WEBVTT - EP 52 | N+B: Wedding Planning Hell

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<v S1>I have the one. The only, Mr. Dawson.

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<v S2>I'm so excited to be on the Workwoman podcast.

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<v S1>It has been a while. It's been, I think, almost

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<v S1>three months since you've been on the podcast, and on

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<v S1>the last episode, you were so excited to be with

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<v S1>me on these podcasts. I love it. Why does it

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<v S1>take so long to get you back? Because we're.

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<v S2>Busy. We're all over. We're in seven cities in ten days.

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<v S2>What you need to do is you need to learn

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<v S2>to do these on the airplane where we can have it.

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<v S2>Be quiet. Because that's where usually where you and I

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<v S2>are spending our time talking because airplanes.

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<v S1>Have no background noise. Yeah, exactly. They're super, super quiet.

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<v S1>All right, so for today's topic, I think this is

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<v S1>a juicy one because I know people are curious about

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<v S1>just wedding stuff in general. I was just telling Brandon

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<v S1>that when you type in Natalie Workman on Google, the

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<v S1>third search is wedding. And I'm not even married. I've

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<v S1>never had a wedding, but it's just a very popular

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<v S1>thing that people like, want to know about and want to.

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<v S2>I want to know about it.

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<v S1>Have an understanding. Yeah. I'm. This is also my update

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<v S1>to Brandon as to what's happening with the wedding.

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<v S2>This is an opportunity for all of us to hear

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<v S2>the update. We were supposed to get married last year,

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<v S2>and I watched you put all the preparation, and we

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<v S2>were so excited about it. And then all of a sudden,

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<v S2>we had to call it off because of Covid, because

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<v S2>of Covid, and we lost our destination and people were

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<v S2>not allowed to get in the country and stuff. I

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<v S2>watched you handle that like an absolute, like solid like

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<v S2>like she she just said, you know what? There's a

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<v S2>reason for this. We're just going to push it off

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<v S2>a year and we're going to deal with it in

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<v S2>a year. You didn't let it destroy all the good stuff,

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<v S2>because we had such a great business year last year,

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<v S2>and you just were like, I'm not going to let

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<v S2>it ruin the good stuff that we have going.

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<v S1>This really has been wedding planning from hell, and I

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<v S1>keep telling Brandon that I feel very lucky that it's

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<v S1>me as a bride who is going through this, because

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<v S1>I honestly think that most, most brides that I know

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<v S1>and most people in a similar position, uh.

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<v S2>Yeah, they'd be freaking out. Trust me.

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<v S1>Just like. yeah, really upset or emotional. And I think I'm,

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<v S1>I feel very fortunate to not be so tied up.

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<v S1>And that's taken a lot of I mean, you.

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<v S2>Literally went and got fitted for your dress with your

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<v S2>girlfriends when you took off from New York last year.

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<v S1>Yeah, I was, so I just went to get fitting

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<v S1>with the guys are so much to talk about, but

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<v S1>I just went to do some dress fittings, my first

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<v S1>round of dress fittings last week, and they told me

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<v S1>that I was the last weekend of fittings in New

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<v S1>York for wedding dresses, after or before the pandemic.

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<v S2>Well, you landed and then everything got shut down.

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<v S1>Everything New York shut down two days later. So yeah,

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<v S1>this wedding and what we want to talk about is

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<v S1>a giving you guys an update, because this really has

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<v S1>been like the wedding from hell. Um, the wedding planning

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<v S1>from hell. The wedding will be beautiful. Don't you worry.

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<v S1>The wedding will be beautiful. But the planning really has

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<v S1>been stressful. And so how do you manage that stress?

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<v S1>I want to give you some of the tips that

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<v S1>I have learned through this process. And how do you

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<v S1>continue to focus on making it the right thing, which

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<v S1>is it has nothing to do with the party and

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<v S1>has everything to do with ensuring that the relationship that

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<v S1>you're in, like I know that I'm demonstrating to him

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<v S1>through every single decision that's being made, the type of

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<v S1>partner that I'm going to be, and if I'm stressed

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<v S1>out and worried about it and frantic like that ruins

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<v S1>our dynamic and the whole thing, the whole freaking thing

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<v S1>is for us to be together and make this decision

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<v S1>for the rest of our.

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<v S2>100%, and to be around people we love and we

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<v S2>care about. We were supposed to get married October of

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<v S2>last year, and so things changed even in our personal lives.

