalie, because you have a brand,
S2: you have a brand that you're building around work woman
S2: maybe you just keep the work woman brand in in.
S2: When people ask you where did you come up with that?
S2: You explain it to them, but I wouldn't be offended.
S1: Okay, well, I'll keep you guys posted on this with that.
S1: This has been quite the. Well, thank.
S2: You for having me on your show again. And and
S2: I hope that everyone that's listening to this realizes that
S2: shit happens, and it's how you choose to react to
S2: it that defines you as a person.
S1: We would also love to see you at a ten
S1: x 360 event at the first, of course, ten x
S1: 360 event as a married couple.
S2: And for those that were seeing at the wedding, we
S2: cannot wait to see you.
S1: It is happening the weekend after the weekend of the 10th.
S1: So that is October.
S3: 17th, 18th.
S1: 17th and 18th. We're having a ten x 360 in
S1: Miami as the official.
S3: And trust me.
S2: Trust me, there will be a party there too.
S3: Oh, there will for.
S1: Sure be a party. How will you introduce me? My.
S2: I don't know yet. You have to decide.
S1: My wife, Mrs. Dawson. Yeah, crazy. If you're interested in
S1: that event, which you should be very interested. If you're
S1: a business owner, go to Cardone Ventures. Dot com forward
S1: slash ten x 360. And we would love to get
S1: you signed up.
S2: And for all of those that we'll be seeing at
S2: our wedding, thank you for loving us. Oh.
S1: Wow. Okay. Well we appreciate you guys. Thank you for listening.
S1: If you haven't already shared this episode, please do. And
S1: I can hardly wait to see you guys next week.
S5: Thanks for having me on the work Woman show.
UU: Hey. You're welcome.