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<v S2>Like somebody that was in the wedding, that is one

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<v S2>of my best friends. We don't have much of a

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<v S2>relationship in the last year. All of a sudden we're

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<v S2>getting up closer to the wedding and I'm like, I

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<v S2>don't necessarily want that person in my wedding because they're

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<v S2>not supporting us. They're not involved with us. They're not

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<v S2>interested in us even though we're interested in them. This

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<v S2>is somebody I love near and dear for 15 years,

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<v S2>and they've chose not to have any communication or any

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<v S2>involvement in our life, won't respond as to why. And

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<v S2>so I told Natalie I was like, look, as much

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<v S2>as I love everything that person stands for, I don't

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<v S2>want them in my wedding party. I don't want a drainer,

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<v S2>or I don't want to have someone that's not contributing

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<v S2>to our life. And so it was a hard conversation

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<v S2>to say, hey, I'm doing a player change. Yeah.

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<v S1>And I think that that would be the first tip

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<v S1>that I would have is invite the people that you

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<v S1>actually want there, even if it's an uncomfortable conversation. Right now,

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<v S1>I feel very little stress about the event in general

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<v S1>because I'm not trying to impress anybody. I'm not trying

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<v S1>to make it about anybody besides us and the people

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<v S1>that we're actually making it about, which really is our family.

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<v S1>But none of our friends or people like we just

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<v S1>our true friends, as many, our true.

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<v S2>Friends are going to be there. Yeah.

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<v S1>And they're going to have a blast.

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<v S2>And our our true friends that can't be there. There's

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<v S2>a reason they can't be there. We're not going to

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<v S2>hold it against them either. But one thing is for certain,

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<v S2>the people that are there, we are going to have

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<v S2>a remarkable time. It's going to be a great experience.

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<v S1>Yes. So the tip.

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<v S2>Celebrating.

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<v S1>I know it's been a while since you've done a podcast,

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<v S1>but we share our experience and then we share a

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<v S1>tip like something that they can use. That's not about

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<v S1>us that they can apply to their lives.

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<v S2>Oh, perfect. That's why this is your podcast.

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<v S1>So the thing that you would apply in that situation

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<v S1>is like, seriously, only invite the people that you actually

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<v S1>want to celebrate you guys. And if you haven't seen

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<v S1>them in a while, and even if it's been a while,

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<v S1>but if you don't really have a strong relationship with

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<v S1>the person, don't invite them. And if you invite those people,

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<v S1>that's what's actually going to create the anxiousness. Like, I

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<v S1>don't feel anxious about everything that we're about to talk about,

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<v S1>because I know that it's just the people that freaking

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<v S1>love us and support us and are only there for

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<v S1>the two of us. If I would have invited and

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<v S1>made some different decisions for other people that I felt like, oh,

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<v S1>I feel obligated, or I need to make sure that

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<v S1>they're well taken care of. I would feel pressure right

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<v S1>now as shit falls apart, which it will and it does.

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<v S2>And it has. Trust me, we get a new text

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<v S2>every few days of the shit falling apart.

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<v S1>So from a shit falling apart. Let's let's cancelling.

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<v S2>Last year's wedding. Cancelling, resetting this year's wedding.

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<v S1>Yes. Resetting this year's wedding for the date, and then

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<v S1>all of a sudden. Hold on. You can't say too

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<v S1>much about this because we have certain things that we

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<v S1>can and can't say because of legal requirements. We were

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<v S1>notified that we no longer have a venue for our

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<v S1>welcome party, and that the hotel that we were going

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<v S1>to have said welcome party at is no longer operating

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<v S1>for the moment. So our room bloc got cancelled. The venue.

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<v S1>We have to.

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<v S2>And the city happens to be unlike any normal time.

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<v S2>The whole city happens to be completely full, sold out.

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<v S2>We picked a period of time where normally people aren't

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<v S2>there yet and everything is sold out.

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<v S1>Everything is sold out. So the day has now changed

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<v S1>because on the original day on the ninth, we had

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<v S1>a plan that it was going to be the welcome

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<v S1>party and then the wedding on the 10th. The next day,

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<v S1>the ninth. There is not a single venue that we

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<v S1>can use, so we've moved it to the eighth. Now

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<v S1>the rehearsal dinner will have to happen on the ninth.

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<v S1>And we still at this moment, just like just for

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<v S1>some context, so people really understand. It's August 16th, the

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<v S1>wedding wedding's in less than two months in October, and

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<v S1>we don't.

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<v S2>Have a venue and.

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<v S1>We don't have a venue.

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<v S2>For. We lost our.

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<v S1>Beach. So now let's talk about the actual wedding. You'd

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<v S1>think like, oh, not having a welcome party venue. That's

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<v S1>not the worst. Like, that's not wedding planning from hell. Uh,

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<v S1>this past week, we decided to go, uh, to New

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<v S1>York because I, like the genius I am, decided to

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<v S1>pick out the dresses for the wedding in New York.

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<v S1>And I didn't think through the fact that the fittings

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<v S1>have to happen in New York. And so we flew

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<v S1>to New York. There was a couple other things that

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<v S1>we were doing for business, so it actually worked out perfectly.

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<v S1>But I am just like, finally in what I would,

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<v S1>I guess, describe as like bridal bliss.

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<v S2>She was. So can I tell you? She was like,

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<v S2>you know what? When we were landing, she's like, I'm

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<v S2>actually I had disengaged because you had such a great

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<v S2>time with your friends and your bridesmaids last year, but

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<v S2>because everything got pushed off. So we were laying and

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<v S2>you're like, it's just hitting me. It's just hitting me.

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<v S2>I'm getting so excited again because we've been so busy

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<v S2>and we land. I don't even think we were on

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<v S2>the ground.

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<v S1>No, I had just gone through the fitting, so I

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<v S1>had just finally like. And the dress. I was a

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<v S1>little nervous as the dress. Still, what I'm going to

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<v S1>like is it going to fit? And I finally I

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<v S1>was by myself. I did these fittings and like I

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<v S1>made this comment and I was like, I feel like

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<v S1>such an adult. Like this is something that an adult does.

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<v S1>And I know I'm clearly an adult. But anyway, it

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<v S1>was just like this moment, this moment.

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<v S2>You had allowed yourself to really get excited because of

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<v S2>all pushing it off.

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<v S1>I've had to create some distance because it's by nature

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<v S1>an emotional thing. And so I finally feel like, wow,

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<v S1>this is all coming together, and isn't this going to

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<v S1>be fun? And we're finally having these conversations, and I get.

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<v S2>Together with her and we're you're explaining to me all

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<v S2>this experience and how exciting it is and how exciting

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<v S2>it was. And your phone goes ding ding. And you

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<v S2>looked at it and you go, no freaking way.

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<v S1>Yeah. So we no longer still to this day, have

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<v S1>a venue for the wedding.

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<v S2>There was a storm and it destroyed the beach and

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<v S2>sucked it off of the cliff line, so there's no

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<v S2>freaking beach.

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<v S1>Of beach has been removed because where.

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<v S2>We were doing our actual wedding.

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<v S1>We have a lot of connections to this place, which

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<v S1>is why we scheduled the wedding anyway. So again, as

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<v S1>of today, we we don't have a venue for either

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<v S1>events for this wedding that is supposed to be happening

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<v S1>in two months. And granted, we honestly have the most

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<v S1>incredible planners. I would highly recommend them. Countdown events have

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<v S1>been remarkable throughout this whole process, but at the moment

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<v S1>we're still like calling hotels and trying to figure out

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<v S1>we have.

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<v S2>Friends calling us, saying our room blocks have been canceled.

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<v S2>We can't get other rooms, where are we staying? Where

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<v S2>are we staying happening? Is it going to happen? Is

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<v S2>it not going to happen? We have family calling every

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<v S2>day and texting. Is this really going to happen? Is

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<v S2>it not going to happen? What do we tell our friends?

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<v S1>It's chaos. I've been able to send out invites because

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<v S1>on the invites that has we just changed.

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<v S2>The dates and the.

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<v S1>Venues changed the venue. So long story Longer. It has

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<v S1>been a bit of a clusterfuck kind of clusterfuck, but

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<v S1>we're still getting married and this is the decision. At

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<v S1>some point, you just have to make the decision like

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<v S1>what matters to you. And in that moment, I felt

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<v S1>like a little bit of a gut punch because I

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<v S1>finally felt excited and then was back to, oh my God,

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<v S1>here we go again. However, when you have these moments,

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<v S1>you have to prioritize what is actually important. So for me,

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<v S1>is it important? Is being on this beach? The most

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<v S1>important thing or is getting married to him this October

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<v S1>the most important thing? Like that's really the decision. And

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<v S1>in an instant I can make that decision. It's us

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<v S1>getting married this October. We do not want to continue

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<v S1>to push this off. We don't want to create uncertainty

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<v S1>with our family and our friends. We're making the commitment

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<v S1>to get married.

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<v S2>And no matter where we do it at and no

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<v S2>matter how we do it, you don't get to cry.

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<v S2>You almost cried a minute ago. I know.

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<v S1>But you don't get to cry. I'm not crying, okay?

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<v S2>But I can get you to cry if I just. Well,

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<v S2>if my eyes welled up a little bit. So. So

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<v S2>here's the thing, though. I promise that no matter what happens,

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<v S2>we're going to get married and we're going to enjoy

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<v S2>whoever happens to be with us, no matter where we

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<v S2>happen to be, no matter what we happen to be doing,

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<v S2>and no matter how we happen to be doing it.

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<v S2>Because right now we don't have a fucking clue where

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<v S2>anything is happening. And we're and we're and we're we're

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<v S2>seven weeks out.

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<v S1>I guess my second tip on this would be, I

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<v S1>want to give permission to people to go through this

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<v S1>logical process, but also feel emotional, like it is okay

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<v S1>to be upset and to be frustrated. However, if you

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<v S1>really can think about, okay, who do I want to

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<v S1>be in this process? Do I want to be the

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<v S1>person that's so freaked out over this one weekend of

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<v S1>my lifetime? No, I don't want to be that person.

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<v S1>I could work myself to be that person. But is

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<v S1>that really who I want to be in this next

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<v S1>chapter of my life? Absolutely not. I'm just going to

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<v S1>roll with things. If you're going through something similar, if

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<v S1>it's a wedding or anything else that is important to

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<v S1>you while shit is falling apart everywhere, how can you

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<v S1>consciously say, I'm not going to be reactionary. I'm not

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<v S1>going to send a text message that sends things sideways.

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<v S1>I'm not going to engage in a way that isn't

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<v S1>beneficial to set the example for the people around you,

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<v S1>but also to define how you respond to stressful situations.

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<v S2>I think that's the resilience. What I love about you

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<v S2>the most is your resilience.

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<v S3>Well thank you. Yeah.

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<v S1>I need you to stop talking or else you're gonna

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<v S1>make me cry.

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<v S2>Well, because. Because I want you to cry. I want

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<v S2>to I mean, I love it when you cry.

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<v S3>I'm not going to do it.

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<v S2>I'll cry. Look at my eyes. I look like I'm crying.

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<v S2>Because the truth is, is that I just want to

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<v S2>marry her. Like I could give a shit. Like. Like, let's.

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<v S2>Let's just get married. I want to get married. I

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<v S2>love her right now. Right now. Here's my bottle of Pellegrino.

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<v S2>Keep it forever. We have so much and so many

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<v S2>great things going on in our life that this is

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<v S2>a celebration.

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<v S1>And this is something that Elena also talks about in

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<v S1>her book, Build an Empire, where if you're so wrapped

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<v S1>up in this wedding and I think this is more

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<v S1>of a female thing than a.

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<v S4>Male thing.

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<v S1>I'm going to get into this in just a second here.

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<v S1>But if you're so caught up in the wedding, what

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<v S1>you're actually not thinking about is how to make a

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<v S1>future plan with this person. And if this moment is

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<v S1>so important to you, and you're starting to feel all

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<v S1>of this stress and anxiousness around it because you're making

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<v S1>it so important. Yes, it's important. But then how do

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<v S1>you figure out on the back end, like what's going

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<v S1>to pull you forward and create the marriage that you

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<v S1>want to have with this person? For us, we have

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<v S1>a ten x 360 like our our honeymoon.

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<v S3>We're going for.

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<v S2>Days. We're doing our honeymoon. So so this is no

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<v S2>bullshit because all these changes and everything, we're pushing dates around.

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<v S2>And the next question we asked each other is, look,

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<v S2>we're taking a couple weeks off for ourselves. We've been

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<v S2>working every single week, every single weekend now for almost

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<v S2>40 months or whatever. We were like, okay, we're going

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<v S2>to take that time and do our honeymoon. We're so

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<v S2>excited about it. And then we both were sitting there going,

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<v S2>how long is our honeymoon? We're like, oh, we're going

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<v S2>to do four days, and we're like, where are we

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<v S2>going to be at? Oh, we're going to be in

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<v S2>this part of Mexico. We're like, let's put a ten

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<v S2>x360 on the end of it. We're going.

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<v S3>To put our mastermind.

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<v S1>On the end of it, and then we're like, well, wait,

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<v S1>because of the wedding weekend, we need a 360 in Miami.

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<v S3>And so so we.

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<v S2>Literally are.

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<v S3>Going to come honeymoon short.

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<v S2>So we could come here because you know what? We

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<v S2>really do love. We love building business together and we

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<v S2>love being together. And we love working hard together. And

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<v S2>as much as we want to go on that honeymoon

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<v S2>and be able to, we literally said, how many days

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<v S2>are we going to be able to relax before we

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<v S2>start getting nervous? We need to go back to work.

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<v S3>Well, and it's.

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<v S1>Not even just that. It's the impact that we're creating

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<v S1>in the life that we're building together. And this would

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<v S1>be I'm not married yet, but my future self marital

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<v S1>advice is okay. These business owners that we get the

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<v S1>opportunity to work with and that we get the opportunity

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<v S1>to create events around like they actually need us. They

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<v S1>need us to show up to this. They need us

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<v S1>to help them with their people, challenges and family dynamics

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<v S1>because the business is broken, or they need us to

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<v S1>understand from a financial standpoint what the plan looks like

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<v S1>so that they can exit the family member that they've

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<v S1>been trying to work through. And so for us this

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<v S1>ten x 360, we're like, this is going to pull

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<v S1>us forward after the wedding. But it's also what fulfills

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<v S1>our life together. And so if you're in the middle

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<v S1>of wedding planning or if you're just in a rut

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<v S1>with your significant other, how can you put something on

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<v S1>the calendar that pulls you forward through the thing that

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<v S1>you're excited about, that is in alignment with how you're

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<v S1>building your life and your priorities together?

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<v S2>Because we spend so much time with so many business

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<v S2>owners that are struggling at different points in their business,

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<v S2>it could be struggling professionally, could be struggling personally, it

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<v S2>could be struggling financially, it could be family things. It

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<v S2>could be kids working in the business with parents. We

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<v S2>get pulled into everyone's struggle because that's where our expertise is.

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<v S2>And I think you and I started having a conversation

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<v S2>about if we can't handle our shit in adversity. How

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<v S2>do we have the confidence to help others when they're

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<v S2>in adversity? And so we made a conscious choice of

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<v S2>we're going to be the best version of ourselves, despite

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<v S2>what's thrown at us, because we want to be the

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<v S2>example to the people that we're helping be the best

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<v S2>version of themselves. And that's where we're sitting there going, okay,

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<v S2>so we're going to go have a remarkable week getting married.

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<v S2>We're going to go have a remarkable honeymoon with some

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<v S2>very special friends that we're bringing along with us, because

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<v S2>we want to spend time with them, and then we're

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<v S2>going to go right back to work, and we're going

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<v S2>to go and create a life, the life we choose

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<v S2>to create. And we spend most of our time in

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<v S2>chaos helping other people through chaos. So if we can't

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<v S2>manage our own chaos, how the hell can we help

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<v S2>somebody manage theirs?

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<v S3>We're chaos managers.

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<v S1>We're co chaos managers. Um, with that. So I think

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<v S1>this is like the stuff people want to know about

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<v S1>the behind the scenes of planning a wedding. I think

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<v S1>one thing people ask other people often and I wish.

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<v S3>I would.

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<v S1>Have known is around the involvement that he has in

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<v S1>the wedding planning process, and I would just like to

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<v S1>be very clear that, uh, he you think you just have, like,

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<v S1>these romantic ideas of the person being, like, so interested

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<v S1>and you both are trying things and picking out the flowers. Brandon,

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<v S1>I don't think you have. You sat through one wedding

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<v S1>meeting at this point. Not that I have a bunch

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<v S1>of them, but I don't think you've been to one.

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<v S2>Well, I here's what I know from a man's perspective.

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<v S2>You're going to pick what you want. You're going to

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<v S2>pick how you want it to be. You're going to

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<v S2>pick the colors. You're going to pick the flowers. You're

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<v S2>going to pick the location.

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<v S3>But like as a.

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<v S1>Woman, you think that the person is going to be

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<v S1>really interested, even though I'm going to pick it, of

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<v S1>course I'm going to pick.

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<v S2>It. Yeah, so I don't. So I know better than

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<v S2>to get in your way of having an opinion, but.

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<v S3>You think that.

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<v S1>You'd be more interested. And I just want to be clear.

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<v S1>It's not like you're that interested in the wedding.

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<v S2>I'm really interested. I can't wait for it.

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<v S3>But I'm not going to get interested. But I'm not.

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<v S2>Going to get between your decisions and my opinions, because

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<v S2>I'm a smart enough man to know that that doesn't.

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<v S3>Work either.

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<v S1>Right now to say that.

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<v S3>Yeah, just.

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<v S2>I'm trying to.

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<v S3>Help. I'm trying to help your interest. And there's not

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<v S3>a lot of interest.

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<v S2>There is interest. Can I tell you I'm going to

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<v S2>help your female listeners? I'm going to give them a secret.

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<v S2>I'm going to give them a secret.

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<v S3>Can you give it to me, too?

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<v S1>I'm so curious.

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<v S3>I'm going to give it to.

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<v S2>You, and I'm going to give it to them. Any

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<v S2>smart man does not throw their opinions between the desires

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<v S2>and wants of the person they love. While they're planning

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<v S2>the wedding, all that's going to do is add stress resistance, friction,

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<v S2>anxiety into the equation. And this is one time I

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<v S2>don't need to be right. I want her to be right.

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<v S2>I want her to be happy, and I want her

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<v S2>to be okay with me taking a back seat, because

0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:25.739
<v S2>normally I drive decisions. But, but and because, you know,

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<v S2>I'm the man in the relationship. I tell you what

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<v S2>to do. This is all bullshit. But the truth is,

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<v S2>I'm not putting myself between whatever she wants for the

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<v S2>wedding and my opinion, because that isn't going to create.

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<v S1>Clearly, you feel a little defensive right now.

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<v S3>Yeah, because.

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<v S2>You're putting me on the spot on a.

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<v S3>Podcast.

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<v S2>I'm defending every man who allows and takes a back

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<v S2>seat so that the woman can get exactly what she wants.

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<v S3>Great.

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<v S1>Well, all the ladies understand exactly what just happened here.

0:18:53.790 --> 0:18:58.050
<v S1>And could he be. Could he show 25% more interest? Yes.

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<v S1>Is it okay that he doesn't? Yes, because he is

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<v S1>very busy doing other things. And I am thankful that

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<v S1>he is busy doing those other things.

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<v S3>Can we be.

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<v S2>Fair, though? I'm spending a lot of energy being interested

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<v S2>in financing a big part of it.

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<v S3>Well, yeah, which is what.

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<v S1>I was going to talk about. So budgeting. But I

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<v S1>think the second biggest question that people have is like, well,

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<v S1>how does the dynamic work when it comes to making

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<v S1>spending decisions around the wedding?

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<v S3>And I think, how does that work? Well.

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<v S1>The way that it's worked for us is we set

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<v S1>a budget, and I've gone significantly over budget because of

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<v S1>all of these changes that keep taking place. And what

0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:37.800
<v S1>is great about you, however not necessary. Like I go,

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<v S1>I waffle in between, like canceling the whole thing because

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<v S1>I think the whole, the whole expense is ridiculous. And

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<v S1>in going and on the other hand, creating this amazing,

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<v S1>remarkable event that.

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<v S2>You don't know that anybody's going to show up to,

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<v S2>or we're going to have a beach to go to

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<v S2>or anything else. So it's.

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<v S3>Kind of like.

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<v S1>I really have like logically worked my way out of

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<v S1>like needing to have this, like outrageous wedding.

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<v S3>However, it's going to be outrageous, it'll be.

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<v S1>Beautiful and it'll be spectacular. But from a budgeting standpoint,

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<v S1>I think if I was giving somebody tips around this,

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<v S1>it would be to figure out what you want to

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<v S1>spend and what you're willing, like the percentage of how

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<v S1>much you're willing to go over, because it's kind of

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<v S1>like a house, like you will end up going over.

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<v S3>And you might as well.

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<v S2>Acknowledge that on the front end. So you're not adding

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<v S2>stress and complaining or bitching. Set your budget. Give yourself

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<v S2>a 20%, 25% wiggle room. All I'm going to say

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<v S2>is there's just no value in creating stress. And that's

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<v S2>one thing that I like. I try not to say, oh, well,

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<v S2>what about this or that? Because I want it to

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<v S2>be perfect. I set the budget with you and you're

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<v S2>doing the best job you can to work within the budget.

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<v S2>But I don't want to have conflict leading up to

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<v S2>the wedding, and I don't want to have conflict afterwards.

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<v S2>And for some of you, you might say, well, that's

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<v S2>easy for you to do because you guys have a

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<v S2>lot of money or you make a lot of money.

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<v S2>You got to be responsible for setting the bar. You know,

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<v S2>like my kids got married on my property. They still

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<v S2>had a budget and they operated within the budget. So

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<v S2>what I would say to people is pick your lane,

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<v S2>stay in your lane and don't don't use that stress.

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<v S2>If you go a little over a little under to

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<v S2>distract from the whole reason you're you're going to marry

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<v S2>in the first place. We want to live the rest

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<v S2>of our life together. Yeah. And and.

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<v S3>And create confidence.

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<v S1>In each other.

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<v S3>And create confidence in each other as.

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<v S1>To what we're spending more on versus less on. The

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<v S1>things that are important to me are like the experiences

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<v S1>that are.

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<v S3>Created, the.

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<v S2>Party.

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<v S1>Yeah. So like I want a photographer there for the

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<v S1>guests to be able to take photos so that we

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<v S1>can have these photos for a very long time.

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<v S3>How about forever?

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<v S1>Forever and.

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<v S3>For my. Ever.

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<v S2>My ever is not very long. Your ever is a

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<v S2>long time.

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<v S3>So stuff like this. Forever.

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<v S1>Ever. Another thing that we're spending on is like a house.

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<v S1>To be able to have people in and be able

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<v S1>to spend time like that was a that's a big

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<v S1>expense in the P and L of our wedding. However,

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<v S1>the balance sheet of our wedding, however, like that's really

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<v S1>important to us, is to be able to be around

0:22:07.390 --> 0:22:10.419
<v S1>the people that we are inviting there. As it's a

0:22:10.420 --> 0:22:12.520
<v S1>destination wedding, we don't want to be going off into

0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:15.430
<v S1>separate places. So it's just stuff like that where I'm

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<v S1>cutting things out that don't add value to the experience

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<v S1>that's actually taking place. All right. What was else on

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<v S1>my list? Is he interested? Venues. The last name okay.

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<v S1>We've gone round and round about the last name.

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<v S3>No, she has, I haven't.

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<v S1>Well, I tried to convince him to change his last name.

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<v S3>Yeah, we knew that.

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<v S2>Wasn't going to work after the first.

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<v S3>Day?

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<v S1>I just here's my thing, guys. I love my last name.

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<v S1>It has nothing.

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<v S2>I love her last name too.

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<v S1>It's not even like a I'm not trying to be

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<v S1>like a woman and, like, keep my last name. It's

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<v S1>just because I love the last name Workman. And I

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<v S1>think it's a strong last name. My podcast, the show

0:22:52.900 --> 0:22:55.600
<v S1>is called Work Woman because of my last name. And

0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:58.120
<v S1>I've launching a book coming up. It has the word

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<v S1>work in it because of my last name, and so

0:23:00.250 --> 0:23:03.520
<v S1>that's been difficult for me. But I am going to

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<v S1>become a Dawson. Did you know this? Have we talked

0:23:07.660 --> 0:23:07.930
<v S1>about this?

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<v S2>No. We're finding this is this is this is like

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<v S2>a breaking news, like I because here's the thing I

0:23:13.720 --> 0:23:16.600
<v S2>don't have I think there's nothing wrong with you having

0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:19.300
<v S2>Natalie Workman Dawson or like, I didn't.

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<v S3>Think.

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<v S2>I didn't even think there was anything wrong with with

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<v S2>you keeping your your name. I like it because everyone

0:23:27.250 --> 0:23:30.580
<v S2>calls me Mr. Workman. I mean, we check every restaurant.

0:23:30.790 --> 0:23:31.990
<v S3>This is used to. Not like this.

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<v S2>No, no, but I love it now because I'm, like, incognito.

0:23:34.960 --> 0:23:37.600
<v S2>Whenever we walk up to a restaurant, they're like, Mr. Workman. Mrs.

0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:39.840
<v S2>Workman will show you because she makes all the reservations.

0:23:40.080 --> 0:23:41.700
<v S2>So everything is under workman. So we come.

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<v S1>In, really piss.

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<v S3>Him off.

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<v S2>I mean, like workman.

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<v S3>I mean, can't you use.

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<v S1>My open table account to book the reservation.

0:23:47.010 --> 0:23:48.869
<v S2>Which I never even had an open table account. I

0:23:48.869 --> 0:23:51.840
<v S2>have no technology that has my name on it. She

0:23:51.840 --> 0:23:54.900
<v S2>loads everything for me. Six years or seven years, however

0:23:54.900 --> 0:23:57.780
<v S2>long I've been called Mr. Workman everywhere I go. And

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<v S2>so the running joke in the Workman family is we're

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<v S2>all workman's.

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<v S1>I like that. Well, so should I take my decision back?

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<v S2>No, because I'm not gonna. I'm not changing my last name.

0:24:08.369 --> 0:24:09.600
<v S2>But you could be, should I?

0:24:09.810 --> 0:24:10.170
<v S3>You could.

0:24:10.380 --> 0:24:12.510
<v S1>I was just about to say I was gonna do Dawson, like.

0:24:13.020 --> 0:24:13.800
<v S3>Natalie Dawson's.

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<v S2>A gorgeous.

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<v S3>Name, but then.

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<v S1>I drop, so I drop work for.

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<v S3>Work. Well, why don't.

0:24:17.340 --> 0:24:18.720
<v S2>You, Natalie? Work?

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<v S3>I think it's Dawson. I'll keep you guys posted.

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<v S1>Like you'll know very shortly what the decision is, but

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<v S1>I think it's confusing for other people. This has been.

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<v S1>The deliberation is I could hyphenate the last name, but then, like,

0:24:31.410 --> 0:24:33.810
<v S1>why not just, like, go all in on the relationship, like,

0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:34.500
<v S1>I'm not hedging.

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<v S3>Well, I don't think.

0:24:35.070 --> 0:24:37.670
<v S2>The last name. I don't think not having the. Maybe

0:24:37.670 --> 0:24:40.280
<v S2>this is a poll you should do with your audience.

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:45.050
<v S2>I personally don't feel attacked if you hyphenated your name.

0:24:45.050 --> 0:24:48.200
<v S2>If you if it was Natalie, because you have a brand,

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:51.830
<v S2>you have a brand that you're building around work woman

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<v S2>maybe you just keep the work woman brand in in.

0:24:55.490 --> 0:24:57.260
<v S2>When people ask you where did you come up with that?

0:24:57.290 --> 0:24:59.989
<v S2>You explain it to them, but I wouldn't be offended.

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<v S1>Okay, well, I'll keep you guys posted on this with that.

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<v S1>This has been quite the. Well, thank.

0:25:07.310 --> 0:25:10.879
<v S2>You for having me on your show again. And and

0:25:10.940 --> 0:25:15.200
<v S2>I hope that everyone that's listening to this realizes that

0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:19.100
<v S2>shit happens, and it's how you choose to react to

0:25:19.130 --> 0:25:21.590
<v S2>it that defines you as a person.

0:25:22.490 --> 0:25:24.500
<v S1>We would also love to see you at a ten

0:25:24.530 --> 0:25:27.409
<v S1>x 360 event at the first, of course, ten x

0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:29.570
<v S1>360 event as a married couple.

0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:31.310
<v S2>And for those that were seeing at the wedding, we

0:25:31.310 --> 0:25:32.630
<v S2>cannot wait to see you.

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<v S1>It is happening the weekend after the weekend of the 10th.

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<v S1>So that is October.

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<v S3>17th, 18th.

0:25:39.170 --> 0:25:41.510
<v S1>17th and 18th. We're having a ten x 360 in

0:25:41.510 --> 0:25:43.400
<v S1>Miami as the official.

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<v S3>And trust me.

0:25:44.420 --> 0:25:47.030
<v S2>Trust me, there will be a party there too.

0:25:47.060 --> 0:25:47.660
<v S3>Oh, there will for.

0:25:47.660 --> 0:25:50.480
<v S1>Sure be a party. How will you introduce me? My.

0:25:50.510 --> 0:25:51.980
<v S2>I don't know yet. You have to decide.

0:25:51.980 --> 0:25:55.609
<v S1>My wife, Mrs. Dawson. Yeah, crazy. If you're interested in

0:25:55.640 --> 0:25:57.859
<v S1>that event, which you should be very interested. If you're

0:25:57.859 --> 0:26:01.130
<v S1>a business owner, go to Cardone Ventures. Dot com forward

0:26:01.130 --> 0:26:05.030
<v S1>slash ten x 360. And we would love to get

0:26:05.030 --> 0:26:05.960
<v S1>you signed up.

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<v S2>And for all of those that we'll be seeing at

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<v S2>our wedding, thank you for loving us. Oh.

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<v S1>Wow. Okay. Well we appreciate you guys. Thank you for listening.

0:26:13.970 --> 0:26:18.260
<v S1>If you haven't already shared this episode, please do. And

0:26:18.260 --> 0:26:21.470
<v S1>I can hardly wait to see you guys next week.

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<v S5>Thanks for having me on the work Woman show.

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<v UU>Hey. You're welcome.